Latest / 25 Whistles with Bobby Bones (A Football Podcast) / 25W: A Twitter Troll Gets Taught a Lesson + WWE Hall of Famer Shawn Michaels Gives Bobby a Big Compliment + How to Fix the Nico Iamaleava NIL/Transfer Portal Nightmare

Transcript

25W: A Twitter Troll Gets Taught a Lesson + WWE Hall of Famer Shawn Michaels Gives Bobby a Big Compliment + How to Fix the Nico Iamaleava NIL/Transfer Portal Nightmare · 25 Whistles with Bobby Bones (A Football Podcast)

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: The NBA eighty two game grind is done. But now
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: the real fun begins. The NBA Playoffs are here. It's
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: time for all the high stakes drama, clutch moments, jaw
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: dropping plays. I cannot wait. And if you're looking to
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: make the playoffs even more exciting, DraftKings Sports Book has
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: you covered. As an official sports betting partner of the NBA.
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: Try placing a bet on your favorite player's performance. Will
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: they drop thirty points, forty points more? It's your call.
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: Here's something special for first timers. New Draft Kings customers.
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: Bet five dollars and get two hundred dollars in bonus bets.
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: Instantly make it a playoff run to remember. With DraftKings,
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: download the DraftKings Sports Book app. Use the code Bobby Sports.
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: That's the code, one word Bobby Sports for new customers
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: to get two hundred dollars in bonus bets when you
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: bet just five bucks only on DraftKings. The Crown is yours.
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: Gambling problem call one one hundred gambler in New York
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: call eight seven seven eight Hope and why or text
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: hope and why as four six seven three sixty nine
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: and Connecticut helps available for problem gambling call eighty eight
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: seven eight nine seven seven seven seven or visit CCPG
• 1:02
  Speaker 2: dot org. Please play responsibly on behalf of Bootoe Casino
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: and Resort, Kansas twenty one plus. Age and eligibility varies
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: by jurisdiction. Void in Ontario. New customers only. Bonus bets
• 1:11
  Speaker 2: expire one hundred and sixty eight hours after issuance. For
• 1:13
  Speaker 2: additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see dkang dot co.
• 1:17
  Speaker 2: Slash audio.
• 1:21
  Speaker 3: It's a podcast, came twenty five wist So Stocking Force
• 1:26
  Speaker 3: and they are a whizz So.
• 1:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's too bad, but what did you expect?
• 1:30
  Speaker 4: It's a podcast, Come twenty five.
• 1:33
  Speaker 5: Whiz So twenty line Wheel.
• 1:36
  Speaker 1: Welcome, we have Sean Michael's coming up WWE superstar, two
• 1:40
  Speaker 1: time Hall of Famer. Really cool for me, I'm a
• 1:43
  Speaker 1: wrestling fan. I feel like a little bit though. Before
• 1:46
  Speaker 1: we get into the masters, I should tell you what
• 1:47
  Speaker 1: certain words mean for you non wrestling fans. Bloyd Eddie,
• 1:51
  Speaker 1: thank you? Like selling something? Do you know what that means?
• 1:56
  Speaker 3: No? No, okay.
• 1:57
  Speaker 1: If you were to sell a move, it's to sell
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: how much it hurts or or the impact of that move.
• 2:04
  Speaker 1: Like if I were to close line you and you
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: just went you You didn't sell it very hard. Oh okay,
• 2:09
  Speaker 1: but if I closed line the crap out of you
• 2:11
  Speaker 1: and I, yes, you sold it, that's selling, got it? Okay?
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: H Do you know what a heel is?
• 2:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the bad guy. Correct, Like he's a design
• 2:22
  Speaker 3: to be the bad guy. What's the opposite of a
• 2:24
  Speaker 3: bad guy the hero?
• 2:26
  Speaker 1: No, dang it. So a face, a baby face, and
• 2:29
  Speaker 1: a heel. So I'll talk to Sean Michaels about turning
• 2:33
  Speaker 1: seeing a heel, which he had never been in the
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: history of his career. But that's that term. Heel means
• 2:38
  Speaker 1: a bad guy. So selling heel. Trying to think anything
• 2:42
  Speaker 1: else because we just finished the interview. You talk about babyface, Well, no,
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about heel. I just wanted you to
• 2:46
  Speaker 1: know the opposite of that.
• 2:47
  Speaker 3: Now, I know that forever now.
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: When I think about the Masters yesterday, I feel like
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: Rory was the baby face. Andy Schambeau was the heel.
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: But not everybody felt that way.
• 2:55
  Speaker 3: No, not according to the roars.
• 2:58
  Speaker 1: No, I feel like the roars were very Rory. Really
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, did you even watch it?
• 3:03
  Speaker 3: I watched the first two their first two holes, and
• 3:05
  Speaker 3: then I had to go to basketball. Oh so then
• 3:08
  Speaker 3: you have I watched on my phone. Yeah, now, but
• 3:10
  Speaker 3: I didn't watch it. Watch it. They would love to watch.
• 3:12
  Speaker 1: They were roaring Rory big time because Deschamba blew it.
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: After the first hole, You're like, he's in it, and
• 3:17
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he was out. And that
• 3:19
  Speaker 1: has to suck to me in the final group and
• 3:20
  Speaker 1: really not be in.
• 3:22
  Speaker 3: Because you're walking that entire round and you're not even
• 3:25
  Speaker 3: in contention.
• 3:25
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm sure he was so frustrated. So yeah,
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: Deschambeau was not the baby face yesterday. I'm not even
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: gonna say it was the heel though, because he just
• 3:36
  Speaker 1: wasn't in it. So all right, we can start there.
• 3:41
  Speaker 1: You didn't watch It's Kevin? Did you watch it?
• 3:42
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah.
• 3:43
  Speaker 1: Whenever Rory was walking up eighteen and Jim Nance was
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: given the story about his dad, I was like, there's
• 3:50
  Speaker 1: no way Rory cannot lose this now because they're walking
• 3:53
  Speaker 1: up and Jim Nance is like on the eighteenth Rory
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: back when he was a kid, which, by the way,
• 3:58
  Speaker 1: I didn't know Rory grew up. Kind of had no
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: idea that he grew up very like lower middle class
• 4:02
  Speaker 1: I just assume all golfers grow up rich and have money,
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: because his golf is a very expensive sport. And so
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: Nance's like when Rory was growing up, you know, we
• 4:10
  Speaker 1: heard this story recently. His dad had one more token
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: for the whole week. It's all he could afford. And
• 4:14
  Speaker 1: he took Rory to the range and Rory's walking up
• 4:17
  Speaker 1: step by step, and he says he put the token
• 4:22
  Speaker 1: in and got the thirty balls and he was like, Rory,
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: this is all we have until next week. So once
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: you hit every one of these balls, like it's your
• 4:28
  Speaker 1: last shot at the Masters, Yeah, and then wow, and
• 4:31
  Speaker 1: Ry comes up makes he didn't miss the PI, but
• 4:35
  Speaker 1: he ended up winning it, but he.
• 4:37
  Speaker 7: Ended a trap right after Jim said all that, and
• 4:39
  Speaker 7: he was like, dang it, Rory, come on.
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like that was like the one where they're in
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: a meeting and Nance's like, you know, I got the
• 4:47
  Speaker 1: one about the one token I can go to, but
• 4:49
  Speaker 1: I really have to go to it. Like he's walking
• 4:51
  Speaker 1: up eighteen about to win, and there's probably a thought
• 4:55
  Speaker 1: because at that point, Justin Rose had made the birdie
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: on eighteen, the long one, and so Rory's coming up
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: and all he has to do is par the hole. Yep,
• 5:07
  Speaker 1: And it does feel like possibly he's going to par
• 5:09
  Speaker 1: maybe even birdie the whole because he hadn't hit that
• 5:11
  Speaker 1: bad at second shot yet into the trap. Yeah, and
• 5:13
  Speaker 1: that drive was awesome, so he hadn't won yet, but
• 5:16
  Speaker 1: odds are he was at least going to par the hole.
• 5:19
  Speaker 1: And you know what odds are even when he got
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: to the putt, he was going to part the whole.
• 5:22
  Speaker 1: That a five foot putt. Yeah, that was like the
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: story that they had in the pocket for Rory coming
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: down winning, And I'm sure they had one for like
• 5:30
  Speaker 1: seven right of the people, like some final walk down
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: eighteen here it is. Yeah, but Nance, he threw it
• 5:36
  Speaker 1: out there and then I thought, oh, if that story
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: is used and he doesn't win.
• 5:39
  Speaker 7: And no, that's the first thing I thought about. I
• 5:42
  Speaker 7: was like, Nance's gotta be a little upset.
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: When he missed that putt. Yeah, I couldn't believe it.
• 5:46
  Speaker 1: I was rooting for Rory a big time because I
• 5:48
  Speaker 1: bet on him. So I was in two different types
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: of money pool experiences. One I was just betting on
• 5:56
  Speaker 1: it on DraftKings, and then because I bet Rory to
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: win live bet after round two, and then I bet him.
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: Once the odds dropped where Justin Rose was the favorite,
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: I jumped back on Rory. So I made about a
• 6:08
  Speaker 1: thousand bucks yesterday.
• 6:09
  Speaker 6: Nice.
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: Although I was a little scared after he missed that putt.
• 6:14
  Speaker 1: I thought, no chance because the momentum was not with him. No.
• 6:18
  Speaker 1: It it was such a choke. It's such a choke
• 6:22
  Speaker 1: now to be he unchoked hard on the eighteenth, which
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: they replayed, and that was awesome. Oh, I felt so
• 6:28
  Speaker 1: bad for him, But I was rootined for Rory. But
• 6:33
  Speaker 1: to see everybody's hands go up on their head when
• 6:35
  Speaker 1: he missed that putt in slow motion because they re
• 6:37
  Speaker 1: showed him missed the putt and everybody or they did
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: the what do they call it, the cobra, the resting
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: cobra where they put their hands on the head and
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: their elbows go out. That was maybe one of the
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: biggest miss putt chokes I've ever seen.
• 6:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the whole day was just such a golf though.
• 6:54
  Speaker 7: Rory had two unbelievable shots.
• 6:56
  Speaker 6: Then he went in the water. Then he missed the putt,
• 6:59
  Speaker 6: but then then he ends up.
• 7:00
  Speaker 1: On like fifteen or sixteen that shot he hit into
• 7:02
  Speaker 1: the water. It was like an eighty eight yard pitch.
• 7:04
  Speaker 1: That was bad. That's not golf. If you're a pro,
• 7:06
  Speaker 1: that's golf of your eyes.
• 7:07
  Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. He is us.
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, Well, that's like.
• 7:10
  Speaker 3: When Jordan Speed, like a few years ago, he chili dipped,
• 7:12
  Speaker 3: like would you never see a pro chili dip? But
• 7:15
  Speaker 3: it was the Masters.
• 7:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a tough one. I'm glad Roy won.
• 7:19
  Speaker 1: I'm glad I won. I will give a big shout
• 7:20
  Speaker 1: out to Read because come on, baby, Reid ends up
• 7:23
  Speaker 1: betting on Justin Rose before where so this was he
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: was He was in fourth, and I was like, I
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: need to kind of keep an eye on him.
• 7:31
  Speaker 8: And then he dipped down to like ninth or tenth
• 7:33
  Speaker 8: and it was plus seven thousand. I was like, I'm
• 7:35
  Speaker 8: gonna come out of retirement for this. I'll put fifty
• 7:37
  Speaker 8: bucks on him at my plus seven thousand.
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: And he did and he hit us up and he goes,
• 7:42
  Speaker 1: should I cash out? And I immediately went yes, because
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: his fifty bucks made you how much?
• 7:46
  Speaker 8: Fifteen hundred dollars.
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: So he cashed out, thank god, because Rose ended up
• 7:50
  Speaker 1: losing in the playoff. Yeah, but Reid has the Midas touched.
• 7:54
  Speaker 8: I don't understand. I don't understand what happens. Honestly, the
• 7:57
  Speaker 8: cash out. I cashed out right when he made at
• 8:00
  Speaker 8: like fifteen foot birdie putt. But if I would have
• 8:03
  Speaker 8: waited until Rory missed his putt, just what I'm telling.
• 8:06
  Speaker 9: What the cash out.
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: But yeah, proud of myself.
• 8:09
  Speaker 6: You did great.
• 8:10
  Speaker 1: You have to stop doing that, becau. It's like good thing.
• 8:12
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 8:12
  Speaker 1: It was like after I cashed out, my butt was
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: still puss watchality and I'm like, no, it wasn't you
• 8:17
  Speaker 1: already catched out. It wasn't puckered. You're good, I know,
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: I know. But you also want ten dollars from all
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: of us for the basketball for Florida.
• 8:25
  Speaker 6: I forgot about that.
• 8:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to tell you that I won.
• 8:28
  Speaker 5: He did.
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: He doesn't even know he won. That's so annoying about it. Yeah,
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: he doesn't even know he won.
• 8:33
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I guess I did.
• 8:34
  Speaker 6: Have you won the Natty Florida, right, Yeah, let's go Gators.
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: That's so you randomly picked.
• 8:40
  Speaker 8: That's crazy.
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: So we all owe you ten bucks from that, all right?
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: But it was a really it was a really good masters.
• 8:46
  Speaker 7: That was the most I've been into a golf match
• 8:48
  Speaker 7: in a very long time.
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: My expectation was watching one Thursday, watch No One Friday,
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: watch a little Saturday, and then catch the back end
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: of it on Sunday. But because the Rory and Bryson
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: thing was leading, I was like, I'll watch it beginning
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: and then I just stayed with it because Rory had
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: such a lead. It was a does he finally win
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: his one that he hadn't you know, to complete, you know,
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: the Grand Slam? And does he finally after eleven years?
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: That's what's crazy that he didn't want a master or
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: excuse me, a major major almost eleven years that you
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: had won all the others that long ago. So it's cool. Look,
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of guy Rory is. I
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: feel like people like him. That being said, he knocked
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: the phone out of the guy's hand, you know, a
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: few weeks ago his issues. Bryson said, Rory didn't talk
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: to him at all that day. But they have big hate. Yeah,
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: they live PGA tour Like who cares? I want rivalry? Yeah,
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: I want them to be heels and baby faces. But
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: I was rooting for Rory the whole plus was rooting
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: for Rory, like crazy.
• 9:47
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, every time that scoreboard.
• 9:49
  Speaker 7: I love those shots that they had of the scoreboard
• 9:51
  Speaker 7: going live where the guys putting it up in the
• 9:52
  Speaker 7: whole crowd on a eighteen or whatever it was there.
• 9:55
  Speaker 6: Oh, just like you said, that was the best.
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: Because it's like the Red Sox scoreboard where they pulled
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: the yeah man, you witch it. Yeah, and they did,
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: and the place would go crazy because there's no way
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: to see it on your phone if you're not there
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: because you can't have your phone, so nobody knew until
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: they switched it up on the board if you weren't
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: watching it. But it was a good one.
• 10:12
  Speaker 6: It was fun.
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: It was I watched almost the whole thing, and my
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: wife sat down for like twenty minutes and she was like,
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: how do you watch this? And I said, well, I
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: find it entertaining. And I said, here's the storyline that
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: everybody's following. And she goes, well, if you gave me
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: a storyline about pain drying, it's still be boring his crap.
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, but it's the biggest. It's it's
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: the one. And she's like, if it were the biggest
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: paint dry I still wouldn't watch. She goes, I don't
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: find this entertaining at all.
• 10:33
  Speaker 3: And then she, yeah, my wife's is the same.
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: She jumped out. My wife like she will play golf,
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: and she's actually kind of good, like better than she
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: should be, considering she never plays. Although the one time
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: we went on a vacation up went to Branson, and
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: near Branson is that place that Johnny Morris own's. It's
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: a really nice hotel and he's like, you can come
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: stay up here, and it has golf courses, like, we'll
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: put you on our golf course, and he has some
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: really great golf courses. That Tiger Woods golf course is
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: up there. And so we go and I tell my
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: wife this is the first time we've ever played like eighteen.
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: And her parents are there too, and I'm like, hey,
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go. We're gonna play nine. You go in
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: the club, aush eat, you play nine more. It's like
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: three and a half four hours and we're done. And
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: so we go. We play nine, and we go in,
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: we grab a little food on a plate, get back
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: in the car and drive off. She said, who like what,
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: she goes, We didn't eat, we just grab food. I'm like,
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: what do you She goes, Oh, I thought we had
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: like dinner, like like you sit down and have like No,
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: she goes, this sucks, it's terrible.
• 11:31
  Speaker 6: You have a hot dog.
• 11:32
  Speaker 9: You keep going.
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you love me to believe her having this big,
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: big meal halfway through. Uh yeah, it's fun. It's fun
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: and Red made some money. We love that for you.
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: Read's only got two more weeks of the show and
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: he's out two more weeks.
• 11:44
  Speaker 9: You're gonna live it up.
• 11:45
  Speaker 8: Just soak it all in.
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: Man, moving to Saint Louis.
• 11:47
  Speaker 8: Moving to Saint Louis. How close is that to Branson?
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know. They're both in Missouri.
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: Can't be that far.
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: That's right. Are you nervous.
• 11:57
  Speaker 8: I'm a little nervous, but I think it's more bittersweet.
• 12:01
  Speaker 8: I'm excited.
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: How so, uh, just something new.
• 12:04
  Speaker 8: I mean, I haven't been with my girl for five years,
• 12:07
  Speaker 8: we haven't lived in the same town for five years,
• 12:10
  Speaker 8: and so just being being with each other every day
• 12:13
  Speaker 8: for the most part. She's gonna be super busy with school.
• 12:15
  Speaker 8: But I'm just really excited for that. And what's the
• 12:17
  Speaker 8: better part, the bitter part obviously leaving you guys.
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's just us. Yeah, that's cool.
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: Three hours fifty two minutes. It's about the same as
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: it is to hear Oh it is yea to get
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: to Branson. Sorry man, yeah, sorry, buddy man.
• 12:28
  Speaker 8: Win, lose, lose, I guess bitter bitter?
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: What part What are the lose?
• 12:34
  Speaker 8: I have no idea what the losses?
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, uh so, yeah that happened. I had two
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: notes for two sporting things that happened this weekend. Why
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: didn't you get to watch any of it? You're the
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: one that was talking about.
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: It's my favorite time of the year.
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna watch everything.
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: It's a weird thing. So my kids do tournament basketball, right,
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: and it's very strange because I root for my kids.
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: I love my kids, and I want them to win
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: every game they play. However, if they win on Saturday,
• 12:59
  Speaker 3: they play two games on Sunday for the championship, and
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: that really they won on Sunday. They won on Saturday.
• 13:06
  Speaker 3: So here I am Sunday. I'm like, I'm gonna miss
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: the Masters because I'm gonna have to go watch two
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: dumb games of basketball. And it's not two hours of basketball,
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: it's one hour, and then you wait two more hours
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: and watch other games happen. And then they play. So dude,
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: my four hours was wasted in Lebanon, Tennessee. I had
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: to watch the stupid game on my phone, which I
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: could barely see. On your phone, you can't see the
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: score like you have no idea what's happening. You just
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: see people hit balls. You don't even know where the
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: ball landed. It was so stupid and I was so upset.
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: But my kid won. He won the championship, all right,
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: but I didn't care. I want one.
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: It was the best Masters in ten years.
• 13:42
  Speaker 7: Oh since like Tiger, I guess since Tiger wanted just
• 13:45
  Speaker 7: because it was Tiger's coming back. But even that wasn't
• 13:46
  Speaker 7: I don't feel as the back and forth as what
• 13:48
  Speaker 7: it was.
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: Thank you, guys. I already heard your recount.
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: I'm telling to hear it again. I watched the whole thing.
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: I did not expect to stuff.
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: You didn't understand, man.
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: I did bet one of your UFC parley legs.
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: Wonderful.
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: Did you hit no?
• 14:01
  Speaker 8: Oh?
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: No, I got one out of three.
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, I probably want to have bet. Then I bet
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: Chandler over two and a half.
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: Oh that's why, yeah, why I.
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: Hit that one?
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: So you didn't do the parlay. You just picked the one.
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: I didn't remember the other two bucks in the parlay,
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: So I knew the Michael Chandler fight. That's only one
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: that I even cared to see what because he lost?
• 14:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I just bet that. I remember
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: me saying over two and a half.
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: Did you watch it?
• 14:24
  Speaker 9: No?
• 14:24
  Speaker 10: Oh?
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: You didn't buy it?
• 14:25
  Speaker 9: No?
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: Because I didn't know anything else going on, Okay, like
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: if Rory was fighting on watching it and Bryson, Yeah, no,
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: I didn't.
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: It was terrible because like my parlay was the first
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: fight of the main card, and that's the one I
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: lost immediately, So it's like, great, did you hate when
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: you lose the first leg of the parlay? And it's like, well,
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: now what am I watching for?
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: Did you watch all of it?
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: I did? I watch the whole thing.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: Had a Chandler fight terrible?
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: It went. It was weird because he when he walked
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: up to the ring, his eyes looked glossy, and I
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: was like, the first thing I thought was like, yeah, dude,
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: Nashville allergies are terrible, so he's probably not even feeling
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: good walking before the fight. And now, dude, Patty the
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: Batty is just too too good, Like he's crazy, he's awesome,
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: and he just beat the crap out of Michael Chandler.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: I saw Patty the Baddy, I don't know, fighting like
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: lipping with some dude backstage after a fight. But don't
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: we feel like all that's set up now? Kind of
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: like wrestling. I don't know, dude, we're like him and
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: another guy in a suit who's a fighter. We're yelling
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: at each other like talking crap. But don't we feel
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: like that's all set up for the next fight?
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: I would say yes, But there was one time, I
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: think last year where they you know, sometimes when there's
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: like a fight going on, there's seven or eight UFC
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: fighters that are watching the fight, and the camera will
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: go to him like, oh, here's whatever, Sean whatever, and
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: he waves the camera. Well, they put it to this
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: guy and he's like, look coming up in a couple
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: of weeks, he's gonna be fighting that guy. And he
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: walks over and literally walks. I think you saw it.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: He walks over some steps and starts punching the dude
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: and they start fighting in the crowd.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: That was not fake at all, but I still think
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: that's probably fake test. I'm being honest. Yeah. Oh I
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: don't know, oh man, because it's like whenever they do
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: the weigh ins and they start fighting and if people
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: pull them apart, that's always set up. I don't think
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: you have. Yeah, the promotion of it, well, you don't
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: think that's just pure promotion.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: No, because some guys they just like you know, they
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: do the pose and then they give each other hugs
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: like we can't wait to fight, you man, don't the.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Big ones, they're always John or somebody swinging. That's always
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: set up.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: Connor McGregor was good at the FEU.
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: I was gonna say, what about the when he threw
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: it with a chair at the bus or whatever.
• 16:29
  Speaker 9: I don't know that one.
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: Connor River is crazy man, like he was chunking chairs.
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: I think they told him to do one thing and
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: he just took it to another level.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: I think the promotion is still performative, yeah, even boxing,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: because they're talking all this mess mostly just getting people interested.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: But the fighting is real. But I do think all
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: the promotion or most of the promotion is performative.
• 16:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Otherwise after they do all this, they talk so much
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: crap and they fight, then they hug it after a match. Dude,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: if I hate somebody so bad and they beat the
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: crap out of me, I ain't hugging on the right.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: So I'm surprised you're so naive.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: I've I've seen both. I've seen where they fought before
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: the fight, and I've seen where they just like, there's
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: no feud here. We're just gonna fight each other.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: And that's okay. But I'm saying the ones where they
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: do throw at each other, those are ninety percent set.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: Up disrespecting each other is what they say. He disrespected
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: me when you're talking about my mom like that.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: The Parks are one of the Masters. Not only do
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: they get their name on the trophy, they give get
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: a gold medal at three point four inch two pounds
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: gold medal, it says Masters.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: And gold is like up right now it is.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna melt it down and sell it, but.
• 17:34
  Speaker 9: I do hear you, Celtic.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: They have the honor of getting to choose the menu
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: for the following year's Masters Champion dinner. You get a
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: permanent invite to that dinner.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: What do you mean they choose the menu?
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, every year.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: So like, if I win, I can say, like, we're
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: all eating pizza.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a new story. Every year they show
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: the menu of the person that won the year before
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: and all they pick because I.
• 17:53
  Speaker 8: Think Scheffler did like burgers or something.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: And confetti ca Yeah, oh that's cool. You get to
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: pick the menu. The wives of the winners are unofficially
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: designated the recipients of a locket in the shape of
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: the Master's logo. You have an honorary lifetime membership to
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Augusta National access to champions locker room. You also get
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: the Champion's Driving Range, which I talked about last week.
• 18:16
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Winners permanently qualify for the Masters and receive automatic invites
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: for the next five years to the Open, the British Open,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: the PGA Championship, and as far as the money goes,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: it goes up every year. I think four point two
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: million was what it was yesterday. Four point three If
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: you win it, that's pretty legit.
• 18:33
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you could still come in fiftieth and win like
• 18:35
  Speaker 8: fifty grand.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta make the cut. Whoever makes the cut
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: makes money crazy.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I think they may now have because of lip started
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: to pay in some events non cut makers because people
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: were like, welly am I going to go play? Because
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: you spend all your own money. PJA doesn't pay for anything,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: So you have to find your own housing and get
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: to pay for everything.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: It's not like you're touring so but you have sponsors
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: that's why you wear the.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: But you can tour and have sponsors too, like they
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: can pay for your bus, but everything has to be
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: accounted for. Nobody's paying for it, Like a sponsor just
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: goes I'll pay you this amount of money to wear stuff.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: But you have to figure out. You have to allocate
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: all the money yourself, so you have to pay for everything.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: You're basically just an employee of yourself. What do you
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: call those sure that whatever you're going to say, contract,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: thank you depend a contractor. So if you do all
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: that and you still don't make the cut and you
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: make no money, you're like, I just spent all this time,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: and Live was paying their players bucket loads of money.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: So there was a rule change and modification for some
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: maybe not all that. Everybody got paid even if you
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: missed the cut, Like if you were invited to play
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: in the tournament, you got paid.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Your expenses were at least you're a pro.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: So we're still going to pay you since you played professional.
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: Did you see the kid pee in the river?
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I saw on the practice round, the Arizona State kid
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: who peed in the river. It was a big deal.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: For a second, his hat. He also had the riding
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: upside down on his head and that was a big
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: deal too.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Really.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they just look for things to make big deals
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: out up before it starts.
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: But there was a practice round. It wasn't even the first.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: It was practice rounk oh I Peter pell Beach. Yeah,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: but that's not the Masters, that's not the river.
• 20:12
  Speaker 9: In the ocean, cool.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Cliff, No, somebody's backyard.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh different, my man. Different. We do have Sean
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Michael's coming up, so we'll get to him. Russell Mania
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: is this weekend Friday and Saturday, but also n XT,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: which is kind of the version I would say, like
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: the minor league baseball, college football of the WWE. They
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: have a big event that day. We'll talk to him
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: in a second. But let's I mean, we can look
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: at the parlay. I do have it up here now,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: the DraftKings parlay. You picked Chandler over pa. Oh you
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: did one point five rounds?
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I got at two point five and
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: it was two point five at the start of the fight.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't better if I didn't know that's what and
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: you still hit it.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: We hit it by like twenty seconds, thirty seconds.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Maybe, Wait, but you bet one point five, so you
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: hit a big time.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, that was part of the parlay. But I
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: lost that parlay, so I had to rebet it.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Diego Lopez he lost, and Love lost. Those are two people.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Diego Lopez close fight. I think he could have won it.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: He was close to in it, but he lost. Man
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: that first one, he got knocked out, so no chance
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: to win that one.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: We can build NBA parlay hawks at Magic. This is
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: on Tuesday, Dude, I don't even know who wants to
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: play anymore because I watched the Lakers and Warriors and
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: now the Lakers are the three and they're playing Minnesota
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: as the six. That's a fun series. That's almost a
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: great Yeah, it's almost too tough for the Lakers. You
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: kind of wish the Lakers had a better draw so
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: they could last a little longer, because you would hate
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: to see Lebron and Luca go down first. I'm not
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: a Lakers fan, but I like to see bigger teams
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: and bigger shots. Hawks at Magic. I don't, dude, I
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: don't know. Just go Hawks, Man, no magic, magic but
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: magic five and a half point listen, I literally don't care.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: See you can make it at a Hawks and Magic
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Magic at five and a half point five.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: I like Trey Young, Let's just go Hawks.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: So you're taking the points Hawks plus five and a
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: half Okay, Grizz Warriors Warriors six and a half point favorites?
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Talking to you, Eddie, you all you want me to
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: pick that one too?
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Sure?
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: I like the Grizz. Let's go with the home team.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I'd probably go Grizz too, just because the Warriors don't
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: really have anything to play for right now. Okay, so
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: we're going two underdogs with the points. Some such dice tosses,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: especially this late. It's like Week eighteen of NFL.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Where you're like, I don't know, Man.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Over under Hawks and Magic over to sixteen.
• 22:37
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Good luck, good luck with that one. Everybody download the
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Draftking Sports Book app now use the code Bobby Sports. Yeah,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know that, I manny, I'll bet it. I'll
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: bet you arguing about that one. Put five bucks on
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: it all right download the Draft King Sports Book app.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Now you can use the code one word.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Bobby sports gambling problem called one hundred gambler in New
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: York call eight seven seven eight hope and why or
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: text hope and why. That's four six seven three sixty
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: nine and Connecticut helps available for problem gambling called eighty
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: eight seven eight nine seven seven seven seven or visit
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: CCPG dot org. Please play responsibly on behalf of Bootoe
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Casino and Resort, Kansas twenty one plus. Age and eligibility
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: varies by jurisdiction void in Ontario, New customers only. Bonus
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: bets expire one hundred and sixty eight hours after issuance.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: For additional terms responsible gaming resources, see dkang dot co
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: slash audio. So it's very exciting. We're gonna talk to it.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Two time WWE Hall of Fame wrestler Shawn Michaels. He's
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: been in twice, once as a member of Degeneration X,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: which by the way, got a lot of kids in
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: trouble back in the day.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: What do you mean, Yeah, they didn't suck yea, he
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: did that thing. We have to keep Eddy away from
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: any wrestling tik man.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: My kids did that. The other day and I'm like,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: you can know what you're doing.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: But that was like when we were younger.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're still doing it. Kids still do it.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Maybe they just were just saying sucking to say it.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Probably Sean is one of the most memorable guys ever
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: to wrestle, but he's no an executive and he runs
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: NXT some graduates of NXT and he talks about this
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Roman reigned seth Rollins. Big thanks to Shawn Michaels for
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: coming on. You can check them out on social media
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: at Shawn Michaels. Here he is Shawn Michaels. Hey, Shawn,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: first off, thanks for the time man, big fan.
• 24:14
  Speaker 9: My pleasure. Thank you very much for having me.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: We were fortunate enough to go to Stone Colds house.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: He invited us out and we spent the day with him.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: And you know, we've we have been pretty lucky with
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: a bunch of professional wrestlers that have come on. And
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I've been a wrestling fan for a long time. And
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: my you know, my takeaway as always when I see
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: someone do a move that I know hurts, yet you
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: still have to continue to wrestle. Like I saw bron
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Breaker Spear, somebody of the day and one of the
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: hardest spears I've ever seen, Like like that has to
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: hurt so bad that I don't know how you're able
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: to bounce back so quickly even though that has to hurt,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: because you know when a move like that's gonna hit,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: it's going to hurt, right.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Absolutely well, I'll say this, it's staggering what the human
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: body capable of and what you get used to. We
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: it's just it's it's our normal, to be perfectly honest,
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: and I think any football player would kind of tell
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: you the same thing, but it really is.
• 25:13
  Speaker 9: It's it's staggering what your body becomes used to.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: And we always talk about like it's almost as if
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: it becomes calloused over time. And that's why even when
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: later on in my career, when I was older, you know,
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: I had I guess what would be termed as a
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: lighter schedule, so to speak, but that was still one
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: hundred and fifty times a year because doing it more
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: often was actually easier to me than just doing it
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: once in a while, because the shortest did set in.
• 25:45
  Speaker 9: It does you know you you you you.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: Sort of your body calms down, it refreshes, it recuperates,
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: it recovers that was actually a longer process and more
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: painful process to me than just doing it consistently until
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: you decided you were done.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Do you feel that there is a difference in selling
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: really well and then over selling especially finishers? What's the
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: line there?
• 26:07
  Speaker 9: Well, look, I.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: Will say this, the business has changed so much, and
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: I think it's interesting, you know, use the word over
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: selling and back again in the nineties, somebody like a
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: mister perfect Kurt Hennick, who obviously I sort of you know,
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: used his style from a selling standpoint, I think in
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: this day and age he would be considered an overseller.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: But it was very visual. It was very appealing, you know,
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: the same the way that I sold in the nineties,
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Dolf Ziegler, you know, Billy Gunn. They were all very
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: visual sellers in my opinion, But I don't know how
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: that would be received this day and age. A lot
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: has changed over the years. I think also with MMA
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: being around, our business had to evolve and sort of
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: replicate what I think people received, as you know, legitimately.
• 27:03
  Speaker 9: Painful or not.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: And so I think as this continues to grow and
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: evolve and change, our business is going to continue to
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: do that. I think, And I don't know if that's
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: the you know, the question you were asking, or if
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: it's more so, like you said, too many people doing
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: too many moves that were once considered a finisher and
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: then moving on quickly after that.
• 27:28
  Speaker 9: So it's you know, the business.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: Goes through that all the time. Old timers like me
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: often talk about all these kids today they don't sell
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: anything like we did. But at the same time, I
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: also remember people saying that to me, so that also
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: is generational. And uh, I think you have to change
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: with the times. Football and basketball, baseball, they all need
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: to be faster than they once were to keep an
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: audience entertained and locked in, and our business.
• 27:58
  Speaker 9: Is no different.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: I was watching Kevin no One's talk about the stunner
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: and how there are certain people that can sell the
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: stunner really well, and some people like do backflips out
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: of it. And there's a fine line in selling the
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: stunner because it's supposed to be a finisher and you're
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: supposed to react, but some go too far. And I
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: guess that was my question, but I think you answered
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: it perfectly. But also and I'm just pulling up things
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: like I was listening to Undertaker talk about how sometimes
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: the finisher is used, yet some of the new generation
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: doesn't respect that it should mean you're finished. Like, what's
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: the fine line with you guys, because again you're the
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: creatives behind it. Is there ever a meeting where it's like, hey, look,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: if we're gonna, you know, use this finisher, they kind
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: of need to be done because too many kickouts after
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: the finisher means it's not actually a finisher.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So look, I think we go through phases and
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: peaks and valles in that to where you are looking
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: to give your fans the most for their entertainment dollar,
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: and nine times out of ten.
• 28:55
  Speaker 9: That's excitement, that's movement.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: Certainly from an NXT standpoint, we don't have the equity
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: in our superstars that a main roster, a raw or
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: a SmackDown hacks a viewer is not. You know, might
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: not watch an NXT upstart who's been doing this for
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: six months as long as they're going to watch Kevin Owens,
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: and so that young superstar will probably have to move
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: faster and do more exciting things to keep that viewer invested.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: But at the same time you want to teach them
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: and keep the integrity of the business.
• 29:32
  Speaker 9: So look, you might.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Begin to give them a little leeway, and usually what
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: happens is we do that, but then after a while
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: it goes too far and then we reel and have
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: to rain everybody back in. And so that's just something
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: you have to keep your fingers on the pulse of.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: And and that's something I think that's that's going on now,
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: you know, I think everybody you know, especially you know
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: my finisher, the super kick or again, I'm now understanding
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: that a super kick is one thing, but sweet chin music,
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: that's a finisher. So I think when you get into
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: those types of things, if you want to keep the integrity.
• 30:09
  Speaker 9: Of the move.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: You know, obviously we want that to always be noteworthy,
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: but I think you have to kind of call those
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: as you see them, and and and hopefully that the
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: fan base appreciates and understands that.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I was watching some of the MMA this past weekend,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: and I think it traditionally Dana White gives a bonus
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: or if you perform really well. Obviously sometimes if it's
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: so great, you get a bump quicker with NXT and
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: especially at standard deliver, well, you guys like watch tape
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: regardless of who wins or loses and go, man, they
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: really performed at a level that is so high, maybe
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: we give them a shot earlier than we thought we
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: were going.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: To absolutely again, Stand and Deliver much like WrestleMania, that's.
• 30:51
  Speaker 9: Where you can you can turn your career.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: Around in one match, in one moment, and so absolutely
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: and then when it comes to bonuses, those are things
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: that especially I think from an NXT standpoint, you know,
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: we have a lot of multi person matches at Stand
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: and Deliver and look, a lot of people don't like that, but.
• 31:14
  Speaker 9: These young men and women work throughout the entire year.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: Not all of them get an opportunity to be on pls,
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: to be on those you know, road shows, to be
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: on those televisions that are on the road that we've
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: been doing so much more of lately. And so we
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: want to give as many people as we can an
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: opportunity to perform on the biggest weekend. That's the reason
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: people get into this line of work is to have
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: that experience, to have those moments, and we're hoping that
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: you know, we have a lot of standouts come Stand
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: and Deliver on Saturday, April nineteenth. I think it's something
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: that we definitely keep an eye on, and anytime there's
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: a performance or somebody.
• 31:56
  Speaker 9: That just goes above and beyond, whether it's.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: In a match or just throughout the entire year, we
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: try to take care of them as much as possible.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: On Peacock Stand and Deliver will be streamed. WrestleMania Night
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: one is also that night when do you have a
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: favorite WrestleMania moment?
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: So I am very fortunate to have quite a few,
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: perfectly honest. You know, I always go from the ladder
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: match at WrestleMania ten, where I thought, you know, where
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: I felt like I put myself on the map as
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: a real main event player winning your first World championship.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: But then I you know, I'm very proud of my
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: matches with Kurt angle with Rick Flair, and obviously my
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: two with the Undertaker. I've just been so fortunate to
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: have a lot of really, uh fantastic performances that I'm
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: really proud of at WrestleMania, And like I said, that's
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: what that's I don't know, I kind of feel like I,
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: you know, built my career on you know, hence the
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: names to WrestleMania on those moments and those matches so
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: very fortunate to have quite a few, and it's always
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: hard to narrow it down to one.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: I have friends that have been in bands or even
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: in duos and they end up going solo and music,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: and it's because that's what they really wanted to do.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: But also there is a transition period for you. What
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: was maybe what you didn't I don't know what you
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: had to learn most when you did go solo, being
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: a superstar by yourself, not an attack team man a lot.
• 33:23
  Speaker 9: I gotta be honest, I was able to. Really it
• 33:28
  Speaker 9: took me.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Time to transition from I felt like I was always
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: a good worker, a good you know, a good wrestler
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: within the ropes. I think learning the character side and
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: then learning I don't know, the creative and the storyline
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: side of that, and being able to lose myself and
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: that creatively is what made the difference and separated me,
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: you know, from just being another singles superstar and somebody
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: that would be in the mix on a regular basis.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: I think performing those storylines, being in those storylines, being
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: able to make them compelling, interesting, and then having.
• 34:08
  Speaker 9: The matches to be able to back it up and.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: Tie all those things together in the ring at one time,
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: I think, is you know, where I was able to
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: you know, set myself apart, and that was something that
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: again I learned along the way. But I think, you know,
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: it's funny, ironically, I always talk about WrestleMania nine there
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: in Vegas, when I defended the Intercontinent Championship in the
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: first match, but then I kind of went into a
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: storyline on that show with Mister Perfect.
• 34:40
  Speaker 9: It was kind of one of my.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: First backstage attacks and something like that, and I think
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: that was my first sort of, you.
• 34:47
  Speaker 9: Know, step into that.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: Being more than just a regular wrestler on TV, just
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: another guy that was filling a segment. And that's what
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: I think superstars want to become. They want to be
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: somebody that's regularly in the mix and part of very
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: significant and important storylines within a raw or a SmackDown.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: And I felt like that's something that I started to
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: embark on at WrestleMania nine and did my best to
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: build on from that point on.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: I was trying to explain to a friend what n
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: XT is before we talk about Standard Deliver. I guess
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: my analogy was college football to the NFL. Well, is
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: that fair?
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's pretty accurate. That's certainly how I
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: describe it. Certainly, look at us as here at nxc
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: BE and uh, you know, University of Alabama or or
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: Ohio State, you know, somebody that's obviously dominant, but exactly
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: you know that level before you uh you know, make
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: it to the NFL.
• 35:46
  Speaker 9: And to me, that's what's so cool about it.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm quite frankly, I'm a I'm a huge
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: college football fan because you know, it's never over until
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: you know there's triple zeros.
• 35:57
  Speaker 9: On the on the time.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: And again, think can happen in college football, and that's
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: the same for NXT.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: And with WrestleMania coming up this weekend and it's two
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: nights on night one, you guys are doing standard delivery
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: on peacock if you're doing those events pre WrestleMania in
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: the past, have there been a lot of NXT guys
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: that are now in the last couple of WrestleManias that
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: are headliners, Like, have there been real instances of people
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: moving up?
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly. I mean we obviously throughout the draft last year.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: You know, bron Breakers, you know, having his first WrestleMania
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: this year. Tiffany Stratton defending the World Championship against Charlotte Flair.
• 36:38
  Speaker 9: So absolutely, And look, I'll say this.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: If you want to take a look at again Roman Reigns,
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: Seth Rollins, Sammy Zay, numerous others, Kevin Owens, all of
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: them NXT alum so to speak. So NXT has proven
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: that the main eventers of WrestleMania come through NXT.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Are there ever any that don't go through an XT that,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: let's say, a high school player that gets automatically put
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: in the pros? Like, does that ever happen? Where you
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: find somebody that dynamic?
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: I'd have to say, Look, I don't think you're going
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: to find anybody that has, you know, come in untrained.
• 37:15
  Speaker 9: Now, there might be somebody that's at a very.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Young age where they've been out on the independent scene
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: in the wrestling world and has you know, caught a
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: huge buzz and then miraculously somebody from the main roster
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: sees them and wants.
• 37:32
  Speaker 9: To bring them aboard right away.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: You might we also have people that, again have been
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: to other places, but they've been in the business for
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: a while. I don't think, well, it's going to be
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: pretty tough if we find somebody that has uh not
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: ever done anything in the wrestling business and then kind
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: of make it straight to the uh the main roster
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: with no wrestling experience coming out of college.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: What about the difference of being a wrestler versus being
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: now what you are where you were one of the
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: greatest of all time, versus a creative and an executive,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Because I'm sure there had to be thoughts while you're wrestling,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: like man, if I could only be the creative or
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: the executive, things would be so different. But I'm sure
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: now that you have got you've come into this position,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: you've learned a lot of things that maybe you didn't
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: know or appreciate while you're wrestling a lot.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: First of all, I never dreamed of being anything corporate
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: or executive because I simply didn't think I could do it.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: I didn't think that was in my makeup. I'm very fortunate.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: I've always enjoyed the side. Again, you know, everybody's heard
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: the stories and they're very true of Hunter and I
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: driving up and down the road, you know, again talking
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: about storylines, talking about creative So the creative side was
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: always there. But I will say, look, some of the
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: things I have learned is that again, creative takes a
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: lot of heat. They take a lot of blame for
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: things that you know are not in their control. Understanding
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: some of the adjustments you have to make on the fly,
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: whether it be different personality, whether it be injuries, whether
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: it be all these different things that can.
• 39:04
  Speaker 9: Come your way that you're never aware of as a talent.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: So learning that on this side has been fun, but
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: it's been interesting and challenging at the same time. And
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: I think from the corporate standpoint, doing stuff like this
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: and sounding I don't know, relatively intelligent has always been
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: an extreme challenge for me because again, I'm a kid
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: that wanted to be a wrestler when he was nineteen
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: and now, you know, knocking on the door of sixty,
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: and I'm still a kid at heart. But unfortunately, you know,
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: I have the task of trying to build a whole
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: brand with some great help around me. But I think
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: it's something and it's a task that I'm certainly ready for.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: I have three questions left, and one of them I
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: was watching an interview with Triple H. What I find
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: really refreshing is that you guys will talk about the stories,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: even within this story, and he was talking about the
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: decision to flip Sena and turn Sina Hill, and he's
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: talking about it already. And I can understand from a
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: lot of the traditional wrestling fans, and I'm one of them,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: why maybe some people don't like that. I love it
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: because I'm able to separate the art and the artist
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: and the business decisions that need to be made and
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: the creative decisions. But for you, who's done both right?
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Like you, like you said, you're a wrestler, you're old school,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: but you also have to be new school. How do you, guys,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: and how did you decide that you wanted to actually
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: incorporate what was happening behind the scenes publicly.
• 40:34
  Speaker 9: Well, we again, we started doing that.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: And look, I know it's obviously, I guess a blot
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: on the wrestling business, but you know, with the curtain call,
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: but you know, we we that was something that we
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: as a group felt like many many years ago that
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: you know, wrestling fans and fans in general, they understand
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: what it is we do and I yes, but it's
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: still in art form. It's still something that it's to
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: be appreciated. And I think that that's the most intriguing
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: part of this line of work. Yes, I mean talk
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: about the physicality, and you touched on it earlier.
• 41:16
  Speaker 9: But I think any.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: You know, even minded individual knows that what we do
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: is not easy, and so from a physical standpoint, we
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: feel like we have the respect that we need. And
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: so therefore you start talking about the creative side and
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: understanding just how intriguing and how interesting that is to
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: some of us. And I think it's just easier to
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: I don't know, to put that out there and also
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: again not insult I don't know your viewers intelligent, don't
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: do it with your superstars. We're very open, you know,
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: with this generation. I think because a lot of things
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: were kept so close to the vest in our generation.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: And also I don't know, I think there were you know,
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: there's some traditionalist and purest I think it's I think
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: it can be more damaging to the to the business,
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: uh and keep it from evolving in there. I don't know,
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: in their wanting to, you know, try to pass it
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: off of something that it isn't. And I guess that's
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: the part that we've never really understood.
• 42:19
  Speaker 9: You know.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: It's we're just speaking the truth on what is you know,
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: still a very tough, complicated interesting, exciting, compelling line of work.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: And if you truly feel the love and passion for
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: it that we do, you're going to understand that. And
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: you're not going to lose anything. In fact, you might
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: find more respect for it.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Two questions left. Why is the Undertaker so revered he's loved? Why?
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: I think the way he carried himself to be perfectly
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: honest when everything's said and done, Uh, Mark was just
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: always a pro And and I think there are times
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: he went through every motion that all the rest of
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: us did, but he kept it close to the vest.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: And and he did a lot of stuff in private
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: and and and I think that's that's the reason why.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: You know, he always uh did business the right way,
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: had his problems, had his ups and downs, but most
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: people didn't know about it. And for that reason alone,
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: he deserves all the respect in the world. And he
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: gets it and will continue to give it, I'm sure
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: for a long long time.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: My final question, you won the roller Rumble twice. When
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: did you know each time you were going to win?
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: How far out?
• 43:36
  Speaker 9: That's a heck of a question.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Is it days, weeks or at times? Will you just
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: find out day of or they change it?
• 43:42
  Speaker 9: Well, again, they vary.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: But but but when it comes to a lot of things, yeah,
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: those have changed. I think the rumble the first one
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: I think was probably like a week or two in advance.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: The second one I think was farther, you know, it
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: was closer to to game time. But that's one of
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: the things with creative, certainly, you know, depending on where
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: you're at on the card, some of those things come
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: down at the last minute, and as you start to
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: go up on the card, your creative gets a little
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: bit farther out in front. Obviously always understanding that anything
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: could change at the last minute, and sometimes often does.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Has it ever changed in the middle of the rumble though,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: where it's like, hey, you go, you're number sixteen, go
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: down and let them know we've now changed the ending.
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, not ever the ending, but we did have
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: a time I think Steve's told the story before when
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: when Steve got eliminated in a point where he was
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: not you know, he was supposed to be a vital
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: part at the end of the end of the rumble
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: and that didn't happen. And I think also, I want
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: to say, Luger and Bread I think also had you know,
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: a miscommunication. So there's been a couple of times, but again,
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: that's the joy of this job, though there's been plenty
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: of times out there in the ring when you know,
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: in a world you hope you know what's going to happen,
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: it totally doesn't and you got to make get up
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: on the fly. And uh, again, that's what makes it
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: exciting all the time. And and you never know when
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: those things are going to happen, and then you've got
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: the you know, in addition to that, you've got the
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: trying to make that happen so people think that something
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: went wrong and then you know, you just start getting
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: yourself into a rabbit hole.
• 45:17
  Speaker 9: There of creative.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 45:18
  Speaker 9: That's incredibly fun and interesting.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Sean Michaels, big fan. Thanks for the time. It's been
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: really cool to talk with you, and I hope you
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: have a great week leading up to it.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you very much, and yeah, hell of an
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: interview by the way, Thank you. There's a lot of
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: fun for me. I appreciate it.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Are you serious? I know, I don't know, Like what why?
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: I don't know, because I don't know, because you're you're
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: you're an interesting, smart wrestling fan that I don't know,
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know, it's just asking questions I think from
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: a different perspective, And I don't know, I always like
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: that sometimes it's a lot of the same old, same old,
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: and so I don't know, I appreciate you guys, you know,
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: not making it just sort of a I don't know,
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: copy and paste kind of interview.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Would what would copy and paste? What? Like? I don't
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: know what a copy and paste is? But what what
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: are they copy and paste? Do they say? Like what?
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: I don't know?
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: What's a copy and paste? Question?
• 46:04
  Speaker 9: Well? I don't know. Again, what was it? What was
• 46:06
  Speaker 9: it like when I don't know, winning your first champions?
• 46:08
  Speaker 9: Got it?
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Got it? Got it? Okay, that's awesome, you know what
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 46:12
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: I appreciate the fact also I get I guess that
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: you're you know, you're a wrestling fan that understands both
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: sides of it and has an appreciation.
• 46:22
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: I'm always interested in compelled by the over selling and
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: and how you guys feel about kicking out of too
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: many things and stuff like that.
• 46:30
  Speaker 9: Uh, you know, you.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: Can sort of have an idea of those things, but
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: you know, we don't you don't get a chance to
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: interact with people that much, and uh, I don't know
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: here there hear their opinions on it.
• 46:43
  Speaker 9: So that's interesting.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Thanks Shawn Well. I appreciate the time, and I appreciate
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: you even answering my questions about the questions I was asking.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: That's awesome, Darius Show, Michaels, everybody all right, John, thank
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: you body, see you later. The NBA eighty two game
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: grind is done, but now the real fun begins. The playoffs.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: They're here. It's time for all the high stakes drama,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: clutch moments, jaw dropping plays. I cannot wait. And if
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: you're looking to make the playoffs even more exciting, DraftKings
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: sports Book has you covered. As an official sports betting
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: partner of the NBA. Try placing a bet on your
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: favorite player's performance. Will they drop thirty points, forty points more?
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: It's your call. Here's something special for first timers. New
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Draft Kings customers. Bet five dollars and get two hundred
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: dollars in bonus bets. Instantly make it a playoff run
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: to remember. With DraftKings, download the DraftKings sports Book app.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Use the code Bobby Sports. That's the code. One word
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Bobby Sports. For new customers to get two hundred dollars
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: in bonus bets when you bet just five bucks only
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: on DraftKings. The Crown is yours.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Gambling problem call one one hundred Gambler In New York
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: call eight seven seven eight hope and why, or text
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: hope and why as four six seven three sixty nine
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: and Connecticut help is available for problem gambling call eighty
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: eight seven eight nine seven seven seven seven or visit
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: CCPG dot org. Please play responsibly on behalf of Bootoo
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: and Resort Kansas twenty one plus. Age and eligibility varies
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: by jurisdiction void in Ontario. New customers only. Bonus bets
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: expire one hundred and sixty eight hours after issuance. For
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: traditional terms responsible gaming resources see dkang dot co slash audio.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Coming up, we'll talk to John Lepley, who was my
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: first ever autograph. We talked about who's the first pro
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: athlete you ever met and got an autograph from? And
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: I mentioned this random minor leaguer that I remember vividly
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: named John Lepley. We tried to track them down, we
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: couldn't find them. We have them, so we'll talk about
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: playing minor league ball, and then it's just crazy because
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: that's the first person I ever got to sign a
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: ball when I was a kid at the Arkansas Travelers game.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: That's awesome.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: So John Lepley coming up in just a little bit. Hey,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: I do want to talk about Niko leaving Tennessee. And
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I was watching a lot of people say, this is
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: not business, This is not what it's supposed to be. Sadly,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: it is exactly business, and it is right now, fairly
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: inside the sandbox of college football. So everyone that's going
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: this is not college football, this is not busy. Man.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: You don't have to agree with what college football is now,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: but this is exactly what college football is. And his
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: was just a little bigger and a little more public
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: than eighty four other versions of the exact same thing happening.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not talking about holding out because I think they
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: knew from what I'm reading now that he wasn't going
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: to practice, Like he didn't show up, but they knew
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: he wasn't going to practice. They knew he his little brother,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: by the way, go was Arkansas quarterback. Oh really, yeah,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: year younger, maybe two years younger. So it wasn't a
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: surprise to from what I have heard from people very
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: close to the source that he ended up not being
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: a volunteer. So when we heard it was like quarterback
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: for the University of Tennessee, Nico, I'm sure to say
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: his last name, but Allan As we beat him this
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: year and it is awesome that he's holding out, and
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: then everybody on Twitter, you can't do this, you shouldn't
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: do this. Sadly you can and people are and it
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: doesn't get to hold out. Some players just go, hey,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: if you don't give it to me, we're gonna leave,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: and then they leave and there's never a holdout and
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: so they just get in the portal. Now think about
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: spring portal as you can't travel within the conference, so
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: he can't go to another SEC school. Another one of
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: the things that have come out is that Dan Lanning
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: at Oregon had her Nika was being shopped, so he
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: called Hypel and was like, hey, Nico's dad shopping him around, which,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: by the way, it feels gross because it is gross,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: but that is absolutely allowed because that is happening with
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: eighty percent of the players on one hundred percent of
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: the programs. So because you don't like it, that doesn't
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: mean that it's not allowed or it's not business. He
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: was getting two million or so one of four. Now,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: the business part of it is if you get it,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: that's good business. If I decide to hold out here,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not coming into work until I get a new contract. Okay,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: that's business. Now. Is it going to work out for me?
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: But if it doesn't work out for me, it's still business.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: But it was just a bad business decision. He's still
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: going to get closer to the money he wants by
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: going to UCLA or usc or and that's business. He's
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: going to get the money he wants. It was all
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: about money for him, So it sucks for Tennessee. You're
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: a big balls guy, Middle Tennessee fans, big the balls.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: But it is the business of college football now and
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: it's absolutely allowed. It is within the sandbox that is allowed.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Is it broken? Yes, But we need stories like this.
• 51:28
  Speaker 7: But how long until you think they fix it? We've
• 51:31
  Speaker 7: talked about this for a couple of years now. You've
• 51:32
  Speaker 7: always said day one, it's got to hit rock bottom
• 51:34
  Speaker 7: to be able to fix it, and it the bigger
• 51:36
  Speaker 7: the stories are, the more rock bottom it feels. And
• 51:38
  Speaker 7: this is pretty rock bottom. I think it is the
• 51:40
  Speaker 7: timing of it too, Maybe both just late in the spring,
• 51:43
  Speaker 7: you know, you're like really now.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: And a big program. So here's who can fix it?
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Not the nc DOUBLEA. The NCAA didn't want any of
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: this to happen, so people are blaming the nc DOUBLEA.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: N CUBA didn't want to pay anybody. They lost the
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Supreme Court case, the Obannon case of the video game.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: That's what allowed all of this within IOL. So what's
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: going to have to happen is it's going to have
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: to be such a disaster that there are going to
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: be folks that lobby the lawmakers in order to make
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: the laws different. This is not an easy fix by
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: a school or the NCAA, or it would be fixed already.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: NCUBA don't want to pay anybody, The schools don't want
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: to be held hostage. Or four million dollars, five million dollars,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: two hundred thousand dollars. In basketball, you're seeing it too,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: where there are coaches going kid averages four points a
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: game once two hundred thousand dollars, Like that's happening all
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: the time. The reason this story hits so big is
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: because one, it was a whole lot of money and
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: it was a big program. But the same exact situation
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: is happening all over the country, just not as much
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: money or as big a program. So this is not
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: an anomaly. This is everywhere. And I don't feel bad for
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Nico because if you make a business decision, you have
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: to now deal with the consequences of it. He didn't
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: do anything illegal, He did nothing wrong. Now, you could
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: be a college football fan and purists like I feel
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: like I am, but I also understand the current environment
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: of athletes have been screwed over for fifty years and
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: not making money, so the pendulum has swung the complete
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: opposite way now. But how it's going to change is
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: going to be the lawmakers changing it, not the nc DOUBLEA.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: They've lost all their power, not the schools. If they
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: go no, they're just not going to get the athletes.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Then they're not going to make the revenue, and without
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: the revenue, they're not going to pay for anything. And
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: it's a revenue base model.
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I don't think the NCUBA even cares to
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: be honest.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: I think the NCAA cares a ton that they lost
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: the ability, well that yes, to actually do anything about it.
• 53:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that but at this point they're kind of like
• 53:37
  Speaker 7: handed tied to b hinterback. We mess this up now, Yes,
• 53:40
  Speaker 7: now it's just like, you know what, no matter what,
• 53:42
  Speaker 7: people are going to watch, whether wherever Nico goes, they're
• 53:44
  Speaker 7: still going to watch. Vals fans are going to be
• 53:45
  Speaker 7: Valls fans, and they'll move on. But it's just not
• 53:48
  Speaker 7: a good look.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: But I believe there can also be a slow deterioration.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: We still have a baseball. Baseball slowly sucked and I
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: love baseball, but it was not people just stopped watching.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: The product just got worse. The lockout. You don't think
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: the lockouts are baseball terribly. I mean, had it not
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: been for Sosa Maguire's home run Chase, I don't know,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: baseball would have bounced back five, six, seven years.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: So the hey, they're just going to watch because they're
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: fans of X, Y and Z. That's fun. But two
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: to three percent this person doesn't watch it as much
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: that it does. After years start to accumulate to the
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: point of we have accumulated so many people that do
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: not watch as much as they used to. It does
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: affect the product. Yeah, but that's when people are gonna
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: have to step in like these lawmakers, because the only
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: reason politicians change rules or laws is for money. This
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: is a very money based situation. Nico didn't do anything wrong.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: Nico made a terrible decision and now he's gonna have
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: to suffer the consequences. Except he's not because he's still
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: going to get more money at a different school than
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: he was getting at Tennessee. So he actually did it
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: right according to the sandboxer are allowed to play in.
• 54:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I just feel kind of bad for him. I
• 54:53
  Speaker 7: know it's his decision, but he's kind of like, now
• 54:56
  Speaker 7: the whole world is on his back watching and wherever
• 54:59
  Speaker 7: he goes, wherever that may. And he's a hell of
• 55:00
  Speaker 7: a player, but it's just gonna be hard to recover
• 55:03
  Speaker 7: from that.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: I feel pretty bad for him. Yeah, because he obviously
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: so he redshirted. He was a retro freshman last year,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: so he's twenty and twenty one. He obviously has his
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: dad or whomever guiding him in a direction. He's also
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: an adult, but he's a very young adult. Yeah, I
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: do feel bad for him, Yeah, as bad as you
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: felt for somebody who's twenty. It's going to make three
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: four million.
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: Bucks, I know. I get that part of it. But
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: at the end of the day, like.
• 55:32
  Speaker 7: He really wherever, whether it's usc some people were saying
• 55:34
  Speaker 7: ucla kind of thing. If he goes there and just
• 55:36
  Speaker 7: kills it, then he'll be able.
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: To shut everybody up for sure. But if he doesn't,
• 55:39
  Speaker 6: then it's just like told you, well.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: We're gonna find out the value at as far as
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: what the school is going to pay him, and then
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: we're going to watch the performance to go. I wonder
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: if it's worth three and a half million dollars. What's
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: interesting to me is the kid at Vegas UNLV just
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: dropped out midway through the season because he wasn't getting
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: his nil money. And everybody's like, ah, we hate him,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: we hate him. Don't remember his name, no, but we'll
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: remember this because one, he has a cool name.
• 56:04
  Speaker 10: Ko.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he has a cool name and to a much bigger,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: high profile program. But this other dude dropped at mid season.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Had Nico dropped out mid season, this had been a
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: nuclear bomb, way bigger than this. Oh yeah, so this
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: is business. And also, let's imagine this is the only
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: time he gets to make money playing football. Why not
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: make his the most you possibly can In the years
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: that you can. I'm not gonna hate anybody for trying
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: to get the most money they can get. Now, I
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: love college football, and you're like, oh, it's ruining it, Okay,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: But if I were eighteen nineteen, I don't know his
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: family situation. But if I were eighteen nineteen, like I
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: grew up playing football, you don't think I'm looking for money.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: I grew up poor as crap. A lot of these
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: athletes grew up poor as crap, and this may be
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: the only time they can make money to set them
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: up for the rest of their life. And we're going
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: to look at them and goad bad player because they're
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: not doing anything illegal. It's completely within the rules what's allowed.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: It makes them bad guys because this is our favorite team.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: They're wearing clothes with our colors on it.
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 57:04
  Speaker 7: Or I'm interested to see if wherever he does go, like,
• 57:06
  Speaker 7: how does that fan base accept him?
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Oh? I love them, I know, until you realize he's
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: making three and a half four million. It suck.
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: It's and he throws three picks in one game.
• 57:14
  Speaker 10: And.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: That's the nature of it. But when is it going
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: to change? It's going to change whenever the lobbyists are
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: investing their time because money's invested into them to go
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: to the lawmakers to get contracts for these players.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: So when you say lawmakers like the same dudes that
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: do like wear your seat belt when you're driving.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about like the house. It's going to have
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: to be something there. The Supreme Court is the one
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: who changed in il because again Ed O'Bannon on the
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: video game is like, that's me.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: They're not paying me for that.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: So that's how it's going to change. But these stories
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: need to happen. Everyone's like, I hate it. I hate it. No,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: bring them all. I want to see like fifty disasters
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: in a row because I don't like the model now.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: The model now sucks, so we need something to break
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: the model. And nobody ever fixes anything that's kind of broke.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: If you don't have to, you just kind of put
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: a band aid on it and keep going. My dryer
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: if it ain't like real broke, broke, or I can
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: kick it and get it to go. I'm not gonna
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: get a new dryer if it's completely dead, I going,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: oh my god, Okay, fine, I'll get a new driver.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: And that's what that's gonna be. That's the investment into
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: lobbyists into changing the actual laws. Now nil and portal,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: although they in the ven diagram crossed in a lot
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: of ways, are not exactly the same thing. But I
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: think if you're going to pay players, and the schools
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: are now going to pay players with revenue sharing, so
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: that should all be disclosed and that should be contractual.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Now the problem that's where the NCAA is gonna have
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: to come in because that's from the school So that's
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: the NA being involved again. But I think these contracts
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: should be two years, three years. I think you should
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: get one transfer. I think everybody should be able to
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: transfer once. But what's happening is you can transfer every year.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: It's free agency every year. Even pros don't get that.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: So this is gonna happen right now. This is like
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: sports twenty forty years ago, but the exact opposite, when
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: there was no free agency and you weren't able to
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: just go and they had to literally pass legislation to
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: get players the opportunity to see how much there are
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: worth to go to other teams. So things have to
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: get really bad before they fix them, generally in life,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: and that's what's happening here. And oddly I'm team Nico.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: I'm glad to see Joshipeil do that though I thought
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: it was great. Yeah, like it sets a precedent for
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: other schools. We are not going to be held out on,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: so you can just go. But two things can exist
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: at the same time. If I'm a player, I'm gonna
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: get the most money I possibly can. If that's my motivation,
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the most money I possibly can because
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: that is what's allowed in this environment. If I'm a coach,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna set my culture one way or the other one.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: You ain't gonna hold out. We're gonna pay good players
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: because we're supposed to. We're allowed to. But two, if
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: it is detrimental to the team and you're holding out
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: making yourself bigger than the team, you go mm hmm.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Or the culture can be we just have a bunch
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: of money, Ohio State, do whatever you want. We're gonna
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: pay everybody all And that works too.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 6: But I don't even I don't know if Ryan Day
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 6: would let that either, but he wouldn't.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: It wouldn't get to that point. He would pay him yeah,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: or he would just say go ahead and go. I
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: think that would be the thing where Nico was like, oh,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: I can hold out and get more money, because they
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: weren't like just going no, just go ahead and leave,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: because they had said they were reevaluating his contract before
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: this ever came out.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 7: I wonder how long it's been in the works. I
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 7: guess because it would happen so fast. It was like
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 7: one day reevaluating, the next day he's gone.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: It always happens a lot slower than what we hear
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: and what happened right you.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 6: It has probably been going on since the off season started.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: I don't hate anybody here. I'm kind of happy happened
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: in Tennessee though. So there you go.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 6: What if he goes to Arkansas.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: He won't. We can't go to the anybody transferring the spring.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: He'll go back home toward home. He'll get UCLA or USC.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: Dan Landing calls him.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Well, what if Landing was the ultimate mastermind?
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 6: Yes, exactly.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: So.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: When I was a kid, once a year we made
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: the voyage to Little Rock. It was about an hour
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: drive and my stepdad would take me to watch the
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: Arkansas Travelers and they were the double A team, but
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: they were our team. They were also the reason that
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: everybody in Arkansas a Saint Louis Cardinals fan because it
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: fed into the Cardinals. So all of Arkansas was a
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Cardinals fan. Obviously. I was a Cubs fan, obviously, just
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: because of the contrarian that I am. And we were
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: talking about the first person we ever got an autograph from,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: and I mentioned the name John Lepley, who was a
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: pitcher and I bothered him as a kid, and I
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: was like, we signed this ball and and I have
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: had the autograph forever, and so we just talked about it,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: and a listener of the podcast named Eric said, Hey,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: I know John Lepley. We tried to call John Lepley
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: based on LinkedIn, and now he's on with us. Now
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: here is John Lepley.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 9: This is you.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: I'm humbled.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: This is crazy.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 9: Thank you.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Well, uh yeah, this to me, this is while because
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: your baseball card, this is the exact one that I
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: had as well. So okay, let's start first of all
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: with you. Now, are you living in Boston, Massachusetts.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 10: No, we live in Savannah. We actually moved last summer,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 10: so that may be part of the reason it was
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 10: hard to get a hold of me. But as I
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 10: told your producer, I always returned people's calls within twenty
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 10: four hours, so it would be very unusual for me
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 10: not to return your DM.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Hey yea, I was talking on Boston, like John Leplike,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: anybody nobody in Boston. We'll get back. So and so
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: when you were playing for the Travelers, you were a pitcher.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Were you left handed? You're a left handed pitcher?
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 10: Right, yes, I'm left handed. Very fortunately I was left handed.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: And what can you walk me through your baseball career?
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: So out of high school? Did you get drafted? You
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: play college ball? What happened there?
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 10: So I went to a Jesuit all boys school in Omaha,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 10: Nebraska called Criatin Prep. We had good success there, had
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 10: a scholarship to go to University Nebraska, great opportunity.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: I was a three year starter there.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 10: When I left, I ended up breaking the first strakeout record,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 10: which at this point it's been shattered. But I'm on
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 10: the board there somewhere, maybe five or six now. But
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 10: so I think about my senior year. Really it was
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 10: my junior we had a new pitching coach come in
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 10: and really, you know, early on I was just a thrower,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 10: you know, good fastball, but my curveball was my outpitch,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 10: and he taught me really how to pitch, you know.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: Like you know, just how to pitch with purpose.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 10: He was really big into us watching other teams batting practice,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 10: and he would just like just point out, look at
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 10: these guys are failing seventy seventy five percent of the time,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 10: and this is batting practice. They know what pitch is coming.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 10: So we tried to like empower us and Coach Pratt
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 10: was just great. He just taught me a ton about
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 10: pitching about watching. I got to be such a better pitcher.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 10: So I think come my senior year, I was doing
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 10: well close to the strikeout record.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: I think I started getting attention from scouts.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 10: And at the time, if you know, the Cardinals really
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 10: drafted a lot of left handed pitchers, so being left
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 10: handed was it.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: Was very fortunate.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: So you go and you start with the Hamilton Redbirds.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: Is that like rookie ball a ball?
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 10: Yeah, yep, up in Hamilton, Ontario, And that's a weird
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 10: place to play ball because the weather just feels cold.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: It just feels like it's going to be cold there regardless.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think they love baseball up there.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 10: So as part of the new York penn team, so
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 10: we'd come back down into the States and play in
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 10: Buffalo and Erie, Pennsylvania. But fortunately I was only there
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 10: maybe three weeks. I was fortunate, do real well. I
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 10: didn't give up any runs, a bunch of strikeouts. So
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 10: then I moved on.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: To Savannah, the same Savannah you're in now, the same
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: Savannah now. And any reason is are they connected at all?
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: Did you like fall in love of the city just
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: having to get a job there again, No, I.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: Met my wife the first day when I moved here.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's cool, that's crazy. Okay.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: So on the July.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 10: Second, On July second was the last game I pitched
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 10: in Hamilton. After that game, myself and our second baseman
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 10: Mike Ross, got called into the manager's office and yes,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 10: I don't know. I thought I was doing well. He's like,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 10: I'm picking you up tomorrow mor than at five am.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 10: You guys are both going to Savannah tomorrow. So later
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 10: that day and I found out and you probably have
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 10: heard stories, and families are just there's just certain families
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 10: that love baseball, they want to be around the sport,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 10: and they know the minor league players don't make a lot.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 9: So what I.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 10: Learned is that on a lot of Sundays we'd play
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 10: in Savannah, that is, at one o'clock game, and typically
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 10: a family would have like a cookout or a barbecue
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 10: or something for the for the players, like at four
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 10: thirty five. And it just so happens my wife's parents,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 10: Meredith's parents, were throwing a shrip boil that afternoon at
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 10: a park and I met Meredith that day.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: That's funny, that's crazy, that's awesome story. But you weren't
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: with Savannah that long though, because in the same year
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: it was Hamilton Savannah and then you were at double
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: A with the Travelers. How long were you with Savannah?
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: I was with Savannah for three weeks.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: Dah, you were on then, like you had to feel
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: good then?
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 9: I was?
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 10: I was, Yeah. I was pitching well. I was a
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 10: relief pitcher and I was not a high draft pick.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 10: But my coach in college just said, listen, if you
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 10: get when you got when I got draftees, like, I
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 10: don't care if they asked you to pitch the fourth inning,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 10: the eighth inning, just take the ball and try to dominate.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 10: And it's usually the higher draft picks or the starter.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 10: So when I got the opportunity to pitch whatever ending
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 10: I was just and then they slowly saw that I
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 10: did well towards the end of the game.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: So I would typically.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 10: Pitch like the seventh, eighth, or you know, sometimes i'd
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 10: pitched maybe the ninth ending.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: If they had a left handed batter coming.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 10: Up first, I pitched to that matter, hopefully get them out,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 10: and then they bring in the closer.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: And you were the Travelers for a few years. At
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: what point did you go, Okay, how does it work?
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: As you're double A and from looking at your career,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: I know you played ball in Venezuela. Did you do
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: that after the Travelers or when did you go so
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: I'm going to stop playing baseball?
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 10: Yeah, So in nineteen eighty eight, when I had kind
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 10: of a good year or whatever after or kind of
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 10: during that August period when I was with the Travelers,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 10: they invited me to come to instructional ball where they
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 10: take the top thirty prospects or thirty two prospects of
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 10: the organization. So I went to Saint Pete like mid
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 10: to late September. We played like thirty forty games and
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 10: I did well there. I had a really good fall
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 10: and so I get home probably in November.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: I'm just kind of working out. I'm not throwing anymore.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 10: I'm really exhausted because I had a college season and
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 10: then then kind of went right into the prole and
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 10: I get a call God, I think it was like
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 10: December twentieth from the director player development, and he said,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 10: there's a spot in Arabo, in Venezuela, and we'd like
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 10: you to get down there and pitch and be a
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 10: relief pitcher for them for the remainder of the season.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. What kind of culture shock was that
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: for you to go down there and do that.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 10: I mean, it's it's a gorgeous country. Boy there, it's
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 10: a poor country. Our dollar at the time was fifties
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 10: to theirs. Their boliviar and they love baseball. They just
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 10: love baseball down there. So all they could they could
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 10: invite like seven Americans, so we all stayed in this
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 10: one hotel together. Actually, you make a little bit more
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 10: money in winter ball. They pay you cash and then
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 10: they pay your expenses, and it was just a great experience,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 10: a lot of baseball. I think I mentioned your producer.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 10: Our short stop at the time was Davey Concepcion, who
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 10: would in his eighteenth year of playing for the Reds.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 10: But he grew up in Ragua. And what I learned
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 10: is a lot of those players Caracas, Arraguo, wherever they
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 10: in the offseason, they would play not the full season,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 10: but they would play, you know, three games a week
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 10: so the fans could see him in action, because a
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 10: lot of these people didn't have TVs and couldn't see
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 10: their you know, their hero play.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: Did you ever in any sort because you never got
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: to Memphis? I don't think right, because were the Redbirds?
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: So when did it? When did it end for you?
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: Was it an injury or was it a realization? Like
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: how did ball end for you?
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: Two things.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 10: One when I went into when I got drafted, I
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 10: had my college degree, so I felt good about that
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 10: and I told myself then I go.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: I either have to be in Triple A or in
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: the big leagues.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 10: In four years or I just want to be done,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 10: like I want to move on with my life.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: And I was in Triple A camp every.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 10: Year and if you saw my card I we played
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 10: like one hundred and twenty seven games for a full season.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 10: I I you know, both years I played full seasons
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 10: there is. I pitched in fifty nine at the game,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 10: so I could. I was like a workhorse. I could
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 10: you could count on me to be in there. But
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 10: then in ninety one in spring training, I was in
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 10: Triple A camp. I'm until like three days before they
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 10: broke camp and everybody went their ways and I got
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 10: called into the director player development and he said, we're
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 10: sending you back to Little Rock. So I just said why. First,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 10: I said, I'm getting Triple A guys out. I'm getting
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 10: some big leaguers out when I go been playing in Venezuela.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 5: Can you just give me an opportunity. I just said,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 5: give me a month there.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 10: I'll pay my way there, I'll pay my way home,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 10: but give me a chance to go and pitch them up.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: And he's like, no, you're going back to Little Rock.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 10: So yeah, so how it ended. How it ended? Was
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 10: our last one of the road trips, and I think
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 10: was mid late June was to Midland, Texas. We're playing
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 10: the Angels, and I didn't know my this is gonna
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 10: be my last day, but I got asked. They got
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 10: me warmed up in the bullpen. I went in in
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 10: the eighth inning. We were down by I think two
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 10: runs and we ended up scoring the next ending like
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 10: I don't know, like four or five. So they're like,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 10: go out and pitch the ninth. So what's kind of
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 10: funny is my last professional game. I actually got the
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 10: w so which was me. The next morning, I get
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 10: the call from the manager. He's like, we're making a
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 10: switch sleptly. We got your plane ticket already, and you
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 10: know your rides to the airport were sending you back
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 10: to Little Rock to pack up, and we wish you
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 10: all the best.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: Do the people that work for you now and work
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: with you know, Like, is that that you were like
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: a legit ballplayer?
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 5: Not really? I mean I've yeah, I don't really shy
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 5: that much about it.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: It's all. It'd be my full identity, John, It's everything.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: I have my baseball cards to fall out of my
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: pocket at random time everywhere. Yeah, yeah, I'd have tons
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: of Oh it'd always be a story relating to my
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: time back in the minors. So whenever Eric told you, hey,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: they were talking about you, were you like, No, that's weird.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 5: I go, that is wild.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: I go.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 10: I just said to him, I said, we signed so
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 10: many autographs, and I mean that was part of our job,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 10: and I enjoyed it. I mean, I love kids in
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 10: college just to kind of break up the monotony for.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: Baseball the time and school.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 10: Like I worked at an on campus daycare center twice
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 10: a week and just a couple of hours, but it
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 10: was fun to just interact with these kids, read to them,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 10: and you know, just it just it probably helped me
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 10: more than to help the kids.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're my first ever autograph from any professional athlete ever.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: And so it's super cool because the card again, this
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: is the card that I had. Would give out the
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: cards for free or you could buy them impacts of
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: the whole team. And so I had all the cards.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: And what do you do now, athletic? Are you still
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: like active? You still play sports at all?
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I play ust a tennis like golf. I meant
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 10: just at the gym earlier this morning. I probably work
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 10: out six days a week. Yeah, I try to stay active.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: How about you sandbag people? They're like, well, here's this guy.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: He's like, do you know works as a business guy?
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: Didn't tell him he's a minor league ball player, like
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: played a super high level. Are you so at the
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: UTU U t U s t a tennis Like that's
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: like a ranking system, Like I have a handicap right,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: Like again, is that what that is at tennis? I
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: saw you like you're playing amongst people and you have
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: like a ranking.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 10: Yes, yeah, my ranking is a four point zero. It
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 10: goes four or five and typically five o's or well,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 10: I mean you're high high level college tennis. But I
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 10: played with some four or five guys, but mainly they
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 10: just keep the group about four to zero, which is fun.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 10: It's get a good workout, it's not it doesn't take
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 10: a long time to two and a half hours and
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 10: your match.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 5: Is done and it's all good. It's we're not playing
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 5: for money.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: So do you ever play a real man sport pickleball?
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: I tried it a few times. Yeah, I mean.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 10: I mean a big ping pong player, So I mean
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 10: I'm like, this is just like ping pong, it's just
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 10: a little bit bigger.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a real man's sports. I like to college. Well, John,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate your time. This is super cool for me.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 5: Thank you man. I'm humbled.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 10: I'm honored to be on your podcast. It's so nice
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 10: you to invite me.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: And and I love Savannah know you lived there. I
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: love Savannah. They show Forrest Gump there, which I'm sure
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: you know, and we we went down when I was
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: on American Idol. I did four years on Idol, and
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: we would go down to Savanna and shoot on shoot
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: on idol, and so I got to know Savannah. I've
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: been there a couple of times at Little Park and
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: they have the bench where Forrest was sitting on. Yeah,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a beautiful city. So except we.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 10: Got if you want it, we'd take you out in
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 10: the boat and go have loud somewhere or just cruise
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 10: around whatever.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 5: If you're ever done here, please give a shout.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: Dang, that's crazy, that sounds fun. First I have autographed
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: like come hang out with me those guys. John, I
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for your time. I hope you
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: have a great rest of the day. And this has
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: been really.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 5: Cool for me. Yeah, thank you so much.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: All right, Jo, all the best to you, See you man,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: take care. You spoke with a Twitter pickleball guy.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I heard back from him. Okay, A guy got
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 7: back to me messages me. He asked, Hey, is Bobby
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 7: like looking for just content or does he actually want
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 7: to play for a thousand dollars.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: What is happening?
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy would be my bff.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 7: Now yeah, and I'm like, well, one, we're going to
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 7: record it so we'll get content out of it for
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 7: the show.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 6: But it's also four thousand.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: The whole point was, dude trolled me out of nowhere,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, let's play for a thousand bucks. Then
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: mister troll, let's go. And he's like, I'm in. And
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: then I'm like, cool, let's get a lawyer and set
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: it up so nobody gets scammed disappears. No, I'm trying
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: to be content friendship.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 9: Like.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: The whole point is if you're going to control people
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: like show up. Well, I did stuck when I found
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: out he was a four year D one athlete. I'm
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: not gonna lie like. That was a realization I did
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: not like. And I was like, I'm in, I'm in,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: let's get in.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: Check it out.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 6: You held your ground.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: If I show up and lose, that's okay. I still
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: want to be the guy that shows up whenever the
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: troll trolls. I want to meet that. No, I'm not
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: doing it to be buddy buddy content and let's afterward
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: have a hug.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 6: No, I told him, I said, this is legit for
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 6: a thousand bucks.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: It's not going to be your see. I already feel
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: like I feel like this has lost its edge. Yeah,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: he's back pedaling, right, because even if it happens now,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: we're like forcing them into it now.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 7: No, there's there's an endgame here. He said, Well, I
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 7: got kids, I'm busy when you guys thinking, And I said,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 7: and I said, just let us know, like for the
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 7: next month, some open day till we'll try to figure
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 7: something out.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 6: And then he said, I'm good. Thanks. He's he's out. O,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 6: my gosh.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: We got strung along.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 6: He's out.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 8: Well he could have messaged back like a month ago.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: No, because he was embarrassed. This is what a troll does.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: A troll talks a bunch of crap and then doesn't
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: show up. What's his Twitter name? Oh no, Scott right.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: Everybody sent him a message just kidding, like, do you
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: think I wanted to hold and go? Yeah? You know what,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: I'm still gonna go and play. When I found out
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: he was a Division one athlete for four years who
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: was running iron Man's no, I would have loved to
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: have backed out, but I'm like, if a troll's gonna
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: come to me, I'm gonna go, even if I lose.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: And then he backs out like this, you little pud,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: I'm good.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 6: Thanks, Jason Scott wrestling, you little pud.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: Wow, I'm good. First he it's you with it. I
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: got kids, I'm busy. This would have never happened had
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: he not been the one to go. Let's go set
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: it up, right, I know.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: So do you think the whole ghosting, the silence part
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: is just him scared wondering how he's gonna back out
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: of this.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah, because once he replied and then it took one
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 7: day to figure this all out and be like, oh,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 7: I'm good.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 6: Thanks.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: I'm so disappointed and him yeah.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: You're good.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: I cannot but that is very disappointing.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 6: I know it's gonna say.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: He's looking forward to that.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: It's gonna save me money for him to fly.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: All that's true.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, then you're the winner, dude, you're the winner. Good, dude,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: be forfeited.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: I'm a little disappointed by that. Okay. I guess with
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: that we can wrap Mike.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's terrible way to go. Everyone's everyone's bummed.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, thank you for being here. Everybody stupid. Thanks to
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: Sean Michaels, Thanks to John Lepley. I can't believe he
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: backed out like that. I think better to back out
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: is just disappear again, like just ghost forever, instead of
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: admitting your putt, because he basically said I'm a putt. Yeah,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: please allow me to put all over you.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 7: He tried to get us to say like, oh, never mind,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 7: it's all good. And then once I once he realized like, no,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 7: we actually want to do this, he's like, I'm good.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 9: Thanks.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 6: So yeah, he tried to.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: I gotta go public on Twitter with this one. The
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: freaking little loser he is. Okay, that's it. We'll see
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: you guys later on. Thank you very much. Thanks to
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: Sean Michael, thanks to John Lepley, Thanks to Nico, Thanks
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: thanks to Rory. Thanks you, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: that's it, Eddie blow the whistle. All right, We'll see
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: you guys later on. By theme song written by Bobby
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: Bones That's Me and performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: on socials at Brandon Ray Music. You can follow the
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: show on Instagram at Bobby Bone Sports. Thanks to our
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: crew co host at producer Ready segment producer at Kickoff Kevin,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: video producer at Redrberry, and executive producer at Mike Diestro.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: But most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on twenty five
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: whistles