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Chuck & Buck 5-6 Hour 4: Is there an argument for Framber? Mike Benton and One Last thing! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Nine o'clock hour here on a home Chuck Powell and
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Speaker 1: Ashley Ryan with you. Bucky Jacobson still yet to return
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Speaker 1: to the radio program. He is on extended medical leave.
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Speaker 1: Nothing serious there, but should be back soon.
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Speaker 2: I had to take a medical hike.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he took a medical like. He put on a
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Speaker 1: medical backpack, took a medical hike up into the medical woods. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: There he is living his best medical life.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, doctor Jacobson. Did you hear? By the way, Bobby
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Speaker 1: Wagner is now a doctor and he wants to be
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Speaker 1: called doctor Wagner.
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Speaker 2: Now I'll call him whatever he would like me to
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Speaker 2: call you.
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Speaker 1: Hear that?
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Speaker 2: I did not hear that. But that's awesome. Yeah, and
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Speaker 2: it's not surprising at all.
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Speaker 1: He's like, I'm going to stop anyone from ever calling
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Speaker 1: me Bobby again. I am doctor Wagner. I have earned it,
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Speaker 1: and I am doctor Wagner.
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Speaker 2: Can we call him doc?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if on the nickname.
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Speaker 2: Basically the first thing I would ask him if I
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Speaker 2: saw him.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't let me call him a Robert.
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Speaker 3: I know that that didn't.
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Speaker 4: Go over well, okay, all right, well Robert Wagner.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, he doesn't want to be number two.
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. When I was reading that story in our
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Speaker 1: first ever segment of OPQ, I'm like, wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: that didn't even sound right coming on? Did I misread that?
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure because I don't want to give
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Speaker 1: out misinformation So he tore his ACL and his LCL
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Speaker 1: tore them, okay, in December, Yeah, and they are they
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Speaker 1: are of the belief that he is going to be
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Speaker 1: full go at the start of training camp. That's I
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Speaker 1: mean seven months removed.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say someone who tears it at
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Speaker 4: the beginning or middle of the season wouldn't even be
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Speaker 4: ready for the start of the season ordinarily.
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Speaker 1: Seven months removed. They said, he takes a trainer with
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Speaker 1: him wherever he goes. He went on vacation and took
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Speaker 1: the trainer with him to rehab it, and they they
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Speaker 1: think there is a chance that he will be ready
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Speaker 1: full participant at the start of training game. That is
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Speaker 1: crazy and saying also, Carlos Krea is not going to
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Speaker 1: be ready that time, that soon No, Carlos Korea yesterday
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Speaker 1: with the Houston Astros, was just swinging before the game
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Speaker 1: and felt something pop in his ankle, crumbled to the
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Speaker 1: ground and it turns out and he knew something was wrong,
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Speaker 1: very very felt it pop and it was just a
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Speaker 1: tendon in his ankle that he was just swinging and.
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Speaker 3: It just popped and he is out for the season.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So Carlos Kray has been lost from the Astros,
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Speaker 1: who lost yinier Diaz, their catcher and kind of a
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Speaker 1: free similar freakish accident in pregame warmups the day before
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Speaker 1: so or a couple of days before so. But in
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Speaker 1: the span of two three days, they lost two everyday
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Speaker 1: players from a team that's off obviously off to a
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Speaker 1: rough start this year. And so I don't bring that
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Speaker 1: up so that you can laugh at Carlos Korea. I
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Speaker 1: don't or the Astros or the Astros. I bring that
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Speaker 1: up because I'm going to tell you this right now.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to say I'm going to declare it on
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Speaker 1: May sixth, teams that are going to be selling heavily
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Speaker 1: at the trading deadline, put the Astros at the top
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Speaker 1: of your list. Obviously, they built an they built a dynasty.
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Speaker 1: We don't talk about it enough. They built a dynasty.
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Speaker 1: I mean they won championships. They won what a decade's
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Speaker 1: worth of division titles in the playoffs every year, relevant
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Speaker 1: championship contenders every year. I mean, that's if it's not dynasty,
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Speaker 1: it's about as close as you can get.
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Speaker 3: And that was borne.
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Speaker 1: Out of a complete and total rebuild, like one of
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Speaker 1: the most dramatic rebuilds we've seen in professional sports in
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Speaker 1: our entire lifetime. They got as bad as you can
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Speaker 1: possibly get by ripping it all the way down to
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Speaker 1: the studs and just getting rid of everybody that made money,
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Speaker 1: anything that moved. They moved on and rebuilt in a
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Speaker 1: new way through high draft picks and prospects and everything else.
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Speaker 1: And they created a dynasty. So if anyone believes in
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Speaker 1: the rebuilding process, it's the Houston Astros. And now that
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Speaker 1: the riding kind of seems to be on the wall,
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Speaker 1: they're losing players one after another. They can't keep a
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Speaker 1: starting pitcher healthy. And even though they've got your Don Alvarez,
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Speaker 1: they've lost Tucker and Bregman and many others over the years.
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Speaker 1: Al two Bay's obviously not the same player that he
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Speaker 1: used to be. They're going to go full scale rear
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Speaker 1: build because if anyone believes in a rebuild, that's the
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Speaker 1: Houston Astros. So I think they're going to be big
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Speaker 1: time sellers at the trading deadline. I'm talking your Don
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Speaker 1: Alvarez will be gone. They won't be able to move
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Speaker 1: Al two Bay's money. But Josh Hater will be healthy
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Speaker 1: at some point this year, they're going to move him.
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Speaker 1: They'll probably move Brian A. Bray New, They're probably going
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Speaker 1: to move anything that makes money. The Houston Astros are
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Speaker 1: going to move before the trading deadline.
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Speaker 2: Market down, all right, I'm in for it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So I mean they're getting ready to because
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Speaker 1: their farm system is terrible, so they they're going to
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Speaker 1: rebuild the whole thing all over again. And I don't
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Speaker 1: think we're gonna have to worry about the Houston Astros
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Speaker 1: for them.
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Speaker 2: I do hate to see them struggle.
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Speaker 1: Another former Astro made news yesterday, Frambervaldez, who we grew
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Speaker 1: to hate for a lot of reasons, and not just
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Speaker 1: because he was an Astro. He kind of came off
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Speaker 1: as an ass right right, And so Framber Valdez, who
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Speaker 1: last year made headlines. I'm not making this up because
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Speaker 1: he intentionally crossed up his own backup catcher who was
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Speaker 1: catching him for the first time. Like, maybe you're not
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Speaker 1: on the same page. How should I handle that? As
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Speaker 1: a professional? I would think last on your list is
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Speaker 1: to try to hurt him physically by throwing pitches he's
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Speaker 1: not calling for.
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Speaker 4: Yah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what Framber Valdez did in a game last
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Speaker 1: year year, so he has earned the reputation.
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Speaker 2: Gave up a Grand Slam and he was pissed.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because he didn't think the catcher had framed the
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Speaker 1: pitch accordingly and he should have been out of the inning,
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Speaker 1: and so he decided to punish him by hitting him
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Speaker 1: with a pitch that deteacher didn't throw twice.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So that's the kind of person that we're dealing with.
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Speaker 1: And there have been a few other incidents, so already
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Speaker 1: there was this belief that Framber Valdez is.
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Speaker 3: The biggest jerk in basis.
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Speaker 1: Yes, so that's how we felt about him going into
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Speaker 1: last night. Well, then we heard about a fracas that
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Speaker 1: took place between his new team, the Detroit Tigers and
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Speaker 1: the Boston Red Sox, and Valdez was at the heart
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Speaker 1: of it and once again born out of him getting
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Speaker 1: the tar beaten out of him. And he's been pretty
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Speaker 1: good since he went to the Tigers. But ten runs
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Speaker 1: he allowed in three innings last night and then he
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Speaker 1: got himself kicked out of the game. After this, Trevor
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Speaker 1: Story is going to get drilled. That's tired.
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Speaker 5: After the back to back home runs, Valdez sim and
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Speaker 5: some of the Red Sox coming out and some of
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Speaker 5: the Tigers coming out, and both benches are emptying.
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Speaker 1: You can't get them out. See you throw at them?
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Speaker 1: What a joke?
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Speaker 5: Red Sox bullpen is about to enter this thing too?
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Speaker 5: Is they race across the outfield grass? No punches are
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Speaker 5: anything thrown. No, the one guy who caused it's hiding
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Speaker 5: in the back.
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Speaker 1: That is weak.
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Speaker 5: You give up three home runs back to back shots,
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Speaker 5: and then you drill Trevor Story. Well, let's just hope
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Speaker 5: he doesn't cross up his catcher now that he's mad.
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Speaker 1: That was the Red Sox broadcast. As you might guess,
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Speaker 1: there weren't even Tigers though. Rallying to his defense, aj
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Speaker 1: Hinch was even quoted his manager is saying last night
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Speaker 1: that was one of those rare times where I went
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Speaker 1: out on the field and I didn't even want to
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Speaker 1: defend my guy. And I'm paraphrasing, but I didn't feel
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Speaker 1: like being out there. So even he did not like
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Speaker 1: the action of Framber Valdez throwing intentionally at Trevor Story
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Speaker 1: last night after he got the tar beat out of
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Speaker 1: him for three innings, so he was ejected from the game.
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Speaker 1: It was pretty clear, and Valdez did say afterwards it
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Speaker 1: was just a pitch that got away from me, So
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Speaker 1: he did not own up to throwing at Trevor's Story
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Speaker 1: in that situation, but it caused this melee. You could
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Speaker 1: even see Wilson Contreras in the video mouthing to the
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Speaker 1: umpire he has to go, you have to throw him out,
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Speaker 1: and he was thrown out of the game. And so
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Speaker 1: last night was a huge pile on of Framber Valdez,
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Speaker 1: one of the villains of Major League Baseball, and not
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Speaker 1: just a Mariner fans, but to all of major League Baseball,
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Speaker 1: especially for the way that he's conducted himself, comported himself
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Speaker 1: in the last few years. And so last night, certainly
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Speaker 1: you saw it, Ashley, it was pile on Framber Knight
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Speaker 1: on social media.
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and it should be the guy. I mean,
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Speaker 4: he seems to not. We've talked about this before. He
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Speaker 4: is not mentally tough enough. I don't think to succeed
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Speaker 4: in this league.
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Speaker 1: Because he just he has succeeding.
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Speaker 2: He is succeeding. But I'm saying, like Megans, well, yeah.
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Speaker 4: That yes, but I'm in terms of like actually being
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Speaker 4: a good teammate and having the support of your team
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Speaker 4: and things like that.
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Speaker 1: You a world champion. I mean, we gotta give him credit.
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Speaker 1: He's won two.
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Speaker 4: World championship, yes, gee, but he's just not I just
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Speaker 4: don't think he's mentally tough enough because he loses his
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Speaker 4: mind in these situations and he takes it out so
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Speaker 4: obviously on people, and it's amazing that he's continuing to
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Speaker 4: get away with it.
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Speaker 1: I disagree with you. I think he is mentally tough
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Speaker 1: enough as a pitcher. I think he is a poor
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Speaker 1: sport if you will. Yeah, And I think that he's
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Speaker 1: somebody that if things aren't going his way then he
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Speaker 1: and he wants to blame others. Then he does stupid things.
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Speaker 1: But he's been a very successful pitcher. He's been a
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Speaker 1: winning pitcher, he's been a championship pitcher. And he's also
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Speaker 1: somebody that has become a very wealthy pitcher. So I
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Speaker 1: don't think that he's weak minded at all. I think
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Speaker 1: that he's immature, childish, and maybe even beyond that, maybe
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Speaker 1: it is just egotistical that I'm not going to get
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Speaker 1: shown up this way.
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Speaker 3: You're not going to beat me around the ballpark. I'm
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Speaker 3: going to hurt you.
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Speaker 1: And so we are certainly to a spot in baseball,
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Speaker 1: and especially the younger generations. People my age and older,
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Speaker 1: they can't have a problem. I mean, they tend not
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Speaker 1: to have as big a problem with throwing at a
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Speaker 1: pitcher because we grew up where Bob Gibson was idolized
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Speaker 1: for such things. Don Drysdale was idle and those guys
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Speaker 1: are older than I am, but we grew up hearing
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Speaker 1: from our father's stories about Bob Gibson. Wouldn't allow that
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Speaker 1: to happen or Don Dry. Even if you're getting beat
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Speaker 1: around a lot, it just you know, if they're diving in,
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Speaker 1: if they're too comfortable, you've got to make them uncomfortable.
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Speaker 1: Nolan Ryan did it. Certainly Randy Johnson did it. So
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Speaker 1: that was a bygone era. We have now the generation
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Speaker 1: beneath me and then the generation that's coming up and
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Speaker 1: they can't stand that kind of baseball. And you heard
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Speaker 1: it from the Red Sox color analysts last night saying, yeah,
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Speaker 1: of course that's what you would do. You're getting beat
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Speaker 1: around and so you decide to throw at someone and
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Speaker 1: try to hurt them. So there's not much tolerance for
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Speaker 1: that right now, especially from younger baseball.
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Speaker 4: Fans because they're also throwing harder too, So I mean
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Speaker 4: you're risk for injuries.
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Speaker 1: Well, no, harder than Randy Johnson.
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Speaker 2: Well, no, not than Randy.
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Speaker 4: But I'm saying in general, pitchers tend to throw harder
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Speaker 4: than they did.
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Speaker 1: Now there is another side to this, Oh gosh, because
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Speaker 1: there's actually some defense for framberval does here. And I
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Speaker 1: think that you will agree because what was pointed out
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Speaker 1: afterwards and didn't get talked about nearly enough. Yeah, the
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Speaker 1: Boston Red Sox were giving away signs. Yeah, they were
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Speaker 1: standing at second base. Eric Hosmer, who's turned into quite
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Speaker 1: the analyst. He's very interesting, the former first baseman who's
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Speaker 1: spilling it all, like all the tricks that we use
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Speaker 1: to steal signs. Yeah, okay, And he did this long
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Speaker 1: video last night showing you why Framber Valdez was pissed
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Speaker 1: off last night. Now I don't like Framber Valdez either,
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Speaker 1: but hear me out so the Reds. So Hosmer was
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Speaker 1: pointing out, like, this is what's happening. They're relaying the signs.
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Speaker 1: He was he had the whole system.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw it.
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Speaker 1: But what will youa abray who has one foot on
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Speaker 1: the bag, one off the bag, he's relaying a sign.
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Speaker 1: He's trying to tell him that I think I've got
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Speaker 1: the grip. And then if they make contact, then he
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Speaker 1: steps with either steps with both feet onto the bag,
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Speaker 1: or if he steps doesn't step on, then he's relaying
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Speaker 1: sign or he goes to.
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Speaker 2: The other side. If you can't see something like that, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Then he gets the lead and then he taps the helmet.
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Speaker 1: I mean we've seen Josh Naylor do this. Yeah, okay,
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Speaker 1: so this is no I mean, forever, stealing signs has
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Speaker 1: been part of the game, but forever, throwing at hitters
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Speaker 1: who are stealing signs has been part of the game.
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Speaker 1: So we how do we want this to be policed?
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Speaker 4: We shouldn't you grow at the hitter who is stealing
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Speaker 4: the signs? Though, not just he did, but oh story
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Speaker 4: was stealing.
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Speaker 1: Trev's story was the guy that got caught.
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Speaker 2: I thought was a bray you that got caught.
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Speaker 1: Nope, a bray you did it in the video got established.
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Speaker 1: But then when Trevor's story got on base, he stole
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Speaker 1: second so that he now knew we have the signs. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so that's the reason. According to Osmer, he got the
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Speaker 1: second base, so that because he knew that they had
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Speaker 1: the signs down thanks to a bray you, So story
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Speaker 1: starts relaying him. So what Hosmer said was that Valdez
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Speaker 1: got into the dugout and was made aware of what
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Speaker 1: they were doing. So then he goes back out and
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Speaker 1: starts getting beat around again, and he stays out long
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Speaker 1: enough to face Trevor's story, and then he plunks Trevor's
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Speaker 1: story and then the melee ensues. So, look, I get it.
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Speaker 1: Stealing signs has been part of the game, but we
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Speaker 1: the Astros, took it to a whole new level. Osmer
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Speaker 1: explains how far the Dodgers have taken cheating over the years.
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Speaker 1: He calls the masters of it. He said, when he
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Speaker 1: was in Kansas City and they won a World championship,
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Speaker 1: of course he said, we didn't do it that much. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: maybe they did, maybe they didn't, But he did say
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Speaker 1: when we got to San Diego, I got a lesson
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Speaker 1: and how to do it when I went to the
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Speaker 1: Padres and then we found out the Dodgers are masters
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Speaker 1: of it. So, I mean, what other reaction is a
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Speaker 1: pitcher afforded when he's getting embarrassed. He's a good pitcher,
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Speaker 1: it's a very good pitcher, and he's getting embarrassed by
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Speaker 1: a team that may be hitting him only because they
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Speaker 1: know what he's getting ready to throw and they have
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Speaker 1: a system set up that is relaying the signs. Once
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Speaker 1: upon a time, prior to these two generations that I'm
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Speaker 1: talking about, it was perfectly acceptable in baseball's world. If
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Speaker 1: you found out people were stealing your signs or trying
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Speaker 1: to steal your signs, you threw at them. That was
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Speaker 1: what you did. That's how they policed it. Well, if
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Speaker 1: we don't throw at them, how do we police that?
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Speaker 1: Because I can't believe that we're going to defend a
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Speaker 1: team system for stealing signs from a pitcher. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we've seen Josh Naylor do it as well. He's going
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Speaker 1: to get thrown at JT. Gen chirped at him coming
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Speaker 1: off the field a couple of weeks ago. Jo, and
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Speaker 1: I think Josh Naylor's okay with that. Josh Naylor's going
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Speaker 1: to get thrown at, even if he is just faking
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Speaker 1: it leading off second base, He's going to get thrown at,
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Speaker 1: and it's going to happen a lot during the course
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Speaker 1: of the year if he continues to operate that way.
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Speaker 1: But I mean, even though we accept that stealing signs
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Speaker 1: is kind of part of the game, we also don't
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Speaker 1: exp that having some sort of team wide system for
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Speaker 1: relaying the signs. We don't accept that, do we, Right,
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Speaker 1: So what is the reaction? What's a fair and appropriate
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Speaker 1: reaction for a picture who's getting embarrassed by a team
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Speaker 1: that's cheating, technically cheating. What is the fair reaction for
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Speaker 1: a picture to do in that situation to tell them,
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Speaker 1: I know what you're doing, don't ever do it to
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Speaker 1: me again, because it's always been throw at the guy
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Speaker 1: that you know is cheating.
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Speaker 4: And I can totally understand that. I think it and
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Speaker 4: I as far as a team wide system, I mean,
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Speaker 4: if it is you know, we don't accept a team
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Speaker 4: wide system. If you're using outside sources in order to
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Speaker 4: relay the message, right, If you're in the game, you're
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Speaker 4: on the base and you're relaying the signs. I think
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Speaker 4: we've become accustomed to seeing that that's part of it,
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Speaker 4: and it's not even necessarily the signs as much.
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Speaker 1: If I'm a picture, I'm not going to accept that.
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Speaker 2: No, and I understand that.
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Speaker 4: But I'm saying it's the grip, right, So then you
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Speaker 4: have to kind of figure out how is it that
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Speaker 4: I can manipulate my glove or change what I'm doing
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Speaker 4: so that they're not seeing the grip that I've got
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Speaker 4: on the ball, so they don't know what pitch is coming.
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Speaker 4: I can understand the frustrations on both sides. I think
18:05
Speaker 4: where the argument for stealing the signs is going to
18:08
Speaker 4: be ahead of the argument for plunking the batter. Stealing
18:13
Speaker 4: signs isn't going to injure the pitcher, whereas plunking the
18:16
Speaker 4: batter can injure the pitcher or injure the injure the
18:19
Speaker 4: guy who's getting hit. I can understand why Valdez is
18:23
Speaker 4: angry about that. I think I also wouldn't have as
18:25
Speaker 4: hard now.
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of baseball players feel more injured
18:28
Speaker 1: about getting embarrassed than they do having a ball thrown.
18:32
Speaker 4: At them, right, And I can understand the feeling of
18:34
Speaker 4: embarrassment or why you would feel that way, But I'm
18:37
Speaker 4: saying in terms of who actually is going to get
18:39
Speaker 4: injured in the situation, it's the person that's getting thrown
18:41
Speaker 4: at with the higher possibility of getting injured than the
18:44
Speaker 4: pitcher who's getting.
18:45
Speaker 1: But Bucky, I can hear Bucky right now. It's a
18:47
Speaker 1: ball of yarn. Like he threw it in the middle
18:49
Speaker 1: of his back. Yeah, Like if he threw it at
18:51
Speaker 1: his face or his head, he's not going to get
18:53
Speaker 1: injured from that getting hit in the middle of the back. Yeah.
18:57
Speaker 2: And I get that. That's how they police it. Understand
19:00
Speaker 2: all of that exactly.
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Speaker 1: So what is what should he do?
19:03
Speaker 3: Then?
19:04
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.
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Speaker 4: I guess I don't have an answer for how Well,
19:09
Speaker 4: unless you eliminate both, well, here's here, send them both.
19:11
Speaker 1: Here's my answer to them both. Here's my answer. Don't
19:14
Speaker 1: cheat and you don't have to worry about that. Yeah, Okay,
19:17
Speaker 1: I don't like it either. I don't like pictures getting
19:20
Speaker 1: lit up and then they throw at somebody just because
19:22
Speaker 1: they're angry, And I think Frambervaldes is perfectly.
19:25
Speaker 3: Capable of doing something like that, like you're.
19:28
Speaker 1: I'm getting embarrassed, I'm losing it before someone's gonna pay
19:31
Speaker 1: for it. I'm not trying to defend framber Valdes. I
19:34
Speaker 1: think he's a jerk, But what I am saying is
19:37
Speaker 1: what they were doing is plunk worthy. Yeah, and you
19:41
Speaker 1: have a team system set up and you're stealing signs
19:45
Speaker 1: or grip or whatever they can and you're raylaying that information.
19:49
Speaker 1: Really the only thing a pitcher can do in that situation.
19:53
Speaker 1: I mean, if you change, okay, hide it, better change
19:57
Speaker 1: your grip. But if you don't realize you're doing it,
19:59
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, you've given up ten
20:01
Speaker 1: runs and you're absolutely embarrassed, and you've played your team
20:05
Speaker 1: out of the game, and then you find out later
20:07
Speaker 1: it's because they've been stealing signs. I get why people
20:10
Speaker 1: will be angry, and it was always acceptable to show
20:13
Speaker 1: some of that anger and that frustration by throwing at
20:16
Speaker 1: someone that's always been part of the major league game.
20:20
Speaker 1: So I don't think this is as cut and dry
20:22
Speaker 1: this time as framber Valdez is a jerk and the
20:25
Speaker 1: Boston Red Sox are victims. I think they were jerks,
20:29
Speaker 1: they got caught being jerks, and Framber Valdez has showed
20:32
Speaker 1: them I can be an even bigger jerk. Yeah, that's
20:34
Speaker 1: what I think went down. So this isn't just the
20:37
Speaker 1: Red Sox were completely innocent and Framber Valdez is the
20:40
Speaker 1: complete villain. I think they were both acting very villainous.
20:43
Speaker 4: Well, I think, yeah, both of them are at fault
20:45
Speaker 4: for the way the whole thing played out, because yes,
20:47
Speaker 4: you would assume he's not giving up that many runs
20:50
Speaker 4: and he's not getting that angry if they're not stealing
20:53
Speaker 4: the signs. What I was going to say earlier is
20:55
Speaker 4: I also will say I don't think I would be
20:57
Speaker 4: as bothered by somebody throwing at somebody else if it
21:00
Speaker 4: wasn't Framber Valdez. So I feel like we've had this
21:02
Speaker 4: situation with a lot and it hasn't been because his
21:05
Speaker 4: signs are being steeled or his pitches are being tipped
21:07
Speaker 4: or anything like that. I mean, it's because he's a
21:11
Speaker 4: hothead and he gets irritated easily, and then he plunks people,
21:15
Speaker 4: including his own catcher. So I don't have a lot
21:17
Speaker 4: of sympathy for Framber in this situation, but I can
21:19
Speaker 4: understand how both sides are at fault.
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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you this, if any Mariner pitcher has
21:24
Speaker 1: given up ten runs through three innings and is being
21:27
Speaker 1: made bias manager, you got aware of this one and
21:31
Speaker 1: you got to go up and they continue to do it,
21:34
Speaker 1: and like, oh, you're gonna even You're gonna pile on
21:37
Speaker 1: even more. And one of our pictures throws at one
21:40
Speaker 1: of the hitters that is doing on another team, I
21:43
Speaker 1: will be here to defend that picture. Yeah, so it's
21:45
Speaker 1: hard for me not to at least offer some different
21:48
Speaker 1: defense or Framber valde And.
21:50
Speaker 4: As I said, I understand both sides, they're both at fault.
21:54
Speaker 4: If it wasn't Framber Valdez, I'd have a lot more sympathy.
21:56
Speaker 4: But it is because this isn't his first incident, So
21:59
Speaker 4: that's where I lose some of the sympathy for him.
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Speaker 1: Osmer also pointed out that one of the most one
22:05
Speaker 1: of the biggest changes to the game, and this kind
22:07
Speaker 1: of speaks to how much this stuff goes on. One
22:10
Speaker 1: of the biggest changes of the offseason was not ABS challenge,
22:15
Speaker 1: was Major League Baseball saying that first and third base
22:19
Speaker 1: coaches have to stay in the box. You know that
22:22
Speaker 1: box that they have over there, And for years they
22:26
Speaker 1: were just allowed to stand anywhere. Well, there's a box,
22:30
Speaker 1: they're supposed to stand in it. The reason they were
22:32
Speaker 1: standing anywhere is because they were trying to steal signs
22:36
Speaker 1: and that they would find the best way to look
22:39
Speaker 1: in at the catcher and try to relay information to
22:43
Speaker 1: the hitter. And the fact that they have forced them
22:46
Speaker 1: to stay in the boxes, they now no longer have
22:49
Speaker 1: the opportunity to find the perfect angle. So this stuff's
22:53
Speaker 1: been going on for a long time, but so is
22:55
Speaker 1: throwing pitchers throwing at hitters who are trying to get
22:59
Speaker 1: an un fair advantage against them. And both have been
23:03
Speaker 1: in play for a long period of time. And as
23:05
Speaker 1: you said, you allow to police it yourself. So if
23:08
Speaker 1: you're gonna be angry at Framber, and I don't have
23:11
Speaker 1: a problem with people being angry at Framber, be angry
23:14
Speaker 1: at the Red Sox too, because I'm going to tell
23:15
Speaker 1: you right now, if I was pitching and I find
23:17
Speaker 1: out I gave up ten runs because they were relaying
23:20
Speaker 1: signs and they weren't meeting me, even Steven, I'm throwing
23:23
Speaker 1: at somebody. Yeah, but isn't it I am throwing it?
23:25
Speaker 4: Isn't it interesting though, that Major League Baseball is implemented
23:28
Speaker 4: penalties for people who throw at people like that in
23:30
Speaker 4: that situation, But there's no penalty for standing on second
23:33
Speaker 4: base and relaying a sign back to your teammates.
23:35
Speaker 2: So they clearly don't have a problem with one. I
23:39
Speaker 2: don't know.
23:39
Speaker 4: Maybe, so maybe Major League Baseball needs to get rid
23:42
Speaker 4: of that as well and start implementing penalties for relaying
23:45
Speaker 4: signs if you want to get rid of all of it.
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Speaker 1: All right, Mike Benon's next on kJ R, All right,
24:10
Speaker 1: chuck it back in the Morning's here on a Wednesday,
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three k j R f M.
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Speaker 1: We are expecting to be joined by Mike Menton here,
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Speaker 1: but I think we're having some difficulty. Oh do we
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Speaker 1: do have him? We do have him on the line,
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Speaker 1: So joining us now on the program. Everything crack and
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Speaker 1: runs through Mike Benton's filter. It is Sports Radio ninety
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Speaker 1: three point three k j R FM's own Michael Benton.
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Speaker 1: How are you doing, sir?
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Speaker 6: Good morning, Chuck.
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Speaker 3: Always a pleasure.
24:41
Speaker 1: You're dropping off dropping off. Yeah, dropping the kids off
24:46
Speaker 1: of the school today.
24:46
Speaker 3: What are you doing?
24:48
Speaker 6: Yeah, kids are all settled in. This is kind of
24:50
Speaker 6: the off season thing, you know what I mean. So
24:52
Speaker 6: it's it's lather rinse. It's lather rinse routine. Let lather
24:56
Speaker 6: rens repeat. As far as the routine. The wife's car
24:59
Speaker 6: got to the shop, so we're down to one car,
25:01
Speaker 6: and you know, it's it's kind of it's kind of
25:04
Speaker 6: nice Verres maybe at this time of year where it
25:06
Speaker 6: happens versus stay in the middle of March. So I
25:08
Speaker 6: can't complain. It's all about silver linings, right exactly.
25:13
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about what happened last night with the
25:16
Speaker 1: NHL lottery. I mean, I'm just gonna be blunt with you.
25:21
Speaker 1: I think the NBA lottery is flat out rigged. I
25:25
Speaker 1: am one of the most vocal people about that in
25:28
Speaker 1: sports talk radio. I think it absolutely is rigged. Do
25:32
Speaker 1: hockey people feel as passionate about the NHL lottery? Because
25:36
Speaker 1: I heard some stuff last night about boy that seems fishy.
25:40
Speaker 1: Every time the maple leafs are in the lottery, they
25:42
Speaker 1: win it. So do hockey people feel that way about
25:46
Speaker 1: their own lottery?
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Speaker 6: Well, if I can put it this way, it's kind.
25:51
Speaker 1: Of funny how it worked out. Shock.
25:53
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't want to go there and be
25:54
Speaker 6: that guy and assume that it basically is rigged, but
25:58
Speaker 6: I mean, hey, listen, it's it's just kind of funny
26:00
Speaker 6: how it works out. Where you know, you have the
26:03
Speaker 6: Maple Leaves, who you know might be this close to
26:06
Speaker 6: tearing it down ten years ago, they got Austin Matthews.
26:08
Speaker 6: All of a sudden boom, they fall into the first
26:11
Speaker 6: overall pick and moved up from five, and they're basically
26:13
Speaker 6: getting the first rights here to Gavin McKenna. Then you
26:17
Speaker 6: have Chicago getting Connor Bdard. Then you have you know,
26:20
Speaker 6: San Jose trying to get back on track with no
26:22
Speaker 6: Joe Thornton, no Patrick Marlowe. And you know, they had
26:25
Speaker 6: to go through some leanears, but they got map In Celabrini.
26:28
Speaker 6: But then I even go back to when Pittsburgh was
26:32
Speaker 6: nearly bankrupt and were on the verge of moving about
26:35
Speaker 6: twenty years ago, and then they wind up with a
26:37
Speaker 6: guy moving on from Mario Lemu to a guy named
26:39
Speaker 6: Sidney Crosby. And then you you know, throw in the
26:42
Speaker 6: fact that last year the New York Island are supposed
26:45
Speaker 6: to get the All Star Game that gets moved out
26:47
Speaker 6: because of the Olympics. They have an NHL event that
26:51
Speaker 6: was scheduled as kind of like an Olympics send off.
26:55
Speaker 6: Then the powers that be realized maybe that's not so
26:58
Speaker 6: much of a good idea, and all of a sudden,
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Speaker 6: the Islanders, with this limits of margins, you know, wind
27:03
Speaker 6: up with first overall and get Matthew Schaeffer. So, I mean,
27:07
Speaker 6: you know, the good son of me and my shoulders says, hey,
27:10
Speaker 6: this is just how the lottery balls just kind of
27:12
Speaker 6: fall into place. But I mean, it's twenty twenty six, man,
27:16
Speaker 6: you never know. It's just funny how things work out.
27:18
Speaker 6: But where the krack can wind up now in seventh overall,
27:22
Speaker 6: this is gonna be kind of, I think, a big
27:23
Speaker 6: decision for them because you have a player who's going
27:26
Speaker 6: to be very serviceable, but he could be about two
27:28
Speaker 6: or three years away, which then leads this into the
27:31
Speaker 6: conversation of from about two weeks ago, they want to
27:34
Speaker 6: be aggressive and overturn of the roster. Again, we've heard
27:37
Speaker 6: this once more so now you have the conversation opening.
27:41
Speaker 6: How useful can that pig be if you find the
27:44
Speaker 6: right guy out there to immediately upgrade the roster, because
27:48
Speaker 6: that's what it might cost plus more to.
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Speaker 3: Get that done.
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, and yeah, that would be my thought.
27:54
Speaker 1: And then kind of combining the two, I mean, if
27:57
Speaker 1: they're not happy with Austin Matthews in Toronto and now
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Speaker 1: they've got McKenna to replace him and start this new era,
28:05
Speaker 1: what would it take to priy Matthews loose from Toronto. Well,
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Speaker 1: I'll start with the seventh overall pick.
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Speaker 6: I think you had to start there and go a
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Speaker 6: bit higher. And I'm talking about multiple picks, Chuck, I'm
28:18
Speaker 6: talking about roster players maybe, But I think it's very
28:22
Speaker 6: much an unknown because of how much the shakedown has gone,
28:26
Speaker 6: you know, to every corner on this Maple Leafs roster,
28:29
Speaker 6: which even includes a brand new GM and John Shaka
28:32
Speaker 6: who just got there about two weeks ago. So how
28:34
Speaker 6: Jason Botterl maneuvers this we don't know yet. But here's
28:38
Speaker 6: I think the biggest challenge of this in that Austin
28:41
Speaker 6: Matthews has got as much control over this presumably as
28:45
Speaker 6: anybody else I think, just based on the years that
28:47
Speaker 6: he's played. Plus also he has a no movement clause,
28:51
Speaker 6: and so he's got you know, basically full rights to
28:55
Speaker 6: where he wants to go and kind of control this
28:57
Speaker 6: thing with a salary that's already at thirteen point two
29:00
Speaker 6: million and has got two more years to go. Ken
29:03
Speaker 6: the Kracken make that fit absolutely. The problem is it's
29:07
Speaker 6: gonna be fierce competition should he move on to get
29:10
Speaker 6: a player like that. Utah, I hear is very much
29:13
Speaker 6: in the mix. Los Angeles. They're moving on from anj
29:16
Speaker 6: Co Patar. They're a star driven market. They want against
29:19
Speaker 6: somebody else in there that that city is really heating
29:22
Speaker 6: up as far as the conversation. So it's going to
29:25
Speaker 6: take a lot, and I think going to take a
29:28
Speaker 6: lot as far as you know, getting a player like
29:30
Speaker 6: him here to convince him to move, but also be
29:33
Speaker 6: a part of something where the Kraken may be a
29:36
Speaker 6: bit further back behind, you know, Utah versus Los Angeles.
29:40
Speaker 6: So I kind of go back to the artimyth an Arronthingchuck.
29:42
Speaker 6: You might recall that about roughly three months ago when
29:46
Speaker 6: they nearly got him of the deadline, but he wasn't
29:48
Speaker 6: going anywhere but Los Angeles, and he had full control
29:51
Speaker 6: over this. So to find the right guy. It's going
29:54
Speaker 6: to take the right kind of hall. But for Austin Matthews,
29:57
Speaker 6: my goodness, if he moves on, you're talking about a
29:59
Speaker 6: king's ransom.
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Speaker 3: Part of the expression.
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Speaker 1: He can still play, right, I mean he hasn't. He
30:03
Speaker 1: didn't have a very good year this year, but he
30:05
Speaker 1: can still play right.
30:06
Speaker 6: No, he can see absolutely, he can still play. He's
30:09
Speaker 6: only twenty eight years of aase chuck that's basically prime
30:12
Speaker 6: years in the NHL. He just basically he was basically
30:15
Speaker 6: held back just by a Maple Leaf team that was
30:17
Speaker 6: going absolutely nowhere. They've had just a complete decimated culture,
30:22
Speaker 6: just overtake their entire dressing room and their entire locker
30:27
Speaker 6: room and their entire leadership here for this past year.
30:30
Speaker 6: I mean, to get a guy who's got twenty seven
30:32
Speaker 6: goals and fifty three points and call that a massive
30:35
Speaker 6: down year is a major ad. He's still got capabilities
30:38
Speaker 6: of going to eighty ninety one hundred points. He did
30:41
Speaker 6: sort of one hundred point mark about a couple of
30:43
Speaker 6: years ago and nearly got seventy goals.
30:45
Speaker 1: So I mean, he's a.
30:47
Speaker 6: Big rock that you need. Right in the middle of
30:49
Speaker 6: one scene, just the biggest issue here is just the
30:52
Speaker 6: competition that's going to be out there to get somebody
30:55
Speaker 6: like him and find a trade package that is going
30:58
Speaker 6: to match overtake that or even when it comes to
31:00
Speaker 6: extension time and give him all that he wants.
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Speaker 1: Is McMahon still number one priority for the Crack in
31:06
Speaker 1: this offseason?
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Speaker 6: Yes, absolutely, because I think they showed him enough as
31:11
Speaker 6: far as where he fits, how that shot fits in
31:14
Speaker 6: this lineup, the speed that he plays with, and it
31:17
Speaker 6: just checks off all the boxes as far as the
31:19
Speaker 6: kind of guy that they want to use with the
31:23
Speaker 6: gradual overturn of this roster. I mean we're well past,
31:26
Speaker 6: you know, year one, year two where this is all about,
31:29
Speaker 6: you know, Jared McCann, Jaden Schwartz, et cetera, et cetera.
31:34
Speaker 6: Jordan neverly signed up here for the next two years.
31:36
Speaker 6: He wants to be a part of the cure and
31:38
Speaker 6: not part of the disease here, if I can use
31:40
Speaker 6: that expression. So, you know, getting a guy like McMahon,
31:43
Speaker 6: this was you know, going through a few channels including
31:46
Speaker 6: Lane Lambert. He knows what he got or he knew
31:49
Speaker 6: what he got out of him because he coached him
31:51
Speaker 6: last year in Toronto. He plays a kind of straightforward,
31:54
Speaker 6: straight line game. That's a term that's often used in
31:57
Speaker 6: the NHL to cut the tell, talk about a guy
32:00
Speaker 6: who is willing to go to the net, not move
32:02
Speaker 6: around to the outside, and quite frickkly, there have been
32:05
Speaker 6: too many players who have played, you know, that opposite
32:08
Speaker 6: type of way for the first four years, and not
32:10
Speaker 6: enough guys who play the way that kind of like
32:13
Speaker 6: McMahon plays. With the differences, though, is a shot that
32:16
Speaker 6: he possesses as an absolute game changer, and we saw
32:18
Speaker 6: what he can do playing with Maddy Veneer's, we saw
32:21
Speaker 6: what he can do playing with Chandler Stevenson. He's not
32:23
Speaker 6: exactly a guy who is reliant on one guy, and
32:26
Speaker 6: that's what's so valuable. Will they have to overpay for him.
32:30
Speaker 6: I've said this before, I'll say it again, absolutely, And
32:34
Speaker 6: I think the even trickier challenge here, Chuck, is that
32:37
Speaker 6: this free agent class is so paper thin right now.
32:41
Speaker 6: There's just not much talent out there. The salary cap
32:43
Speaker 6: went up, You've got teams who are reupping guys left
32:47
Speaker 6: and right, and less star are hit in the market
32:49
Speaker 6: now these days. So it's going to take a massive
32:52
Speaker 6: play to get him here. I think the big difference though,
32:55
Speaker 6: is that he understands the new beginnings he had here
32:58
Speaker 6: versus what he got out of in Toronto. And it's
33:02
Speaker 6: not like he just got through off the play in
33:04
Speaker 6: game eighty two and said I'm cleaning out my locker
33:07
Speaker 6: see you later. He was hanging around for about a
33:09
Speaker 6: few days in town golf trip with plenty of a
33:12
Speaker 6: few cracking teammates. So you know, the press is already
33:16
Speaker 6: on to basically keep him here, to get him to
33:18
Speaker 6: stay long term. And you know we heard it, you
33:21
Speaker 6: know from us, we heard it from me and show
33:23
Speaker 6: he likes what he has right now. But I mean,
33:25
Speaker 6: if you're McMahon, you'd be a fool to not say, hey,
33:27
Speaker 6: I want to see what's maybe out there because I'm
33:29
Speaker 6: an undrafted free agent and I want to see what
33:32
Speaker 6: could be there for the big payday because it may
33:34
Speaker 6: be my only big payday right now. So I like
33:37
Speaker 6: the chances, but it's going to be it's going to
33:40
Speaker 6: require I think, a waiting game to finally get him
33:42
Speaker 6: locked down here.
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Speaker 1: You are fabulous, sir, Thank you very much for your
33:45
Speaker 1: time for your information uh here this morning, and just
33:49
Speaker 1: thank you for being you, Mike Benton.
33:52
Speaker 6: I appreciate you. I always aspire to be you, and
33:56
Speaker 6: I hope that my car, my wife's car, at least,
33:58
Speaker 6: can get back up and running just like your motor
34:00
Speaker 6: goes in six or ten am. How does that sound?
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Michael, Yeah, you bet. Thanks John Mike.
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Speaker 1: Menton joining us right here on Chuck and Buck in
34:09
Speaker 1: the Morning. Follow him at Benton Underscore. Mike love having
34:13
Speaker 1: him on to talk the Kraken. And yes, it's nice
34:17
Speaker 1: to hear that hockey people are as suspicious as I
34:20
Speaker 1: am about the logies. That's right, it's all rigg. You
34:24
Speaker 1: know it's rig Batman, you were a stern clone rigger.
34:28
Speaker 1: All right, one last thing next Sports Radio ninety three
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Speaker 1: point three kJ RFM, myr final segment of this Wednesday
34:43
Speaker 1: edition of Chuck and Buck in the Mornings, and we
34:45
Speaker 1: get ready to close it out with one last thing
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Speaker 1: here today, Ashley, what do you got?
34:51
Speaker 4: Well, we all know World Company is coming to Seattle
34:55
Speaker 4: this summer, so the Seattle depart what is it, the
35:00
Speaker 4: Gartment of Construction and Inspections put out a tweet today,
35:03
Speaker 4: oh to say Seattle's going all in for the World Cup.
35:06
Speaker 4: Pioneer Square will go pedestrian only on match days near
35:10
Speaker 4: lumen Field. They're expecting seven hundred and fifty thousand visitors
35:14
Speaker 4: total one hundred thousand per match, and their goal is
35:17
Speaker 4: to have eighty percent of those people arriving car free.
35:21
Speaker 4: Great idea theory, and hopefully a lot of those people
35:25
Speaker 4: are staying downtown so they can just walk to and
35:27
Speaker 4: from because if you're asking people to take the trains
35:31
Speaker 4: and you're expecting that many people, it can be a
35:33
Speaker 4: little miserable.
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Speaker 1: Ooh, car free, good luck. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I don't know that we have the full infrastructure there yet.
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Speaker 4: I mean, we do have at least the people are
35:43
Speaker 4: staying in Bellevue, they can take the train across the lake,
35:45
Speaker 4: but you got one route.
35:47
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I've ever gone anywhere and not wanted
35:53
Speaker 1: my car with me, So I'm not saying that's the
35:56
Speaker 1: right thing to do. Yeah, but I do believe I
35:59
Speaker 1: rep a large percentage of human being, of adult human beings.
36:05
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I like, I'll take the train down to
36:07
Speaker 4: It's great, Yeah, to a game, you know, we'll go
36:09
Speaker 4: to a Mariner's game and things like that. But I
36:11
Speaker 4: will tell you it's we're lucky because our stop is
36:14
Speaker 4: the first stop on the on the Sounder or link Light,
36:18
Speaker 4: whichever one is in Linwood. So when you get there,
36:21
Speaker 4: you always have a seat on the train. By the
36:23
Speaker 4: time you get down, it's cramped and standing room onely
36:25
Speaker 4: everyone's squished in and you're passing people at the other
36:29
Speaker 4: stops who are just watching a full.
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Speaker 2: Train go by.
36:32
Speaker 4: After the games, when you have to try to get
36:34
Speaker 4: back on a train, it's pretty miserable waiting in like
36:38
Speaker 4: a sea of people to try to jam your way
36:40
Speaker 4: onto a train.
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Speaker 1: And I'm doing a great job of selling this for
36:44
Speaker 1: the world.
36:44
Speaker 2: I know I'm not.
36:45
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, Like, I love the idea of
36:48
Speaker 4: having eighty percent, so eighty thousand people, right, that's eighty
36:53
Speaker 4: percent of one hundred thousand, eighty thousand people arriving on
36:56
Speaker 4: the train in theory, or the.
36:58
Speaker 1: Bus and then the hotels you can walk.
37:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm saying. So I'm hoping there's a lot
37:04
Speaker 2: of people that.
37:05
Speaker 4: Are just planning on staying downtown because I love the
37:09
Speaker 4: idea in theory, I just we our train system is
37:13
Speaker 4: a little rough, Like for example, when we went to
37:15
Speaker 4: the Mariners game five last year, I think we had
37:18
Speaker 4: to wait three or four trains, and we had Palmer
37:20
Speaker 4: with us, and so I'm like trying to protect her
37:22
Speaker 4: as this crowd people are just trying to shove in
37:23
Speaker 4: from all sides to get on the next train. Some
37:26
Speaker 4: people were taking the train south and then getting off
37:30
Speaker 4: the train there and then catching one north so.
37:32
Speaker 2: They could get on the train without trying to fight
37:34
Speaker 2: the sea of people.
37:35
Speaker 3: Jus.
37:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't know. And that's not eighty thousand.
37:39
Speaker 1: I really for the soccer fan, the Jackson Felts of
37:43
Speaker 1: the world, Oh, they're so exciting. I hope this is
37:45
Speaker 1: this just this everything you ever dreamed it would be.
37:49
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm going to witness it up
37:52
Speaker 1: close in personally.
37:53
Speaker 2: I do know I am not going to.
37:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I recognize it as a monstrous I'm
38:00
Speaker 1: exciting sporting events.
38:02
Speaker 2: I recognize I'm excited to watch it on TV.
38:04
Speaker 3: Yeah.
38:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well I'll just say this, I'll watch some
38:09
Speaker 1: of it on TV. There you go, all right, I'm
38:13
Speaker 1: gonna throw this out there. This happened during our course
38:16
Speaker 1: of our show today. Former Braves owner and media mogul
38:19
Speaker 1: Ted Turner passed away here this morning. Or at least
38:23
Speaker 1: we got the news this morning. I have a Ted
38:27
Speaker 1: Turner story. I was at the nineteen eighty six World Series,
38:32
Speaker 1: covering it first World Series that I'd ever covered as
38:35
Speaker 1: a professional broadcaster, and I was green at the gills.
38:41
Speaker 1: I mean, I've never done it before. I'm also from
38:43
Speaker 1: southern Illinois and went to a small college and had
38:47
Speaker 1: never been in the big city, never been to New York.
38:50
Speaker 1: So here i am at Yankee Stadium doing something for
38:53
Speaker 1: the first time, in New York for the first time,
38:55
Speaker 1: covering the World Series for the all these first and
38:58
Speaker 1: so I'm not I'm just I'm worried I'm going to
39:01
Speaker 1: screw up at every given moment. Well, I had at
39:05
Speaker 1: that time, we had a handheld tape.
39:07
Speaker 3: Recorder that I use to do interviews, yea.
39:10
Speaker 1: And so I'm carrying it around and I'm making sure
39:13
Speaker 1: that it's ready to go, so if I do run
39:15
Speaker 1: into anyone, that I've got right there ready to go,
39:19
Speaker 1: and i can just press record.
39:21
Speaker 3: And I'm ready.
39:21
Speaker 4: Okay.
39:22
Speaker 1: So I'm inspecting it, making sure that it's perfect, and
39:26
Speaker 1: I'm not even really watching what's going on. All I
39:28
Speaker 1: know is I'm trying to get on an elevator, and
39:31
Speaker 1: so I just go with the crowd. I follow the
39:33
Speaker 1: crowd into an elevator and I get on the elevator
39:37
Speaker 1: and I look up and the first thing that I
39:39
Speaker 1: see are these security guards, massive security guards, staring like
39:44
Speaker 1: death into me. And I'm like, what did I do?
39:48
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting here, just poor kid, yeah, trying to
39:52
Speaker 1: record an interview at some point. And then I look
39:55
Speaker 1: over and standing in the elevator with me, oh man,
40:01
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, oh my, Ted Turner and Jane Fonda. Wow,
40:09
Speaker 1: they were all in the elevator and me, Okay, I
40:12
Speaker 1: was not supposed to get on that elevator. Yeah, that's
40:16
Speaker 1: what I realized right away. I'm not supposed to be
40:19
Speaker 1: on this and everybody and the reason I even looked
40:22
Speaker 1: up because everybody went quiet. Everybody was talking, and everybody
40:27
Speaker 1: and laughing, and I could hear laughter and everything else,
40:29
Speaker 1: and you know, getting ready to go to a baseball game, right,
40:32
Speaker 1: and then everybody went quiet, And that's when I looked up,
40:35
Speaker 1: and then I saw the security and then I look.
40:38
Speaker 2: Over, Oh my gosh, what did you do?
40:42
Speaker 1: Nothing. I just was like, I just thought to myself,
40:45
Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to be on here. I didn't say
40:47
Speaker 1: a word.
40:48
Speaker 2: I wish I would have said I know something.
40:51
Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to be on this elevator, am I Yeah,
40:55
Speaker 1: I want.
40:55
Speaker 2: To do an interview real quick.
40:58
Speaker 1: I love Kat Bloo Jane.
41:03
Speaker 2: It would been great.
41:03
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