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Almost Famous In Depth: Peter Weber · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is Ben and Ashley I almost famous in depth. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: we've had a busy self isolation time. Actually, it is
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  Speaker 1: a joy in my life, uh to be able to
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  Speaker 1: take time out of my day to talk to you
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  Speaker 1: about everything. Good, Ashley, how you doing? I am good?
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  Speaker 1: How are you? Ben? I'm great? Hey, listeners before actually
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  Speaker 1: I get started on today's episode, which is a very uh,
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  Speaker 1: a very special one like they all are. But we
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  Speaker 1: have a guest who we've talked about often, who we've
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  Speaker 1: both gotten to know, and who most of us out
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  Speaker 1: there who have gotten to know over the last few months.
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  Speaker 1: But before we introduced them, actually and I came up
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  Speaker 1: with a new goal for ourselves, and we'd like to
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  Speaker 1: invite you all to follow along. We are going to
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  Speaker 1: try to walk ten thousand steps per day for the
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  Speaker 1: rest of self isolation. Ashley, do you think you can
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  Speaker 1: do it? I definitely can. It's manageable when you think
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  Speaker 1: about it. It's like maybe two miles. So two miles.
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  Speaker 1: Just I know that a lot of people probably don't
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  Speaker 1: live in neighborhood where they can walk around that long.
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  Speaker 1: You think that that's gonna be an issue with people?
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  Speaker 1: Because I think we're coming from people who Um, we're
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  Speaker 1: people who have neighborhoods that are very small. Yeah, department stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the thing though, like I don't know Ashley with
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  Speaker 1: during a time of self isolation, if there's any excuse,
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  Speaker 1: like you can walk around your couch for okay, you're
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  Speaker 1: probably right. Yeah, go from one room to the other room,
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  Speaker 1: run room to the other room. Yeah, we have to move,
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  Speaker 1: we gotta move. Well, Ashley, let's not delay any further. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: You and I have wanted to do this for a while.
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  Speaker 1: If you basically just tried to build suspense by saying
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  Speaker 1: walk around before we introduce our gigantic guest, I agreed. Yeah. See. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Hey listeners, fans and Almost Famous podcast huge fans of
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  Speaker 1: the in depth episode, Welcome to this in depth episode
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  Speaker 1: with Peter Webber. Peter, how you doing? I'm doing gig
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  Speaker 1: is Yeah, it's good to be here. Thank you for
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  Speaker 1: having me. I'm gonna try to take on that ten
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  Speaker 1: thousand uh step challenge. Might be a little difficult here,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm trying the best the uh. If you guys
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  Speaker 1: don't know Peter, well, one, I don't know why you're
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  Speaker 1: listening to this podcast too. He's uh from Westlake Village, California,
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  Speaker 1: known for being on Hannah Brown season of The Bachelor.
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  Speaker 1: At Uh is also known as our most recent Bachelor.
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  Speaker 1: He's a pilot for Delta Airlines. Peter, I want to
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  Speaker 1: start this. Uh. We've talked a lot, actually and I have,
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  Speaker 1: about how we wanted to start this podcast today. UM,
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  Speaker 1: and we believe uh, we've we have this kind of
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  Speaker 1: saying that goes on during the in depth episodes, which
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  Speaker 1: are meant to just get anybody's story out there is UH.
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  Speaker 1: Truth is truth and truth wins. So UM. Ultimately, even
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  Speaker 1: if somebody doesn't like your truth, it is your truth
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  Speaker 1: and for that they need to respect it at some level.
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  Speaker 1: And so today I want to start just with you saying, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you're here because your truth needs to be said. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Some might still not like it, that's okay, UM, but
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  Speaker 1: at least the truth can get out there. You've been
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  Speaker 1: in the headlines uh for a while now after your
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  Speaker 1: time on the Bachelor. Your time on the Bachelor, and
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  Speaker 1: you and I got to talk about it quite a bit.
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  Speaker 1: At least in my opinion, UM wasn't ideal at times.
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  Speaker 1: At some moments it was I'm saying, we'll talk about that,
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  Speaker 1: but it was heavy at times as well. And so
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  Speaker 1: now's just let's sit down and talk about it. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And so let's start with this, Uh, Peter, we just
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  Speaker 1: introde you in your background of who where you're from,
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  Speaker 1: kind of like what you like to do. UM, I
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  Speaker 1: want to start by asking you, first off, how are
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  Speaker 1: you doing if we took all of this and just
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  Speaker 1: uh put it in into one microcosm of your life
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  Speaker 1: the show, your life after the show, how are you
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  Speaker 1: doing personally? Yeah, I am doing Uh, I'm doing good, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I really am. It's obviously been quite the whirlwind for
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  Speaker 1: me quite the last year. Um. Just kind of looking
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  Speaker 1: back on everything, it's it's been kind of like funny
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  Speaker 1: for me to think like I've you know, kind of
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  Speaker 1: been in this world like pretty hardcore since uh you know,
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  Speaker 1: the whole dating world through the Bachelorette, Bachelor, you know,
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  Speaker 1: for over a year now. So Um, obviously it ended
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. Um, things are still going
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  Speaker 1: on though, I know people are still talking and um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, honestly though, like I I feel like I
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  Speaker 1: definitely you kind of have to. There's like no choice.
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  Speaker 1: I've gotten really really tough skin throughout all this, especially
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  Speaker 1: at the end, and um, you know, I'm just I'm
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  Speaker 1: every day, I I still I wake up extremely grateful
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  Speaker 1: for the opportunity I had to you know, be on
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  Speaker 1: the bachelorte and then be the Bachelor and look for
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know, hopefully the girl of my dreams. Um,
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  Speaker 1: And uh, I don't regret it. Um, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: have had a lot of time to reflect, for sure
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  Speaker 1: on everything that you know has transpired, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: good decisions I made, the poor decisions I made, um,
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  Speaker 1: and try to just you know, grow from that become
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  Speaker 1: a better person moving forward. But uh, yeah, I really am,
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  Speaker 1: Like I can honestly say, I'm doing as good as
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  Speaker 1: you can be doing right now and this throughout this pandemic.
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  Speaker 1: It's obviously kind of crazy, just a weird time we're
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  Speaker 1: living in, But I really am doing good. From a
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  Speaker 1: fan's perspective. Your family got more involved in this season
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  Speaker 1: than any other family. How's your family doing? Yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: really did. Um, They're they're doing good as well. Obviously
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  Speaker 1: that a far was a tough, you know, tough episode
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  Speaker 1: for everyone. Um. Obviously there's been you know a lot
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  Speaker 1: of opinions, you know, good opinions, bad opinions about all that.
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  Speaker 1: But my family is very strong. We've always been very
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  Speaker 1: very supportive of each other, each other's rock, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we have each other's back always. Um. I
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  Speaker 1: love them more than anything, and I know they love
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  Speaker 1: me more than anything as well. Gonna be honest, when
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  Speaker 1: we've got into the quarantine situation, I was like, could
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  Speaker 1: you imagine being in the Webber house right now? No,
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  Speaker 1: to be completely fair that, like, I know, people thought
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  Speaker 1: there was like all this like all this tension and whatnot. Um,
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  Speaker 1: there really wasn't. My my family Listen, we we I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if it comes from kind of like uh,
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  Speaker 1: just kind of being raised in a Cuban culture like
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  Speaker 1: household or whatnot. We we can be very emotional and
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  Speaker 1: just very passionate about, you know stuff, And obviously we're
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  Speaker 1: not going to agree on on everything. No family does,
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  Speaker 1: but we One of the things I love about my
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  Speaker 1: family is that we just we don't like hold grudges
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  Speaker 1: or anything or let stuff get to us for too long. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: You know that love that we share always pulls us
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  Speaker 1: through literally anything that we're going through. Um. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: I was been good. I was making some some dance
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  Speaker 1: videos with my mom before before I left the house
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  Speaker 1: there and everything and it's all good. Peter. You and
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  Speaker 1: I were able to speak if we flash back months
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  Speaker 1: right before this whole thing started for you, um, and
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  Speaker 1: and I made you one promise. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you remember this, but I just was like, Hey, if
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  Speaker 1: I was in Peter's shoes, what would I want to hear?
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  Speaker 1: And one is you know, I said, hey, if I
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  Speaker 1: can do what, you can do it, which is very true,
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna be able to do it. Now how well
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  Speaker 1: we do it is up to us as people. But
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  Speaker 1: the second was that at the end of all of this,
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  Speaker 1: it's all going to work out for the good. Like
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  Speaker 1: even if it's hard, and even if it looks ugly,
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  Speaker 1: and even if it feels heavy and it feels like
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  Speaker 1: I've done everything wrong in the process, which you and
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  Speaker 1: I have both felt at times during this I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: is it all ends up working out for the good.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, my life now, UH is a great representation
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  Speaker 1: of that. Right. I learned a lot from my experience
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  Speaker 1: as a bachelor that a lot of pain was caused. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And now I'm able to celebrate with my fiance and
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  Speaker 1: enjoy a great life. It took a while, thanks buddy. Um,
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  Speaker 1: now that I've made that promise to you, has it
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  Speaker 1: held true? Uh? And again We're going to get into
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  Speaker 1: the details later on, but I just want to start
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  Speaker 1: this podcast by kind of getting a tone of where
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  Speaker 1: you're at, what you're feeling, so our listeners can ride
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  Speaker 1: along this journey with you. Has that held true? Has
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  Speaker 1: it all worked out for the good? I I truly
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  Speaker 1: do believe so yeah, um, yeah, you you called that,
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  Speaker 1: and I truly feel like that is an accurate representation
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  Speaker 1: of my whole experience. Um, obviously there was a crazy
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  Speaker 1: up in nouns and um. You know, I've always been
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  Speaker 1: a firm believer that you know, things happen for a reason,
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes you truly don't understand why things are happening. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but in the end, it's gonna work out for the better. Um.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe a couple of weeks ago, you know, I'm like, dang,
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  Speaker 1: where is this going? You know, how is this even
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  Speaker 1: at the very end? Like I don't even I didn't
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  Speaker 1: even know how its gonna end. You know, after a
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  Speaker 1: f r um, you know, for a couple of days
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  Speaker 1: there there was a lot of just kind of confusion still,
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  Speaker 1: but um, through all of that, I do feel very
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  Speaker 1: good about where I'm at right now. Um, even through
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  Speaker 1: all the mistakes. I really, I really do mean that,
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  Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I'm just I'm still hopeful, I'm
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  Speaker 1: still excited. I'm excited looking forward to the future, um,
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  Speaker 1: for what's to come, and uh, yeah, I think you're
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  Speaker 1: us a spot on. You know, a lot a lot
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  Speaker 1: has happened and a lot seems to be happening. I
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  Speaker 1: was talking to Ashley earlier, I was like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's very few people that have been in the public
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  Speaker 1: eye like you have, that have had so many headlines,
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  Speaker 1: so many different headlines written about them as such a
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  Speaker 1: small piece and time, like in such a quick amount
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  Speaker 1: of time, Like I feel like every day there is
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  Speaker 1: a and part of that just becomes a territory. Like
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  Speaker 1: you're popular. People have celebrated with you, they've mourned with you,
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  Speaker 1: they've criticized you, Like this just comes with being the bachelor.
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  Speaker 1: That's just part of it. Um. And with the media
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  Speaker 1: the way it is today, it's it's flooding information about
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  Speaker 1: Peter Webburn, what he's doing, and who he's dating and
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  Speaker 1: where he's been and all this stuff, just a lot
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  Speaker 1: has happened, UM with you, right is it? Is it
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  Speaker 1: at all? I mean you're not a professional entertainer, like
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  Speaker 1: none of us are. How are you dealing with this
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  Speaker 1: like this? You said you've developed tough, like tough skin.
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  Speaker 1: That's great. I'm glad to hear that, buddy, Like I
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  Speaker 1: I'm so happy you say that, But like that's not
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  Speaker 1: the full truth here, and we I want to hear
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  Speaker 1: your full truth. Like, you don't just develop tough skin
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  Speaker 1: because you get criticized enough. You have to do things
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  Speaker 1: in the process of getting into the place where you
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  Speaker 1: can handle it. And there's a lot of pain involved
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  Speaker 1: in getting to that place in that time. Like what
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  Speaker 1: has that been like for you? I mean, yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: hasn't It hasn't been easy obviously. Um, there's there's absolutely
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  Speaker 1: no way to prepare for this kind of attention to
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  Speaker 1: be brought upon you. Um, there's just no way. Um.
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  Speaker 1: Just like I felt, like, you know, even going through
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  Speaker 1: the experience of being the Bachelor, as much as we
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  Speaker 1: talked and all the advice that I asked, you know,
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  Speaker 1: from you and that you gave me, Um, and I
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  Speaker 1: took the heart. It's it's still there was no way
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  Speaker 1: to completely prepare for being a bachelor. UM So with
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  Speaker 1: all this attention just kind of being cast on me
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  Speaker 1: now and just everyone just you know, every little thing
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  Speaker 1: I do is analyzed. That part has been has been tough,
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  Speaker 1: and it's like it in the beginning, and it's like
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  Speaker 1: it just it almost kind of consumes you. Because for me,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, literally everything I do I think about, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: what's people's reaction going to be to this? And is
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  Speaker 1: this going to be criticized or is this going to
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  Speaker 1: be accepted? And that part kind of sucks and I
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  Speaker 1: have not necessarily enjoyed that. And at some point you
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  Speaker 1: just have to literally as simple as just not read
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  Speaker 1: the comments. I know. I remember Becca, she she gave me,
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  Speaker 1: uh when when this all when into my first podcast
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  Speaker 1: with her, Um, she gave this like a little lanyard
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  Speaker 1: and it just said, don't read the comments, and like
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  Speaker 1: that's probably like the best advice you know, I could
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  Speaker 1: have gone as well. And it's you know, when when
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  Speaker 1: you when I realized that, um, all that stuff, in
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  Speaker 1: my opinion, it's fake and it's not real because not
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  Speaker 1: once not and I can I can honestly say it's
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  Speaker 1: not once in real life through all my flights just
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  Speaker 1: being out in public, anyone I've met out on the street,
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  Speaker 1: have I ever heard one negative comment ever? But you
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  Speaker 1: can see on social media or on the internet or
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  Speaker 1: all this this stuff that's fake. It's not real life,
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  Speaker 1: you know, social media, it's not that's not your real life,
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  Speaker 1: and people just get so consumed in it. That's where
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  Speaker 1: all that negativity and that trash is. But the real
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  Speaker 1: life it's all great. And like when I finally realized that,
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  Speaker 1: it was a huge way to slift it off my
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  Speaker 1: shoulders and it allowed me to be so much happier.
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  Speaker 1: Continue to build that tough skin and just realize, like
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  Speaker 1: what actually matters and the human interactions that I have
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  Speaker 1: on the daily basis, those are great and amazing, and
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate those so much. I'm not gonna let the
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  Speaker 1: little stuff get to me at all. The I have
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  Speaker 1: one final thing and then just let you know, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna dive into some of the details of your experience
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  Speaker 1: and your season and kind of the ways that led
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  Speaker 1: you to the end. And then I want to close
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  Speaker 1: this podcast with getting back to kind of you personally,
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  Speaker 1: where you're at and how you're doing you kind of
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  Speaker 1: close all that up, um, but before I throw it
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  Speaker 1: over to Ashley to kind of dig into your seasoning
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  Speaker 1: your experience. Um, there has been though I remember sitting
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  Speaker 1: in your shoes, um during my time, and you know
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  Speaker 1: you and I can relate in some ways from our experience,
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  Speaker 1: right that it wasn't always pretty. There was confusion, the
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  Speaker 1: little chaos. Um. We get all you know, we're on it,
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  Speaker 1: and we think, oh, this has worked out for how
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  Speaker 1: it was supposed to work out for me, and it
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  Speaker 1: feels like they're every loosen has been taught, you know, tied,
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  Speaker 1: and everything's clean. And then you get off of and
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  Speaker 1: you realize that like maybe the public doesn't agree fully,
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  Speaker 1: and that like there's some heat now. Um. Luckily, back
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  Speaker 1: in my day social media wasn't as prevalent, and so
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  Speaker 1: now your whole story of what you've done since the
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  Speaker 1: show is being displayed. But would I be mistaken to
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  Speaker 1: say there still, even though you feel you're like you're
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  Speaker 1: doing well, even though you feel like there's been praise
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  Speaker 1: to your face, which I'm sure there is, Uh that
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  Speaker 1: there is, there's a little anxiety in your life, like
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  Speaker 1: a little pain. Um. If our listeners could like really
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  Speaker 1: get and understand exactly where you're at, Like where why
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  Speaker 1: you have a little fear? Uh? Can you explain that
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  Speaker 1: to them before we start step forward, just so they
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  Speaker 1: know where Peter Webber is at and why you're feeling
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  Speaker 1: the way you are. Yeah, no, listen, I mean what
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  Speaker 1: I do said. Obviously it's true, and it's been great
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  Speaker 1: in per us in having so much positivity. Um, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I can hunt and resent admit that I've definitely had
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  Speaker 1: a ton of anxiety and a ton of stress. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: just again just being thrust into kind of the spotlight
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  Speaker 1: so much and having everybody just analyze every move and
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  Speaker 1: then having so much so many critics as well, Like
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  Speaker 1: I'm just a freaking I'm a human being and I,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, I'm not an entertainer. I I'm not
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  Speaker 1: a professional dater. I'm a pilot that you know, signed
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  Speaker 1: up for this show hoping it would work. I was
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  Speaker 1: lucky enough to be blessed with the opportunity to go
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  Speaker 1: on and be the Bachelor too, and um, it's that
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  Speaker 1: part has been tough and like it's just it's I
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  Speaker 1: don't know for for me personally, I've never been someone
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  Speaker 1: that's been able to I've never like use my time
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  Speaker 1: to like talk negatively about anyone or go cast you know,
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  Speaker 1: negative judgment on that person or whatever it may be.
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  Speaker 1: But I know some people do do a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people do do that. And yeah, that that's the hurts
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  Speaker 1: it does. It's it takes a little bit to get
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  Speaker 1: used to a lot of it to get used to do.
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  Speaker 1: And um has definitely caused some anxiety. But uh again,
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  Speaker 1: I just do my absolute best. Um. I my number
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  Speaker 1: one thing is just all about gratitude. Gratitude, gratitude, and
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  Speaker 1: if I can focus on that more than anything else,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull myself through, you know, the tough times.
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  Speaker 1: I want to bring you back as the Peter you
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  Speaker 1: are today. Two big turning points on the show. So
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  Speaker 1: what would you tell the Peter on Night one? Now?
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's good, Um, let's see. I mean night won.
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  Speaker 1: My won was great, I speakably honest. I I don't
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  Speaker 1: think I would I would change anything from Night one
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  Speaker 1: of how it went. Um, you know, probably just to
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  Speaker 1: calm down a little bit and not be so for
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  Speaker 1: because I was so nervous going to that first night,
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  Speaker 1: but just knowing that, you know, all the women were
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  Speaker 1: just as nervous as you, um, just too. I don't know, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing really I would change from that first night
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  Speaker 1: just to get excited for this journey. There's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things I would say later on in the season,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: but the first night I wouldn't have much advice. At
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: what point do you start giving yourself advice? I would
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: have given myself advice, um, starting with like the pool
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: party stuff, like I forgot what episode that was, but um,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: in regards to just kind of really being influenced by uh,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: you know, the house in general and just UM, I
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: think for me, I went into it just because of
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: the person I am, you know, just being someone that yeah,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: I I like to get people the benefit of the
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: doubt and I have those tendencies of being a people pleaser. Um,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: to not worry so much about that and just really
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: really do what I needed to do for myself. And
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: like the pool party and like the Alais stuff, and
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: you know, I remember that was like the first like
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: part of the journey from me. I was like, I
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: got it. I don't know if I handled that the
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: right way, Like I should have just focused on myself,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: been a little bit more selfish and not not taking
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: so many opinions in and done what I needed to do.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I have one and I'm gonna be so mad at
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: myself if I don't ask this Peter, because um, it
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: was like my we you know, obviously you watched these seasons.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: We critique everything as part of the podcast, and I say,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: why did Peter do that? Or what what was he thinking?
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: One of my biggest critiques of you was I have
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: never seen and and this just me selfishly, I just
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: have to ask you as a fan of you. Uh,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: and then it's gonna go back to Ashley to actually
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: get to the heart of things. This is really derailing us.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: How in the world did you How in the world
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: did you kiss girls in front of other girls? I
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: like that was when you say pool party. I'm thinking
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: about a scene where like you were kissing a girl
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: and you knew other people could see it. Like that
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: was when I was like, oh, Peter, like just get bad. Um, yeah,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: it's a good question. I Um, I don't. I don't, Okay,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I don't. I'll be honest. I don't know if like
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: in the going back to that pool party, I don't
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: know if I actually knew that people saw me being
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: affectionate with other women. UM, I was not, for sure,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: was not doing that on purpose. There was one time,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I think really the only time actually of the season
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: where I was like, oh that was really awkward and
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: uncomfortable was um was in the football day in in Cleveland. UM.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I was walking you know back with she andne I remember,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: and uh, we just have like we're just talking having
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: it was off camera stuff. The game was over, and
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I just was like, so just kind of like focused
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: just with with her, and like I knew that I
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: had like nine other eight other women, right, but I
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: just I was just focused with her and like we
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: were just being affection just like you and I rent
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: and gave her a kiss, like going into the locker room,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: but all the women were there. And then right after
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I did that, I'm like, why did I just do that?
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Like that was that was weird? That was uncomfortable, But UM,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess just to kind of explain
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: it for me, I was someone that tried my absolute
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: best to, like I just said, get lost with each
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: woman individually when I was with them, and whether that
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: was too much or disrespectful at times, I can see
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: the criticism. I can understand that, but that was me,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: and that's what I was gonna do for it to
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: hopefully work for me. I couldn't. I don't know how
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I was going to be able to just like sometimes
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: act like they were my my only girl, and then
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: sometimes no, no, I'm dating a bunch of women, Like
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I had to fully commit to each relationship when I
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: was with that person, and that's what I tried to
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: do from night one through the end. And it got weird.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I think that was pretty obvious and evident, which in
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: a way sounds like a great plan. Then you get
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: called the kissing bandon and it's just weird, and it's
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: just it's crazy. I don't know if I told you
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: guys like the I really because I really am the
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: guy that, like I usually and like kind of shy
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: with kissing and like I don't go for it right away.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I really I thought there was a chance I wasn't
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: going to kiss anyone the first night, to be completely honest,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: And then Savannah came and I loved it. I love
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: like just her going all out for it, did the
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: blindfold thing, planted the kiss, and that kind of like
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: broke the seal for me and I was just like, well, okay,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: there we go. But then didn't you eliminate her night
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: one Sanana? No? Oh no, okay, that's right, that's right.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: No, no no, no, she was the girl that would last
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: a long time, but we never really got to know her. Yeah,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: and I guess, yeah, she was really a sweet girl. Um,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I like Sanana a lot, but yeah, I really was planning.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: I kind of like doing nothing and then so much
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: for that. Hey, well thanks, Peter. I just had to
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: get that out there because it was like, my one
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: biggest confusion was like, what in the world is he
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: doing that feels dangerous? Are definitely did not advise him
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: to do that, But that makes sense. I can get
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: I can get behind you just trying to be and
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: you know, intentional with each relationship and try to make
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: it as normal as possible. So okay, Ashley, I'm sorry
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: that definitely took us on a tangent. I had to
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: get it out back to you. Okay. So now let's
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: put Peter today back to after that Top three Rows ceremony,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: when Maddie comes up to you and says, um, I
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: really don't want you sleeping with anyone else, Like I'm
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: not sure if this is gonna be okay with my
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: moral code if you do, and I'm going to have
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: to reevaluate everything if you do. In that moment, did
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: you think, oh is a squirrel virgin? Or did you
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: just think that she was kind of giving you a
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: request because she was that into you, Like, did the
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: thought of her rigidity come into play at all? Um? Okay?
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: So for that, I remember, Uh, I had thought there
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: was a chance that that Maddie was a virgin. I
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: remember it was where was I was driving him from
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: a location I think it was it wasn't Chili in Santiago,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: And I remember, yeah, I was talking about her with
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: my producers and I asked him like, do you guys
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: think this? And they couldn't give me anything, um, you know,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: because obviously they can't. But I kept asking. That was
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: the first time that was on my mind. And then
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: they never talked about it again really until it kind
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: of came up that night. Um. But honestly, no, I didn't.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't know. Maybe there was a chance, but I
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: truly didn't know until until she told me in Australia
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: at that dinner. Um. So I knew that she was
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: obviously very very strong in her faith, and that would
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: have made sense, But I did not know for sure.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I know I asked you this with Access Hollywood, But honestly, Peter,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: you're like a whole different Peter now than you were
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: like six or seven weeks ago. Would it have made
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: a difference. Would it have made a difference if Maddie
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: had at that moment said I want you to not
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: sleep with anyone because I am a virgin, And yeah,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: would that have changed your mind about sleeping with anyone else?
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Can you say that even for sure? Yeah, it would have.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I can say that for sure. I think definitely had
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: a little bit more gravity with everything. Um, yeah, it
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: would have had more gravity. So there's a chance that
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: you may not have slept with the other woman in
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: that case. Yeah, but but again that there would yeah
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: there there for sure would have been a stronger chance there.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: But again it kind of all goes back to, like
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: my biggest struggle was, like I explained, with the kissing stuff,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Like I when I was with each individual woman, I
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: tried my best to just be so intentional with them
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: and lost with them, and um, you know I would
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: have definitely struggled with that. Like if I'm holding back.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: You know, in any aspect of the relationship, am I
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: doing it a disservice? But you had to answer your
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: question that it would have made it a little different,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: and like, let's not forget you know, you know, however
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: it played out, agree or disagree with the decisions of
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: what you did. Um you are dating multiple people at
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: one time, like that is not normal. That is not
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: easy to do. There's no right way to do something
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: that is is very unnatural to you and not something
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think. I guess I don't know you before
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: the show, but it's not h something you had practiced
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: necessarily before this experience. It's extremely natural. So you're trying.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: You're going into this week knowing that one of these
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: people that you're you're falling for is saying this to you.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Also knowing that you're still trying to figure out if
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: she is the one, and knowing that some of the
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: other people that you're with don't have those feelings, that
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: don't have those um uh, don't feel as strongly about
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: physical intimacy and maybe winning or where it should be
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: had or and what capacity and so as as yes,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: we can be critical, right and and Madison was a
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: fan favorite. But you know, actually I just want to
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: add in that like at some point it does become
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: more confusing than what the general public can can necessarily understand,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: and and exactly and one more thing I'll add even
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I think on even more important than having known that
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: night that she brought that up to me if she
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: was a virgin, and I think the biggest thing for
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: me would have been just knowing exactly where she was
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: with me, because I should never express to me how
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: she truly felt, um compared to the other two women,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: And so that was I think the biggest thing for
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: me that just was was really confusing and how I
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: go about this. Okay, So if she had told you
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: she was a virgin, and if she would have said
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: at that moment, I love you, everything could have been different. Yeah,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: and not even necessarily I love you, just like knowing
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: where she was even just falling like where she truly
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: felt like she was with me got it. Um. So
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: then from there on you made it seem like you
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: were the storyline that we saw on TV, made it
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: seem as if you were just so torn you had
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: no idea where you're going to end up. But then
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: it was interesting because the way we saw a play
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: out on TV. As soon as Maddie had decided to leave,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: it seemed like she was your choice the entire time,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: and you weren't torn at all. Was what was going
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: through your head and heart different than what we saw
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: on TV? Um? Wait, so you're saying that when when
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Maddie left and then towards the end, like to the proposal,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: you're saying that it seemed like what like I it
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: seems like you had chosen Maddie in your head a
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: long time ago. Um, listen, I you're you're so right
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: when I when you say like it looked like I
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: was instanding confused, I say that all the time. That
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: was the most confusing week of my life. It was
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: so stressful. I had no idea it really had to
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: go about that. Um, I really was, you know, I
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: truly truly felt like I was in love with with
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: two women. And at that point, UM, I know you
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: can kind of attest that ben and like if that's possible,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: and and I really do feel like it is, and
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: and people that say it's not. Well, then I come
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: back to you guys with if do you think you
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: can fall in love with more than one? Person just
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: in your the matter of your lifetime at different times,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: and if you can, why can't it happen at the
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: same time. I get that's weird, but in this kind
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: of situation is what allows for that to be possible. Um,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: that's just my opinion. Yeah, it was tough, and UM
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: obviously I had a lot of love for Maddie, but
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I also had a lot of love for Hannah and
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: and I I think I think what you guys were
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: seeing more than anything was just I was heartbroken, and
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: but I truly feel like I also would have been
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: heartbroken if Hannah and would have just done the same
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: thing and just left. And having to deal with those
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: feelings of heartbreak for me almost like it just kind
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: of consumed me a little bit. And since I didn't
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: have any time to process it like a normal relationship
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: when it ends, and two days three days later, I
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: had to try to go in to get myself in
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: the right head space to possibly propose to someone. UM.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I think if there would have happened with either woman,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I would have I would have really struggled with it,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: and it probably would have seemed like I was missing
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: the other one a lot. That was did you ever
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: think to ask for extra time to process. Um No,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I remember I remember kind of like my last my
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: last opportunity I might might have had that we were
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: getting ready to film the the Neil Lane. Um you
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: know where he came the first time I met Neil
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: and he was gonna show me the rings, and um,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I just remember being just I was in rough, rough
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: headspace and I took some time to myself. They came
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: into my like my room, and so I was in
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: like bedroom area. They were filming it in the living
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: room area, and I like went in. I just said
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I needed to like just go change or something. And
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I didn't. I just closed the door and just sat
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: on my bed, and I was just like stress and
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: stress and stress, And because I knew how I felt
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: about Hannah, and but I knew how I was struggling
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: as well. I was like, what do I do here?
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: What do I do? What do I do? And I guess,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: you know, I felt a little bit of pressure with
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: the time crunch. Um maybe I could ask for more time.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't, And then, um, I just decided that I
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: was gonna go I was gonna go forward with it.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: The thing here is, Peter is like again, and I'm
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: just gonna keep filling this gap here, um because I
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: always think it's important for people to realize that, uh,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: like I just think it's healthy maybe for people to
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: realize this is real life. And as you sit there
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: and you try to confront some of these decisions that
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: were drastically and dramatically going to change your life for
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: the better, uh hopefully uh and at some level, no
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: matter what for the better, there there isn't always the
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: clear cut, um path, especially when you're in it and
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: you're sitting there. I just want to sit on this
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: for a second and allow you to explain yourself. Um,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: if you're sitting if you go back to that moment
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: and maybe just take it from like all of these
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: moments where you're on the show and all the confusion
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: and chaos it's being caused and you're getting I mean,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: there's so many moments during this season Peter that I
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: was just like, he's confused, like and not in a
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: hey you're like you just I mean, yeah, you just
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: got confused because of the chaos around you. I Mean
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: that was how the like, what is it like to
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: be in chaos in the midst of something brand new?
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Experience that you've never been a part of before, also
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: knowing where you're hoping this ends like for you personally, Like, yeah,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: what's it like? It's terrifying, it really is. I, Um, yeah,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I was extremely confused at that point. And then there's
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: just the added you know, you have so much kind
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: of just pressure. Whether you want to admit it or not,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: there is pressure. You're in an awkward environment and I
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: have you know, I've fully invested, you know, in multiple
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: women up to this point, and I'm just trying my
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: absolute best to navigate my feelings and just get like
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: a clear head and clear heart of exactly what I
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: want to do. And if I'm just being so honest,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever if I ever got
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: to that point where I had a clear head and
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: clear heart in a decision. And that sucks, but that's
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: the truth. And um I tried my damn best to
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: like get there, and and it just it was it
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: was something I struggled with because we're so confus use
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: and because you're so emotional. Did you ever think I'm
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: gonna try to pull a Wan Pablo here and ask
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: this girl to just to date me until I get
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: more clarity. I did think about that, and I don't know.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I just again I knew that I that I did
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: love Hannah Ann And again it just goes back to me.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I kept just thinking, Listen, I know I'm feeling a
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: heartbreak right now, and this part sucks. But I've gone
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: through every heartbreak I've ever felt, and eventually I'll get
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: through this. You know. I don't want to possibly, um
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: take away from the two of us a really special
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: moment that could turn into something amazing, because I'm hurting
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: right now, and I just I guess in my head,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: maybe it's the romantic in me, Like I I felt
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: like maybe Hannah and maybe she would have appreciated that more. Um,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: but I felt like it would have just been like
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: discouraging to her if if I just asked her that.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Um yeah, you know, there's a lot of things I
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: couldn't have done differently, but um, it did. It did
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: cross my mind a couple of times. And um, yeah,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: when you were laying on that bed and just you know,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: having that breakdown of sorts, how much did your family's
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: opinion on Hannah and sway you to make the decision
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: to propose. Yeah, I knew that Uh. You know, my
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: family loved Hannah and UM and I totally understood why.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Um it really it wasn't my It wasn't like that
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: wasn't I wasn't thinking about my family though at that
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: point I really wasn't. Um. I The only time I
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: kind of like was maybe a little stressed about my
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: family's opinion with that was we were flying when we
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: were flying out to uluru um for that date with Madison,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: and I remember talking to one of the producers and
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's a tough situation of being
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: like I don't know what to do right now. UM.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: But after that moment, like, no, when I was on
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: that bed, I was I wasn't thinking about my family's
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: opinion or anything. That was just thinking about what I needed. Peter.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: As we sit here in this moment, Um, I wanna
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I want to let you know there's there's a lot
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: more in your story that we need to get to, um,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: to close, uh, to close some of these gaps in
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: the experience that you had. So UM, I know this
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: experience for anybody's not easy. I know it's confusing. I
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: know there's a lot of tough decisions that have to
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: be made um, you are now looking back at it
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: and able to process it in a different way. We're
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: going to get to how you got to the place
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: that you're sitting out today, and and I really want
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: to spend some time with you just getting to know
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: you today and what you've learned before we do. I
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: know Ashley kind of wants to fill in some of
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: the gaps as I mentioned, Um in between, Uh, let's
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: take a break and when we come back, when we
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: come back with Peter Weber on this in depth episode
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: of the Almost Famous podcast. Alright, Peter, so now let's
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: go back to when you felt like things were falling
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: apart with Hannah Ann. Was it because you felt like
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: you guys were incompatible or was it because you kept
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: thinking about someone else? It was it was a little
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: bit of both. It was you know, I remember, I
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: think we had like three happy couples Hannah and and
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: I after after this, you know, the show and obviously
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: like that's the first time where you really you get
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: out of the show environment and you really just you
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: get to see your compatibility and you get to see
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: maybe how much you guys challenge each other in a relationship.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: And um, and and where that actually lies and uh,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: you know you don't have any of the distractions, Uh
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: the show can possibly hide or just you know, you know,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: damp in a little bit. UM And I think that, Yeah,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I just in my mind, UM, I think like the
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: biggest thing, I just I feel like in regards to compatibility,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think that we challenge each other enough. And
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: that was something that UM is important to me, you know,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: in a relationship and UM and yeah, and there was
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: definitely definitely stuff with you know, I haven't been afraid
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: to say, like with my feelings. Yeah, still that we're
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: unresolved with Madison. Um, you know that I had to
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: deal with. And it's tough not being able to you know,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: lean on you know, your you know, your your partner
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: when you really want to UM and you know, talk
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: things through and kind of event because that's just like
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: that's inappropriate. That's weird and awkward and not something that
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: you know, they want to hear. And I totally get that.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: So it was a tough time for me, but UM,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: it was just it was definitely a little bit of
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: both and uh, yeah, that's what it was. When Chris
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Harrison went to Alabama to talk to Maddie. Were you
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: informed that he was going to do this? Was this
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: something you kind of wanted him to do? No, No,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I had I had no idea. Um Man. The only
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: time I ever heard about that was producers today, Like
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: I guess there's pictures that were like taking of of
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: of Madison um in her hometown, But that was I
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: didn't know what exactly was going on. How do you
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: feel about that move? Um? I mean, you know, I
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: think I think Chris obviously he saw, you know, that
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: I was struggling. He knew why I was struggling, and
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: you know, I think he was just trying to, you know,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: try to help out in any way possible. Who knew
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: how that was going to turn out? But um, I wasn't.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I wasn't you know, mad about the about him doing that.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: So I didn't work out with Maddie. So with you know,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: that happens, you know, she surprises me and and then
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: we you know, we started contacting or you know, communicating
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: with each other, and we didn't see each other, you know,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: face to face until on stage again. That was the
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: next time. Which why was that? I think a lot
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: of people were wondering, why didn't you guys see each
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: other again. Yeah, I I think you asked both of us,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: and it's it's kind of it's it's a tough question
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: to answer, Like, I don't know, I think we should
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: have because I know we did talk. We wanted, like
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: going on stage, just to be really authentic and real
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: and just like not. Um, that's why we did that.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: That was legit the reason, Like I we had thought
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: about doing it, and I know, I remember a couple
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: of days, you know, before, when she had actually flown
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: out to l A again before a FAR. I remember like, no,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I need I think I think I need to we
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: need to see each other. And at that point it
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: was too late, and um, that wasn't possible. We were
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: able to face time though and communicate and it was
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: you know, we taught. We had some really good conversations.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: We talked everything through if this is actually something that
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: was possible, if we could do it, Um, why it
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: didn't work at a far obviously everything that happened there
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: and then moving on from there, we had about two
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: days that we spent with each other and um, you know,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: she came over that night, you know, for a little bit,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: and we just talked. We didn't really talk too much
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: about our relationship. We just wanted to be there for
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: each other and to support each other and I enjoy
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: each other's company. But then UM, the next day, her
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: mom had flown out and spent the day with her,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: and then so I don't really see her that day.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: But the second day is when I went over to
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: her her hotel and we spent pretty much the whole
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: day together just talked and UM literally talked everything through
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: UM and we we totally each other listen, put all
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: of our feelings and motions aside. This is all pure,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: just logical, just no feelings in this is this something
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: that can work. And we both came to just the
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: agreement that that it really wasn't UM. I know a
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: lot of people just get caught up in the whole
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: like the sex thing, and that's you know, saving uself
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: for marriage. That was honestly something that was really small
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: like that wasn't something that I don't think I could
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: have done. There was stuff on top of that that
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: kind of came with her her beliefs, and I totally
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: respect her for you know, I wasn't going to be
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: able to ever UM something I love to do in
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: my life is travel and go explore and especially do
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: with my significant other. And I wasn't going to be
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: able to do that with her because she, you know,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: is also saving herself from for marriage just spending the
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: night with with you know, with a guy. And you know,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: even just back at home, we had our you know,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I had my apartment, she had hers. You know, she
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: was never able to spend the night with me. And
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: that's something that I really use to just even if
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: there's no physical anything going on, just that closeness and
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: waking up with your person the next morning is stuff
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: that's important for me in a relationship. And there so
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that people didn't know that
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: we just weren't compatible with the Peter. I mean, I
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: think that's where, um, one of the things that I
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: want to get your opinion on is, you know, we
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: watched the season before with Luke Parker, and he had
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: he had some similar like kind of put my foot
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: in the ground feelings on faith and their convictions and
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: their morals and the kind of the choices they were making.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: And then we get to Maddie and people were comparing
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: the two. But it felt like your response to Maddie
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: bringing up these concerns was different than Hannah Bees. It
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: felt like you were we're not angry as much, or
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: you know, you want brought off what what do you
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: think the biggest difference was between the way that Maddie
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: and Luke approached it. If there was one, and you know,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: everybody talked about the double standard here. Do you believe
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: there was one or do you believe it's it's different. No,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: I think it's different, and I think it's Yeah, they
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: were totally approached differently. I think everyone thinks that, you know,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Madison gave me an ultimatum into this day, I don't
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: feel like she ever gave me an ultimatum. She literally
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: just expressed to me what was on her heart, something
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I asked every woman to do the first night in
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: the mansion, and uh, you know, she didn't say you
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: have to do that. She said this was going to
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: be difficult for me, and I want you to know that. Um.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: I thought she approached it in the best way possible.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: The only critique I could have had for her was
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: possibly doing it sooner in the process and maybe being
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: a little bit more open with you know, the extent
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: of the virginity and the extent of you know where
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: how she was filing with me. But that is, in
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: my opinion, completely different than anything with Luke and Hannah.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Um and uh, I don't yeah, I don't compare to
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: you at all. I think that's the thing that you
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: know as viewers, UM, as viewers, I think we watch
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: it like it was. It felt like an ultimatum. But
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: what you're saying is no exactly who you want to do.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: In any relationships you date, you get to know somebody,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: you ask them to be as open about what things
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: are important to them as possible at some point. And
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: and I think this is a good caveat my opinion,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: which matters a little bit because we host this podcast,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: is um that ultimately you're you're two people who pursued
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: a relationship, who are attracted to each other and intrigued
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: by each other. And one of the most important things
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: in her life was something that you maybe didn't feel
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: similarly on and it just didn't work. But like it's
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: hard to say goodbye to somebody great in your life,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: even if you disagree on some massive things, But when
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: you care and love somebody, some of those little disagreements
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: get pushed away because you just enjoy them as a person,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: but when it comes down to spending your life with them,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: they become massively important. Like they are deal breakers, and
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: deal breakers are not bad. Deal breaks are great, especially
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: when it breaks a deal that was not going to
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: be healthy for one or two of the parties involved. Right,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: So for you as you sit there where're at now
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: and I just explained your breakup, which was like incredibly
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: like out of me, I'm sorry about that, but um,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: but as you sit there now and you look Maddie
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: in the eyes as she's telling you the things you
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: and you look Maddie in the eyes the day after
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: far when you're trying to process this and you're just going,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to say goodbye to you, Like, what
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: was that like then? Because again I say it, I
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: said all this to get to the point in the
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: understanding that like you were saying goodbye to still somebody
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: you cared about even though it wasn't gonna work, right, No,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: it was, it was. It was super tough. I remember
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: that that exact day, and we probably spent six hours
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: just laying on her bed just talking everything through. And
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: it was like I keep saying it was it was
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: like that point in a relationship where if people have
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: been through it, they can relate. You know, you go
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: and there's ups and downs, and there's a lot of struggles, right,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: and you may break up once or twice, but there's
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: that point where you actually know it's for sure ending
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: and like there's no come back from this. And I
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: think the two of us we we we had that
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: kind of like sense and that we knew that was
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: kind of how the day was going to end with
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: with the two of us, and it was super sad.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: We literally we cried and we laughed and we listen
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: to music, We made videos and then cried some more
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: and then talked everything through and just there is no
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: like love loss there at all. But I think, you know,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: for the first time and to be completely honest, really
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: just proving like my mom, where her delivery could have
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: been a lot different, she was just right in the
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: end and like we just weren't compatible for each other. UM.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: And the show, the nature of the show allowed for
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: us not to really see those you know, those issues
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: so much, but kind of getting into real life UM
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: and then really reflecting you see, like listen, it sucks
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: like you have. You can feel so strongly for someone
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: and but you need those you need to be compatible
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: on some certain huge life life issues. If you're not,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: it's really just not going to work out in the end.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: And that's really all that it was. And um, I
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: think we both just came to that realization together at
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: the same time, and that's when it, you know, we
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: made the decision to not pursue anything. So, Peter, I
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: completely agree that you and Maddie are incompatible. That's the
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: reason that it ended. But I have to ask, because
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: the audience is wondering. You brought Maddie home that day
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: after after the final rows. She she was with possibly
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: your mom after your mom just who was so so
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: rough on her. I just want to know how uncomfortable
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: that was for her. No, so I didn't We didn't
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: go back back to my house. So we we were
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: for the show. We were put up in hotels a
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: couple of days prior, in a couple of days after
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: afar Um, so we just like that night, I just
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: had her. She came over to my hotel for a
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: little bit, and then two days later I went over
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: to her hotel. Um and then that's you know, that's
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: the last time I saw her. But yeah, I mean,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: and I'll just add like, yeah, that was obviously a
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: far was tough for everyone involved, but um, you know,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: it could have gone differently obviously both sides. And I again,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I will defend my mom, not necessarily like the delivery
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: and she'll be the first admitted, but her just being
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: able to on live TV, with the pressure that that
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: comes with, um, even against other opinions, be able to
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: truly speak her mind of her opinion for the love
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: of her son is in my opinion, a really beautiful thing.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: And you know, I obviously I felt uncomfortable being in
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: the middle of that because I care about Maddie like
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: no other and I obviously love my family like no other. Um,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: but you know, obviously you wish things could happen a
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: little bit differently, but it is what it is. And um, yeah,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of us were at home watching
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: and thinking something must have happened, more like we're not
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: getting the full story here. Was there anything? No, I
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: mean as far as like your mom's dislike towards Maddie,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: And again, it wasn't even like my mom's like dislike
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: towards Maddie. She doesn't dislike Maddie at all, it's just
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: that she knows and she was very passionate in the
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: moment that we just weren't compatible and it wasn't gonna work.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: And um, listen, theer's things, you know, I know, like
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: with the with the you know, they're going back to
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: like waiting for a couple of hours out in Australia.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Um listen, it was because my actions that caused that.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: But yeah, we we made my parents wait that long,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: and um, there's just things that obviously led to frustration.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you know, you know,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: she was right. My mom was right. And again the
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: delivery could have been different, no doubt, but um, yeah
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: she was right. So while this is happening and your
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: mom is having tension with Maddie, there's another lady sitting
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: there that wasn't there for women tell all, which raised
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: some red flags. And her name was Kelly. Again, is
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: there anything you want to share about your feelings? Starts
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Kelly at the moment? Yeah, I mean yeah, I'm open
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: book with that. Um, you know, Kelly is someone that
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I just we've always just gone along really well, and
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: starting from before we met, you know before the show. Um,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately the show for her wasn't like the best kind
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: of opportunity to possibly find uh, you know, fine love.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: She she will be the first one to admit it.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: She was very uncomfortable throughout at all, and just it
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: wasn't her cup of tea. Um. But Kelly and I
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: outside of that just connected and it's been just really
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: kind of weird how life has just kind of happened
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: with us. And met her before the show, ran into
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: her completely random in Miami after the show, um, very
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: very briefly just said high but pretty much. And then
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: after that ran into her a third time out in
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: l A through mutual friends. And so just been a
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: really good relationship someone that um, I've just really gone
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: along went really well. And uh and I think the
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: world of Kelly, no doubt about that. So uh well, Peter,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: let's uh, let's take a break. When we come back,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: we're gonna continue talking to Peter Weber about his time
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: on the show, his life now, and what his romantic
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: interests look like today. Before the break, we talked to
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Peter about Kelly Plan again, who was a part of
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: his season. We also talked about Maddie, who was a
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: part of his season. There's one person that we haven't
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: spoken about, which, ultimately, Peter, uh, you were engaged to
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: at the very end, and that's Hannah ann Uh. Hannah
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: hand had had caught the attention of the fans and
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: yourself during the season. She obviously her story ended, I
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: would say, and I don't know again, I'm explaining all
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: this as a fan, but like abruptly in a sense,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: like we you were engaged to her, all of a sudden,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: we see her on the live show, then she's gone,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: and the story becomes about Madison and yourself and now
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: obviously about Kelly and you, Peter. If we could, though,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: let's sit on Handah and for a second. Really, three
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: things I want to ask you. One is is why Hannah?
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: And at the end, the second thing they just kind
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: of clear up is was Hannah and like your second
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: choice and because Maddie left, she was just the best
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: option standing in front of you and if not, why?
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: And then third is is how did your breakup kind
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: of feel to you? Like what what was that whole process? Like? Yeah,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: I so for Hannah, and I I am a huge
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Hannah and fan, and I will always do that way,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: no matter you know, how she feels about me. Um,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: She's someone that just had one of the most like
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: just beautiful souls and just hearts that I truly have
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: ever seen. And that sounds so cliche, but it's just
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: it was so true and someone that I think for
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: the first time, kind of showed me the kind of
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: love that I really always was looking for from someone,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: some love that I think was on par with a
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: love I feel like I've always shown women in the
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: past that I've dated. It might may have not been reciprocated.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: I remember always saying that was one of the biggest
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: things I needed, was someone having that heart willing to
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: give that amount of love to me. And she was
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: and I saw it, you know it almost with Hannah,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: and she she's like very like it almost seems like
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: fake to away, but she because she just seems almost
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: like so close to perfect, but she is like that's
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: just who she is. That's Hannah Ann and she's nothing
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: about her is fake. Um. She you know, I always
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: would say that she just has like this beautiful, like
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: innocence that combines effortlessly with like all this confidence at
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: the same time, and it's like it's a very unique
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: quality that I just have never really seen in someone.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: And you know, listen, I I fell in love with
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Hannah and I did, and um, you know, it breaks
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: my heart of how everything happened. Um, she wasn't Listen.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: I know people you can try to some as well. Well,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: she was just the second option. She wasn't. Like I
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: kind of said earlier in the podcast, I think really
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: if it would have been the other way around, I
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: would have struggled just as much with Hannah and leaving
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: abruptly like that, and just like having that heartbreak and
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: having to deal with it. Um, you know, did I
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: maybe possibly try to convince myself a little prematurely too
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: that I was ready to get engaged. Yeah, sure I can.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: I can say that. Um, but it really wasn't just
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: nothing about that was Hannah and as being uh well
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: she's my second. No, it wasn't like I was all
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: about Hannah, and I truly was. I saw exactly what
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: my family saw and um, you know, I mean every
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: single word of that. Um with the breakup. I I
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: struggled with that like no other And that was just
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: like I was just so depressing for me knowing that
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: you know that was coming, and UM, it was really
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: tough for me because I wasn't able to just because
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: the nature of the show and it's tough sometimes trying
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: to balance it. But I wasn't able to really give
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: her like the heads up that I necessarily wanted to
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: um because obviously that has to get filmed, and like
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: that part sucks, UM, But like I wish I could have,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: And you know, I knew she probably thought it was coming,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: she could probably feel it. But having to do that
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: and just knowing that I was, you know, probably breaking
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: her heart and just completely just out of nowhere, just
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: surprising her with that, Like it just tore me apart.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: It tore me apart, Like why did you get to
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: how did you get there? That's one thing we didn't
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: see is like what we assumed as viewers it was
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: because you had feelings for Madison. Well that's one of
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: the things here. And I think there's been a little
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: bit of an injustice just because of not editing, not production.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: I don't want to use as excuses just because your
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: story is so complex that it's impossible to tell it
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: and to show it and like in the amount of
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: time that they had, but Like what's confusing for me
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: is as a friend, as a fan of whatever, is
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: like watching this going wait he broke up with Hannah
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: and because he's into Madison, but yeah, him and Madison
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: wereked together two days after the finale. That's weird to me.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: It's like, what what was going on? Like what? Why
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: did you really why? Why did that break up really happen? Yeah,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: because I have to say Maddie's name was never brought
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: up to during that conversation, right well again that she
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: was just a part of it. She wasn't all of it.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: And I wouldn't even say most of it, Like I
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: just remember, I remember there's like a lot of moments
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: that just kind of like broke my heart while we
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: were just together a happy couple and like the happy
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: couple of weekends, and she was just like Hannah Anne
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: was just so just so amazing in that relationship and
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: was giving me everything and I could feel it one
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: from her, and I mean, obviously a little bit was
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: at Naddie, but like I just I wasn't able to,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: like I saw myself not being able to match that
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: one with her and give her exactly what she was
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: giving me. And that's what I hated, and I was
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: not okay with that, and like I kept thinking, well,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: you know, the next time I see her, it's gonna
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be able to get there with her, and
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: the next time and the next time, and it just
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: it didn't. And it just came down to I. I
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: mean I told her this, like I didn't feel like
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: it was fair to keep her in a relationship, and
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: she could feel it. She could feel me not being
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: able to give that. We would have conversations, you know,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: on the phone, and we weren't together about it of
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: why that was. And I just hated putting her through that,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: and she was she was struggling with it a lot,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: you know. She would tell me how stressed she was,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: and it just and she couldn't, you know, because she
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: didn't tell literally, we didn't tell any of our friends
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: that it was the two of us, like literally only
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: our family, our immediate families, and now we had a
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: group text with all of them, but nobody else outside
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: of that new and um, she couldn't invent and go
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: just talk to her friends about it, and that just
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: like that was killing me. All these things kind of combined.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: I just like I can't do this to this girl,
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: like I I know that, like I fell in love
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: with her, but I'm not I can't match what she's
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: giving me. And I just didn't feel good about that.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: And you know that is really the biggest reason of
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: why I I broke it all. I ended it. You know,
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: it's like that, it's the it's almost cliche, but it's
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: like the traditional hey it's not you, it's me kind
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: of thing, and like it's the true. It's like there's
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: no other way to explain it. It's just like it's me.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I can't I can't get there. Yeah, that's
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: really like, that's that's what it was. So now we
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: lead into obviously we watched it, we experienced it. Um
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: you and Hannah Ann had ended things were going after
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: the final rows. We've discussed that in pretty good detail.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: I think to this point we get what happened there,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: like and I think, but you knownd if I just
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: like on that real quick like heart, because I've struggled
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: like why why is that? Why? What? Why was I
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: able to go and get engaged and then and not
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: and then have these feelings and like nothing against the show.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: I love the show and I've always been the biggest
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: you know, just advocate for this show and that it works.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: But to be just fair, me just processing all this
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: and looking back at the end of the day, I
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: spent maybe forty hours you know with her, I did,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: like consecutive hours. And for me, you know, obviously it's
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: an engagement and it's it's that's a real thing, and
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: that was but in a way it almost to me,
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: I guess, you know, it was like it's almost like
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: a promise ring to continue it. You've known her for
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: forty hours and I don't know everything about her, and um,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm not trying to say that
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: as an excuse, but like I'm that's how I kind
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: of a process and like realized why I did what
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: I did, um, and why I wasn't where I thought
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: I should be. I'm like, listen, I didn't. I haven't
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: even known her for that long. Yeah, I mean it
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: can work, Like that's the thing is we've said it
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: can work, but there's still a lot to be I mean,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think Harrison would agree, like once the
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: show's done, there's still a lot to get to know.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: And it works sometimes like in a beautiful way. Like
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: all the pieces still aligned, and you go, yeah, this
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: is amazing, like it's it's been proven. But there there's
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: moments where all of a sudden, you go, I'm not
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: you know, for multiple reasons, like I'm not into this
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: as much as I thought I was, and because of that,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: it's not fair to continue. I get that. Um, you know,
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: I've been through similar things. It doesn't make it any easier,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: and it doesn't make it any easier to understand from
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: a public point of view, But I know. And what's
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: tough too, is like you guys, you you then remember
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: you like I asked you for so much advice about
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: because I would you know, I was possibly having struggles
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: and and whatnot. And you know the biggest struggles. You know,
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: you guys don't have that super solid foundation formed yet.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: You just don't. You can't. It is not enough time.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: And now you gotta go thrust into a couple of
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: months of isolation. You're not even getting to see each other,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: you know, except for a couple of times here and there.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: You have all these comments, all these rumors coming out
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: about you guys, all these kind of attacks on the relationship.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: It's tough, you know, And I remember you just being
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: like just constantly reassurance to her, like you know, you
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: don't know who it was, but like give it to her,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: give it to her, and um, it's it's just a
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: really tough situation. To me, I didn't expect it to
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: be that tough. It just comes time in years. I
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: didn't know what how this ended. I mean, usually the
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Bachelor will call and say, hey, Ben, like something I
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: can talk about, like, you know, can I trust you?
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: And I think the show I don't know if they did,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: but the show usually goes, yeah, you can call Ben,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: like talk to him about it. He's good for this.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: And then for you had no clue. It was just like, hey,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even know how this ended. Actually,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: and I were like, I would have no clue. We didn't, um,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: but it was like reassure her that you're trying. I
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: guess it's like the best you can do. Um. Actually,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: sorry I cut you off there, No, no, I just
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: listen to your story. Peter makes me feel like you
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: got put in a really sticky situation once Madison was
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: brought back into the picture. When you didn't decide to
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: bring her back into the picture at that point, because
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: it sounds like you and Hannah and were just incompatible
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: and it wasn't Was it unfair to bring Madison into
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: that so quickly? Um, I guess from how the TV
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: played it, it wasn't necessarily that quickly. Um. You know,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: we had broken up in in January. Um, and then
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't see Madison until I think it
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: would have maybe late late February early early March, right
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: before the finale. Um. It wasn't like right away, but yeah,
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: it was that confused. Yeah, and that confused me even more. Yeah,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: it did. Um. I don't know if I would say unfair,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: but just confusing the you know, I want everybody out
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: there listening, because I do think Peter, there's uh, I
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: think your story is so complex. Like I think what
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: we watched in your season at first was like, oh this,
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: we're not getting to know these women at all. Peter
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: is just like super confused. There's chaos all the time,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: But really, when you dig below the surface, it's because
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: there is a lot of complexity to it. You know,
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: we don't take into account a lot of times, like
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: what you were doing to try to protect these girls,
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: or what you weren't saying to try to protect these girls,
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: or what you weren't saying to try to protect relationships
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: or then fast forward, as we just talked about, like
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: move into breakups and engagements, and like, there's so much
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: left unsaid and left unseen that just confuse us. Um,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: And so I want to take the remainder of this
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: podcast to dive into the things that have been most
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: confusing for us as viewers of fans, as friends, as
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: you know, family. Um. But let's take a break, take
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: a breather, a good glass of water. We'll come back
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: with Peter on the Almost Famous in Death podcast. We're
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: back with Peter Webber. Peter, Uh, just to summarize what
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: we've been so far. We just got done talking about
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: Hannah and and your engagement and your breakup and kind
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: of some of the reasons why. I'm sure that doesn't
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: explain at all, but that you know, we get a
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: good taste of why it ended the way it did.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: You know. Now we flash forward in the time in between, um,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: because we're gonna do this podcast kind in a timeline.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: We see the finale and one of the things that
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: broke my heart, and I don't know if you've listened
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: to the podcast before. Uh, Peter, but you know, my mom,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: my dad and I are very close. Uh. I love
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: them dearly. During the show, one of my biggest fears
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: was how they would come off, because I know they
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: didn't sign up for this. Um. It's one of the
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: reasons why when we did uh the live shows with him,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: I said, hey, just be very like when you start
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: to think, you want to say something like check yourself
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: seven times before you start to speak, because they get
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: very passionate their parents of a kid who let's be
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: clear here, uh, outside of a few exemptions, like their
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: parents of kids who are getting engaged on a show
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: two people they've never met, especially when they care about
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: their son or daughter. Uh. And this is something I
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: mean for me and my family comes from a background
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: of faith. Like my mom has told me many times
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: she's prayed for my wife since the day I was born.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine that coming from a like me coming
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: to her one day in a two hour period and going, hey, Mom,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: this is my wife. I get my parents freak out
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: and actually feel alone here, Like my parents had a
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: really hard time with this, Okay, Um, but that still
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: doesn't negate and I want you as a son, because
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: I can only imagine, man, like if I was you,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: like Ashley can attest to this. Yes, just like you know,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: fans of the show, we're like, what was Barb doing?
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you felt the same way, like Mom, I
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: would feel the same way, Mom, what are you doing?
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Please stop talking, like we'll figure this out later. Just
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: like not on natural television. I can't do this now,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: skip over that because that happened as a son trying
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: to protect his mother and seeing the record, like the
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: repercussion from her comments and her behavior on a show,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: and knowing where it came from. What does that feel
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: like to you? It? Really it was tough for a while,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: especially at the beginning. Um, those were some like tough
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: days just to like see, yeah, the attention that my
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: mom was getting in that way, um and then just
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: having but just having time to kind of like really
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: reflect on it and just talk with my mom and everything. Um.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: Listen again, I know that my mom. Everyone that knows
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Barb knows that she's extremely passionate and um emotional, and
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: that's kind of where I get that from. But there's
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: one thing that I wish I got a little bit
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: more from my mom, and that was just again like her,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: like her voice, and again we don't have to discuss
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: like the delivery of it, because that obviously just it was.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: It could have been different, but her voice and not
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: being afraid or wanting to like just follow the you know,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: the direction of how a conversation should be going or
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: that that part of the show. You know, like she
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: she effectively was standing up for me and what she
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: truly thought was in my best interest. And um, that's
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: something that's not easy to do against against so much opposition.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: It's just not and something I just wish that I
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: had a little bit more of in me, um, you know,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: and just like having my voice be heard and putting
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: my foot down in situations and just be like no,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: like this is what I feel. And um, but Peter
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: like and maybe and tell me if I'm crazy here.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: H But as much as I know my mom, like
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: my mom had trouble, I'll be as as clear as that,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: like she had troubles trouble with my experience on this
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: she loves you know. There was this time where when Jessica,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: my fiance now and I first met, my mom wrote
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: me or actually called me. She wrote me a letter,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: uh previous relationship, but called me this time and she
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: just said, I just want you to know how happy
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: I am for you, like and like those words mental
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: lot to me. I knew that they weren't coming lightly.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: I knew there was a heaviness to them, but a
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: heaviness that I loved and appreciated because I knew she
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: had that I had her support, uh with my my
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: now fiance. But I say this in the context of
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: I remember during the sea the time on these final shows,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: being having a fear of embarrassment, like a middle school
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: me came back out of me and it was like, Mom,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: please don't say dad, Mom, and dad, please don't say
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: anything too crazy here out of protection of me, because
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: I know it's coming from a good place, because of
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: the embarrassment that will ensue for me afterwards. And I
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: don't want to be embarrassed for you because I love you,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: and so like you say that, like I know we
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: all know that Barb is coming from a place of
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: protection and love for you, like that's never been questioned.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: But the part that hurt was like some level, and
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: and you yell at me if you don't agree, like
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: at some level's embarrassing, like it would have embarrassed me too.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: I had a fear of, like, Mom, please, Dad, please
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: don't say too much because I don't want to have
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: to protect you the public, because I love you so
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: much and I know you're coming from a good place,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: but they might not. Yeah, I I could totally see
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: how that could like be embarrassing. I really could. But
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: I think that I don't know, I guess maybe just
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: the way I've been raised in like in like that,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: that's just every household, you know. They usually conversations like
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: that occur behind closed doors, but conversations like that do occur,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: and there's no doubt about that. Ours just happened, happen
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: on live television, and I don't know, I maybe I'm
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: weird about it, but it's I was just in that moment,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: I was trying to stand up for what I was,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: you know, I believe in what I wanted, But I
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: don't I never looked at it as as embarrassing or
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: anything like that. It's just I guess we've just kind
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: of I don't know, I guess we've just become so
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: open to kind of having been in this world for
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: the last year and obviously my parents were really involved
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: with both seasons. Um, just letting people into our a
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: conversation that occurs between family members, and not every conversation
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: is pretty and not every conversation people agree on and
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: it's all butterflies. That's real life. And I think at
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's one of the beauties
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: of the show. Is it just it is real life. Yeah,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: as a production that happens, of course, is there's something
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: that has to happen for drama entertainment, sure, but you know,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: one of the beauties is it's real life. And that
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: was just another aspect of real life that Yeah, it's
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: never been shown before on TV, but that was just
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: family talking and family doesn't always agree. There's nothing wrong
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: with that. So uh So then I asked, so if
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: that's and and that's great man, I'm I agree with you.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: That's a good perspectives. Like these conversations. You know, you
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: you know, Ashley's dogs bark in the background and she
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: yells at her mom. You know, my parents walk through
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: the background of the video and they distract me and
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: I'm like, guys, get out of the room. Like that
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: just happens, Like that's part of life. That's a part
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: of the relationship. So then it leads me to this
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: is if this was hard to watch on TV, Uh,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: it was real life things as we've talked about. Um,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: for Anny, bet there listening that goes hey like but
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: but okay. But these kind of conversations are also the
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: conversations that can separate families right right when talking about
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: significant others, when talking about love, when talking about future,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: like yes, for you, this might have felt like, of
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: course she's protecting me, but for somebody out there watching
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: could have been like, oh, if my family had that
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: kind of conversation, this ruins us. So if somebody's listening
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: going like that felt like a heavier conversation than my
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: family has ever had, and that felt harder to come
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: back from than anything I've ever experienced with my parents,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: what was the healing process? Like? Uh? And as much
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: detail the better, because I do think there's probably somebody
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: out there going how in the world do you heal
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: and come back together and love and support for your
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: family after seeing that kind of conversation go down. Yeah,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: I mean I just I I took I went back
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: to the hotel, was there for a couple of days. Um,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: just obviously everyone just took some time to cool down.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: We were, you know, just texting each other and just
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: checking in, making sure doing okay, but you know, just
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: giving it some time. And um, you know, after the
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: conversation I had had with uh, with Maddie and we
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: decided to just you know, go our separate ways, you know,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: I went home and um, I yeah, it was it.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: You know, a little awkward at first, of course, but
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: you know, I it's just I know it probably sounds crazy,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: but like my family just we just have always been
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: so close and it's like one of those things where
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: you know, I remember walking in and my parents were
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: they were making uh, they were making dinner in the
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: in the kitchen, and I just went up first. I
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: just like I gave him a hug, and I like,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: I went mom for a long time, get my dad
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: a hug, and um, you know, I just told him
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: that I loved them, and you know, we started talking
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: about obviously what had gone down, um, and and that
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: was it, Like that was I know, it sounds like
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: that sounds insane, but like it wasn't. My My parents
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: weren't like they weren't attacking, you know, they weren't attacking
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: me or uh. They were always trying to have my
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: back in that. And so we just discussed. I pretty
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: much explained to them the conversations that I had had
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: with Madison and kind of like how I see it,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: and you guys, yeah, you've kind of been right. You
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: have been right, and um, it's never been like my
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: parents they never had they never like hated Madison. It
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: wasn't that. It just they knew that it wasn't gonna work.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: And that's where there, that's what was causing the direction
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: of that of that conversation. Um. Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: I think people were like maybe hope, I don't know
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: if they want to see like drama or attention, but
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: it's just not the way my family roles, Like I
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: don't know, it's just we're very close knit and close
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: and um, I mean, if anybody's sitting out there, no
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: matter what your parents did, no like they could like
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: and they're going, I hope this like ends poorly for them,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: Like I want to see drama, intension, and I want
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: to hear a story of them like slamming doors in
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: their face and not talking for two weeks, like that's
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: messed up. Oh yeah, I ask you this question because
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know there was healing. Uh, it's all
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: we wanted. Yes, it made for a lot of conversation,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: and it made for more more of the healing then
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: was coming from us. Just like I wanted to be
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: there for my parents, my parents wanted to be there
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: for me, and we I guess just it just knew
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: that it would be better to be supportive of each
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: other and be there for each other because we were
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: getting attacked just from the outside, so we didn't have
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: to be attacking each other. Not that we would have
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: done that, but it just just for that healing process,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: which you're so right, we are still going through. Um,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: I just knew that, you know, come together, don't push
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: each other apart right now, And that's kind of why
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: we did that. I would. I think there becomes an
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: age in like a maturity level where if you have
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: the ability, right, there's obviously pain within families that you
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: and I haven't experienced and we can't speak to, but
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: there becomes a maturity level of a sudden you do
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: make that commitment like your parents make it to you,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: and you make it them to say like no matter what,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: like I'm gonna have your back here and I love
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: you and no matter what, no matter what, and like
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: we're gonna work through some really tough stuff because we're
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: all human and we all mess up, and we all
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: it gets convoluted and crazy, especially when your son goes
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: on national television to find love. I get that I've
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: been there, buddy. Um My mom and dad and I
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: are closer than ever. Um, and I'm glad to hear
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: that there there was healing or they're just like there
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: was like a process to work through. Um, Peter, we
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: got to jump into you today and I know we've
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: kept you longer than we told you. But uh, there's
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: some there's just some massive headlines. I mean I'm gonna
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: read them here. Um, just a few. Uh that's brought
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: you to this point. Uh talk, This is not coming
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: from the almost famous podcast. These are things that you're
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: reading as well. So much for True Love. Bachelor Peter
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: Webber and Madison Pruitt split days after dramaic finale. Peter
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: Webber and Kelly Flannagin appeared to confirm romance rumors as
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: bachelor starts to isolate together. Uh. Um, you know we've
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: had I'll skip over some of these here. The point
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: of that was, like, you've been on the news. You
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: haven't stopped being in the news, um since your time
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: on the show, Um, just a few short weeks ago, Kelly,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: what would you like to say? Like, what what is
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: going on there? Uh? Pretty bed out there listening. It's
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: reading rumors that are seeing the pictures. Like, it's not
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: a secret you guys are together. I mean I think
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: you're I just got a TikTok to you and I
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: are being compared to each other by how bad we wait,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: we don't like, do a TikTok challenge together or something. Yeah,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: to see who to get the most mean comments. That'll
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: be good. But they're actually energy. Those I love to read.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Those are fun. So it's not a secret you guys
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: are hanging out. Uh. Truth is truth is truth, as
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: we like to say, here, tell us your truth. What
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: is going on? What do you want the world to know? Yeah?
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: So my truth? I mean I'm in Kelly's apartment right now. Uh,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: I'm in Chicago, so I'm quarantined up with her and
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: Destin and let's see. So to go back so people
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: can understand this. Um, we so we had met up
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: again in l A when we just through like a
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: mutual friend Christian. I'm not sure if you know Christian Haggardy,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: UM shout out to her. Just had her birthday eight
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: but she was so Kelly uh is good friends with
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: one of Christian's friends and Katie and through her brothers
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: and so Christian and then we're hanging out. I was
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: a Dylan. We uh all ended up un into each
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: other that one night in l A got her number
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: and UM started communicating always just you know, obviously been
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: very supportive of each other. UM. And then pretty much
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: long story short, you know, Kelly was you know, having
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: some stuff she was doing with with her family, just
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: um like um, just like health issue stuff. And UM,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: I wasn't flying for a while, so you know, I
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: knew she was by herself. She never roommates. I guess
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: her family was all in Florida, she was in Chicago.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: Decided to fly out and spent some time with her
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: and just kind of take her mind off things. UM.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: That's when this was all kind of like the quarantine
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: stuff was like okay, stay home and UM, so I
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: decided to just kind of make this kind of like
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: my home base. UM. On top of that, I realized
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: it's probably smart to do because my parents are in
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: their sixties. I still wanted to live at home, not
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: going to risk you know, obviously I have to fly
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: still as an essential workers, so I didn't want to
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: risk bringing something home to them. So this is the
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: place to be. And UM, you know, we've just been
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: hanging out and we really get along really really well.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: And I you know, I love you know, every second
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: I spent with Kelly. UM. You know, she's an amazing
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: person and we just always have been supportive of each other. Um,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: you know, are are we dating? No? Um? I am
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: the first person to admit that I I've been through
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: so much, the emotional roller coaster of all roller coasters,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: and the last thing I need to do is to
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: jump into another relationship. I just was engaged a couple
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: weeks ago, figuring out another relationship. But Kelly has just
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: been someone that is just honestly just She's been there
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: for me and something that I just really really appreciate,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: and I'm trying to be there for her. Um. And
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: we just we get along really well and have really
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: good chemistry. And you know, who knows what the future holds. Um,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying nothing could happen, but right now, I
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: just taking things really slow and enjoying each other's time.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: This is one of the only times in the history
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: of the world that, especially for you, Peter, that you
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: could literally make the comment we're not dating, but because
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: of self isolation, it's not weird to say you're living together. Okay,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: That's why I was just going to clarify. I was gonna, like,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: you say you're not dating. You're saying that you're not exclusive,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: but you're like definitely kissing, right listen, No, no, no
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: comment on that, but I will just say that, Um,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: it is weird, right, just keeps getting more and more confusing,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: Like what's up with my life right now? What's next?
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know? Um, but no, yeah, there's there's no rumors.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: That's just that's the truth. And um, I mean Kelly
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: is in there. If you guys wanted to see hider
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: so but yeah, yeah Kelly, yeah, bring her in here. Um, Peter,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: you as she walks in and get kind of gets
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: settled here. Um, you seem not oddly. I was gonna
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: say oddly, that's the wrong word. You seem uh more
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: at peace right now, um than what I expected, right,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: like I just expected. I mean, I think anytime anybody
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: gets off of a season, if it ends well or not,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: there's like this anxiety. There's this little panic. It's a
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: confusion on how to enter back into the world. You
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: get more attention than ever. People are taking pictures of
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: you walking down the street, like it gets weird. You
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: seem very much at peace right now. Would um and
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: I hope Kelly does coming because I would love for
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: you to hear this, But like, how much of that
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: is because of Kelly? Honestly a time, Um, yeah, Kelly
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: is just I mean since we kind of reconnected, Um,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: you know, I know, it's so funny, like everyone thought
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: that there was this thing with my mom and Kelly.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: Wait before that really wasn't My mom just really supportive
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: of Kelly and like Kelly, I don't know if there
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: was the whole Chicago connection, but um, so Kelly is
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: just constantly shown me that support and just been someone
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: that I've been able to talk to you that kind
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: of just gets it. We just went through a very
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: similar experience and we just unfortunately on the show, like
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: the show wasn't the perfect avenue for us to really
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: get along well. But life's weird and you you know
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: how you always say, like you things happen for a reason,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: and you know, you never know why it's happening or
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: you know in the moment. But um, I don't know.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: Kelly just someone that I'm extremely grateful for that you know,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: she can be in my life right now, Um, and
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: during such a difficult time. Uh she I know, she
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: always made the comments like on this show like oh,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: she just wants to have fun and like I wasn't
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: having enough fun and like rewarding the you know, the
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: drama or whatnot. But Kelly is like the smartest person
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: I ever met and just um is so patient and
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: just uh, it's just someone that I at the end,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: they just really get along with really well, and honestly,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: like I I'm just really happy that we're able to
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: spend time together during this time. And that's probably why
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: you're seeing me, Um maybe not so down and and ancious.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: Trust me, I've been that way. I've I've had my moments,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: but um, Kelly's definitely helped me kind of push through
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: that and you know I owe a lot of that
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: to her. I gotta say, from a rom com point
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: of view, your relationship with Kelly and all the serendipity
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: that just keeps popping up, the fact that you guys
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: met before the show, you kept running into each other
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: in the middle of the show. Uh, definitely mix for
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: a good movie ending if you guys do end up,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: you know, finishing this quarantine with wanting to spend even
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: more time together. Right, I guess that'll be the true test.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: Once we're a lot of like escape and leave this department,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: are we're gonna still spend all our time? Hello, Howdy,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: all right, we got a special guest appearance. Hey, Kelly,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: come on down and sit for it's just a second here.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: Hey Kelly, Hello, it's the attorney. Chop Chop Kelly. We
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: just got done talking to Peter a little bit about
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: kind of how you guys reconnected and um, what you
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: guys are doing right now. He said, it's funny he
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: won't admit that you're dating, but he says you're like
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: self isolating together. So I said, it's the only time
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: that you can live together without dating, and it's okay
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: for the world. Um. He also has mentioned how good
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: you've been to him during this whole experiences he's kind
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: of going through not recovery, but just like processing at all.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: Why are you being so good to this man? Like
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: why what is it that you've seen in him? What
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: is it that you've empathized with that you're going I
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: need to lean into this, this person who I'm assuming
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: you care about in some way, to be completely honest,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but since I've been young, I've always
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: just been like a little helper in terms of taking
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: people under my wing and just like kind of leading
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: them in the right direction. And especially with him, like
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: you could tell he's super smart and he gets it,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: but there's some things where you just want to shake
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: him and be like wake up, Like why what are
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: you doing? I don't know why I took it, like
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: in under why I took him under my wing? But
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: there's just some things that I could see that I
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: could tell he couldn't see, and I just felt the
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: need to be like, Peter, what the hell are you doing?
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: And especially with him, I could be like completely honest
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: with him, like believe me, I don't hold back on anything.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: Like he hears the hard truth on everything, whether whether
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: it's mean, rude, he doesn't want to hear it, um,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: you know, and he's able to handle it, and I
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: like people that are like that. I became really close
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: with Kelsey on the show as well just before that
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: for that reason, like I could speak my mind and
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: she's not going to sit there and take it in
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: like a rude way, Like I'm not sitting here trying
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: to be malicious and anything that I do, I'm just
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: trying to help them. Um, where did pet help then?
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: I mean if that's if that's what you're saying, like
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: kind of like drew you in and we get it.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: Like I've known Peter since he started this whole thing,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: like he's I've always said, like he's he's a nice guy,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: he's a great guy. There are things that he did
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: there this season not I'm I would have told him
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: as a friend and like don't do that, Like that's crazy,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: Like like as a buddy to buddy, I would have said, like, hey,
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: that wasn't smart, Not that you were like ruining anybody's life,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: just like not smart? What what like what were the
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: things that you saw in him that you're like I
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: want to help And why would you want to help him?
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: I've always said to him too, like I'm always willing
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: to help if I see, I would rather hang out
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: with someone who has absolutely nothing. They could be like
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: a bum on the streets, but if they have a
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: good heart, I would rather help that person than like
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: a pompous pole who you know has everything and has
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: to tell you how much he has. And with him,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: I just saw he has such a good heart, and
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: I saw that he was getting manipulated every which way,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: and it just like kind of piste me off. And um, again,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: I wasn't the best contestant for the show, and I
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: think everyone knows that, but even with him on the show,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: I would see him getting manipulated, and I just want
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: to be like, can you stop, like make your own decision,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: like stop, um, even in terms with him and him
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: and my relationship on the show, you know, the first
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: couple the first couple of weeks, I saw him like,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: look at me differently compared to when we got on
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: our one on one, And I could tell a hundred
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: percent that like producers were in his head because on
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: the one on one nothing happened between us, but he
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: had this like demeanor towards me that was like so
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: piste off. And I was looking at him like, what
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: the hell were you told because you know what, nothing
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: happen here for you to have this, to have this attitude.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: And so right then and there, I knew something was
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: like going on behind the scenes, and I was like,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: this is bullshit. So on our one on one which
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: no one really saw, no one really saw, was um,
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: I just called it out. I looked at him and
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: I said, can I just speak freely? And he was like,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: go ahead. And I was like, hey, Peter, they don't
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: let me see you. They locked me up in a
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: closet for three hours last week and they won't let
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: me see you. I said, you clearly know they pushed
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: some people for and they don't push others forward. And
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: I was like, you've been in my position before. What
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: do you want me to do? Um? But no, it's
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: just I saw him like things were getting in his
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: head that he wasn't able to make his own decision,
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: and it just kind of piste me off. And I
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: really don't know, because he asked me all the time,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: he was like, why do you even help me? I said,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: I really don't know. But at the end of the day,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: he has a great heart and I see that, and
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: I think that's something that I was just like here, look,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: I see this. I see that you take it for
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: what it is. Peter, you mentioned earlier that you think
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: that maybe you and Hannah and didn't challenge you enough
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: in your relationship. Do you feel like you found your
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: challenger just here? Oh my god, I'm nice to short
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: short answer. Yeah, No, it is very grateful for her
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: throughout all this and yeah, and all the patients that
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: she's Well, it's interesting between you guys and what seems
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: to be going down between Hannah By and Tyler. We
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: have a couple of couples to be on or not couple.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: Sorry not to label it, but we have a couple
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: of people feeling things out that will be interesting, um
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: to see what happens given the amount of alone together
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: in this time you guys will be having Kelly, thank
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: you for jumping on. It's been fun for us to
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: follow the stories. I know it's been crazy. I know
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: you know there's a thousand different opinions, but thanks for
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: coming on the podcast, thanks for talking to us, and
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: thanks for looking at for this guy. Um um keep
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: doing your isolations saying uh, Peter, be before Ashley has
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: a little fun with here. I want to just take
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: a second and talk to you, um and ask you
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: one kind of open ended question. We always like to
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: give our guest the opportunity on the in depth episode
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: to kind of speak your truth to everybody listening. Um.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: Some people come to the almost in Depth podcast Uh
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: in kind of a hard place. Uh maybe uh, just
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: a dark place. Some people come here just to share
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: who they what they're doing, and how happy they are. UM.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: I would love for you to explain kind of again
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: where you're at, uh, and then where do you want
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: this to go? Like what now are you hopeful for?
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: Where are you finding hope today? Where do you hope
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: this whole experience takes you? Where do you hope your
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: time with Kelly takes you? And good people? I mean,
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: I know Kelly isn't the only one you're spending time
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: with right now? Like where do you hope this this
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: time of kind of being an isolation goes? Uh? This
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: is a minute, two minutes however long you need to
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: just speak to our listeners on who Peter Webber is,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: Where do you want to go and how are you doing? Yeah?
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: I I so Peter Webber. Um, has you know I've
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: experienced just so much in this last year. Um, that
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take with me, yeah, for the rest of
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: my life. And um, you know, just every every relationship
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: that I that I had on this show you know
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: obviously worked or didn't work. Um, just growing from that
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: and learning to you know, take time and like not
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: rushing to anything like I've done just so many times
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: in the past, to truly just like, uh, you know,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: do do stuff for me and like not not be
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: so much of um someone that's just trying to please someone,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: and just uh and not put my foot down, like
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: just put myself forward a little bit more. Um. That's
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: one of the biggest things. If I want to do
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: the show over again, I would have done. And after
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: the show that I'm one. That's that's me now going forward. Um,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: I you know, throughout all this like isolation right now,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: and like everyone has so much time to kind of
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: just process it and just reflect on everything about your life. Um.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm looking forward to the future now that
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: more than I ever have, and I think all of
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: us are. And like one of the beautiful things about
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: this isolation is no one's going to take anything for
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: In my opinion, no one that takes anything for granted.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: After this is done. We're released. We're free to do whatever,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: like go out and just do what you need to
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: do and just hopefully use this time to be like
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: focusing on yourself, focusing on relationships that you know with
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: the people closest to you, and just become a better
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: person and just not take anything for granted and regards.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: Like with Kelly, Um, you know, who knows like what
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: this turns into right now, I just know that I
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: I love the time that I spend with her, and
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: for whatever weird, crazy reason, we are in each other's
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: lives right now, and it's weird. I know it's it's
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: insanely serendipitous. But um, you know, I'm just excited and
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: like I'm I'm in a really good spot now and
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: I'm so happy that I can say that because you know,
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: even a couple of weeks ago, I wasn't there. But
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: I just feel like such a stronger person, such a
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: more confident person, someone that knows what they want, um
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: and how to go about that, and I just I
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: just I just I'm grateful for that. That's what a
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: good partner does. Man. So I was going to say,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: that's what a good part does, So okay, Uh, final too,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: to just clean up that some of that and make
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: help with makes sense. Or are you spending time in
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: Chicago right now for you or just because it was
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: serendipitous and you got locked down there? Are you doing
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: this for yourself? Uh? Honestly, it's both. Like I I'm
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: enjoying my time, so I don't want to leave, um
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: except for when I have to go to work. Um.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: But again also just because you know, not just getting
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: given anything hopefully my parents, um going back home there
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: when I do fly Uh, but yeah, I'm not having
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: a good time. And then uh, final two things here.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: One is for both of you just to clear cleared
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: up because I do think one of the hardest parts
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: has been as Kelly said, like sometimes it's like we
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: just need like the full truth to get out there,
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: yes or no, Like we need to fully understand is
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: there a crush going on here? Like is there a
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: crushing going happening between both of you? Kelly, you can
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: answer that as well. Yeah, definitely crushing on her for sure.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: So that means that Nick vile Kelly is not like
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: in the picture. I don't know what happened with that. Okay.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: Nick wanted me to post it, and I was like
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: skeptical because I was like, why is my post that?
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: And now he's out to be like, oh what did
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: he say that I was cryptic, that I was cryptic.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not cryptic. Why do I want
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: rumors being spread them? But yeah, but Nick's been supportive
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: of all this, so it's funny though. That's hey, we
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: get it, we get it. Hey, Ashley, sorry about that,
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: Kelly Peter, thank you. Now Ashley's gonna have fun with you. Um,
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: this has been this has been a blast, actually taken away.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: I have questions for you guys who are currently quarantined
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: and crushing on each other. Um, what have you spent
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: time binging on TV? Oh my god, so we've been
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: we finally finished it, but Tiger King. But we we
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: are two people that we just had a d D
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: to like the like Ultimate Extreme, and so it took
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: us And I told him like seven or eight episodes,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: but it took us probably like a week of like
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: trying to watch it. Same here, same here. Jared and
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: I weren't like that impressed people. It wouldn't be that
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: big of a show if people weren't quarantined. Right now,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty shocking. It's pretty crazy. And
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: then people keep telling me that I looked like the
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: freaking guy as the travesty, not not the husband, the
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: former husband. Okay, Um, any good movies you've watched together?
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: Since we stuck at watching it like we were doing
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: puzzles for a bit, We've been doing We've been doing
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: a lot of dances. We have a lot of dances
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: to release. You just gotta work. What's your favorite food
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: to deliver together? There's a lot um. So, yeah, Chicago
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: is known for the beef sandwiches, and so I used
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: to live in Chicago for you know, when I was
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: really little, and there's a really great beef place here
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: called Mr Beef, but Kelly introduced me to a new
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: one called Portillo's. So honestly, I probably fifteen pounds since
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: I've been here and get that almost every day. Actually,
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: it's so bad, Like I thought I was gonna lose
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: weight and quarantine because I was doing an amazing job
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: at intermitted fasting. I was like going sixteen plus hours
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: without eating and now but like, but the meals have
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: been so heavy, so cheesy, that's hilarious. Um, Okay, is
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: Chicago now on the map for a place that you'd
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: move once you officially move out of your parents is Chicago. Um. Honestly,
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: I I I've always thought New York or l a um,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: but I don't know who knows. I Chicago is kind
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: of similar in New York. Um, I don't know. We'll see.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: So you guys have really enjoyed tick talking and crushing
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: on each other. What is the pet peeve that you
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: guys have both discovered about each other since being quarantined?
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: The pet whenever we go to Portillos? What are saying
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: we go to Portillo when we pick it up? Oh,
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: so Kelly is she's got a weird pet peeve that
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: she can't have hot anything hot on her lap. And
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: so we do a lot of door dashing, door dashing.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: But when we do decide to try to get out,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: we'll go in the car and like I always like
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: try to keep it on her lap. It's like kind
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: of picks her off. But that's uh, yeah, that's Kelly's
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: pet peeve. What's mine? How do I annoy you? Oh? God,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: I started, I started. I just got a cameo and
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: it's so much fun and like I'm like constantly going
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: around just like to it. I'm just having the absolute
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: time in my life, and she keeps looking at me
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: just oh, I did the one yesterday. It was kind
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: of embarrassing. Then you like caught remember, Oh my god,
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: I think there was someone sent a cameo into him
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: that was just like to an ex girlfriend or something
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: that was super rude, and it was like essentially saying,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: how is your sugar daddy like status doing? But I
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: took it totally seriously and read it completely serious, and
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: then your ass off after I finished, Like, you're not
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: sending that right, I'm like, what do you mean, I'm not.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: It was hilarious and she's like, that's like a complete
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: franking joke, scrude. You don't want to be affiliated with that.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: Do not do that. And he was like, what are
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: you talking about? And I was like, oh, Kelly with
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: the brains killing with the bread right now, he's an
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: attorney guy. She's really smart's so quick. I'm just a violet.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: My last question is a fun one. Right now, if
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: there was one girl that you could have taken further
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: along in the competition than you did, who would be
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: come on, yus? It's this chop job, right here's amazing. Alright, guys,
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: thank you, You're so wonderful because we're great. This was awesome.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: I wish I was actually kind of hoping that last
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: question you just throw one back at her and pick
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: somebody else just for fun. But hey, uh, hey uh, Peter,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: it's been awesome chatting with you. Um, thanks for sharing
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: everything with us. I know we kept you over, but
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: I I feel like it was worth it. Ashley, UH,
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: and I were very excited to talk to you. Kelly.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on uh and talking with us both.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: We do this little thing at the end of every
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: episode and we're just gonna ask you to follow along
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: with us here because we're all on this together. UM,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: so just follow our lead, Okay. On this week's in
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: depth episode, Ashley and I get to talk with Peter
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: Weber uh and then at the very end, Kelly, it
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  Speaker 1: was an awesome podcast, uh, one of a lot of complexity.
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  Speaker 1: I hope our listeners take a little time to process
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  Speaker 1: kind of through Peter's emotions and the journey that he's
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  Speaker 1: been on and how he's gotten to this point. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: he's made mistakes, Yes he's done some things. As Kelly
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  Speaker 1: mentioned that, we just want to shake him and say
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  Speaker 1: you can be better, but haven't we all? Um? And
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  Speaker 1: and the truth is he shared this whole thing with us,
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  Speaker 1: and we got to be grateful for that. Uh. We
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  Speaker 1: wish Peter the best. We appreciate his time. Uh with that,
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  Speaker 1: I've been been, I've been Ashley Ivan, Peter, Ivan, Kelly Later, guys. Hey,
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