Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Marc Augsburger, MBA, BSN, RHCEOC, President and CEO of Edgerton Hospital and Health Services
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- 0:00This is Laura Dierda with the Becker's Healthcare
- 0:02podcast. I'm thrilled today to be joined by
- 0:04Mark Augsperner,
- 0:06president, CEO of the hospital health services. Mark,
- 0:09it's a pleasure to have you on a
- 0:10podcast today.
- 0:12Hey. Really glad to be here, and thanks
- 0:14for the invitation.
- 0:16Absolutely. Now I'm excited for our conversation. I
- 0:18know we're gonna be talking a lot about
- 0:20rural health care and some of the great
- 0:21things you're doing at Edgerton Hospital. But before
- 0:23we dive in, can you tell us a
- 0:24little bit more about yourself and your background?
- 0:27Oh, absolutely.
- 0:29So I took the clinical track,
- 0:33I'd call it to the CEO position. So
- 0:36I've been a registered nurse for thirty seven
- 0:39years
- 0:40and have bounced
- 0:42around the Midwest a little bit.
- 0:45I've, practiced nursing in Ohio and Michigan. And,
- 0:50through that journey,
- 0:52got my MBA. My first CEO job then
- 0:55was in Iowa
- 0:57way in the Northwest Corner at Horn Memorial
- 0:59Hospital in Ida Grove.
- 1:01Then my second CEO position
- 1:04was in Cairo, Michigan,
- 1:07at Cairo Community Hospital, which became McLaren Cairo
- 1:11Region. And now, just as of March 1,
- 1:14I've celebrated my
- 1:16fifth year
- 1:17at Edgerton Hospital
- 1:19and Health Services here in Edgerton, Wisconsin.
- 1:25Fantastic. Well, it sounds like an amazing career
- 1:27in just so many different,
- 1:29hospitals and organizations, different communities, but all rural
- 1:32and smaller communities.
- 1:34What do you really draws you to that
- 1:36space, sir? What do you find exciting and
- 1:38exhilarating about it?
- 1:40Yeah. So I love the small space.
- 1:42I grew up in
- 1:44a small town of about 5,500
- 1:47people in Bluffton, Ohio.
- 1:50And,
- 1:51I cut my teeth there first as an
- 1:53aid at the hospital. And after becoming a
- 1:54registered nurse,
- 2:08critical care unit,
- 2:10and then finally spent,
- 2:12a fair amount
- 2:14of my time
- 2:15as an emergency department nurse and emergency department
- 2:19health supervisor
- 2:20at the hospital.
- 2:22And so, you know, I've just grown up
- 2:25as that being my community hospital,
- 2:28and it has really drawn me to
- 2:32love rural. I've, you know, I've spent a
- 2:35little bit of time working in
- 2:38700
- 2:39bed hospital also in Saginaw, Michigan, ran an
- 2:42emergency department that was much larger than any
- 2:46of my three critical access hospitals that I've
- 2:50been CEO at, but,
- 2:53always return to the rural roots.
- 2:56It's where I grew up. It's what I
- 2:58know, and,
- 3:00really, really enjoy the friendly people
- 3:03and being able to provide
- 3:06ever increasing
- 3:07access to care
- 3:09to the residents of the community and surrounding
- 3:13communities that we've served.
- 3:15I love that. That's amazing to hear, and,
- 3:17you know, really cool that you've been able
- 3:19to make an impact on so many different
- 3:21of those rural communities as well. Now
- 3:24could you tell us a little bit about
- 3:25the growth at Edgerton Hospital and Health Services
- 3:27since you took the helmet in 2021?
- 3:29What has been the key to successful expansion
- 3:32and adding services in in more of those
- 3:33things that you've been able to do? Yeah.
- 3:36We've, we've been able to grow significantly
- 3:39here at Edgerton.
- 3:41Probably one of the things that really
- 3:43started
- 3:44off this, boom in our growth,
- 3:48was that the fact that we received a
- 3:51governor's health care infrastructure
- 3:54grant of 3 and a half million dollars
- 3:57just about four years ago.
- 3:59And that allowed us to,
- 4:02purchase
- 4:04a building that had never been inhabited,
- 4:08was setting there empty since it had been
- 4:11built.
- 4:12And we were able to
- 4:14transform
- 4:155,000 square foot into
- 4:18a lovely new
- 4:20multiuse
- 4:21clinic area.
- 4:23And so we were able to pull in
- 4:26new and additional
- 4:28specialists at that time,
- 4:30moved a lot of things,
- 4:31from the hospital,
- 4:33you know, four years ago
- 4:35and was able to provide
- 4:38additional access to care
- 4:40to the community.
- 4:43Expansion has just moved on
- 4:46since that time. Again, we
- 4:49did not have orthopedic
- 4:51services.
- 4:52We have a full line
- 4:54of specialty
- 4:55orthopedic serve services now,
- 4:58that
- 4:59moves
- 5:00all the way from
- 5:03a hand,
- 5:04arm and shoulder specialist
- 5:07to sports medicine
- 5:09and full robotic hip and knees.
- 5:12We have a very, very vibrant
- 5:16chronic
- 5:16pain
- 5:17center,
- 5:19and we've just extended that another
- 5:2220 miles away
- 5:25from us. We have an extension in Whitewater,
- 5:28Wisconsin,
- 5:30where we also opened up a seven day
- 5:33a week, ten hour a day
- 5:35urgent care
- 5:37last fall as well.
- 5:39Those are some of
- 5:41the growth
- 5:42pieces that came out of,
- 5:45you know, getting that health care infrastructure
- 5:48money
- 5:49and, you know, building out, giving us additional
- 5:51room then at the hospital to add these
- 5:52specialists. We've only continued to grow
- 5:54hospital to add these specialists. We've only continued
- 5:56to grow from that point. We have
- 5:59a building that is attached to the hospital,
- 6:05that we lease, that
- 6:06we don't own, but it was built about
- 6:10fourteen years ago,
- 6:12about six months after the new hospital was
- 6:15built. And there was a different clinic in
- 6:18there for a number of years,
- 6:21a former affiliation.
- 6:23And at this point, we occupy
- 6:25that space, and
- 6:27we've been able
- 6:30to fill that with,
- 6:32additional
- 6:33and new
- 6:34family medicine.
- 6:36We're looking at additional family medicine as well.
- 6:40We also do some telehealth. We have some
- 6:44telepsychiatry
- 6:45that's in our downtown
- 6:47building,
- 6:49teleendocrinology.
- 6:51And we've been able to do a
- 6:54robust
- 6:55remodel
- 6:56and,
- 6:57moving of our two unit,
- 7:01in house sleep lab.
- 7:03It's absolutely beautiful.
- 7:05It's totally silent. It's a great part
- 7:08of the building
- 7:09that, we now
- 7:11operate,
- 7:12attached to us again. So,
- 7:15the and we're looking, of course, to the
- 7:18future for
- 7:20additional growth opportunities. So it's just been a
- 7:24very exciting time here in the last five
- 7:27years.
- 7:30That's amazing to hear. And, you know, really
- 7:31cool to understand some of the different ways
- 7:33you're expanding both the infrastructure as well as
- 7:36opportunities to grow access to care across the
- 7:39board. And I'm curious, you know, whether it's
- 7:41it's looking at,
- 7:43making
- 7:43growth in the,
- 7:45the
- 7:46the physical footprint or digital of telehealth too.
- 7:48You know, all of that takes,
- 7:51additional,
- 7:52staff and bringing in specialties and specialists and
- 7:55those kinds of things. And I know that
- 7:56can be particularly challenging in the rural setting.
- 7:59So how have you gone about recruiting and
- 8:01and bringing on,
- 8:02additional,
- 8:04clinicians and specialists,
- 8:05to make sure that as you're adding these
- 8:07spaces and services, you're able to,
- 8:10serve the community well?
- 8:12Sure. I can tell you we have been
- 8:14extremely
- 8:15fortunate
- 8:17to
- 8:18have
- 8:19great reference pieces
- 8:21and
- 8:22great physician
- 8:24and nurse practitioners
- 8:26here at our facility
- 8:28that know people from all over the state
- 8:32and down into Illinois.
- 8:34And so we have been able to grow
- 8:38mostly
- 8:39by word-of-mouth.
- 8:41Now we did recruit
- 8:42our
- 8:44family practice additional family practice physician,
- 8:48utilizing
- 8:49a company to help find them because,
- 8:53as you know,
- 8:55nationwide,
- 8:56family practice can be a pretty hard,
- 8:59you know,
- 9:00specialty to find.
- 9:02But some of our other specialists,
- 9:05we have physicians that
- 9:07come to us weekly and see patients from
- 9:11the Milwaukee
- 9:12area, from the Chicago area, from the Madison
- 9:15area.
- 9:17And it has just
- 9:19grown by word-of-mouth
- 9:21more than
- 9:23than anything else.
- 9:25And
- 9:26what has really helped us with that growth
- 9:29is
- 9:30our
- 9:31strong
- 9:32commitment
- 9:33to patient engagement,
- 9:36patient safety,
- 9:37and very high patient quality.
- 9:40That word has gotten out there strongly,
- 9:43and we have
- 9:45a very, very well known swing bed program
- 9:48at our hospital. We're known to rehab them,
- 9:53the patients exceptionally well.
- 9:55And our
- 9:57rehab services is also regionally known,
- 10:00not only in the swing bed,
- 10:03status,
- 10:04but also in the outpatient
- 10:06space as well. You know, another
- 10:10part of that then comes our
- 10:13pulmonary and cardiac rehab departments,
- 10:16and it's really exciting
- 10:19how the whole
- 10:21rehab
- 10:22of
- 10:23patient care works,
- 10:26with our high quality standards.
- 10:31I love that. That's helpful to understand. You
- 10:33know, really cool to have that type of,
- 10:36be in that position where you've got, you
- 10:37know, specialists and and clinicians and family practice
- 10:40physicians,
- 10:41looking to come in and really be more
- 10:43part of what you're doing,
- 10:45within your space. And so that's really cool
- 10:47to hear. Now I'm curious. What is your
- 10:50top priority for the next twelve months or
- 10:52so? What do you really focus on and
- 10:54is top of mind for you?
- 10:56Yeah. I think like every other critical access
- 10:59hospital in the nation
- 11:01is we continue to work on financial stability.
- 11:06Things are just tough out there.
- 11:09There's a lot of misconceptions
- 11:12in the public
- 11:13that hospitals are making money
- 11:17hand over fist, and that is just not
- 11:20true.
- 11:21It's,
- 11:22you know, you feel like you're bobbing up
- 11:25and down in water sometimes,
- 11:27trying to keep your nose above,
- 11:30to keep things breathing. But,
- 11:33financial stability
- 11:35with making good financial decisions,
- 11:39bringing in the right specialists,
- 11:41you need to have
- 11:43a robust family practice
- 11:46set of folks, which
- 11:48we continue to work on.
- 11:51There
- 11:52by building
- 11:53downstream revenue with, you know, other kind of,
- 11:57tests and things that family practice will bring
- 12:00in.
- 12:02Along with that,
- 12:04top priority,
- 12:06in the next twelve months would be securing
- 12:09additional
- 12:10specialists. Again, that falls into,
- 12:13that whole financial
- 12:14stability
- 12:15piece.
- 12:16And,
- 12:18and I guess tied in there, this is
- 12:21our year
- 12:23to complete our next
- 12:25triennial,
- 12:26so our three year community health needs assessment.
- 12:30We're working on that currently.
- 12:33We've worked hard on the seven
- 12:36top priorities
- 12:37that were
- 12:39discovered and came out
- 12:41of our community health needs assessment that was
- 12:43completed three years ago. And
- 12:46so we have had our
- 12:49community
- 12:50written survey has been out and results are
- 12:53back, and we're looking
- 12:55forward
- 12:56to our,
- 12:58open forum
- 13:00that we'll be,
- 13:01hosting with community leaders and the company we
- 13:04work with
- 13:06to help conduct our community health needs assessment
- 13:09so we can get that vibrant report together
- 13:13and have a work plan in place so
- 13:17that we can
- 13:18have everything available to the public,
- 13:21of course, by December 31 year.
- 13:24And that will tie strongly
- 13:27back again
- 13:29into
- 13:29the long term financial stability
- 13:32of our facility.
- 13:36Got it. That makes a lot of sense.
- 13:38And, you know, I think so critical, as
- 13:40you mentioned, to have the,
- 13:43ability to have that foresight to work with
- 13:45your team and and do the assessments to
- 13:46understand what's you're going to need next, what
- 13:48the community is going to need next, and
- 13:50have that plan in place, in in in,
- 13:52you know, truly,
- 13:54fascinating to think about all that goes into
- 13:56doing something like that. Who else is involved
- 13:59with that type of assessment? Obviously, I can
- 14:00imagine you're very much involved in,
- 14:03you know, looking at the information, gathering the
- 14:05strategy. But what are those discussions like with
- 14:07your leadership team?
- 14:08Yeah. Not only do do we have that
- 14:11discussion with my executive team, the rest of
- 14:13our leadership team,
- 14:15but our board of trustees plays a strong
- 14:18role in that.
- 14:20One of the things that we
- 14:21continue to do is,
- 14:23work on,
- 14:25our board. And as we replace
- 14:29members that, retire off, and leave the board,
- 14:34we look at the composition
- 14:36of the board members
- 14:38and the strength
- 14:39that they bring with the knowledge,
- 14:42to the hospital.
- 14:44Discussion
- 14:45with our leadership team,
- 14:48can be pretty vibrant
- 14:50as you can imagine.
- 14:52Lots of discussion
- 14:54and
- 14:54ideas that come out of,
- 14:58the leadership and,
- 15:00my executive team.
- 15:02And,
- 15:03you know,
- 15:05one of the things I actually,
- 15:07just have recently done
- 15:09is completed
- 15:12a piece of
- 15:13our strategic planning
- 15:16with the board and my executive team.
- 15:18And we spent quite a bit of time,
- 15:21a number of hours,
- 15:23looking at,
- 15:25strengths of
- 15:26what our hospital does, talking about our high
- 15:29quality,
- 15:31and,
- 15:31you know, how do we
- 15:34work
- 15:35hand in hand together
- 15:37with, the community,
- 15:39our patients
- 15:41that we serve in the communities that we
- 15:43serve,
- 15:44and how do we strongly
- 15:46engage with them to gain even better understanding
- 15:50of the services provided at the hospital.
- 15:54You know, one of the things I always
- 15:55like to say is a lot of times
- 15:57you don't pay attention
- 16:00to marketing, especially in health care,
- 16:03unless you need the service. Right?
- 16:06So if you are not,
- 16:09you know, 40,
- 16:12and,
- 16:13it's time to have your first,
- 16:16colonoscopy,
- 16:18to stay healthy,
- 16:19you know, promoting health and wellness is super
- 16:22important.
- 16:23But if if you're maybe in your early
- 16:27twenties or your twenties, you don't have any
- 16:29kind of
- 16:31GI issues,
- 16:32you're probably not gonna pay much attention
- 16:35to, you know, what kind of gastroenterology
- 16:40services are provided at the hospital.
- 16:43But, boy, the moment that you need that
- 16:45kind of a service,
- 16:47you wanna know that your facility
- 16:50provides the kind
- 16:52of testing and diagnostics
- 16:54that you need. And,
- 16:56that's the word that you need to get
- 16:59out there and keep letting the public know
- 17:03it's not a one and done. It's
- 17:05continuous
- 17:06community
- 17:07engagement
- 17:08and education,
- 17:10that helps
- 17:11work with the financial stability
- 17:14of your facility.
- 17:17That's such a great point. And, you know,
- 17:18it's so interesting to understand what's, driving those
- 17:22conversations on your level. And then, truly, like
- 17:25you said, that continuous community engagement, that ability
- 17:28to not only be the place that you
- 17:29go when you're in trouble, but also understanding,
- 17:33you know, all the possibilities and potential for
- 17:35building stronger communities and and wellness within the
- 17:37community too is,
- 17:39so, so interesting and and fascinating. I know
- 17:41the dynamics, especially
- 17:43in small communities and rural areas, are are
- 17:45really, really fascinating and unique and and can
- 17:48lend yourself to doing some pretty cool things,
- 17:50you know, if you're open to it. So
- 17:52that's really interesting.
- 17:56Now before we wrap up here, I'm curious,
- 17:58where do you see some of the biggest
- 17:59opportunities for rural health care to thrive, and
- 18:01what do leaders need to overcome in order
- 18:03to get there?
- 18:05Yeah. So I really feel you know, we've
- 18:07talked about financial stability
- 18:09and beat that into the ground. Right? So,
- 18:12of course, that's of utmost importance
- 18:14to,
- 18:15everyone in health care.
- 18:17But some other really strong areas
- 18:20is is that we continue the journey of
- 18:23high value
- 18:25and high quality care,
- 18:28for our patients.
- 18:30I'm very proud to say that, in '24
- 18:34and '25,
- 18:35our hospital was named a National Rural Hospital
- 18:38Association's,
- 18:41top 20 critical access hospital
- 18:44in the nation both years for our patient
- 18:48satisfaction.
- 18:49So, again,
- 18:50you know, putting putting and keeping that high
- 18:53quality out there.
- 18:55We are part of a clinically integrated network,
- 18:59high value network,
- 19:01and,
- 19:02that should only help
- 19:04to
- 19:05not only help us,
- 19:08keep the quality high and and look at
- 19:11additional quality measures maybe not we're not even
- 19:14measuring yet.
- 19:15But we're
- 19:17helping a host of hospitals in the state
- 19:21to do the exact same thing. So I
- 19:23think it's really important
- 19:25that
- 19:25as
- 19:27rural hospitals
- 19:28and critical access hospitals, we continue
- 19:32to work hard together
- 19:34and,
- 19:35really do the work of learning from each
- 19:39other. I know in Wisconsin,
- 19:42we have the rural Wisconsin
- 19:44health care cooperative
- 19:46and the Wisconsin hospital association,
- 19:50both very, very strong,
- 19:52with membership,
- 19:54and they really do a great job of
- 19:57getting us together,
- 19:59providing education,
- 20:02you know, as a whole as we all
- 20:04get together.
- 20:06So and then, you know, that leads really
- 20:08into
- 20:10you need to do a deep dive
- 20:12into having a
- 20:14vibrant,
- 20:15and robust strategic
- 20:17plan and the goals coming out of that.
- 20:20Again, that all leads
- 20:22to keeping
- 20:23your
- 20:24head above the water
- 20:26and,
- 20:27really projecting you further into the future,
- 20:31whether you're just looking
- 20:33for stability
- 20:35or there are growth opportunities,
- 20:38for you. So you gotta know your business,
- 20:42and you really need to develop a really
- 20:45clear road road map of efficiencies.
- 20:50I love it. Mark, thank you so much
- 20:52for joining us on the podcast today. This
- 20:54has been such a fascinating discussion, and I
- 20:56look forward to connecting with you again soon.
- 20:58That's a pleasure. Thanks, Laura.