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Job 36:8-12 - Bound to God, Taught by God · The Bread of the Word Podcast

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  Welcome to Bread of the Word,
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  a space for quiet minds and anchor hearts
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  to dwell on the glory of Christ.
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  Let's ponder the verities of God together
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  and meditate on the mysteries we do not yet understand.
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  Looking back to our Redeemer
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  that we might walk forward in His Grace.
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  Hello and welcome back to the Bread of the Word podcast.
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  This is a
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  space for pondering the mysteries of God together
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  book by book piece by piece verse by verse
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  my name is Tyler.
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  I'm your resident Lophi theologian
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  and this is actually going to be the first
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  Sunday after Christmas, so this is the most recent
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  one following the Christmas holidays if so happy
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  there's our Merry Christmas,
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  but this is also gonna be the last
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  installment of the Bread of the Word podcast for 2025.
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  Going into 2026,
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  we've been celebrating 206 years of doing its podcast,
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  and so there that that's kind of a big number for me
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  something I've been doing for quite a while now
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  but today we are dealing with Job chapter 36.
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  We've been working through this
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  piece by piece for a little bit now,
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  but
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  we're going to be covering versus 8 through 12 today
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  so these are the words of God,
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  and if they be bound in
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  fetters and beholden in cords of affliction
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  then he showeth them their work
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  and their transgressions that they have exceeded
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  he openeth also their ear to discipline and commandeth
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  that they return.
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  From iniquity,
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  if they obey and serve Him,
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  they shall spend their days in prosperity
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  and their years
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  in pleasures, but if they obey, not
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  they shall perish by the sword
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  and they shall die without knowledge.
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  We're working through
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  the speeches of Elihu as he deals with Job, and as we've
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  established in previous episodes
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  specifically that Job has sought to justify himself
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  rather than God.
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  That is the focal point that Elihu has
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  to address
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  is that
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  Job has sought to vindicate himself at the expense
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  of giving glory to God.
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  That is essentially what Allihu is
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  dropping the hammer on
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  is that right there
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  and here we're dealing with
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  god's wisdom, god' strength, his purity.
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  But here we kind of transition away from
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  where we left off last time in verse 7
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  with he withdraws not his eyes from the righteous
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  but with kings. Are they on the throne
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  that God is concerned with
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  the matters in affairs of the earth
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  but he kind of
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  transitions to something really interesting
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  if they be bound in fetters and beholden
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  in cores of affliction,
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  and this passage is not entirely about judgment,
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  this is not
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  entirely about punishing the wicked, but this is
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  a description of people that live in god's world.
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  They live on god's terms
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  and
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  yet the illustration that Aliku gives is that they are
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  bound in fetters
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  and held in cords,
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  and that's really all King James language
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  but essentially means that they are in
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  some sense tied to God.
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  They are bound
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  in some sense in some metaphorical way
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  to the fact that they live in god's world,
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  that God is honest throne that God is sovereign
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  over their affairs,
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  and this is language that
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  to me
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  reminded me of Psalm chapter 2.
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  So let's look at that for a minute here so Psalm 2,
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  just a couple pages over I massively overshot
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  but Psalm 2 opens up with Why do the heated
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  rage and the people imagine a vain thing
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  the kings of the earth
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  set themselves and the rulers take counsel together
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  against the LORD and against his anointed
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  saying Let us break their bands asunder
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  and cast away their chords from us.
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  This is
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  following
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  Psalm 1 blesses the man who walketh not in the council,
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  the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners
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  nor sitteth in the scene of the scornful
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  but his delight is on the law of the LORD.
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  Essentially it's as I've heard it said
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  it's the be attitudes of the Old Testament,
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  but Psalm 2 kind of pivots away from
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  having that good godly view of his word
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  to the attitude of wicked kings
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  who wish to be rid of their ties to the king of heaven
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  that they wish to be
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  in a sense liberated from accountability to him.
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  Say, let us
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  break their bands asunder and cast away their
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  chords from us,
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  and so we have that same illustration in Psalm 2 that
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  we seem to have
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  in Job, which is that people are bound to God,
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  not in the sense that they're in prison,
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  not in the sense of that per se
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  but that there is a
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  relationship with God you in Christianity.
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  We like to say that it's not a religion,
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  it's a relationship,
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  but at the end of the day
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  we all have a relationship to God.
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  It's just either one through Adam,
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  which is in sin where it's one through Christ
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  as his redeemed people,
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  but we all have some relationship to God.
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  There's no neutral world views here' but everybody has
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  responded to God,
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  responded to his activity in the world
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  either positively or negatively.
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  And so the wicked king to the earth
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  says the Psalm, tell us that they long to be
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  freed of that connection to God, to be truly autonomous
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  and apart from his ways from his
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  his judgments,
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  and ultimately not to be accountable to him.
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  Let us break
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  their bands asunder and cast away their courts from us
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  let us be deliberated from God,
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  but Elihu seems to be establishing that all people
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  are bound to God.
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  That is not just the wicked is not just the judgment
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  but we are all bound
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  to God, that we are all
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  tied to the fact that He reigns to the fact that He is
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  sovereign and the fact that He is not like us.
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  That's one of the things that's been harped on time' and
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  time again, in the Book of Job is that God is
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  higher than us,
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  that God is holy and to such a degree
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  that even the angels in heaven
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  would be condemned,
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  that the heavens themselves are not unclean
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  in His sight there is nothing quite as pure,
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  quite as good,
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  quite as holy as God.
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  Yet this god is involved
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  in the Earth
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  in the medieval period. They thought of.
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  The way the planets were organized as sort of a cone,
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  and they saw Earth at the bottom
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  and the heavens were somewhere above that cone.
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  And so when they said He descended they saw that as a
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  true condescension down to the lowest part of creation
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  and we can debate whether or not that is entirely
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  accurate scientifically,
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  but the reality is that God descended
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  that he can descended to our world,
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  that despite how high he is
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  it says in Isaiah he
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  dwells in a high and lofty place,
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  but he also dwells with the meek and the lowly
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  that great
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  dichotomy that we can't quite wrap our heads around
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  that God is big and he is holy and he is perfect.
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  And yet He is here
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  with us that He is involved
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  in something so seemingly insignificant as earth
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  that is the miracle of Christmas is that God became man
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  and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory
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  as the Son of God,
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  and so Alaiku begins with
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  if people be bound
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  in cords and. Fetters.
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  It says then he meaning God
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  showeth them their work
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  and their transgressions that they have exceeded
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  he openeth also their
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  ear to discipline and commandeth that they return
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  from iniquity.
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  That part of what the
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  binding with the chords illustration does
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  is, it, communicates to us
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  our sin.
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  It communicates to us
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  how much lower we are than God,
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  that He shows us our work
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  He shows us our transgressions.
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  He shows us how unlike Him we are,
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  that He is holy He is good, He is pure
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  and we are not
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  we flip over to Isaiah 64,
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  picking up in verse 4,
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  for since the beginning of the world,
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  men have not heard
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  nor perceived by the ear
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  neither hath the eye seen oh God
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  beside thee
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  what He has prepared for him that waits for him
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  that sounds like something we see in the New Testament.
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  Eye has not seen
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  ear has not heard
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  the things which God has prepared for,
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  those that love him
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  which is
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  it's the gospel, it's the glory of Christ
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  revealed,
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  and what He has prepared for him that waitest for him
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  thou meetest him
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  that rejoiceth and worketh righteousness
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  those that remember thee in thy ways. Behold
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  thou art wrath,
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  for we have sinned and those is continuance,
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  and we shall be saying there's this
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  this dichotomy that
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  Isaiah is proclaiming
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  of Wadion God, but also that we are sinners condemned
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  that though we rejoice in His coming we also
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  are
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  sinners that we have also incurred
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  His wrath and His judgment,
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  verse 6, But we are all as an unclean thing
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  and all our righteousness
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  all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags
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  and we all do fade as a leaf
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  and our iniquities like the wind have taken us away
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  and there is none that calls upon thy name
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  that stirreth up himself
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  to take hold of thee
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  for thou hast hid thy faith from us
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  and hast consumed us
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  because of our iniquities.
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  He shows us our work because our righteous deeds
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  when compared with
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  the immeasurable riches of His nature
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  when compared with the vast radiant glory of God,
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  any good that we can muster
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  does not compare,
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  so god says that our righteous deeds are as filthy rags
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  verse 8, But now, O LORD,
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  thou art our Father,
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  we are the clay and thou art potter,
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  and we are all the work of thy hand
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  be not wrath, very sore. Oh Lord,
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  neither remember iniquity forever.
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  Behold, see, we beseech thee,
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  we are all thy people.
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  This is for Isaiah.
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  This is a proclamation, not shift of god's
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  justice for sin
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  but also of the people
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  longing and yearning to be redeemed
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  to be free from sin,
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  to see an end to god's vindication for a sin and to see
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  His goodness, His mercy to see deliverance
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  that's what it means to wait on the Lord is to wait
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  for God to deliver
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  out of these things
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  and so when we are bound in fetters and cords
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  of affliction,
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  the difference between the righteous and the wicked
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  when it comes to the chords is the response
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  because the wicked kings in Psalm 2
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  long to be free from the chords.
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  They long to be liberated from accountability to God.
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  But yet
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  people who are incovenant with God
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  through Christ,
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  people who have been redeemed
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  from their sin
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  who have been counted as righteousness according to
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  the merits of Christ.
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  We look at the chords
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  and we see them as a teacher
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  we look at the chords and it leads us to prayer
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  to praise,
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  says he openeth also their
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  ear to discipline and commandeth that they return
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  from iniquity.
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  If they obey and serve him
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  they shall spend their days in prosperity
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  and their years and pleasures,
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  but if they obey,
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  not they shall perish by the sword and they shall die
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  without knowledge.
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  Nowhere
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  in this passage does the state that the courts go away
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  nowhere in this passage
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  does he continue that illustration say that
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  the righteous will be
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  freed from the feders
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  he doesn't use this again.
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  It just says that they are bound in feders and chains,
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  and I think what we can gather from that
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  is that when we are in right standing with God,
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  when God has redeemed us
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  and has brought us into his perfect family
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  we have become the people of God
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  that the chords stay
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  the binding. Stays,
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  but we don't see it as negative
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  that we look at the fact that we are bound to God,
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  and we see that as something praiseworthy
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  that I am gods
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  through the work of Christ, I have been made his
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  let's look at John 10 for a second
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  John chapter 10,
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  first 25. Jesus answered them.
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  I told you and ye believe
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  not the works that I do in my father's name
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  they bear witness of me,
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  but ye believe not because ye are not of my sheep
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  as I said unto you,
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  my sheep hear my voice and I know them
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  and they follow me
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  and I give unto them eternal life
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  and they shall never perish.
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  Neither shall any man pluck them
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  out of My hand.
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  My Father, which gave them, to me
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  is greater than all
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  and no man is able to pluck them
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  out of my father's hand
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  I and my Father are one.
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  The Jews took up stones again to stone him
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  this is one of the areas where Jesus is accused of
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  blasphemy in the New Testament narrative
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  because he claims to be equal with God.
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  To claim God is His Father, which is
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  honestly is building into the Trinity
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  as we see flesh out in church history that
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  there is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit
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  and the Jews at the time
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  were not crazy about that idea.
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  This is part of what
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  leads to his arrest and his crucifixion.
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  Is his claim to be to have equality with the Father,
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  but the reason he goes here
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  is in part
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  because of what this says about what he came to do,
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  his His signs His works.
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  They bear witness that He and the Father are one
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  that He is sent from the Father,
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  but these people did not believe why?
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  Because they are not His,
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  because the Father had not given these individuals
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  to Christ.
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  So he says you are, not of my sheep
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  my sheep, hear, my
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  I know them and they follow me
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  my father, which give them, to me
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  is greater than all and no man is able to pluck them
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  out of my father's hand
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  so when we look at the Book of Job,
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  that is something we have to be cognizant of is that
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  those of us who have been sealed by the Holy Spirit,
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  those of us who have been counted is righteousness.
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  For the sake of Christ.
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  We are held firmly in the hand of God,
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  that we are
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  kept by God,
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  and so when sufferings and afflictions do come
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  it is not because we have lost God.
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  It is not because we have
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  somehow wandered out of the blessings of God
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  that while there may be sin, there may be suffering
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  god is still God,
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  and anything that befalls us is ultimately from
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  sovereignty, and so we have the ability
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  by the Holy Spirit. You perceive these things
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  truly that suffering is a teacher
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  that the cords of affliction and the fetters
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  are not a condemnation,
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  but they confirm to us that God
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  is God.
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  God is here, god is present,
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  god is with us,
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  and so we look at the fetters.
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  We look at the chords of affliction
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  and we see them as opening our ears
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  to discipline and commands of God.
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  They draw us to turn even closer
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  to the Lord.
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  If they obey and serve Him.
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  They shall spend their days in prosperity
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  and their years in pleasures.
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  It says in Psalm 37, I believe
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  delight yourself in the Lord,
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  and he will give thee the desires of thy heart
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  that if we are
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  delighting ourselves in God,
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  our desire is God,
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  but if they obey not they shall perish by the sword
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  they shall die
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  without knowledge.
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  Likewise says in Hosea
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  that my people perish for lack of knowledge
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  and that's not a picture of
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  of head knowledge of having
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  your theology right in your mind,
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  but that is experientially knowing God.
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  It's the difference between
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  knowing factually
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  that honey is sweet
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  and savoring the fact that it is sweet
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  and so the wicked that
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  perished by the sword are those who do not savor
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  the riches of God in Christ
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  13, But the hypocrites and heart
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  heap of wrath. They cry not
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  when he binded them,
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  though we still have that binding image but
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  they don't cry out they are indifferent.
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  It's the picture we seem to have
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  of the hypocrites and heart because hypocrisy
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  is rooted in the heart
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  it's a heart posture,
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  it's not just about your thought life.
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  And this phrase heap of wrath
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  pops up in Romans chapter 2
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  dealing with hypocrisy
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  so Romans chapter 2
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  picking up in verse 1
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  therefore thou art inexcusable. Oh man,
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  whosoever thou art that judges
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  for wherein thou judgest another,
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  thou condemnest thyself
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  for thou that judgest does the same things
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  that is the definition of hypocrisy
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  but we are sure
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  that the judgment of God is according to truth
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  against them which commit such things
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  and think is now this oh man that judges them
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  which do such things and do is the same
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  that thou shalt escape the judgment of God
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  or despises thou.
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  The riches of his goodness
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  and forbearance and long suffering,
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  not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee
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  to repentance.
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  But after the hardness and impenitent heart
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  treacherous up into thyself wrath
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  against the day of wrath
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  and revelation of the righteous judgment of God,
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  who will render to every man according to his deeds
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  the picture that Paul uses is that
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  those of us
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  in hypocrisy, those who cast judgment on one person
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  while being guilty of the same sins
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  at the core
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  are storing up wrath
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  for the day of wrath,
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  that it's like a bank account that were just a
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  crowing dead on
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  and it seems that that language in part
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  may originate from Job
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  with. The hypocrites and heart heaping up wrath
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  and they cry not
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  when he binded them.
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  They are indifferent
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  to the acts of God,
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  so the the remedy then
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  is to cry out
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  I think
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  if the hypocrites in a heart do not cry out
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  when the works of God are made known to them
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  than one who is pure in heart
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  is going to be one who
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  devotes himself to the Lord
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  when the Lord makes himself known
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  one who responds to God
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  when God is made
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  known to him.
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  See the Bible verse that made me a Christian
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  was not John 316.
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  It wasn't
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  one of the Happy New Testament things about being made
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  new. The verse that made me a Christian was Isaiah 65
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  wo is me
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  for I am ruined
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  am a man of unclean lips
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  and I dwell amongst the people of unclean lips
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  in mine eyes have seen the king, the Lord
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  of hosts.
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  That is the verse
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  where when I was 14 years old, God became real to me
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  when I heard that
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  I no longer had the opportunity
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  to see God as an abstract as something that was not
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  tangible or real as something esoteric
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  when I read that verse
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  and the 4 verses before it about the holiness of God,
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  there was no doubt in my mind at that point
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  that God is real.
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  God can be known,
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  and then I am
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  hopelessly unqualified to stand in His presence
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  apart from the Grace.
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  Of God,
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  so the hypocrites in a heart heap up wrath
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  and they do not respond when God moves.
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  So instead
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  let us
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  seek pure hearts
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  that do respond when God moves.
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  Psalm 119 has this really interesting
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  phrase about the heart being fat with Greece
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  psalm 119, verse 30
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  back in verse 69
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  for clarity the proud have forged a lie against me,
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  but I will keep thy precepts with my whole heart
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  their heart is as fat as grease,
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  but I delight in thy law and in the poetic device here
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  the idea of a heart being fat with
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  grease is not a good thing
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  that it's a heart that's callous that is' inflexible
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  it is
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  it's not a good thing
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  and it's contrasted with
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  the psalmist saying but I delight in thy law
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  and so
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  the picture is that to prevent a heart that is
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  fat with Grace that is unfeeling
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  when it comes to the things of God
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  to delight
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  in the word God
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  is to delight in
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  the word of God by
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  which God has made himself known to us,
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  that by the Scriptures
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  we see who God is,
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  what he's done and why it matters.
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  And all of this
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  points us to Christ,
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  the image of the invisible God,
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  the firstborn of all creation,
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  the one who is made peace
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  with God by the blood of His cross,
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  the one who has
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  translated us
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  out of the Kingdom of Darkness into the Kingdom
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  of. Light,
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  so let us not have unfilling hearts
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  let us treasure up not wrath,
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  but let us treasure up the glories of Christ.
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  Let our hearts be softened
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  and invigorated by who he is
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  and what he's done for us.
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  Let our hearts be soft always
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  let us respond
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  when God moves in,
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  around and through us
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  and in closing comes our Lophi benediction
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  to God be glory interminable
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  and to His Son Christ being God and man,
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  and to the Holy Ghost, inseparable
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  as it has been since the world began
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  thank you for joining me today
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  on the Bread of the Word podcast.
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