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The Sacking of Doug Pederson, New Coach Search, Peter Carline of The Athletic Joins · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It's fifteen degrees in Jacksonville. It's three in black brass
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  Speaker 1: monkeys in Brighton. I actually had never heard of that
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  Speaker 1: phrase before Key, until today, but there would go.
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  Speaker 2: We have you're such a side line.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I am quite a few listeners in
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  Speaker 1: Florida as well. I wonder if they're currently googling that
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  Speaker 1: brass monkeys. Now. This is Teal Talk, the official Jacksonville
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars UK and Island podcast, presented by Gallagher. I'm Jay Lawrence,
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  Speaker 1: no relation. He's Key Ramsuran and this is our last
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  Speaker 1: Teal Talk of the season, but we will be back
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  Speaker 1: once a month. Yeah, I was about to say you
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  Speaker 1: got to give a yay. Then back once a month
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  Speaker 1: to talk all things Jags in the off season. We're
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  Speaker 1: talking the draft, of course, re signings, injury rehabs.
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  Speaker 3: I've got no doubt.
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  Speaker 1: And in the next podcast at the end of January,
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  Speaker 1: we're probably actually gonna be reacting to something quite big
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  Speaker 1: new the new Jackuar's head coach. I know Doug Peterson
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  Speaker 1: didn't have time for breakfast on Monday morning?
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  Speaker 3: Did it before? He was fine?
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  Speaker 1: As head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars. We will talk
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  Speaker 1: about that we'll talk about possible replacements, all things NFL
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  Speaker 1: and Jags. In this episode of Till Talk, we will
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  Speaker 1: make our early Super Bowl picks.
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  Speaker 3: And we'll do it all in the.
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  Speaker 1: Company of the athletics NFL reporter in the UK Man.
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  Speaker 1: It has been in the NFL UK scene for a while.
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  Speaker 1: Peter Carline will introduce Peter in a second, but first key,
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  Speaker 1: we need to talk about it ever sober briefly, only
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  Speaker 1: because it feels like it's a It just sums up
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  Speaker 1: the Jags season as a whole. Another narrow defeat for
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  Speaker 1: the Jags. I don't feel like we need to go
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  Speaker 1: into the game that much, but it just feels like,
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  Speaker 1: come on, we have said this so much.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, as I was writing the TV show this week, Jay,
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  Speaker 2: I thought, oh, another one score game. I wonder what
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  Speaker 2: would have happened if the Jags had scored an extra
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  Speaker 2: touchdown in each game? And the podcast would have been
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  Speaker 2: very different? Is the answer to that question?
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  Speaker 3: Can you what would have been?
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  Speaker 1: Do you know what?
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  Speaker 3: I believe?
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  Speaker 2: Three and one?
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  Speaker 1: Wow? Wow, and even just a few of even just
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  Speaker 1: a few different you know, even a few victories out
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  Speaker 1: of those would change it massively, wouldn't it. It's funny,
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  Speaker 1: isn't it just one? But you know what, as we've
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  Speaker 1: said before, it's happened. They didn't exactly The point is.
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  Speaker 1: The point is it didn't. Let's just put a bow
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  Speaker 1: on it. We don't need to talk about it too much,
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  Speaker 1: do we. We need to be aware that it has
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  Speaker 1: happened and we need to move on. And this is
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  Speaker 1: where I can introduce the athletics Peter Carlin. Peter, thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much for joining us today in the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: We took jacks head coach search in a second, but
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  Speaker 1: let's just ask if you had to sum up, let's
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  Speaker 1: just say, in a sentence, the Jacksonville Jaguars twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: fourth season, how would you describe it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to have to say disappointing. Okay, third year
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  Speaker 4: of Doug Peterson. They've just rewarded Trevor Trevor Lawrence with
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  Speaker 4: a massive deal and they fly into back to back
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  Speaker 4: games in London thinking we can win both of these
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  Speaker 4: like we did last year and we can rock it
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  Speaker 4: into sort of contention. But it was just a non
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  Speaker 4: starter really you then, you know, Brian Thomas Junior is
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  Speaker 4: obviously the highlight of the season, but Trevor Lawrence has
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  Speaker 4: got injured. I mean Peterson want nine and eight, nine
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  Speaker 4: and eight and then four and thirteen, which kind of
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  Speaker 4: sticks out. The low light was they made the Bears
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  Speaker 4: look exceptional at Tottenham, and I mean they do.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I forgot about that. There's a reason
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  Speaker 1: why you forget things, isn't there.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I saw them at Wembley and the first
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  Speaker 4: quarter you think, crikey, he's going to get sacked.
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  Speaker 2: Here.
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  Speaker 4: They were ten yeerl down in the first quarter, and
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  Speaker 4: to their credit, they fought back they won the game,
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  Speaker 4: but it was it was sort of the you know
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  Speaker 4: dead man walking, really wasn't it. You know, you've beaten
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  Speaker 4: Drake Mayn the Patriots, but then you just carried on,
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  Speaker 4: you know, three more wins and.
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  Speaker 2: They swept the Titans. Peter, that's huge.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, who does that? They you know, the team
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  Speaker 4: that's picking number one in the draft. That's a real
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  Speaker 4: feather in the cap.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get let's get onto it, then, shall we? Doub
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  Speaker 1: Peterson fired on Monday after the game. Trent Barki will
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  Speaker 1: remain as general manager. Are we saying, Peter that this
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  Speaker 1: was a foregone conclusion or you think there was there
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  Speaker 1: ever a way that you could see him.
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  Speaker 2: Staying Peterson, I don't think so.
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  Speaker 4: Someone someone's got to carry the can for the They've
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  Speaker 4: taken Trevor Lawrence number one overall pick, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: there's obviously been a decision gone into we want some
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  Speaker 4: kind of quarterback whisper and I hate to mention his name,
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  Speaker 4: and not a quarterback whisper, but a college a college
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  Speaker 4: coach who understands a generational talent, someone who's going to
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  Speaker 4: bring the best out of Trevor Lawrence, and they give
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  Speaker 4: him Evan Maya.
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  Speaker 3: That never happened.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, Ederson comes in and the first year Lawrence looked good.
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  Speaker 4: Lawrence looked great, and you know, you've got the Chargers
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  Speaker 4: game and all the rest of it, and then eight
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  Speaker 4: and three. Suddenly from eight and three, it's another one
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  Speaker 4: and five. And when a team does that, when a
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  Speaker 4: team is the destinies in their hands, you know, this
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  Speaker 4: is brilliant back to back playoff seasons for the Jags.
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  Speaker 4: But they couldn't do it. And then that form just
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  Speaker 4: carried on, isn't it into this season? And to me,
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  Speaker 4: I was surprised that he lasted that long, because you
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  Speaker 4: can get a. You know, you look at what's going
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  Speaker 4: on in the Jets, you think there's a rable out there.
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  Speaker 4: Come on, let's you know. You've tried the college coach,
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  Speaker 4: You've tried the offensive Super Bowl winner. Now now surely
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  Speaker 4: you know the NFL you do the opposite. You want
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  Speaker 4: the gruff, defensive minded coach. Rabel's the best guy out there.
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  Speaker 4: Do what you can to get him.
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  Speaker 1: Chad can't said that the offense and the defense are
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  Speaker 1: incredibly predictable. So he's going to be looking for unpredictability
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  Speaker 1: in the next head coach. I'm not quite sure whatever
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  Speaker 1: way that you know, I take that, you know, but
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  Speaker 1: it does make me think.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder if you know, no reason to think this,
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  Speaker 3: but I wonder.
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  Speaker 1: If he'll be looking at another offensive coach.
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  Speaker 3: But maybe I think.
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  Speaker 2: That's too predictable. Jay, I think he's going to go
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  Speaker 2: for one of his aw wrestlers.
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  Speaker 3: I think you'll get unpredictability there. Yeah, I think you
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  Speaker 3: definitely will.
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  Speaker 1: We The Jags have actually, as you know, we're recording
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  Speaker 1: this on Tuesday. As of this afternoon, they've requested interviews
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  Speaker 1: with Lions defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn, Lions offensive coordinator Ben
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  Speaker 1: Johnson and Buck's offensive coordinator Liam Cohen.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I've missed anybody.
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  Speaker 1: There's a chance I might have missed somebody, but I
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  Speaker 1: think it's just those three as it stands.
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  Speaker 3: We that's I mean, it's not that surprising.
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of teams are going to be
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  Speaker 1: interested in those in those guys, to be honest with you,
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  Speaker 1: particularly the two from the Lions. Ben Johnson was the
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  Speaker 1: hottest candidate last off season, and it didn't he didn't
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  Speaker 1: decide to join any team. It looks like maybe, especially
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  Speaker 1: if the Lions were to win a Super Bowl this year,
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  Speaker 1: maybe he would, you know, uproute and and join a
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  Speaker 1: team as a different team as head coach.
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  Speaker 3: Now, would that be your number one choice? Peter?
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  Speaker 1: Any team that eloa I suppose the Jags, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: is it for any team.
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  Speaker 2: For the Jags?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think. I think Ben Johnson what he's done
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  Speaker 4: with Jared Goff, But Detroit have have built from from
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  Speaker 4: the trenches, and I'm not I'm not convinced that that
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  Speaker 4: Jacksonville have done that. Look at look at the brick
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  Speaker 4: wall in front of Jared Goff. If that if the
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  Speaker 4: Jags had that kind of roster then then absolutely. But
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  Speaker 4: but the Jags do have a lot going for them.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you've got Trevor Lawrence, You've got Brian Thomas,
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  Speaker 4: you've got a new ground coming, You've got an easy division,
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  Speaker 4: you've got a lovely facility. Go out sell these things.
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  Speaker 4: Ben Johnson can pretty much go where he wants, can't he?
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  Speaker 4: And is he Is he going to be malleable enough
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  Speaker 4: to have a general manager that he may not get
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  Speaker 4: on with. He can, he can pick where he wants,
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  Speaker 4: and he might he might just think no, I'll just
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  Speaker 4: stay in Detroit again for another year. I mean, I
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  Speaker 4: think I think Vrabel's probably to me the guy that
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  Speaker 4: would be the ideal choice. But he has an emotional titan.
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  Speaker 1: And he's interviewing for a bunch of different teams as
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  Speaker 1: well over the days as well. You know, former Jags
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  Speaker 1: callback Mark Brunow says that Ben Johnson is interested in
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  Speaker 1: the job and likes the idea of Trevor and the offense.
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  Speaker 3: There we go. So the thing is is what I
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  Speaker 3: think I do think.
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  Speaker 1: I know you you bring up a point there, Peter,
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  Speaker 1: but it is there there is a consensus that the
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  Speaker 1: Jags job will be an appealing one, no matter, there
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  Speaker 1: are worse jobs to have than the Jackson head coaching
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  Speaker 1: job at the moment. And you know, I think there
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  Speaker 1: is also that I do wonder if there is that
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  Speaker 1: that sort of appeal that Trevor Lawrence doesn't seem.
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  Speaker 3: To have hit his potential yet.
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  Speaker 1: And I wonder if if he's an offensive if you're
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  Speaker 1: an offensive mind, you'll think, well, we know he's got
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  Speaker 1: the talent. I think I can bring that out of him.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I guess you would look at have we seen the
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  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence that was at Clemson perform in the NFL
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  Speaker 2: A few games, a few moments. Yeah, overall, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think we have. I don't think we've seen that same
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  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence that was at Clemson perform in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: A coach that is excited to bring that out of him,
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  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, there's huge possibilities there.
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  Speaker 1: And Liam Cohen with the Bucks as well, He's had
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  Speaker 1: a good season. It's been his one season with the
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  Speaker 1: Bucks as offensive coordinator. So I wonder if that will
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  Speaker 1: work against him somehow. I don't know, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: I have no doubt that Jacks will be interviewing loads
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  Speaker 1: more players. Would you key like to see an offensive
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  Speaker 1: mind or a defensive mind be the head coach of
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  Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Janguars in twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm very fortunate that I've sat down with coach
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  Speaker 2: Nielsen that who's had a season at the Jags. When
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  Speaker 2: I heard him talk, I thought, I'm so excited by
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  Speaker 2: what he has to offer. I would like to see
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  Speaker 2: him maintain that position and an offensive minded person come
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  Speaker 2: in as head coach that can mold and gel with
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  Speaker 2: what Coach Nielsen wants to do, so not someone that's
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  Speaker 2: going to come in. I feel like coach Nielsen has
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  Speaker 2: all this vision and has all these things that he
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  Speaker 2: wants to try and do. Whether that clashed with what
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  Speaker 2: Doug Peterson's trying to do, I don't know or what,
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  Speaker 2: but I would like to see Coach Nielsen have another
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  Speaker 2: opportunity to do that, but for someone to come in
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  Speaker 2: with an offensive mind to then bring Trevor Lawrence and
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  Speaker 2: the guys up to a standard that we know that
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  Speaker 2: they can perform because we've seen it. Sometimes this sea
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  Speaker 2: is and the offense has performed really well sometimes last
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  Speaker 2: season the offense performed really well overall, I think they
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  Speaker 2: can take a step forward with an offensively minded head coach.
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  Speaker 2: So I think someone offense would be minded.
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  Speaker 1: I think that Ben Johnson is going to be the
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  Speaker 1: hot candidate as it start like that, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: I want I want a a somebody as a head
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  Speaker 1: coach that is able to utilize the talent that is
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  Speaker 1: on the offense.
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  Speaker 3: And that's not to say that you can't have.
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  Speaker 1: A talented offensive coordinator obviously, but you you want the
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  Speaker 1: best of the best, and you're assuming that your head
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  Speaker 1: coach is going to be one of the best defensive minds.
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  Speaker 1: You hope that they're going to be one of the
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  Speaker 1: best defensive minds in the NFL. So that's what I
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  Speaker 1: would like to see. But you know, Peter, you did
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  Speaker 1: point out a second ago, didn't you. You did this
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  Speaker 1: is the NFL. You You do tend to see opposites,
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  Speaker 1: don't you. Something happens and then it just goes to
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  Speaker 1: the opposite.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, I mean that there's also there's also that
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  Speaker 4: there is of course an element of risk. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: Ben Johnson has been brilliant, but yeah, he's got Dan
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  Speaker 4: Campbell above him taking the Gambles, and we've seen plenty
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  Speaker 4: of offensive coordinators who don't quite make who aren't suited
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  Speaker 4: out to be head coaches. Of course, Minnesota have lucked
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  Speaker 4: out with Kevin O'Connell. But I mean, this is all
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  Speaker 4: kind of by the bar. But you want someone who's
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  Speaker 4: going to bring out the best in in Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 4: And it's not you know, they're not going into a
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  Speaker 4: mad house like the Jets. They're not going into cap
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  Speaker 4: hell like the Saints. So it's not an unattractive coaching opportunity.
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  Speaker 4: But I just hope that they I think they clearly
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  Speaker 4: need someone who is perhaps going to be a little
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  Speaker 4: bit tougher than Peterson. You know what Andro Cisco said
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  Speaker 4: after the Bears game, there's sort of been a bit
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  Speaker 4: of a sort of a not really a calling out coach.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not saying that's necessarily what you need, but I
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  Speaker 4: think certainly when you are a head coach that there
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  Speaker 4: certainly does need to be some accountability. And I think
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  Speaker 4: Jacksonville might benefit from someone who like a Verabel type
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  Speaker 4: character who's probably kind of going to shake stuff up.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to be a very interesting few weeks, isn't it.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, by the time that we do our
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  Speaker 1: next podcast, if we at least we know what we're
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  Speaker 1: going to be leading with.
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  Speaker 3: The lightly it is is we know what we're going
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  Speaker 3: to be leading with.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that the one thing that is obviously going
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  Speaker 1: to be happening over the next few months, and we
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  Speaker 1: will touch upon it, of course in future episodes, is
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  Speaker 1: we now know where the Jacksonville Jaguars are going to
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  Speaker 1: be drafting as well, going to be drafting with the
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  Speaker 1: fifth pick, three picks in the first two rounds. This
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  Speaker 1: is it's going to be a big off season for
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  Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. But there is reason nothing to feel
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  Speaker 1: optimistic about despite the despite the poor season, there's no
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  Speaker 1: doubt about that. You do have reason to feel like
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  Speaker 1: there could be changed, there could be positivity over the
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  Speaker 1: next few months.
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  Speaker 2: Key absolutely. I mean we've talked about him every single
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  Speaker 2: week before the season even started. I remember coming back
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  Speaker 2: from Jacksonville from training camp and going Brian Thomas Jr.
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  Speaker 2: And then this season he's performed, He's been outstanding, like fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: One thing I do want to point out that we
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  Speaker 2: haven't talked about that. I mean, I've talked about Cam
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  Speaker 2: little an inordinate amount really, but actually special teams as
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  Speaker 2: a whole I think have been fantastic this season. I
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  Speaker 2: think that's a huge positive going forwards into next season. So,
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  Speaker 2: Brian Thomas Junior and special teams for me, fantastic this season.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think you've got to talk about special teams
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  Speaker 1: for a second. We actually have some special teams news.
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  Speaker 2: Did you see the video of Cam Little telling that
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  Speaker 2: the guys, No, I haven't. Oh, it's fantastic. Look it
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  Speaker 2: up if you can. It's on the Jaguars UK Socials.
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  Speaker 2: It's really good. So they're having their special teams meeting
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  Speaker 2: and coach coach Heith Farwell calls Cam Little up to
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  Speaker 2: just like give a talk at the end of the
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  Speaker 2: final special teams meeting and at the end Cam says, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so Ross and Logan, you've been really great this season.
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  Speaker 2: Just come up and the boys are just going to
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  Speaker 2: give you a round of applause. Oh and by the way,
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  Speaker 2: you made it into the Pro Bowl. You both start
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  Speaker 2: as well done. It's really nice.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's incredible, isn't it. And of course
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  Speaker 1: that's Rossmatisi. It's two in a row, isn't it For
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  Speaker 1: Ross mattis two in a row. But for Logan Cook
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  Speaker 1: is seventh NFL season, the Jags most tenured player. It
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  Speaker 1: was his first such honor. So that's some incredible stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, as I said before, in a not
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  Speaker 1: overwhelmingly amazing season, you've got to grab onto the positives.
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  Speaker 1: And that's definitely a positive, isn't it. Side note, just
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  Speaker 1: want to remember as well, congratulations to Trevor Lawrence. Trevor
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  Speaker 1: Lawrence who has had a baby, what his wife? His
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  Speaker 1: wife has had a baby.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, what I'll say is Trevor, please carry the baby
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  Speaker 2: with your right arm and let the shoulder rest please.
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  Speaker 1: So congratulations to Marisa and Trevor. Do you know the
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  Speaker 1: baby's name?
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  Speaker 2: Key, I don't actually know.
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  Speaker 3: And I well, it's it's Shaye, So it's Shye Lawrence.
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  Speaker 2: I've always said Shaye. So that's Saylin Lawrence. I always
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  Speaker 2: say because my Mauritian heritage, I always say Jah. So
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  Speaker 2: that baby to me will be J J. Lawrence. It's official.
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  Speaker 2: There we go.
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  Speaker 1: Oh look, I've found a way to make it about me.
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations to those two. Now let's just go on to
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  Speaker 1: the draft for a second. I mean, we'll speak about
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  Speaker 1: it at length obviously the next few months. But Peter,
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  Speaker 1: is there is there you know something that you think
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  Speaker 1: that the Jags need to be looking out? Obviously we've
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  Speaker 1: got free agency in the way. Is there something that
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  Speaker 1: is just so obvious in your mind the Jags need
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  Speaker 1: to be doing this?
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  Speaker 4: Offensive line?
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Was quick?
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Do you do? Do you use your your first round
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: pick at number five for offensive line?
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: That's a that's a good question.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: That's a good question. I think you take the best player,
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: the best player event you either take a cornerback, You
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: either take defensive line or you know, or you take
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: offensive line. They're the glaring weaknesses for me and the
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Drags roster. You you take the best party available there.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Do you trade up for Travis Hunter? That's the no, No,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: you don't do it. Do you take him if he falls?
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I just think staying I mean, that'd be fun, Travis
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Travis Hunter back in Florida. You know, I just think
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: that would be that would be fun. There's a lot
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: to go through anyway this off season, but for the
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: it's over the next few weeks. It's obviously he's going
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: to be you know, a lot a lot going on
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: in lots of people's minds when it comes to the
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: head coaching search. Did you see the comments from Eric
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Halmstead as well, Key, I did. Eric Armstead said straight
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I believe this was straight after the last game of
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: the season as well. He commented in his moom to
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: move to defensive end, saying that he'll be moving back
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: to defensive tackle and he'll be the elite player that
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: he is.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Pretty can't be of the word just honest.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say, Key, no matter who
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: comes in or who's going to be the defensive coordinator,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: whether it's going to be you know, Ryan Nilsen or
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: you know Continuing or whatever. Yeah, it's pretty clear where
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I get Irigas wants to play go forward.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Maybe he's just gone. Do you know what. I tried
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: it for a season and it wasn't as it wasn't
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: what I thought it would be, And I'm going to
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: go back to because he is exceptional in that other position.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: So yeah, Peter, how big this off season is in
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: It's huge.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: This is you know, you need to get Trevor Lawrence back,
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: you need to get him fit, you need to get
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: him firing, and you've got a new stadium you need
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: to get back into into relevance.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Really, what would you like to happen?
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: Can I?
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Can? I say?
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: I would?
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: I think there should have been a clean sweep.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Brutal, brutal, Peter, Okay, before we let you go, Pete, Actually,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: let's talk. Let's just talk playoffs for a second, key
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: as well. Let's just have this conversation. Were now into
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: that period, aren't we. The NFL playoffs is not that
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: long until the super Bowl in New Orleans. Let's get
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: your I'm going to say is early, but it's not
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: actually that early because we know who's going to be
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Your super Bowl pick, please, Peter?
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: That the heart, the heart says, let's have it. Let's
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: have a Bills Lions. Let's have a first time winner.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: That's what I've been saying, that's been saying up for
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: weeks because you know, no matter what then, the super
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Bowl is going to be good. You know that the
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: atmosphere is going to be incredible. The heart says that.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: What does the head say, Peter?
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: The head says that the Kansas City Chiefs will somehow
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: be there again. The Bills will somehow be cursed again
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: in the playoffs and that the Philadelphia will be a
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: repeat of what three years ago and the Eagles and
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: the Chiefs.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, the Ravens is nowhere there.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: No, no, Well, they've got the They've got a nine
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: to three record against winning teams. I can't rule out
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: the Ravens. You're right, but all right, no, I'll throw
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: the Ravens in there. You know, I'd love to see it.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: I would love to see lamar Win. But but that's
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: the same for Josh Allen as well.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Key, I don't care. I think the Jags have still
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: got a chance. No, do you know what I was
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: saying from halfway through the season, I would love to
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: see what You know, when you start to think the
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Jag season isn't looking great, you start to think about, Okay,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: well who do I get to root for in the
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: playoffs if it's not going to be the Jags? And
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: to be honest, I like I like the Lions. I
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: like that whole story. I like the rebuild. I like
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: what they've been doing this season. It just that feels
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: nice to me. I like the Lions for it.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that the Lions are a very much a.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Neutral pick a blue story.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that the story is good, and I
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: think that Dan Campbell is quite a likable guys as
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: a head coach, isn't he?
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: And I'm going to get and then comes to Jacksonville
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Jacksonville so actually, and.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: Then he wins a second ring two years in a row.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: There you go. I like it. I like you.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Peter, you could come back on. You could come back on. Peter,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. And for the record,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I am going Bill's Lions Super Bowl as well. The heart,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: the heart is stronger than the head. Cheers, Peter.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Just to say the opinions of Peter Carline from the
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Athletic are not associated with the Jaguars organization in any way.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, not surprised. It's like it's like there's an asterisk
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: thinking is allowed. Yeah, of course it is. It'd be
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: a concern, agument, was it. Thanks so to Peter for
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: coming on. I mean, end of season.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: That was a good chat. It was nice to have
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: some outside thoughts as well.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, especially when it comes to over
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: the next few weeks. Actually, it could be even over
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: the next month or so, depending on what you know. Happens,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: you know, with the head coaching search, what jag should
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: be looking for and all of that, So it's good
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: to get somebody else on it. Speaking of the end
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: of the season, Key, it is also the end of
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: the season for the NFL for our NFL show, our
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Janquars NFL Show over on sky Sports NFL, which means,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's a big one and if it's not,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: do your job better, Kish, Sorry, sorry, what's going on me.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: This week? It is a big one obviously, end of
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: the season and also big news coming out of Jacksonville
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: on Monday, so there's a lot of discussion about the future.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: JP and Tonia are giving some very interesting opinions definitely
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: worth tuning in for. And MiCT as always, is a
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: really really good one for the end of the season,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: and that is on sky Sports NFL Wednesday at nine pm,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: repeated it throughout the week and then all of the
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: bits broken down onto the Jaguars UK YouTube channel.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Can I say, I know it's been a really big
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: week for the Jacksonville Jaguars, like a really important week,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: like a lot of you know.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Stuff, is it? Yeah?
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Now I try, I've got to say the one thing
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: that I am sure that ninety nine percent of the
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: listeners this podcast have been waiting for is to find
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: out the final standings, the final standings on our dediction table.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: You've waited till the end of the episode to keep
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: people listening, to keep exactly going on. That's exact main
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: news that people are after, isn't it.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: They were listening to this stuff about Doug Peters and thinking,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: all right, come.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: On, get to it, get to it, get to it.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: We predicted, we have predicted schoolline every single week here
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: until talk, and the winner of the standings gets to
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: steal a bit of Jaguars merchandise from the other person. Now,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: about half a season through, it looked like I was
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: going to win it. But in the end, I did.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I did, I did. I did still within it, I
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: did still win it. The final standings key with four?
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: How many wins did the Jags get this this year?
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Four?
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, you can see what happened there, the special guests
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: or the fan every single week they got five and
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: I got seven, which means that I get to pick
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: a bit of Jags merchandise.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Treacherous victory.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: It is a little bit, isn't it I did. I'm
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: not a few of them. I felt guilty. Let's let's
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: go through what you've got because you can watch us
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: on YouTube. By the way, if you're watching this on YouTube,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: you can watch it on YouTube and you can see keys.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Uh you know background right now, which is choker block
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: full of jags merchandise.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Sorry behind you. Can you just talk us through a
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: few of them?
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah? So on this side here is my favorite, which
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: is a bespoke sideway.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Why would you tell me that was favorite? I get
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: to steal something a lot of money.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: I think you're a nice guy and you'll make the
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: right decision.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: JA, that's all right.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: It's something that would fit in the post like the
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: size of a postage stand. That's bespoke artwork. It is
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence with the Stadium of the Future, but in
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: a cyberpunk style because I like eighties stuff.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: What else we got Over this.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Side, you've got a trip tick, which is three individual
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: bespoke artworks of Trevor Lawrence, Tony Biselli and Josh heinz Allan.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Then over here you've got my bespoke because it's all bespoke,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: nice stuff.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Don't take it off me.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: And then here you've got my little Trevor Lawrence figurine.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: That that's my favorite.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: That actually, let's have a look at the figurine. Let's
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: have a look. Can you can you put it to
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: the camera through Trevor Lawrence.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: It is, but it's actually my daughters.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Would you tell me that?
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: She said to me, why don't you give that one
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: to j j would like that one. And his name
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: is Julia. She's really named him Julia.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: You're so scared of losing all your bespoke stuff that
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: you are actually trying to throw trying to throw the
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: big dog under the bus.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: If you're asking me to choose between my bespoke artwork
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: and my daughter j then.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I'm gonna have the figurine. I'm gonna
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: have a figurine. If that makes me an awful person,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I'm an awful person.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: It's easier to post. Let's say that that's the reason.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: But do you know what, do you know what we
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: can do is we can make that trophy that is
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: it is now the trophy and we're going to have
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: that every single year so that if you want to
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: if you want to try and get into your daughter's
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: good books again. You need to be better at predicting
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: so you can win that back next season.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: And little Trevor forward slash Julia might make his way
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: around the country if a fan wins then gets both.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly, all right, we're calling him little Trevor.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: No, I think we should call him Julia.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: All right, Julia is on the way to me bride
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: a place in my background.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: You were right not to assume gender, but there we go.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Yes, I feel quite kind of proud of myself.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: No, you did very well, joy well done, Key, that is.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: But we're not.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: We're not the end of the season. We're done.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: It's the end of the season, but it's not the
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: end of us.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: At the end of us, which is always good to know.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: We're going to be back in a few weeks time,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: aren't we at the end of the month? Where we
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: are we might have news, we might have been news.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: We're excited. It's going to be a big off season
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: for the Jacksonville Jankuis and we're going to be along
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: for the ride, aren't we.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Key, We certainly are. We certainly are. You said your
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: super Bowl to go back on it, you said you're
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: who you was going to be in the Super Bowl.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Who are you rooting for to take it?
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I have no preference Key Jacksonville Jaguars. I root for
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: them to be in the Super Bowl. We'll end the
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: podcast that way.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: The broadcaster, all.
• 28:11
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• 28:13
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• 28:20
  Speaker 3: We'll be back.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: It's been a few weeks time.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Buck