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ON THE RUN: Beautiful Blonde Warden "Missing" With Killer · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A murder takes place the
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Speaker 1: sheriffs the police investigators move heaven and earth to catch
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Speaker 1: the killer, bringing some peace to the murder victim's family,
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Speaker 1: and he goes to jail right wrong, enter a female
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Speaker 1: jail warden. Somehow she and the killer disappear together. What yes,
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Speaker 1: disappear together? A female jail guard apparently helps a killer
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Speaker 1: a thirty six escape and both have seemingly vanished off
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Speaker 1: the face of the earth. Now what about this? What
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Speaker 1: if he forced her to help him and now they're
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Speaker 1: on the run together. How much longer is she gonna
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Speaker 1: be alive? I mean, see, Grace, this is Crime Stories.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation.
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Speaker 1: In series Sex M one eleven, the clock is ticking
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Speaker 1: talk talk How long will he keep her alive? Now
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Speaker 1: that he's escaped, it no longer needs her first of all,
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Speaker 1: take a listen to our friends at w VT M thirteen.
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Speaker 1: Happening now in North Alabama, the search continues for an
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Speaker 1: escaped inmate and missing sheriffs deputy. A blue aler was
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Speaker 1: issued yesterday, hours after Deputy Vicky White failed to show
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Speaker 1: up with Casey White, who was not related to her.
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Speaker 1: The Lauderdale County Sheriff says the inmate was never scheduled
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Speaker 1: to be in court and says their disappearance comes with
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Speaker 1: plenty of unanswered questions. Did she assist him in escaping?
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Speaker 1: That bobbed to say a possibility, So we're looking into that.
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Speaker 1: At one angle of the investigation, was she kid can
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Speaker 1: route to the poorhouse and you know, taken a gaster wheel. Well,
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Speaker 1: the inmate, Casey White, is currently facing capital murder charges.
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Speaker 1: He's considered to be armed dangerous as Deputy White was
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Speaker 1: armed at the time, so now we believe they are
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Speaker 1: armed to the hilt. She has her service weapon and
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Speaker 1: what does he have? Again, thank you for being with
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Speaker 1: us as the clock is ticking down on the disappearance
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Speaker 1: of Connie Ridgeway. She has two sons. Then you've got
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Speaker 1: the Connie Ridgeway victim in the original murder case who
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Speaker 1: has two sons who are totally distraught by this. You
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Speaker 1: have the murder suspect, Casey White on the run, and
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Speaker 1: you have the female guard, Vicky White no relation, joining
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Speaker 1: me in all star panel to make sense of what
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Speaker 1: we know right now. But first I want to go
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Speaker 1: to Sheriff Rick Singleton. He is the laudnd Old County Sheriff.
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being with us. Sheriff, and guys,
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Speaker 1: you go on Facebook if you have any information to
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Speaker 1: the Lauderdale County Sheriff's office. Lauderdale as in Fort Lauderdale,
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Speaker 1: but this is in Alabama. Sheriff. Thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us. I know you are in the middle of
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Speaker 1: a man hunt right now, so your time is extremely valuable. Sheriff.
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Speaker 1: Tell everybody where is Lauderdale County. Lauderdale County is in
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Speaker 1: northwest Alabama. We border the Tennessee River. We border Tennessee
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Speaker 1: on our north end and Mississippi to the west. County
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Speaker 1: of about ninety five thousand population. Flrench is the county
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Speaker 1: seat with about forty five thousand population. Also home with
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Speaker 1: the University of North Alabama and the same recording studio.
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Speaker 1: I guess aired more known for music than anything. Muscle
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Speaker 1: shoals just right across the river from us AH. Now
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Speaker 1: I get a muscle shoals. I was with you on
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Speaker 1: the Tennessee line and many more of the things you identified,
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Speaker 1: but muscle shoals, that's big, especially in the recording world.
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Speaker 1: To Sheriff Rick Singleton who was taking time out of
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Speaker 1: the manhunt right now, and guys bolo bolo on Casey
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Speaker 1: White and with him we believe still alive. No relation
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Speaker 1: Gael Warden Vicky White. Um, Sheriff, Yeah, you said about
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Speaker 1: ninety thousand. That's a lot bigger than where I came from.
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Speaker 1: Tell me about Lauderdale. And one thing that really caught
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Speaker 1: my attention is when he said Tennessee line. You know,
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Speaker 1: they're way gone over the Tennessee Line. Don't you think
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Speaker 1: the first way they would go is to get out
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Speaker 1: of Alabama? You would think so. Um, you know, the
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Speaker 1: Tennessee Line is just twelve miles from the city of Florence,
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Speaker 1: and so you know it's it's easy access across the
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Speaker 1: state lines. We have people coming back and forth, you know,
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Speaker 1: obviously on a daily basis. So it's very as a
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Speaker 1: very close proximity to us. So that's definitely one of
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Speaker 1: the directions of travel that they could have taken. What
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Speaker 1: interstate would they be on, Sheriff if they And the
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Speaker 1: reason I say, just naturally I think they'll cross the
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Speaker 1: state line is because authorities in Tennessee. While they may
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Speaker 1: be trying to help you, this is not an emergency
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Speaker 1: for them, it's an emergency for Alabama. So the further
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Speaker 1: away they can get from the Alabama boundaries, that's what
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Speaker 1: they're going to try to do. That's just my speculation.
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Speaker 1: What do you think, I think? So you know, they
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Speaker 1: could obviously by now be anywhere anywhere in the country,
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Speaker 1: even out of the country. Our biggest obstacle that we
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Speaker 1: run into is we're working hard to identify a second
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Speaker 1: getaway car. The pro car was abandoned within ten minutes
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Speaker 1: of the time they left the detention center, and obviously
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Speaker 1: they got in another vehicle, and we're having a really
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Speaker 1: difficult time trying to identify that vehicle. We do have
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Speaker 1: some leads that were following up on a couple of
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Speaker 1: them were very promising, so we're hoping that we can
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Speaker 1: get a positive confirmation that that has to what vehicle
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Speaker 1: they could possibly be. A sheriff. Rick Singleton is with me,
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna bring in the rest of the panel
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Speaker 1: just one moment. Let me give you the tipline everybody.
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Speaker 1: It is eight hundred three three six zero one zero
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Speaker 1: two repeat eight hundred three three six zero one zero two.
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Speaker 1: There's also the Lauderdel County Sheriff's office two five six
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Speaker 1: seven six zero five seven five seven. I'm gonna keep
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Speaker 1: giving you that in Fox Nation, if you don't mind,
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Speaker 1: just keep flashing that up on the screen, because I
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Speaker 1: really believe this woman, even if she helped him, and
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Speaker 1: I don't know that she did or didn't. Even if
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Speaker 1: she helped him, her life is in danger. You don't
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Speaker 1: think he'll kill her in a New York minute if
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Speaker 1: she slows him down, or if she has second thoughts
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Speaker 1: and decides to turn around and go back home to mommy,
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Speaker 1: who knows what could happen. He will show no mercy
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Speaker 1: because he is not going back to jail alive in
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Speaker 1: his mind, and he will take her straight to hell
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Speaker 1: with him. Guys, those of you just joining us. A
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Speaker 1: female guard escapes with a thirty eight year old murder
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Speaker 1: suspect in the last hours. Cops now sharing new photos
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Speaker 1: of the inmate facing the death penalty over a two
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Speaker 1: thousand fifteen hit on a woman. He murders, a mother
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Speaker 1: of two, then later claims couldn't keep his app shut
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Speaker 1: that it was a hit. Okay, maybe maybe not. Guys,
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Speaker 1: you were just hearing our friends at w VTM thirteen.
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Speaker 1: Now take a listen to John Popepki at w VTM
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Speaker 1: thirteen US Our Cut two. The search continues for a
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Speaker 1: missing murder suspect and deputy this morning. Casey White is
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Speaker 1: facing a capital murder charge. He was last seen just
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Speaker 1: before ten Friday morning with correctional officer Vicky White at
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Speaker 1: the Lauderdale County Detention Center. Investigators say the two were
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Speaker 1: heading to a mental health evaluation, but the Lauderdale County
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Speaker 1: Sheriff says there was no appointment schedule. He says they're
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Speaker 1: looking at the investigation from a few different angles. The
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Speaker 1: first possibility is White kidnapped the deputy, while the other
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Speaker 1: could be that the deputy aided his escape. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if she was coerced threatened to carry that plan out,
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Speaker 1: or she did it willingly, or of course, you know,
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Speaker 1: if somehow he overpowered her in the four blocks from
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Speaker 1: the detention center of the courthouse and took control of
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Speaker 1: the vehicle and her. The Sheriff's office has tried getting
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Speaker 1: in touch with her, but her phone goes straight to
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Speaker 1: voicemail right there. I'm trying to find out one more
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Speaker 1: thing before I go to specially guests joining us. De
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Speaker 1: Quan Lee from w A f F forty eight and
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Speaker 1: Huntsville Sheriff Rick Singleton joining me the sheriff in Lauderdale
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Speaker 1: County Sheriff again, thank you for being with us in
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Speaker 1: the midst of the man hunt. Regarding her phone, has
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Speaker 1: it been paying to its last location? Well, of course,
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Speaker 1: we're using all the technology available to as our federal partner,
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Speaker 1: this Marshall see passed forward to st of leading the search.
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Speaker 1: We also have access to the FBI Secret Service and
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Speaker 1: thank you and the state of law enforcement making use
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Speaker 1: helping us. So we're using all the technology available because
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Speaker 1: the craft to get a location on them so far,
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Speaker 1: those ever to have been unsuccessful. You know, Sheriff Singleston,
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Speaker 1: I've known of a lot of law men that do
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Speaker 1: not want to call in anybody to help them. This
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Speaker 1: is now, I believe over state borders. I am so
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Speaker 1: glad you're bringing in the US marshals. You know, don't
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Speaker 1: don't mess with them. I'm just telling you that much
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Speaker 1: you see a US Marshall coming, you might as well
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Speaker 1: just lay down on the ground and put your hands
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Speaker 1: up in the air because they have all this technology.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Sheriff, I'm from Bibb County unincorporated bib County,
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Speaker 1: which is outside of Macon, Georgia. There's no way that's
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Speaker 1: rural law enforcement has all this technology that the FEDS
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Speaker 1: have for Pete's sake, that was so smart. But still
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Speaker 1: even on what they're doing, you can't. They haven't been
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Speaker 1: able to get a ping on her phone. No, we
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Speaker 1: have not, and you know, as I said, you know
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Speaker 1: that they have been tremendous. We had the US Marshall
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Speaker 1: s Tasslorce. I actually have a deputy assigned to that
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Speaker 1: task force and they've been on it. They got on
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Speaker 1: it within two hours of the when we were made
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Speaker 1: aware of what we had going on. Hey guys, when
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Speaker 1: you hear the sheriff say he's got a deputy assigned
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Speaker 1: of that task or sheriff, I'll never forget one of
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Speaker 1: my very best investigators went on assignment to the ATF.
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Speaker 1: Never saw him again. You know, once they go to
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Speaker 1: the fads bennut go back. So brace yourself. Time stories
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Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace straight out to de quin Lee joining us.
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Speaker 1: He is with w a f F forty eight. Dequan Lee,
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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us? How and the Hey
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Speaker 1: did this happen? You know, right before we went to
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Speaker 1: air Dequon, I was telling you guys about the Fulton
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Speaker 1: County Courthouse massacre where several of my friends were murdered
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Speaker 1: in the courthouse because an inmate overpowered a female sheriff.
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Speaker 1: She was armed as they were coming up the courthouse elevator.
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Speaker 1: We still don't know how it happened exactly, but he
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Speaker 1: did it. This guy came in and gunned down Judge
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Speaker 1: Rowland Barnes, who was a friend in the colleague. I
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Speaker 1: played softball with him on the same softball league, my
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Speaker 1: longtime court reporter, others, and it's just out of the blue.
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Speaker 1: How do we think this happened to Quan Lee? Now,
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Speaker 1: this situation is pretty remarkable. We have a lady who
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Speaker 1: recently just filed for retirement the day before this escape
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Speaker 1: happened and just recently solid So the situation and as
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Speaker 1: we started getting or details about it, it really bocles
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Speaker 1: my mind. For one thing, it's another thing to see
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Speaker 1: how coordinated this attempt. Well, this escape has been from
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Speaker 1: top to bottom. Well I'm not I'm not necessarily saying
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Speaker 1: she is aiding in the building, but when you look
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Speaker 1: at too many circumstances that seem so TV is You're right?
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Speaker 1: Go ahead, now, imagine you're selling Netflix a TV series,
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Speaker 1: a mini series, a docum series, if you will, where
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Speaker 1: you have this correctional officer and you have this in
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Speaker 1: inmates that's in accused with murder, and they escape together.
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Speaker 1: She recently sold her house, she recently filed for retirement.
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Speaker 1: Netflix would eat this up. They would actually tell you
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Speaker 1: it's too too soon and too cheesy to actually put
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Speaker 1: on their lineup. But who want to day? And you
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Speaker 1: have this situation playing out in Porticos White here around
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Speaker 1: ten o'clock they say they're getting rid of the head
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Speaker 1: to a mental health evaluation session that we now know
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Speaker 1: was focus. And now we have two people on the
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Speaker 1: run for the past couple of days, and now we've
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Speaker 1: got all the big wigs involved trying to figure out
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Speaker 1: where these two could have possibly gone. It's absolutely plutaous.
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Speaker 1: If you ask me, well, you know what I say.
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Speaker 1: Sheriff Rick Singleton, the elected sheriff there in Laurderdale County,
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Speaker 1: when you don't know a horse, look at his track record.
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Speaker 1: This guy has already murdered a woman at least once
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Speaker 1: that we know of, and now he's alone with a
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Speaker 1: woman on the run. Whether she helped him or not,
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Speaker 1: her life is in danger. I mean, there is no
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Speaker 1: two ways about a sheriff, oh exactly. And you know,
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Speaker 1: talking about the way that this was orchestrated. Of course,
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Speaker 1: we now know that he obviously assisted him escape the
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Speaker 1: facts that we've been able to put together. Director White
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Speaker 1: was the assistant director of operations at the Penton Center.
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Speaker 1: Part of her responsibilities once were to coordinate all transports,
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Speaker 1: all inmate transport, holdall sheriff. I don't think the rest
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Speaker 1: of the world knows how difficult task that is. I
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Speaker 1: remember at the courthouse, sheriff. I'd be pulling in at
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Speaker 1: quarter of eight and I see buses, four to five
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Speaker 1: buses coming in from the Fulton County jail and all around.
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Speaker 1: If people who have been extradited going under guard underneath
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Speaker 1: the jail house, where then a giant gate would come
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Speaker 1: down behind them so they couldn't get out, they'd go
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Speaker 1: under the courthouse and then brought up to the courtrooms
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Speaker 1: on special secured elevators. So transporting, he just said, she
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Speaker 1: was in charge of all that transport. That is no
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Speaker 1: easy thing. So she had to be really responsible and
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Speaker 1: really smart to do all that exactly. Just about a
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Speaker 1: few minutes before she'd left a detention center with la
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Speaker 1: Casey White, two vans of inmates had had left a
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Speaker 1: detention centers. The first n had two deputies and seven inmates.
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Speaker 1: Ten minutes later, the second van left with two deputies
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Speaker 1: and five inmates, headed to the courthouse, which is about
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Speaker 1: four blocks up the street. Just minutes after that second
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Speaker 1: van left, Director White instructed one of the corrections deputies
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Speaker 1: to bring Casey White up and prepare him for transport.
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Speaker 1: By that we mean that he was handcuffed, leg shackles
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Speaker 1: were put on him. She then advised the booking auser
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Speaker 1: that she was the only certified deputy firearm certified deputy
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Speaker 1: available to carry him, and that she was going to
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Speaker 1: carry him up but to the courthouse, turn him over
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Speaker 1: to other deputies, and from there she was going to
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Speaker 1: get a medical check up because she wasn't seeing them well.
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Speaker 1: So when you say yeah, he says something else that's
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Speaker 1: really critical. Double shackle. He's got handcuffs and leg shackles.
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Speaker 1: The only other thing he could have done is put
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Speaker 1: a chain around his waist and put the leg shackles
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Speaker 1: and the handcuffs chained to the waist shackle, and and
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Speaker 1: that was in place. He did have the waist chain on. Gosh,
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Speaker 1: she had to help him. Oh, you can't get out
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Speaker 1: of a triple shackle like that, just like unless you've
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Speaker 1: got the key. I mean, maybe somebody got to could
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Speaker 1: get out handcuffs like they do in the movies. That
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Speaker 1: does happen. You can actually wrangle around sometimes and get
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Speaker 1: out of them, but out of a waist and a
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Speaker 1: leg shackle, which was right. This guy's as a killer,
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Speaker 1: of course he should be triple shackles. But to do that,
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Speaker 1: he'd had to be been a Hootini. He's got five minutes,
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Speaker 1: less than five minutes a four block drive to get
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Speaker 1: out of a waist chain with handcuffs, leg shackles, somehow
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Speaker 1: gets into the control of the vehicle in her in
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Speaker 1: a four block area that's very heavily traveled as far
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Speaker 1: as traffic those so there's just no way. But they
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Speaker 1: never headed towards the courthouse. You went through the intersection
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Speaker 1: and instead of going left to go the courthouse, you
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Speaker 1: turned right and went to the shopping center where they
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Speaker 1: abandoned the car. You know, And another thing about this guy,
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Speaker 1: this ain't his first time at the rodeo. Take a
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Speaker 1: list an hour cut seven our friends at waf punsible
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Speaker 1: Casey Cole White was arraigned today, but not without complications.
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Speaker 1: We got information yesterday that he had made a shank
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Speaker 1: and he intended to escape today to take a hostage.
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Speaker 1: Lauderdale County District Attorney Chris Connolly says they found two
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Speaker 1: shanks in the shower belonging to White before the arrayment.
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Speaker 1: During the arrayment, he pled not guilty to both charges
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Speaker 1: by reason of insanity. The judge also released him back
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Speaker 1: into custody of the Department of Corrections, where he was
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Speaker 1: in prison for a string of other unrelated charges. Our
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Speaker 1: deputies did a great job, found the shank and eliminated
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Speaker 1: that that thread this morning, So we obviously aren't be
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Speaker 1: quipped to house somebody like that long term in our jail,
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Speaker 1: So we're happy that the judge ordered in to go
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Speaker 1: back to the Department of Corrections. Now, when you hear
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Speaker 1: the words jail and doc or CI Department of Corrections
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Speaker 1: Correctional Institute, jail is the local jail. The penitentiary is
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Speaker 1: much bigger, with a lot more wardens. As they're commonly
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Speaker 1: called to handle the jail population. So that's one jail.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure that was glad to see the last. To
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Speaker 1: him joining me. Percy pittsur a former federal warden, thirty
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Speaker 1: year career incorrections and founder of Creative Corrections Educational Foundation.
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Speaker 1: You can find them at CCEF Scholarships dot org. Percy thinks,
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Speaker 1: so great to have you with us today. Well, thank
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Speaker 1: you for having me. What protocols are typically in safe?
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Speaker 1: Now you're a fed, but what protocols would typically be
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Speaker 1: in set in place? So a single warden, as I'm
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Speaker 1: calling her, would not be tempted in any way to
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Speaker 1: help an inmate. And this guy can be charming. All right?
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Speaker 1: Did you hear what? Let me back up, you hear
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Speaker 1: what happened with two shanks? I'm sure you've seen your
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Speaker 1: share of shame and they're mean as hell. They can
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Speaker 1: kill you. I mean, explain, how do you make a shank? Percy,
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Speaker 1: Let's just start with that. Well, you know, I think
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Speaker 1: even more import how is she allowed to get out
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Speaker 1: of that jail? You know it doesn't make sense. I
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Speaker 1: was a warden and there's no way ad a scratchel
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Speaker 1: officer would but push that button to let me out
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Speaker 1: with me. Well, I mean she had the in disha
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Speaker 1: of reliability and authority. But first Percy explained, what is
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Speaker 1: a shank. A shank is a homebad knife, and they
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Speaker 1: can be made out of Oh. I've seen the meat
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Speaker 1: out of bedsprings, just about anything, and they're deadly. They're deadly.
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Speaker 1: Oh and I'm going to pose your question a sheriff Singleton.
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Speaker 1: Percy Pitcher is saying, no way would under optimal conditions
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Speaker 1: anyone buzzed them out. But this woman, Vicky White, was
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Speaker 1: in charge of transport. She had the guy triple shackled
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Speaker 1: in the back of the vehicle, which I assume it's
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Speaker 1: an armored vehicle. In other words, at Scotty that the
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Speaker 1: medal between the driver and the passenger around the windows
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Speaker 1: so they can't jump out of a window. Why not
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Speaker 1: let her out with him? Uh? You know as assistant director.
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Speaker 1: Of course she's also their supervisor and h you know.
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Speaker 1: The unfortunate thing about the correction profession is it's it's
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Speaker 1: hard to find people that take that job. It's a
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Speaker 1: very stressful job, a very challenging job, and it's not
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Speaker 1: a job as anyone can do. I hired a correct
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Speaker 1: and deputy. About a month ago. He came into work
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Speaker 1: at six o'clock in the morning, left for lunch, never
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Speaker 1: came back, and I said, he just couldn't handle it.
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Speaker 1: It's a very stressful job. And so we have law
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Speaker 1: of Colonel. A lot of our staff are young and experienced.
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Speaker 1: And also it's not uncommon for us to get a
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Speaker 1: van to court and a judge say, oh, by the way, way,
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Speaker 1: I need this inmate. And that's primarily what Director White
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Speaker 1: would do if that happened. And she would typically take
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Speaker 1: that one inmate in her patrol car because she couldn't
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Speaker 1: get multiple inmates in there and drum the courthouse and
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Speaker 1: turn order and uh. Deputies. Now, in this case where
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Speaker 1: you got a capital murder suspect that was strictly against policy,
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Speaker 1: you know she knew the policy. She's the assistant director.
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Speaker 1: She knew the policies. But you gotta got a renative,
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Speaker 1: young deputy working the booking there and she tells him
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Speaker 1: this is what I'm going to do and he don't question. So,
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Speaker 1: nanty is that you jumping in Percy jump in? No,
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Speaker 1: this is this is Matt Mangino. And you know the
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Speaker 1: thing is this appears to need to be a you know,
21:41
Speaker 1: colossal failure of Lauderdale County. I mean, I don't know.
21:46
Speaker 1: I gotta disagree with you on that, Mangino, because this
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Speaker 1: woman tell me straight back out to you, de Quine Lee.
21:55
Speaker 1: Let me let me let me make one comment, Nanty.
21:57
Speaker 1: I just want you to have these facts before you
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Speaker 1: start blaming county de Quan Lee. Isn't it true? This woman?
22:05
Speaker 1: This woman now we think on the run with an
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Speaker 1: accused killer. Well, there's no doubt he did it, he confessed.
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Speaker 1: She filed for retirement. She started early in this business
22:20
Speaker 1: and she had been employee of the year. I don't
22:24
Speaker 1: mean of the month over at Walmart where they changed
22:27
Speaker 1: the peak. They just like your picture in I'm talking
22:30
Speaker 1: about of the year. That's correction. Like four times in
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Speaker 1: a row. She had medals of commendation. This woman was
22:39
Speaker 1: we thought Pierre is the driven snow. I mean that
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Speaker 1: I've looked into her record. That's the one you would trust.
22:47
Speaker 1: And Sheriff Singleton can confirm this. She was highly thoughted
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Speaker 1: amongst her her co workers. She never never was expected
22:56
Speaker 1: to be a person make criminal out of the blue. No,
23:02
Speaker 1: And another thing Sheriff Singleton said was that there's a
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Speaker 1: high turnover people that are not in the crime business.
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Speaker 1: It's really hard to explain. When you are with the
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Speaker 1: worst of the worst day in day out, you have
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Speaker 1: got to have nerves a steel to stay in it.
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Speaker 1: Let me tell you, I mean even at the end,
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Speaker 1: Sheriff Singleton, there would be times I'd be in court
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Speaker 1: trying I don't know a murderer, a rapist, a shild molester,
23:35
Speaker 1: and I would actually feel sick to my stomach. Even
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Speaker 1: after doing it. I was into thirteen years with the government.
23:44
Speaker 1: I was still just it just can make you sick.
23:47
Speaker 1: No wonder people don't come back to work. You have
23:50
Speaker 1: got to have nerves a steel to do it. Sheriff
23:52
Speaker 1: absolutely and Vicky White with a department almost seventeen years.
23:58
Speaker 1: She had an unblemish record, not a single disciplinary action
24:02
Speaker 1: in her file. She was I've been sheriffs seven years.
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Speaker 1: Four those seven years she was voted by her peers
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Speaker 1: and co workers as a supervisor or employee of the year.
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Speaker 1: In our correcting division. Everyone had the highest regard in
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Speaker 1: respect for the director told me Friday night that it
24:19
Speaker 1: was like a funeral week at the detention center. Her
24:23
Speaker 1: co workers were so upset about what had happened. And
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Speaker 1: you know, people, do you know you just have to
24:30
Speaker 1: have been part of this family, this Sheriff's Office Correcting
24:35
Speaker 1: Division family to understand how devastating this has been to
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Speaker 1: our employees. I mean she was highly respected. I was
24:44
Speaker 1: told the judge it had to sign the pride. When
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Speaker 1: she signed the one, she was well thought of by
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Speaker 1: the judges. Yeah, I mean yes, I hear you, sheriff
24:54
Speaker 1: So okay, man Gino. Matthew Mangino joined me, former district attorney,
24:59
Speaker 1: former parole board member, author of the executioner's toll, Matthew,
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Speaker 1: Now that you know all that, I don't know how
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Speaker 1: you can say it was the county's fault. This was
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Speaker 1: sop st entered operating procedure. What she did know that
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Speaker 1: any reason to doubt her. That's the problem is Nancy
25:17
Speaker 1: standard operating procedure. No one should move out of a facility.
25:22
Speaker 1: I don't care who I asked for without a transport order.
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Speaker 1: The judge design order says, this person's coming over to
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Speaker 1: enter a plea, this person's coming over to be sentenced,
25:31
Speaker 1: this person's coming over for a mental health evaluation. No
25:35
Speaker 1: one should leave a facility. Without a court order and
25:39
Speaker 1: without that policy in place, without that procedure being there,
25:44
Speaker 1: she was able to take this guy out without any
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Speaker 1: real place to go. She could make up a storage
25:50
Speaker 1: which apparently you could call them here. Okay, I disagree
25:56
Speaker 1: with the word. I don't disagree with the word. He says.
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Speaker 1: We did have paul Is in place. She ignored the policies.
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Speaker 1: If a policy could prevent something like this from happening,
26:06
Speaker 1: then we wouldn't have any crime. We got all. Let
26:10
Speaker 1: him finish, Matthew, Let him finish. People make choices. We
26:14
Speaker 1: can't control their mind and their choices. The policies there
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Speaker 1: to give them guidance and direction on how they should
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Speaker 1: do things. That doesn't guarantee they're gonna do it that way.
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Speaker 1: She chose to violate that policy. She knew the policy,
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Speaker 1: and she violated the policy. And there's another thing, Sheriff,
26:31
Speaker 1: there's another thing. And man, Gina, I think you know this.
26:34
Speaker 1: You tried a lot of cases, as have I. When
26:37
Speaker 1: you're in court, I mean every Monday morning, I'd have
26:40
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty new cases to be arraigned every
26:44
Speaker 1: Monday morning, and then every other Monday a trial calendar
26:48
Speaker 1: to start trying cases start striking juries during all that
26:53
Speaker 1: very often, just as Singleton share, Singleton just said that judge, go, well,
26:58
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I'm not going to tell this codefendant
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Speaker 1: plea without that codefendant or the prosecutor might say that,
27:04
Speaker 1: because then you've ruined your trial strategy. So right in
27:08
Speaker 1: the middle of everything, there's three hundred people in the courtroom,
27:12
Speaker 1: everything comes to a screeching halt because you got to
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Speaker 1: go transport another defendant over, or somebody gets left, or
27:18
Speaker 1: somebody needs to come over for an emergency. Here he
27:21
Speaker 1: it's fluid, there's constant back and forth with the jail,
27:26
Speaker 1: and of all people they thought they could trust this
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Speaker 1: woman who now we think is probably hold up in
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Speaker 1: a motel with a killer. He's already killed at least
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Speaker 1: one other woman, her family and shot. Take listen, our cut,
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Speaker 1: thirteen our friends at way. She is definitely in complete shock,
27:45
Speaker 1: saying that everyone who knows her daughter, Vicky says this
27:48
Speaker 1: just doesn't make sense. She's scared for her daughter's safety
27:52
Speaker 1: right now, and says even if she did help inmate
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Speaker 1: wait to escape, she should turn herself in and get
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Speaker 1: back before anyone gets hurt. As a mother, that I
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Speaker 1: didn't know what. I didn't know how to act because
28:07
Speaker 1: I you know, I thought at first it was a mistake,
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Speaker 1: and then when I found out for sure it was,
28:12
Speaker 1: it was just a disbelief, complete shock. That's how Vicky
28:17
Speaker 1: White's mother, Pat Davis describes what's been going through her
28:20
Speaker 1: head ever since her daughter disappeared with accused murderer Casey
28:24
Speaker 1: White Friday morning. I lay in there at that and
28:28
Speaker 1: you can't get it off your mind. And then when
28:30
Speaker 1: you wake up, if you do fall asleep, that's the
28:32
Speaker 1: first thing that you think of. You know, if you've
28:34
Speaker 1: got a kid and she's out there, it's just like,
28:38
Speaker 1: you know, she's in danger. Time Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: Thank to Sheriff Rick Singleton, the elected sheriff and Lauderdale
29:05
Speaker 1: County Sheriff. Did they could you see on video surveillance
29:11
Speaker 1: or any other checking or checkout records at the jail?
29:14
Speaker 1: Did they have a sex relationship? That's something we're definitely
29:18
Speaker 1: looking into, you know, when something like this said, let
29:21
Speaker 1: me say this first, there's a lot of difference between
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Speaker 1: the county, the Kenton Center, and a prison. They're not
29:27
Speaker 1: the same. Half the people in the county jail, including
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Speaker 1: Casey White, are presumed innocent until they're convicted. Even though
29:35
Speaker 1: he's charged with capital murder, he's presumed innocent until he
29:38
Speaker 1: gets his day in court. And that's a big difference
29:40
Speaker 1: in the county jail and prison, state prison, federal prisons
29:45
Speaker 1: or whatever. But you know, that's obviously something we're looking into.
29:49
Speaker 1: And when something like this happens, anyone worked in the
29:52
Speaker 1: jail can tell you that in makes know everything. You know,
29:56
Speaker 1: we start getting in may start telling that theffy's, hey,
29:59
Speaker 1: I need talk to somebody. I know this, you know,
30:01
Speaker 1: I know something. I need to talk to one of
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Speaker 1: the investigators. And of course the motive is, hey, I
30:05
Speaker 1: helped you out. I can you get my sentence refuse?
30:07
Speaker 1: Can you get me put on? Me get put on
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Speaker 1: pro basing for etail? The good I cooperated, you know,
30:12
Speaker 1: as always a self motive when that happened. So you
30:16
Speaker 1: take that with, you know, somewhat with a grain of salt,
30:18
Speaker 1: but you can't get told ignore. So, yes, we've had
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Speaker 1: them inmates tell us that they had a thing going on.
30:23
Speaker 1: We're trying to confirm that is not being confirmed at
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Speaker 1: this time, but we are looking into it. Well, it
30:29
Speaker 1: wouldn't be the first time. Take a listen to our
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Speaker 1: cut eight. Lauren McIntyre's that name Ringabelle McIntyre formed a
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Speaker 1: relationship with Andrew Roberts after she was assigned to be
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Speaker 1: his keyworker. She claimed she started a rapport with the
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Speaker 1: convicted murderer and a bid to uncover intel on what
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Speaker 1: was going on inside the prison, but that spiraled out
30:48
Speaker 1: of control pretty quickly. First, McIntyre did not reveal to
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Speaker 1: her superiors that Roberts had an illegal cell phone. She
30:54
Speaker 1: gave him her number and sent him a photo of herself.
30:57
Speaker 1: The prison guard claimed it was so she could pass
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Speaker 1: a test and show that she could be trusted. Then
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Speaker 1: the pair began regularly exchanging text messages. One message read
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Speaker 1: today was real hot and risky, but I'm so needing you.
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Speaker 1: Another message. I still keep remembering the first time you
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Speaker 1: kissed me. A physical relationship began soon after, and of
31:16
Speaker 1: course we'll never forget the Shaw Shank Samestress, Joyce Mitchell
31:21
Speaker 1: our cut Tian Listen today Joyce telling Mitchell in stripes,
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Speaker 1: shackles and tears, pleading guilty to helping the two murderers escape.
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Speaker 1: She was swept off her feet a bit for a period,
31:33
Speaker 1: and then when she realized who she was dealing with,
31:37
Speaker 1: everything changed. In newly released statements, Mitchell describes a deepening
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Speaker 1: friendship within mate Richard Matt quote he treated me with
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Speaker 1: respect and was nice to me. She says he made
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Speaker 1: me feel special. That relationship turning sexual inmate Matt grabbed
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Speaker 1: me and kissed me. Mitchell also admits sending naked pictures
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Speaker 1: to the other prisoner, David Sweat, telling police Matt told
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Speaker 1: her we were all going to be together. She got
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Speaker 1: in over her head into something that she never should
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Speaker 1: have started, but she did, and she's paying the price.
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Speaker 1: Mitchell admits smuggling hacksall blades, chisels, a punch tool, and
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Speaker 1: a screwdriver to the prisoners, hiding them inside frozen hamburger meat,
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Speaker 1: Matt giving her two pills to drug her husband Lyle
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Speaker 1: on the day of the escape. They referred to Lyle
32:22
Speaker 1: as the glitch. I mean doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst joining
32:27
Speaker 1: us from Beverly Hills at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com,
32:31
Speaker 1: star of a new Netflix hit, Laying Empire. Bethany, I've
32:34
Speaker 1: got so many pages of similar transactions they're coming out
32:37
Speaker 1: of my ears of women and treating me with respect.
32:42
Speaker 1: What they had sex in the closet with all the
32:45
Speaker 1: other inmates in the next room. I mean, I don't
32:48
Speaker 1: get it. What happened? If this woman failed for this killer,
32:52
Speaker 1: what is she thinking? Oh, Nancy? The first case I
32:55
Speaker 1: ever covered on Good Morning America twenty years ago as
32:57
Speaker 1: a woman who was a nurse prison and she actually
33:01
Speaker 1: shot several other guards trying to help an inmate escape,
33:05
Speaker 1: and she claimed to be in love with him. She
33:07
Speaker 1: was a nurse, highly trained. So let's think about Vicky White.
33:10
Speaker 1: One of the things I don't know about her life,
33:12
Speaker 1: if I was doing an assessment is did she have
33:14
Speaker 1: her own romantic life outside of the jail. Did she
33:18
Speaker 1: have a support system out there? It sounds like she
33:21
Speaker 1: was beloved, smart, intelligent, did her job right now. I'm sorry,
33:25
Speaker 1: Bethanie Marshall, but there's just no White. But this support system, well, romance,
33:31
Speaker 1: my rear end, none of that matter. Reason ahead, Well,
33:36
Speaker 1: the reason I ask all of this is people who
33:38
Speaker 1: are super smart, like Vicky White, sometimes they have a
33:42
Speaker 1: veneer of sophistication. They kind of covers up a vulnerability.
33:47
Speaker 1: And she may have had a mental vulnerability that predisposed
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Speaker 1: her to being manipulated by Casey White. And you know,
33:54
Speaker 1: Casey probably drew her in just like a child molester
33:57
Speaker 1: draws in a child, you know, hey, stimulating her to
34:01
Speaker 1: feel special feelings. You're beautiful, You're lovely, nobody appreciates you
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Speaker 1: but me, slowly turning her against everyone around her. We
34:11
Speaker 1: know that women who help inmates escape they're drawn into
34:15
Speaker 1: a very paranoid world. And by paranoid, I mean that
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Speaker 1: the inmate makes her will have made her feel that
34:25
Speaker 1: she is the only one who understands him. I gotta
34:27
Speaker 1: tell you something, dodr Bethany. I think everything you just
34:31
Speaker 1: said is right except one thing. What's that She's not
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Speaker 1: just a woman. She is the law. That's right. When
34:40
Speaker 1: you take on the mantle and you wear a badge,
34:43
Speaker 1: or you carry a badge, or you represent the state,
34:46
Speaker 1: you're not just a person anymore. It's like the president,
34:51
Speaker 1: whether you love him, whether you hate him, whether it's
34:53
Speaker 1: Biden or Trump or whoever is up there that is
34:57
Speaker 1: the president. They symbolize something bigger than themselves, just like
35:02
Speaker 1: she wore a badge, and that makes her not just
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Speaker 1: a person. Yeah, but now if you think about this,
35:08
Speaker 1: Think about surgeons who have commit botched surgeries, therapists who
35:12
Speaker 1: have sex with their patients. There's certain people who are
35:17
Speaker 1: trained in their field, but then they become corrupt and
35:21
Speaker 1: they blur the boundaries and there's something internal where they
35:25
Speaker 1: do not respect their certification or their dignity. Bethanie, maybe
35:30
Speaker 1: they can call you as a defense witness when this
35:32
Speaker 1: woman finally is caught. If she's caught, and if she's alive,
35:37
Speaker 1: let's don't forget this. The murder victim's family to wake
35:44
Speaker 1: up and read the headline of the news and say,
35:46
Speaker 1: not only as Casey White the killer escape, they kill
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Speaker 1: their mother, their mother. He had a female sheriff help him.
35:57
Speaker 1: Listen if you can listen. Seven years ago, Austin Williams
36:01
Speaker 1: lost his mother, Connie Ridgeway, after she was brutally stabbed
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Speaker 1: in her home in Rogersville. My mother, she was just
36:08
Speaker 1: such a nice person. Kind of everybody's frown. This is
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Speaker 1: the last person you expect anything to happen to. Four years.
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Speaker 1: It was a code case until twenty twenty when Casey
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Speaker 1: White confessed to the crime. As White sat in the
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Speaker 1: Lauderdale County jail Williams felt there was justice for his
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Speaker 1: mother and awaited the day he would go on trial.
36:28
Speaker 1: Now that hope is gone after White escaped Friday, warning,
36:33
Speaker 1: it's shocking and it's just like you just wonder how
36:35
Speaker 1: it's possible, because you know, we really wanted it to
36:38
Speaker 1: go to trial just so that we could hear more
36:41
Speaker 1: of the story. Williams has a warning for everyone. That's
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Speaker 1: someone like Casey who's six foot six, two hundred and
36:49
Speaker 1: fifty pounds come into her apartment and stabbed her to death.
36:52
Speaker 1: That's the kind of person this is is the person
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Speaker 1: you need to you need to look out for. That's
36:57
Speaker 1: our friends at w VTM thirteen straight out to WAFF
37:02
Speaker 1: forty eight du Quan Duquan describe the search for this
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Speaker 1: killer and this female sheriff. It's been ongoing for several days.
37:11
Speaker 1: As good as you can imagine, everything is very fluid.
37:14
Speaker 1: As Sheriff Rick Sickleton said, they aggled that they're going
37:17
Speaker 1: for now is just trying to figure out what vehicle
37:20
Speaker 1: these two may have gotten the way in. They say
37:22
Speaker 1: that after they got out of the deputy's car, the
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Speaker 1: strands Ford vehicle just before ten o'clock, those two eventually
37:30
Speaker 1: got away and made their escape through a certain vehicle,
37:33
Speaker 1: And that's what they're trying to figure out right now
37:36
Speaker 1: that I think will be the next key that maybe
37:39
Speaker 1: can turn this missing person situation into something much more.
37:44
Speaker 1: Didn't she take the sheriff's vehicle? Was it a shopping
37:48
Speaker 1: mall or a strip center and park? Yes? It was
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Speaker 1: a suping Okay, do they not have any video surveilance?
37:53
Speaker 1: I think that's what they're trying to figure out. They
37:55
Speaker 1: may have gotten it from one person, but I actually
37:58
Speaker 1: went to the spot myself before went to the courthouse
38:01
Speaker 1: to talk to rick siblings, and it's actually in a
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Speaker 1: spot whether herd to VID the camera, so I can
38:06
Speaker 1: believe that they've had getting any security plea. Well, you
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Speaker 1: know what, that tells me that the whole thing was
38:12
Speaker 1: planned out. You can't just go to a strip center,
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Speaker 1: a shopping mall and happen to park in the one spot.
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Speaker 1: There's not video surveillance. We know that she just filed
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Speaker 1: for a retirement. She's pretty young, but because she's been
38:26
Speaker 1: in the business for so long, she could retire, and
38:29
Speaker 1: she sold her house, so she's got a lot of cash. Um,
38:33
Speaker 1: what else, if anything, do we know about the possibility
38:36
Speaker 1: this was long planned, about it being long planned. I mean,
38:40
Speaker 1: what only signs do we really need? Sells her home,
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Speaker 1: alcial environment. They do have an a restaurant out for
38:46
Speaker 1: Vicky White right now, as do so. I mean, if
38:50
Speaker 1: you look at any other signs, how can you say, hey,
38:55
Speaker 1: this twisted love situation. Of course everything is no thing
39:00
Speaker 1: is said in stone. But with the information we have,
39:02
Speaker 1: how can how can the man point to that side?
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Speaker 1: We wait as justice unfolds, and let's hope we can
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Speaker 1: find Vicky White before this guy kills her. Nancy Grace
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