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- 0:00Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM 640, the Bill Handel Show
- 0:04Speaker 1: on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
- 0:08Speaker 2: There is a program... that is called FIP, P-H-P. And
- 0:17Speaker 2: it is a technology, and the reason it's so important,
- 0:20Speaker 2: that it powers as much as 70% of the world's websites. Now,
- 0:26Speaker 2: let's start with that number. And the PIP or PIP
- 0:32Speaker 2: creators told us yesterday there was a security issue that
- 0:37Speaker 2: hackers can take control of all of the software that
- 0:41Speaker 2: is running the world's programs, or 70%. And this is
- 0:46Speaker 2: a problem. Security research discovered this vulnerability. And, of course,
- 0:51Speaker 2: web administrators around the world rushed to patch this up.
- 0:55Speaker 2: Let's fix it. amid concerns that hackers are going to
- 0:59Speaker 2: then use AI to exploit the very vulnerabilities. So what
- 1:04Speaker 2: happens is AI, as we know, can hack. And it
- 1:06Speaker 2: can hack programs, programs that the creators don't even know,
- 1:11Speaker 2: particularly in AI, because they run models. And all of
- 1:14Speaker 2: a sudden, those models, on their own, without being asked,
- 1:16Speaker 2: start hacking. And so now you have these web creators
- 1:19Speaker 2: that are going, whoops. And we're talking about big ones, too.
- 1:22Speaker 2: I mean, massive creators, OpenAI, Facebook, and all of it.
- 1:27Speaker 2: And so they have to try to fix it. So
- 1:30Speaker 2: they use AI to patch it up. But then the
- 1:33Speaker 2: hackers use AI to deal with the patches. Because what
- 1:38Speaker 2: do those patches show? It shows where the vulnerabilities are.
- 1:41Speaker 2: And every program out there has vulnerabilities. There's no such
- 1:45Speaker 2: thing as 100% of anything. And when you're talking about
- 1:47Speaker 2: a little tiny crack, a little, little tiny crack, What
- 1:50Speaker 2: a hacker can do is open that crack up with
- 1:52Speaker 2: a crowbar and it blows wide open. And so AI
- 1:56Speaker 2: exposes the vulnerability. See, we found it. We found that
- 1:59Speaker 2: little way in. So then the company that creates that
- 2:04Speaker 2: program fixes it. And the hackers use that fix to
- 2:08Speaker 2: figure out how to unfix the fix. And they're scared
- 2:12Speaker 2: that it's running out of control. Because security researchers are
- 2:17Speaker 2: looking at this and they're going, this is a huge problem.
- 2:23Speaker 2: Because cutting edge AI is much quicker at finding vulnerabilities
- 2:29Speaker 2: than fixing vulnerabilities. And that is the problem because the
- 2:33Speaker 2: bad guys are always ahead of the good guys. Always.
- 2:36Speaker 2: Look at any security system out there.
- 2:38Speaker 1: It's reactive.
- 2:44Speaker 2: Because it reacts to whatever threats may come down the pike.
- 2:49Speaker 2: And how does it learn? How do we know how
- 2:52Speaker 2: to get a better system or create better systems? Well,
- 2:55Speaker 2: we look at what has failed and we come up
- 2:58Speaker 2: with better technology or we come up with better processes
- 3:01Speaker 2: or procedures. And when you're talking about AI, this stuff
- 3:06Speaker 2: is so lightning fast that no human can even approach
- 3:10Speaker 2: the speeds. So normally what would take a hacker, let's
- 3:13Speaker 2: say weeks to figure this out. It can be done.
- 3:15Speaker 2: I mean, if you have enough time, if you have
- 3:17Speaker 2: enough manpower, you can pretty well crack anything unless it
- 3:21Speaker 2: is so complex it would take thousands and thousands of
- 3:24Speaker 2: hours and hundreds and hundreds of people. So by the
- 3:27Speaker 2: very nature of the size of this stuff, it's hard
- 3:29Speaker 2: to hack. unless you get an AI program that can
- 3:32Speaker 2: worm its way in. And then all of a sudden,
- 3:34Speaker 2: a person with a few hours can do some real,
- 3:40Speaker 2: real damage. So the researcher uncovered the flaws, a guy
- 3:44Speaker 2: named Ryan Austin, with the help from GPT. their program.
- 3:51Speaker 2: And this is one of OpenAI's most advanced models. It
- 3:54Speaker 2: was during an audit of PHP source code in August.
- 3:58Speaker 2: And OpenAI funded that because what OpenAI and these other
- 4:01Speaker 2: platforms do is they hire these people. You know, the
- 4:04Speaker 2: best security people are hackers themselves. That's who you get. Like,
- 4:09Speaker 2: for example, I just came back from Africa. And as
- 4:12Speaker 2: Amy has been to Africa, the anti-poaching teams that are
- 4:16Speaker 2: out there protecting animals from poaching, the best ones are
- 4:20Speaker 2: former poachers. That's who are on these teams. And they
- 4:24Speaker 2: do better by being paid to keep the animals alive
- 4:28Speaker 2: and healthy than they ever were poaching. Also, it's tough
- 4:32Speaker 2: because poachers are shot on site and that gets a
- 4:35Speaker 2: little problematic down there. But the point is the best
- 4:39Speaker 2: security people are former hackers. Who was the guy he interviewed?
- 4:44Speaker 2: Was it David Melnick? Was that his name? Who was
- 4:46Speaker 2: that hacker years ago who was one of the original,
- 4:51Speaker 2: original hackers and he went to prison? And I think
- 4:54Speaker 2: that's his name. And I may have that wrong, if
- 4:57Speaker 2: memory serves, because we're talking about a whole bunch of
- 4:59Speaker 2: years ago, just when I started doing the morning show.
- 5:01Speaker 2: So it goes back a long time. You mean Kevin?
- 5:04Speaker 2: Kevin Mitnick? Mitnick. That's it. Thank you. No, Kevin was
- 5:08Speaker 2: a friend of mine. He actually thanked me in one
- 5:10Speaker 2: or two of his books. Yeah, and he went to prison. Yeah,
- 5:13Speaker 2: and he became a white hat hacker. And he came
- 5:15Speaker 2: back and the FBI hired him. And he became one
- 5:19Speaker 2: of the FBI's premier anti-hack people. And this is when
- 5:22Speaker 2: hacking was just starting.
- 5:23Speaker 3: His story's crazy if you ever read about it and
- 5:27Speaker 3: how he played the FBI and everything.
- 5:29Speaker 2: The guy's a genius. But the point is, why was
- 5:32Speaker 2: he so good at helping the FBI? Why did they
- 5:35Speaker 2: pay him the money? Why were they so anxious to
- 5:38Speaker 2: get him on their side? Because he was one of
- 5:39Speaker 2: the premier hackers. You know what's crazy?
- 5:42Speaker 3: I helped him move into his place when he first
- 5:44Speaker 3: got out of prison.
- 5:46Speaker 2: And it was in Oxnard, I think.
- 5:50Speaker 3: They had to pull out, the apartment building had to
- 5:53Speaker 3: pull out anything that was wired. No phone access, no
- 5:58Speaker 3: internet access, nothing. All those wires had to be pulled
- 6:01Speaker 3: out of his house. He couldn't have access to anything
- 6:04Speaker 3: when he first got out of prison.
- 6:07Speaker 2: It's a hell of a story. Yeah, it's insane. It's
- 6:09Speaker 2: a hell of a story. Okay, we're done. Thank you
- 6:12Speaker 2: for just putting the cherry on top of that story, Neil.
- 6:16Speaker 2: I'm here for you, buddy. Yeah, well, it worked this
- 6:18Speaker 2: time around. Okay, a new strategy to curb prostitution in
- 6:22Speaker 2: Pomona is sort of an, well, is it fairly new?
- 6:25Speaker 2: It's technology. That's it, because we're using technology for everything.
- 6:29Speaker 2: So we'll be back with that story, and that's kind
- 6:31Speaker 2: of fun. So do not leave us.
- 6:34Speaker 4: You're listening to Bill Handel on demand from KFI AM 640.
- 6:39Speaker 2: 12 days to go before the midterms and starting on Monday.
- 6:45Speaker 2: I'm going to go through some of the propositions and
- 6:47Speaker 2: dive into them. And we're going to try to figure out.
- 6:51Speaker 2: Who is lying? Everybody. Who is telling the truth? Nobody.
- 6:56Speaker 2: What the propositions mean? Well, you can't actually read them
- 7:00Speaker 2: or listen to any of the ads. So that gets
- 7:03Speaker 2: a little problematic, isn't it, to find out what you're
- 7:04Speaker 2: really voting for. So I'm going to dive into them
- 7:07Speaker 2: a little bit deeper and we'll probably do one a
- 7:08Speaker 2: day right up until the midterm election. That's my voting guide,
- 7:12Speaker 2: which you cannot pay attention to. That's a given. Okay, now,
- 7:16Speaker 2: a story I want to share with you about Pomona.
- 7:18Speaker 2: There is an area in Pomona, Holt Avenue, that for decades, well,
- 7:25Speaker 2: let's just say sex workers are no longer, by the way,
- 7:29Speaker 2: hookers don't exist anymore. You know that, don't you? There's
- 7:32Speaker 2: no such thing as hookers or whores or any of that.
- 7:35Speaker 2: It's sex workers, which I find fascinating, which I guess,
- 7:38Speaker 2: I mean, makes sense because they are sex workers. I mean, they're, what,
- 7:43Speaker 2: in Netherlands, they unionized? Entrepreneurs? Yeah, single business entrepreneurs, yes.
- 7:51Speaker 2: Small businesses, and I'm not going to dive into that
- 7:54Speaker 2: one at all. Okay, so that area is a stretch
- 7:58Speaker 2: known as The Blade. And the police, who obviously patrol
- 8:03Speaker 2: up and down The Blade. And how do we know
- 8:05Speaker 2: that Holt Avenue is, in fact, a center of prostitution? Well,
- 8:10Speaker 2: because if you look at the young ladies who are
- 8:14Speaker 2: dressed in short shorts and they have or mini skirts
- 8:18Speaker 2: and have the fishnet stockings with the holes in them
- 8:21Speaker 2: and the crop tops. Oh, let's not forget the the
- 8:24Speaker 2: signs above their heads that the signs that tell you
- 8:28Speaker 2: what the prices are. so you know exactly what you're getting.
- 8:31Speaker 2: That's a good sign, too, that you're probably at the
- 8:34Speaker 2: right place. In any case, the police are very interested
- 8:37Speaker 2: in stopping it. And one of the reasons is not
- 8:40Speaker 2: only the morality part of them, which I've never had
- 8:42Speaker 2: a problem at all with the morality of hookers. It's
- 8:45Speaker 2: none of my business. And if a woman wants to
- 8:47Speaker 2: do that with her body, it's her choice. The problem
- 8:50Speaker 2: is that so many of these are runaways and they've
- 8:53Speaker 2: been abused and they're being sexually exploited. And we're talking big,
- 8:58Speaker 2: big numbers. To the point where it's a generalization. Oh,
- 9:02Speaker 2: you've been exploited. You are a victim. Well, there's a
- 9:04Speaker 2: very good chance that's the case. There's no question about it.
- 9:07Speaker 2: And so these Johns, which I found interesting that they're
- 9:11Speaker 2: all named John. Maybe because when they're arrested, they're all
- 9:13Speaker 2: John Smith. I don't know where that word came from. John.
- 9:16Speaker 2: So there come the Freds and the Georges, you know, and,
- 9:19Speaker 2: you know, the Ricardos. And they are, at some point,
- 9:24Speaker 2: they weren't taking very seriously their crime. The crime was
- 9:27Speaker 2: always that of the hooker. And police recently, decades have
- 9:32Speaker 2: figured out, you know, there's two people here that are
- 9:34Speaker 2: engaging in illegal activity, both the hooker and the john.
- 9:41Speaker 2: So what the police are trying to do and what
- 9:43Speaker 2: they are doing is not so much going after them,
- 9:46Speaker 2: but trying to stop it, preemptively stop it. So along
- 9:51Speaker 2: Holt Avenue, they now have flock cameras and they have drones.
- 9:55Speaker 2: And there is basically a hooker center, hooker central. And
- 9:59Speaker 2: it's almost like... a war room with the large screens.
- 10:03Speaker 2: A war room? Yes, there's a, that's very funny. There
- 10:09Speaker 2: are analysts who are looking at this. Cameras all over.
- 10:12Speaker 2: In real time, they can switch the cameras. There's a
- 10:14Speaker 2: drone operator. There's a dispatcher. And they're making it very,
- 10:19Speaker 2: very obvious that anybody who goes along that, whether it's
- 10:23Speaker 2: a John or a hooker, man, they're looking for it.
- 10:25Speaker 2: And what they do is they send cease and desist
- 10:27Speaker 2: letters because usually the police, they have to be there
- 10:29Speaker 2: to see it happen, right? You can't say there's a
- 10:31Speaker 2: hooker over there who is just engaged in a sex
- 10:34Speaker 2: act and money is exchanged hands. You can't do that.
- 10:37Speaker 2: No one's going to get arrested for that. The cop
- 10:39Speaker 2: has to be there. Usually money. It's a sting operation
- 10:42Speaker 2: for the most part. Well, now it's all real time.
- 10:45Speaker 2: And the police in Pomona are more interested in stopping
- 10:48Speaker 2: it than they are in arresting people. And so they're
- 10:51Speaker 2: using this technology again, real time drones, all of it.
- 10:55Speaker 2: And of course, flock cameras give their license plate readers access.
- 11:00Speaker 2: So they instantly know by the time a car stops,
- 11:03Speaker 2: it goes past the intersection at Holt or on Holt.
- 11:06Speaker 2: The flock camera has read the license plate. The police
- 11:10Speaker 2: center knows who's driving that car or who the registered
- 11:14Speaker 2: owner of that car is. And they can say and
- 11:18Speaker 2: figure out writing to them or dealing with later on saying, hey,
- 11:21Speaker 2: this is not a good thing. Now, obviously, if someone's
- 11:24Speaker 2: just passing through, it's not the biggest deal, but it's
- 11:26Speaker 2: a neat way. It's a neat way to curtail that. uh,
- 11:30Speaker 2: hopefully save a few women, young girls in many cases
- 11:34Speaker 2: from this exploitation. And so who's against it? Civil libertarians,
- 11:38Speaker 2: because it can be abused. Okay. I know you're against
- 11:41Speaker 2: helicopters because they fly overhead and they can look in
- 11:44Speaker 2: your backyard, you know, with cameras while you're sunbathing naked.
- 11:47Speaker 2: And by the way, you look horrible naked. I might
- 11:49Speaker 2: add who would ever want to it's any enforcement of
- 11:54Speaker 2: any kind. That's correct. That is correct. And so the use,
- 11:57Speaker 2: and we had talked about this before, the use of
- 11:59Speaker 2: flaw cameras and other defenses, of course, you know, while
- 12:02Speaker 2: it's happening in real time, the information is immediately erased
- 12:06Speaker 2: or erased after a period of time, cannot be used,
- 12:08Speaker 2: cannot be shared. I mean, one of the things is
- 12:10Speaker 2: one of the fears among, for example, immigration activists is
- 12:14Speaker 2: this information is shared with ICE. And therefore, look at this,
- 12:17Speaker 2: a registered owner and registered owners of cars can be illegal.
- 12:22Speaker 2: And if it shows up on some database, now we
- 12:25Speaker 2: know exactly where this person is. So therefore, that technology
- 12:28Speaker 2: should not be used. But anyways, I thought it was
- 12:30Speaker 2: kind of neat. I really did. And they, you know,
- 12:33Speaker 2: the story doesn't give me the price list. That is
- 12:36Speaker 2: usually right up above storefronts. Okay. Had to make fun
- 12:39Speaker 2: of something, okay? I mean, I had to go there, right?
- 12:41Speaker 2: Hate crimes. That's another fun topic we're going to talk about.
- 12:44Speaker 2: Hate crimes. Are they up? They are up. And I'll
- 12:47Speaker 2: share that information. And this is a stain on all
- 12:50Speaker 2: of us here in the Southland. And it's just another
- 12:55Speaker 2: story of where we're at. And then an even more
- 12:59Speaker 2: worrying situation is our insurance costs. I'm going to share
- 13:03Speaker 2: with you exactly what's happening there.
- 13:06Speaker 4: You're listening to Bill Handel, On Demand from KFI AM640.
- 13:09Speaker 2: 12 days to go before the midterm elections. And we're
- 13:15Speaker 2: going to have a story or two coming this way
- 13:19Speaker 2: in terms of politics. The big one yesterday was what
- 13:23Speaker 2: happened with that ad that Dvava Swamy, Swarmy, I always
- 13:28Speaker 2: get his name right, Vivek, that he aired about his opponent,
- 13:35Speaker 2: actually the mother of his opponent, Amy Alcott for the
- 13:38Speaker 2: governorship of Ohio. in which her mom, who she has
- 13:42Speaker 2: not seen for 50 years, her mom lost custody of
- 13:47Speaker 2: her as a 12-year-old because her husband was with a stepfather,
- 13:53Speaker 2: was accused of raping and molesting Amy until the age
- 13:57Speaker 2: of 12, and her mom lost custody. None of that
- 14:00Speaker 2: came out in the ad. All you saw was her
- 14:02Speaker 2: mom who really is a piece of work, saying Amy
- 14:07Speaker 2: is a liar and don't vote for her. Okay, there
- 14:10Speaker 2: we go. My phone. In any case. Yeah, I know.
- 14:14Speaker 2: I should turn it off. In any case, that ad
- 14:17Speaker 2: ran and it's going to keep running. And it's a
- 14:19Speaker 2: huge controversy. That's just one of them. And J.D. Vance
- 14:23Speaker 2: outdid himself. Also saying, I have no problem with the ad.
- 14:26Speaker 2: It's the Republicans who have a problem with the ad
- 14:27Speaker 2: that are really at fault here. So that's just one
- 14:30Speaker 2: of the stories that are coming down the pike that
- 14:32Speaker 2: we're going to be talking about. So now let me
- 14:35Speaker 2: talk a little bit about police. and was happening in
- 14:39Speaker 2: Los Angeles. L.A. has reported more hate crimes in the
- 14:44Speaker 2: first seven months of 2026 than has happened last year
- 14:49Speaker 2: or the year before that, and hate crimes are climbing.
- 14:52Speaker 2: And you wonder why? Look at the polarization that's happening.
- 14:56Speaker 2: Why is antisemitism on the rise? Well, do you think
- 15:00Speaker 2: a lot of it has to do with what's happening
- 15:02Speaker 2: in Israel and the war in Gaza, where Israel was
- 15:06Speaker 2: considered the good guy in the Mideast across the board,
- 15:09Speaker 2: even though... Uh, you have the West bank, which is
- 15:13Speaker 2: occupied by Israel and effectively it's controlled and it is
- 15:17Speaker 2: controlled by Israel. Although Israel will not annex it and
- 15:20Speaker 2: call it part of Israel. I mean, there's a movement there, but, uh,
- 15:23Speaker 2: the way the Palestinians are being treated 80, 80% of
- 15:26Speaker 2: Gaza has been destroyed. And the only way people are eating,
- 15:29Speaker 2: there's no economy. The only way people are eating is
- 15:31Speaker 2: humanitarian aid coming in from governments and, uh, From foundations
- 15:36Speaker 2: and private organizations, NGO, non-governmental organizations. And Israel stopped a
- 15:41Speaker 2: lot of that aid from coming in. It's better now.
- 15:43Speaker 2: But it is watching people. Food insecurity is something that's
- 15:48Speaker 2: happening all through there. It was starvation at one point.
- 15:51Speaker 2: Famine was going to hit. So a lot of anti-Semitism.
- 15:55Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, to the political side of
- 15:58Speaker 2: anti-Semitism and Jewish votes, Jews traditionally go Democratic, if you
- 16:04Speaker 2: look at it, if you've always looked at it. You
- 16:06Speaker 2: look at the civil rights movement and you watched these
- 16:10Speaker 2: marches and you would see white people in the marches
- 16:14Speaker 2: with African-Americans. Good chance those were Jews. Jews were at
- 16:18Speaker 2: the forefront in terms of the white folks in the
- 16:20Speaker 2: civil rights era. Tried and true blue Democrats. That's changed
- 16:26Speaker 2: quite a bit. The Jews are now, in many cases,
- 16:29Speaker 2: moving over to the Republican side.
- 16:31Speaker 1: Why?
- 16:31Speaker 2: Because of Israel. Because you have these progressives that have
- 16:34Speaker 2: come out Straight out against Israel. And, well, you know,
- 16:38Speaker 2: Jews like Israel. That's all there is to it. And
- 16:40Speaker 2: tend to look at what's happening over there with a
- 16:43Speaker 2: blind eye. So you certainly have anti-Semitism. Anti-Islam? Well, look
- 16:48Speaker 2: what's happening with Al-Sayed. And he's accused of straight out
- 16:53Speaker 2: being a terrorist, a jihadist by President Trump.
- 16:57Speaker 1: Why?
- 16:57Speaker 2: Because he is a Muslim. Now, is he a super left-wing? Yeah,
- 17:00Speaker 2: he is. Is he pro-Palestinian? Yeah, he is. Is he anti-Israel? Yes,
- 17:05Speaker 2: he is. Is he a terrorist? Is he a jihadist? No,
- 17:08Speaker 2: he's not. But it doesn't matter. The words are thrown about.
- 17:11Speaker 2: And have you also noticed the word communist is being
- 17:14Speaker 2: used again for some reason? Communism is back. If you're
- 17:17Speaker 2: a socialist, you are a communist. Does anybody know the difference?
- 17:20Speaker 2: Do these people that are saying that even know the
- 17:22Speaker 2: difference between communism and socialism? Do they have any idea?
- 17:25Speaker 2: because there is a chasm between the two. And so
- 17:29Speaker 2: all these words are being thrown about, and we've got racial,
- 17:34Speaker 2: ethnic hatred abounding. And it's a shame, it really is,
- 17:38Speaker 2: that we've reached that point where I wonder if it's
- 17:40Speaker 2: going to turn around, if there's a new administration coming in,
- 17:43Speaker 2: which I think is going to happen after Trump's term
- 17:48Speaker 2: is over. Not this term, and his term won't be
- 17:51Speaker 2: over next term. But I think by 2036, we may
- 17:58Speaker 2: have a new administration in and it may change. What
- 18:02Speaker 2: do you think, guys?
- 18:03Speaker 1: All right.
- 18:03Speaker 2: Coming up, we're going to finish it up with health
- 18:07Speaker 2: care costs. And we all know how expensive they are.
- 18:10Speaker 2: But I just want to put this in perspective. and
- 18:13Speaker 2: tell you the reality. Are you as bad off as
- 18:18Speaker 2: you think you are in terms of healthcare costs? Well,
- 18:22Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you the truth when we come back. Yeah, yeah,
- 18:25Speaker 2: it's that bad. But I'll share some numbers with you
- 18:29Speaker 2: to finish up the show.
- 18:31Speaker 4: You're listening to Bill Handel, On Demand from KFI AM640.
- 18:38Speaker 2: Next week, I start the voter's guide where I go
- 18:41Speaker 2: through the propositions, which are impossible to understand. And if
- 18:45Speaker 2: you pay attention to the ads, they lie. And if
- 18:49Speaker 2: you pay attention to the titles, also a lie. And
- 18:52Speaker 2: if you pay attention to the description of those who
- 18:56Speaker 2: are advocating the propositions, also liars. And then you have
- 19:01Speaker 2: the legislative analysts that try to put all this together,
- 19:04Speaker 2: and you really can't believe them either. So what do
- 19:06Speaker 2: you do? I'll tell you what you do to understand.
- 19:08Speaker 2: Really a good understanding is you take every proposition and
- 19:11Speaker 2: you flip a coin, and you'll be doing as well
- 19:13Speaker 2: as anybody else. You might as well, or throw a dart.
- 19:16Speaker 2: That explains it. Okay, and then, of course, the election.
- 19:19Speaker 2: We're 12 days out of the midterms. And as we're
- 19:23Speaker 2: moving ahead, Republicans, actually, President Trump, his approval rating is
- 19:28Speaker 2: falling by the day. And so this does not bode well, obviously,
- 19:33Speaker 2: for Republicans. OK, now moving over to health care. And
- 19:38Speaker 2: we've always talked about how difficult it is. The United
- 19:41Speaker 2: States is a horrible place to be sick. It is
- 19:45Speaker 2: a god awful place. We do not have universal health
- 19:49Speaker 2: care facilities. And we are one of, I think, two
- 19:51Speaker 2: countries in the first world countries that do not have
- 19:54Speaker 2: universal health care. For the rest of the world, universal
- 19:57Speaker 2: health care is a right. It's just part of living.
- 20:01Speaker 2: That's it. Well, we don't. And we haven't. And why
- 20:04Speaker 2: is that? Because of the fear of socialism. because we
- 20:08Speaker 2: don't want the government involved at all in our healthcare.
- 20:12Speaker 2: We want our own private healthcare. And for those of
- 20:15Speaker 2: you who feel that way and are 65 or over,
- 20:18Speaker 2: what do you think Medicare is? It is the government
- 20:21Speaker 2: paying for your healthcare other than pharmaceuticals, but that was
- 20:25Speaker 2: a whole, when Medicare was created, big pharma was able
- 20:29Speaker 2: to exempt itself. So how many people, and I know
- 20:32Speaker 2: plenty of conservatives who don't like all our healthcare system
- 20:38Speaker 2: and don't like the idea of a governmental system coming in.
- 20:42Speaker 2: Do not like it. They hate socialism. Have you ever
- 20:45Speaker 2: met anybody that turns down Medicare that says, no, thank you.
- 20:48Speaker 2: I'll pay for this on my own. I don't want
- 20:50Speaker 2: Medicare to pay for any of this. Really? I've never
- 20:54Speaker 2: met anybody.
- 20:55Speaker 1: Have you? Okay.
- 20:56Speaker 2: There's the argument there. Uh, and I've been made that
- 20:58Speaker 2: argument many times before, but I want to get into, uh,
- 21:02Speaker 2: some analysis, in this case, the Wall Street Journal. And
- 21:06Speaker 2: they are, the Wall Street Journal, what they did is
- 21:09Speaker 2: quote a Kaiser Foundation study, a survey, that shows the
- 21:12Speaker 2: average cost of a family plan rose 5% this year.
- 21:18Speaker 2: All right, inflation is 3% or 4%. So it's not
- 21:20Speaker 2: quite keeping up. It's It's basically going past inflation by
- 21:29Speaker 2: a small amount. But I'll tell you the part that
- 21:31Speaker 2: is really scary. Workers' contributions to their healthcare plan went
- 21:37Speaker 2: up 9%, three times the rate of inflation. That's the workers'
- 21:43Speaker 2: contribution to healthcare plans from, well, basically from unions, which
- 21:48Speaker 2: we have with AFTRA. Or if you're working for a
- 21:51Speaker 2: major corporation, you'll have healthcare usually added. I don't I
- 21:57Speaker 2: don't I heart. Does it provide health care? I don't
- 22:01Speaker 2: know the answer to that because I use it. Yeah,
- 22:03Speaker 2: there's a partnership. We're enrolling right now, as a matter
- 22:07Speaker 2: of fact.
- 22:07Speaker 3: So you pay we pay something and they pay something.
- 22:10Speaker 2: OK, the point is, and I don't use that because
- 22:12Speaker 2: I have not as good as it used to be. No. Right.
- 22:14Speaker 2: And that's and that's the point. is that the partnership
- 22:18Speaker 2: across the board is more expensive, the deductibles are higher,
- 22:23Speaker 2: and it costs more. And the scary part, and I
- 22:26Speaker 2: thought I was in trouble. Right now, data by the
- 22:31Speaker 2: Kaiser Foundation shows that the average cost of a family
- 22:35Speaker 2: health care plan crossed $ 28, 000 a year for a family plan. Now,
- 22:37Speaker 2: I have Kaiser. And when there were four of us
- 22:47Speaker 2: on the plan, when my kids were under 26, at
- 22:51Speaker 2: that time, it was $ 36, 000 a year for my health
- 22:57Speaker 2: care plan for my family. Today, I think I figure
- 22:59Speaker 2: it would be over $ 40, 000 a year. Can you imagine
- 23:02Speaker 2: paying $ 40, 000 a year after taxes, by the way, for
- 23:06Speaker 2: a full health care plan? Now, if I work for
- 23:09Speaker 2: a major corporation, I would obviously pay a lot less.
- 23:14Speaker 2: But assuming that the corporation, like iHeart, pays, offers a
- 23:18Speaker 2: health care plan, it becomes more and more expensive for
- 23:21Speaker 2: the worker, for the employee, every year. The deductibles are
- 23:24Speaker 2: higher and higher. Less is covered. And there's a whole
- 23:27Speaker 2: issue of the GLP-1 drugs. Are they going to be covered? Well,
- 23:30Speaker 2: they are, but now they're not going to be because
- 23:32Speaker 2: it was too expensive. That same problem happened with bariatric surgery,
- 23:38Speaker 2: where it took a long time for healthcare plans to
- 23:41Speaker 2: pay for bariatric surgery. Infertility is another one that healthcare
- 23:47Speaker 2: plans don't pay for. You have to pay for out-of-pocket surgery.
- 23:50Speaker 2: And so the bottom line, the bottom line here is
- 23:54Speaker 2: as we're moving forward with no health care plan in place,
- 23:59Speaker 2: it's going to get far more expensive. Bernie Sanders has
- 24:01Speaker 2: the right idea. Medicare for all. The problem is how
- 24:05Speaker 2: are we going to pay for it? Bernie Sanders has
- 24:07Speaker 2: the right idea. Anybody who has money is going to
- 24:10Speaker 2: pay for it. Let's let the billionaires pay for it. Well,
- 24:14Speaker 2: there isn't enough money for the billionaires to pay for
- 24:17Speaker 2: it unless you're going to tax the billionaires out of
- 24:19Speaker 2: their billionaire status, which, of course, Bernie Sanders is totally
- 24:22Speaker 2: in favor of. Medicare for all?
- 24:24Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 24:25Speaker 2: I mean, it really is socialized medicine is what it is.
- 24:27Speaker 2: I mean, that's who we kidding. You know, it's governmental
- 24:30Speaker 2: single payer government negotiates, which it does, by the way,
- 24:34Speaker 2: in under Medicare. You know, doctors can only charge for
- 24:37Speaker 2: procedures when Medicare allows them to charge. Hospitals can only
- 24:41Speaker 2: charge what. uh medicare says here's what you can charge
- 24:45Speaker 2: for the medicare uh procedure it's already being done but
- 24:49Speaker 2: only for people over 65 so are we moving in
- 24:51Speaker 2: that direction i think we have to we have no
- 24:53Speaker 2: choice all right we're done that's it i'm gonna get
- 24:55Speaker 2: off my high horse and get onto my low horse
- 24:57Speaker 2: and i'll be back again tomorrow uh gary and shannon
- 25:00Speaker 2: are up next uh we start again will and amy
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- 25:06Speaker 2: from six to nine and then mario our new guy
- 25:10Speaker 2: is here And he is dressed in, what did I
- 25:13Speaker 2: always say? Like, what, prostitution red? Did I say that
- 25:17Speaker 2: this morning? No, no, no. It's not just red. Jim Keeney,
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