Latest / Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation / Ship It Nation PGA Launch | January 2, 2024
Transcript
- 0:05Ball system's gone clear the left. What's up every one? Tyler Tamberlin here
- 0:38aka Totag and Tambo. The favorite, my favorite season, the golf season
- 0:42is back. The favorite season of the year for many out there I know
- 0:45is the PGA DFS season, and it's our first ever full PGA season here
- 0:50at the Nation. Ship At Nations started in May of two thousand and twenty
- 0:54three, I should say May fifteenth last year, so we got a little
- 0:57bit of the golf action in. We're gonna go through all that on today's
- 1:00show. I know many here, I'm already seating in the chat. We
- 1:02don't when I'm not here to talk about Scotti Scheffler's putter. Today, we're
- 1:04going to talk to you guys all things ship a Nation, PGA, lots
- 1:08of talk out there in the streets on social media, people talking about competitors,
- 1:14pricing and things that are going on. We're gonna get to all of
- 1:15our offerings, the content, the shows, everything else. If you guys
- 1:19want breakdowns on the sentry, I recorded a season preview and century podcast with
- 1:23my guy Kenny Kim the Fantasy Golf Degenerates sponsored by ship It Nation. You
- 1:27guys can go check that out right now. It's on the Mao Media Network
- 1:30as well as on all the podcast feeds. Shut up to our guy,
- 1:33partner in crime, Degenerate seventy five doing a lot of great content. He
- 1:36was on the Mayo Show already, the one that I'll be on usually in
- 1:38studio starting next week and beyond on Wednesdays. He did the show with Mayo
- 1:42this week getting pumped up for the century, and then we'll always put you
- 1:46towards his Wednesday evening show. I think it's the best in the industry.
- 1:49You're gonna be able to get all kinds of information there related to whether final
- 1:53roster construction, all of that. But we want to break down, bring
- 1:56my guy hoop in. We want to break down the entire PGA season.
- 2:00We're going to have for you guys here over at Shipping Nation. Lots of
- 2:01stuff out there in the market. Hoopster, I'll bring you in man cite
- 2:05it for PGA. Excited for everything we're about to talk about today. I
- 2:07think it's going to be some good stuff. Yeah. So, I mean,
- 2:09it seems like we've been at this for a lot longer than like six
- 2:14seven months. You know, is May when we launched. We missed the
- 2:15beginning part of the PGA season last year. I mean, our PGA product
- 2:20was the first product that we started working on here at Ship and Nation.
- 2:23Now this is going to be, you know, an entire season of improvements.
- 2:29Obviously we've made some additions. We've made some improvements to our product as
- 2:32well, so we're going to get the full season here, So very very
- 2:36excited. If you haven't done so, if you haven't heard about it,
- 2:38myself, Tamball recorded a two hour education course that you will get access to
- 2:44and we'll talk about that as well, but two hours covering all the topics
- 2:46of PGA DFS. And you know, that's one of those things where you
- 2:51know, people in this industry talk about doing Oh you know, I want
- 2:54to help people get better. We're going to teach them. We're going to
- 2:57have courses and that's you know, one thing that we've always said from the
- 3:00beginning, we're not just going to talk about things. We're going to back
- 3:04it up. And then that's one area, assuming you're pulling it up here,
- 3:07but that's one area where we have gone ahead and just backed it up.
- 3:09So that's like the starting point for this PGA season. Getting on listening
- 3:14to the education course segmented by topic, you can go through if you only
- 3:16want to learn about you know, satellites and you know roster construting, whatever
- 3:22you want to learn about, you can hit those spots. So I'm very
- 3:23excited obviously for our PGA product. You know, we're going to go through
- 3:27and kind of talk talk to you guys about what it entails, what you'll
- 3:31have access to and weekly plan. And one thing that we're very very you
- 3:37know, it's very high on our list in terms of priorities, is getting
- 3:39our content out nice and early on time, so you have the ability to
- 3:43go in there start building your team. You can come into our discord community,
- 3:46which is I think the most friendly discord community in the industry. Basically
- 3:52no issues, everyone's friendly, helpful, get in there, talk through it.
- 3:55A lot of good nuggets in there, not only from our team but
- 4:00also from our members as well. So very excited to get this started.
- 4:04And we have a few surprises here on deck for everyone that's tuning in.
- 4:09Yeah, we got some giveaways as well. We just posted our first giveaway.
- 4:12It's for members only, the first one. It's in our discord already,
- 4:14but if you join and become a member after watching the show, don't
- 4:16do anything just yet, but if you join and become a member, you'll
- 4:19be able to join that free role this week as well. It's going to
- 4:21be for the two hundred dollars entry to the mail one and done eighty thousand
- 4:26dollars up top. Very balanced payout structure over at Fantasy Golf Championship, So
- 4:30more on that later on. We'll also be giving one away to somebody here
- 4:32today. We'll be giving away some memberships on this show, so there's lots
- 4:35of actually going to try and keep it under an hour, like we always
- 4:39do, going through everything. If you're not watching this live, you're watching
- 4:41it on playback. If you want to fast forward to the end, you
- 4:43can, but you'll miss a bunch of what we're offering here and what we're
- 4:46going to go through and show you. But like Hoops said off the top,
- 4:47that course, as we always talk about, you do get included with
- 4:51any membership, So right now we recorded the course. When you get any
- 4:55membership again, hang off on that, but when you do, you will
- 4:58get it. We go through the processroster construction, live finals, and qualifiers.
- 5:01It's different in the PGA streets, so we'll go through that in a
- 5:03second showdown. Tons of money to be made in the showdown streets, but
- 5:08just to show it off here and then of course our member Q and A.
- 5:10We also will have a Q and A at the end of the show.
- 5:13I'll try and get some questions throughout if you guys have them about our
- 5:15offerings. But on the site it's pretty straightforward if you go to shop education.
- 5:19We've already done courses four hours actually for NFL. People had a ton
- 5:23of success with that one. NBA is full swing right now. Our projections
- 5:27have been top notch. Had somebody else win thirty k the other night in
- 5:30the big main there. It's been all it's been all season long and so
- 5:32far in NBA. And then we just recorded this one for PGA and it
- 5:35covers all kinds of different topics. It's free to go to the site and
- 5:39check this out. People struggle, I know, with roster construction, so
- 5:43we cover that. The live finals are quite different for PGA. It's a
- 5:46three round playdown qualifier. There's huge there's eleven qualifiers this week. Eleven of
- 5:50the three hundred seats will be won this week alone, just for the century
- 5:55and it's totally different. And if you want to know first about even playing
- 5:58the satellites and being able to get into these where people like myself others have
- 6:01had a lot of success. Tons of our members have had success in this
- 6:04format. Our guy Todd is in the discord. He actually won the Fantasy
- 6:08Golf World Championship last season. Lots of good stuff there, but then it's
- 6:12about if you get in and can go from there. Talk about that,
- 6:15and then of course, like I mentioned the showdown stuff, there's just a
- 6:17ton but hoop, I'm gonna kick it back to you like this is the
- 6:20biggest thing, right, I'll start with this and then I'll kick it back
- 6:23to you. Is youet a lot of people talking about this this past week
- 6:28on Twitter and everything out there about the PGADFS stuff, and not as much
- 6:31as excitement about it. And it's expensive to get in and get it on
- 6:34the action for one sport, but people love it. It's a seasonal sport.
- 6:38I started off even back in the day when I was working full time
- 6:41Monday to Friday, some Saturdays in sales all that stuff, I would still
- 6:45be playing NFL dfs and PGA dfs and the reason I loved the crossover of
- 6:49the two is because to me, I called them like weekly sports. I
- 6:53know, golf with the showdown streets has got a little bit more busy,
- 6:56but you can still do it at night. You get home, see the
- 6:58kids, the family, whatever it might be. Your time is limited,
- 7:00you can still register for some showdown contests the next day and be able to
- 7:03hop in there. So I think, you know, that's the biggest thing
- 7:06for me is you have you know, get the information on Monday, Tuesday,
- 7:10Wednesday at your convenience, get the lineups in Wednesday evening later on,
- 7:15be ready to go for Thursday when it locks. Get a ton of sweat
- 7:17equity. You get the late withdraw sweat equity. Hopefully we don't have many
- 7:20of those this season, but it's there. Then you get the Friday cut
- 7:24sweat. Then hopefully you get the sweat for Sunday. If you got something
- 7:28going on, you get the ownership sweat. You want to know what everybody's
- 7:30owned on that it's just a fun sport to play. But what people keep
- 7:34saying is, obviously you know a lot of these sites are as included.
- 7:36We've made a promise to keep prices extremely low, but you get all the
- 7:41sports you get NFL, we have, NBA, we just talked about PGA.
- 7:44We'll get into our offering soon. MMA. We brought on just incredible
- 7:47stuff with MMA, NHL's in full swing, Naids in the team there,
- 7:50with Boomers, projection, just doing a ton. MLB was awesome when we
- 7:55had it going on. And then if we had any more sports, which
- 7:58spoiler alert, we might soon that there is going to be other sports that
- 8:01you get that come with the all access. But a lot of people said,
- 8:03you know, Tambo, I followed you from golf or I always wanted
- 8:07yours and hoop stuff for golf, and that's all I wanted. So I'll
- 8:11kick it to you who let you deliver some of the conversation around this on
- 8:15how we want to go about handling things because we did start after the golf
- 8:18season was in full swing. We weren't open until May. Obviously, golf
- 8:22gets going in January right now, and some of the biggest stuff pops up,
- 8:26you know, waste management, Phoenix open. More on that later,
- 8:28but first week of February, right right as the Super Bowl's going on.
- 8:31So what's your take on that, Your thoughts and then you could sort of
- 8:33intro it to where we're going here today. Yeah, So PGA DFS first
- 8:39off is it's a lot of fun, and you know, we talked about
- 8:41it a lot in the education course and you kind of lay it out there
- 8:43where you know, you get the pricing on Monday, you can kind of
- 8:46digest a lot of the content Tuesday Wednesdays, start building your teams. Then
- 8:50the goal is obviously to have that sweat going into Sunday, because it's a
- 8:54good feeling to wake up Sunday morning. Now you have some teams live,
- 8:58you can sit back. Hopefully the coverage is good. Sometimes it's you know,
- 9:01hit or miss in terms of the PGA coverage on TV, but you
- 9:05sit back and you get the sweat, then you can do it all over
- 9:07starting on Monday. In that education course, we talked about that the process,
- 9:11like building a process, how important it is to build a process,
- 9:15what some different processes look like, what people do, what you and I
- 9:18do for our process just a fun, fun sport. So in terms of
- 9:22what we're offering here, you know, we've always made a commitment at Shipping
- 9:28Nation to keep our content cheap and affordable for people. We want people to
- 9:33be able to use our content but not sacrifice the amount of money that they're
- 9:39able to play contests with on DraftKings or FanDuel, whatever site you're playing on.
- 9:43We don't want to take your money so you can't play as much and
- 9:48lower your ability to win. I mean, if you're paying a premium for
- 9:52PGA content, big big buck, because some of the stuff is like way
- 9:56out there. I mean some of the price tags on this content, you're
- 9:58talking six to seven hundred dollars for what I think would be like a skin
- 10:03amount of content just projections, which projections are just one piece of the pie,
- 10:07which we'll get to you later. I mean, there's a lot more
- 10:11that goes into PGA dfs than just projections. Variants in PGA is through the
- 10:16roof. So if you just go in and just look at projections, you're
- 10:18probably going to get your ass kicked all season long. To be honest with
- 10:22you, even using our projections, I'll be honest with you. Even if
- 10:24you're coming in you're saying I just want their projections, I don't want any
- 10:26of the other content, You'll probably get your ass kicked all season. So
- 10:31that's just one part of the overall piece. But again going back to the
- 10:33pricing on things, we want to make it cheap. One thing we've always
- 10:37said with all our sports, you pay less for content, you're able to
- 10:41play more DFS contests, which gives you the ability to potentially win more money.
- 10:50Doesn't matter what we add on, doesn't matter the sports, it doesn't
- 10:52matter the people, which you know, we have a very lean team over
- 10:56here, and we're going to remain with a lean team move for We're keeping
- 10:58our prices low, industry low, are all in price cheapest in the industry.
- 11:03We're going to talk about our PGA pricing. It's going to be the
- 11:07cheapest in the industry, and it gives you a chance to get some content
- 11:09because content is important in this industry. We've always said it. It's very
- 11:13important. Like there's so much information out there, Like you need to have
- 11:16a spot that you trust, right, you have to have a spot that
- 11:20you trust to get content. We give our members and future members the ability
- 11:26to get an encompassing product for an industry low price tag. And that's a
- 11:31commitment we've made to ourselves, Me and Tamba ourselves and made that commitment.
- 11:35You know, no matter what if I come in tomorrow and say, Tampa,
- 11:39we got to raise prices fifteen percent. He's going to look at me
- 11:41and say, who, get the hell out of here. If he comes
- 11:43to me and says, hey, we've got to raise our prices x percent
- 11:46of mist say Tambo, get the hell out of here, it's not happening.
- 11:48So very excited to kind of release our plans for our PGA packages,
- 11:54content and all that. But man, be careful out there. Don't just
- 11:58blindly say I'm going with the price tag because these price tags are getting way
- 12:01way way up there, man, and it's you know, a couple people
- 12:05in chat it used the term price gouging. It's it's expensive. Yeah.
- 12:11So Hooster kind of popped the bubble without actually popping it completely. So I'll
- 12:15finish the job for him. Because when we started, this was the key
- 12:18we have, same as we do right now. If you go to our
- 12:20site right now, there is weekly, monthly, there is six months,
- 12:24and there is annual. It includes every sport that we cover and any that
- 12:28we add. So if we add NASCAR, you will get NASCAR included in
- 12:31this. For the projections, the ownership, any of the tools, rankings,
- 12:35Core reports things like that that we bring over Hoop without further ado.
- 12:39Obviously drop the hammer here on you guys now when you go to our site
- 12:43and we're gonna we didn't have this before, but we said we would try
- 12:46it. PGA makes a whole lot of sense. As ck Fly says here,
- 12:50it's actually eight months. It starts this week, the first week of
- 12:52January, and it does not end until September first, which is the end
- 12:56of the FedEx Cup playoffs. Again, how you want to go about it,
- 12:58that's fine, but not many people have this. There was threads and
- 13:01polls and things out in the industry last week of a pricing and they're saying,
- 13:05yeah, ship, it would be pretty good if you got the entire
- 13:07season for five ninety nine and you got everything, But what if you just
- 13:11wanted PGA And so that was our number one thought. So I'll pull it
- 13:16up here Hoop, we'll release it off the top and then talk through some
- 13:20of this, but we are going to offer a PGA only product. We'll
- 13:24get through all the stuff. We wanted to be very careful about this.
- 13:26We know some people got in at certain prices out of the gate. But
- 13:30if you guys can see it here quickly. Just to cover that up.
- 13:33There is some crossed out prices. We'll go through it in a second.
- 13:35I'm gonna break it down. You can ask questions in the chat if you
- 13:37have them. We are going to do this the exact same way we did
- 13:41the original launch of the site. This is going to be for one week.
- 13:46This original pricing of the monthly and the season are gonna be for the
- 13:50first week like our Founding Family deal. And the reason is somebody who got
- 13:54the Founding Family pricing at forty nine dollars for the month when we first launched.
- 13:56It's no secret. You can go back and watch the video when this
- 14:00is thirty nine for just PGA. It still smashes the industry. There's people
- 14:03charging thirty nine dollars a week for PGA content. Right now, We're gonna
- 14:09be thirty nine dollars a month, and we'll always have a code of ten
- 14:11percent off that you can get between any of our partners that you'll be able
- 14:15to use more on that in a second, don't do anything yet. So
- 14:18just to note this upfront, thirty four dollars a month, one ninety nine
- 14:24for the entire eight month season. It works out to five dollars per event.
- 14:28If you just call it the forty events that this is again to thirty
- 14:31nine is crossed out. So remember this. When we put up the code
- 14:35in a second and you want to go sign up, you are gonna get
- 14:39ten percent off. So we're actually gonna leave it at one seventy nine to
- 14:43get in for the entire season. There are places out there right now charging
- 14:46two ninety nine, three fifty five ninety nine. Whenever they want to charge.
- 14:52I don't go at them as hard because it's whatever. It's to their
- 14:54own right to charge whatever they want. But I will say this, from
- 14:58our entire all access product, from our entire NFL season that you guys saw,
- 15:03there was no sacrifice in the quality. And I'm biased, but I
- 15:05would think that ours is better because we saw the results every single week.
- 15:09You were seeing threads of not just Hoop myself and the rest of our team
- 15:13winning, you were seeing all kinds of members and why the community grew as
- 15:16much as it did. And I'll tell you what, even those that didn't
- 15:20win in PGA, they first of all did not pay near the prices they
- 15:24would have paid at other places and could have still lost anyway. But they
- 15:26picked up a ton of information between the education courses the day to day in
- 15:31the discord of being able to learn from others that are working on getting better.
- 15:35It will apply at some point. It's just like anything else. You
- 15:37have to pay your dues and then your time comes. It's no guarantee.
- 15:41Nobody in the industry can guarantee you that. But that's also why you should
- 15:43not be paying these prices. Some are charging, like you said, five
- 15:48ninety nine, that's their right. I think other sites have good stuff.
- 15:50I don't talk bad about my competitors. I talk good about my stuff and
- 15:54Hoop stuff and our stuff to be able to help you guys out. But
- 15:56I will say this pricing is set up in a way to get you the
- 16:00best deal possible. So very clear, and then I'll kick it the hoop
- 16:03On pricing fourteen dollars for the week, you can get all access for twenty
- 16:07four dollars a week. I still think you should do that, but I
- 16:11recognize some people only have the only need the coverage for PGA. It's a
- 16:15fair price. We know that thirty four dollars for the month, you can
- 16:19get our all access for sixty nine dollars a month. It's about half the
- 16:23price and it's for one, but it's an eight month sport. I mean,
- 16:26this is going on. You're paying a month. You could come in
- 16:29at the at the Players Championship and get the Players, the Masters and the
- 16:33events in between. You could come in at the PGA Championship and get three
- 16:37more events in between, and the US Open, two majors. But we're
- 16:41suggesting you sign up now. Beat the heat, get out there and beat
- 16:45the rush. Get the best pricing possible. You will get ten percent off
- 16:48the thirty four dollars or ten percent off the one ninety nine, nothing off
- 16:52the weekly. Weekly still does not come with discord. This is a good
- 16:56question, Hoop, and then I'm gonna kick it to you. We have
- 16:59it set up so that when you sign up for PGA only, you get
- 17:03all the PGA channels, which is the PGA Access channel, but you get
- 17:06the general the announcements, the notifications, all of that. But you do
- 17:10get the PGA only channel. You're still in the discord as long as you
- 17:12go for the monthly or the season long package. One seventy nine works out
- 17:18to four dollars and fifty cents per event. If you sign up for this
- 17:22next week after the Sony locks and these prices jump to thirty nine and two
- 17:26thirty nine, you still won't get gouged. It's still way cheaper than the
- 17:30rest of the industry. You'll still be able to get twenty four dollars off
- 17:34the season long package and get it for cheap. You just won't be able
- 17:37to get it for one seventy nine anymore. You won't be able to get
- 17:41it for thirty dollars for your first payment off and then renew at thirty four.
- 17:45It'll be thirty nine dollars with ten percent off and then renew at thirty
- 17:48nine. So who talked a lot there? But I want to be clear.
- 17:51If you guys have questions, throw them in the chat. But I
- 17:53like Jack's comment, our boy, Jack, no crap here, genuine,
- 17:56extremely helpful. This is how we've always said it would be. This is
- 18:00how we did our original launch. There's nobody just hopping in the ring making
- 18:03this stuff up. This is how it's been from day one, and our
- 18:06reputations and credibility from before here should stand on their own. I think,
- 18:10so, Hoop, I'll kick it to you on this pricing. We spent
- 18:11a lot of time making sure of this that our original members would still be
- 18:17in good shape on their original pricing, covering everything, and then now anybody
- 18:21who wants to hop in the ring for just PGA can do so. If
- 18:25you're on sixty nine dollars a month for NFL and you're done with us,
- 18:27you can now just move over to a PGA package if that's really all you
- 18:32were in for. There's lots of ways that you can go about it,
- 18:33but we've got you covered for all of them who kick it over to you.
- 18:37My friend. Yeah, I think it's a really good comment from Jack
- 18:38because it's like, you know, the conversations that you and I have behind
- 18:42closed doors. I mean, there's no crap here. This isn't us,
- 18:45you know, you know, trying to sell you on some bullshit product or
- 18:49pricing. I mean this is the cheapest. I mean, this is the
- 18:52bare minimum price. Like there's just no doubt about it. Like this is
- 18:57super super cheap. Yeah, we could have charged a hell of a lot
- 19:00more money. We could come in and say it's now twenty two dollars for
- 19:04the weekly and forty eight for the monthly, in two seventy for the season
- 19:10long we'd probably make more money. We honestly would probably make more money and
- 19:14get very similar number of people signing up. To be honest with you,
- 19:15we've looked at all the numbers. We'd be able to sell this crap.
- 19:18If you heard Tambaa on shows, he could come and sell sell you anything
- 19:22you want. But that's not what we're about. This is pricing, where
- 19:26again you're paying less for content and you're able to play more DFS contests,
- 19:33which is what we want. We're passionate about PGA. We have all the
- 19:37stuff that the other sites have. We have it all. We're going to
- 19:40go through everything that we have other sites. You know, you got to
- 19:42have these projections. You got to have this guy. You got to listen
- 19:45to this one guy talking about PGA, and then the other eight guys are
- 19:48going to give you their plays and very direct, easy to digest content.
- 19:53You know who you're getting it from. You know what you're getting each week,
- 19:56week in, week out. You know what you're getting from cheapest all
- 20:00in price in the industry. I mean, there's really just nothing else to
- 20:03be said about it. I mean, these prices speak for themselves, and
- 20:06we're gonna go through and show you guys, you know everything that this does
- 20:10entail. So I mean, if you are in the market for PGA DFS
- 20:14content and you're looking for reliable, trusted people, I just don't know how
- 20:18you find anything better than this. I'll just leave it at that. Yeah,
- 20:22and that's more excited about it. Everyone joking about my sales and stuff
- 20:26like that sell me that pen the ketchup pops. I mean, you guys
- 20:27have watched me, many of you out there have watched me for years on
- 20:30all these things. My passion is probably unmatched when it comes to this stuff.
- 20:33I get very much. I'm saying, we could double these prices.
- 20:36You'll be able to go on a show and you could sell it and we'd
- 20:37probably end up with the same number of people. If you were that sort
- 20:41of person, right, if you're that sort of person, you could make
- 20:42it happen. It's honestly, it's better that just to do it this way.
- 20:45We always have talked about the community. It's been phenomenal the whole way.
- 20:48Everyone's gonna start talking about that now across the industry, and I understand
- 20:51it. But the bottom line is this, even if you think our stuff
- 20:53sucks and you're like Oh, they're undercutting the market, but they don't have
- 20:56the best stuff. Well go figure it out. Is there stuff four times
- 21:00or three times better than ours because the pricing is that much more so I
- 21:03think it's the best stuff. I'm biased. The big thing I want to
- 21:06talk about, though, quickly who before we get to the actual stuff we
- 21:08cover, is I guess it'll lead into kind of what you wanted to mention,
- 21:11Like the projection stuff. I'm very big on projections across all sports and
- 21:15look at them for everything, way bigger on NFL, NBA, more than
- 21:19most sports, NHL. I think they're really handy. But other stuff,
- 21:22it's like, for example, our MMA team has been incredible. Title is
- 21:26the man Marley, all the guys helping out you, Hebrew, the rest
- 21:30of the guys in the chat, the discord is awesome. We got the
- 21:33best team when it comes to that. But I think the game theory matters.
- 21:36Like I pick up things when I'm in the MMA slate plan or the
- 21:38fight ranking and stuff like that, and I'm picking things up that our team
- 21:41is putting. That's our differentiator. Now. Our first differentiator is very obvious.
- 21:45It's price. We don't charge you near what the industry charges you for
- 21:48that. We're not acquiring talent and bringing people in. We're acquiring actual value
- 21:53and bringing it and returning it back to you. We say less is more.
- 21:56I think our team is very strong as is. We have the best
- 22:00players in the industry. We just don't have hundreds of them or bring it
- 22:03in a bunch of them. We say it the best when we talk about
- 22:06the less you pay the more you play, the less you can put into
- 22:08content. But you're not sacrificing anything. You're still getting the best stuff out
- 22:11there. You're able to get it if you don't think it's the best.
- 22:15It's one quarter the price in most cases, So do your thoughts on that.
- 22:18But just to bring it in again. When you set it up this
- 22:21way and get everything that we have there in all one spot, you're able
- 22:23to have everything that you need with projections, the benefit is I think our
- 22:27other differentiator is bringing in the game theory and the leverage. What's everyone else
- 22:33doing? You guys know, when I do my tidbits threads, if you
- 22:36follow those, I read and look at everything else in the industry. I
- 22:38combine and formulate the thoughts and then I talk about how we can win at
- 22:41DFS, not who this best golfer is at this And we talk about some
- 22:47narratives and some things for the content purposes, but the main focus is always
- 22:51how are we attacking this slate to beat the rest of the industry. That's
- 22:56where projections can come in handy. How do you think we find out who
- 22:57the late steam is when we just our ownership projections? How do you think
- 23:02we find these things out our projections like this guy the rest of the industry's
- 23:04projections like this guy, this guy's getting boosted. Well if this, then
- 23:08that that's what we're actually talking about, not just this guy versus that guy,
- 23:11or why you should play someone. It's a lot of other stuff related
- 23:15around that. So woop, do you want to get into the content now?
- 23:18And we can come back to the pricing and stuff like that. People
- 23:21want to bring up as they go along. I mean, beatle Bain says
- 23:22it here too, helps so much with your process, But building a process
- 23:26is a process in itself. This is what we do in compliment perfectly.
- 23:30I think that's like us putting the courses together and all of that, which
- 23:33were a reminder, it's right down here at the bottom the education course.
- 23:37But the course does come for free when you sign up, So when you
- 23:41join any membership, even if you just join us for the first week and
- 23:45want to take the course go ahead, you actually can do that because it's
- 23:48live on the site and you have full access to it to check it out.
- 23:51So that's just my thoughts on that. Do you have anything else there
- 23:52that you want to add I want to just add on because I've been at
- 23:56this for that just as long as anyone in the industry. In terms of
- 23:59the business side. The playing side fell in love with PGA DFS years ago.
- 24:03I mean, I've been playing it for I don't know since it started
- 24:07on DraftKings. I don't even know when that was, but when DraftKings started
- 24:10offering PGA, I started playing. So if someone knows the data on that,
- 24:12that's when I started playing. I've been playing from that point forward.
- 24:15The one thing about PGA DFS that is very very unique, The variance is
- 24:21very very high. You have to hit on a ton of different angles every
- 24:25single week in terms of what you're looking at, what you're doing with your
- 24:29process. I mean, there's so much that goes in to PGA DFS.
- 24:33I'd say arguably more so than any other sport. You can look at course
- 24:36history, you can look at recent trends, you can look at how a
- 24:38guy's been playing, you can look at recent form. You can look at
- 24:41the courses, you can look at the putting surfaces, you can look at
- 24:45projections, you can look at rankings, you can look at core plays,
- 24:48you can look at whatever the hell you want to look at, and it
- 24:51all can be a piece to that pot. But the one thing that I
- 24:55see so much in this industry people trying to sell you on one piece of
- 25:00that pie. They have this guy doing projections, and the only way you
- 25:03can win at PGA dfs is if you get this guy's projections, because he
- 25:08knows it all. So if that guy knows it all, wouldn't you see
- 25:11his DraftKings or FanDuel name at the top of the leaderboard every single week.
- 25:15Nope, it doesn't happen like that. Projections are one piece of the pie.
- 25:19So when people are charging you an extraordinary amount of money for PGA projections,
- 25:26that is wrong. Here's another example. You always see, well,
- 25:30we brought on this guy. Now, we brought this guy onto our team,
- 25:33and he knows so much about PGA DFS that you need to come follow
- 25:37him because he is going to make you a winner at PGA DFS. Just
- 25:42one guy or a team of people. We're bringing on these this group of
- 25:47people to cover PGA DFS. Now, you have to come to us because
- 25:51these guys know it so well. If that was the case, wouldn't those
- 25:53guys be at the top of the PGA DFS leaderboards every single week, week
- 25:59in out. Simply not the case. PGA DFS a lot of different aspects,
- 26:04a lot of different things that you need to be looking at, a
- 26:07lot of different pieces of content. Yes, projections are important, the team
- 26:12is important, but those are just small pieces of the puzzle. So don't
- 26:17get roped into one of those schemes that we're saying you have to have this
- 26:21and now pay me this price. Not how it works. I've been doing
- 26:23this longer than anyone can tell you. That is the case. So there's
- 26:26no secret sauce to this. There's no secret sauce to PGA DFS. High
- 26:32high variance is involved, no doubt about it. I've seen it. I've
- 26:34been playing it longer than anyone. Have to look at everything, not just
- 26:38one thing. I agree, I also have to say the secret sauce code
- 26:41because people are already paying us one ninety nine in the inbox, which I'm
- 26:45just responding to. Now, we'll get you back the money. We always
- 26:48do. We make sure you get the best deal possible. So for those
- 26:49that already just went and blindly bought it before we even put the code up,
- 26:53thank you. We appreciate you, but make sure we'll respond to you.
- 26:56We'll get you that discount back. But if you want to get in
- 27:00and make sure you use code PGA ten. I was gonna go back and
- 27:03forth we got going on it. Hoop gets passionate about that stuff, and
- 27:06I'm with them. I mean, that's what we're trying to do here.
- 27:07But just to note, make sure to use code PGA ten for the rest
- 27:11going to buy now, because that's gonna be the way you save the money.
- 27:14So those that already bought, we'll get it back to you, but
- 27:15just want to keep that in check before we go on. Hoop, let's
- 27:18talk about shows real quick. We did this, you know, for the
- 27:22rest of the all access stuff. We've never had a premium or paid show.
- 27:26It's not said we couldn't in the future, but just to say it.
- 27:29You know, right now we have all these free shows, so I'll
- 27:33talk about it quickly and then get your thoughts on them, but just to
- 27:34get a breakdown of it. So just so you guys know our show schedule
- 27:37coming up. Fan on Mondays a new show that I'm extremely excited for.
- 27:42Talked about him earlier. Our friend and partner Degenerate seventy five, James is
- 27:47the man. Him and I did a first Look for NFL every Tuesday.
- 27:51We're gonna convert that to Monday for golf, and it's gonna be right around
- 27:55when pricing comes out. We're hoping that DraftKings can stick to some sort of
- 27:57similar setup there. Degenerate seventy five myself will do the DraftKings first look show,
- 28:03reactions, pricing, maybe we put up the betting board, little things
- 28:07like that, keep it interactive with you guys. If you have early questions,
- 28:10all go for that. So we will definitely still have that. That's
- 28:12a free show. The first one is gonna be for the Sony Open on
- 28:15the Degenerate seventy five YouTube channel, and then it's gonna rotate weekly which channel
- 28:19it's on our station, his station, back and forth, we'll always post
- 28:22the links in the discord for members. You'll always be able to see under
- 28:26shows on the site, and that's a good point to say it here.
- 28:30Our next show that we'll have on Mondays is myself and Kenny Kim doing the
- 28:34one many know us from or know me from, especially as the Fantasy Golf
- 28:37degenerates. That podcast will be every Monday that's sponsored by ship It Nation.
- 28:42It will be the same structure as always, always free out on the Male
- 28:47Media Network. Then on Tuesdays, Hoop and myself around three pm Eastern,
- 28:52I think it's gonna be. We're gonna confirm that and get it in there
- 28:53exactly, but I think that's what it's gonna be. We're gonna have the
- 28:56ship It Nation show, or we'll get a lot more information by then,
- 29:00right, we'll have all the stuff on some more early ownership, Our initial
- 29:03projections will be up. So again everyone's all hyped on these secret projections.
- 29:07Our projections are solid, we're excited about them. But I think we would
- 29:10even be able to show that Hoop like on Tuesdays, we could probably bring
- 29:12up the early look, the early ownership and see what's going on. We'll
- 29:15have it up. I know other sites don't drop their stuff till Wednesdays.
- 29:18We will have ours up on Tuesdays, So even if you just want to
- 29:22play around with it, I still suggest waiting till Wednesday evening. As our
- 29:26friend and partner, Degenerate's seventy five likes to say, have you built those
- 29:29yet? You know what's the first mistake people make? Building their lineups too
- 29:32early? Definitely a part of it. We'll direct you there on Wednesday evenings.
- 29:34But on Wednesday mornings I go in studio with Mayo, just like the
- 29:40Friday NFL show where we do a sort of closer to Locke. I mean,
- 29:44it's still the morning so it's not the final stuff, but better ownership
- 29:47update on kind of what people are doing with their lineups. We look at
- 29:49roster construction, breaking it down, trying to get different, what the field
- 29:52is doing and how we can adapt and get different. So that's our show
- 29:56breakdown. Like we said, on Wednesday evenings, we'll direct everybody to the
- 30:00Degenerate seventy five stream where he's breaking down his stuff. As always, maybe
- 30:04some fun stuff there in the future that we can work out, but definitely,
- 30:07you know, an awesome show that you guys want to see who give
- 30:11me your thoughts. No premium show over here required, Right, We've got
- 30:15everything else covered. Yeah, that's kind of why we're doing our main show
- 30:18on Tuesday. We can kind of go through look at, like you said,
- 30:21those projections that early looked at the projections that early look at at some
- 30:25ownership, you know, talk through the guys that were kind of eyeing.
- 30:29And then obviously you know, for me personally, I like to do all
- 30:33my PGA content like Wednesday morning, get everything up nice and early Wednesday morning,
- 30:37start building those teams, and then I always think, man like the
- 30:40Wednesday night early Thursday morning, like when it's on the West coast, A
- 30:44lot of times they don't start until like a what eleven Eastern. That discord
- 30:48time is so valuable Wednesday night Thursday morning and get a lot of little tidbits,
- 30:55you know, I know you do a good job of digging through the
- 30:56industry stuff and finding little pieces of infration. Our members in our discord do
- 31:02as well. So that's very very valuable time and honestly reason why you should
- 31:07you know, look into a monthly over a weekly package so you can be
- 31:11in there in the discord with our community, not only us, but our
- 31:14community, but a lot of sharp people in there, sharp, like minded
- 31:18people, helpful people. It's just such an important aspect kind of goes into
- 31:22the overall process. But yeah, our main show will be on Tuesday,
- 31:26and you know, same place, same time. We start our shows on
- 31:27time. You know what you expect. You know, there's not going to
- 31:30be any big surprises. Oh I thought I was getting Hooping Tamba today I'm
- 31:34getting Joe and John instead. Like that doesn't that doesn't happen over here.
- 31:37So yeah, excited for the for the shows to kick off. Yeah,
- 31:42so we're gonna keep it that way for sure. Let's talk a little bit
- 31:45about the content then hoop. I know it's all listed here, so it's
- 31:47easier to do it this way. I'll show some of it off when we
- 31:49get there, but just starting obviously, our guy Boomer is on top of
- 31:52the projections and ownership, so I'll start there. I had them up here
- 31:56earlier. We'll share it. This is for the century. They already went
- 31:59out up earlier this morning or mid afternoon. I guess tag the channel and
- 32:02let them know. But it'll have a last projection's update. It's simple it's
- 32:07got the golfer, the salary, their projection, the ownership with the first
- 32:10run, the updates all linked to that, and then the point per dollar.
- 32:14If you're just looking for somebody in a range right and you want to
- 32:16say, Okay, who's the guy that I want to have there, you'll
- 32:19be able to get all that coverage and more and then we'll be talking about
- 32:22it in the discord as it goes on throughout the week. So that's going
- 32:25to be your PGA ownership set up there. And then our guy Lee,
- 32:30we brought Lee aldrich Over formerly of fan Share Sports. Really good dude,
- 32:35awesome stuff that he puts out. He had an under the radar DFS article
- 32:38that he used to do. We've changed the name on here to the Value
- 32:42Report and basically puts out his six golfers in the lower end range that you
- 32:46can get after to help build your lineups. He uses what we've converted to
- 32:51the ship at Nation course fit rankings and I'll show you those because they're another
- 32:54piece that comes with the membership PGA only or all access. Like I said,
- 33:00it's still the way to go is if you want to save the most
- 33:01to get more for your money, have all these sports covered. That's the
- 33:05way to and then you during the swing season, you shipped the contest just
- 33:08strictly off the was it the course history report, course history course fit rankings
- 33:14not of course corse fit right? Yeah? Yeah, So do you want
- 33:16to you built the team like with the top five or six out of the
- 33:21top eight guys and ended up shipping. Yeah, I just used the ten
- 33:23and Shawn's here. I mean, there's other people in the chat. I'm
- 33:25sure that again some may watching them playback, but I know Sean was in
- 33:29there. We definitely use I kicked I ship my second King of the Desert
- 33:32seats. Sorry, just stop using them on one of those off weeks.
- 33:36Because this is what Lee does and that's why I was so excited to have
- 33:38his stuff over here. So his course fit rankings are for everybody that qualifies.
- 33:43There is certain pieces that go into it, but it's just a unique
- 33:45tool and a way to find guys that you can build off of and really
- 33:50have some success with. So it's definitely another huge piece. I'm excited to
- 33:53see that for the regular season, just another added tool that you can bring
- 33:57in and then also to just going back who we can just talk about some
- 34:00of the other stuff here. Why do you talk about the tier rankings,
- 34:05the core reports, the player pools, and then I'll talk about the slate
- 34:07plan as well. Yeah, so the tier rankings, you know, with
- 34:10something that I believe we didn't when we first launched. I don't think we
- 34:15had tier rankings, and they're like, you know what, we kind of
- 34:16talked through it and we're like, this is something that we both enjoy doing.
- 34:20It can be very helpful. So basically we break it up into the
- 34:23top tier, middle tier, value tier, and depending on some of the
- 34:28events, you know, you know, change what the pricing standards are for
- 34:30each one. But you know, our two favorite guys up top, two
- 34:35favorite guys in the middle, two favorite value type plays. And the reason
- 34:38I think this can be helpful is if, man, you're going through and
- 34:42you're building out a lot, if you have one spot left and you can't
- 34:44decide, you know who you like in that range, you can kind of
- 34:46go go to the tier rankings and say, oh, Man Hoop and TEMPBA
- 34:51both like Keegan Bradley in this range. You know, I'm going to roll
- 34:53with them this week, and you know you could build out there are a
- 34:57lot of weeks where you could build out a team. I know you and
- 34:59I try to it each week, like build out a team from the tier
- 35:01rankings. That's been very successful as well, So a lot of different ways
- 35:05you can use tier rankings. Very excited for that core report is going to
- 35:08be our core plays essentially for the week draftings. And then we have cash
- 35:14as well, so you'll be able to see the guys that are in our
- 35:17cores in our main lineup a little right up, why we like them,
- 35:22and then what was the what's the next thing on there? Just your player
- 35:24pool. The last thing is your player poll actually highlight some cash plays in
- 35:29there as well, and I'll talk more on that in a second. I'll
- 35:30let you run with it first. Yeah. So then depending on the size
- 35:34of field, it'll vary in terms of the number of guys I list,
- 35:37But in a full field event, usually we're looking at you between thirty to
- 35:40forty guys that I list here is going to be all my highest owned guys
- 35:44and my personal exposure to those guys, and in that player pool, I
- 35:47will highlight guys that I think are cash game eligible. A lot of times
- 35:52we end up with like twelve to fifteen guys that I think you should kind
- 35:54of be building or looking at for cash game. I will have a cash
- 35:59core report though as well, with the three guys that I think you definitely
- 36:01need to play. You can come back to the player pool and fill off
- 36:04the rest of the lineup with guys that I have tagged as cash plays.
- 36:07But in this section will be my player pool with my exposures cash game plays
- 36:13highlighted. Very easy, straightforward piece of content. Yeah, and just to
- 36:17touch that quickly, someone asked today about like FanDuel stuff. Again, Remember,
- 36:22as we say, like Hoop always says this, our goal is always
- 36:23to continue to improve and add on and that's what we're going to do.
- 36:28So not only do we have FanDuel projections and ownership coming, but we also
- 36:34will have other stuff covered for that as well. I know fanduels, some
- 36:37Nimes people say, oh, they've given up on their product. I even
- 36:38chime in on that a little bit sometimes and say it feels like they have,
- 36:42But at I will say at the Majors and stuff like that, they
- 36:45have some really big tournaments. You can win one hundred K up top.
- 36:46So having that extra bonus coverage will definitely be good and then for Hoops point
- 36:52there, just even in the beginning, if you want to be able to
- 36:54go on and see the cash plays in the core cash that Hoop sets up,
- 36:59it is for Draftking, but Bandal's pricing extremely soft, so you can
- 37:02just take the cash plays hooplegs there and then go to his player pool and
- 37:07find the guys that he's selected in green and be able to fit them in
- 37:09and find yourself a pretty good lineup if you're just taking in the free show
- 37:14that stuff and putting it all together. It's really a winning combination to be
- 37:17able to get after it. I think Hooped, so anything you want to
- 37:20add on that piece. I mean someone just asked what's better, but yeah,
- 37:22what's better your your golf DFS game or your actual DFS game. It's
- 37:27a very easy answer because I'm not one of those people that is going to
- 37:31tell you I go out and shoot in the seventies and then you see me
- 37:34golf and I'm in the nineties. I'm about one hundred guy, right if
- 37:37I break one hundred, I'm feeling real good about myself. So not a
- 37:40great golfer. Best round I'd say probably right around like ninety ish so I'm
- 37:46not a great golfer, better at the DFS PGA than real golf, So
- 37:52that's an easy answer. And yeah, my law, my long game trump's
- 37:55at all. So yeah, it's like the Greens. I guess the Nationals
- 38:00be they golf, keep it on track, go to the Masters this year.
- 38:02Maybe that'd be fun. So you know, just talking about that,
- 38:05I think that's kind of my other angle that I want to talk about.
- 38:07The slate plan is the one I control. I mean, this is gonna
- 38:09be a couple of cores, which this is other thing. Two people all
- 38:13core plays. They've been around forever, Like every site does them. Other
- 38:15sites call them top plays, things like that. There's lots of different ways
- 38:19you can angle it, but all it really is, and we've talked about
- 38:21this from day one. We know there's people out there that just don't have
- 38:24a lot of time to dig in and sift through all these things all week.
- 38:28That's how I originally got the idea for doing the tidbits threads on Twitter.
- 38:31People said, look, I'm I can't keep track. There's twenty podcasts,
- 38:35there's ten shows, there's all these things on different sites, all these
- 38:37things that I can't figure out, so I was trying to compile them and
- 38:40put them all together for people. That's the same thing here. If you
- 38:44like the content that myself hoop others do for free, you're obviously gonna love
- 38:47this. And it's at a very cheap price point to get in versus what
- 38:51the competitors charge for basically the same thing. So that's kind of the angle
- 38:53there. The slate plan will have a couple of cores that I'm thinking about
- 38:57that if you want to try and angle at it, you could get after
- 38:59it. You could ask me about them in the discord, like maybe is
- 39:01this one better for this, this one better for that? If you want
- 39:04to know how I'm thinking about them, I'll explain it. In the slate
- 39:07plan. I'll talk a ton about game theory, correlation, if it's a
- 39:09weather week, maybe leverage across that just angles to attack the actual slate from,
- 39:15not just from this. Like that's why I always get a kick out
- 39:17of that question. I know it's a fun question, but like I don't
- 39:21get the golf as much. I'm in Canada. There's not going to be
- 39:22a lot of golf weeks for me to go out. But also, I
- 39:24don't think you have to know anything about any sport to be able to win
- 39:28at it. At DFS. I've proven that myself to be able to go
- 39:30out and have success in these DFS sports. You don't need to know about
- 39:35it. You don't need to know a lot as much as you need to
- 39:37know how to attack the actual slate at hand. And as we talked about,
- 39:39not just our differentiator with price, but without with the ability to go
- 39:44and attack, what is the industry doing? How can we beat that?
- 39:47If you're not thinking like that, you're probably going to be behind in these
- 39:51sports, and with high variants in a sport like golf, that's just another
- 39:53angle to attack it from. What are others doing? Where's the chalk landing?
- 39:57What are the chalk rust It's not just about the what does the chalk
- 40:00roster construction look like? And then I love this one, Tampo's tibbets.
- 40:06Let me spend more time. That's literally what we do here. That's what
- 40:07it's been about since day one. That's what it's always gonna be about.
- 40:10People make fun of it. I've heard other people say more is more,
- 40:14and that's fine. I mean again, we have friends and other spots that
- 40:16work there we have some that don't think we're friends. Whatever, all these
- 40:19things people do and say what they want to say. Our focus is always
- 40:22going to be on ship in nation. It's always going to be on our
- 40:25members, our community, getting the best deal for everybody, helping people out.
- 40:30Others can say it. A lot of people saying it, though literally
- 40:32just jumped in the ring this year. Hoop and I have been doing this
- 40:35forever. Our reputation, ship a nation, reputation, the credibility factors.
- 40:38They have been doing it forever, been saying the same stuff forever, and
- 40:42been standing by what we put out forever. And everyone's all, you're selling
- 40:45so much. We're brand new, we're seven months into the industry and we're
- 40:49trying to disrupt and we're doing it and it's working and people are loving it.
- 40:52So it is what it is. If you want to be a part
- 40:54of it, the time is now to join the nation. One other thing
- 40:58I want to talk about, Hoop is definitely showdown. I mean, this
- 41:00is a huge opportunity and it gets overlooked. And I think even now a
- 41:04lot of people say, like, oh, everyone's doing the weather angle this
- 41:07morning, everyone's on that, but they forget you and I have seen it
- 41:09time and time again doing those shows that we're still in a bubble and it
- 41:14still is an angle that you can attack from. We've had a ton of
- 41:16Showdown success. We've seen members have a ton of Showdown success. It's a
- 41:21great Showdown game to play. And I know a lot of other players pros
- 41:23too that I talked to with these live finals that said they got better rois
- 41:28in Showdown by far than they do in classic slate because it's just a different
- 41:31angle of attack and it's not going to be the same for everyone. I'm
- 41:35just saying them bring that up. I think is pretty interesting, Like it
- 41:37makes kind of it makes sense when you think it's not everyone just doing the
- 41:40same thing. And we'll cover that as well. Yeah, it's a whole
- 41:43other dynamic, a whole other opportunity to go in there and win some money
- 41:47playing PGA dfs, and a lot of people, you know, I think
- 41:51people view Showdown is just like an add on type there. I'm just going
- 41:54to play it for entertainment, but really, Showdown provides some of the best
- 41:58opportunities to get an advance in PGA dfs because even if you think you have
- 42:02the best weather advantage going into a full week can fall apart quickly. I
- 42:06mean it can very If there's one rain delay and you're you're not anticipating a
- 42:09rain delay, it flips the advantage. Well, in Showdown, it's much
- 42:14easier to find the advantages. It's much easier, you know, to latch
- 42:19on to certain situations and take advantage of it. And we saw it last
- 42:22season, you know, because again that was a big focus of ours to
- 42:27start when we started shipping Nation, was to make sure that we put an
- 42:30emphasis on the Showdown content, not just say no, here are a couple
- 42:32of plays to play, but really hone in and take advantage of some of
- 42:36these situations, whether it be weather, whether it be the way the course
- 42:38is playing. Sometimes we see the course just plays easier in the morning or
- 42:42the afternoons, whatever it may be, gives us an opportunity to really take
- 42:45advantage of that. And that is always relayed via our through our content and
- 42:51in discord as well. And we talked about it a lot of times last
- 42:53year in the chat. Hey, hey, fellows, are we going all
- 42:55in on this weather advantage for for round two, Round three? And you
- 42:59know, we can admit to it and go with it, and sometimes it's
- 43:01the last minute decision, right, I mean, sometimes we don't know,
- 43:05you know, right up until lock what we're going to do. But that's
- 43:07why it's very important to be in that discord because we're always there leading up
- 43:10to Locke answering those questions. You know, we're going five to one on
- 43:14the weather advantage, We're going all in that sort of thing. So I
- 43:15think we did a really good job with that last season, really taking advantage
- 43:21of certain situations in Showdown, and you know, it's some we're going to
- 43:24continue to obviously do going into this season, but it's going to be a
- 43:28full year of it, not just half a PGA Season's going to be the
- 43:30full season all the way through. Yeah, I gotta give a guy,
- 43:32our guy d D double D shout out here. He's already in the golf
- 43:37streets with us now too obviously with us through football. I think a lot
- 43:39of people are going to convert over and do this just because it's pretty obvious,
- 43:43like I said, the ability to just to swap from one what I
- 43:45call a weekly sport to a second weekly sport. Even though in both golf
- 43:49and NFL you do have Showdown and you're in the mix. It definitely makes
- 43:52a lot of sense. And they got to give a huge shoutout to our
- 43:53guy, Go Collect. I said, Showdown has been my most profitable DFS
- 43:58sport aside from BB. For those that don't know what BB is, it's
- 44:00best Ball, NFL, best Ball streets. Our guy go collect ships the
- 44:06smaller Drafters was thirty thousand dollars up top, just massive, massive score,
- 44:09So congrats to you, Go Collect. I know we had a lot of
- 44:13fun with that. We are gonna have some Drafters playoff best Ball shows coming
- 44:16out. We had one last week to get the swing, get into the
- 44:19mix with Title and Marley it's right here on this channel, and then we're
- 44:22gonna have more with Hoop and Ham and Marley and guys throughout the next couple
- 44:25weeks. It was Title and it was Title on HOO, but I mean
- 44:29that's right. Sorry, Marley, he's next too, That's right. So
- 44:32either way, congrats again to go Collect. And then one quick thing I
- 44:37saw on that you just mentioned Hoop was the Showdown shows. We will still
- 44:39have our Round two and Round three Showdown shows on the Mail Media Network.
- 44:45Those will be TBA to be announced We're gonna wait and see because some of
- 44:47those may actually end up having to be Thursday or sorry, Friday or Saturday
- 44:52morning shows, just the way these California Swings and Hawaii stuff goes. So
- 44:55we will let you know on that, but that will again be on the
- 44:59site. You can I always find our shows for free right here. There
- 45:01is no secret shows to go find on the site under PGA. All the
- 45:06stuff that you be getting here, the showdown, core report and more,
- 45:08all the breakdown of everything else that we went through already. If you guys
- 45:13have any questions, throw them into the chat. We'll take on any questions
- 45:15now and then Hoop, I want to talk a little bit about the prize
- 45:19giveaways. So we've got the two hundred dollars one and done to give away
- 45:22to somebody on from the Twitter space that brought that into the mix. We'll
- 45:27get them into that if you can find a winner for that. I will
- 45:30note quickly just on the breakdown here of the next spot, the setup of
- 45:35what we're going to be giving away so real quickly, just so you guys
- 45:37know. We're doing this just like when we launched the original site. But
- 45:40we're gonna add a extra caveat to it, so by next week we'll announce
- 45:45it, probably on a Thursday, I guess after the Sony Open. Locks
- 45:49will remind you again next Tuesday when we do hooping myself three pm Eastern for
- 45:53the Sony Open Show on Thursday. The prices will go to thirty nine and
- 45:58two thirty nine straight forward. Here you get the week to get to it
- 46:01weekly won't change. It's fourteen bucks to try it out, no discord.
- 46:07Honestly, at this point I I would recommend still try it out if you
- 46:09want, but I would say, you know, at least get All Sports
- 46:12twenty four dollars or just get up to the monthly. It's up to you.
- 46:15The PGA ten code real quick, last time bringing this one up for
- 46:19now, just to show up. PGA ten gets you ten percent off your
- 46:22first monthly package or season package. And I do want to be clear on
- 46:28this again, and that way, if you have questions, you could throw
- 46:30them in there. It means you're gonna get three dollars and forty cents off
- 46:32your monthly to drop it down, and then you're gonna go renew at thirty
- 46:37four dollars because you got in on the first week. Next week when it
- 46:42goes to thirty nine dollars for the Amex on the week of the fifteenth of
- 46:45January, you'll be able to get thirty nine dollars for tree three dollars ninety
- 46:51cents ten percent off, but you'll renew at thirty nine, So not only
- 46:53will your first payment be more, but your renewal will be at thirty nine.
- 46:58So you have to get in now if you're doing it. That's the
- 47:00key. Lastly, the season long. It's one ninety nine right now,
- 47:06but using code PGA ten gets you in for one hundred and seventy nine dollars.
- 47:09That gets you PGA through September. First eight months of content works out
- 47:15to about five dollars per event. Four dollars and fifty cents. I think
- 47:19is what ends up costing you. This gets you in the discord, It
- 47:22gets you everything we talked about for the entire season. Next week, when
- 47:25it goes to two thirty nine, you'll still be able to get twenty three
- 47:29dollars and ninety cents off, but you won't and there's nothing to renew at.
- 47:32That'll be the price. You won't be able to get near the one
- 47:35seventy nine so keep that in mind. So just a note for anyone willing
- 47:38to watch this show, follow us on the social media accounts and see this
- 47:43code you're getting in. Some people will not watch this show and pay thirty
- 47:46four or one ninety nine. We tried, We're out there. We've advertised
- 47:50this everywhere. We're letting you know loud and clear. But just real quick
- 47:53on the contest. The basics of it are this. Anyone who signs up
- 47:58for the weekly today, we'll have a chance to win a monthly. We're
- 48:01gonna pick one weekly winner next week to get upgraded to the monthly. Anyone
- 48:07who signs up for a monthly is gonna get one winner from that pool will
- 48:12be upgraded to a season. And anyone who buys this season and again these
- 48:16odds will probably be better for you because much more people are gonna buy the
- 48:20monthly than the seasonal. It's just the way these businesses work, the way
- 48:22these communities are set up. People join for most affordable or whatever it may
- 48:27be. But someone who buys the season will get upgraded to the five ninety
- 48:31nine all access package. We're gonna have tons of contests for our members.
- 48:37We have a member's one and Done contest right now, our current members pricing
- 48:40stays locked in. Everything's good, but we're still gonna have contests for our
- 48:44members. But we'll announce this now as well quickly too. For anybody who
- 48:47signs up for the All Access weekly will get bumped to a monthly All Access
- 48:52because some people right now are gonna watch us and say, honestly, I'm
- 48:54sold, but I'm just gonna get the All Access package and then not be
- 48:58able to win. Anybody who signs up for the All Access monthly will win
- 49:02a six month package, and anybody who signs up for the six month can
- 49:07win the annual. Anybody who signs up for the annual will be refunded.
- 49:12We'll give one one person who signs up for that a refund, so no
- 49:15matter what, you're gonna have a chance to win. We'll have a big
- 49:19contest for our members coming up for Founding Family only at first for the Waste
- 49:23Management Phoenix Open, and another for our current members at that time. We
- 49:29have a big event coming up for the Waste Management Phoenix Open. But before
- 49:31I get to that hoop, I'll talk to you about Let's talk about the
- 49:36winner first for the one and Done the two undred dollars ticket. Yeah,
- 49:38very excited about the giveaways here, I mean, the man, it's it's
- 49:44an exciting time. And you know we'll be announcing those winners obviously next week,
- 49:47all the upgrades and whatnot. Great time obviously to get in. But
- 49:51the winner for the one and done, let's go through these comments, it's
- 49:55gonna be our guy, Trent on on Ax. Trent his name is at
- 50:01John Sydney zero, So you type it into the box how it is over
- 50:06there, hoop and then he can know. But definitely congrats to Trent.
- 50:10That's awesome. So Trent will win the two hundred dollars one and done entry
- 50:15to the Mayo Fantasy Golf Championships one and done, eighty thousand up top in
- 50:20that one and ross our guy. I will clarify for you on this one.
- 50:22I posted it right now. It'll be live until Locke on Sony open
- 50:27for the first or sorry on this week for the century for the first two
- 50:32hundred people to get in the winner of the contest this week. So our
- 50:37girl Kim always says, I want to win my contest. I don't want
- 50:40it to be random. Make it more fair, I say, Okay,
- 50:43so we hooked her up. And just to note on Ross's question, if
- 50:45you go in there, it's I think it's pinned right now. If not,
- 50:49it will be right after this. But it's not many people in it
- 50:51yet, but it will be broken down. So the winner, it's all
- 50:52about shipping it here. Whoever ships it will win the two hundred dollars ticket
- 50:58to the one and done. We'll get second winner out. That's for memor
- 51:00only. So if you sign up today and get in the discord and are
- 51:04one of the first two undred people to get in that contest and win it
- 51:07ship it, you'd be able to get that one and done ticket as well.
- 51:09But our first winner is Trent. Go ahead on this one. What
- 51:12do we got here? Oh he's muted. He can't have a good day
- 51:16though, we're not talking. Yeah that's true. Yeah. So what if
- 51:20I have an NFL package and want PGA still after NFL, Well, we
- 51:22don't offer NFL only package. So if you have the NFL package, you
- 51:25have the All Access package, which would give you access to PGAPGA. If
- 51:30you have the All Access monthly six months annual, you have access to everything
- 51:36on the site. Say, had nothing to worry about so we didn't have
- 51:37any just NFL packages. Assuming you have, you should have full access.
- 51:42Yeah, and to clarify that being because we're been transparent since the start,
- 51:45Like obviously you can go back and watch our original launch video of the site.
- 51:47There is people that got in for our first week only founding family all
- 51:52access deal of forty nine dollars. When this golf package, even at thirty
- 51:55four, even when it goes to thirty nine, you would never give that
- 51:59up. That's again we told you we would protect you on that price you're
- 52:02paying. You're gonna be paying ten dollars more a month, But get everything
- 52:06across the board where someone's paying thirty nine for just golf, we just framed
- 52:09up why that's still the best deal out there, but for you, you
- 52:13would not move off that even fifty nine. The only way I can see
- 52:15it, I guess, is if somebody's on a sixty nine dollars a month
- 52:19and wanted it for football and that was just the only show in town,
- 52:22they may be able to say, Okay, now I don't need I only
- 52:24want golf in the offseason. You can go off the sixty nine, hop
- 52:29back in on the thirty four and just get golf. That's up to you,
- 52:31but you'd still be better off to pick up the season package and pay
- 52:35like twenty two dollars a month is what it works out to go ahead here,
- 52:38who I mean, it's right on the page. Double mute today too.
- 52:44Yeah, this is incredible stuff to end off the end the show.
- 52:47We're talking for you if I'm on mute the whole time. Right, there's
- 52:51the price right here. This is a pricing for PGA only. Maybe you
- 52:52can click over and show for the full access. Yes, so he says,
- 52:57so much for all for one. No, it's there. We just
- 52:59now have it where if you want PGA only, because we have enough people
- 53:01who said we're in it for PGA, you can still get in for sixty
- 53:06nine dollars less ten percent and get in for a month. You can still
- 53:09get in for five hundred and thirty nine dollars for the entire site for everything.
- 53:15Forty nine dollars a month is what it is. At five ninety nine.
- 53:17It's like forty five dollars a month for every sport for the entire year.
- 53:22The longer you get in for, the better the price. But we've
- 53:23never went to that. Yeah, and it's fine, again the troll's law
- 53:28would come out. That's fine, we don't care you. You obviously haven't
- 53:30paid attention or followed along. Go look at the success of the community,
- 53:34the fun that people are having. There's year the if that was a joke,
- 53:37if that was a joke, that was like a really funny joke.
- 53:39Joe, Yeah, and then this is uh, it says just a question
- 53:45about the One and Done won't fill up before the end. The two hundred
- 53:47player free role. It's whoever can get into it. It only lets you
- 53:51put a maximum of two hundred on draftings. That's the way we do it
- 53:53so that it's fair the first two hundred members to get in. And then
- 53:57the way that works is because it's for this week. The One and Done
- 54:00doesn't start until next week, so we will know the winner of the Century
- 54:05One and Done member only contest by this Sunday evening. We'll be able to
- 54:08get them in there and get them set up so that they can go in
- 54:13and be in the One and Done starting at the Sony Open two hundred dollars
- 54:15buy in eighty thousand up tops six hundred and seventy spots. I believe is
- 54:20the number six seventy or six ninety, get paid, and then you're good
- 54:22to go for the entire season at that. So that's gonna be an awesome
- 54:27one as well. Is there a way to pay for the year but have
- 54:30the payments split up monthly or even every three months. We don't have that
- 54:34right now. Again, basically, our annual was five ninety nine. Even
- 54:37when you got it for two ninety nine for half of it's it's still cheaper
- 54:42right now. For when we're talking just this show on the PGA season,
- 54:45what that looks like. It's one seventy nine you can get in for,
- 54:49so it's a lot less than what that would be half of the annual anyway.
- 54:52Justin but by the way, reach out if you if you really want
- 54:55that, just reach out. I'll try and find the may way to make
- 54:58it work for you. Justin says any thoughts on doing live content at all,
- 55:02The main thing about that is it's going to be tournament dependent. I
- 55:06don't care as much about like if we have the data ford or all that.
- 55:08Like again, I don't think there's this crazy edge because it is tougher
- 55:12when you don't know how the rounds have went and things like that. But
- 55:15in general, if the contests are big enough and it makes sense, we
- 55:19may be interested. But I won't get it confused here for you, Like
- 55:22if it's fifty k to first, five KA second and two hundred bucks to
- 55:25ten, just to say they have a huge contest, we'll talk about it
- 55:30in discord. We'll cover whatever you want, answer any questions that you have.
- 55:32But I think that's probably the difference, Like it depends on what we
- 55:36see come with the market, and our guy rinn knows a great member always
- 55:39there hashtag cheperd says who gets mad at people offering the lowest price on the
- 55:44market and making sure you know the value they offer. It's literally a launch
- 55:47show about pricing. So I'm with you, my friend same goes through this
- 55:52part is something you're complaining about it, but you're watching and posted four comments
- 55:59like that. Just that's sad times. But we're not interested. We're not
- 56:01interested in that stuff obviously in terms of live like it's you know, we've
- 56:05got to see on the prize pools, like if draft Kings make it makes
- 56:07a commitment to the live tour and in solid contest, you know, we'll
- 56:13adjust on the fly as we always do. But like last season it was
- 56:16like just nothing. It was like nonexistent, So we got to see what
- 56:20draft Kings offers. Yeah, we'll definitely do that. Same for euro is
- 56:23a little bit different. Euros there's you know, some great stuff people covering
- 56:27it, things like that out there right now. Again, we said it
- 56:29from the start, we'll bring in what we know and what we cover,
- 56:31and that's what we do. If we have somebody come in for Euro content
- 56:35maybe throughout the year, then it could always be something we add on,
- 56:37like we always say, we'll continue to improve and add on. But there's
- 56:40gonna be lots more where this came from, and there's gonna be anything that
- 56:44we add that's content related. We'll be brought in to hear tools wise.
- 56:49Again, if it's a tool like some of the tools we currently have,
- 56:51will definitely be included. If there's something bigger that comes out down the stretch,
- 56:55possibly, then that will be additional discussion at that time and we'll bring
- 57:00another launch show that comes with that. Hoop anything else you want to talk
- 57:05about, Man, before we get out of here, overwhelming support already,
- 57:08I mean, man, just thank you to everyone honestly for trusting us and
- 57:14you know tuning into the show obviously, but but trusting us moving forward to
- 57:17be provided for PGA content. Like, I'm kind of blown away by the
- 57:21support so far. So again, appreciate everyone looking forward to this season,
- 57:25our first full season of PGA content, taking you all the way through every
- 57:30single week. It's I mean, it's no joke. I mean it's every
- 57:32single week there's a PGA event that we'll be covering for you moving forward.
- 57:37And we're both very passionate about it. Yes, we love all the other
- 57:39sports, you know, big into NFL, big into MMA now which has
- 57:43become one of my favorites MLB, but man, PGA is a you know,
- 57:47it has been a passion of mine for for quite some time. And
- 57:52you know, you and I together on the PGA product just man, it's
- 57:55been a fun ride so far, and I'm really looking forward to the future.
- 57:59I think feed up off each other quite well, and you know,
- 58:00we have our points where we can trast, but also you know we come
- 58:06together on a lot of points for PGA dfs, So it's a it's a
- 58:09really exciting pairing and again looking forward to getting the season started with you again.
- 58:15Yeah, Like, Who've said a lot of interest already, So we
- 58:16definitely appreciate everybody supporting us. We think our team is strong as what it
- 58:21is. That's why it's been the setup that we have. You guys know
- 58:22my passion for been doing it for years. There's forty events coming up and
- 58:25I'm more than excited than ever. I'm taking on more shows. Excited to
- 58:29partner with dejener at seventy five and do that show. Going to be back
- 58:31in the studio with Mayo starting next week. Can't wait. Hoop and I
- 58:36back for a full season for once, we only had since May last year.
- 58:38Now we get to do a full into Hoop's point. Sometimes people have
- 58:40said, like putting a I'll go back to that one. I want to
- 58:44say this one. Yeah. Some people have literally taken our showdown stuff,
- 58:46put it together and come out with the shipper and said, I just took
- 58:49what you both said and popped it in and it ended up working out and
- 58:52that was a great way to do it. I definitely think you could do
- 58:54that on the main slate as well. Adding a guy like Lee bringing his
- 58:58course fit rankings, the value report he's in on the tier rankings now too.
- 59:02People are gonna be throwing bets and stuff into our members channel there where
- 59:06you could put in our sports betting channel. So lots of that. And
- 59:08to answer Mike's question, we mentioned it, but you will get the discord
- 59:12with monthly or with the season. It will just be for the PGA discord
- 59:16only, but that's what it should be. You're getting exactly what your setup
- 59:21is and that's how we can keep the prices the way we do the lean
- 59:22team, less is more, bringing you the best possible that we can.
- 59:27Like Jack says, small team, easy content to digest, less is more,
- 59:31that's the key. And then yeah, if anyone needs a season long
- 59:36Kevin match that we let him throw it in. And a great member of
- 59:37ours, Kevin good Man out there, he's got his stuff in there with
- 59:40the junkies league. Love to see that. I was trying to grab this
- 59:44one to my guy Dwayne, shout out the Dwayne. I meant to hit
- 59:46you up yesterday man. I got a little busy, but happy New Year
- 59:49to you, my friend. Was good seeing you at King of the Beach.
- 59:52Look forward to seeing you. Another guy just sharp, super good player
- 59:54in our discord all the time, having fun ship and plenty across all sports,
- 59:59a more that we missed there who we got to get out of here
- 1:00:01top of the hour. No man excited for the season to get kicked off.
- 1:00:05It's gonna be a fun ride. And again we appreciate all the support,
- 1:00:07you know, the people that tune into our shows, people that you
- 1:00:10know I've selected one of our packages. Just appreciate everyone, and you know,
- 1:00:15looking to continue the momentum here rolling into the new year and new season.
- 1:00:20Yeah, definitely excited for it. Our first sport where we can trial
- 1:00:22this with. I think it's probably only really again, I can't say for
- 1:00:24sure we do what the people want, but I think golf is a good
- 1:00:29spot to soft test this and then probably when football comes back around, we
- 1:00:31can adjust the pricing sum. It's obviously a little bit different for that,
- 1:00:35but I mean just in general, still want to focus on that. The
- 1:00:37chat's asking about the hoodies hoop. We got to see maybe more hoodies.
- 1:00:42It still is winter. We sold out of the first run that people were
- 1:00:45looking at here. We obviously have it under the merch if you go over
- 1:00:47here, but if you know, if you still want one of these,
- 1:00:50you can put the pre order in and then maybe we'll see about bringing another
- 1:00:53color to the table, but lots more to go on. One thing I
- 1:00:57did forget to mention, I'm gonna say it quickly just here at the end
- 1:01:00was about the Waste Management Degenerate seventy five. His team and then the entire
- 1:01:06ship team will be down at the Waste Management Phoenix Open this year. Gonna
- 1:01:09make it a fun event where we're gonna post up certain places. I believe
- 1:01:15we just solidified the spots. But one night it'll be at the Casino,
- 1:01:17one night he'll be at the Pop Stroke, and then of course we'll be
- 1:01:20at the event multiple days Sunday watching the Super Bowl somewhere at a watch party.
- 1:01:24But if you guys are gonna be in Phoenix, Arizona, or gonna
- 1:01:28you wanna go down there, you still have over a month to plan the
- 1:01:30Waste Management Phoenix Open February eighth to the twelfth. We'll be down there for
- 1:01:35sure, and you guys can come meet up with with us there. We'll
- 1:01:37have some open nights with some drinks and some food and things like that where
- 1:01:40we're covering it all. You guys can come down and hang out with us.
- 1:01:44But it's gonna be an awesome trip for that anything else? Who I
- 1:01:46thought you do? You have one more than you want to add to You're
- 1:01:49good, all right? Thank you guys so much. We appreciate you reach
- 1:01:52out to us. If you guys have any questions, you can find me
- 1:01:54on x at totag and tambo hit me up there. If you guys are
- 1:01:58a member, hit us up in the discord you have questions, info at
- 1:02:00ship a nation dot com. That's gonna do it for this one, guys,
- 1:02:04for who for myself totagging tambo led shipper