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Woman Parking Spaces · I Think Less of You Podcast

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  We were at a casino and we were parking in the hotel parking
• 0:20
  lot and it's like a
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  SPEAKER_02: hotel casino in Bratislava.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it was really tight because it used to be a bomb shelter.
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  And I am driving this huge,
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  like the biggest,
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  people ask me what type of BMW it was.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't have a clue.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was whatever the biggest giant SUV is.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_02: Not a clue.
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  SPEAKER_02: And especially because like Euro, they always have different models too.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it was really, it's like those circle things that you wind around.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then you had to drive through this.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well,
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  SPEAKER_02: yeah,
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  but like the most narrow one you could think of because it used
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  to be a bomb shelter.
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  SPEAKER_02: And the opening was literally like the exact size of the car.
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  SPEAKER_02: I had no clearance.
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  SPEAKER_02: But I hit the wall going in before.
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  SPEAKER_00: You oversteered, oversteered a little bit.
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  Even before the entrance,
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  I hit the wall and just completely scratched the front of it.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was so upset.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then I was like, wait, I have full insurance on it.
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  SPEAKER_02: It'll be fine.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: We got,
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  SPEAKER_02: so it was my friend and I,
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  SPEAKER_02: we leave Bratislava and we got,
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  SPEAKER_02: we pulled into Prague and at the Four Seasons in Prague,
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  SPEAKER_02: the valet met us and he was like,
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  SPEAKER_02: oh,
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  SPEAKER_02: what did you do?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And, like, he was so sweet.
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  SPEAKER_02: He tried to buff it out for me, and he was like, it's not.
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  SPEAKER_02: He's like, oh, no, you, like, really.
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  SPEAKER_02: You really ruined this car.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, it's brand new.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's why you always buy the insurance.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, as it turns out, I...
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't have a choice in the matter at this point.
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  There is a note in my file with a certain rental car company
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  and I have to buy the insurance.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have a credit card, but my one credit card comes with the insurance.
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  SPEAKER_02: They do.
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  SPEAKER_02: However,
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  SPEAKER_02: in that situation,
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  it's way worse because you have to pay and then they go to your
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  insurance to get reimbursed.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: But you have to pay up front.
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  Whereas if you do it with direct with the rental company,
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  they just pay right away.
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  They didn't even I had to sign a form like I had to fill out
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  accident forms in Budapest.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was horrifying.
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  I just had to sign the form saying like,
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  yeah,
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  I scratched it and they paid it all.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's fine.
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  My rates like it also isn't tied then to my insurance rates and
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  my credit card.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like I didn't have to deal with any of that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's just easier.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  Does that – do I always do – well,
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  now I have to always have the insurance.
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  SPEAKER_02: But we didn't always do that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Go to a different rental car company.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's fine.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, I could.
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  SPEAKER_02: But also I'm an idiot and I will hit something again because I'm a woman.
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  I was going to say you're not doing your gender and its
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  reputation any favors here.
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  SPEAKER_02: Look, I'm not.
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  When I am in Germany,
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  I'm so happy to park because they have women parking spots.
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  do you know about this no it's amazing so um i'm not gonna say
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  it in german because
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  my german is scheisse um it's like the woman it even says like
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  woman parking spot
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  whatever it is in german and i'll send you the picture but
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  they're always the
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  widest spots that are like the easiest to pull into would not
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  fly in america
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  SPEAKER_00: there'd be
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  SPEAKER_00: People get very angry about that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So they started to in Germany when they put this in.
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  SPEAKER_02: But and the politicians were like, no, no, no.
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  These are also the spots where and this does hold some water
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  because they're wider
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  SPEAKER_02: and they tend to be towards the entrances and near lights and things.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're a lot better lit.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it is for safety as well.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I get that.
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  But I am very happy to abuse my woman parking spot privilege in
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  Germany because I'm like,
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  SPEAKER_02: I can't I cannot get into European parking spots.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're so small.
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  And I always rent SUVs there because we're going like I've
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  never gone to Europe and
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  rented a car and not driven to like four or five different
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  countries because the
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  SPEAKER_02: train is actually kind of expensive.
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  SPEAKER_02: And if you're going in a big group of people, it's easier in a big car.
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  and yeah the much vaunted european train experience is
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  expensive i don't believe i
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  thought it was free everything's free in europe is my
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  understanding some of the
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  trains are inexpensive some of the trains are very expensive
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  some countries are
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  horrible their trains are just the worst germany looking at you
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  um some no like you
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  would think because they're obsessed with efficiency they're
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  obsessed with doing it
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  SPEAKER_02: German trains often aren't on time.
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  SPEAKER_02: Deutsche Bahn is rolling out brand new train cars and they look great.
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  SPEAKER_02: But I've been on some sketchy, sketchy Deutsche Bahn trains.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're not as good as the Italians.
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  SPEAKER_02: Dude, that stuff runs.
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  They're a little gross,
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  some of the Trintaglia trains,
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  but they run really well.
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  the long legacy of Mussolini continues well I mean we're
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  talking about Germany too
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  here so yeah no I like France's trains are great and the first
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  class cars on some
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  of the French trains are really really nice they're not that
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  expensive I yeah it's
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  SPEAKER_02: very country dependent and it's very route dependent
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  SPEAKER_00: As you know, I've only been to England.
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  SPEAKER_00: The English trains were fine.
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  SPEAKER_00: I liked the English trains fine.
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  SPEAKER_00: They were...
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  I found it weird in England and I,
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  cause I've been on the train every time.
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  SPEAKER_02: But were you on a regional or were you on like city?
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  SPEAKER_02: Were you like London general or were you like further?
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  SPEAKER_00: Regional, regional.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was,
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  SPEAKER_00: we were,
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  SPEAKER_00: we were staying in Pangborn,
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  SPEAKER_00: which is a decent way outside of London to the,
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  SPEAKER_00: to the West of London.
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  And then I wanted to go when I was there,
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  I was in England years ago in college and
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  SPEAKER_00: And we had gone to Guilford, which is just the south of London.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I didn't have anything to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I wanted to go to Guilford again to see Guilford.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, but Pendorn is out near reading.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like, it's not...
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  SPEAKER_02: That's still within... It was still a regional trade.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: What I was saying,
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  SPEAKER_00: though,
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  SPEAKER_00: is that in England,
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if this is true all through Europe,
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  SPEAKER_00: I found it fascinating from an American standpoint.
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  SPEAKER_00: You have to go, you have to buy your ticket.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you're not an English citizen, you can get the rail pass.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think you can't get them as an English citizen.
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  You can get it as a tourist that lets you get free train rides
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  during a period.
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  SPEAKER_00: I didn't get that because I wasn't planning on being a train that much.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you go to the machine,
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  SPEAKER_00: you buy your ticket,
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  SPEAKER_00: you buy your ticket,
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  SPEAKER_00: and then you get on the train.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nobody checks the ticket.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, nobody asked me if I had a ticket.
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  SPEAKER_00: There was no mechanism of, like, putting my ticket in.
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  SPEAKER_00: There was nobody saying, can I see your ticket?
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  SPEAKER_00: I just got on the train.
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  SPEAKER_00: I went to the place, and I got off.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, why did I buy this ticket?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's, like, some German trains.
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  SPEAKER_02: Nobody's going to ask me.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's, like, some German trains.
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  SPEAKER_02: French and Italian, they are looking for your ticket.
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  SPEAKER_02: Poland, they're looking for your ticket.
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  SPEAKER_02: It just depends.
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  I was asked for a ticket on one German route when I was going
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  from Munich to Nuremberg.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was asked.
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  But I was also in the first class quiet car,
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  and I don't know,
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  maybe they just did there.
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  SPEAKER_02: Portugal also has great trains.
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  SPEAKER_02: I love Portuguese trains.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're really good.
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  SPEAKER_00: Portugal's tiny.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why would you even need a train?
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  SPEAKER_00: Just walk across the area.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, from Lisbon to Porto.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a little spit on the end of Spain.
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  SPEAKER_02: I didn't want to ride a car to drive to Porto.
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  SPEAKER_02: Just ride a bike.
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  SPEAKER_02: No.
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  SPEAKER_02: The place is like 50 square miles.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's not that close.
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  The great thing about when you take the train into Porto is you
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  get to go over the
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  SPEAKER_02: really beautiful bridge in Porto.
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  Like when you look and there's the port,
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  the bridge is huge and beautiful over it.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's amazing to take the train in to town.
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  SPEAKER_02: But I really liked the Portuguese trains.
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  They were large enough that I could put my rolling suitcase
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  above me in first class,
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  SPEAKER_00: which was great.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: The English regional trains were fine.
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  SPEAKER_00: They were clean.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like I said, I couldn't fathom how they finance it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't believe that the English... Well, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because they're not looking for that.
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  SPEAKER_00: The ticket wasn't even cheap.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't remember how much it was, but it wasn't cheap.
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  But then while I was there,
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  then there was this big...
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  Apparently they do care.
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  SPEAKER_00: They must use cameras, I guess, to see who's getting off the train.
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  SPEAKER_00: When I was there, there was this big news story...
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  There was some businessman who lived outside of London and
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  worked in London who got
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  busted because they tracked his movements on their weird police
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  state cameras.
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  And he owed some insane amount in back train ride costs because
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  he spent years.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was like this big case.
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  SPEAKER_00: But that's going to happen.
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  SPEAKER_00: This wouldn't have happened.
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  This wouldn't be an issue if you had just paid a dude to walk
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  up and down and be like,
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  SPEAKER_00: hey,
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  SPEAKER_00: can I see your ticket guy?
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  SPEAKER_02: You know what train I love?
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  SPEAKER_02: The Heathrow Express.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's like Heathrow to Paddington in 15 or 20 minutes.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's great.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was probably on that when I was there in college.
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  If you fly into the airport and you're getting into the city
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  and you're not taking
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  SPEAKER_02: a car,
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  SPEAKER_02: which takes a million years.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's like, I mean, I've done that and you're stuck in traffic forever.
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  SPEAKER_02: But the Heathrow Express is like...
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  we were there you have to walk like two miles to get to it it
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  is so freaking far
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  but we were there for we were there for my wife's work and they
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  they uh they would
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  not allow you were not allowed to drive in england if you were
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  not from england it
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  was like uh so they paid for a driver to drive you everywhere
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  so we had a driver
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  SPEAKER_00: who was
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  SPEAKER_00: What am I only experienced as having a driver?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well,
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  SPEAKER_02: also,
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  if you were going there and you were going out to the West
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  because you guys were in Bucks.
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  SPEAKER_02: So if you're going out to Bucks, you're already on that side of town.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you would take a driver out.
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  SPEAKER_02: You wouldn't go into London to go back West.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's way easier.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like,
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  SPEAKER_02: when we've gone and stayed in the town that Luke grew up in,
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  SPEAKER_02: we usually go into the city,
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  SPEAKER_02: and then we go back to Heathrow,
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  SPEAKER_02: rent a car at Heathrow,
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  SPEAKER_02: and then go to the town that he grew up in.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because it's out that way.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're just talking England, which is not our intention.
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  SPEAKER_00: But this is reminding me of an interesting story about that trip,
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  SPEAKER_00: which I think you'd find entertaining.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we stayed.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think we were going back.
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  SPEAKER_00: We were going back.
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  We had a hotel that her employer had paid for in,
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  I think it was a Radisson at Heathrow.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was a huge hotel.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was a massive hotel.
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  SPEAKER_00: But whatever.
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  So we go to check in and the person at the desk says,
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  would you like to pay for an upgrade?
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  SPEAKER_00: And my wife said, no, no, no, you know, whatever you have is fine.
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  SPEAKER_00: The person says, are you sure you don't want to pay for an upgrade?
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  SPEAKER_00: No, we have a room.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's fine.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we get so that she, she gives us her keys.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like way in the back of the hotel.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it's on the first floor.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's facing their garbage alley.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it was the cheapest, nastiest roof I've ever stayed in.
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  SPEAKER_00: The Radisson...
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  Which is a shame because Radisons,
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  especially like overseas,
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  are so much better.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like a Radisson blue in Eastern Europe is really good.
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  SPEAKER_00: Only if you're paying for it not on corporate contract rates.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: The lampshades were plastic.
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  They were a clear plastic that had been painted with a
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  lampshade pattern on them.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Everything was bolted down.
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  SPEAKER_00: We were going to steal it.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was insane.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do you think that I would ever stay in a hotel like that?
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure.
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  Had we paid for that upgrade,
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  our room would have...
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  The bed was deeply uncomfortable.
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  SPEAKER_00: That was an unpleasant experience.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, I will say that is a uniquely British trait.
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  Luke and I,
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  when we were on our honeymoon,
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  we stayed at this amazing hotel in Oban.
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  and the whole hotel was absolutely beautiful it was super cheap
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  but like that was
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  one of our splurgy and we were really broke when we got married
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  so that was one of
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  our splurgy hotels we were like oh we're in this nice hotel
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  literally the bed was a
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  box spring yep and we were like how do you sleep like this it
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  was so painful i yeah
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  SPEAKER_02: my irish self needs at least some hay
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  and that was like what who sleeps on a box spring and the hotel
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  hasn't changed we
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  looked at their reviews recently and i think they still have
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  box springs and i was
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  like well i'm never saying there i mean i like box springs but
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  i can not to sleep
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  on that's fine there were springs poking like and i would move
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  slightly i flip like
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  a chicken in the middle of the night my husband was like can
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  you just not move and
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  SPEAKER_02: i it's impossible
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  SPEAKER_00: I can sleep on anything.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can sleep through anything for the most part.
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  SPEAKER_00: A couple years ago, we had a...
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  SPEAKER_00: hail storm that came through where I lived.
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  SPEAKER_00: This massive hail storm.
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  It was like three quarters of the way through the hail storm
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  before I even woke up.
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  SPEAKER_00: I described it as the Battle of Verdun was happening outside.
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  SPEAKER_00: The house was being pummeled by hail.
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  I slept through most of it because I could sleep through
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  basically anything.
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  SPEAKER_00: My superpower is just an ability when I decide I want to go to sleep,
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  SPEAKER_00: I fall asleep and then I generally wake up at a consistent time.
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  SPEAKER_02: Luke used to be like, I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_02: I feel like because I have a lot of stupid health stuff going on.
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  I feel like he doesn't sleep as well lately because I don't
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  sleep as well.
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  SPEAKER_02: And he's I'm like, you're asleep.
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  SPEAKER_02: You don't have to be attentive to me.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's very sweet.
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  SPEAKER_02: But like you need to sleep, too.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I don't know.
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  My wife will try to have conversations with me either while
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  we're going to bed or
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  SPEAKER_00: in the middle of the night.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then she'll expect that I will remember these conversations.
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  And I'm like,
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  you need to understand,
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  once I have prepared for bed,
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  I will talk to you.
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  SPEAKER_00: We can hold an entire conversation.
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  SPEAKER_00: I am not going to remember this conversation.
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  This conversation basically did not happen to me because I was
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  mostly asleep.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Luke is pretty good about that,
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  SPEAKER_02: but usually he could sleep through anything,
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  SPEAKER_02: but lately he's having a hard time with it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because I'm rolling nonstop and getting up.
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  SPEAKER_00: Everyone goes to those phases, of course.
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  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: Especially around tax day, right?
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'm looking at our list we put together.
• 16:21
  Our list that we put together yesterday when we were
• 16:24
  interrupted from doing this.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_02: I'm over my tax day pain.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: You have bounced back from having to write those tax checks.
• 16:35
  yeah thankfully i employ people to write those tax checks for
• 16:39
  me but maybe you know
• 16:41
  they're being written oh yes and it was a lot i trigger safe
• 16:45
  harbor which i
• 16:46
  explained to you but i'll explain it again um when your income
• 16:51
  level changes or
• 16:52
  goes up you have to pay 110 percent the next year to make sure
• 16:57
  that you're covering
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_02: your tax liability
• 16:59
  which would be fine except for the fact that my website was
• 17:06
  again hit by a Google
• 17:07
  algorithm change plus the uncertainty in the market right now
• 17:11
  is like tanking ad revenue.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm making a lot less but having to pay taxes on a lot higher salary.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm basically prepaying the government.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_00: But the benefit...
• 17:27
  And optimistically,
• 17:27
  maybe everything will be great and it'll all be in the watch.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: You'll have made so much money this year.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_00: But if not, next year, your liability will be lower because, correct?
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_02: And then it'll go up next year and then I'll have it the next time.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_02: And it's just a roller coaster that I'm kind of over.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_02: Off the seesaw.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_02: It's not the most fun.
• 17:47
  And especially when you work in a really volatile industry like
• 17:50
  online publishing.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_02: I think I'm starting to get sick of the up and downs.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_02: I've been doing this for 15 years, and it's starting to take its toll.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's something to be said for just,
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: being a workforce drudge is maybe drudgery,
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: but at the same time,
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: it's a steady paycheck,
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: and it's consistent.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_00: You know what's happening.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_02: It's not consistent, but yes.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it depends.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_02: It's not the most consistent.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: Depends on the job.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: You know, if you just have a regular office job, you have an employer.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: As long as you're not laid off, you're getting paid.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_02: Unfortunately, that is not my reality.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_02: And I am my boss.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: This is the life you've chosen.
• 18:36
  It's very,
• 18:37
  very stressful worrying about,
• 18:39
  you know,
• 18:40
  I support two families with this company.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_02: And I would like to have trouble handling that.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_02: And not my own family.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_02: It's like two other families.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you have employees.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_02: and that's really hard to be like,
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_02: well,
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_02: if I don't do my job or if I screw something up,
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_02: I'm making it worse for these women.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_02: And that's a lot.
• 19:02
  I understand why middle-aged men have a lot of identity crises
• 19:06
  when it comes to
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_02: work and the responsibility that they have to take on.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_02: It is...
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_02: It's not always the most fun.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's fair.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_00: No,
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_00: that's...
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_02: Which,
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: by the way,
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_02: everyone sees my job and they're like,
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_02: oh my gosh,
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_02: that's so amazing.
• 19:23
  You got to,
• 19:23
  like,
• 19:23
  screw around with food and travel and it's so glamorous.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, yeah, but also...
• 19:28
  You know,
• 19:29
  I'm constantly worrying about can I pay my employees and can I
• 19:32
  keep this going?
• 19:34
  And is today the day I'm going to log in and realize the last
• 19:37
  15 years of my work
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_02: are gone into thin air?
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_02: And there's not really anything you can do about that.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_02: Google just picks winners and losers.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_02: And that is a whole other side rant I could go on.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_02: But it is really unnerving.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_00: Well, for now, because the Facebook is currently in.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: front of a judge over their acquisition of Instagram.
• 20:02
  And I feel like once that's going to be,
• 20:04
  that's going to be wrapped up in not too long.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm pretty sure that Google may Google's probably going to be next.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_02: Well, Google is currently appealing an antitrust ruling.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_02: They are facing additional possible issues.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_00: They want AdSense to be like stripped out into its own thing.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_02: Well, no, I mean, AdSense already kind of is.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: But they own a corporate entity.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_02: That's not what that's not what this suit was.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_02: It was over Chrome and it was over their app stores.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_02: That's similar to what the ad stuff hasn't even come through yet.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: In the late 90s, that was what they did.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: They went after Microsoft for a similar thing with Microsoft Edge.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: But it was Microsoft Explorer?
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was Explorer.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: Because Netflix was... Not Netflix.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_00: Netscape was angry about it.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: But...
• 21:06
  But all of these things,
• 21:09
  that might help my job or it might completely eliminate it.
• 21:13
  And when you look at AI,
• 21:14
  AI coming in,
• 21:16
  people are using ChatGPT to search.
• 21:20
  Well,
• 21:20
  ChatGPT gives you computer-generated results,
• 21:23
  not actually user-made.
• 21:25
  And the only people who are really at a good chance against all
• 21:31
  of this are large
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_02: corporate sites like your favorite that you like to talk about.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_02: Basically just take recipes or content from other creators like me.
• 21:43
  And because they have a lot of corporate money behind them can
• 21:48
  ride a lot of these
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_02: uncertain times.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_02: Whereas someone like me can't.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_02: And it's a really unstable, scary future.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that was your information from real people.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: I, I,
• 22:04
  had a America's Task Kitchen recipe I was actually going to use
• 22:07
  for dinner tonight,
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: but I didn't.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_00: The ground beef I was going to use to make the chili wasn't thawed,
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: so I had to go a different direction.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: Poor Shane.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_00: In America's Task Kitchen's defense.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_02: Can we not?
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_00: I referenced my wife, your unhappiness with them.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_00: She said,
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: well,
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: they don't claim to be like,
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: they pretty much admit that they're doing this.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_02: No, they are.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: They're not saying we're creating the trends.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_00: They're just saying people are talking about this.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_02: But then you have a choice as a consumer.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_02: Do you go to someone who's taking work from other people or not?
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: My wife just walked in.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_00: She says hello.
• 22:54
  Bye!
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_00: I forgot she was coming home before lunch.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's true.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_00: But, you know, they have a television show.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: They're reliable.
• 23:06
  Even if they don't have Chris Kimball there anymore because he
• 23:09
  blew up,
• 23:10
  went up to Milk Street.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: You can cut out the chat about the competition if you want.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: I don't really care.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_02: It's fine.
• 23:20
  I like my rant so that people know to come to my website
• 23:23
  instead because they are helping...
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: Sweet C Designs!
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: Or Sweet C's.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_02: It would be great if you learned the name of it at some point.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_02: It's actually the stupidest website name ever because I'm not sweet.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_02: It is C's for my initials, but...
• 23:42
  though you referenced AI earlier I want to say yesterday I had
• 23:48
  a billion dollar
• 23:49
  idea that really needs to happen don't give it away so someone
• 23:53
  steals it I don't
• 23:54
  own the IP so I can't do anything with it I don't know if you
• 24:00
  saw this I said that
• 24:01
  whoever owns the IP for Ask Jeeves is missing a huge
• 24:06
  opportunity here because they
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_00: need to have Jeeves AI
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: do.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: Every millennial would jump on that.
• 24:14
  If you had Jeeves AI and you had their little Jeeves
• 24:18
  illustration guy and he's
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_00: giving you your answer in a dry British voice,
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: that would be fantastic.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_00: I was really pleased with this idea.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_00: I fondly recall.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_00: I was always an Ask Jeeves guy.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_00: I like to have a word.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: It hasn't been done.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: ChatGPT can just buy the IP.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_00: I'd be okay with that.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: As long as I get Jeeves answering my question, I'm happy.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_00: I don't care who the corporate overlord is.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_00: Great.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: I've never actually used ChatGPT.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_00: I use Grok every once in a while.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_00: ChatGPT seems to want me to make an account,
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_00: and I don't know that I want to make an account with ChatGPT.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I already have a Twitter account, obviously, so I just use Grok.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_02: I actually use ChatGPT a lot.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to make an account with them.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody's using it.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_02: Look, I do actually use it a lot.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_02: It is great.
• 25:18
  I don't use it for things that a human makes better sense for,
• 25:24
  but I do use it a lot.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's a better search function than Google.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_00: Because Google sucked for years.
• 25:33
  Google had it searched down perfectly and they've just been
• 25:36
  slowly making it worse
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_00: for like a decade and a half.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know why?
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: I assume it has something to do with making money.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_02: You have to scroll longer on the page to find results that you want,
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_02: which means more and more ads can be served.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's psychotic.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_00: Just give me... I understand you have to make money.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: I understand that.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: That's...
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_02: But they make money.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_02: Like, okay.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_02: So take my website.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_02: They've pushed my results down the page,
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_02: even though I have like really high ratings or,
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_02: and it's been around for a long time.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_02: It's well known.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's established.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_02: They'll put really crappy content up top.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_02: Hoping that people scroll.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_02: Well, Google still gets a cut of all the ads on my page.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_02: I don't run AdSense.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_02: I'm with a premium network, which I'm with Raptive.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_02: There's like two, there's Mediavine, there's Raptive.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_02: Then there's some like lower tier networks.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_02: But Google still gets a cut of that.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_02: They still have a bunch of Google ads that are surfed through there.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_02: So they're not necessarily helping their bottom line by only doing that.
• 26:41
  They're missing out on all the money from our sites that
• 26:45
  they're taking away.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_02: It's so weird.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_00: You might know the answer to this.
• 26:49
  I don't know if you do,
• 26:50
  but you might know the answer to this because this will only
• 26:52
  make sense.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_00: Is AdSense and the search people, are they different teams?
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_02: They are very different teams.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_00: They do not work in concert with each other.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_00: There's your answer.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_00: They are actively likely competing with each other to some degree.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, 100%.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_00: For those eyes.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_00: Which in some ways, all corporations, I think, do this to some degree.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_00: They have their different departments and different departments...
• 27:14
  internally buy things from each other or sell things to each
• 27:18
  other but corporations
• 27:21
  go nuts for this and sometimes it works and sometimes it
• 27:23
  doesn't in fact you end up
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_00: with what Google is now which is largely useless I think that
• 27:29
  There is a space for someone to actually come in and disrupt
• 27:33
  that market.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if anyone will,
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_00: because all you see are these weird little things that are like,
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_00: the conservative alternative,
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_00: which is if I if I'm sorry,
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_00: if I see as a card carrying establishment friendly squish conservative,
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_00: if I see something that says we're the conservative alternative,
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want anything to do with you.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_02: Did you just call yourself a squish conservative?
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I always call myself.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: I'm an establishment-friendly squish.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_00: I'm an old schooler.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_00: I'm one of the last people who still fondly recalls George W. Bush.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_02: You couldn't hear that, could you?
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_00: What?
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_00: Would you swear at me?
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_02: My phone keeps ringing.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_02: It's all spam.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_02: Like... Mmm.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_02: But I keep getting it in my ear and it keeps ringing and I'm like, stop.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_02: It's nonstop spam calls.
• 28:29
  There's a new fiber optic company has installed fiber lines in
• 28:36
  my neighborhood and
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: they keep calling me to try to sell me fiber optic internet.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, you know, look,
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_00: I don't have a problem with you guys.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_00: I'm really happy.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: When we bought the house, there was only one option for internet.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_00: As soon as they rolled out this new fiber line,
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_00: Spectrum cable suddenly came out with,
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: oh,
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: you know what?
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_00: We actually have gigabyte speeds too.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_00: We've always had gigabyte speeds in your neighborhood.
• 29:02
  We haven't updated anything,
• 29:03
  but now we can offer you gigabyte speeds at this great deal.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_00: So I signed up for that.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_00: So I keep telling you,
• 29:12
  I appreciate your being there because you forced Spectrum to
• 29:14
  actually do something
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_00: and lower my prices,
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_00: but that means I don't need you.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_00: But they keep calling me.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_00: They call me,
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_00: I swear to God,
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_00: like five times a day over the past couple days,
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: and one day I answered.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, I'm aware you guys are here.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm glad you're here.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not signing up with you.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_00: But they keep calling me.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what to do.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just going to block the number, I guess.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_00: Because it's always the same guy.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's always the same number.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure I'm just on his beat.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_02: I get nonstop calls for business lending and I'm like,
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_02: never have I ever applied for business lending.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_02: Like, no, thank you.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not looking for a business loan.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_02: And I also get a lot of calls for,
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_02: they'll call and be like,
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_02: oh,
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_02: are you the owner of Sweet Seas Designs?
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_02: Do you want to be more prominent on Google?
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_02: Which obviously, yes.
• 30:03
  But also it's just the people that are like,
• 30:06
  we'll do your SEO for local results.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, I'm not a store.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_02: Like, thanks, but go away.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you have your ad company who does that.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_02: They do not.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_02: Your search prominence is up to you.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_02: My ad company has tools that I use with it.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_02: Not to like go into a commercial for them.
• 30:29
  Although,
• 30:30
  if anyone has a website,
• 30:32
  I can get you in with some really good people.
• 30:36
  You have to have like,
• 30:38
  I think they start accepting websites at 30 or 50,000 page
• 30:44
  views a month.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_01: That's a lot.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_01: La-di-da.
• 30:53
  Mine is income-based,
• 30:54
  so they have different tiers of service that you get.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_00: Because I assume they get a cut of what you do.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they get 25%.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_02: That's where we can get it.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know, I've told you what my site makes.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not going to blast it to the internet.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_00: You do all right, but you also pay salaries and pay taxes.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_00: I do okay,
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_02: but payroll tax can...
• 31:21
  You are still well within what would be considered a small
• 31:25
  business category.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yes.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 31:30
  I do pretty okay for a small business,
• 31:32
  but I am very much a tiny business.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_02: Like,
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_02: It's very small.
• 31:36
  And that's – I feel like a lot of people when they talk about
• 31:39
  like the wealthy businessmen,
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_00: a lot of the wealthy businessmen people are talking about,
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_00: a lot of their wealth is in fact contained in a business like yours.
• 31:50
  And that always bugs me where people are like,
• 31:52
  oh,
• 31:53
  your company made X amount last year.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_00: You're clearly incredibly loaded.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like, no, that's not how it works.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, that person owns that company.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, that company made X amount of money.
• 32:05
  That does not mean that that person who owns that company got X
• 32:07
  amount of money.
• 32:08
  That just means that that was the raw amount that the company
• 32:13
  made before it paid
• 32:14
  out all the distributions that everyone was paying out and paid
• 32:16
  for all the various
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_00: expenses for keeping the business going.
• 32:19
  It's the same like when you laugh at me when you're like,
• 32:22
  oh,
• 32:22
  well,
• 32:22
  you can just expense it.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, well, I can just expense it.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_02: And that is a great perk of my job.
• 32:26
  But also when I just expense it,
• 32:29
  that's money that I can't pay myself or employees.
• 32:33
  Expensing is one of those things like writing it off where
• 32:36
  people talk about it,
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_00: but nobody really knows what it is.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 32:40
  it also because I travel a lot I mean travel blogger it's kind
• 32:44
  of what I do you can
• 32:46
  only expense like 30% of your travel and the current admin is
• 32:52
  tightening down on
• 32:53
  that not because they're trying to squeeze out more but they're
• 32:56
  like actually
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_02: following I
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_02: We are very, very conservative.
• 33:01
  My team really tries to play by the rules just because it is
• 33:05
  kind of the Wild West.
• 33:06
  And there are a lot of people,
• 33:08
  especially bloggers who do some shady stuff.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_02: And we are not a part of that.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_02: But like I know millionaire bloggers.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_02: I mean,
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_02: their blogs make six to eight million dollars a year who took,
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_02: a couple hundred thousand dollar PPP loans.
• 33:29
  why i i don't know why covid was like the best time for us any
• 33:34
  i know a lot of
• 33:35
  people took money that shouldn't have and i don't know that any
• 33:40
  of them are ever
• 33:40
  going to be looked into i think that's super unfortunate that
• 33:43
  we're not calling
• 33:44
  back stuff like that but um no there's a lot of really shady
• 33:49
  stuff out there i'm on
• 33:51
  the one hand despite being a fairly fairly orthodox
• 33:54
  conservative on many front
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_00: certainly no i'm kidding
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_00: I think I actually,
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_00: in spirit,
• 34:03
  approved the PPP loans simply because the government tells you
• 34:08
  you can't operate
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_00: your business.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's fair for you to be made whole in some way.
• 34:14
  But yeah,
• 34:14
  at the same time,
• 34:15
  it was so massively manipulated and taken advantage of.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_02: PPP was great for retail stores.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_02: It was very much needed for retail stores.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_02: But restaurants weren't PPP.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_02: That was a different plan.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_02: Restaurants were really the ones that needed it the most,
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_02: but they had a completely different plan.
• 34:34
  It's retail stores that relied on foot traffic that I think PPP
• 34:38
  was absolutely appropriate for.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_02: For online recipe blogs...
• 34:44
  no i mean even a travel blog okay great you can't travel
• 34:47
  anymore the government
• 34:48
  took away your livelihood i think that's wholly appropriate if
• 34:52
  you are sharing how
• 34:53
  to cook you know scrambled eggs everybody was cooking everybody
• 34:58
  was everybody was
• 35:00
  baking they were like a sourdough sales went off the chart i
• 35:04
  have a friend who's a
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_02: sourdough blogger who took ppb money and i'm like are you kidding me
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_02: And now they're all complaining when their traffic is down.
• 35:13
  And I'm like,
• 35:14
  well,
• 35:14
  I actually lost traffic during COVID and I didn't take any of
• 35:18
  that money.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 35:19
  That just sends me down a whole bitchy route that I don't need
• 35:22
  to go because it's
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_02: Easter week and I should be good.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's like, what's it?
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_00: Ayn Rand gets dinged a lot because she took...
• 35:33
  because she what are you doing another freaking spam call I'm
• 35:38
  not even getting this
• 35:39
  quickly together Ayn Rand gets dinged a lot because she took
• 35:43
  when she was old like
• 35:44
  I think she went on welfare government she took government
• 35:47
  money in some way but
• 35:49
  that was her you know what she should have taken an editor
• 35:52
  because those books were
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_02: far far too wordy we don't need a like 50 page soliloquy but thanks
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: You don't need it.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you read all the John Galt speech.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_00: Every single word of it.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_02: Of course I did.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_00: I skimmed it.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't need it.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I got it.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_00: I got the gist.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I got the gist, but I still read it because I was supposed to.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_02: And I was, yeah, twice even.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, oh my God, it's so much worse the second time.
• 36:21
  But her argument was that you'll see this argument made a lot
• 36:25
  by people on all
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_00: sides of the political spectrum about many things.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_00: It isn't immoral to take the thing that is offered.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_00: It isn't your responsibility to...
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_00: Even if you're philosophically against the thing,
• 36:39
  it isn't your responsibility to put yourself at a disadvantage
• 36:42
  to others by
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_00: standing on principle and not taking it.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: I don't necessarily agree with that.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_00: That is an argument that is made about things like BPP loan.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of Ayn Rand's ethics that I don't necessarily agree with.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_02: I...
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not knocking her.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_02: Look, I've read all of her works a million times.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying that.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_00: My wife hates her.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_02: My wife despises Ayn Rand.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, Luke does too.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_02: I am kind of neutral.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_02: There's a lot I despise,
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_02: her ethics being one,
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_02: and some of her ideas that I actually really like.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, she needed an editor so bad.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_00: No,
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_00: I was like,
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_00: I remember discussing,
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_00: my mother had encouraged,
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_00: I read Ayn Rand,
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_00: I think I read Atlas Shrugged.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_00: It was the first Ayn Rand book I read because my mother recommended it.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_00: Because she said she liked it a lot when she was a teenager.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_00: Fountainhead is so much better.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's more concise.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I like Atlas.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_02: Atlas Shrug is a better story.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_02: But girl needed to nail that down.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_02: She could have easily cut 400 pages.
• 37:41
  The Fountainhead is better when you don't know it's about Frank
• 37:45
  Lloyd Wright and
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_00: don't know how insane Frank Lloyd Wright was as a person.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_00: That's the problem with the Fountainhead.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_00: Sure, he made some good architecture.
• 37:56
  He also made a lot of not very good architecture that we don't
• 37:58
  really talk about much.
• 38:00
  And he made things like falling water that literally only
• 38:03
  managed to stand up
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_00: because his engineers ignored him and put in shoring.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_00: He specifically told them not to because it would ruin the flow.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_00: And that's why it hasn't fallen over.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway...
• 38:21
  I like that I tried to transition our conversation earlier by
• 38:24
  saying I was trying
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_02: to be good during Easter week and you just blew right back.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_02: We'll get there.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_02: I'm happy to talk about Ayn Rand.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_02: That's fine.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_02: I just want to acknowledge that I am the worst at these transitions.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_02: And part of it is because you just completely ignore me.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_02: That's fine.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_00: But I want it because my mother,
• 38:44
  who recommended I read Atlas Shrugged because she had read it
• 38:47
  when she was young,
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_00: who was a huge...
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even know why she liked it.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_00: She was a massive liberal when she was in high school.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_00: She was a member of the Students for a Democratic Society.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_00: Horseshoe Theory.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_02: Libertarians.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_00: I mean...
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_00: But,
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_00: so,
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_00: and then after I finished it,
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_00: I was talking to her,
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_00: and she was like,
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_00: yeah,
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_00: I really liked Diane Rand when I was younger,
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_00: but then I got older and I realized,
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_00: you notice how none of the characters have,
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_00: her,
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_00: like,
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_00: heroes have kids?
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_02: That's a good point.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_02: Luke's biggest objection is just,
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_02: the complete devoid of spirituality.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's all about uber mensch,
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_00: doing uber mensch things without ever,
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_00: again,
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_00: without having children.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_00: Because a child is by definition a taker.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_00: They have to be.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_00: They're not capable of production.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_00: And to support families.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_00: You can put them to work in the mines.
• 39:46
  But even then,
• 39:46
  there's a period where they're not good for mine work either.
• 39:50
  To support families and children,
• 39:52
  you can't be super libertarian and ideal.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_02: It just doesn't work.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_02: We've thought about maternity leave in the past, but that's one example.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_02: When you are advocating for families and children,
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_02: and frankly,
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_02: a lot of religious issues,
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_02: libertarianism,
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry, I'm allergic to the tree in front of my house.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_02: I like that you laugh every time I cough or sneeze, which is a lot.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_02: Wait,
• 40:26
  I took my daughter to the allergy doctor this week and there's
• 40:31
  these giant cherry
• 40:32
  trees out in front and she has to walk through and she was like
• 40:35
  sneezing and her
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_02: eyes are burning and she's like,
• 40:37
  I find it ironic that your trees out front are blooming and I'm
• 40:41
  allergic to them.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, it's job security.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's reminding you why you're there.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_00: Good job.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_00: You're going to mark it.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know how to on the desktop app.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_02: Everyone gets to hear this.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_00: You referenced unchristianity earlier.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_00: That is a term.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_00: No, I just want to say with that, Easter is coming up.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_00: Speaking of Christianity.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_02: Do we want to save this for another episode?
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_02: No, we got to talk about Easter.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_02: We're right before.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_02: We can do two episodes this week.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_02: That's true.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_02: I say that, but it's not going to happen.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_02: So let's just talk about it now.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_02: Let's just talk about it now.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_00: Easter is coming up.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_00: It is in a couple days.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_00: Are you looking forward to Easter?
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_00: For some people.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's Easter.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_00: Named after the goddess Esther.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_02: It is actually Posca as well this year.
• 41:41
  It is one of the random years every couple years that the
• 41:47
  Orthodox celebrate with
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_02: everyone else because this year we are aligned.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_02: Next year, I will be a week late.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_02: Then I will be two weeks late.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_02: Then I think it goes two weeks late for two years.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_02: And then it's a month late.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_00: This is just needlessly confusing.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_00: Needlessly confusing.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yes,
• 42:09
  but we go by the same calculation that they have and always
• 42:16
  have because Orthodox
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_02: are traditionalists.
• 42:19
  So we also think it's really hard to have Pascha before
• 42:25
  Passover occurs because the
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_02: last supper was Seder dinner for Passover.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_02: we celebrate the resurrection before it's symbolic.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_00: I, I understand.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's symbolic for God's sake.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 42:43
  So my little Protestant heart with all the Catholic stuff that
• 42:46
  it takes super seriously,
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just like,
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_00: it's symbolic.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_00: It would just go nuts in orthodoxy.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_00: I'm taking a whole other step of sanity.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_00: No, we really do.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_00: Just accept the symbolic thing.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's not literally.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_00: Jesus wasn't literally born on Christmas Day, for God's sake.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_02: Actually, that is a great point.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_02: That's why we fix...
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_02: So people say,
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_02: like,
• 43:14
  why did why do Greek Orthodox or Western Orthodox fix the
• 43:19
  calendar date for
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_02: December 25th?
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_02: Well, we know Jesus wasn't born in probably even in December.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_02: We know that we know that that's not a set date.
• 43:30
  So we just set it wherever so we can all celebrate together
• 43:34
  because we don't have
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_02: any calculation for when it is because we can't say and because it wasn't
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_02: traditionally celebrated.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_02: We just nail a date down and call it good.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_02: However, with Posca, we do have a calculation for it.
• 43:48
  We do have the way that it was calculated every other time so
• 43:53
  we can nail the date down.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_02: So that's why they stick to it.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's just symbolic, man.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's not symbolic.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's symbolic.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_02: If you have a way to find it,
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_02: why would you stick to that and not just...
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_02: Because it's just symbolic.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_00: You're getting all caught up in details, dude.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_02: That is literally the point of the Orthodox Church.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_02: That is literally why we do everything we do.
• 44:21
  So much of it is still the how many angels could dance on the
• 44:24
  head of a pin,
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_00: which everyone jokes about,
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_00: but was in fact a very important theological discussion that went on.
• 44:31
  I can't remember why,
• 44:33
  but I'm aware that it actually had important implications.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_00: I mean,
• 44:38
  our obsession with being the traditional church also has a lot
• 44:43
  of implications,
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_02: but that is why we do it.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I think it's silly.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_02: Well, you know, that's why you're not Orthodox.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_02: I would say the same, but I am trying to be nice.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_02: I never try to be nice.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_02: Do you guys do like a lot of services and stuff during the week?
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_02: Because I basically am living at church at this point and
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's... So, my wife... So, again, my wife is Catholic.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not Catholic.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_00: Your wife is a true believer.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_00: Which I appreciate.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_00: There are many things I appreciate about the Catholic Church.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_00: And I think I've told you before.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_00: A sign of my...
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_00: Respect for the Catholic Church,
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_00: the fact that I haven't,
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_00: because it would be easier if I just converted,
• 45:34
  but I actually respect the Catholics and their beliefs enough
• 45:38
  to accept that I'm
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_00: not going to agree with all of their stances.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's a prick's fix.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_00: With the Catholic Church, it's not a choose menu.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_00: You agree with the bill or you don't.
• 45:53
  So I respect them enough that I do not convert because I don't
• 45:57
  agree with everything,
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_00: which makes me definitional.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_00: They're Protestant.
• 46:00
  um but uh so i i go to mass with my wife um but i i don't go i
• 46:06
  don't do the holy
• 46:07
  days of obligation so but apparently good friday isn't actually
• 46:11
  holy day of
• 46:11
  obligation in the roman catholic church which is my wife will
• 46:14
  go off about how
• 46:16
  bizarre it is that it's not tonight is for us because um
• 46:21
  tonight is when we do
• 46:22
  anointing so we have holy unction tonight where you're anointed
• 46:26
  um and with the
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_02: chrism
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_02: It is a sacrament.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_02: So tonight is a big deal.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I don't go to the lamentation service, which is on Thursday.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_02: Those are like four hours long and it's just too much.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um,
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_02: But then basically all of Friday, we will be there.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_02: The Orthodox, we perform a funeral.
• 46:50
  We have like a little wooden Jesus that we descend from the
• 46:53
  cross and put in the tomb.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_00: So you do understand symbolism.
• 46:57
  Literally the entire,
• 47:00
  again,
• 47:01
  our entire church is based on tradition and symbolism.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 47:06
  um we have a tomb that the men carry through the neighborhood
• 47:10
  and we're like
• 47:11
  holding candles through the neighborhood this year the bishop
• 47:14
  will be with our
• 47:14
  church for it i'll send you some videos it's actually really
• 47:17
  fascinating singing
• 47:18
  greek it is a funeral that we march through the neighborhood
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  everyone thinks we are
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  completely insane because we're singing in greeks they're like
• 47:27
  what kind of weird
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_02: voodoo is happening and um it's it's very interesting we
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  hold the um they hold the tomb up in front of the entrance to
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  the church and you
• 47:40
  have to like go down under it because it's to signify like
• 47:44
  jesus going through and
• 47:46
  then descending it's we're very very much into symbolism then
• 47:51
  saturday morning we
• 47:52
  have um a service where you do the it's my favorite service of
• 47:58
  the year when our
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_02: priest throws the bay leaves and
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_02: It's a beautiful service.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_02: Then we have baptisms.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_02: Holy Saturday is a huge day in the Orthodox Church to get baptized.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_02: My husband and I are going to be baptizing four boys,
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  SPEAKER_02: our friends,
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  SPEAKER_02: four boys who are going to be our godsons.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_02: Then my kids have a dress rehearsal for their play,
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  SPEAKER_02: which is not church related,
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_02: but it's going to take up a bunch of time.
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  SPEAKER_02: We will get home at like 830 at night,
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  SPEAKER_02: and then we need to leave at 1130 to be there for our midnight services.
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  SPEAKER_02: So our services start at 1130.
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  SPEAKER_02: We do liturgy.
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  SPEAKER_02: We end.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_02: It's Orthodox liturgy for Pascha.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_02: It's just the most beautiful service of the whole year.
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  SPEAKER_02: We turn off all the lights.
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  SPEAKER_02: We bring forth the fire.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you've seen the holy fire at the sepulchre.
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  in jerusalem every year you see the syrians like with the big
• 49:00
  bundles of candles
• 49:02
  it's the most amazing thing you bring forth the light we
• 49:06
  orthodox gather in
• 49:08
  jerusalem to bring the light forward from the tomb and then if
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  you're in europe
• 49:13
  you're usually get that light we don't but we bring forth light
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  from an oil that
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_02: we've kept going forever in our church and
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  SPEAKER_02: And it spreads throughout the church.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's really beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_02: We sing outside at like two in the morning.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then at the end of the service,
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  SPEAKER_02: because we've been fasting this whole time from meat and dairy,
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  SPEAKER_02: at like three in the morning,
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_02: we have a huge party in our fellowship hall and we eat meat.
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  SPEAKER_02: And
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  hang out like people bring a barco hams bring like bottles of
• 49:44
  wine my georgian
• 49:45
  friend brings his homemade cha-cha and we just you know get
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  loaded at like three in
• 49:51
  the morning and eat a bunch of meat it's great there was a time
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  when eating a bunch
• 49:57
  of stuff and drinking with people at three o'clock in the
• 49:59
  morning was like kind of
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  SPEAKER_00: like great plan to me that time was many years ago
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_00: I have no interest in doing that.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_02: It's actually really fun every year.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_00: It's one of my favorite parts of pasta.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_00: Only things you regret later happen at 3 o'clock in the morning.
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  SPEAKER_02: Not in this context, because we've just celebrated.
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  Although I do have friends whose church,
• 50:22
  you know,
• 50:23
  they get a little unruly with some of those.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_02: But...
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_00: The priests at our church,
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_00: this is a frequent thing,
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_00: I've heard this before,
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_00: he was complaining that people don't come to the Easter Vigil Mass.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_00: because the Eastern Middle Mass is at night.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's late.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, no.
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  SPEAKER_02: We will have 500 people.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm talking about Romans.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_02: Our church holds 300 people.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_02: We had 440 for Palm Sunday.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_00: I am talking about Roman Catholics who are much more convenient.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_02: I used to be Roman Catholic, too, and then I started...
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_00: Our priest said,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_00: this is actually the most important,
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_00: the Easter Vigil is the most important mass of the year.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: People don't, we're not going to that.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're the most beautiful.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_02: They're so, I mean, my kids even like it.
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  SPEAKER_02: And especially my daughter.
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  SPEAKER_02: My daughter is like, it is 930.
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  SPEAKER_02: I want to be asleep.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_02: She's an old granny when it comes to sleep.
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  SPEAKER_02: And she cannot wait for this.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not staying up that late.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_02: We also, we don't do Easter baskets.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_02: We didn't do Easter Bunny with our kids.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_02: But every year, we bring our baskets to the Paschal service.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_02: And we have, like, we'll have pepperoni sticks and cheese.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_02: And my daughter last year had a giant thing of cheese balls.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_02: It was hilarious.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_02: We had it, like, up front.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_02: We had it on the Salaya, like, to be blessed and...
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_02: She had a giant thing of cheese balls.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_02: But we break the fast from all the foods that we haven't eaten forever.
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  SPEAKER_02: At 3 o'clock in the morning.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_02: But we have them in our Easter baskets.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's great.
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_02: It's so much fun.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_02: I can't wait to share videos from this year's.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_02: It'll be fun.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_02: It'll be way too many people, though.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_00: Speaking of...
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  SPEAKER_00: Easter baskets, however, I want to say.
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  So,
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  I am very excited right now because I think I told you about this,
• 52:26
  but I'll say it again.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is a chocolate company outside of Pittsburgh in Cannonsburg,
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_00: PA called Saris Candy that makes fantastic chocolate.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I've never seen them outside the greater Pittsburgh area before.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_00: But this year, I walked into Kroger the other day and they had...
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_00: They had their chocolate melt-away eggs.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_00: I was so excited.
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_00: I sent my wife a picture.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, oh, this is great.
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  SPEAKER_00: My wife loves this.
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  SPEAKER_00: She grew up on Sarah's.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_00: She loves Sarah's.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_00: I got a couple of those for the girls.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_00: They'll be very excited about it.
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  Did you get extra for your wife like your friend told you to do
• 53:04
  because she loved them?
• 53:06
  I'm playing the long game because I bet after Easter they go on
• 53:08
  clearance and then
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_00: I'll get her a couple.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, but what if they clear out and she doesn't get it?
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_02: And you'll be like, dang, I should have bought some for my wife.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_00: My hope is S-A-R-R-I-S, not Sarah's.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_00: I want to make that clear.
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  My hope is,
• 53:24
  though,
• 53:24
  that they sell enough that the next year they bring in their
• 53:26
  jelly beans.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_00: Because Sarah says fantastic jelly beans that they sell.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_00: So hopefully I can get a hold of those here as well.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_02: I'm a Starburst jelly bean evangelist.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_00: Sarah's Jellywind are legit.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_00: One of these days, you and me will go to Pittsburgh.
• 53:41
  SPEAKER_00: I'll show you around Pittsburgh.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_02: I've never been to Pittsburgh.
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  I mean,
• 53:44
  I've driven through Pittsburgh,
• 53:46
  but I've never been to Pittsburgh.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_00: Pittsburgh's a great town.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_00: I actually like Pittsburgh.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_00: I would live in Pittsburgh.
• 53:53
  I've never lived in Pittsburgh,
• 53:55
  but I actually enjoy Pittsburgh quite a lot.
• 53:58
  It's a nice kind of working class aesthetic to it still that I appreciate.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_02: I spend a lot of time in Philly, but... Oh, God.
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_02: I wasn't saying anything positive.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_02: I just said I had been there.
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  That's the wrong side of the state you find yourself on if
• 54:15
  you're in Philly.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_02: No, but I live in Baltimore, so it's so close.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_00: Possibly worse than Philadelphia.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_00: It's a tight race, Baltimore and Philly.
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_02: I weirdly like Baltimore.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_02: Well, parts.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_02: Parts.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_00: Parts in Baltimore or not...
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_00: Down by the river or whatever, where they've cleaned up in Baltimore.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure it was lovely.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_00: The harbor.
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the harbor.
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_00: Where the Orioles Stadium is.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_02: What is the name of the Orioles Stadium?
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_00: I actually should know this.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_02: No, you really should know this.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_02: Because this is history, too.
• 54:49
  SPEAKER_00: I can't remember what the name of it is.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_02: It's Camden.
• 54:52
  SPEAKER_02: Camden Yards.
• 54:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Camden Yards.
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  I think Camden Yards was the first of the new generation of
• 55:01
  stadiums that was built,
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_00: as I recall.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_00: PNC Park in Pittsburgh was, I think, the second.
• 55:05
  It wasn't modeled after Camden Yards,
• 55:09
  but it was inspired by that type of design,
• 55:13
  I believe.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_02: So you got the chocolate.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_02: Do you have everything else for your kids?
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_02: Do you guys do big Easter baskets?
• 55:19
  SPEAKER_00: Not really.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_00: They did a Girl Scout chocolate nut sale thing,
• 55:26
  and I'm pretty sure my in-laws bought some stuff from that for
• 55:34
  us to give to them
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_00: on Easter.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_00: So I assume that'll be in there.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_00: We...
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_00: We didn't do Santa or the Easter Bunny with our kids.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_02: We just didn't either.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_00: We didn't not do it, though.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_00: They would ask us questions.
• 55:51
  They acquired from their classmates and from people they knew
• 55:54
  that there were these
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_00: things called Santa and the Easter Bunny.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_00: And they would discuss them with us.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_00: When they would ask me questions about, is the Easter Bunny coming?
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_00: I'd say, that's what they say.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 56:08
  With anything to do with Santa or the Easter,
• 56:11
  I would never affirm that it was true.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_00: I would always say, that's what I hear.
• 56:16
  We always did it with,
• 56:18
  like we did it with my kids,
• 56:19
  but they knew the entire time.
• 56:21
  So I would fill their stockings and I'd be like,
• 56:23
  ooh,
• 56:23
  what did Santa get you?
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_02: But they were in on it.
• 56:26
  And like they would help put out the cookies,
• 56:28
  but then they would make the bite marks.
• 56:30
  And it was honestly just as fun and just as magical having them
• 56:34
  be in on it.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_02: It was like, I don't know, it was a lot better.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_02: But one of the reasons I did that is because of my Easter Bunny story.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know that I've ever told you this.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_02: I had a horrific Easter one year and I just was scarred forever.
• 56:53
  Like I hated Easter until I became Orthodox because what did
• 56:57
  the Easter bunny do to you?
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_02: Well, okay.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_02: So set the stage.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_02: I live in Southern California.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_02: We were in the Valley at this point.
• 57:05
  SPEAKER_02: We lived in a house that we were at the end of our cul-de-sac and
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_02: And there was like a fence down to a farm.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_02: So we would have coyotes all the time.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_02: Well, one Easter, it was like the day before Easter.
• 57:19
  I open up the front door because we would get these hot air
• 57:23
  balloons all the time
• 57:24
  that looked like they were taking off from down the hill right
• 57:27
  by our house.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_02: So I'd walk out the front door and it was like right there.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_02: And as a little kid, that's really cool.
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm walking out and on our front doorstep was a bunny's head.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_02: Coyote dropped it off.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_02: Coyote dropped it off.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm looking straight at it and I'm like, oh, it's Easter Bunny.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm super traumatized, right?
• 57:51
  And it's like whatever day later that the Easter Bunny is
• 57:56
  supposed to come.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_02: Well,
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_02: the girl down the street,
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_02: and I still know her name,
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_02: but I won't say it so I don't have to bleep it,
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_02: got like a Nintendo and all this great stuff.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_02: For Easter?
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 58:09
  No,
• 58:09
  her parents weren't divorced yet at that stage,
• 58:12
  but it was reading like divorced parents.
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_02: So my mom got these beautiful C's eggs that she my mom's a painter.
• 58:20
  So she like piped out our names on the eggs and like took
• 58:24
  chocolate and painted with them.
• 58:25
  SPEAKER_02: And they were like beautiful hand like decorated eggs.
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, how come she got a Nintendo and blah, blah, blah.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, does the Easter bunny not love me?
• 58:37
  And my mom looks at me and goes,
• 58:40
  because I'm the Easter bunny,
• 58:42
  you little shit.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_02: And I locked myself in the bathroom.
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like bawling, crying all day.
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_02: And then I start to have these revelations.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, what about Santa?
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_02: And she's like, yep.
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, the two things.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_02: It was sad.
• 59:00
  so dramatic i just like i was hysterical locked myself in the
• 59:06
  bathroom all day just
• 59:08
  screaming crying because one i thought the easter bunny was
• 59:11
  murdered and left on
• 59:12
  our front step two days before and then i found out about it
• 59:16
  and it was just awful
• 59:18
  this this may be controversial i'm with your mom on this you
• 59:21
  you deserved that you
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_00: had that coming 100 percent
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_00: Oh!
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_00: She gets these thoughtful gifts.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_00: She thinks you're like, you didn't get a Nintendo?
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
• 59:37
  SPEAKER_00: You 100% needed that.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_00: You needed to be smacked down.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_00: You were uppity.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_02: That is part of why we didn't do them with my kids,
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_02: because I was like,
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_02: you need to know that I'm always the one doing this for you.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_00: My mother never told,
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_00: she specifically told me that there,
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_00: I was that,
• 59:56
  this may not surprise you to hear I was that kid who when I
• 59:59
  encountered other kids
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_00: around Christmas would be like,
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_00: there's no Santa Claus,
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_00: right?
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_02: My kids totally kept it up for their friends and loved it.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_02: And like, honestly, they thought it was so fun being in on it.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm really glad we did it that way.
• 1:00:16
  My mother always swore that she didn't do it because she always
• 1:00:19
  said she knew that
• 1:00:20
  she had some friend who whose son had never forgiven her for
• 1:00:24
  when he found out
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_00: about there was no Santa Claus for lying to him.
• 1:00:28
  I don't know if you just heard the story that I told,
• 1:00:31
  but I still have a little drama from it.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_00: Hashtag team mom.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_00: You had it coming.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_00: That was good.
• 1:00:37
  SPEAKER_02: Lord.
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, how was I to know?
• 1:00:41
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, dude, the Easter bunny spent like a grand on this girl.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_00: Well, also, the Easter Bunny was getting ready to get divorced.
• 1:00:53
  I have also always been self-deprecating because I was like,
• 1:00:57
  what did I do wrong?
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_02: Oh,
• 1:01:03
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think I've ever gotten or given,
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_00: other than chocolate,
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think I've ever gotten or given a gift for Easter.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think of Easter as being a gift-bearing holiday.
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_02: Well, this year I did... Well, actually, I always do for my godkids.
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_02: So yesterday I spent a friggin' fortune on my...
• 1:01:20
  i have i'll have five um but then i have an extra kind of bonus
• 1:01:25
  one we always for
• 1:01:27
  my goddaughter we always bring a basket for her brother so he's
• 1:01:30
  not left out uh
• 1:01:32
  well because you can't give one kid a bunch of stuff and then
• 1:01:35
  the other kid gets
• 1:01:36
  nothing so we always do one for him as well and then the four
• 1:01:39
  boys this year but
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_02: then i also made i went to target and got these um
• 1:01:44
  glitter disco ball eggs they're like giant and they hold three
• 1:01:49
  demi bottle of
• 1:01:50
  prosecco's in it so i did that and a bunch of chocolate for my
• 1:01:55
  prosecco an adult
• 1:01:56
  beverage you're giving this to children no i'm giving it to my
• 1:01:59
  daughter's godmother
• 1:02:00
  SPEAKER_02: and then oh
• 1:02:02
  And then the mom of the four boys that we're going to be the
• 1:02:05
  godparents of,
• 1:02:07
  SPEAKER_02: she grew up Orthodox.
• 1:02:09
  Her husband grew up Catholic like me,
• 1:02:12
  but they're kind of coming back to the church.
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_02: And so he is being chrismated.
• 1:02:16
  SPEAKER_02: She's just like,
• 1:02:17
  I don't think she's being re-chrismated because she was already
• 1:02:20
  baptized Orthodox.
• 1:02:21
  I think she's just like there for their baptisms,
• 1:02:24
  but I'm doing it for her.
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_02: For the adult women, I'm giving glitter disco ball Easter egg Prosecco.
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_00: I mean,
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_00: for the record,
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_00: bear in mind,
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_00: I don't actually...
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't even like giving gifts at Christmas.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not because I don't like giving gifts.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't like clustering gifts at a specific time.
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  If I see something that I think someone would like,
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  for the most part,
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  I will buy it for them.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't like having to hold on to it until some set date.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just want to be like, here...
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm sending you this thing that I got for you that I think you'd like.
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  SPEAKER_00: It annoys me.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't hold on for that date.
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  SPEAKER_02: I just, I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_02: I feel like I'm a very generous gift giver.
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  SPEAKER_02: I give a lot of gifts.
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  SPEAKER_02: My husband is not.
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  I was about to say you've never given me a gift,
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  but you in fact gave me a rather nice camera.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, revise what you were about to say.
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  SPEAKER_00: I backed out of that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, I couldn't even sell that thing for...
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  I'd rather give it to someone to enjoy than get $100 on
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  Facebook Marketplace or something.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have not, in fact, used it yet.
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  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, watch what you say there.
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  SPEAKER_02: I do, actually.
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  SPEAKER_02: I am actually a very generous gift giver.
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  SPEAKER_00: I will see things and be like, this person would like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I should get that for them.
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  And then I ended up shoving it in a closet because I needed
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  something for them.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I hope it's first to give it to them.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I just give stuff.
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  Luke and I were talking the other day about this random obscure
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  record that he grew
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  SPEAKER_02: up listening to.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we have a copy of in our basement somewhere.
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  It's called The Muppets Take Bremen,
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  which not Bremen like Germany,
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  it's Bremen,
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  Louisiana.
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  And he used to sit around with his grandparents all the time
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  and listen to it.
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  SPEAKER_02: And he was like, I really wish I had that.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it wasn't so scratch because I'd love to hear it.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's one that you can't like the recording doesn't exist anywhere.
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  SPEAKER_02: You have to have the record to hear it.
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  So I scoured forever and I found it online and I found a really
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  gently used version
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  SPEAKER_02: from a record shop with great reviews and bought it.
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  SPEAKER_02: It just came the other day.
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  SPEAKER_02: I wasn't going to like hold on to it.
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  SPEAKER_02: I just gave it to him.
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  SPEAKER_02: But then I'll just continue buying more stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: You should digitize it for him.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do you have equipment to digitize it?
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  Look at me and think of the struggles I have just getting the
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  music to play right
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  SPEAKER_02: in the beginning of this and ask yourself if you think I can handle that.
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  It isn't that hard or that expensive to get stuff that you can
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  digitize a record with.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, I think my dad has it, so I'll give it to him.
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  SPEAKER_02: My parents are going to be out here in a week,
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  SPEAKER_02: and I'll just have them take it home,
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  SPEAKER_02: and he can digitize it,
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  SPEAKER_02: and then we'll get it back from him.
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  Yeah,
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  that way you don't have to really give something out because
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  the record is not.
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  SPEAKER_00: It'll forever be available to you.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's such a unique thing.
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  SPEAKER_02: Also, the names and voices are a little not...
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  ones that you could do anymore but you know it was a touch
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  anti-Semitic and a touch
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  racist but yeah it was a different time it was a very different
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  time this was like
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  SPEAKER_02: a very early 70s recording so it is it is different
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  SPEAKER_00: A lot of Jim Henson's really early stuff was pretty,
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  SPEAKER_00: before he went relatively kid safe,
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  SPEAKER_00: was pretty out there.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was out there.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have to tell you after we stop recording about some of it,
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  SPEAKER_02: because it's not one I feel like I'm standing up for.
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  i do not condone the voices or the names in this rare recording
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  but it is kind of
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  cool you know digitize and digitize and upload it to twitter
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  and make the oh my
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  gosh i will i will get in so much trouble for that anyways all
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  right well it's been
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  nice chatting with you yes always is well i think i think we
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  did a good job this
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  SPEAKER_00: was
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  SPEAKER_00: We did a good job here.
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  SPEAKER_00: We should do this more often, but we never do.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think we're going to try this week.
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  SPEAKER_00: We are.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're going to try.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Bye-bye.
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  SPEAKER_02: Bye.