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_400_000 Bigfoot DNA Test_ Mother From the Middle East_ No Father At All _ Joe Rogan _bestofjre · Drawn of History

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  Speaker 1: They say, hey, Dave, we got a job for you,
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  Speaker 1: at your own space, at your own will. Here's the story.
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  Speaker 1: When they were younger, they didn't know each other. They
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  Speaker 1: grew up in different parts. They went up into the
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  Speaker 1: woods with their families, backpacking, camping, having fun. They got
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  Speaker 1: up in the middle of the night, take a leak
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  Speaker 1: and independently, didn't know each other, they saw a bigfoot.
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  Speaker 1: They found each other. They formed this company, made millions
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  Speaker 1: of dollars. One day, they're at lunch and they start
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  Speaker 1: talking to each other and they had the same experience.
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  Speaker 1: They said, Wow, that's freaking bizarre. So let's get to
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  Speaker 1: the bottom of it. So I'm leaving. They know I
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  Speaker 1: have an investigative background. They said, hey, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: hire you. We want you to go find out if
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  Speaker 1: it's true, false or hoax.
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  Speaker 2: They hired you to go check to see if bigfoot
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  Speaker 2: was real.
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  Speaker 1: Flip the whole bill. They said, you can do it
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  Speaker 1: at your own pace, own will. We'll pay for everything.
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  Speaker 1: I said, not interested. They came back to me like
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  Speaker 1: four or five times. Finally, at the end of the year,
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  Speaker 1: my wife is divorcing me. I now have only fifty
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  Speaker 1: percent custody. I have fifty percent of my life open
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  Speaker 1: to do whatever I want. They came at me again.
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  Speaker 1: I said, okay, I'm going to shorten it down to
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  Speaker 1: from what took five years to five minutes. Tennessee Great
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  Speaker 1: Smoking Mountain National Park. There was a man there named
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  Speaker 1: Scott Carpenter Scott rest his soul has since died. But
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  Speaker 1: he took me into an area in the park and
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  Speaker 1: he said, Dave, this is the part where I've had
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  Speaker 1: all kinds of evidence. What kind of evidence, footprints, hair, hair, hair.
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  Speaker 3: So has he ever had the hair analyzed? Okay, so
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  Speaker 3: we start talking about it. How can we get a
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  Speaker 3: good sample of hair? So, I said, you know with
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  Speaker 3: Bear they take bear samples and DNA samples from Bear
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  Speaker 3: all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Let's try this. Let's take some packaging tape, wrap it
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  Speaker 1: inside out on the outside of a tree. Put something
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  Speaker 1: at the fork of the tree, some kind of food, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: honey something. If they lean up against the tree, it's
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  Speaker 1: going to pull the hair out, which we need the
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  Speaker 1: follicle for the DNA. Let's see if that works, says Bryant.
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  Speaker 1: We did it. It worked in that area. We had tracks. Now,
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  Speaker 1: just so you know, and everyone else knows, there's hair
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  Speaker 1: and fiber experts in the world and they testify in
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  Speaker 1: Superior Court all the time. Like out in the lobby,
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  Speaker 1: you have all these different kinds of animals. If we
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  Speaker 1: took a hair from one animal and give it to
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  Speaker 1: hair and fiber expert, he could tell you within it
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  Speaker 1: two minutes what animal that came from, because every hair
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  Speaker 1: looks different. So we took those hairs, went to hair
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  Speaker 1: and fiber expert and they said, well, where'd you get that?
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  Speaker 1: And I know, what do you mean. We've never seen
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  Speaker 1: that hair before. It's not classified, it doesn't exist. Hmm, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so that means we're onto something. So then I took
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  Speaker 1: it up vollicle. Can they do a DNA on or
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  Speaker 1: is it just hair? They did, Okay, they did, so
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  Speaker 1: I called. I was living in California at the time.
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  Speaker 1: I called the University of California Davis, the biggest animal
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  Speaker 1: lab in the world, and they said, what do you got.
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  Speaker 1: I explained it. They said, bigfoot, We're not touching it.
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  Speaker 1: We don't want anything to do with it. I went
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  Speaker 1: to University of Texas UC Davis. I went to like
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  Speaker 1: six or seven. No one would touch it. But then
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  Speaker 1: I found a woman that testified in the courts here
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  Speaker 1: in Texas as a DNA expert. I called her up.
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  Speaker 1: Her name is Melba Ketchum, Doctor Ketchum. I have this
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  Speaker 1: sample here. Would you be willing to do DNA analysis
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  Speaker 1: on it? Absolutely? It's going to cost you so many
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  Speaker 1: thousands of dollars. I go, no problem, we've got somebody
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  Speaker 1: who's going to pay. So she goes, okay, let's do
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  Speaker 1: one better. Dave, send me the sample. Let me look
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  Speaker 1: at it first. I'm going to give it to my
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  Speaker 1: hair and fiber expert. They look at it, hair and
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  Speaker 1: fiber experts says, it's nothing we've ever seen. So that's good.
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  Speaker 1: So she goes, Okay, here's here's what we're going to do.
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  Speaker 1: Can you get any more samples? I said, I have
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  Speaker 1: an idea. Let me try. So I go on coast
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  Speaker 1: to coast and I laid it out. I said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we have these samples. We're looking for hair samples. Don't
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  Speaker 1: don't bullshit us, because we'll know right away. Send us
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  Speaker 1: hair samples with everything attached, and we're going to send
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  Speaker 1: it to a lab. You don't have to pay the bill.
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  Speaker 1: We got one hundred and twenty five valid samples that
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  Speaker 1: were not deer, antelope, bear. Whatever she goes through the
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  Speaker 1: DNA analysis on it costs I think it costs US
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  Speaker 1: four hundred thousand dollars at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot less expensive now. And they all so
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  Speaker 1: hair wolf will give you mitochondrial DNA from the maternal side,
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  Speaker 1: but it won't give you for a internal DNA from
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  Speaker 1: the father side that you need nuclear DNA blood tissue, saliva,
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  Speaker 1: and we got some of those. Son of a gun.
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  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, the DNA comes back
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  Speaker 1: twelve to fifteen thousand years to the Middle East on
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  Speaker 1: the mother's side, father's side, it doesn't exist. In GenBank,
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  Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty two billion base pairs of DNA
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  Speaker 1: does not exist. The father's DNA does not exist. GenBank
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  Speaker 1: says it's impossible. Since that time, other people have come
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  Speaker 1: forward and said, hey, you know, on elongated skulls, we've
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  Speaker 1: had the same problem. We can't find the fraternal DNA
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  Speaker 1: just like you. That's a guy named La Marzouli that
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  Speaker 1: was doing the research there. And then Ron Morehead, who
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  Speaker 1: is doing other DNA studies on elongated skulls in South America,
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  Speaker 1: said the same thing. That's odd, Dave. So the mudturnal
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  Speaker 1: we understand the fraternal we don't, and that the DNA
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  Speaker 1: they did a paper about it, it's online having a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people say, oh, you know what, that's bs,
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  Speaker 1: it's bad. But nobody else has ever done a test
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  Speaker 1: and I could get you more hair within two weeks
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  Speaker 1: if we wanted to. Nobody wants to test.
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  Speaker 2: It, I'll test it.
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  Speaker 1: What do we have to do?
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  Speaker 3: The truth is, the truth is.
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  Speaker 1: The truth is.
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  Speaker 2: Jamie ready to go, Let's go, Let's get some tape.
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  Speaker 1: The truth is, it'll all come back the same. And
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  Speaker 1: I believe that the researchers who have done it, they've
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  Speaker 1: got the same results.
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  Speaker 2: And so if you say that on the fraternal side
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't exist. On the mutternal side, it's showing thousands.
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  Speaker 2: That would explain that. Again, So.
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm Greek, so they could chase my DNA backwards
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  Speaker 1: through time to I don't know, Greece, right ten fifteen
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  Speaker 1: thousand years ago. Well, they were able to chase the
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  Speaker 1: maternal side back to the Middle East twelve to fifteen
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  Speaker 1: thousand years And what did they say it was, that's
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  Speaker 1: all they said. But what they're saying is is that
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of people have picked up on this
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  Speaker 1: that has a lot of religious connotations to it.
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  Speaker 2: Why does it have religious connotations to it?
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  Speaker 1: Because of the Middle East twelve to fifteen thousand years.
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  Speaker 2: Right, But why is that religious? It's a part of
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  Speaker 2: the world twelve to fifteen thousand years ago. What gives
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  Speaker 2: it religious connotations other than the fact that that's the
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  Speaker 2: origins of a lot of religions, that's it, right, But
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  Speaker 2: it's also humans and different animals lived there, Like, there's
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  Speaker 2: probably deer down there that weren't religious at all, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Their DNA tracks back to the too specific results she reports.
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  Speaker 2: She claimed one hundred and eleven samples from thirty four
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  Speaker 2: North American sites produced two patterns, human mt DNA and
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  Speaker 2: unusual are novel nuclear sequences that supposedly did not match
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  Speaker 2: known animals. Her interpretation was that about fifteen thousand years ago,
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  Speaker 2: an unknown hominine male population interbred with modern human females,
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  Speaker 2: leading to a hybrid lineage whose descendants are today's supposed sasquatch.
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  Speaker 2: How and where it was published, study did not appear
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  Speaker 2: in a normal, established peer reviewed journal. Instead, it was
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  Speaker 2: put into an obscure outlet called De Novos Scientific Journal,
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  Speaker 2: which ketchem herself effectively controlled to get the paper online.
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  Speaker 2: Science reporters and skeptics noted the absence of transparent peer review,
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  Speaker 2: the paywall for self published paper, and the lack of
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  Speaker 2: independent labs reproducing her findings. But did independent labs try
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  Speaker 2: to reproduce her findings?
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  Speaker 1: That's the question?
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  Speaker 2: Scientific criticism. Genetics, geneticists and forensic biologists who examined the
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  Speaker 2: data and methodology have repeatedly pointed to contamination and poor
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  Speaker 2: lab practice as the most likely explanation for her hybrid sequences.
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  Speaker 2: Analysis noted that the mt DNA being one hundred percent
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  Speaker 2: modern human is exactly what you'd expect from contaminated or
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  Speaker 2: human origin samples, and that the odd nuclear sequences are
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  Speaker 2: consistent with mixed DNA sequencing errors or low quality data,
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  Speaker 2: not a new species. Current status of her DNA claims
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  Speaker 2: no major genetics lab or independent research group has replicated
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  Speaker 2: Ketchum's results or confirmed a novel hominine genome corresponding to Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 2: In mainstream science, her study is treated as an example
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  Speaker 2: of flawed junk science, interesting to Bigfoot enthusiasts but offering
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  Speaker 2: no accepted evidence that sasquatch exists. But here's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: Did anybody else try to just test those things?
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  Speaker 1: No, and let me explain that argument they just used.
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  Speaker 1: They're talking to a bunch of idiots. So when they
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  Speaker 1: say they are, it's contaminated.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So let's say I contaminated the sample. Right, Well, Joe,
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  Speaker 1: my dad was Russian. The contaminated sample would show on
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  Speaker 1: the fraternal side Russian. Right, it wouldn't show nothing, right,
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  Speaker 1: That's why that argument makes no sense.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not a geneticist, so I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: it makes sense. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Like,
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  Speaker 2: if you could say, oh, this is why you know,
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  Speaker 2: if you had someone who understood DNA and contamination and
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  Speaker 2: the whole process, they could maybe explain it in a
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  Speaker 2: better way. So what The idea that humans interbred with
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  Speaker 2: things is not a new idea, you know. I read
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  Speaker 2: something recently. I actually watched a YouTube video and then
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  Speaker 2: read an article. I think we talked about this pretty sure,
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  Speaker 2: we did, where they believe that Neanderthal they used to
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  Speaker 2: think that Neanderthal was a subspeci like a different version
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  Speaker 2: of humans, and they interbred with us. There's a group
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  Speaker 2: of people that now are speculating that Neanderthal was the
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  Speaker 2: result of humans breeding with another ancient hominant and that
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  Speaker 2: that created Neanderthal. So it's not that we interbred with Neanderthal,
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  Speaker 2: but that humans actually created Neanderthal by breeding with this
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  Speaker 2: other Hominand.
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  Speaker 1: So there's only one country in the world that ever
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  Speaker 1: took this topic seriously.
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  Speaker 3: Which country Russia.
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  Speaker 1: They took their science academy and took the five top scientists.
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  Speaker 1: This happened forty years ago, and they started studying what
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  Speaker 1: was called Almasti, the same as our Bigfoot. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: not bullshitting you. This is one hundred percent true. Two
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  Speaker 1: of their scientists came to the US. I met one
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  Speaker 1: of them at a conference in Colorado seven or eight
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  Speaker 1: years ago, and I walk into the room and he's
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  Speaker 1: holding both of my books as I walk in, and
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  Speaker 1: he says, Dave, you're the only guy to tell the
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  Speaker 1: truth out of everybody out here. What you're saying about
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  Speaker 1: the DNA, what you're saying about the lineage is one
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  Speaker 1: hundred percent fact. It's what we found, and we know
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  Speaker 1: that they aren't any