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Lunch with the Clydesdale - Cajun Wednesday | How Big is Cory's Chip? · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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Dallin is out.
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Saxon is in.
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And we're talking about people who have
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chips on their shoulder again today.
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Let's do it now.
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I love the chase and the hunt and
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I set the pace when I'm running.
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I always take what I want and I
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always give it one hundred.
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Don't need a bank, no I'm funded.
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Play the game like it's nothing.
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I'm always thankful for something.
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Don't take for granted, stay humble.
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Now wake up!
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It's time to look at the enemy.
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Look in the mirror if he is no
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friend to me.
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What is going on everybody?
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It is lunchtime.
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Time to get a break from that work
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day, hang out with some friends,
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talk about sports, entertainment,
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and specifically CrossFit.
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What's going on?
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We got Jake in the house, Vicky, Meredith,
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Trent Olive, Jay Birch, Craig Pasley,
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Joseph Ramirez.
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I really wish we could get that just
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to say their names again.
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What's that?
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I'm not, I'm not down.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I hope, I hope YouTube's listening.
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How big is Corey's what?
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No chip.
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definitely chip Andrew Sten with the jokes
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already so I'm listening to Savan this
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morning this is not even close to the
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rails this morning he starts talking about
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Jeremy and looking like the guy from
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digital underground
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Shock G. Now in my head is...
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And that's all I can do.
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That's all I can think of.
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To be fair, that's a fantastic song.
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It is.
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It still holds up today.
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And that song is... Old.
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The video, maybe not.
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I mean,
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Shock G's running around with a fake nose
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and glasses on.
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The song is still a banger.
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They just doing the Humpty Dance.
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Getting busy in the Burger King bathroom,
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man.
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It's fantastic.
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Good stuff.
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He looks like Send Dog from Cypress Hill.
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I've been sending about Jeremy forever.
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All right.
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he does it not look like send all
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from Cypress Hill.
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I will get, I, I agree with, uh,
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with Joseph on that one.
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So I think he's,
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I also see shock day with the nose,
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with the fake nose.
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Uh, Jacqueline,
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haven't seen her in the live chat in
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a while.
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Good to see you.
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Hopefully that means you got a day off
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or something.
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Um,
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I got to meet her at the Fort
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worth games for the first time ever.
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I think.
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Oh, cool.
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Yeah.
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She's at work slacking.
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That's my life.
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So let's hit the big news first and
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then we'll,
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we'll dive into like our other stuff.
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But last night it was announced for
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alan pepper on his instagram uh spin broke
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it as well uh that the bike basically
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i'm going to paraphrase his comments the
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bike workout at socal where he went to
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the wall um gave him rhabdo and he
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is still suffering the effects of that and
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has been advised by his medical team that
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he should take a break for a
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if he wants twenty twenty six to be
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fully recovered.
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So he is out.
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Saxon Pancheck is now in as the backfill.
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So I think we have a couple of
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interesting storylines here.
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One, Saxon Pancheck, the defector,
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the whatever you want to call him,
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coming back and saying a few to WFP,
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I'm going back to CrossFit.
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this can tell his comeback story yeah it's
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a good place way to start right for
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dallin here's a guy that is poised to
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be the next big thing right and how
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does this affect him and i asked kelly
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clark this last night when i was taught
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when we did our little casual conversation
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How does this affect him mentally going
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forward?
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Is he going to be able to push
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to that limit again when he's fighting for
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those points at the games?
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I think he has to.
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I don't think he has a choice.
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And not in the fact that I don't
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think he has a choice,
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or to say that it's either do that
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or nothing.
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I don't think the way he's built,
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he has a choice.
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I don't think that the way his mind
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frame is that he has a choice.
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That like, okay, yeah, I got Rabdo,
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had some lingering effects,
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can't do Rogue, going to get healed up,
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and then we're just going to go back
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to doing what we were doing before.
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I think that added – I don't know
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if it was his comments or if somebody
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was saying something about bring back
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having an offseason.
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And he has been in a lot of
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competitions this year.
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I don't think he got Rabdo –
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on purpose but it's and or by design
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I should say but I don't think it
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was on accident from just the accumulation
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of stuff that he was doing not necessarily
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back to back but I mean it's not
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like he was peeling off training uh or
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pulling back from training in the in the
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meantime I don't feel like that was
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probably a thing right because he wants to
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stay peak you know peak
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shape form for every one of these things
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because he's a competitor and he wants to
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win he's made that abundantly clear he's
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got the capability to as well so it
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sucks i feel horrible for him i've never
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had it i've heard horrible things about it
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um you know definitely not a a fun
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time but maybe just going to give him
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a little bit of a break
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ease back on training a little bit to
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be able to lean back in, you know,
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get ready in time for the open and
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kind of make a good run at the
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games again next year.
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Oh, okay.
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Well, we got frozen Scott.
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This is how we keep Scott fresh.
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He always gets frozen from time to time.
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Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.
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that real good real good high-speed
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internet in Scott's basement out there in
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Columbus and it's just me all right so
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Yes, Shanna, hopefully not too much.
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Thanks, Tristan.
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No pressure.
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Hopefully not too much muscle damage to
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recover from.
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One hundred percent.
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You're never going to get the full story.
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Right.
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That's all they're saying right now that
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he has had rhabdo lingering effects from
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it enough to where they're saying do not
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or would be a bad idea to go
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ahead and compete at Rogue.
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And he's listening to his doctor,
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which is definitely a good thing.
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He's starting one episode of Stranger
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Things Today about time season.
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I dropped you a caught up.
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Thanks, Jacqueline.
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Oh, let me go back up and see.
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Let's see what we got.
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What we got.
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That is a packed comp season.
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Yes.
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Yes, Jacqueline.
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I would one hundred percent agree.
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That is a packed competition season
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between semifinals online or start back at
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the open.
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Right.
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Open semifinals.
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Hey, yes.
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I lost Internet at the house.
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So.
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All right.
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Here we are.
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That's exciting.
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I'm a phone.
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So what I miss.
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Uh, nothing.
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Just me rambling on,
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trying to read a couple of, uh,
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trying to read a couple of content, uh,
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comments.
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Uh, what Bert is saying,
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I think is probably a good, uh,
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or valid.
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I would say saying too many events in
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the bike was the thing that just kind
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of tipped him over the event over there.
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What I was just bringing up was just
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start all the way back at the,
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at the beginning of the year.
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Right.
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Um, the open, did he do, uh,
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He did water Palooza last year.
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Right.
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Um, I think he did team.
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Yeah.
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So even though, so let's go,
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let's start there.
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Water Palooza, the open semifinals,
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the online semifinals,
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that's how he actually qualified.
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Right.
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Then nothing, nothing,
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nothing for the law, whichever,
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whichever WFP events he did,
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which he did two of them.
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Correct.
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He did.
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So that's one, two, three, four.
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That's at least five different things
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before you even get to the games.
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There's the games,
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which obviously he performed at a high
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level.
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And then you get all the way to
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Waza in California.
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It's going to add up after a while,
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or it can add up for a while.
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I mean, dude, that's a lot.
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That's a whole lot.
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Oh, did we lose Scott on the laptop?
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It is.
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I'm coming back in on another way.
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Gotcha.
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Anyway, that's a whole lot of stuff.
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So I feel for a man.
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Oh, all right.
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Now we got two Scotts and one Corey.
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There we go.
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There we go.
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Aaron,
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I don't think it was necessarily from the
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one thing,
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but they're probably pointing to that
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because the echo bike, I mean,
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he tried to rip the handles off of
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it, right?
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I mean,
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if you go back and watch that event
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by itself,
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that's probably the thing he went the
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hardest on.
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And that's probably what they're just
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pointing to and saying, hey,
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this is probably what tipped you over the
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edge right there.
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So the interesting part of the
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conversation,
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I don't know what you guys have been
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talking about,
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and I've missed all the comments because I
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couldn't see them on the phone,
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is when I was talking with Kelly last
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night,
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she has actually seen more Rabdo in
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firemen that she trains than in athletes.
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Because the athletes train to a certain
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level of...
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a tolerance right where the firemen aren't
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trained to for the training of being a
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fireman or she said they go out and
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drink the night before then come in got
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it yes they might come in and then
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all of a sudden they have to go
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at full board try to you know save
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somebody's house save somebody's life uh
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whatever and then they end up getting
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wrapped up
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Yep, yep, yep, yep.
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I believe I am following what you're
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putting down there.
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Oh, let's see.
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Shanna saying kidney damage can be
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mitigated with an IV if caught early.
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Muscle loss can be a problem long-term
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sometimes.
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And I'm wondering,
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I'm hoping that's not the case.
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I don't, you know,
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I don't want to say he seemed fine
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because you can never tell, you know,
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without actually knowing him being inside
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of his house,
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how bad or good or whatever the case
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may be, it actually is.
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Hey, we lost him again.
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Everyone's going to end up being a
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mountain lion.
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I don't know.
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Pepper's going to
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resign not resign what's the word i'm
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looking for retire and start making
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sourdough slinging coffee and uh hawaii
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anytime soon but it's definitely a
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possibility uh anyway that's a one hundred
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percent i feel for the dude i can't
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imagine
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Like,
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I have been lucky in my own time
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competing to not really have any serious
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injuries.
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I had a couple of things that sidelined
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me for a little bit,
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but no more than a week at a
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time.
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Nothing that I had to withdraw from a
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competition that I was about to go do.
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That is for certain.
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That is for certain.
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I feel like...
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So, Aaron,
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I don't know if it can be mitigated
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by fueling properly.
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Hey, all right, back on Scott's phone.
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I swear to God.
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So, anyway, you got it all handled?
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Yeah, I think, I mean,
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that's pretty much where we're at.
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I'm just saying, like,
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I, me personally,
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I've never had anything serious that has
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sidelined me for more than like a couple
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of days at a time.
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You know, I think a week at most.
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So I can't imagine somebody like Dallin
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who is, you know, he's a contender, right?
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He is one hundred percent a contender to
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win, not just be on a podium.
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He's a contender to win the CrossFit
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Games.
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Having to slow down, pull back and
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uh, you know,
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not knock back some of his training,
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especially now that, you know,
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we're basically off season type type stuff
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where you can do a lot of base
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building type stuff.
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Um,
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because the previous year you just ended
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up doing too much, you know, and,
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and I, I,
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Not gonna mention it,
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not gonna mention it,
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but like the people who was always like,
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oh, we want more competitions,
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we want more stuff, we want more stuff.
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You got more stuff, this is what happens.
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It was bound to happen sooner or later.
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Maybe not to him necessarily,
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but it was bound to happen sooner or
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later.
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So people are asking me to turn my
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phone.
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This is the only way I can see
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the comments.
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So you're stuck with it this way.
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You got Letterboxd, Scott.
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It's fine.
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It's not a big deal.
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The opposite of, anyway.
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Everybody's got limits.
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Yep.
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And I think that's what it shows.
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My biggest concern is,
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is he willing to push to that limit
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in the future?
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I think he will be.
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I think if you...
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from an athlete's perspective, right?
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From an athlete perspective, um,
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you can't, if you,
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if you're going to be fearful going in,
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you just do not go.
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Cause you're going to end up, you know,
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if you make it,
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you're going to end up fifties or you
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get up getting cut.
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Are you going to end up somewhere at
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the bottom?
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Because you're going to be scared to see
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what happens.
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Shana, our local MD,
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compartment syndrome can also cause it.
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So maybe Dallin's leg swelled too much.
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No idea what that is,
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but I believe you.
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She's more of an expert than we are.
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Oh, gotcha.
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Gotcha.
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So I wanted to ask you about,
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we'll finish the Dallin thing and move on.
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Yeah.
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Yesterday we talked about,
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do you need a chip on your shoulder
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to be a good athlete?
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And you have very clearly stated you have
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a chip, whether you want it or not,
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it's there and you keep receipts.
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I got a whole folder on my phone
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named receipts that I got.
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screenshots taken from various places,
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various things,
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various results and whatnot that I just
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keep handy to remind myself.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Well, after that conversation, Vicky,
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who is always in our chat,
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she does a podcast called Be Limitless.
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And she sent me some content she created
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yesterday.
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And it talked about
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that positive talk is kind of a false
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narrative and if i'm saying any of this
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wrong hopefully she'll correct me um that
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really the opposite of positive is not
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negative but it's neutral and really we
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need to get more into that neutral mindset
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not necessarily like beating ourselves up
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but looking at things logically without
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emotion and um
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And chips are emotion, right?
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Like,
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we are looking at it as this person
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wrong me and I want to pay them
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back and I'm going to pay them back
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by working harder than them and doing
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everything I can to show them.
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I can't accomplish this task.
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And I think, like, in the, the,
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one thing I would argue is in the
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right setting that can be, um.
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That can be very motivating and can work
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to an advantage.
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But I think the problem is when you
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swing emotionally,
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you swing to the negative and then you're
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thinking thoughts and you're beating
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yourself up and you're doing it to a
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place where it's not productive anymore.
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And I think she kind of said that
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way more eloquently than I did.
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But she kind of talked about that.
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a lot and then that really you want
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to kind of get into that neutral attitude
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where you're just you're looking at things
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logically as opposed to emotionally so as
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someone with a chip what are your thoughts
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on that uh i think that in a
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perfect world she's one hundred percent
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right in a perfect world yes absolutely i
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would love to be able to just and
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sometimes i can
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but it's not often.
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So I also will say that in addition
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to my folder of my receipts, right,
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where people have told me stuff and I'm
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like,
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I just kind of shake my head at
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it, you know, like, oh,
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and if we both make it into this
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division,
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we're gonna get our asses kicked.
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No, you might get your ass kicked.
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I'm not.
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Because I know what kind of work I've
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been doing.
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I know what kind of, you know,
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what kind of sacrifices I've been putting
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in.
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I know what I'm capable of at this
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point.
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Didn't used to be like that.
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Did not used to be like that.
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My first individual competition,
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individual master's competition,
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pretty big local comp around here.
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I had a minor nervous breakdown after the
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first event because I thought I didn't
20:02
belong there.
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I've told you that story for damn sure.
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And it took a whole lot of work
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for me to accept the fact that the
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work I've been doing is actually working.
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Does that make sense?
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Like the stuff,
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the work I've been putting in,
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it's getting me where I want to go
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and that I actually do belong in the
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places that I'm going to now.
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But I still have those voices and those
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statements and those whatever you want to
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call them that are in my brain and
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in my heart in some places and that
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are stacked up on my shoulder that are
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saying, you can't do this.
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You don't belong here.
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We don't want you here.
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Oh, my God.
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Why is that guy here?
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Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
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Some of them are real.
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some of them are not i'm well aware
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of that some of those are absolutely one
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hundred percent made up by my by myself
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you know you're having your own narrative
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about what you know there's two people
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over there talking and one of them over
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there look in your general direction
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clearly they must be talking about you so
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like that kind of just plays on my
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head in my head on repeat
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What I have learned to do and what
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I am still learning to do,
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what I'm still getting better at is taking
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that and using it.
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Does that make sense?
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Instead of just having these chips and
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having all this shit that I'm just
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carrying around with me,
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now I can take it off and use
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it as fuel and burn it and put
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it into effect where
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yeah it's there but instead of dragging me
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down i'm going to use it to light
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a fire to my ass with it so
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vicky who is was the inspiration for this
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discussion was uh says but there's no
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guarantee that the work we put in is
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going to always play out on the floor
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not
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nor can we control what others have done
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or doing.
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That is where shifting to neutral plays
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out.
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Yeah, a hundred percent.
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So I think what Vicki's saying is that,
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or what I'm getting from what she's saying
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is something I've been also doing a whole
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lot of is that,
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or trying to have a whole lot of
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is not necessarily have the expectations
22:44
when I step onto the floor.
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Right?
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Finally, if I'm in training,
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that's one thing.
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Like,
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I want to get a result from training.
22:52
Like, I want to do, you know,
22:55
I'm doing a max set of unbroken ring
22:56
muscles.
22:57
Well, I'm aiming for this number.
22:58
Well, I didn't get to this number.
23:00
Okay,
23:00
I can go back and kind of adjust
23:01
that.
23:02
Step on the competition floor,
23:04
you got one shot.
23:06
One shot, you know,
23:09
and I've said this a million times,
23:10
line us up, see what happens.
23:12
Send us out there.
23:13
Let's go.
23:15
At that point,
23:17
I just have to trust that what I've
23:18
done has been enough and it doesn't
23:21
necessarily matter.
23:23
And it does matter,
23:24
but it doesn't necessarily matter if I
23:25
beat everybody else.
23:26
So long as that,
23:27
I know that when I give is good
23:30
enough for me,
23:31
knowing that I left everything out there
23:34
every single time.
23:37
So, so let me, so here's their followup.
23:41
Yep.
23:42
And what happens when you don't have it
23:44
there to use?
23:46
Did you ever seen the first Avengers
23:50
movie?
23:52
When the Hulk said,
23:53
when they asked the Hulk about or when
23:56
they were in for the Battle of New
23:58
York and he said,
23:59
you're going to have to get angry.
24:03
And he said,
24:03
that's my secret is that I'm always angry.
24:06
It doesn't go away.
24:10
It hasn't.
24:10
To this point, it has not gone away.
24:12
It will not go away.
24:14
It might quieten, quieten, quieten,
24:17
quieten, might get quieter,
24:21
but it does not go away.
24:23
It hasn't gone away.
24:24
No matter what,
24:25
I could win the next four competitions I'm
24:29
in and it still won't go away.
24:34
I could make the games this year
24:36
And it's not going to go away.
24:39
I could make, I could win, you know,
24:41
I could next year, you know,
24:44
when I turned fifty and I'm back with
24:49
Jesus Christ, we grow up.
24:52
It still won't go away.
24:55
Like it's going to be there no matter
24:59
what.
24:59
Who hurt you as a child, man?
25:02
I didn't have many friends.
25:06
I didn't have many friends.
25:07
That's a lot of what it is,
25:08
believe it or not.
25:09
It is a lot of stuff from when
25:12
I was growing up that was just me
25:15
and my mom for the very longest time
25:17
living in a rural community that was not
25:21
super prosperous.
25:23
And it was just me and her.
25:24
We were broke to begin with.
25:25
So I didn't have a whole lot of
25:26
friends.
25:28
I wasn't a kid that got picked first
25:30
for anything, right?
25:31
Unless there was only two of us and
25:33
one of us was in a wheelchair,
25:34
then yeah, I would get picked first.
25:37
So that's what a lot of it is.
25:39
And it's still there, right?
25:42
Shanna, CrossFit Games champ,
25:47
I go into an event wondering how well
25:49
I can do with curiosity more than
25:51
anything.
25:53
Shanna, I am getting better at that.
25:58
at having that mindset of the, well,
26:01
let's see what's going to happen, right?
26:04
I told you this, Scott,
26:05
especially whenever we were at MSC
26:07
together, is that no expectations.
26:10
Like, let's see what happens.
26:12
I'm going to run my race and see
26:14
what happens.
26:15
And when I'm loose like that,
26:17
I'm able to be loose like that,
26:19
at that point anyway,
26:20
I would perform a whole lot better.
26:23
What I did...
26:27
learned here recently.
26:29
Oh, yeah, going back.
26:30
So I got my folder for all my
26:36
receipts.
26:36
I also have a long list of every
26:38
competition that I go to is that when
26:41
I get done with it and one of
26:44
my who I would consider to be my
26:47
mindset coach made me start doing is write
26:50
down everything that went wrong and
26:52
everything that went right.
26:55
we go back and we look over okay
26:56
what was i good at what was i
26:57
not good at what was i good at
26:58
what was i not good at what can
27:00
i work on what doesn't necessarily need
27:02
work you know reinforcement whatever you
27:05
want to call it uh and that's also
27:09
helped a hell of a lot at me
27:12
being able to go in and then learn
27:15
things about myself i didn't know like i
27:18
learned that uh
27:22
And anybody who's met me for more than
27:23
ten minutes knows, like, I don't shut up.
27:27
Whether it's warming up, working out,
27:31
just standing around and talking, like,
27:32
it's very rare for me to be quiet
27:34
for more than five,
27:35
ten minutes at a time.
27:37
And what I learned at Monster Games over
27:39
the summer is that I'm able to be
27:43
able to kind of lock in,
27:45
focus in without putting too much pressure
27:47
on myself, which wasn't a thing before.
27:50
I did that for the last workout of
27:54
the day.
27:55
I figured out that I could do that.
27:57
And that was a big thing for me.
27:59
Because now I know how to do it.
28:01
Whereas before, if I was like that,
28:04
just kind of in my own head,
28:06
there'd be all kinds of crazy shit going
28:07
on.
28:09
Where now I was able to just focus
28:11
in.
28:11
This is what we're doing.
28:12
Okay, cool.
28:13
Come out.
28:13
Execute.
28:15
Outstanding.
28:15
Moving right along.
28:18
So for me, that was a big deal.
28:20
I wrote that down, underlined it,
28:22
circled it, highlighted it,
28:24
because that's something I'm going to be
28:25
able to use going forward.
28:28
Yeah, for me,
28:29
it's kind of the flip thing right now.
28:32
Like I was you ten years ago, right?
28:35
I had the chip on my shoulder.
28:37
I did everything out of anger.
28:39
And then when things were taken away from
28:41
me due to my back injury,
28:43
like then things got squirrely for me.
28:47
And I think that's what Vicki's pointing
28:49
to with what if it's not there anymore?
28:52
And I've been on that side where I
28:55
couldn't control that I still had that,
28:58
right?
29:00
And when that got taken away from me,
29:03
then it went to my confidence just
29:06
shriveled.
29:08
And so if you look at the thumbnail
29:10
for today,
29:11
I have you with the chip and me
29:15
with finding confidence, right?
29:17
Because I'm on the other side of that
29:19
where I can't even hold the chip because
29:23
I don't even know if I'm able to.
29:27
And so I'm fighting for confidence.
29:30
And I think that's where...
29:33
We have to look at the flip side
29:34
that if that is pulled away,
29:36
do you have the tools and resources
29:38
available to you to keep moving,
29:41
to keep grinding,
29:43
to keep getting after it when it's ripped
29:45
away from you?
29:48
I hope so.
29:50
I really do.
29:52
I like to think that I do just
29:54
for the, and this is God's grace,
29:58
the group that I have surrounded myself
30:00
with.
30:02
whether it be my wife and children and
30:05
my training partners and just the friends
30:07
that I have around here who all believe
30:09
in me.
30:11
And it is absolutely unreal.
30:13
And it doesn't matter what the results
30:15
are.
30:17
It doesn't matter that you pointed this
30:20
one into the stands or you did this
30:23
terribly and whatnot.
30:25
they are able to, you know, from Brandon,
30:29
from, uh, my, my, uh, my best friend,
30:33
uh, Bernard and whatnot,
30:35
kind of narrow it down for me and
30:36
be like, Hey, this part doesn't matter.
30:40
Right.
30:40
This is one piece of a really big
30:42
fucking puzzle that we're doing and it
30:44
does not matter.
30:45
So like I have been in mad immensely
30:49
blessed to be able to have that kind
30:51
of,
30:53
even when I get down on myself and
30:55
I'm not feeling confident,
30:56
because that's probably more often than it
30:59
isn't,
31:00
these people there to be able to like,
31:02
hey, bro, you're doing the right things.
31:05
This is going to happen.
31:06
It's not a linear path by any stretch
31:09
of the imagination.
31:10
It's not a straight line.
31:11
It's not a forty five degree angle.
31:13
It's going to go up.
31:13
It's going to go down.
31:14
It's going to go up.
31:15
It's going to go down.
31:16
It might go real down for a little
31:17
while, but you're going to go back up.
31:20
And they're not going to let me.
31:22
And I know that's external motivation,
31:25
external factors and whatnot,
31:26
but it's there.
31:29
Right.
31:29
So let me, let me,
31:31
let me give you a little story time.
31:33
I love it.
31:34
Because I want you to understand where I'm
31:36
at.
31:36
And Vicky makes a comment here.
31:38
I'm not going to pull it up because
31:40
it makes it hard for me to see.
31:41
But because the anger is unstable,
31:44
because it's based in emotion.
31:46
So redefining the baseline is all you can
31:48
do in the moment and lean more forward.
31:55
So I'm grinding.
31:56
I'm losing a ton of weight.
31:58
I'm getting fit.
31:59
I'm doing competitions.
32:00
I'm doing the whole thing.
32:02
All of a sudden they go to deadlift
32:03
one day, back.
32:06
Then all of a sudden it becomes sciatica.
32:08
Then it goes down my leg.
32:09
Then my leg goes numb.
32:11
And then I was a coach at the
32:13
same time.
32:15
That community was my support that you
32:17
talk about.
32:18
These people that surrounded me,
32:19
these people that loved on me.
32:22
I get approached by the owner to say,
32:24
hey, because of your back injury,
32:27
we think you need to take time to
32:28
yourself.
32:29
And we are asking you not to coach
32:32
anymore and blah, blah, blah, right?
32:36
Well, in my emotional state,
32:38
I took that as go away,
32:40
come back when you're better.
32:44
And so then I go away.
32:46
I don't have that support system anymore.
32:48
I don't have the people loving on me.
32:51
I don't have the positive piece of it.
32:53
And I was unaware of a neutral.
32:56
I was completely unaware of it because it
32:58
was either negative or positive.
33:01
And so I went into a downward spiral
33:06
that just kept going and going and going.
33:08
And if you're a community and you don't
33:10
catch that person starting the spiral at
33:14
step one or step two,
33:15
it's real hard to get them out.
33:19
So when that started going,
33:22
I had no neutral to lean back on.
33:27
And it made it really,
33:28
really hard for me in those times.
33:31
And someone who fought through all the
33:33
negativity and all the weight gain and all
33:35
that to kick that in the ass,
33:39
I lost every bit of confidence in what
33:41
I could do.
33:46
And so I hope that the communities in
33:52
the gyms and Kelly Clark and I talked
33:54
about this last night.
33:56
Like her vision is that if a person
33:59
walks out your door,
34:00
you need to catch them in the first
34:02
step to get them back in just to
34:04
hang out with you.
34:06
It doesn't even have to be to lift
34:07
a weight.
34:08
It doesn't have to be to get on
34:09
a bike.
34:10
Just come back and be here.
34:13
And that's what I want communities to
34:16
understand.
34:17
I want gym owners to understand.
34:19
Like it's that first step you've got to
34:21
get them.
34:23
Don't let them go and hope they're coming
34:25
back.
34:28
But my love was coaching.
34:29
My love was being an athlete.
34:31
And when all of that got ripped away
34:33
all at the same time,
34:35
it was just emotionally devastating.
34:39
It's a lot.
34:41
It's a lot,
34:42
especially if it's all of it at once.
34:44
Like we had one of our coaches at
34:46
the gym.
34:48
She couldn't work out for the longest
34:49
time, was battling knee stuff,
34:51
ankle stuff, whatever.
34:53
But she was able to still coach.
34:56
So she was still able to come in,
34:58
even if it was killing her not to
34:59
be able to do stuff.
35:01
But she could still come in, coach,
35:04
be a part of the community,
35:05
see what people are doing, interact,
35:07
like the whole thing.
35:09
And she slowly made her way back.
35:12
Right.
35:14
Um, so yeah, dude, I,
35:16
I hate that for you.
35:17
I absolutely hate that for you because I
35:19
know firsthand what it's like to,
35:24
to be able to find something right.
35:27
That's holy shit.
35:28
These are my people.
35:28
These are, this is my tribe.
35:30
These are, these are my things.
35:31
And then I can't imagine because it has
35:34
not happened to me at that point,
35:36
but having it all pulled away like that
35:39
and well-meaning,
35:41
Because I don't feel like,
35:43
from what you're saying anyway,
35:44
it doesn't feel like they were like, oh,
35:46
you're hurt.
35:46
Get the fuck out of here.
35:47
We don't want you in here anymore.
35:49
It feels more like they were just like,
35:50
hey,
35:51
maybe you should take it easy for a
35:52
little while and then come back when
35:53
you're ready.
35:54
But in your head, it was just like,
35:58
you can't do anything.
35:59
Don't come over here.
36:01
To this day,
36:01
I can't tell you what it was.
36:03
Because at the time,
36:04
I was not able to look at it
36:07
without emotion.
36:08
And to this day, I couldn't.
36:11
I mean,
36:11
you're talking about a guy that lost two
36:14
hundred fifty pounds.
36:15
I was my picture was on everything to
36:18
promote that gym.
36:20
My picture was on the website.
36:21
My picture was in the hallway.
36:23
You lost a linebacker.
36:26
What's that?
36:27
You lost a linebacker.
36:29
I did.
36:30
I mean, not just a regular person.
36:33
And so when it happened,
36:36
my thoughts went to, okay,
36:38
now that I'm struggling and I'm not your
36:41
poster child anymore,
36:44
you just want me to go away so
36:46
people can't see me gain the weight back.
36:49
And then it just started to go.
36:54
And it went hard and it went fast.
36:57
And it took weeks for friends to reach
37:01
out.
37:02
they didn't know what to say right like
37:05
it just was it was really really bad
37:09
and and so that's why that's why i
37:12
wanted to have this discussion with you
37:13
because i know what that chip does for
37:15
you and when you're in it and you
37:18
see all the good it does you don't
37:20
ever think about do i do i have
37:23
the tools available to available to me
37:26
when
37:30
if that is taken away in any stretch
37:32
or any means?
37:35
I've had thoughts about it.
37:37
What do I do if I can't?
37:41
For whatever reason.
37:43
What do I do if I can't?
37:46
Because it's an identity thing at that
37:47
point.
37:47
Right now, I think of myself as husband,
37:51
father, or husband, dad, really,
37:55
and athlete, in that order.
37:57
Right.
37:58
I am my I am married to Jennifer.
38:00
I am.
38:02
I got three bad ass kids and I
38:05
am a CrossFit athlete who is trying to
38:08
be the best,
38:09
best possible human I can be.
38:11
And if not,
38:12
if one of those things get taken away,
38:14
I'm always going to be a husband and
38:17
a dad.
38:18
But like if for whatever reason,
38:19
if I break my leg in seventeen places,
38:22
what am I going to do then?
38:25
Right.
38:25
Cause I wasn't, I didn't lose two fifty,
38:28
but I lost quite a bit of weight
38:31
at one point in my life.
38:32
And I was fat and fucking miserable when
38:35
I was fat.
38:35
I was miserable and I wasn't just
38:37
miserable to me.
38:37
I was miserable to everybody around me.
38:39
And I'm aware of that now.
38:41
So Frida, Frida, you're probably correct.
38:45
It's almost sounds like they spoke without
38:48
knowing or being able to say,
38:50
find the right words.
38:51
I think that's it.
38:52
Exactly.
38:55
But in my head,
38:57
I couldn't discern that in that moment
39:00
because I was all emotion.
39:04
Yeah,
39:04
you couldn't split the two things up.
39:08
Yeah.
39:12
This is really hard to do on my
39:14
phone, I'm telling you.
39:18
KDL, geez,
39:19
I've been going through a lot of this
39:21
stuff lately, too, in different ways.
39:24
Going to have to rewatch this one.
39:28
Yeah,
39:28
this isn't really where I thought we were
39:30
going in this, totally.
39:32
But they've pretty much taken up the whole
39:33
show.
39:34
And I think...
39:36
think it's good for me i'll just be
39:37
honest it's very therapeutic that we're
39:39
talking about this good i'm glad um and
39:43
vicky has helped with you know sending
39:45
words of encouragement um howie has sent
39:48
words of encouragement like because i
39:51
wrestled with when i was doing the weight
39:53
loss show and it was so public i
39:56
really had a hard time with that too
39:58
and um and i've been trying to get
40:01
over that for the last two years
40:05
And so trying to work through all this
40:07
stuff is really, really hard.
40:13
So I'm glad we're having this conversation
40:15
anyway.
40:16
But what we have learned,
40:19
or at least what I feel like we
40:20
have learned anyway,
40:21
is that anything that's worth doing is
40:24
probably going to be pretty difficult to
40:25
do, right?
40:29
And so if you're getting something out of
40:32
it, if it's making you...
40:34
you know,
40:35
if it's cathartic in any kind of way,
40:38
even though this is not the easiest
40:39
conversation we've had by far,
40:41
generally speaking,
40:42
it's more like maybe they should hire
40:43
Billy Napier twice as opposed to let's
40:46
talk about some real, real type shit.
40:48
Then I think it's worth doing.
40:53
Yeah.
40:54
Yeah.
40:54
I think in one, on one hand,
40:56
it's really easy to say, just show up,
40:59
like literally just show up for yourself
41:01
every single day.
41:02
And that's the neutral way of thinking,
41:04
right?
41:06
Just show up.
41:07
And whatever you can get in that day,
41:09
you've gotten in.
41:12
And that's step one.
41:14
On the other side, you're like,
41:15
I've got this mountain to climb.
41:18
And that's the emotional way of looking at
41:20
it.
41:21
And then it looks so daunting.
41:23
It's so hard.
41:25
Like,
41:25
how do we break this up into workable
41:29
pieces, right?
41:33
So when I signed up for my first
41:36
ever Masters competition,
41:38
and I did not understand at the time,
41:39
but the guy who was in my gym,
41:40
Cecil Piazza, said,
41:43
so you're taking a bite out of the
41:44
elephant, huh?
41:46
And I had no idea what the fuck
41:48
he was talking about.
41:51
Whatsoever.
41:52
And I was just like, yeah,
41:54
there you go.
41:56
It took me quite some time before I
41:58
finally ended up looking it up.
41:59
And I was like,
42:00
how do you eat an elephant?
42:01
One bite at a time.
42:02
Right.
42:03
So that's what, you know,
42:04
you saying that just show up,
42:06
which is what we tell people as a
42:08
coach.
42:08
What I tell people at the gym,
42:11
especially new people that just signed up,
42:13
is that, you know, oh, man,
42:15
this is hard.
42:17
Yeah, it is.
42:18
It's going to be hard.
42:20
You're going to get better.
42:22
All I need you to do is come
42:24
back tomorrow.
42:26
That's it.
42:26
So I think I'm asking you to come
42:27
back tomorrow.
42:29
Be present while you're here.
42:33
So this is for Jay Birch,
42:35
and then we're going to shut off because
42:37
the Florida Fitness Podcast is going live
42:39
in about two minutes.
42:41
I don't want anybody to miss that.
42:43
But this is for Jay Birch.
42:44
My why?
42:46
To live my older life better than my
42:51
younger life.
42:52
And that means to get around,
42:55
to do what I want to do,
42:56
to go hiking,
42:58
to do all of those things that I
43:00
want to do with my daughter,
43:01
with my wife,
43:02
and do it without worrying about,
43:05
can I do it?
43:07
And that is my why.
43:10
He keeps asking me that.
43:11
That is my why.
43:13
Tune in tomorrow.
43:15
And we'll talk about it probably some more
43:16
because this probably has opened up a
43:18
floodgate of things.
43:20
Maybe I'll bring Corey back and we'll have
43:22
this go a little bit further.
43:26
And hopefully I'll have internet tomorrow
43:29
to make this a whole lot easier.
43:32
But with that...
43:33
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43:37
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43:39
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43:45
talk about the season.
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So with that,
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we'll be back tomorrow with more.
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Hopefully you enjoyed this and taking a
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peek into our therapy session.
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And with that.
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Have an awesome day, guys.
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I don't know how to get to my
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media assets to do the ending thing.
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So I am going to try to find
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out how to stop recording.
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And we're going to do that.
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I have no idea, dude.
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I have no idea.
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I don't think I can do it.
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Yeah, you can't.
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Nope.
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uh yeah i'm gonna hit end yeah we're
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gonna try that you guys tomorrow bye