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Closer Concerns · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take where we talk
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all things Major League Baseball.
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Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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It all starts right now. Welcome back to the Three O Take
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presented by Chinook. Cedry.
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This is episode 530. I'll be your host, Kyle Cord.
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I'm here with my Co host Nate Reyes.
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Nate. KC How are we?
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Tell me, well, I already know how you feel about this NFL
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Draft. I, I want to keep it real with
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you. I couldn't care less and I know
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this is going to rubs people the wrong way.
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I just couldn't care less about the NFL draft.
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I'm here to talk ball, baseball specifically.
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You know, we all can't, we can't all agree on everything, but I
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think we can agree on baseball. Is that fair to say?
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Yeah, yeah. I admittedly don't know college
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ball enough to really have like a strong opinion about the
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draft, especially when like your team's like kind of middle of
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the road or even like good teams just because like you're not in
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the top ten. Maybe you're on the outskirts of
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the top ten and you're like, I'm I'm not digging to know who like
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the 5th ranked quarterback is or you know what I mean?
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Like, I don't know. It's plus the quarterback pool
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looks kind of like this year. And that's always like the crowd
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pleaser when you have good quarterbacks, like that's when
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people pay attention. But like, I don't know, I'm not.
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There's only so much room up here.
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There's only so much capacity. There's only so much storage
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space. There's only so many megabits
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per second operating boom, boom. And I don't got time right now.
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So I'll read. I'll read about it tomorrow
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maybe, but I'll stop looking after the top ten like the top
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first 10 picks. I'm not going to.
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I feel that. I feel that.
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I don't know, let's talk some baseball.
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Let's let's talk some ball. We can all agree on baseball.
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Well, I think we can also agree that there are some some elite
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arms around the league struggling.
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And I'm just going to go ahead and preface it by saying this.
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I think you're going to be surprised at my optimism in this
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particular segment. I've turned a page.
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I'm not feeling overly optimistic today, so.
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So this is going to be a good balance today I think.
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I've turned a page. I'm trying to be more optimistic
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about these things and I know for the people that have been
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listening for some time, been watching for some time to say
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you guys are awfully, awfully pessimistic when it comes to
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certain guys or. Certain teams, I think people
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like that, I think they do. We're just trying to keep it
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real, you know, like we're trying to.
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We're trying to call it like it is.
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We're not trying to, we're not trying to pander.
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We're not trying to to play to people's.
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Nope. Excessive optimism.
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We're just trying to call it like we see it, and sometimes we
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just see it a little more, a little more negatively,
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negatively at times. But with that said, Nate, let's
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talk about your favorite guy. Edwin Diaz was actually pulled
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from the game the other night. What time was that?
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This was what's today? Thursday.
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Wednesday. No, Wednesday.
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Yeah, it was the X rating game between the Phillies.
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Sort of wasn't. I'm not going to, I was just
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going to say it not, I'm not going to say an exclamation
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point on, on a rough start. Because at the end of the day,
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the reality of it is Edwin Diaz is really only if you look at
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the, if you look at the game logs, he's only had probably 2,
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maybe 3 rough outings, two of which really, really kind of
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screwed them up. But when the sample size is what
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it is, it's going to make things look a little bit worse than
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they really are, obviously. And you might say, well, isn't
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this just what you'd call it, your old fashioned overreaction?
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And some might say that it is, but as I've, as I feel like I've
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alluded to before, at this point in the season, it's all we have
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to go off of and all we have to go off of with Edwin Diaz is the
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fact that his numbers don't look great.
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And another thing I'd like to say on Edwin Diaz, and this
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isn't to make light of his, what I think ultimately ended up
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being like a cramp or something that he had to work out.
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Is that all? All I can really say is they
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need to ban the World Baseball Classic.
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Clearly this is the World Baseball Classic's fault.
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And if you have no idea what I'm talking about, Edwin Diaz.
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For some reason I I can't think of anything else when I hear the
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name Edwin Diaz anymore other than the injury that he
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sustained celebrating in the World Baseball Classic.
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And people said This is why we need to cancel the World
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Baseball Classic, as if that's the only time that guys get
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hurt. Yeah, I know.
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Crazy. But you're a huge Edwin Diaz.
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You're a huge Timmy Trumpets, huge Mets guy.
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Where's your Where's your panic meter with Edwin Diaz?
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We were talking this year or last year because he's washed.
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I'm out. I was out last year.
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I'm still out. I I think if we were to go back
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to the trumpets and set a date, I'm wondering what ERA looks
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like from there. I don't know what that specific
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date is. Let's dig around.
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Are you saying like when the trumpets made their debut?
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I don't know. I don't know what that specific
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date is, but I can tell you that it was like.
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Well, let's, let's talk, let's talk this through because I, I
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may be able to figure this out on on the fly here.
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Are we saying when the first walk out was debuted or when
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Timmy Trumpets made his official appearance to the park?
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Because I think those were. I think we're talking 2 separate
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dates here. I'll take Timmy trumpets.
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Timmy trumpets, OK. I think that's a safe because it
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like solidifies what this is. Look, I'm not a hater on the
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walkout. I'm not a hater on having fun.
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I'm not a hater on closers having entrance songs.
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That was 2022. What's happening was three years
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ago 2. 2/23/24 No Guy 2022 That's is that four years ago?
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Is that how math works? No, I don't think you can count
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this year yet because the year hasn't been completed.
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Well, the I mean the season. I'm just going 5 - 2. 2022
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season, 2023 season, 2024 season 20.
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We're in the 2025 season, so that's almost four years.
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Is that how that works? I don't.
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That's crazy. That doesn't add up.
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I don't think that's accurate. That's when he really came out.
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I just, I just counted on my on my fingers.
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I hate that. Doesn't make me feel any
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younger, I know. Alright, well then maybe that
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date doesn't go as far back, but here's my thing dude.
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Like I the reason I asked about when he got pulled because
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Monday against the Phillies comes in in A51 ball game and
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barely sneaks out of there with A5 four save.
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We were on the call when when that game was going on.
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If I were if I if I recall. I'm like, what?
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What are we? He's washed.
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I don't know what else to say. I don't think he's very good.
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I think he's lost his stuff. I think it also, I think it also
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really, truly, genuinely sheds light on the closer role being
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probably one of the three hardest roles in the entire.
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Game, it's so volatile like it's it's in more more now than ever.
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I feel like to your point, it's it's crazy how hard pressed you
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are to find the closer that that is consistent year to year.
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I mean, maybe with the exception of a couple guys, so one or two
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of which are in this conversation we're having right
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now of not being consistent. Sure, but I mean like, that's
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that's why we have these names. Like, that's why you have MO,
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that's why you have Trevor Hoffman, that's why you have Joe
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Nathan. You, you have like a group of.
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Craig Kimbrel to a point. 7 to 10 names, even Craig Kimbrel.
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Like look, I don't miss Geraldo Chapman at all.
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He's looking good so far for Boston this year.
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But like I think we got to put some respect on the overall
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career that Geraldo Chapman has had all the the off the field
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stuff different different conversation, blown saves,
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smiling after a walk off home run.
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Like all of that stuff put aside.
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If we look at like the straight numbers of Geraldo Chapman, it's
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like he's going to be remembered as one of the most dominant
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closers of all time. And that's with all of this
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stuff. That's with all of all of these
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different jerseys that he's worn over the last few years, right?
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Like, it just shows how hard this position is.
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And that's where I going back to Edwin Diaz, That's where I
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started to struggle. When it becomes such a show and
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there and there's such a production and it's so
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manufactured, when in reality you haven't done it that long,
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I'm not surprised. Baseball gods are like, yeah,
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you're about done. You're you're washed.
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Well, I, I let me. Get out ahead of you.
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You're optimistic, so feel. Free to throw that out.
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I don't want you. I don't want you to say
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something that's going to come back.
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Somebody's going to have not that you care.
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But I don't care. I, I know I don't want anything.
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I'm trying to save save you from saying something about Edwin
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Diaz that's going to not age all that well because and I say that
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because like I mentioned, 2 two or three ish rough, rough
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outings for April 9th, April 11th, 5 appearances since then.
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Am I, am I seeing this? No, not not since then, but over
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his last five games rather, he's thrown 5 and a third.
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He's only given up 1 earned run, two hits, two walks and he's had
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10 strikeouts. Hitters are slashing 118 two
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11294 against. So again, as a whole, numbers
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don't look great on the air, but the sample size is only 11
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games. But again, that's all we have to
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go off of. But even more so, recency plays
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into has has some effects here. He's looked he's looked like he
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he looks like he's righted the ship.
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So maybe not. I don't think he lives up to the
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hype. I don't think he's bad.
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I just don't think he is an elite closer.
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I don't I don't feel comfortable putting him in that category.
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And that the Timmy trumpets the walkout like the production, the
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attention almost requires you to be elite in my mind.
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Does that make sense? All of that.
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I would, I would agree with you if you said that maybe two or
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three years ago, but with almost, we talked about the
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closer entrances and everything having with that.
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Yeah, with that becoming more commonplace, it's less of a, a
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factor for me. Maybe, maybe not others, maybe
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not for you, but for me it's less of a thing.
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But I I I understand what you're saying.
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I just, yeah, I I think that's where the disconnect is for me
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and it and it's purely just the gut thing.
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It's not numbers. I, I don't know, the Mets are
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cognitive anomaly right now as far as the pitching goes anyway,
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we're. Going to get into that.
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So, you know, I, I, I could be eating my words here in a couple
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months, but overall, like I, I do think it's going to come back
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down to earth a little bit. And at the same time, I just I
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don't know, man, like closers are mentally just a little
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different. It's just a little different.
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And I get that there can be this buy in with the team.
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Hey, we snuck out a dub, barely got out with the with a win
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there. Like that kind of thing that
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feels like AW in the win column, but like in the column of the
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closer that don't sit the same way.
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And that's what makes those guys, the elite ones, just so
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different. It's a good point.
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Let's hop across town Yankees closer Devin Williams.
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I think with with Diaz, it's a thing like I mentioned a couple
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couple rough goes. But with Devin Williams, I
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correct me if I'm wrong, but it just seems it just seems like
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actually not good right now. It's not just a sample size
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issue. It's just he doesn't have the
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stuff right now. It has.
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It didn't look good in spring training.
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It does not look good at all to the start of the regular season.
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He came out with some semi questionable quotes few days ago
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talking about there's a little jab about maybe throwing his
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change up too much and that we need to work on that.
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Who's this coming from? Devin the media.
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No, it's a there's a sound bite out there.
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Oh, oh, like like collectively as a team, the Yankees we need
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to like work on I got. You he's, he's like kind of lost
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for words. He goes, I don't know, I think
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maybe we're using the change up too much and we need to address
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that, something like that. Keep that behind closed doors
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like. Yeah, what are we doing?
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And that's, you know, those are probably conversations that
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someone's going to have with him.
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Probably judge, probably front office, I don't know.
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But let's face it, like, this is like a big factor that fans
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don't think of is that pitching philosophies don't always align.
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And that's why you have names that are with organizations that
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just don't do anything. And all of a sudden they get to
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and they land with one pitcher, coach or one organization.
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And then all of a sudden stuff gets figured out.
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A lot like the Yankees last closer Clay Holmes, right?
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He's a nobody with the Pirates. All of a sudden they see
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something in his metrics and they're like, let's just bear
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down on this sinker and let's use this, this, this, this.
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And then he had success and he started to become a household
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name, right? It's hard to say.
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It's hard to say. Devin Williams, one place for so
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long, not a whole lot of spotlight in Milwaukee, didn't
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have a the best taste in his mouth at the end of last season
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'cause we saw how his season ended.
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Bro did did Pete Alonzo break Devin Williams?
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That's it. That's a valid question.
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It's a valid question. So it's interesting.
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It really is. It's interesting to, I'm
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wondering, I don't know, I think what's great about this move is
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the fact that Luke Weaver is there and that we've obviously
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seen him take up that role and and do it well.
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But there's philosophies, man. And just like sometimes it
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doesn't align and Boone is very big on like these weird out
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alignments. A lot of times it's like, I'm
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going to bring you in to get one out the in the 8th and then come
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back out for the 9th. I'm going to bring you in with
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guys on and there's certain pitchers that do well with that
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and they're certain certain that don't.
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And so I don't know if there's enough sample size to go off of
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here, but so far, yeah, it has looked awful, awful.
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You mentioned Luke Weaver and I'm I'm 90 to 95% sure I said
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this when the Yankees brought in Devin Williams.
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But I look, I'm not going to say no.
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Like if my team's like, hey, let's go out and get Devin
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Williams. I'm not going to be like, no,
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let's what, let's keep it in house.
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Let's work with what we've got. Like, yeah, I'll take sure, I'll
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take Devin Williams, but I I hate to say it, I really liked
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what I saw from Luke Weaver last year.
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I feel like he's got the I mean, not the not the quirkiness is a
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requirement to be a closer, but it it helps and he's.
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Definitely got that. He's got.
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That like a lot of confidence. Yeah.
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But it's it, it doesn't, it doesn't come out in the
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traditional way. It's kind of it's like it.
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It's like weird. He's like a weird cool kid.
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Yeah, I don't want to say quiet confidence that 'cause I don't
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think that applies here, but it's yeah, you're right.
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He's got like a confidence that you you definitely see and that
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plays in in that kind of role. And the fact that he was able to
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succeed in that market speaks volumes.
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But I to your point, I think it's good that they've got him
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like they've got a possible backup situation in Luke Weaver.
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They don't have to look very far to to find that.
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And that's, that's like my biggest concern with what the
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Yankees do. And my, my biggest concern is
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that like, how much of this is going to be forced because of
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Cashman making this move because of it being a rental versus
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Boone just saying, hey, it's just a rental.
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We don't have to prove anything to this guy.
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Like if, if he wants a role, he needs to perform.
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And if he's if he sucks this year, then we let him walk in
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the offseason. Like we don't lose anything.
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So we might as well get the best version out of him.
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But again, what Boone likes to do with bringing in inning and a
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half ending in the third type guys, Luke Weaver thrives in
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that to get out of a jam come like it'll it'll mop up a 7th,
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come in close out the 8th and then Devin Williams will come in
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the 9th. So like in reality, it'd be
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great if someone stepped into that 6th inning role.
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Fernando Cruz looks really good by the way.
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That guy's a stud. So he's the one that they got
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from the Reds. So I could see maybe a little
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something with that someday, but I don't know.
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What we do know about Devin Williams right now, Average
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Velo, average fastball Velo is down.
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Pitches in the zone is up. His his swing and miss stuff is
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down. Swinging strike, Yeah, swinging
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strike rate down. Not getting as many chases, just
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not not what we've seen from him in years past.
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Giving up, giving up more solid contact is just not what we
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think of when we think of Devin Williams.
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And I don't I mean you're you're the Yankee guy.
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I don't know what the what the panic meter as is that with this
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guy. But like I said, even a guy like
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Edwin Diaz, who you're kind of out on anyway, I feel like the
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panic meter isn't as high for him given the again, couple
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couple starts here there that really ballooned up his numbers.
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But it just doesn't seem like Devin Williams like has it right
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now. So I don't.
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I would almost argue that this is more concerning than an Edwin
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Diaz situation. Oh, I agree.
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I agree. And the fact that like again
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Edwin Diaz has been like established in New York market
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whereas Devin Williams hasn't. So that's an added factor.
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I agree pentameter is pretty high.
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I mean only a year right now. 99 outings for Devin Williams in
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the RA of 788. He's got a WHIP of 2125.
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That's not good. Only 8 strikeouts that's.
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Not good. That's not good.
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Another guy that's been struggling mightily.
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Very comparable numbers actually.
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Like almost identical Emmanuel Class A on the years got a 784
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to Devin Williams, 788. His whip is 2.226 to Devin
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Williams actually lower 2125. And again, these numbers that
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we're sharing this is coming into Thursday.
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So I don't, I don't know who of these, who of these names are
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even playing today. Not a lot of games today so.
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Yeah, it wasn't. Wasn't too many.
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This is coming into Thursday not and not to mention Class A's
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case per 97.8, the word, his ERA, his whip, and his strikeout
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per nine worst marks in his career across the board.
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So another situation where it just doesn't have it.
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And I, I almost want to say that I feel like Class A is getting
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the most, I don't say he, but like most, like the brunt of the
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conversation, most of the, the brunt of the discussion
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surrounding these, these back end guys that have been
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struggling. And for good reason I guess,
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because there for how long he was the most dominant 9th inning
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guy in in baseball at least. Talk about. 2/3 plus years.
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Well, I mean, talk about playoff home runs that could break them.
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You know what Pete Alonso did to Devin Williams, what Stanton
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Judge did to Class A and. Not to mention, was that
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Detroit? Was that Carrie Carpenter?
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Was that who that was in the Detroit series?
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He got after him twice, didn't he?
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Yeah, I think he did. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I think he was. It was either Carpenter or Riley
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Green, I can't remember. But I think it was Carrie.
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Carpenter, I think it was too. Yeah, man, I, I don't know, I
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mean, like luckily similar sentiment that like the Yankees
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have Luke Weaver as a fall back, like Kate Smith.
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I, I, I was in the camp then I'll, I'll bring this back up
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because this could be, these could be words that I eat later
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down the road. I think Cleveland has the best
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bullpen in baseball. And I said that during a hot
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takes episode because Class A and Kate Smith got Cy Young
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votes last year, 2 relievers and now we're seeing Kate Smith just
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like step into this role. No problem.
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Do what he needs to do and he's closed down games.
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So that's good. That's a good safety net, but
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like. Well, he's dealing with
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something too, which I feel like is kind of yeah.
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He's like shoulders comfort. This this tweet from Zach Misel.
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He said when asked Tuesday night if I may know Class A was
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healthy, Stephen Vogt said yes, but that the club wanted to give
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him a second straight day off today, meaning yesterday,
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Wednesday, today. Vogt revealed Class A had
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shoulder discomfort after his outing Sunday.
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Played catch today and his availability is TPD.
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So not what you want to hear. But I mean, I, I, I guess it's
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mildly comforting to know that maybe some of the issues he's
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been dealing with is, is directly correlated or directly
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tied to, to this issue. And that maybe once he gets back
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as close to 100% as he can on the fly, that maybe we, we get
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back to vintage Class A. But tell you what man, between
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these three guys not. It's it's hard to manage.
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It's really hard to manage because you don't know like do
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you, if you bring them out of that role, is their confidence
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gone forever? If you, if you bring them in in
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a non save situation, can you expect the same intensity?
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If they give up runs in that situation, does it rock their
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confidence even more? Or do you continue to put them
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in save situations and you consider to see them blow saves?
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There's like no right answer. It's just each guy is different.
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This is where I'd be really grateful if my manager was a
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former catcher and a manager of the year.
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Stephen Vogt knows what he's doing and they're going to be
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fine. I just, I'd be a little nervous.
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I panic meter. I'm going to go Devin Williams,
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panic, panic. Give me give me you out of 1010
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being the highest. Give me your panic meter for
26:42
each guy. Each of these three.
26:46
I I'm at a 79 for Devin Williams, which is pretty high
26:52
for we're not even in May. I'm at a I'm at a 7/1 for Edwin
27:02
Diaz, then I'm at like a 6/4. OK, for Class A, yeah, I was
27:10
going to say closer to the middle on class AIII mean you
27:14
can't beat that. I mean, I like I said, I know
27:17
the closer position is so hit or miss.
27:20
It can be so wish washy, but you you're not the best closer in
27:24
baseball for consecutive year, like consecutive years and then
27:30
just have this bad of a fall off.
27:31
He's just off to a slow start. I'm not concerned in the least
27:35
for Class A long term. We had, we did have a chat
27:37
comment earlier and it was a really good point is that like
27:40
you don't, you just don't see longevity out of these roles
27:43
like four or five years is like. Impressive, which really makes
27:48
what Mariano did. I mean, Mike, how do you how do
27:52
you do that? That's.
27:53
Crazy with like 1 main pitch. That's that's that's impressive.
28:00
It's impressive, yeah. But but we already know this.
28:03
This is we already know how dominant MO was.
28:07
Speaking of dominance, let's talk about these Mets.
28:09
The best in baseball, the best in all of baseball.
28:14
New York Mets 18 and 7 coming into Thursday.
28:18
Best record in baseball, fresh off a sweep of the Phillies,
28:23
went seven and O on their home stands.
28:29
By the way, the Mets are crushing at Citi Field.
28:33
Yeah, 12:00 and 1:00. 12:00 and 1:00 at home to start the year.
28:37
Best home start in franchise history.
28:42
I'm can I just be honest? I'm really tempted to say we
28:46
know how this story ends, but I've said that the last last
28:51
year or two and sure, it it didn't result in a World Series,
28:56
but that's kind of a cop out for me to be like, well, we know how
28:59
the story ends when the odds are already slim to be what the the
29:03
last team standing. And I understand that.
29:06
So I mean, I don't really know what my barrier or like what I
29:10
what I chalk up as a failure of a season for the Mets really.
29:14
I mean, I guess missing the postseason, but I can't really
29:23
say anything right now because they're they're just playing out
29:25
of their minds. So as as like sound bitey as it
29:30
might be for me to say, well, we know how the story ends.
29:32
Mets are going to met like they always do.
29:34
I've I've said I said that last year and I'm pretty sure I said
29:37
that the year before. And you know, they're the
29:45
results are I guess better at the end of the when it when it
29:49
comes time to to really look at how the season went.
29:53
Maybe then I had predicted it would go, but I I don't know.
29:58
It's it's a I'm. On the fence, too.
30:00
It's a yeah, it's a confusing situation.
30:03
I'm on the fence because like on one side, and I, I say this
30:10
because I say this with a grain of salt, that grain of salt is
30:17
like you're supposed to beat these teams.
30:19
But they've had the Marlins twice, had the Blue Jays, had
30:23
the Twins, they've had the Cardinals.
30:26
So like again, you, you're supposed to beat these teams.
30:30
We can't hold that against them. Their pitching looks really
30:40
good, but like, is that going to last the whole year?
30:47
Well, say what you will about Frankie Montes, I'm not I'm I
30:51
could go either way, whatever. But Sean and I are still being
30:54
on the IL is is certainly a a factor here and it's something
30:59
that. Gene Holmes looks good, but
31:01
like, you've got to assume there's an innings limit at some
31:04
point. Not I don't know if there's a
31:05
limit that they've come out and said they're going to have for
31:08
him, but you're just going to reach a certain point in innings
31:12
where he's going to get tired. Sanga good.
31:18
We know that. He's a great.
31:20
Yeah, we know that. Tyler McGill over performing?
31:26
Or is this Tyler McGill? Like I don't know.
31:28
I don't know man, that's now that's an interesting case
31:30
because I mean he's he's been around the he's been around the
31:35
block a few Times Now. He's been in the league for, for
31:37
a good little bit, it seems, and he's had his moments like he's
31:41
had. And I, and I say I laugh because
31:44
I, I, I feel like I know this strictly from like a fantasy
31:47
perspective, because I've, I feel like that's a name that
31:50
I've like tinkered with adding, adding for.
31:53
But this, but this was like year, this was like seasons ago.
31:57
So it tells me that there's something there.
31:59
He just had it's a matter of consistency with him and that I
32:02
mean, that's that's the case with everybody obviously, but.
32:05
That's what I'm saying. I'm on the fence and like at the
32:07
same time, like you haven't even gotten like full swing Soto yet.
32:15
That's what he hasn't. He hasn't really hit his stride
32:17
yet. Lindor.
32:19
Looks good. You haven't gotten anything from
32:21
the outfield, Brandon Nemo's been been bad.
32:26
So like you said, Soto's been. Pete, Pete hitting what, 340
32:30
something right now? Like that's crazy.
32:33
But like, you got to assume that's going to come down.
32:37
It's like a career 280 hitter. Yeah, but I think impact as a
32:41
whole you can assume is going to not fall too far from where it's
32:45
at. He'll he'll figure out other
32:47
ways. He's still going to head for
32:48
power. He's still he's going to drive
32:50
in runs. He's still going to hit 30, he's
32:51
still going to pop 30, he's still going to score.
32:56
He's still probably going to drive in at least 90 like I I
32:59
don't think. And now with Soto, you can bump
33:01
that up over 100 like I, I he's very much a 3100 guy.
33:06
I don't disagree. I'm just, I'm on the fence.
33:10
There's just seen and I'm not, I'm not talking like end of
33:12
season outlook here, but for maybe we'll we'll just call it
33:16
like the midway point if they can sort of keep up what they're
33:21
doing for, for the next few weeks or next.
33:25
We'll just say next couple weeks and then you start to get some
33:29
some more production out of these guys like a Soto, like a
33:33
Nimmo and maybe Pete cools off a little bit.
33:38
You're going to it. It's a classic baseball scenario
33:41
where you know you got you got this half of the line up or or
33:46
this group of guys carrying the weight and then.
33:49
Rare that the whole lineup is looking at once.
33:51
Right. And when they finally, when that
33:54
finally gives way, it's going to flip flop, you're going to have
33:56
Soto just tearing the cover off the ball 'cause you know that
33:59
that's coming and that's going to I think that's going to spark
34:02
the rest of the line up in some way, shape or form.
34:04
So. I agree and we've talked about
34:06
it all the time. Like it, you got to load up
34:09
wins, man. Like you just got to store all
34:11
these wins up. There's going to be a little bit
34:14
of a regress at some point. I've just, I don't know, I'm
34:20
worried about how much of a fall it would be because like,
34:26
everyone and their mother has come into this season saying the
34:29
Mets pitching does not look deep enough to do what they did last
34:33
year. I think they're overachieving at
34:36
the moment. But like, it's, I, I don't see
34:41
everyone being wrong about that. I think there's going to be a
34:45
big regression in the pitching department.
34:47
I think they're going to continue to hit and you again,
34:50
you'll have guys that show up in a Nimmo and in a Soto.
34:55
Like that's going to happen. They're going to be fine.
34:57
I think, you know, I, I probably have a little nervous about
35:01
Vientos. Francisco Alvarez is like right
35:04
around the corner from coming back.
35:06
He's going through rehab starts so like.
35:09
Mets got the lowest team ERA in baseball, 234.
35:13
Let's be real, is that? Eighth lowest whip.
35:17
Is that their story? Is that what they're going to be
35:19
this year? Like it?
35:21
I don't even think a Met fan would die on that hill.
35:24
Third most strikeouts in baseball as a staff 23239
35:29
Dodgers coming in at 242 and 2nd and the Phillies with 246 and
35:33
1st I. Don't know that's a.
35:37
Good point, though, that's a good point is like is that is
35:41
this going to be a situation where that comes down to earth?
35:45
It ends up being a situation where they end up being what we
35:48
thought they would from a pitching point of view.
35:50
Or is this a situation where you've got a team that sort of
35:55
leans into that a little bit and says, all right, and you know,
35:58
got the classic bulletin board material.
36:00
They ride that wave as best they can throughout the course of the
36:03
season. And we are looking at a team
36:05
that's got one of the better Staffs in baseball when it's all
36:08
said and done it at the end of the year.
36:10
I'm and I'm interested to see if Soto's going to start having fun
36:15
because it just doesn't look like he's having a lot of fun
36:17
right now. It doesn't look like.
36:19
It doesn't, no. Like for a guy that's very
36:22
charismatic in the way he plays it, it just doesn't look like
36:26
he's that's fun. I don't know, Look, I said that
36:34
about Lindor too, by the way, because he was Mr. Smile in
36:37
Cleveland. And then it took a little while
36:38
to kind of like. Yeah, but then who was it?
36:42
I, I, I saw or read recently that, forgive me, I'm forgetting
36:47
which I think it was one of the coaches basically called him out
36:51
and was like, dude, you've been kind of a no show.
36:53
And he talked about, I read how it, it sort of was a wake up
36:57
call for him. He's like, I need to like, I
37:00
need to lock in, like I need to like, like, enjoy what I'm
37:03
doing. I need to like get back to the
37:05
way I played the game. And I'm sure part of that was
37:08
getting back to him, like having fun.
37:10
Because to your point, Mr. Smile, that's what he was known
37:12
for. And that's when he was at his
37:14
best, when he was just going out there and having a grand old
37:17
time. He he, he wasn't doing that to
37:21
start the year. And I think it showed.
37:23
But now he's been that guy's been dialed in, dialed in.
37:29
You just wonder if like, there's a lot, a lot of things are
37:35
different for Juan Soto right now.
37:38
So I'm just, I think it'll be fine.
37:40
I think he's going to hit. Just kind of worried about, I
37:45
don't know, weird comments so far.
37:48
Slow start. Like, I don't know this.
37:50
This is what puts me on the fence about the Mets.
37:52
I just don't know. Dude, do you have MLB Network on
37:56
right now? No surprisingly, TV blank.
38:00
What do we got? What just happened on this Wyatt
38:04
Langford play in left field? Dude lost the ball.
38:08
They're in. They're in Sacramento, which
38:13
speaks probably to the lack of visibility above a certain above
38:18
a certain point. But that look, Oh my goodness.
38:22
Oh good. That looked ugly.
38:25
Poor guy bro, he's just not out of the ball so.
38:28
Yeah, they'll probably, I mean, the Groms on the bump, they'll
38:31
probably, they'll probably be fine anyway.
38:35
All right, let's let's get into it Nate, let's blast let's blast
38:44
some credit. The credit cannon makes its
38:46
return. I'm excited to start with this
38:53
guy 'cause I'll be honest with you, I don't think I was.
38:59
It took a lot for me to come around on this guy and I'm
39:02
hoping that it for his sake and for the team's sake, I'm hoping
39:05
it it it keeps up. But let's let's show some love
39:11
to Pete Crow Armstrong. Pete Crow Armstrong according to
39:16
Optistat, so far this year for the Cubs, 5 homers, 10 stolen
39:21
bases, 15 extra base hits. He's the first player in MLB
39:26
history to reach those marks before the end of April.
39:30
According to MLB Deadline News on Twitter, Pete Crow's
39:33
Armstrong 162 game pace 31 homers 105 RB is 130 runs
39:42
scored, 62 swipes and 11.2 F 4. Cubs are going right now, dude.
39:50
And not to mention five homers on the year, 4 of which being
39:55
against the Dodgers. Cubs look good.
40:01
Cubs look good. Real good.
40:03
And everyone seems to be playing good ball and it's like, it
40:09
seems like a good fit. You like you like to see guys
40:13
just being able to be themselves.
40:15
And he is for sure just being himself, man.
40:18
He's a fan favorite. They're playing good ball.
40:24
And I've said this before, but like, if you can have a good
40:29
April in Chicago offensively and not have to dig out of a hole,
40:36
and when summer hits and the wind starts blowing out, like I
40:41
know you just routed off those 162 numbers, but like, I don't
40:45
think they're crazy. This kids are freaking stud,
40:49
man. There's a reason why they moved
40:51
on from Bellinger. It's good point this.
40:55
Kids are stud. And what you were saying about
40:57
the Mets stacking wins early, same concept applies here for
41:02
pre Pete Crowe Armstrong in stacking this production that
41:07
he's that he's been putting forth thus far.
41:10
Because to your point, it's ugly in Chicago in in April.
41:14
Like nobody, nobody wants to be in Chicago in April.
41:18
Yeah, I mean, there's probably some people that never want to
41:19
be in Chicago anyway. But to my point.
41:22
Look, This is why I said this and, and I don't know, I didn't
41:25
read the chat, but I don't know how you felt when we were
41:27
talking about WBC and Team USA. And I was like, let's just have
41:32
fun and throw this guy's name out there.
41:34
Talk about a guy who will impact a baseball game somehow,
41:41
someway. Elite defense, elite speed.
41:45
He's going to find a way to impact the game.
41:48
You can't bottle him up. And there's only so many names
41:52
you can categorize. You have a Corbin Carroll.
41:55
You have an Ellie De la Cruz. You have an O'Neal Cruz.
41:59
Bobby Wood, Junior. You have a Bobby Wood Junior.
42:03
Am I missing anybody? That's about right.
42:05
As far as like 5. I want.
42:08
I don't want to go crazy as five tools, but as long as yeah, like
42:13
there's guys that you just you can't bottle up.
42:16
What was that? You can't.
42:18
Screw just fell out of my chair. You can't.
42:21
The dude's about to fall. Yikes.
42:23
He's about to fall to the ground.
42:24
Love it you. Can't bottle these guys up, man.
42:26
Like they're they're going to impact the game somehow, some
42:30
way. I like this kid a lot and I like
42:36
that. Like there's something about
42:40
like a Craig Council who just looks as as strict and white
42:46
bread boring baseball mentality as you could ever guess.
42:51
But he somehow has these names that are a little bit more
42:54
charismatic. And you look at the rest of this
42:56
team of like a stoic Kyle Tucker and like a winner in Dansby
43:01
Swanson. And you just you have like these
43:05
names that like, say, a Suzuki seems to be like finally
43:08
settling into American baseball. Like you have these, this mix
43:13
and just everything seems to be going right.
43:15
And then I know central isn't that impressive.
43:18
I I think it's them and the Brewers and I think there's a
43:20
huge gap between the rest. The Brewers look pretty decent
43:25
too. But like anyway, back to BCA
43:28
deserves the canons great start. Put him, put him in the Corbin
43:34
Carroll category. When you saw Corbin Carroll his
43:37
rookie year, I think it's going to be very similar.
43:40
For the record, I'm not writing off the Reds just yet.
43:43
I, I, I feel like I gave them their, their pre season props
43:46
and I, I'm not willing to eat that this early in the year.
43:50
I mean, they're only a game under 500.
43:52
So it's. Fair.
43:54
There's a lot of mediocrity in baseball right now.
43:56
Let's just call a spade a spade. Like there really is.
43:59
There really is. Not entirely across the board.
44:02
But yeah, could be a good bit of mediocrity around.
44:06
Fair enough around baseball. Pull that trigger guy who's.
44:10
Trying to bust out of mediocrity.
44:13
Dylan Cruz, after being the last qualified hitter in all of Major
44:22
League Baseball to record a hit to start the year, is now in the
44:28
midst of an 8 game hitting streak.
44:30
And let me actually check. Did they?
44:32
I don't know. Did they play today?
44:34
They played today. Stand by, they beat the
44:41
Nationals or excuse me, sorry, the Orioles beat the Nationals.
44:45
But let's see if he bumped it up to 9.
44:51
He he broke it at at 8. Still credit to Dylan Cruz. 8
44:57
game hitting streak. During that streak, had a 33
45:00
homers, 5 ribbies, 3 swipes, only one strikeout, an OPS of
45:05
10/22. So you love this.
45:09
You love to see that he managed to walk in there as well, if I
45:13
didn't mention that. But I this is this is all you
45:17
need. You.
45:18
I mean, you're not going to be. Well, what did I say he had?
45:22
Yeah. I mean, he had three home runs.
45:23
But I, I mean, I was going to say like, you don't have to be
45:26
jacking him out every single night to, to get back on track.
45:29
And a guy like Dylan Cruz who's going to hit for average, just
45:34
needed to string together a nice little 8 game hitting streak.
45:36
And I'd, I think hopefully for his sake, he's going to be back
45:40
on track 'cause that's a guy that I'm excited about.
45:43
Should be, should be, yeah. I don't, I don't know if power
45:47
is necessarily going to be his, his style, his game, especially
45:51
in that ballpark. So he needs to figure out how to
45:54
walk more and figure figure out how to get on base and, you
45:57
know, impact with speed and hit for average.
46:01
That's just got to be his game. So it's important for guys like
46:05
this to at least have something to salvage by the end of the
46:10
month he's at he's hitting 188. That's how rough of a start he
46:13
had. So even after this hit streak,
46:15
he's still hitting 188. You'd like you'd like to see
46:18
this guy get over like if you can get over 200 once the
46:23
calendar flips to may like that, that feels like it's
46:27
salvageable. If you see a .1 next to the
46:31
batting average. I know, I know batting average
46:33
doesn't matter. That does that does when it's
46:38
one of the biggest numbers up on the scoreboard every time you're
46:40
walking over the box that matters.
46:42
So I hope you can salvage it. Flip the calendar, keep this
46:46
going, build some confidence. It's a reason he's the number
46:50
two overall pick. Man, he's good.
46:54
It's a hot take in the chat. Nationals will do the same thing
46:56
with Caruso they did with Soto at I'm going to choose to be
47:02
positive with the nationals. Like at some point they're going
47:06
to have to figure out that they can't just they can't become
47:10
what the pirates are to baseball, just like the 29, the
47:14
a minor league or like a, a, a funnel system for the rest of
47:19
the league, like a feeder system.
47:21
You can't, you can't survive that way.
47:25
And I hope they, I hope they come to terms with that.
47:27
I hope they wake up to that reality.
47:28
I I hope that they start giving legitimate contract offers and
47:33
stop giving jokes of offers that are either way too late in in
47:40
the process or way underpriced and and undervaluing that
47:45
talent. Is there another guy in that
47:48
outfield, you know, another young kid that you would like to
47:50
see them maybe give a contract to trying to cover off the ball
47:56
right now? She has a similar name with
47:58
Tiger. Yeah, remind me.
48:03
Sir, Sir King James Wood. James Wood James Wood absolutely
48:11
mashing the baseball right now. He's got 8 homers on the year,
48:17
which Can you help me make sense of this?
48:22
I'm, I'm not great with numbers. I mean, I'm good with numbers,
48:26
but stuff like this confuses me. All right, so you've got Corbin
48:29
Carroll. As of right now, this moment,
48:31
you've got Corbin Carroll, Cal Raleigh, Tyler Soderstrom with
48:35
nine home runs. OK.
48:37
It all says we're. Going to put that group
48:39
together. By the way, that's a.
48:40
Great point, I just read that off as if that was completely
48:44
normal, but. Ridiculous.
48:46
Names stop and think one time. Corwin.
48:48
My goodness. Love baseball, so they're tied
48:51
for first. Makes sense?
48:53
Yeah. Tommy Edmund OK, I guess this
48:57
makes sense. Tommy Edmund, Fernando Tatis,
48:59
Mike Trout and James Wood have 8:00 and it's saying James Wood
49:06
is tied for fourth. And that's seven guys I guess it
49:12
makes. Sense if they have the same
49:17
number. In my mind there, he's just
49:20
tied. He's tied for second most in the
49:22
league. That's how that that's how my
49:24
brain works. I know that probably isn't
49:26
right, but he if you have 8 and the leader and the three leaders
49:30
have 9, aren't you just tied for the second most?
49:35
I don't. That's whatever.
49:36
Don't. Yes, don't listen to me.
49:38
No, you're right. I.
49:39
Clearly, clearly I should have went to school.
49:42
We can't be tied for second when there's three guys that have 9
49:47
net. Forget it.
49:48
Forget I said anything anyway. James Wood, We'll, we'll die on
49:54
this hill together. It doesn't make sense, but it
49:56
makes sense to us. James, as long as there's a tie
49:59
for first place, the rest of the guys will fall for the number of
50:05
correct people tied at first. Which, whatever, it makes sense,
50:09
but in my head James Woods tied for a second.
50:11
Just just go with it, stupid. Just go with it.
50:15
James Wood James Wood coming into Thursday has an OPS of 12 O
50:23
eight in seven games again, coming into Thursday as a lead
50:26
off man, and not to mention has just been mashing for power.
50:34
And this look, this is I I said this was coming this I'm pretty
50:37
sure this was one of my guy. And I'm not going to sit here
50:40
and say like, oh, I found a diamond in the dirt here, but
50:44
James Wood. Throwback.
50:46
Throwback how about that James Wood like like I was saying,
50:52
people know that the talent that this guy that this guy offers,
50:56
but I think people were on the fence about whether or not we
51:00
were still a little early to the scene with this guy, but I think
51:04
he's already shown again in April.
51:07
Granted, it's little more mild out here in DC than it is in
51:11
like a Chicago for a Pete Crow Armstrong.
51:15
But if you can get off to a star like this man and like we talked
51:19
about, pad those numbers, rack up the homers, rack up the RBIs,
51:23
whatever it is that you're trying to rack up, if you can do
51:25
it this early in the season, it sets you.
51:28
It sets you up real nice for when you hit a little bit of a
51:31
slide in June. He gives me like.
51:42
The hands hitting gives me very much, oddly enough.
51:45
Josh Bell. Yeah, just very tight close to
51:48
the ear. Yep.
51:52
And then almost like has like O'Neill Cruz type power and
51:59
length in like. It just seems kind of
52:02
effortless. The fast twitch muscles with
52:04
this guy man like it's it's a sight to behold.
52:10
I was trying to find. I need to get over there.
52:13
Watch. The vaunt for metrics, but yeah,
52:15
no, definitely get over there because that's.
52:17
I need to watch these two aforementioned names.
52:21
This kid looks good, man. This kid looks really, really
52:23
good. You know, that's actually a spot
52:27
I've been, I've sat just. About I've never been in that
52:30
ballpark. I've never been.
52:32
We need to get you out here. It looks great on TVI feel like
52:36
it's that sentiment isn't shared by.
52:39
Me, it's when you're in person. It's overrated.
52:42
It's weird, it's overrated. Don't, I mean, I'll go, 'cause
52:46
it's the closest, but it's, I mean, it's relatively cookie
52:50
cutter. So don't, don't get all, all
52:53
eager to get out of here. But we do still need to get you
52:55
out here for a game. That'd be fun.
52:57
No, but what I was saying is I've sat just about everywhere
53:00
in that park, but I don't think I've sat right there on the left
53:06
field wall, like right there in those first few rows.
53:09
That'd be a that'd be a good spot to watch from.
53:13
Do you like like left field, like literally left field?
53:18
Or do you? Are you talking like corner foul
53:22
pole? Area.
53:22
No, no, like literally like right behind whoever is man in
53:26
man in the real estate out there, like right behind.
53:28
I've done that for right when Bryce was in town.
53:35
I mean you can't really sit in center, like dead center there
53:37
or any park for that matter. But left, well based on the hit
53:43
or high situation, I guess we can say, but left at Nats Park,
53:49
I need to need to make that happen.
53:52
I like left field. I like left field.
53:56
I do like being behind, like a superstar outfielder.
53:58
That's cool too. Speaking of Superstar.
54:03
Bang. Nick Pavetta.
54:08
Yeah. Yeah.
54:08
You didn't expect that name to follow Superstar, but he's
54:11
pitching like one right now. Dude, have you seen this?
54:15
The body work that this guy's put up?
54:17
Fill me in. On the year 4 and one, an ERA of
54:23
1/2 OA WHIP of .7730 KS to just seven walks.
54:34
Listen to these game logs. First start of the year, 7
54:39
innings. Granted it was against the the
54:40
Braves, that didn't really count. 7 innings, 4 KS, no runs,
54:50
just one hit. Next start was slop.
54:55
The Next start 7 innings, 10 KS, No Earned runs.
55:00
Next start 6 innings 1 earned run, 6 KS.
55:05
The next start Most recent start 7 innings, no earned runs, six
55:11
KS. From Sammy Levitt on Twitter If
55:14
you remove Nick Pavetta's start on a frigid day in Chicago
55:17
against the Cubs. 3 innings, 3 innings, 3 earned runs.
55:20
Here are the totals from Again, you remove that start.
55:23
Here are the totals from Pavetta's other four starts of
55:26
the Padres. He's got a .33 ERA across 27
55:32
innings. Pitch, 1 earned run or one run,
55:34
10 hits, 26 KS to four walks. Do we need to talk about the
55:43
Padres pitching staff? I mean, we have, but it's worth
55:49
reminding the folks that whatever that whatever's in the
55:52
water out there in San Diego, at least in the in the pitching
55:55
side of things, hasn't even really.
55:56
Got all things going yet? Actually, what I'm saying, what
56:00
am I saying? Not just the pitching side,
56:02
they're, I mean they're. They're playing great ball, but
56:04
like. All around, yeah.
56:07
You can speak to him more like is is you've seen flashes of
56:11
Nick Pavetta's success. He will go on runs.
56:14
I I can't even say like this because I don't know if he's had
56:18
if he's strung together a, a grouping of starts like this
56:23
before. I mean, maybe he has, I'd have
56:25
to go back and look, but I mean, he's, he's pitching lights out
56:27
right now, but drop it down a notch.
56:31
He'll go on these runs where he's he's the best pitcher on
56:35
your staff at any given point in time during during these
56:38
stretches. And then he can be the worst.
56:39
Then he can be the worst, giving up home run after home run after
56:43
home run, putting guys on traffic like no other.
56:48
Kind of sounds like Carlos Rodon Less less good starts though.
56:54
The thing I've always loved about Nick Pavetta, though, is I
56:58
mean, well, minus a couple of sound bites, because I think at
57:02
one point he got, he got all fussy about his role with the
57:07
staff versus the pen and and whatever.
57:10
But he when he's feeling it, dude is dude is like when he
57:16
when he's on it, he is a bulldog out there.
57:20
Like he yeah, he he's going to have a sound bites in the locker
57:23
room after the game, whatever. But when he is when he's dialed
57:26
in on the mound and he's he's pitching, well, good luck.
57:33
Good luck. I like that.
57:35
I like that. I like, I like what San Diego's
57:39
got going on, man. Like, yeesh.
57:45
Looks good and just wait for Dylan Sees to start rolling
57:49
well. Here's an interesting question.
57:51
Darvish coming back someday, maybe ever.
57:56
I got him stashed. I'm ready.
57:58
Man, I believe it. Here's an interesting question.
58:05
You a bigger believer in the Mets right now given their pre
58:08
season expectations or you're a bigger believer in a Padres?
58:11
Padres. Given their pre season
58:14
expectations because they were drastically different between
58:17
the two. Padres.
58:19
I think that's just your anti Mets by his plan.
58:22
No, I think they're more balanced.
58:24
I think they're more balanced. Fair enough, but I can't argue
58:31
with you there. Yeah, more balanced, better
58:36
defense, better pitching. There's names.
58:40
Papa John's, yeah, there's names there man, Dylan sees proven
58:47
Michael King legit there's names in that staff.
58:53
I just. I would, I would love to have
58:57
and I think I said this when he was, when he was being floated
59:02
around. I, I really wish we had Michael
59:06
King. I I really like Michael King.
59:08
Love Michael King. Love Michael Just.
59:11
Seems like a dude you would love to have in your rotation.
59:16
Just nasty crossfire action. Gross.
59:20
Yeah, man. Any more cannons?
59:25
Jealous. Oh my God.
59:27
Cannons. Hunter Brown.
59:31
Found it. Came across an interesting stat.
59:33
Hunter Brown 1st 7 starts of last year 2024.
59:38
This is according to your daddy 2025 MVP, who by the way, not
59:45
exactly off to an MVP start. Hunter Brown's first seven
59:51
starts. In 2024 he had an 889, which was
59:54
second worst in the league. In his 28 start since then, he's
1:00:00
got a 224. Which is second best in the
1:00:03
league to none other than Paul Skeen's.
1:00:07
Part of him. So Hunter Brown is in Paul
1:00:09
Skeen's territory. That checks out.
1:00:12
And that stretch, which pretty good, pretty good company to
1:00:16
have. Oh, look, I do say so myself.
1:00:18
I do Kalia. Don't we remember like getting
1:00:22
Justin Verlander vibes from this kid when he first came up like
1:00:27
people talked about him in that way, like the it's just it
1:00:31
looked very similar, similar stuff.
1:00:33
A little bit of a fall off and then I feel like everyone just
1:00:37
forgot about him. Kids.
1:00:39
Good kid is good, good for the Stroh's.
1:00:46
They got to do it differently, man.
1:00:48
If the Stroh's want to stay in in consideration, let's be fair.
1:00:54
I, I think this is a good time for the Astros to kind of go
1:01:04
through this trial just because the AL looks fairly soft this
1:01:07
year. So they could take a step back
1:01:11
from what they've been in the past and still be in contention,
1:01:14
but they're going to have to do it differently than the way it's
1:01:16
looked in the past. So interesting to see.
1:01:21
And it's guys like this that have to, they have to step up.
1:01:25
They have to step up. He's got to be a guy.
1:01:28
Jeremy Pena has got to be a guy. Like it's time for the next
1:01:32
group to step in and become what they're supposed to be.
1:01:37
So how do you like this nugget Hunter Brown?
1:01:41
Hunter Brown has not given up a run since the first inning on
1:01:44
April 3rd. That's a nugget.
1:01:53
I'll say that again, Hunter Brown has not given up a run
1:01:56
since the first ending on April 3rd.
1:02:00
There's weird stats right now. I love I love early, but like
1:02:04
kind of enough games have passed where stats are starting to get
1:02:08
crazy. I mean, that was four starts to
1:02:10
go. I know as Jacob Wilson has.
1:02:13
Has he struck out yet? Was this?
1:02:18
Strikeout or a walk. He isn't.
1:02:20
He's one of the two he hasn't had yet.
1:02:22
Well I type in Jacob Wilson and walk was the 1st.
1:02:25
Result. So he's hitting like 340 or
1:02:27
whatever, but he hasn't walked yet.
1:02:30
All right, this was a forgive me, this is the top tweet that
1:02:33
I'm seeing right now. Jacob Wilson.
1:02:36
See, this was April 22nd from Baseball America.
1:02:39
Jacob Wilson season approach so far has been incredible and
1:02:43
extreme. 3.7% strikeout rate, 0% walk rate, 92% contact rate, 45%
1:02:51
chase rate. He hasn't even seen a three ball
1:02:53
count. And then I Scroll down to the
1:02:56
next week. Baseball America says the
1:02:57
Drought's Over, Finally draws a walk and brings home a run for
1:03:01
the A's. You have bases loaded.
1:03:03
Walk. What a stud.
1:03:04
Bases loaded walk. That's dope.
1:03:06
Anyway, how did I miss that? That's crazy.
1:03:08
That's isn't it weird? Like those numbers are unreal.
1:03:12
It doesn't make any sense, but I like that there's like this
1:03:15
strange little chapter that we get in like a month into
1:03:19
baseball where like there's, you know, you're still.
1:03:22
Holding on to these. Really quirky, very strange that
1:03:26
things that just, you look at it and you're like, that doesn't
1:03:28
make any sense. But Hunter Brown anyway, good
1:03:31
streak, good streak going. And one last one here for good
1:03:37
measure, not that we have to go into into depth here, but Bobby
1:03:41
Witt Junior bang, 16 game hitting streak for the kid.
1:03:48
You'll love to see it for the boy.
1:03:52
You'll love to see it for the boyfriend of the program, Bobby
1:03:56
Witt Junior, part owner of Chinook Cedary.
1:04:01
That's what I was going to say. Bobby Witt, Junior, shout out.
1:04:04
I was going to say the best in baseball.
1:04:07
We're basically invited to the WIT Thanksgiving this year, so
1:04:11
that's where we're at. Just a little life update, no
1:04:17
biggie. That's where that's where we are
1:04:19
at the moment of current Yeah. Kids pretty good.
1:04:25
Kids pretty, pretty good, man. And that's really all we got to
1:04:29
say on it, honestly. Yeah, I told you, there's
1:04:32
certain categories of names that just will find a way to impact
1:04:37
the game somehow, some way. And his athleticism is
1:04:41
unmatched, man. He like, go ahead, say what you
1:04:45
want about me as a as a baseball fan here, but like Bobby Witt to
1:04:50
me, and I know maybe he doesn't have as much flair as as certain
1:04:56
people may may like or or prefer.
1:04:59
But Bobby Witt junior to me is just like the the like
1:05:07
quintessential baseball player. Man plays the game hard, has
1:05:12
every tool, plays the game right, says all the right
1:05:18
things, does all the right things, handles himself well,
1:05:21
doesn't get into trouble. Has drip, he's not super boring.
1:05:26
I mean, come on. If you were to steal a a current
1:05:32
MLB or MLB life and swap places. He got his bag.
1:05:42
I mean, he's like we met. Just say that name.
1:05:45
Part owner of a company, Chinook Cedery.
1:05:49
Like, what are we doing? What a what a kid.
1:05:54
What a kid. I'm man, I love me some Bobby
1:05:57
Witt. Yeah.
1:05:59
We'll get to see him in Atlanta. That's.
1:06:02
Going to be sick. Barring any any catastrophic
1:06:07
events, but I'm not going to put that out there.
1:06:11
We'll see you in Atlanta, Bobby. Closing the book real quick.
1:06:15
Blake Snell shut down from his throwing program after.
1:06:23
Was it some discomfort after playing catch on Tuesday, Dave
1:06:28
Roberts said he's not concerned necessarily.
1:06:31
They're taking taking precautions.
1:06:33
So you know. It's no need, take your time.
1:06:40
Take your time literally as as the show.
1:06:43
Hey, New Balance commercial is on my screen like I said.
1:06:46
Hey, hey, what's hey, I said. Hey, hey, hey.
1:06:57
I hate that I know get. A commercial off my TV New
1:07:03
Balance we got now. Dude, no, I don't know why I
1:07:06
just made show hey. I don't know why, I just made
1:07:09
show. Hey Latin.
1:07:11
I liked it. Thank you dude, it's been years.
1:07:15
A single New Balance item. It's been years since I bought
1:07:18
something New Balance, but you know, maybe they'll finally get
1:07:20
to me. Maybe they'll finally get to me
1:07:23
with this commercial. Hey, hey, hey, Put.
1:07:29
An air in an air. We, we, we need to incorporate
1:07:32
that into the show somehow. Like should maybe that should
1:07:34
replace our intro song. Just maybe.
1:07:37
Hey, hey, hey, Jock Peterson ended his Hitler streak, broke
1:07:44
his O for super predictable headline here.
1:07:48
Jacques Peterson breaks his O for 41 slump last night with a
1:07:51
double off 101 mile an hour fastball from Mason Miller of
1:07:56
all people. Baseball's weird, man, what can
1:07:59
I say? That's that's the beauty of I
1:08:03
mean like hitting is. Stupid.
1:08:05
It's what it is. Throw it as hard as you want.
1:08:07
Like most hitters are going to be like, I gotcha.
1:08:10
We're fine. Especially in a moment where
1:08:13
you're struggling. You know what I'm saying?
1:08:16
Like there was nothing better when you were playing shortstop
1:08:19
and you boot a ball and you're like, maybe the next game in
1:08:24
high school, you're like playing third and you're just like,
1:08:27
perfect. I don't have to react.
1:08:29
I just or I don't have to think. I just react like it's just
1:08:31
ground ball. Boom.
1:08:32
Got it. So much easier than shortstop,
1:08:34
by the way. So much easier.
1:08:36
Yeah, playing third was the best.
1:08:39
Similar as a hitter, man, It's just like, it'd be nice to just
1:08:43
base somebody. That doesn't make me absolutely
1:08:47
twist myself into the dirt. Like, just throw as hard as you
1:08:50
want. I'm going to get there.
1:08:52
I don't have to think she's got to do it.
1:08:55
Some people are telling Jock to retire, man.
1:08:58
Did you hear that? It's interesting.
1:09:03
Yeah, real interesting. Was that?
1:09:07
Was that you by chance? That wasn't me.
1:09:09
I like that lineup. I like that lineup.
1:09:11
Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK.
1:09:13
You know what? What?
1:09:16
No, go for it. Go ahead.
1:09:17
I was just going to say, I like, I like that Jake Burger's
1:09:20
growing a beard now. He doesn't seem as chubby than
1:09:23
when he was just rocking a mustache in Miami.
1:09:26
He seemed chubby with just the mustache, you know?
1:09:29
He did. He was a He was a hefty boy.
1:09:32
Yeah, he looks better now. Looks drop some L BS.
1:09:34
It looks good, looks real good. But hey, you know what?
1:09:37
We're out of the segment. But you know what?
1:09:40
If you're going to snap your O for 41, slump against Mason.
1:09:43
Miller. Let's give him the cannon.
1:09:45
Jock Peterson. By the way, opponents were
1:09:48
hitting 143 off of Miller's fastball this year, so that adds
1:09:54
up. And last thing we got here, have
1:09:59
you seen the switch pitcher in the Miners?
1:10:03
Which one? What's his name?
1:10:08
We've had a few come across. Dude, you asked me, you're
1:10:11
asking me to pronounce his name. Yeah, please.
1:10:14
Really. You're asking me to pronounce
1:10:16
his name? By the way, you got you got
1:10:17
called out in the chat. They said no position in
1:10:19
baseball is easy. I'm telling you third base.
1:10:27
I mean, if you had to rank them, if you had to power rank them,
1:10:29
if I, I'm. Telling you I.
1:10:30
Love me some third base baby. Dude, it's just night and day.
1:10:35
Just reactionary compared to shortstop.
1:10:39
Shortstop's sometimes just a miserable place to be.
1:10:45
No. So you asked me to pronounce the
1:10:46
name of the switch pitcher into minors?
1:10:51
Durangelo nailed it, bro. The last name.
1:10:55
Come on. No, I can't.
1:10:57
How? How would you pronounce his
1:10:59
name? CIJNTJE.
1:11:06
Don't even act like you have an answer to that.
1:11:08
Question one more time. One more time.
1:11:09
CIJNTJE that's that's 4 consonants in a row.
1:11:18
I don't even know what sound that makes.
1:11:20
I feel like the JS are silent, right?
1:11:24
OK, So it's Sinte. Pretty sure this is, I think.
1:11:34
Isn't he Latin Sinte? I don't know.
1:11:40
Anyway, he's a switch pitcher, first round pick for the
1:11:43
Mariners in, well, last year actually.
1:11:46
He's pitching for Hi Everett right now. 5 foot 11200 lbs.
1:11:57
Look, he can push triple digits. That's what I was going to say.
1:12:00
If if you're burning a first round pick on something like
1:12:03
this, he's going to be good. Can pump close to triple digits
1:12:09
from the right right side and then from the left, which they
1:12:14
said is his natural side. Don't know how that makes sense.
1:12:19
It throws from a lower arm slot and sits around 90.
1:12:24
Oh, so it's got like different stuff from each side?
1:12:29
Which doesn't quite seem fair. That's sick.
1:12:33
That's nice with the Mariners. Yeah, hi, Everett, the Aqua Sox.
1:12:44
Where's Everett, WA? I feel like it is, but let me
1:12:50
confirm here. Everett Aqua sucks.
1:12:56
I forgot to tell you, I was at the I was at Sloane Park, the
1:13:02
Cubs training. Facility last week.
1:13:06
My. Everett, WA Yeah.
1:13:08
Nailed it. My, we replaced one of their
1:13:11
cameras right outside of their, their clubhouse.
1:13:15
It's funny, just like parking in like the player parking lot.
1:13:19
And you can see like the guys that got paid because you can
1:13:23
see the cars. And then you can see like the
1:13:26
guys who are very much just like like sign there when they were
1:13:31
like 16 because there's like a bunch of apartments across the
1:13:34
street and they're just coming in on scooters.
1:13:38
They're wearing slides and they're coming in on scooters
1:13:40
with like massive headphones. I love it.
1:13:43
They're just scootering through the parking lot.
1:13:45
Yeah. That's cool.
1:13:47
Kids have fun, man. They.
1:13:48
Broke. They broke.
1:13:51
They had a panoramic camera that was hanging off the wall above.
1:13:55
It was coming out of their back entrance of their clubhouse and
1:13:59
then the umpire room that was coming out.
1:14:03
And they had set up a Frisbee golf course, like in the little
1:14:08
patch of grass behind center field of the side field.
1:14:11
Love that. And there's video of one of them
1:14:14
just holding on to it too long, and it just smokes the camera.
1:14:18
Camera falls. Oh, no.
1:14:21
And then the camera, you just see, like, it's like, dangling.
1:14:24
And he can see one of the lenses looking at him.
1:14:26
And they're just like, they walk over and they're looking up at
1:14:28
it, and there's glass everywhere.
1:14:30
Oh, it's pretty funny. Yeah.
1:14:33
Love that. Anyway, story over somewhat
1:14:37
related. Speaking of Speaking of love, we
1:14:40
love you all. Thank you for hanging out with
1:14:42
us. Those that are watching and and
1:14:44
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1:14:48
It would seriously, like seriously, it would mean a lot
1:14:54
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1:16:31
We haven't talked about Somebody.
1:16:32
Tell us we're talking about somebody too much.
1:16:35
Tell us I'm going to We might. Listen, I might.
1:16:39
I'm going to I'm going to need I want to I want to open up the
1:16:42
credit can and like this is going to be a it's going to be a
1:16:45
crowd sourced effort as as this continues like it.
1:16:48
If if, if somebody deserves to be hit with a cannon, let me
1:16:51
know and I'll I'll I'll weigh it amongst the what I the list that
1:16:57
I've sort of contrived, but what you got.
1:17:01
If Aaron Judge is still hitting over 400 this time next week, he
1:17:04
needs a cannon. I'm just going to say that.
1:17:07
I know it was. It was really hard to leave him
1:17:09
off the list. But but they're we're trying to
1:17:12
dig in a little bit. I mean, there's guys that you
1:17:15
know are going to be that like they're going to be.
1:17:17
Yeah, but I mean if he's in over 400 and when in May?
1:17:20
Yeah, yeah, it's valid. We got to talk.
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I said no, no, you're right. You're right.
1:17:24
You're right. I'm just trying to get some of
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these guys that may or may not be understood worthy or eligible
1:17:30
for the list in the coming weeks.
1:17:31
Who knows? Same with Paul Goldsmith, by the
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way. I don't know.
1:17:38
It's hitting like 360. But yeah, to to kind of put a
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ball on what Nate's Nate was saying.
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If you go to games, tag us. Like tag us in your stories.
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Like yo-yo, take, I'm at the game, I'll plug it.
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I love when you all are thinking about us when you go to anything
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baseball related or anything baseball related.
1:18:02
You got the TV on. You wanna show us what you're
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having for dinner with the TV in the background?
1:18:07
Dude, this OK, this. I'm glad you brought that up.
1:18:10
This this is the thing we kind of started in our fantasy league
1:18:13
group chat, just not intentionally, just simply, I
1:18:17
think just by accident, like somebody shared what they were
1:18:20
having for dinner. And now it's like every day it
1:18:22
sounds, it sounds silly, but I'm telling you when if you're a
1:18:25
foodie and you enjoy food, you like seeing these these feasts
1:18:30
that other people are preparing as they're sitting down to watch
1:18:33
some baseball. So today's point, tag us in a
1:18:36
story. If you're sitting down with a
1:18:38
cold brew and a nice, a nice, maybe you prepared yourself a
1:18:41
nice little steak or a burger or a nice plate of pasta, 'cause
1:18:46
he's Italian. Then tag us and I'll post to the
1:18:50
story because this is a shared experience and I'm all about it.
1:18:54
And we love you all and we are grateful for you.
1:18:57
And as I mentioned, if you can subscribe, we would greatly
1:19:02
appreciate it or, or whatever it is that you do to, to maybe help
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us out a little bit because the more help we get from you guys,
1:19:09
the more we can do this. And that's what it's all about.
1:19:11
So thank you all. We love you.
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It's all I got. More most importantly, if you
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buy and or are consuming Chinook seeds, definitely use the promo
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code and definitely tag us in that as well.
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Because and tag them because they you want to talk about
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plugs. They love sharing when people
1:19:30
are are pulling a trigger on some.
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They're all about it, they're all about it.
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That's all I got. Let's let's party up this
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weekend. Don't go chasing car, boss.
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Let's have a weekend, we love you all, and as always, looking
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forward to talking more baseball with you guys soon.
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Until next time, stay filthy.