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Episode 59. D*ck Measuring in the Underworld & Anton Chigurh vs. Clever Girl (Feat. Eric Leland, Author) · High n' Dry Podcast

0:15
SPEAKER_03: That little live thing we do occasionally.
0:17
SPEAKER_03: Um we really like he was just saying we need a producer to rein us the fuck in.
0:21
SPEAKER_03: Uh we don't we're all over the place and you know we just keep it casual.
0:25
SPEAKER_03: It's very off the cuff.
0:25
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
0:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
0:26
SPEAKER_03: Just trying and you know, it it's like this stuff's difficult.
0:29
SPEAKER_03: Everyone's got a job, and we're trying to write books, trying to do all those sorts of things.
0:32
SPEAKER_00: And it's like, you know, who's got the time?
0:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I saw that you uh you on your on your Instagram it says uh horror romance writer?
0:40
SPEAKER_03: Like that's uh well I mean uh well I've never been asked.
0:47
SPEAKER_03: So it's um so I take uh horrible, terrible things, and I try and you know use that to shine a light on you know leftover toxic traits that we kind of picked up in society, and then you know, I try and you know explain you know how those things interact with you know the way we love each other.
1:07
SPEAKER_03: Um some sometimes it's beautiful and then sometimes it breaks down.
1:12
SPEAKER_03: And um, but I always try and add a little hint of you know the romantic side of these things that we're dealing with, you know.
1:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's interesting.
1:20
SPEAKER_03: And at the end I say we just give some therapy.
1:22
SPEAKER_03: Everyone needs a little bit of therapy.
1:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:25
SPEAKER_03: We've so I'm looking at my high and what my high west, I don't keep point, I keep wanting to call it high and west, but high west whiskey here, and it's got a cowboy on the front.
1:34
SPEAKER_03: We've never done a western character.
1:37
SPEAKER_03: That's true, and I think that would be fun to kind of deconstruct on.
1:39
SPEAKER_02: Do you like westerns, Eric?
1:41
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
1:41
SPEAKER_00: Well, Blood Meridian's a Western, and uh No Country for Old Men's a Western.
1:46
SPEAKER_03: Um, we could do someone with no oh no country for old men with Javier Bardas.
1:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Javier's character.
1:52
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, yeah.
1:53
SPEAKER_00: That would be cool.
1:54
SPEAKER_00: Um sugar, Anton Sugar.
1:57
SPEAKER_00: Anton Sugar, that's okay.
1:58
SPEAKER_03: All right, I like it.
1:59
SPEAKER_03: I like it.
2:00
SPEAKER_03: Um, versus could he fight?
2:03
SPEAKER_03: Um who's kind of silly.
2:05
SPEAKER_02: So Phil J.
2:06
SPEAKER_02: Fry.
2:07
SPEAKER_02: So he so he carries around.
2:11
SPEAKER_02: I mean, they just got picked up for two more seasons.
2:13
SPEAKER_02: He carries around the cattle uh uh brainer, right?
2:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he carries that around.
2:19
SPEAKER_02: Um what if he fought uh Heifer from Rocco's Modern Life?
2:28
SPEAKER_02: So then there's a new Jurassic World coming out.
2:31
SPEAKER_02: What if we do Anton Shagur versus um uh Chris Pratt's character from the new Jurassic Park from the Jurassic World franchise?
2:39
SPEAKER_00: I I've never seen any of the new Jurassic Park.
2:41
SPEAKER_02: Oh, you never see any of them?
2:42
SPEAKER_02: They're not great, they're really bad.
2:44
SPEAKER_02: It's like the character is not.
2:45
SPEAKER_00: If you want to do like uh Alan Grant from the first one, then sure.
2:50
SPEAKER_02: The Veloci the Velociraptor from the first one.
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SPEAKER_02: The main Velociraptor.
2:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there you go.
2:58
SPEAKER_00: All right, well, that would be good.
3:00
SPEAKER_00: That would be good because they're they're pack hunters, and if it's a one-on-one, then yeah, that changes it up a little bit.
3:06
SPEAKER_00: Even that's the Velociraptor.
3:08
SPEAKER_02: We can't have two weeks in a row or the person doesn't have friends again.
3:11
SPEAKER_03: Well, the Velociraptors, they well, so he Yeah, the Velociraptor will have friends.
3:16
SPEAKER_02: Anton Shugur will not.
3:18
SPEAKER_00: Well, Anton Shugur.
3:19
SPEAKER_00: So the problem with Anton is that whenever he meets a friend or someone that's helping him, he fucking kills him.
3:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
3:25
SPEAKER_03: Well, I think it'd bring like Norman Bates, you know, Anton Shugur and Norman Bates.
3:29
SPEAKER_03: This is what I mean.
3:30
SPEAKER_03: I think we've started discussing it, so I think we found it.
3:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, okay.
3:33
SPEAKER_03: Well, there you have it, folks.
3:36
SPEAKER_03: The Velociraptor from Jurassic War.
3:39
SPEAKER_03: Not to be confused with the T-Rex.
3:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we had the T-Rex already.
3:43
SPEAKER_02: It was Black Widow versus the T-Rex.
3:45
SPEAKER_03: Oh really?
3:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
3:47
SPEAKER_03: It was a solid fight.
3:48
SPEAKER_03: It was a great fight.
3:50
SPEAKER_03: All right, well, uh, so everyone out there listening, welcome to High and Dry Podcast, the only podcast where we do all of our own stunts.
3:58
SPEAKER_03: I'm your host, Ryan Barron North with me as always, James Crosslin.
4:01
SPEAKER_03: James, what's going on?
4:02
SPEAKER_03: Not much.
4:03
SPEAKER_03: We just decided who was gonna fight.
4:05
SPEAKER_02: That was such nonsense.
4:06
SPEAKER_02: You just went right into the intro.
4:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
4:08
SPEAKER_02: Uh things are going well.
4:10
SPEAKER_02: Uh it's been uh it's a three-day weekend.
4:13
SPEAKER_02: Hell yeah, President's Day.
4:15
SPEAKER_02: Thanks for thanks for being presidents, I guess.
4:18
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
4:19
SPEAKER_02: Everyone's a criminal in that position.
4:21
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what to say.
4:22
SPEAKER_02: Um but uh but otherwise, great weekend.
4:25
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, it's other than that, it's going really good.
4:27
SPEAKER_03: Um, and then well, joining us this week, we have author Eric Leland.
4:31
SPEAKER_03: Eric, what's going on, man?
4:32
SPEAKER_03: How are you doing?
4:32
SPEAKER_03: Thanks for coming on.
4:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, thanks for having me.
4:35
SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, just a kind of a normal day here in Seattle.
4:39
SPEAKER_00: Raining and Seattle.
4:42
SPEAKER_03: We mentioned on when you and I were talking, I I've the Seattle's the last place in this country I really haven't gone to, and I really want to.
4:48
SPEAKER_03: Pacific Northwest is super cool.
4:50
SPEAKER_00: It's got its uh the city has its charm, and uh, but you know, we just we have every kind of biome imaginable.
4:58
SPEAKER_00: So if you're into hiking or uh spelunking or swimming, or you know, like we just miles of coastline.
5:05
SPEAKER_00: Um it's a great place.
5:07
SPEAKER_00: I love it.
5:07
SPEAKER_00: I'm from New York originally, and uh my wife grew up here.
5:10
SPEAKER_00: So when we were looking for a place to settle down, you know, we compromised and came to Seattle.
5:16
SPEAKER_02: So I hear like you have legit rainforests in in Washington.
5:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh this we we go camping out in uh the whole rainforests quite quite often.
5:26
SPEAKER_00: It's kind of in the shadow of uh Mount Olympus in the Olympic Mountains.
5:30
SPEAKER_00: Um it's awesome.
5:31
SPEAKER_00: I love it.
5:32
SPEAKER_03: That's awesome.
5:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, so yeah, we're from Vegas over here.
5:35
SPEAKER_03: Um and actually when we were talking, you said you had a Nevada story, which I'm still curious about.
5:40
SPEAKER_00: So we moved from uh um Georgia to Washington, and uh we bought a motorhome to make the the drive and um you know just to see the United States while we were making our move.
5:55
SPEAKER_00: And it was December of you know 2017 or so.
5:58
SPEAKER_00: So anyway, um I've I've been across the north and I was just like, yeah, we'll take a southern route because there'll be no snow.
6:06
SPEAKER_00: And I would, you know, stupid me highlighting my idiocy right now.
6:10
SPEAKER_00: I was thinking in two dimensions rather than three, and I forgot to uh take into account the elevation of the fucking Sierra Nevada mountains.
6:18
SPEAKER_02: So free runs.
6:21
SPEAKER_00: We uh we make our we make our our our pass through Vegas heading out towards Death Valley, and then we turn north to uh to start going through uh Nevada and up into Oregon and then into Washington.
6:35
SPEAKER_00: And it's amazing how like just a four-hour drive you go from just Death Valley to a sign saying like snow chains required.
6:46
SPEAKER_00: I'm like I didn't bring any fucking snow chains, you know.
6:51
SPEAKER_02: You know you're getting close to Reno when you see the snow chains.
6:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I'm like, well, we can't turn around because we'll lose four hours and you know it's it's getting dark.
7:00
SPEAKER_00: So um we start traversing this mountain pass in this like 24-foot classy motor home.
7:08
SPEAKER_00: And like, you know, I was in the military, my wife was in the military, and like you when things are getting stressful, like our voices like very quiet, very calm, you know, and she's like, all right, right turn coming, turn, turn, turn, you know, and just like just white knuckle, and uh you can feel the vehicle like sliding under you towards these like cliffs with no guardrail.
7:33
SPEAKER_03: So anyway, it just disappears into nothing.
7:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but I I can't remember the name of the town that we we came into after this pass, but there's literally a sign that says, Congratulations, you survived.
7:46
SPEAKER_00: Right there.
7:48
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, long story short, we made it, but uh, yeah, so now in my motorhome I have snow chains.
7:54
SPEAKER_00: I had just ever like for every imaginable possibility, I I I'm prepared now.
8:00
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, no, so it's bizarre that around here, you occasionally like especially if you go up to Mount Charleston or something like that, you might need snow chains.
8:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but I think they got a rental.
8:07
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
8:08
SPEAKER_03: Well, uh, I'm glad you survived because now we got an episode to do.
8:13
SPEAKER_03: Thanks for providing us with content.
8:15
SPEAKER_02: You've served your purpose.
8:18
SPEAKER_03: So for those of you joining us for the first time, and just uh refreshing our guests on how this works, we start every episode off with a moral debate, a conundrum, a quandary.
8:27
SPEAKER_03: Um, and then it breaks down into a fist fight, as those things often do.
8:30
SPEAKER_03: But what makes us so special and unique is while we're doing all that, and before we get into it, we gotta get a little drunk and we gotta get a little high.
8:37
SPEAKER_03: Woo! Uh James, what are you smoking this week?
8:39
SPEAKER_02: Uh this week I've got a wonderful new concentrate.
8:44
SPEAKER_02: It is sugar.
8:46
SPEAKER_02: It's a sugar type concentrate.
8:47
SPEAKER_02: It's called Mendo Breath.
8:49
SPEAKER_02: It's a mix of Mendo cream and garlic breath.
8:51
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
8:52
SPEAKER_02: And it should be pretty enjoyable.
8:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I should.
8:54
SPEAKER_03: I think you're gonna enjoy yourself more than I did.
8:56
SPEAKER_03: Um, for those of you who watched our live video over on the Instagram, I'm gonna be joining you with high west whiskey.
9:02
SPEAKER_03: It tastes like the high west.
9:05
SPEAKER_02: It tastes like uh cowboy's ball sweat.
9:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, there you go.
9:10
SPEAKER_03: You could just you could feel his rough and tumble life as you drink in that.
9:15
SPEAKER_03: Um, and so uh Eric, uh, you're joining us as a drunken philosopher.
9:18
SPEAKER_03: What are you gonna be drinking this week?
9:20
SPEAKER_00: So I have Captain Morgan uh white rum um for no other reason than uh I don't drink very often.
9:29
SPEAKER_00: I just walked into the store, I said that looks fine.
9:32
SPEAKER_02: That'll do.
9:33
SPEAKER_02: This is this looks standard.
9:34
SPEAKER_02: I gotta get it.
9:35
SPEAKER_02: I gotta get drunk for a thing.
9:38
SPEAKER_02: This'll help.
9:39
SPEAKER_02: It will help you get drunk.
9:40
SPEAKER_03: Well, yeah.
9:41
SPEAKER_03: Let's pop them open, pour them up.
9:44
SPEAKER_02: I I'll be honest, Captain Morgan, I like is not bad.
9:47
SPEAKER_02: Not at all.
9:48
SPEAKER_02: Captain Morgan, if I'm gonna, especially if I'm gonna have a mixer and a drink, Captain Morgan is like a great mixer.
9:55
SPEAKER_02: Captain Morgan White is is an excellent uh uh run to just have.
9:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
10:00
SPEAKER_03: Well, cheers, guys.
10:01
SPEAKER_03: This first one going out to Carl Urban to share and to our newest guest, Eric Leland.
10:06
SPEAKER_03: Cheers.
10:07
SPEAKER_03: Cheers.
10:08
SPEAKER_02: Cheers, Eric.
10:09
SPEAKER_02: Oh, geez.
10:11
SPEAKER_02: Still on red.
10:11
SPEAKER_02: Give me a sec, everybody.
10:13
SPEAKER_03: That is that's double rye right there.
10:15
SPEAKER_00: That's uh that's quite the bong.
10:19
SPEAKER_00: Changes colors, eh?
10:21
SPEAKER_03: It's some space age shit over here.
10:24
SPEAKER_02: This is a uh this is an electric nail.
10:27
SPEAKER_02: It's an e-nail for concentrates.
10:30
SPEAKER_02: So it heats up like extracts to like I think it's around like 350 to 500 degrees, vaporizes them, then I inhale.
10:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, back when I was a kid, it was still illegal.
10:42
SPEAKER_00: And uh, so you know, we always made our bongs out of uh like just coke bottles.
10:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
10:50
SPEAKER_02: I have also done that, but you know, I've only ever smoked since it was legal.
10:55
SPEAKER_02: Um uh it became legal when I was 28 years old in Nevada, and then I and I was like, let's get on it.
11:02
SPEAKER_02: And uh and so I created I I made I tried to make a bong out of everything when I started because I was like, I want the I want the experience.
11:11
SPEAKER_02: We we totally did fruit.
11:12
SPEAKER_02: I was like, ah yes, I'm gonna do an apple bong.
11:15
SPEAKER_02: And it it it was great.
11:16
SPEAKER_02: I thought it was awesome.
11:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we had somebody make a carrot pipe or a bowl.
11:25
SPEAKER_00: That's great.
11:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
11:31
SPEAKER_00: Dave Chappelle had right.
11:32
SPEAKER_00: You really turn into MacGyver, you know.
11:35
SPEAKER_03: You gotta get drugs in your body.
11:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
11:37
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
11:38
SPEAKER_03: Well, well, that brings us into our second shot, second hitch, as we continue to poison ourselves.
11:45
SPEAKER_03: I continue to poison myself a little bit here.
11:47
SPEAKER_02: Um mine's medicine.
11:50
SPEAKER_03: Well, this second one goes out to our newest listeners.
11:53
SPEAKER_03: This is a little town called Prescott Nosley.
11:55
SPEAKER_03: It's a town in England.
11:57
SPEAKER_03: Here's to you guys.
11:58
SPEAKER_03: Cheers.
11:59
SPEAKER_02: Thanks, entire town.
12:01
SPEAKER_03: Cheers.
12:02
SPEAKER_03: I put it up on a big projector and just listened.
12:07
SPEAKER_03: It played on the uh tornado siren horns throughout the town.
12:14
SPEAKER_03: So it only counts as one town mode, but it was actually a huge.
12:21
SPEAKER_02: Maybe we can hit him with some kind of licensing lawsuit.
12:25
SPEAKER_03: I dry podcast sues the town of Prescott.
12:29
SPEAKER_03: We're a very aggressive litigator.
12:31
SPEAKER_02: Just be aware.
12:34
SPEAKER_03: Well, so that brings us to our third toast.
12:37
SPEAKER_03: This one is guest toast.
12:38
SPEAKER_03: Eric, what's it too?
12:40
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's me.
12:41
SPEAKER_00: Um, let's see.
12:42
SPEAKER_00: How about uh war veterans struggling to find meaning in their lives in the civilian world?
12:51
SPEAKER_03: Cheers to that.
12:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, cheers to that.
12:54
SPEAKER_02: Good luck, all you veterans out there.
12:57
SPEAKER_02: I would love some infrastructure to support you.
13:01
SPEAKER_03: We were just talking, but they're too busy uh, you know, talking about who said what on Facebook.
13:09
SPEAKER_03: Alright, that's that's enough high west for me.
13:12
SPEAKER_02: Social media is news now instead of like helping veterans, but whatever.
13:17
SPEAKER_02: I guess I guess I guess there's nothing we can do, right?
13:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
13:21
SPEAKER_00: Except to have another shot of high west whiskey.
13:24
SPEAKER_03: Double wrap.
13:26
unknown: You know what?
13:26
SPEAKER_00: That's kind of amazing how you know, like you find your support structure if you can't find it through the government, you know, and the uh the institutions that are you know supposed to be helping you.
13:37
SPEAKER_00: Uh the advent of social media really brings a lot of people together.
13:41
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, in that I guess in that respect, I'm appreciative of what it can provide.
13:46
SPEAKER_03: So true.
13:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, there's a there's a good and a bad to everything, you know.
13:50
SPEAKER_02: The internet has been a glorious information revolution, and and with that information revolution, there's that there have definitely been highs and lows.
14:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
14:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
14:02
SPEAKER_03: Well, I was saying the other day that uh having the internet on my phone, it's like having the Library of Alexandria just in my pocket.
14:09
SPEAKER_03: The only problem is the library decided to open their doors and just say, anyone who wrote anything, get it in here.
14:16
SPEAKER_03: Put it in here.
14:18
SPEAKER_00: It's knowledge now.
14:19
SPEAKER_00: If it's absurd or not, just bring it in.
14:21
SPEAKER_03: Don't care.
14:24
SPEAKER_02: We're turning this into a swap meet.
14:25
SPEAKER_02: But this man just shit in his hands and he's gonna bring it into the library.
14:30
SPEAKER_00: I like yeah, we got a section for that.
14:33
SPEAKER_00: Bring it in.
14:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's gonna have a viewership.
14:35
SPEAKER_00: That's what that is.
14:36
SPEAKER_02: People really come here for the shit.
14:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, just just file it under content.
14:42
SPEAKER_02: Bonja, give me the shit.
14:45
SPEAKER_03: All right, so that brings us to the first part of this podcast.
14:49
SPEAKER_03: It's time to get into a question.
14:50
SPEAKER_03: Um, so I have uh, you know, it's uh a little more fun, lighthearted.
14:54
SPEAKER_03: I know for people listening who are starting to go like, oh no, it's gonna be one of those.
14:58
SPEAKER_03: Um, we uh aren't going that way.
15:01
SPEAKER_03: It's gonna be more lighthearted.
15:04
SPEAKER_02: Um that's not you don't you don't know that for sure.
15:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, who knows?
15:09
SPEAKER_02: No matter what, when we end up talking about stuff, we end up dissecting it and being very critical.
15:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
15:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we're just a bunch of jaded guys.
15:19
SPEAKER_03: So let's do it.
15:19
SPEAKER_03: Woo! All right, so for the question I have for you guys, um, you're walking down the road, and this mythical creature leaps out of a bush.
15:28
SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
15:28
SPEAKER_03: He looks kind of like the honeycomb monster.
15:31
SPEAKER_03: Uh if you remember the commercial in the 90s.
15:33
SPEAKER_03: Honey crisps?
15:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, honey.
15:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
15:35
SPEAKER_03: It's like that big fluffy thing that wears tennis shoes.
15:37
SPEAKER_03: Well, he explains to you that, hey, I'm God, and we're trying some new stuff.
15:42
SPEAKER_03: Um I don't like the way the afterlife and the underworld are working.
15:47
SPEAKER_03: I'm putting you in charge.
15:49
SPEAKER_03: So you guys become the Hades, the Anubis of this universe.
15:54
SPEAKER_03: St.
15:54
SPEAKER_03: Peter.
15:55
SPEAKER_03: You're the Saint Peter.
15:56
SPEAKER_03: You decide what your underworld is like, who goes where, things of that nature.
16:03
SPEAKER_03: You know, if you have your own Hades or if you have your own hell.
16:06
SPEAKER_03: What determines when people go in there?
16:08
SPEAKER_03: What happens to them, and how do you run your own underworld?
16:14
SPEAKER_03: So, guests first, enjoy breaking that one down off the cuck.
16:20
SPEAKER_03: All right.
16:21
SPEAKER_00: So I have to I have to deconstruct hell and rebuild it to be what if efficient?
16:31
SPEAKER_00: It's up to you.
16:32
SPEAKER_02: Like, how how would you like to see this afterlife function and people get sorted and stuff like that?
16:38
SPEAKER_03: So you stand on the rainbow road and you say you go left, you go right.
16:42
SPEAKER_03: Um, and this dude walks into the underworld.
16:44
SPEAKER_03: What does he experience?
16:46
SPEAKER_03: You know, uh why is he there?
16:51
SPEAKER_00: Okay, all right.
16:52
SPEAKER_02: And you also get to decide like what those people experience and what the parameters are.
16:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and so so I'm I'm interested also to hear like so you have a very nice person who wandered through.
17:02
SPEAKER_03: What happens to them?
17:03
SPEAKER_03: And then you have like some freaking you have a child rapist walk through.
17:06
SPEAKER_03: What happens to them, you know?
17:08
SPEAKER_03: Um so please take us though.
17:12
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
17:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you couldn't have like given me an easy one.
17:17
SPEAKER_00: No.
17:18
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so um I guess the hard part is saying you either go to hell with all of its little uh intricacies, or you go to heaven, which is which is weird because you normally in in like stories, those decisions are already made for the person who has died.
17:43
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
17:43
SPEAKER_03: And that that's why I'm asking, like, what do you do when you're the one who makes the decision?
17:48
SPEAKER_00: Well, um I geez, I probably have to go the Egyptian route and like have have a measuring device of you know your your deeds to you know to weigh against uh you know a given object, whether you know a feather or whatever.
18:03
SPEAKER_03: Um one bottle of high west whiskey.
18:10
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
18:11
SPEAKER_00: This I this is this is great for I guess absurdity because you know the search for answers in an answerless world.
18:17
SPEAKER_02: So how do you how do you even decide?
18:21
SPEAKER_02: And you can also very little known on uh rule.
18:25
SPEAKER_02: You can pass if you want more time to think.
18:27
SPEAKER_00: Well, no, well, you know, as a I think as a writer it's probably good to to work through these exercises.
18:33
SPEAKER_00: So um I guess we would have to establish what is objectively good and what is objectively evil, um, which I guess is hard.
18:44
SPEAKER_00: And then but you know, now uh you know, I guess in this postmodern world we're living in, there's you know all these morally gray moral grayness is almost seen as a virtue now because we understand that no person is 100% good, 100% evil.
19:03
SPEAKER_00: Right.
19:03
SPEAKER_00: And then so like what what is there if they have to go you know somewhere if they have to go to it, if they have to go to an objectively good place in the afterlife or an objectively evil place in the afterlife.
19:17
SPEAKER_00: Um really I there there have to be a measuring device for the totality of their deeds in life.
19:25
SPEAKER_02: It's so interesting that you brought up like moral grayness as a virtue, because that's so funny, because I see people kind of like openly rebel against goodness.
19:35
SPEAKER_02: Like in my life, I've I've seen like open rebellion against goodness because guess what?
19:40
SPEAKER_02: There has to be a balance, right?
19:42
SPEAKER_02: That's very that's a very interesting thing you said about about the the virtue of moral grayness, which is so so interesting.
19:51
SPEAKER_03: Well, I mean especially today when everything is so you know, every everyone like picks a football team of their thoughts and feelings and what they think is right and wrong.
20:00
SPEAKER_03: Um so to be a person who's like, well, what if I just look at every situation as what it is, an individual situation, you know?
20:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
20:09
SPEAKER_03: So yeah, no, that's a very good point.
20:11
SPEAKER_00: So what's what's what's the metric that we measure?
20:14
SPEAKER_00: Is it is it is do we take their good deeds and their evil deeds and and measure them and and take the difference, and then the difference is where you go.
20:23
SPEAKER_02: I would say I guess that's what I would have to do.
20:25
SPEAKER_02: I would say genitalia quality is gonna be um the defining factor.
20:32
SPEAKER_03: You make it to the the podium where St.
20:35
SPEAKER_03: James is and they're like, whip it out, whip it out, let's see it.
20:38
SPEAKER_02: I want to see it.
20:39
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna make a snap judgment right now, and this is what it's all about.
20:44
SPEAKER_00: You're measuring wrong, you gotta measure from the base.
20:48
unknown: Yeah, yeah.
20:49
SPEAKER_03: And you're someone trying to explain to James, like, look, I I didn't shave, you know, so it's gonna look a little smaller than it actually.
20:56
SPEAKER_02: Someone comes through and like makes a valid argument, and I'm like, oh my god, there needs to be a reformation, and we gotta like go through it and like resort people.
21:10
SPEAKER_03: Man, I mean, yes, I mean you're the one who gets to make the metric here.
21:13
SPEAKER_03: Like the honeycomb monster was like, I am gonna be totally hands-off on this project.
21:19
SPEAKER_03: I'm trying a new management style.
21:21
SPEAKER_03: Um, so you do you.
21:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, I guess this is where we bring in the bureaucracy because there would, you know, there'd have to be uh, you know, a committee, a committee on uh well one one, I think you should give you know the soul the ability to appeal the decision.
21:40
SPEAKER_00: Because you know, if it's just me standing there, you know, I'm I'm fallible, you know, I'm not a divine being, so um there should be an appeal process.
21:50
SPEAKER_00: Um, and I guess it would have to be a neutral appeal process as well.
21:56
SPEAKER_02: So um it's but could could people get caught up in appeals for like centuries?
22:03
unknown: Yeah.
22:07
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, so I guess that would take I would I guess the appeal process is is you know the allegory or the metaphor of Limbo, is it not?
22:16
SPEAKER_00: Because you know, nothing really happens there.
22:18
SPEAKER_00: You're just kind of waiting to go to a place.
22:20
SPEAKER_00: So I guess that sounds like hell.
22:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:23
SPEAKER_02: You're just at the limbo bus stop.
22:26
SPEAKER_02: That certainly sounds like hell to me.
22:28
SPEAKER_03: So well, so then before we we jump to James on his afterlife, um, so I uh just quick off the cuff.
22:35
SPEAKER_03: So you you make it through the appeals process, you decide this guy is going to the bad place.
22:40
SPEAKER_03: What happens to them?
22:43
SPEAKER_00: Well, um let's see if I I'm I'm I'm I'm so uh I have I don't want to say inspired, but I I'm definitely, you know, my my line of thinking is uh I don't want to say tainted either, but you know, the divine comedy kind of gave us you know the circles of hell and you know the malbulge and you know so I want to be original.
23:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm influenced by it.
23:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
23:10
SPEAKER_00: So what happens?
23:13
SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, um if if you shit, I don't know.
23:19
SPEAKER_00: Like you would have to you would have to once again take the severity of the the worst offenses, you know.
23:26
SPEAKER_02: Um make them live in Cleveland.
23:31
SPEAKER_02: Make them just live in an in an infinite Cleveland.
23:35
SPEAKER_00: Well what I what I like about what I like about the idea of hell is not necessarily it being a place, but kind of like a state of mind where you're just kind of running these loops of you know, I guess not being able to process a trauma and move on and heal.
24:00
SPEAKER_00: So I guess if if if the if you know the punishment should be your I don't know if your worst fear, but your worst inability.
24:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the inability, I guess living with regret and knowing that you cannot overcome this either feeling or make amends for what you've done.
24:21
SPEAKER_00: I think that might be.
24:22
SPEAKER_02: That's pretty real.
24:23
SPEAKER_02: Have have you do you know about Preacher?
24:27
SPEAKER_02: Do you know about Preacher was a graphic novel and then they also turned it into a show.
24:32
SPEAKER_02: That was a good one.
24:32
SPEAKER_02: And you basic you described their hell.
24:34
SPEAKER_02: It was like people living on loops of like their worst regrets.
24:38
SPEAKER_00: Really?
24:38
SPEAKER_00: Well, I guess I'm not fucking as original as I thought.
24:41
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
24:41
SPEAKER_02: I think you'd enjoy it.
24:42
SPEAKER_02: I think you'd enjoy it.
24:44
SPEAKER_02: Like, like it's it's so interesting that our that our minds are uh gravitate toward like these shared concepts of what we feel would be like the worst punishment or or a fitting punishment.
24:56
SPEAKER_02: And and it just shows like a strong tie to like these these cultural instincts that we have.
25:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, well, I definitely also think that there's uh there's even a uh generational sort of feeling there where previous generations were very much just you know, they it was in the head to move on.
25:14
SPEAKER_03: Um you don't worry about that, you got things to do, do the thing, you don't deal with it, and and some later generations now are kind of in this deal with it sort of mindset and limbo.
25:26
SPEAKER_03: And I think what you have to say there is very very timely, very timely for sure.
25:32
SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, so I'm gonna I'm gonna take some time to think and push that over to you to y'all.
25:37
SPEAKER_00: So what are your thoughts?
25:39
SPEAKER_03: All right, well, uh so James, what about you?
25:41
SPEAKER_02: So uh yeah, your uh Honeycomb Monster was like, hey, yeah, yeah, I'd be I so so I've given this some thought also.
25:50
SPEAKER_02: I it's a show I've talked about a little bit on here before called The Good Place.
25:54
SPEAKER_02: Um and The Good Place is a show that basically details this question like is the way we think about death and and success as a person and punishment and and kind of second chances, it's about all of that.
26:12
SPEAKER_02: It's about some people who die and then go through the current process of what of of what it's like to be in hell or or or be judged, and then they end up reforming the afterlife in a way that they feel is more fair.
26:26
SPEAKER_02: And I I really like that interpretation.
26:29
SPEAKER_02: And um their interpretation is that uh essentially the bad place should be a place that affords the opportunity of growth, like genuine growth.
26:41
SPEAKER_02: And of course, it takes a lot of like nonsense metrics, right, uh, to come to that conclusion.
26:49
SPEAKER_02: Um but it what happens is they kind of relive a life, a lifetime, and and they have an opportunity to make better choices, but they have a conscience that builds over these uh traumas that they have and have to endure and have to deal with the consequences of it builds a conscience.
27:10
SPEAKER_02: And when they start listening to that conscience, they get like a life to try to figure it out.
27:16
SPEAKER_02: And if they come, if they are grow a conscience and be a good person and like be considerate of others, then they make it onto the good place, which is a place where essentially anything is possible, and that you can also choose to leave if you'd like, you can choose to do anything in this place, um and and everybody is trusted to behave there because they've gone through this process of intense personal growth over lifetimes, yeah.
27:43
SPEAKER_02: Um so I really like that interpretation of the afterlife, and I think that that would be a that'd be a great one.
27:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, no, solid, solid, solid concept there, and I guess I definitely you know uh you know the personal growth aspect of it, I think is something that we all need.
27:59
SPEAKER_03: Uh, because I I feel that, you know.
28:02
SPEAKER_03: A million out of a million and one people um who do bad just needed help, you know, they they just needed um maybe a societal system that uh focuses more on help than punishment.
28:17
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
28:18
SPEAKER_02: You're talking crazy stuff.
28:20
SPEAKER_02: You gotta somebody get a Marine in here and kill this man.
28:28
SPEAKER_00: You know, uh and I This is not from the approved text.
28:33
SPEAKER_03: You know, I mean I I feel that I feel that, you know, a million times out of a million and one, that's what it was.
28:40
SPEAKER_03: It was that, you know, we just needed to have formed a society and a construct here that that valued the person and you know saw that, hey, you're struggling right now, and this path is going to lead you down some dark areas and it's gonna make you make some bad decisions and you're gonna hurt a lot of people, you're gonna hurt yourself, and you know, it's that is what it is.
29:04
SPEAKER_02: Guess what?
29:04
SPEAKER_02: You're not the first one.
29:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and and here's how we've tried to cope with it as a society, instead of shoving it under the rug, which is what we do currently.
29:14
SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, we we kind of don't accept failure as as a chance for growth.
29:20
SPEAKER_02: It's a it's it's uh you deserve a punishment.
29:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
29:23
SPEAKER_03: Um one of the things I would so for them, I I like your answer a lot.
29:28
SPEAKER_03: Uh and I would you know give them the change.
29:31
SPEAKER_03: The genitalian one?
29:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
29:33
SPEAKER_03: Um I say, well, you fucked up in life, but let's see what you got.
29:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, um, yeah, the cook the honeycomb monster has no say in that.
29:42
SPEAKER_03: It's actually completely random.
29:45
SPEAKER_00: So would I guess with the um because I guess the way I'm thinking of it is that once you're in heaven or hell, then like that's it.
29:57
SPEAKER_00: So would would the with the notion of like reincarnation and trying again, would that or to to do better, or it you know, is that how you gr graduate to different tiers of of the afterlife, or do you have to make amends in hell to go to heaven?
30:15
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
30:16
SPEAKER_00: What do you think?
30:16
SPEAKER_03: Well, I mean, I think for me at least one of the one last part from from my is I'm standing there saying you go here, you go there.
30:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
30:25
SPEAKER_03: And you know, with the you know, the mantra of that most of you were victims of circumstance.
30:31
SPEAKER_03: There would like in my initial when Honeycomb Monster sent me the keys and I'm taking over, there would be one experiment phase where I take like a Jeffrey Dahmer type or you know a Gacy type, and I just see on this one person.
30:47
SPEAKER_03: If there is any chance, if I give them all the tools to not go that route, and there's you know that and then if I find that Dahmer's always gonna be Dahmer, I'm just I'm I'm not gonna create a universe for punishment.
31:00
SPEAKER_03: I'm just going to end it.
31:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
31:03
SPEAKER_03: You know, it's just that particular consciousness does not continue on.
31:07
SPEAKER_03: Uh you had your one.
31:09
SPEAKER_02: You have the power of elimination.
31:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
31:11
SPEAKER_02: That's what you want.
31:12
SPEAKER_02: You want to be able to take a personal hand when necessary, which is that's your universe.
31:17
SPEAKER_03: Sometimes I gotta get in there.
31:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
31:20
SPEAKER_03: The honeycomb monster said that we're mostly teleworking, but normally every once in a while, I I gotta get in there.
31:27
SPEAKER_03: You know, we gotta have some face-to-face.
31:29
SPEAKER_00: Uh let's come to the office at least one day a week.
31:33
SPEAKER_02: Erase some consciousness from existence.
31:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, I gotta do one.
31:38
SPEAKER_02: Uh come on, somebody.
31:40
SPEAKER_03: You know, there's one meeting.
31:42
SPEAKER_03: Um, well, uh, so uh bring it bringing it back to you, Eric.
31:46
SPEAKER_03: Uh, final thoughts on the topic.
31:48
SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, well it's it's hard to get you know if I was God.
31:57
SPEAKER_00: Um, right?
31:58
SPEAKER_02: Isn't that crazy?
31:59
SPEAKER_02: That's a crazy question.
32:00
SPEAKER_02: You know, people people like to it's it's it's silly, it's absurd.
32:04
SPEAKER_02: You know, don't have no reason to be too serious.
32:07
SPEAKER_00: So I I guess understanding my own fallibility, um, and then I guess taking into account the importance of kind of like a group effort in creating a agreed upon punishment and reward system for past deeds and yeah.
32:32
SPEAKER_00: Um I think that's the I think it would have to be a I hate to say it, but I think the afterlife would have to be a bureaucracy to make it fair.
32:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
32:44
SPEAKER_03: No, no, hey, I mean it it's definitely everybody's going slow.
32:50
SPEAKER_03: Like, sorry guys, we're talking about your afterlife here.
32:53
SPEAKER_03: You want me to get it right.
32:54
SPEAKER_02: This is this is a quality.
32:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, uh, and just one on one of your points there.
32:59
SPEAKER_03: One I will never trash old school monotheism for the god's infallibility.
33:06
SPEAKER_03: Any plot hole that comes up, like say if we're talking about Zeus, yeah, could always just come down to is like, I had a bad day.
33:13
SPEAKER_03: You know, I wasn't that wasn't my that wasn't my 100%.
33:17
SPEAKER_00: This mortal was looking good, and I just kind of started thinking with the other head.
33:21
SPEAKER_03: I I thought she, you know, wanted to fuck a goose.
33:24
SPEAKER_02: And turned out not the case.
33:28
SPEAKER_03: My bet.
33:29
SPEAKER_03: I did it anyway.
33:31
SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna grow from this.
33:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's that's on me.
33:34
SPEAKER_03: Uh uh uh James, final thoughts.
33:38
SPEAKER_02: Uh final thoughts.
33:39
SPEAKER_02: Uh, I think this is the question that uh you know f full uh moral philosophers pose, right?
33:46
SPEAKER_02: Is what makes a person good and what makes a person not?
33:50
SPEAKER_02: And of course, I recommend the good place for anyone who's interested, or Tim Scanlon's book, uh What We Owe What Do We Owe Each Other.
33:59
SPEAKER_02: And uh I think that moral philosophers have been trying to put themselves in the shoes of God for a long time.
34:04
SPEAKER_02: And you know what, what what what should life be like in this place?
34:11
SPEAKER_02: None of us asked to be here, we just kind of showed up.
34:15
SPEAKER_02: And and we're the masters of of how we approach this world, and sometimes we forget that and we kind of leave it up to other people.
34:26
SPEAKER_02: And it's good to kind of put yourselves in the shoes of, you know, what is it that I actually value?
34:31
SPEAKER_02: What should we value?
34:33
SPEAKER_02: Um, it seems absurd because the concept is so uh so nonsense because we have no power as individuals.
34:41
SPEAKER_02: Um, but it's still it's still good to remind ourselves that we should be in control of this, and there are things that can be done, and we should be working toward those things.
34:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
34:51
SPEAKER_03: No, and I I think for my final statement on it, I'm taking it in a cosmic horror sense.
34:56
SPEAKER_03: Um, and I'm just going to be a god living his life.
35:00
SPEAKER_02: Everybody's to the bad place, and the bad place is with me.
35:03
SPEAKER_02: No, worse than that.
35:05
SPEAKER_03: I'm living my life fucking and fighting the other gods, and then I look down and realize that you guys are just squiggling in the dirt, and I'm gonna do that for like a million years, and then I'm gonna jump back to genitalia contests.
35:17
SPEAKER_03: Okay, everyone gets pulled back.
35:19
SPEAKER_03: The great schism.
35:22
SPEAKER_03: And that's gonna be the end of the there.
35:24
SPEAKER_03: You go, Booker Ryan.
35:26
SPEAKER_00: I I came across this uh this thing in the HP Lovecraft Historical Society Facebook page, but it was it was essentially the argument that the sun is a cosmic horror entity, like an eldritch abomination.
35:40
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
35:41
SPEAKER_00: It absolutely has the ability to just destroy us, you know.
35:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it sends out these these solar tentacles, and if it hits us, our atmosphere is just obliterated, you know.
35:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and it does it.
35:52
SPEAKER_03: Everything that we built is gone.
35:54
SPEAKER_03: It's not on purpose.
35:55
SPEAKER_03: It doesn't nothing just be on its own whims and like, oh, I didn't mean to hit you.
36:00
SPEAKER_03: Sorry, my bad.
36:01
SPEAKER_03: I'm falluble.
36:03
SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
36:05
SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
36:05
SPEAKER_02: I didn't ask to be born either.
36:11
SPEAKER_03: Perfect moment to jump to the next part of our podcast for you.
36:16
SPEAKER_03: We got a fun fight for you.
36:17
SPEAKER_03: It's going to be Anton, forget his last name, Bodum.
36:21
SPEAKER_00: Shigur.
36:21
SPEAKER_03: Shigur of No Country for Old Men against a Velociraptor.
36:26
SPEAKER_02: Um not a Velociraptor.
36:30
SPEAKER_02: I, you know, that's pretty upsetting.
36:33
SPEAKER_02: I feel quite offended.
36:35
SPEAKER_02: It's the Velociraptor.
36:36
SPEAKER_02: The Velociraptor.
36:37
SPEAKER_03: We're talking the one in the kitchen scene, right?
36:40
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
36:40
SPEAKER_02: Well, there were two in the kitchen scene, but the one is the one that's in control of all of them.
36:44
SPEAKER_02: She's the dominant clever girl.
36:46
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
36:46
SPEAKER_02: Clever girl.
36:47
SPEAKER_03: All right.
36:48
SPEAKER_03: We're talking clever girl.
36:49
SPEAKER_03: All right.
36:49
SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
36:50
SPEAKER_03: Um, so it's gonna be them.
36:51
SPEAKER_03: Um, but before we do that, we gotta get a little bit more drunk, we gotta get a little bit more high.
36:55
SPEAKER_03: It means it's time to bust them out.
36:57
SPEAKER_00: Well, I wasn't supposed to be drinking the whole time because I was whoops.
37:02
SPEAKER_02: Uh this one.
37:03
SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't be able to talk if I was smoking the whole time.
37:06
SPEAKER_02: I'd be I'd be drooling on myself.
37:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I gotta go to Casco after this.
37:13
unknown: Oh, shh.
37:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it hit my oh we had a little spill.
37:17
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I'm sorry.
37:19
SPEAKER_03: Uh well, this one watching a movie with me after this.
37:23
SPEAKER_03: It was that was a totally sober mistake.
37:26
SPEAKER_03: Um, this one goes out to our combatants.
37:29
SPEAKER_03: Clever girl and Anton.
37:32
SPEAKER_03: Sugar.
37:33
SPEAKER_03: Sugar.
37:34
SPEAKER_00: Cheers.
37:35
SPEAKER_00: Cheers.
37:36
SPEAKER_00: Not sugar, sugar.
37:39
SPEAKER_02: I knew he was gonna forget.
37:41
SPEAKER_02: I was ready with it.
37:42
SPEAKER_02: Always do.
37:44
SPEAKER_02: I've known this man for over a decade.
37:48
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
37:51
SPEAKER_02: I know when he doesn't remember someone's name after being told four times.
37:58
SPEAKER_03: Look, I'm busy trying to keep this fucking show afloat.
38:03
SPEAKER_00: All right.
38:04
SPEAKER_00: So let me drink let me drink and try to do that.
38:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
38:08
SPEAKER_03: All right, someone else has got to remember the names.
38:12
SPEAKER_02: All right, we got you.
38:13
SPEAKER_02: That's all.
38:13
SPEAKER_02: That's why you have a co-host, man.
38:15
SPEAKER_03: That's yeah, there you go.
38:16
SPEAKER_03: Um, so those of you, if this is your first time, this is your first fight, this is how we do it.
38:20
SPEAKER_03: It's a three-round method guaranteed to get you the best results.
38:24
SPEAKER_03: Scientifically proven.
38:25
SPEAKER_03: Round one, our combatants head down into the last Applebee's.
38:32
SPEAKER_03: The very last one.
38:33
SPEAKER_03: We now own the name.
38:35
SPEAKER_03: They head down into the final Applebee's where there is a legally distinct fight club going on.
38:40
SPEAKER_03: Uh, Tyler Durden will be played by Val Kilmer, and he's explaining the rules.
38:45
SPEAKER_03: It's pound for pound, punch for punch, tooth for claw, and they just kill each other.
38:52
SPEAKER_03: They get nothing beyond themselves.
38:56
SPEAKER_03: Good luck, Anton.
38:58
SPEAKER_03: First round's gonna be great.
39:00
SPEAKER_03: Round two, we jump into a city view where these two characters receive a manila envelope beneath their apartment doors, and they now know that they have 24 hours to kill the other one.
39:11
SPEAKER_03: They can do whatever they can with a city and they have all their stuff back.
39:15
SPEAKER_03: And round three is the same thing as round two, except this time they get to bring a friend.
39:20
SPEAKER_03: So, transitioning to round one, we have gone down into the basement of the Applebee's.
39:24
SPEAKER_03: Cher and Carl Urban have been escorted up to the box seats, and uh the high and dry philosophers are ready to watch this fight.
39:31
SPEAKER_03: Val Kilmer has explained the rules.
39:33
SPEAKER_03: It's time to get it on.
39:35
SPEAKER_03: So, guests first, round one, pound for pound, punch for punch, clever girl velociraptor versus Anton salty guy.
39:46
SPEAKER_00: Um unfortunately, I think for Anton uh Yeah.
39:58
SPEAKER_03: Um I don't think he could intimidate the raptor.
40:03
SPEAKER_00: I'm looking at kind of like the way kittens do their rough and tumble play, where they they they grab and then they kick with their bottom feet.
40:12
SPEAKER_00: Of course.
40:12
SPEAKER_00: And I'm just what what I'm imagining is Clever Girl wraps her her you know little T-Rex arms around Anton's neck and just rips his guts open with a big claw.
40:27
SPEAKER_00: And then that's pretty much it, I think.
40:29
SPEAKER_00: You know.
40:31
SPEAKER_00: Anton might Anton, you know, he might get uh he might get a good couple like one-liners in there.
40:39
SPEAKER_02: Like uh I don't even know.
40:42
SPEAKER_00: You know, like what what what business is it of yours where I'm from, Frendo?
40:47
SPEAKER_00: Like he might get a one-liner in, but he ain't gonna intimidate no raptor.
40:53
SPEAKER_03: Well, I would like to see the one time Anton is an Anton, and he like looks at Val Kilmer and goes, What the fuck is this?
41:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I can't imagine like Velociraptor uh like like Val Kilmer trying to drag a Velociraptor with a ring.
41:11
SPEAKER_03: Come on, girl, come on.
41:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
41:15
SPEAKER_00: So I think round one is gonna go to Clever Girl.
41:20
SPEAKER_02: James, that's uh this is very funny.
41:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think that the um I think that the Velociraptor is gonna win.
41:29
SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be hilarious.
41:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think that I think that for once, I think this would be a defining moment when people thought of of Anton Scher because he would for the first time feel just like absolute fear and helplessness while staring down a 65 million year old predator, yeah, yeah, like a killing machine.
41:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, and he doesn't even have a bag of peanuts to casually eat while trying to intimidate it.
41:57
SPEAKER_02: So it's just literally powerless, and he hates feeling powerless.
42:01
SPEAKER_02: Like that's one of the things he, whenever someone like makes him feel like any cord like outsmarts him or says anything he doesn't like, he's like takes it as a personal offense.
42:11
SPEAKER_03: He can't even flip a coin on this one.
42:12
SPEAKER_02: There's literally nothing he can do, and he'll for for one time feel totally powerless.
42:17
SPEAKER_03: Or clever girl rips him to pieces.
42:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, I think we're pretty set on this one.
42:22
SPEAKER_03: So um, you know, they have a big six-inch claw.
42:28
SPEAKER_02: Perfect for disemboweling.
42:31
SPEAKER_02: She just kind of and also tapping menacingly.
42:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, she can do the coin.
42:36
SPEAKER_02: She can do the menacing to him.
42:38
SPEAKER_02: Uh she is smart enough to menace.
42:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she just starts clicking on the floor, like I uh shit.
42:45
SPEAKER_02: Smart enough to be menacing.
42:47
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
42:47
SPEAKER_03: Oh, turn it around on it.
42:49
SPEAKER_03: Turn it around.
42:49
SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
42:51
SPEAKER_03: Well, moving on to uh round two.
42:54
SPEAKER_03: He's traumatized and in hell.
42:56
SPEAKER_03: He's gonna live the regrets to work through.
42:59
SPEAKER_03: Depending on how my experiment went, he might just disappear.
43:02
SPEAKER_03: So uh round two.
43:04
SPEAKER_03: Uh now we've transitioned into a city view.
43:06
SPEAKER_03: These characters have 24 hours to kill the other one.
43:10
SPEAKER_03: What goes down?
43:11
SPEAKER_03: Guest first.
43:13
SPEAKER_00: So I think this is this is gonna work out better for Anton because now he's in his element.
43:18
SPEAKER_00: He's you know his his uh advantage is his anonymity.
43:29
SPEAKER_00: And you know, even though he he represents this kind of unstoppable force and just the you know the changing uh wow, I drank too much.
43:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh the evolving nature of you know human indecency and and evilness.
43:46
SPEAKER_00: And you know, so like he's he's in in this instance where he has his anonymity, he's he's more of a an oppressive presence.
43:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:55
SPEAKER_00: And um, and it works out it doesn't work out in favor for the Velociraptor because you are not an anonymous person as a Velociraptor.
44:07
SPEAKER_00: Uh there's a Velociraptor.
44:13
SPEAKER_00: So um
44:15
SPEAKER_02: I like that though.
44:16
SPEAKER_02: I like that as the oppressive presence.
44:19
SPEAKER_02: You're totally right.
44:20
unknown: Yeah.
44:20
SPEAKER_00: Velociraptor, you might feel she might feel something coming, but she ain't she ain't gonna be suspecting some dude to just put a cattle gun up to her head and just end it up there.
44:36
SPEAKER_02: I think it's even more than that.
44:37
SPEAKER_02: I think that I think that Clever Girl is smart, you know, but also so is Anton.
44:42
SPEAKER_02: And you know, she's Clever Girl's gonna be trying to find Anton because of course she got the manila envelope and she read it in her dinosaur language that she had to go kill Anton.
44:54
SPEAKER_01: And then she goes out after.
44:57
SPEAKER_03: And so she's motivated.
44:59
SPEAKER_03: I mean she's the one who killed Turok, if anyone knows that, Reverend.
45:03
SPEAKER_00: Uh oh, Turok the dinosaur hunter.
45:07
SPEAKER_00: Um so but you know, at the same time, I I think so.
45:12
SPEAKER_00: Anton has already demonstrated that he he doesn't he doesn't fuck around when people are hunting him, because when uh what's what's Woody Harrelson's character's name?
45:19
SPEAKER_00: But anyway, he was sent to find Anton.
45:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
45:22
SPEAKER_00: And Anton, like he knew he was coming, he just waited.
45:25
SPEAKER_00: Right.
45:26
SPEAKER_00: You know, so this this whole this assassination game, uh, I think it works out in Anton's favor.
45:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
45:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
45:34
SPEAKER_02: He essentially led him into a trap.
45:37
SPEAKER_02: And that was Clever Girls' thing, was leading people into traps, but Anton is also has the has primate intelligence.
45:44
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
45:45
SPEAKER_03: I think that's she's a very intelligent lizard.
45:48
SPEAKER_03: Bird.
45:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
45:49
SPEAKER_03: Bird.
45:49
SPEAKER_03: Um very intelligent bird.
45:51
SPEAKER_03: But she but he's a very intelligent primate.
45:53
SPEAKER_03: With a gun.
45:55
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
45:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
45:57
SPEAKER_03: Oh, well, James, that's your final thought.
45:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I totally agree.
46:00
SPEAKER_02: I think Anton has I think that Anton is going to kill the people.
46:04
SPEAKER_02: He's he's he's going to kill people where the dinosaur is hunting for him, and and like the dinosaur is gonna realize it got there late.
46:11
SPEAKER_02: Like Anton was already there, and he's going to essentially herd this dinosaur into a killbox.
46:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
46:18
SPEAKER_02: I think that's what's gonna happen.
46:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, and she's gonna turn into cattle.
46:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's gonna turn into cattle, exactly.
46:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, yeah, no.
46:24
SPEAKER_03: I mean, all right.
46:25
SPEAKER_03: Well, I I feel like this one's also we know where we're going.
46:27
SPEAKER_03: So, round two, congratulations, Anton Sugar.
46:32
SPEAKER_02: Um, we are now you gotta watch out for the ones with the cutesy names.
46:37
SPEAKER_02: They're the craziest.
46:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
46:40
SPEAKER_03: Oh sugar.
46:41
SPEAKER_03: Um, I mean, it's his uh boyish haircut.
46:46
SPEAKER_03: It was uh family guy who's like, I want it to be both from the future and the past.
46:51
SPEAKER_02: I think short in the long places and long in the short places.
46:56
SPEAKER_02: I think that I honestly think that the haircut was like an invitation for people to comment on it because then he could he could in his mind kill them, you know.
47:07
SPEAKER_02: It's like it's it's a thing that spurs him to action.
47:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah like built into his haircut.
47:14
SPEAKER_00: But that's the thing about Anton is that as soon as you notice him, right, you're dead.
47:21
SPEAKER_00: You know, and like the the gas station attendance, like you're getting all you're getting any rain up that way, you know.
47:26
SPEAKER_00: And yeah, that when Anton realizes, oh, you've seen me, well, I'll give you a chance to make it out of this alive, you know.
47:35
SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
47:36
SPEAKER_03: No, I I kind of makes me want to go watch that movie again.
47:38
SPEAKER_03: I'm not gonna lie to you.
47:39
SPEAKER_03: But um, so moving into round three, same thing as round two, except this time everyone gets to bring a friend.
47:45
SPEAKER_03: This I have no idea which way this one's gonna go.
47:47
SPEAKER_03: I'm excited.
47:48
SPEAKER_03: Guests first, who do they bring?
47:50
SPEAKER_03: What happens?
47:53
SPEAKER_00: Uh well the Velociraptors bring in her pack, I believe.
47:57
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
47:57
SPEAKER_00: Um and I think Anton.
48:02
SPEAKER_00: So the the the goals, while they're the the you know, the the outcome is I guess similar.
48:09
SPEAKER_00: The the way we get there is a little different.
48:11
SPEAKER_00: So the the Velociraptors bring in her friends because other raptors act as a distraction, and you also got more, you know, uh teeth and claws and shit.
48:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
48:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
48:25
SPEAKER_02: I've tried to make it sound eloquent, but I'm drunk.
48:27
SPEAKER_02: So go for it.
48:29
SPEAKER_02: You don't need to be eloquent.
48:30
SPEAKER_02: Let it rip.
48:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but then Anton, he's bringing friends to get in essentially sacrifice, you know.
48:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
48:40
SPEAKER_03: That's totally what he's doing.
48:42
SPEAKER_03: He brings the gas station attendant.
48:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the person closest to him.
48:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
48:48
SPEAKER_00: So he's he, you know, he he Anton drives out to this place with this guy and he said, Hey, can you step out of the car, please?
48:56
SPEAKER_00: Just just wait there, and then here comes a pack of Velociraptors, they hit him.
49:02
SPEAKER_00: I love it.
49:03
SPEAKER_00: And you know, so yeah.
49:05
SPEAKER_00: That's I don't know how it's gonna go though.
49:08
SPEAKER_03: Well, well, James, what do you think?
49:10
SPEAKER_02: So, so I think that it it has been proven that it is not easy to kill those Velociraptors.
49:16
SPEAKER_02: Uh it takes it doesn't take just one shot from a gun.
49:20
SPEAKER_02: You have to really lay into just one of these monsters from the from from ancient times.
49:26
SPEAKER_02: And I think that um I think that you're right that Anton is going to bring someone he can sacrifice.
49:32
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if uh that person is just a random person or possibly the gas station attendant.
49:37
SPEAKER_02: The gas station attendant's a great one.
49:39
SPEAKER_02: Um, but I think maybe even Woody Harrelson's character.
49:42
SPEAKER_02: Uh because essentially he can use him as a distraction because uh Anton's good at leading people into traps.
49:50
SPEAKER_02: But I don't think I don't think he he's ready for the absurdity of like the kind of things that happened in Jurassic Park, the movie.
49:59
SPEAKER_02: Like there were some very absurd things.
50:01
SPEAKER_02: Do you remember the gymnastics on the gymnastics on a branch, and then um uh there was just some that was the 90s.
50:10
SPEAKER_02: A kid got electrocuted and f with like 50,000 volts of electricity and just like and flew off the line.
50:17
SPEAKER_02: It was okay.
50:18
SPEAKER_02: He wanted some ice cream after.
50:20
SPEAKER_02: Um, but like and and there was they had Velociraptors falling through the ceiling and shit.
50:26
SPEAKER_02: Uh uh and it was it was a lot of nonsense.
50:28
SPEAKER_02: Uh I don't think Anton could was is prepared for like the nonsense physics and ways you have to deal with the Velociraptor.
50:36
SPEAKER_02: I think that uh I think that that sacrifice would go down.
50:40
SPEAKER_02: He might kill one or two, but then clever girl girl uh has got him.
50:45
SPEAKER_03: Um so I I'm always, you know, when it comes to this, I'm gonna pull out those weird ass people that are gonna bring, you know, for your because i I honestly I feel it's the only way to explore the themes of the character itself.
50:57
SPEAKER_03: Sure.
50:57
SPEAKER_03: So I I think that uh Anton, you know, the the worlds and universes he has to stretch on to.
51:04
SPEAKER_03: Um I don't know.
51:06
SPEAKER_03: I'm thinking he's either gonna bring the gas station attendant because that's his closest friend.
51:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
51:11
SPEAKER_02: He's the person he had he's had the longest conversation with in his entire life.
51:15
SPEAKER_03: Or he's gonna bring Raul Silva, the bad guy from Skyfall.
51:20
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
51:21
SPEAKER_02: Himself as another bad guy.
51:24
SPEAKER_03: And and so we're gonna have Raul Silva hacking.
51:29
SPEAKER_03: He's gonna track the movement of these Velociraptors.
51:32
SPEAKER_03: He tries to gum them to death.
51:33
SPEAKER_03: What is what's gonna go what's gonna happen?
51:36
SPEAKER_03: He's gonna drive a fucking train into it.
51:39
SPEAKER_03: Um or but meanwhile, the raptor um I think is gonna bring Chris Pratt's character.
51:46
SPEAKER_03: Um because eventually, you know, you for some reason Chris Pratt has Raptor powers.
51:55
SPEAKER_02: He does have raptor powers, that's true.
51:57
SPEAKER_03: And you know, I feel like him and Chris Pratt are gonna become well, Clever Girl and Chris Pratt.
52:02
SPEAKER_03: And Chris Pratt is unstoppable.
52:04
SPEAKER_03: Are gonna become friends, and now you have my it didn't work well, modern John McClane wearing a vest who broke Ana Farris' heart um against um Javier Bodum and a hacker.
52:19
SPEAKER_02: And uh the theme of Chris Pratt's Jurassic Park character is overwhelming.
52:24
SPEAKER_02: He cannot lose.
52:26
SPEAKER_03: But that that plays directly into a Clever Girl theme in her universe.
52:31
SPEAKER_03: Absurdity works.
52:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
52:33
SPEAKER_03: You can have a 13-year-old girl do a gymnastic spin and knock out a raptor.
52:41
SPEAKER_03: Um and I I think uh so Clever Girl has some absurdity that she can tap into.
52:50
SPEAKER_03: Because she is a name Velociraptor.
52:53
SPEAKER_03: I think that she has a thematic power that she got plot armor.
52:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, she's got some plot armor.
53:00
SPEAKER_02: Chris Bratt has plot armor enough for anybody.
53:04
SPEAKER_02: If you put him next to anybody, he is literally immune to everything.
53:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, it's insanity.
53:12
SPEAKER_02: Eric confided that he had not watched the Jurassic World movies.
53:15
SPEAKER_02: Don't do not watch them, they are terrible.
53:19
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
53:20
SPEAKER_03: And that the waste of my time.
53:22
SPEAKER_03: The violent, violent fucking death they did on the uh personal assistant.
53:27
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
53:27
SPEAKER_03: Who just did not all she did was try and have a job and watch your kids.
53:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but for some reason they wanted to rip her apart.
53:34
SPEAKER_03: Um, but uh, so we've watched it for you.
53:39
SPEAKER_03: We we got a lot of a lot of thoughts out there, a lot of ideas.
53:42
SPEAKER_03: So, Eric, coming back to you, we need your final thoughts and a vote.
53:46
SPEAKER_03: So the first one of these guys we're gonna vote on.
53:50
SPEAKER_00: I think you know, take it, take it out of the fight club and give them friends and weapons.
54:00
SPEAKER_00: I think Anton Sugar is taking it because uh guns are pretty guns are a pretty good advantage.
54:09
SPEAKER_00: Guns and just sheer willingness to uh well just a willingness to be violent to accomplish a goal.
54:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, you know, the Velociraptor has the animal instinct, but uh it it's also that Anton Sugar is willing to sacrifice his humanity and his soul to to accomplish this goal.
54:38
SPEAKER_00: So I think Anton's taking it all day.
54:40
SPEAKER_02: He knows how to plot a long-term goal because he's a human.
54:44
SPEAKER_02: He has he has human intelligence, which is also incredibly strong, very powerful, very powerful in the natural world.
54:51
SPEAKER_03: Um, as you can see, we've taken it over.
54:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
54:54
SPEAKER_02: Well, uh James?
54:55
SPEAKER_02: I think that I wonder if he'd be caught off guard though, because he's like all he's all about killing people.
55:00
SPEAKER_02: I don't think he ever imagined that he'd have to fight a Velociraptor.
55:04
SPEAKER_02: Um I don't know how good of a hunter he is, but like an like a trained hunter who like knew the dinosaur.
55:12
SPEAKER_02: Like knew the dinosaur personally and had like an opinion.
55:15
SPEAKER_02: They'd bet on the lunch.
55:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he had an opinion on the dinosaur.
55:20
SPEAKER_02: I think he got taken by surprise.
55:22
SPEAKER_02: He got killed.
55:23
SPEAKER_02: He got taken by surprise.
55:24
SPEAKER_00: Um yeah.
55:28
SPEAKER_02: Uh I think that I think that the uh I think the Velociraptor wins.
55:32
SPEAKER_02: I think that just Anton is just like totally he gets the thing under his ears.
55:36
SPEAKER_02: He's like, You have to kill a Velociraptor.
55:37
SPEAKER_02: What does that mean?
55:38
SPEAKER_02: What does that even mean?
55:41
SPEAKER_02: And it's not like the three-foot actual Velociraptor, it's like Hollywood Velociraptor.
55:46
SPEAKER_02: It's six feet tall, doesn't have feathers.
55:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
55:50
SPEAKER_03: Well, say I want to change my vote for who the Velociraptor brings.
55:54
SPEAKER_03: I think she brings that hunter.
55:56
SPEAKER_03: That hunter, yeah.
55:57
SPEAKER_03: As a distraction.
55:58
SPEAKER_03: I mean, he's used as whatever, but he's got a sniper rifle.
56:01
SPEAKER_03: He does have a sniper rifle.
56:02
SPEAKER_03: You know, if the two of them, you know.
56:05
SPEAKER_03: So what what I see happening, so you know that scene where he looks to the left, like clever girl, and then it cuts.
56:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
56:10
SPEAKER_03: It hard cuts.
56:11
SPEAKER_02: It doesn't hard cut, a thing jumps at him.
56:13
SPEAKER_03: Well, yeah, he leaps at she leaps at him.
56:14
SPEAKER_03: It's bites it down.
56:16
SPEAKER_03: But then I I see this different thing where she likes, she's got her jaws around his head, ready to crush it like an egg, but then she stops and sits down, sits, takes the gun, moves it away, sits down, like uses that claw and like backs it away.
56:34
SPEAKER_00: Like, listen, I got this guy that we need to take care of.
56:37
SPEAKER_02: She presents him a manila envelope.
56:42
SPEAKER_02: Points out.
56:44
SPEAKER_03: And the two of them are like, why are we fucking with this family?
56:49
SPEAKER_03: Jeff Goldblum deserves to live.
56:52
SPEAKER_03: Let's go take care of Anton Sugar.
56:55
SPEAKER_03: This guy's a bad guy.
56:56
SPEAKER_03: And then they join forces.
56:57
SPEAKER_03: That's what so I'm seeing that.
56:59
SPEAKER_03: Oh my god.
57:00
SPEAKER_00: And so that's that's what that's what we want, Hollywood.
57:05
SPEAKER_00: Fantastic.
57:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
57:07
SPEAKER_03: Um, I mean, that's why so many movies come out right after one of our episodes that are suspiciously like what we said.
57:14
SPEAKER_02: Um, I think that's what's gonna happen in this new Jurassic World.
57:18
SPEAKER_02: Jurassic World.
57:19
SPEAKER_03: I think that's what's gonna happen is they're gonna team up from yeah, no, we're gonna read tomorrow in on just the Google news in the morning that uh Javier Bodum's been cast into the new.
57:30
SPEAKER_02: That'd be so crazy.
57:32
SPEAKER_02: He could be for all I know.
57:33
SPEAKER_02: I haven't looked into it.
57:34
SPEAKER_03: I haven't looked into it.
57:35
SPEAKER_03: Oh, interesting.
57:36
SPEAKER_03: After Jurassic World or whatever, I stopped.
57:38
SPEAKER_03: Um, but um so I I think if Clever Girl brings her hunter friend, because they mean they've fucked.
57:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they clearly have the relationship.
57:48
SPEAKER_02: Of course they have.
57:49
SPEAKER_02: Um irresistible.
57:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, a man and a woman can't have a platonic relationship, not in a movie.
57:56
SPEAKER_03: Not in a movie.
57:57
unknown: That's true.
57:58
SPEAKER_00: So I I would say that's the classic trope of uh enemies to lovers, right?
58:02
SPEAKER_00: That's huge enrollments right now.
58:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
58:05
SPEAKER_03: No, no, so I I so that's healthy.
58:07
SPEAKER_03: So right now, so James, where was your vote officially?
58:10
SPEAKER_03: Uh Velociraptors.
58:12
unknown: Fuck.
58:12
SPEAKER_03: Uh, because I I think I think so.
58:14
SPEAKER_03: We have a hundred fights, and I I think that 49 of them have your bodum pulls it off with his gas station attendant ploy.
58:25
SPEAKER_00: Um, but I I think no, yeah, because the the gas station tenant brings his lucky fucking quarter and it's the game over for the raptor.
58:34
SPEAKER_03: But then I I think just I think just like one more time out of this is because I feel like I could be make your goddamn decision.
58:42
SPEAKER_02: We don't have a whole day.
58:43
SPEAKER_03: I think it's I think I'm giving it to the Velociraptor 51 times out of a hundred.
58:49
SPEAKER_03: All right.
58:49
SPEAKER_03: And I think that's where it's gonna hit just because she has a thematic universe and more friends to pull on than a gas station attendant.
59:01
SPEAKER_02: That's so that's so sad.
59:03
SPEAKER_02: Anton is, you know, that's a sad thing that Anton went through that he didn't have friends.
59:08
SPEAKER_02: We we notice this sometimes is when you don't have someone you can rely on who's like who you build a relationship with, who is competent, you know, yeah, uh, like it's really difficult to uh to win against someone who has friends.
59:20
SPEAKER_03: I will say, in one of those 49 wins that Javier Bodum pulls off at the gas station attendant, yeah, it's because the gas station attendant like starts throwing down.
59:31
SPEAKER_03: Just really good, puts the boot to the rafter.
59:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like he stomps it to death behind a truck.
59:36
SPEAKER_03: Um caught it on guard.
59:39
SPEAKER_03: But so there you have it.
59:40
SPEAKER_03: Um, congratulations, Miss Clever Girl.
59:43
SPEAKER_03: Um you take it very closely.
59:46
SPEAKER_03: Um, and Clever Girl is winning the fight this week.
59:49
SPEAKER_03: Um, so Eric, thank you so much for joining us.
59:53
SPEAKER_03: I hope you're able to continue with your day after this.
59:57
SPEAKER_00: This was a blast.
59:58
SPEAKER_00: This is a good one.
59:59
SPEAKER_00: Well, I've got my Gatorade here, so I'll just count it.
1:00:01
SPEAKER_00: There you go.
1:00:06
SPEAKER_03: Uh well, so uh before we go, where can we find you?
1:00:10
SPEAKER_00: Uh I don't really exist very much on the on the internet.
1:00:13
SPEAKER_00: Um I have an Instagram.
1:00:16
SPEAKER_00: Um I'm rarely on there.
1:00:18
SPEAKER_00: Um what is it?
1:00:20
SPEAKER_00: We'll follow you.
1:00:21
SPEAKER_00: Uh fuck, I don't know.
1:00:22
SPEAKER_00: At Eric underscore Leland, I think.
1:00:25
SPEAKER_00: Boom.
1:00:25
SPEAKER_02: It is that.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_02: I know because I saw earlier.
1:00:29
SPEAKER_00: And then uh I I have a book called Inhuman.
1:00:32
SPEAKER_00: Um it's uh oh what uh somebody wrote a really nice review and said uh it's like the exorcist meets apocalypse now.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_00: And I was just yeah, hell yeah.
1:00:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:00:48
SPEAKER_00: Um so it's essentially like I said, I was in the military and my dad was in Vietnam.
1:00:53
SPEAKER_00: And um, so it's essentially a uh a story about a team that goes up against uh well, I guess essentially the devil.
1:01:04
SPEAKER_00: It takes possession of one of the team members and then they're gonna be.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_03: Well, I I could tell you this that if you choose not to send high and dry podcast a signed copy, which is your right.
1:01:27
SPEAKER_03: Um I'll send you one.
1:01:29
SPEAKER_03: I'll pick one up myself if you don't.
1:01:31
SPEAKER_02: So well, we're gonna pay you directly for it.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_02: Awesome, man.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_02: Um more artists and their work.
1:01:36
SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, we'll pay for it.
1:01:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and in exchange, we're gonna send you a high and dry podcast shot glass.
1:01:41
SPEAKER_03: So cool.
1:01:42
SPEAKER_03: Hell yeah.
1:01:43
SPEAKER_03: Well, again, thank you so much.
1:01:45
SPEAKER_03: It's been a great time.
1:01:46
SPEAKER_03: Congratulations, Clever Girl.
1:01:48
SPEAKER_03: Um, if you're listening to us.
1:01:51
SPEAKER_03: I appeal.
1:01:53
SPEAKER_03: We'll have an appeal.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_03: We'll get them on for another shot.
1:01:55
SPEAKER_03: We'll get back, we'll get back to you in like 600 years.
1:01:58
SPEAKER_03: We got we're really backlogged.
1:02:00
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we'll figure out if Clever Girl can, you know, grow.
1:02:04
SPEAKER_02: We'll see.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_03: Uh well again, man.
1:02:07
SPEAKER_03: Thank you so much.
1:02:08
SPEAKER_03: It's been great.
1:02:08
SPEAKER_03: This has been High and Dry Podcast.
1:02:10
SPEAKER_03: Thank you all so much for listening.
1:02:11
SPEAKER_03: Um, take it easy.
1:02:13
SPEAKER_03: Bye.
1:02:13
SPEAKER_03: Bye.
1:02:13
SPEAKER_03: All right.