Latest / For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast / #365 - For Azeroth!: “The End is Nigh”
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- 0:00There is, there's a 0% chance I will do a dungeon between
- 0:03January 20th and the start of midnight.
- 0:06I just, I, I won't because I expect that it's going to be a
- 0:11casserole of nonsense. And my concern is not just for
- 0:14the people who enjoy it, but it's for people who are
- 0:16returning victory for the Forsaken.
- 0:20For Lauderon. For the Karen tour for.
- 0:25Pandaria for. Calendar to the burning region.
- 0:32For Gilnaeus, but have not done for the Lich King, for the
- 0:39Sindora, for the Alliance, for the Horn for Azeroth.
- 0:46Hello and welcome back to Fort Azra.
- 0:49Happy New Year to all of you guys.
- 0:51I hope that you had a wonderful holiday season.
- 0:54You got rested, you didn't fight with family.
- 0:57All that the good wishes from us to you.
- 1:01And talking about us, My name is Manny.
- 1:04I am one of the hosts. And I am joined, of course, by
- 1:06our favorite Tennessee resident. We have Lex.
- 1:10Lex, how are you doing? I'm good, although you threw me
- 1:13off by not saying. Welcome to another episode of
- 1:15For Azra. So my little dance got like
- 1:18utterly destroyed. I apologize.
- 1:21Worst thing that's happened today by far.
- 1:23I apologize. I'm good.
- 1:26I was able to catch up on some World of Warcraft stuff because
- 1:30we're, you know, like in a bit of a lull.
- 1:32So I was able to actually finally do the the rest of the
- 1:35storyline and I read Blood Ties and yeah, I'm feeling good about
- 1:40the World of Warcraft. It's been, it's been treating
- 1:43me. It's been treating me well.
- 1:46OK, did the book build up your hype for the expansion or what?
- 1:52What's your like quick review in one sentence of Blood Dies.
- 1:57Christy Golden is a master of her craft.
- 2:02OK, OK, strong words. And then coming to us from the
- 2:09wonderful province of Nova Scotia, we have Jean.
- 2:14Why is it OK to dox me but not lex?
- 2:17You've doxed yourself way too many times.
- 2:18It's over now it's it's over. I was upset that you didn't
- 2:22follow up with Lex's location by saying she was the only 10 you
- 2:26see. Get it?
- 2:30Audio first format. She's from, well, this video
- 2:33show too now. No, they could tell by this
- 2:36sound. I said audio.
- 2:37First, you, you definitely could tell by somebody's voice if
- 2:40they're A10 or not. You know, I could listen to the
- 2:43guy that does blonde zombies void.
- 2:45I don't I would never have to see a picture of that man.
- 2:48But just by hearing his voice, he's a 10.
- 2:52That's how I feel about the kite in Legend of Korra.
- 2:57Yeah, see, it's I get it. I get it.
- 3:00No, no, no, I'm doing good. I'm doing good.
- 3:06I haven't played as much Warcraft as I thought I would
- 3:10over the holidays. I've played a lot of Expedition
- 3:1233. Really loved that game.
- 3:15It's a masterpiece as well. I finished Blood Ties also and I
- 3:19agree with Lex, it's my favorite.
- 3:21Well, I agree with Lex that Kristy Golden is a master of a
- 3:24craft, but it's my favorite Warcraft book ever, and not just
- 3:28because it heavily focuses on Torelli and the one true hero
- 3:32that we need and deserve. Mine, yeah.
- 3:36It made me tear up. And at a moment that was doing
- 3:39something that I've been asking for for a very long time.
- 3:41Which is really incredible. You.
- 3:44Oh so you are really happy about what that event was?
- 3:49I felt rage and no longer wished that I had helped others to keep
- 3:56that person alive during this raid tear.
- 3:58Oh, I cannot possibly disagree more.
- 4:00And we can we. I I wanted, I wish.
- 4:03I see now I really do wish that we'd read the book before the
- 4:06episode with Live Laugh lore because I want to fight about
- 4:09it, but. I because we want to.
- 4:11Major support because the book completely redeems everything I
- 4:14said. I cannot possibly.
- 4:16Disagree. There's not.
- 4:18I do want to include the audience in Sorry.
- 4:22I do want to clue the audience in.
- 4:24If you want to know what in the world these guys are talking
- 4:26about. Sean was on one side of a debate
- 4:30and Lex was joined with Ali from Live Laugh Floor on another side
- 4:33of debate where they decided or at least argued the morality,
- 4:40the nature of Keralian, if he was a good guy, a bad guy, soon
- 4:44to be villain batted or not. And that is a YouTube exclusive.
- 4:49So make sure that you do check out the YouTube if you want to
- 4:52go through that. And maybe based on replies
- 4:56there, you guys could do a follow up now that you've read
- 4:58the book, because it seems like you guys have a lot more to say.
- 5:02But with that, let's talk about some of the stuff happening
- 5:07well, not in game, but soon to be coming to the game because
- 5:12the hour is closer than you know.
- 5:14As Sean said in our final live episode before the holiday
- 5:20break, January 20th is the pre patch.
- 5:24And with the pre patch, major changes are coming to the World
- 5:28of Warcraft. That includes, of course, the
- 5:32changes to the API. That includes the stat squish
- 5:36and Blizzard has come out the eve of Christmas Eve to let us
- 5:43know a couple of things that are going to be going away with the
- 5:47pre expansion patch. That includes no longer being
- 5:51able to earn AOTC or Cutting Edge.
- 5:56That includes that the Mythic Plus leaderboards will get
- 6:00locked in and the titles will be awarded and PvP as well.
- 6:07Those leaderboards will get locked in as well and that
- 6:10season will come to a close. I thought I was going to be top
- 6:13of the PvP leaderboards, damn it.
- 6:17You have still some time, Lex, to make your surge to the top.
- 6:21How close are you, Lex? I'm like so close man.
- 6:25Like I I I'm basically number one of the PvP.
- 6:29Could you give me just an example of a score that you
- 6:32think is close? I, I would worry that if I said
- 6:3601 that I think is close. I I don't know man, like.
- 6:40She would embarrass all the other keeping peers so they
- 6:42would give up hope and loose heart.
- 6:48I love it, I love it. It had all of the energy of
- 6:51Hello fellow kids. I play with players, therefore
- 6:57are we not doing I guess I'm not verses I love them.
- 7:00They're my best friend. I could never do player versus
- 7:02player. I my number one sorry.
- 7:05I'll let you guys actually talk about actual World of Warcraft
- 7:07things, but one of my earliest World of Warcraft memories was
- 7:10when I happened upon a horde player while I was Alliance and
- 7:13like we spent like probably 2 hours just like a modding at
- 7:17each other anyway. Not fighting, just like dance
- 7:21battling. No, literally, that's where I
- 7:23learned. About the essence of PvP and
- 7:27that horde. That horde player got to say
- 7:29like I survived an encounter with Lex rance #1 rated PVV
- 7:35player. She decided of all the hoardies
- 7:38to let me live, and that person will go down in legend.
- 7:42I'm not. You're not merciful.
- 7:44Also coming to its conclusion is Legion Remix, so if you are
- 7:49chasing down any trans mug, any of the mounts, any of the
- 7:54rewards that you can get out of there, you now have less than as
- 7:59of the recording of the show. 10 days before we are out of Remix,
- 8:05all of your characters that are in there will be converted to
- 8:10standardized characters. The standard character and all
- 8:16of the amounts will only be available at their like 1% drop
- 8:20chances or some not at all. So make sure you're doing that.
- 8:25Any of the decor that is currently only available in
- 8:28Legion will get shifted on to a new vendor, but the costs are
- 8:34apparently going to be quite higher, so you may want to put
- 8:40in that time. The last thing that we have is
- 8:44of course along with the stat squish that is going to be in
- 8:48there, Wowhead has reported on some data mining.
- 8:52This data mining is heavy nerves to our current raid, which is
- 9:01getting on top of the stat squish, A 40% overall damage
- 9:07reduction, as well as some targeted but not really
- 9:12fine-tuned nerves to a lot of the burst damage, a lot of the
- 9:17Dots, a lot of the timing to a point where some people may find
- 9:23that this content is going to be laughable compared to what it
- 9:26was that they were proxy against up until the free patch.
- 9:31So what do you guys think of this?
- 9:34We'll throw this to you first, Sean.
- 9:38I think we need to wait until it's live before we say how
- 9:44heavy the nerfs are. We are, yeah.
- 9:49We still don't know how exactly how classes are going to feel
- 9:53post stat squish and class redesign.
- 9:57A lot of classes are losing functionality that they have
- 10:01now. For example, protection paladins
- 10:03which got heavy play on Dementius for their ability to
- 10:06get 100% spell block, no longer have the ability to get 100%
- 10:11spell block. So if you are a prop paladin who
- 10:15takes all of the cosmic smashes from Dementius, you're going to
- 10:18have to come up with a new solution for that, potentially
- 10:19for your defensives because you can no longer 100% spell block
- 10:23those. So they are big an extra 40%
- 10:27nerf, but we'll see. We'll see how it looks when it
- 10:33goes live. The fractalist changes as well,
- 10:34I don't think are enough. They're changing it from 8
- 10:40seconds, sorry, from they're they're changing it from 7
- 10:45seconds to get to your lane, to hit your to create your walls to
- 10:5110 seconds. And I don't know that that's
- 10:55enough time. We'll see.
- 10:58We'll see. It'll be I don't know anybody
- 11:02who's even going to pull Fractus.
- 11:03I mean, maybe some of the top teams will, but there's no point
- 11:05for a lot of teams to it is hopefully enough, but it does
- 11:08show that they are at least aware that hey, we need to make
- 11:11some some changes. And I think it also speaks to
- 11:16what we can expect going into midnight.
- 11:19If you think of the current raid tier that we have now.
- 11:23And if if they're before a single attack has been made,
- 11:28saying, hey, we need to reduce this damage by 40% more.
- 11:34I think it speaks to like a huge change in design philosophy
- 11:38going into midnight, right? Like they have made characters
- 11:42significantly weaker. If this is what's needed for us
- 11:45to be able to clear, I don't think this is going to allow
- 11:47players to to walk through and face roll.
- 11:49I think this is going to make it just doable, but we'll see.
- 11:53Definitely see it goes in line with the changes that we've seen
- 11:56to healers and the changes that we've seen to defensives.
- 12:00Like it you just across the board defensives have been a
- 12:04subject of being paired back and healers part way through the
- 12:10beta. They did a lot to like remove a
- 12:13lot of the passive healing and it takes a bit longer like far
- 12:18longer than what we are used to on live to get those health bars
- 12:21topped up. So when you look at these
- 12:23changes to to like even the Dots where they're like, OK, like if
- 12:27it's a fast dot, like that 0.5 tick dot that got nerfed to 80%,
- 12:33right? If it's somewhat longer or
- 12:37rather slower taking dot, they've lengthened the length of
- 12:40it or like the in total duration of it, but they still reduce the
- 12:45damage so that healers have more time to react.
- 12:48There's less cooldowns that healers have to like constantly
- 12:51just be like, OK, we're going to yo-yo, your health back back up
- 12:54there. So it may be you're right that
- 12:57it's just reflecting the reality that damage intake has to come
- 13:01down by this amount to reflect the capabilities of healers and
- 13:06to not have of that kind of yo-yo health that we have been
- 13:09experiencing in the war within, especially in this last season.
- 13:12So. And now there's no way to know
- 13:14if you have a dot. So when the pre patch comes out
- 13:17because we have no debuff filtering.
- 13:20So it's great that we have 10 seconds on the Fractalist fight
- 13:25to get into our lanes, but we also now have lost the number
- 13:30one way to know if you even have the debuff to move to put it in
- 13:34the lane because you can't pull those those raid busty busts out
- 13:38separate. So we'll see, yeah.
- 13:42Yeah. So some significant nerves, this
- 13:46might be the new reality based on what healers need, what the
- 13:51defensives that we have give players the ability to.
- 13:55So this might be tuned somewhat in the ballpark of player
- 14:00capability, but that is a very nebulous target with how quickly
- 14:06the the tunings have been on the beta for both classes and for
- 14:12and for their relative defensiveness.
- 14:15So I think you're right, John, I think that we were likely to see
- 14:19additional tuning to some pain points that they didn't foresee,
- 14:23but it's really good that they have made some adjustments.
- 14:28One thing that we had, we haven't actually seen on any of
- 14:32these adjustments or any changes to Mythic Plus.
- 14:38And I think that there's going to have to be something in there
- 14:43because we're still dealing with like the interrupt reality of
- 14:49War Within with the packs, but we're suddenly going to be
- 14:55healers without interrupts and the new changes there and the
- 14:59coordination that will now need to be done accordingly.
- 15:02So I, I think I'm more worried about the music plus after the
- 15:0820th then I am the raid. And I do want to say something
- 15:14that Lex said while we are on a quick little break is that it is
- 15:17not ten days until Legion. Until this hits, it is 13 days,
- 15:22which is a ginormous, fantastically huge number.
- 15:27It's like almost 50% more, I guess it's pretty much exactly
- 15:3030% more. Yes, definitely 30% more.
- 15:33But you know what, your rounding may vary. 30 to almost 50
- 15:38depending on how you're rounding.
- 15:40OK, that zoomer math, we're doing some of that zoomer math.
- 15:44This is why you guys can't afford houses, Lex.
- 15:46This is why we have AI to get that zoomer math that makes
- 15:49sense. But I do want to quickly also
- 15:53say to the issues that the actual World of Warcraft we're
- 15:57talking about. I think that's a really good
- 16:00point with the mythic plus issue, especially because Mythic
- 16:04plus, like if you're doing like if, if you're feeling the need
- 16:07to still kind of try to catch up in preparation of midnight,
- 16:12Mythic plus is what you'd be doing, right?
- 16:13Because you're still getting gear right.
- 16:15You're getting a little bit of gear from rating.
- 16:18But by and large, once the AOTC is gone, maybe I'm just an
- 16:21AOCAOTC chaser. And so to me, once AOTC is gone,
- 16:26rating is just a little like frankly, I would I think Ollie
- 16:30old rage should be face rolls. I think that's fun.
- 16:32I think it's fun that you get to go in and boom, and all of a
- 16:34sudden Jane is down. Like I think that's I picked the
- 16:37worst boss because she has faces.
- 16:39But you know what I mean, right, like that's that's the joy of
- 16:41raiding an archaic patch. So I don't have any issues with
- 16:46them nerfing the life out of that because in my AOTC chasing
- 16:50opinion sick now you get everything rolls over for you.
- 16:56But mythic plus is I I know there's some people who would be
- 16:59still wanting the gear and the prep so that they're able to get
- 17:03to the point in like so once they're getting into midnight,
- 17:06it's easier. Not me.
- 17:07I don't I'm it's it's mess around time in Lex land.
- 17:11I've done everything I need to do.
- 17:12It's time to vibe. But my understanding is that
- 17:16there are some people who are like good at the game and want
- 17:18to go into midnight with good gear.
- 17:20So I would imagine that them struggling with mythic plus is
- 17:23going to hurt more than them not being able to or them struggling
- 17:27with rate in general if if they've switched which ones they
- 17:30wanted to put the the nerves on. Yeah, it's there's also people
- 17:34who just like dungeons, they like Mythic Plus, and they play
- 17:36it for fun. Crazy.
- 17:39I don't believe that. Is there's a 0% chance I will do
- 17:42a dungeon between January 20th and the start of midnight?
- 17:46I just, I, I won't because I expect that it's going to be a
- 17:50casserole of nonsense and my concern, but it's not just for
- 17:54the people who enjoy it, but it's for people who are
- 17:56returning and getting ready for midnight.
- 17:59And if Mythic Plus is a dog's breakfast for those people, then
- 18:04that could potentially turn them off of even trying it in
- 18:06midnight. And that like they, it's, I
- 18:11don't think we can afford to roll the dice and say good luck,
- 18:15dungeon runners. I think something needs to be
- 18:17done and I believe they will. There there's the Blizzard dev
- 18:22team has been doing this for a very long time.
- 18:24They know what they're doing. They know what the play race is
- 18:27doing. They will address Mythic Plus in
- 18:30some fashion. There's no world where they
- 18:32don't. If we go between now and
- 18:34midnight and there's no change to current Mythic plus to
- 18:37account for this wish, I'll quit podcasting, which is going to
- 18:46suck because I do it for a living.
- 18:50That's how confident I am. We're going to get changed.
- 18:52And that's fair that we're that was this is a little doomery
- 18:56because it's not even like World of Warcraft said, these are the
- 18:59things that we are doing in preparation for the midnight pre
- 19:02patch. It was data mine.
- 19:03So it's possible they just haven't, you know, put the I
- 19:07don't know how coding. For it might be in the next
- 19:09build like so like there's there's still time.
- 19:13Well, yeah, maybe, maybe the release candidate.
- 19:19Such a change the release candidate patch.
- 19:21Is already loaded though. Yeah, but such a change would be
- 19:24like set up to be hit hot fix when it when it went through.
- 19:28Yeah, yeah, with that. Said I don't want to quit
- 19:34podcasting, so surely it will happen.
- 19:36Fast Dev, if you make Sean quit podcasting, who will I even
- 19:41snark with? No, no, no, that can't happen.
- 19:43Yeah, this would be a snarkless show.
- 19:47OK, so then John, let's get into as much of your podcasting in
- 19:52while we still have you. You want to cover the next
- 19:55subject. Yeah, we got some Mythic Plus
- 19:59dungeon tuning on the midnight beta.
- 20:02There was a blue post that came out yesterday or the day before
- 20:06January 6th it looks like. So yesterday to say hey gang, we
- 20:11don't have a new build for you yet.
- 20:13Now, incidentally. As we are recording this, Algol
- 20:16on the Observer has pointed out that there is a new vendor build
- 20:21on Wow 3 right now. Like it went out 15 minutes ago.
- 20:24That is a more current version of or a newer version of beta.
- 20:31So there is a new build now. I anticipate servers will be
- 20:34brought down soon to to push this and then we'll get dev
- 20:39notes. But there is a new build out and
- 20:45oh, why? And they did.
- 20:48So they've, they've opened up until then, they've opened up
- 20:51all eight of the dungeons. They said, hey, welcome back
- 20:53from Christmas. Now, a lot of folks wish that
- 20:55this had happened before the Christmas break, that we would
- 20:58have had two weeks of unfettered access to all eight of the
- 21:02dungeons to test them as opposed to just 4.
- 21:04But we didn't. We do now, though, we have all 8
- 21:07dungeons available. And there is in those dungeons
- 21:11targeted tuning to the Ick and Crick fight.
- 21:14This fight has gotten more adjustments than any other
- 21:17fights, I think in the next season.
- 21:20And it's probably because it was awful when it first came out and
- 21:24they're attempting to rectify some of those pain points.
- 21:27Initially, they went by initially, the first things they
- 21:30did was to to reduce some of the damage to see if that helped it.
- 21:33And people were like this. And the problem isn't the
- 21:35damage, it's the frequency of the casts, the number of the
- 21:38casts, that's the problem. And in this tuning pass, they've
- 21:42changed that and they've adjusted the frequency of
- 21:44abilities happening and then ratcheted back up some of the
- 21:47damage to account for the fact that they're happening less
- 21:50often. So the fight might be better.
- 21:54I haven't gone and tested myself, but it this post better
- 21:58addresses the issues with the Ick and Crick fight, which was
- 22:02just how often all of the stuff was happening, and I expect that
- 22:08we'll see similar targeted tuning to some of the other
- 22:11dungeons as we get closer to Midnight.
- 22:14While the pre patch is launching January 20th, Midnight doesn't
- 22:18launch until February 27th and early access.
- 22:20So they do still have some time to make changes to the dungeons
- 22:25to get them in a good spot, and hopefully they continue to do
- 22:29so. Beyond, I just apologize, sorry.
- 22:40Beyond the fine tuning that they've put in for those those
- 22:45dungeons and those particular bosses are, what would you say
- 22:49are other dungeons that should be looked at?
- 22:53All of them have too many casters still in my opinion.
- 22:58So look at that would be 1 and then I think it was those are
- 23:04the Mysara cavern. Mysara caverns are narrow like
- 23:08one of the troll ones. It's the visuals are just green
- 23:14and you have to like activate tributes to some in Aloha and
- 23:19there's not enough tributes to activate that.
- 23:21You can avoid doing the fishing tribute where you have to stop
- 23:26in the middle of the dungeon and fish that can't go live in
- 23:32mythic plus like that. There can't be a section in my
- 23:36mythic plus where I have to fish.
- 23:39So either increase the number of tributes available or decrease
- 23:43the number required because that's ridiculous.
- 23:47I. Think that's.
- 23:49Cute. I think that's fun.
- 23:50What makes? It different than like a role
- 23:51play boss. We don't want those either, Lex
- 23:54we we actively dislike role play, and that gets frequently
- 23:58removed or reduced. That's fair, but I think it's.
- 24:01Something that's fine in Mythic Zero.
- 24:03I think it is something that should be avoided in any timed
- 24:06run. Like what's what's the game plan
- 24:09there that you 4 man the rest of the dungeon while you've got the
- 24:145th man fishing to like just beat it along?
- 24:16Yeah, your healer fishes while you do another pull.
- 24:19Yeah, like 6. I can finally just.
- 24:20Degenerate finally put off. Yeah, it it encourages
- 24:24degenerate play in order to circumvent what is basically a
- 24:27time sink. Yeah, OK.
- 24:30All right. With that said, oh.
- 24:33And fix all the healers. Sorry that's my last one that's
- 24:37not dungeon specific. But the healers are not happy,
- 24:39Rick. You're talking about players as
- 24:41healers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, OK.
- 24:44Like no classes, the classes as healers.
- 24:47Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not they're not.
- 24:48They're not the dungeons that are healing OK.
- 24:50No, no, no, no, no. The players.
- 24:52Yeah, the players. Got it.
- 24:54OK. Yeah, I I think that goes back
- 24:57to your rate frames for the majority of things.
- 25:04Should we talk about the rumor? What rumor?
- 25:10The there was a rumor that started going around.
- 25:14No, we shouldn't. We shouldn't.
- 25:17No, I feel like. You guys literally have to
- 25:19message this to me on discord if we're not going to talk about
- 25:21it. I don't know what's going on.
- 25:23Yeah, I'll, I'll let this out and we'll move on, OK?
- 25:28I think we should leave in where we decide not to talk about the
- 25:31rumour so people can ask what rumour.
- 25:33I'm going to leave it in the video.
- 25:34I'm even going to leave this part in the video where I say we
- 25:36should leave it in the audio. OK, fine.
- 25:39We're leaving it in. Sean, do you want to give us the
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- 26:54record it and I did but then I reformatted my entire PC and put
- 26:59a new Windows build on and deleted it so now it will only
- 27:02ever live for those two. It was the coronine and epidemi
- 27:07for Azeroth special. So now if you want like, the
- 27:10story of my wow love life, you'll have to go to those two
- 27:13or or Lex and her brush with, like, the dark arts.
- 27:18Yeah. It's not at all a game of
- 27:20telephone to find out why Lex was banging corpses.
- 27:26No, that's completely not what happened, but if you want to
- 27:30know the true story, go ahead and jump in the fast discord and
- 27:35Lex can defend herself, but we are going to move on from it.
- 27:39Corpse banging Lex, that's what we call her in the For Azeroth
- 27:42private channel. No CBL.
- 27:51Manny is going to message like all of the devs he knows and be
- 27:55like you guys. You.
- 27:57Cannot fix Mythic plus between now and midnight because I need
- 28:01Shawn to drop out. I feel like you're projecting
- 28:04Lex, the old Cpl. Why don't you take cover Transmo
- 28:08changes. Old Cpl. projecting again.
- 28:13Let's do it. So kids, we're going to get
- 28:15major revamp to transmog surprise, surprise.
- 28:18And that means everything is money and money is scary.
- 28:21We get it. So let's talk about it.
- 28:23So there's going to be a big revamp to the transmod system.
- 28:26This has not been one of the things we've talked about a lot
- 28:28because there's been so much going on and basically every
- 28:31show has been like a drinking water hose.
- 28:34But let's let's get a little a little thing we missed.
- 28:36So when in the new system, each slot can be trans item slot can
- 28:42be transmod to a different appearance as part of an outfit,
- 28:45right? So an outfit is now if like the
- 28:47full body everything, you retain the look of your chosen outfits
- 28:51when you replace your gear. So this means if you're doing
- 28:53the thing where you're rating and you get like a new hat, you
- 28:57don't suddenly have like a cute little outfit and a Big Blue
- 28:59blazy, nasty, horrible thing on top of your head, right.
- 29:01So when you change things out, as long as you're in a certain
- 29:03outfit, you keep it when you're saving.
- 29:07Saving that outfit is going to cost a certain amount of gold
- 29:10based on the number of slots that are trans transmogrified as
- 29:14well as your character's level. Once you save an outfit, you can
- 29:19switch between outfits with no cost and a three second cool
- 29:22down. And am I correct?
- 29:25Other people that do Like do I still I still need like a
- 29:30transmog toy or thing out right? I can't just like no.
- 29:33No, no. You can pull each outfit down to
- 29:36your hot bar if you want and just go back and forth anywhere.
- 29:40You do need a transmog thing to to set the outfit though.
- 29:45OK, but I I once I'm like I can just like swap it out like
- 29:48between bosses in a raid. OK, sick.
- 29:52Everyone's going to start with two outfit slots and additional
- 29:55outfit slots. And I want to remind everyone
- 29:57quick no, as we discussed and outfits the whole thing, right?
- 30:01It's not like slots in an outfit that we're talking about here,
- 30:04so. There's the gear slots, and then
- 30:06there is the outfit, which you can save a particular outfit in
- 30:10an outfit slot. Yes, yes.
- 30:13So we have two basically, you can pick, you can build 2 full
- 30:17outfits. The cost of the so you're still
- 30:23going to have to pay a little bit to save it, but you have two
- 30:26outfits in. I'm sorry, I fully lost my train
- 30:29of reading. You have two outfit slots and
- 30:34additional outfit slots can be purchased with the price of each
- 30:37subsequent slot in a non linear fashion.
- 30:39The way they love to do it right where you're buying the slots
- 30:41and they change drastically in price.
- 30:44So on the beta, this is not locked in on the beta, the third
- 30:48outfit slot is going to cost you 3.
- 30:50Sorry 100 gold and then the 50th outfit slot costs 10,000 gold.
- 30:53So that's what we're talking about right?
- 30:54It's not like every single. One you missed a zero 100,000
- 30:58gold. Yeah, 100,000.
- 31:00That's a more reasonable number. Less reasonable.
- 31:04Less reasonable by far, I think, if you've.
- 31:06Gotten 50 outfits? It's OK for it to cost 100,000
- 31:10gold. That's a lot of outfits.
- 31:12Yeah, except that it's not just the 50th that costs 100,000
- 31:16gold, the non linear fashion. Is that like the first little
- 31:19bit like goes like 100, then 150, then 300, then 500 and then
- 31:24there's like a little bit of a plateau for for a little bit,
- 31:27it'll be like all your outfits will cost 250 and then it'll
- 31:30jump again. And then the last like couple of
- 31:33slots all cost 100K each. So as you're going for like like
- 31:37454647484950, that's like 500K gold that you're going to.
- 31:43Blow say, I think that is. Reasonable.
- 31:47This may be a hot take. I might be ugly, and it might
- 31:49just be that I cannot think of more than like, 3 outfits at a
- 31:51time, but that makes sense. Like, yeah, if, if, if it's, you
- 31:56know, at the very, very top end. I don't know.
- 31:58I mean, there's an argument for me that all this should be free
- 32:00because what, does it really harm anyone if I get a million
- 32:03cute outfits? But there's also, I think if
- 32:06you've gotten if, if, if you are so committed to the game that
- 32:09you have like over 45 outfits, you probably also have quite a
- 32:13bit of gold. That's my my guess.
- 32:15But what? Do I know?
- 32:16I, I there's just a couple of things I want to clarify.
- 32:20Oh, please do so that it's super clear for everybody.
- 32:24It's just some terminology changes that happened.
- 32:27Also, I'm pretty sure you only get one outfit slot for free and
- 32:29the rest start costing immediately.
- 32:32On the beta as of today. I'm sorry there's a new build
- 32:35out. Who knows what'll happen when I
- 32:37log in later tonight. But as of earlier today, 2
- 32:41outfits by default on all characters.
- 32:45OK, yeah, that changed since last week then, because it was
- 32:50only ever the first slot. You you sure you didn't buy one
- 32:54and forgot? OK, like like.
- 32:57Never touched the transmog before.
- 32:59Going on to make the show notes today.
- 33:00Make to make sure that I was verifying what was what.
- 33:03OK, very cool, but I so it's just some terminology changes.
- 33:06Right now in retail in the game you can design AAA transmog
- 33:13outfit and save it in our outfit slots and you can have up to 20
- 33:19per character of these saved outfits.
- 33:21It costs you nothing to design it.
- 33:23This is like when you do shift P and you open up transmog and
- 33:26then you use control and Click to put it on your character in
- 33:30the character pane and then you save it as an outfit that still
- 33:35exists but that is now called custom sets.
- 33:39So what you know now as outfits, which are the free to make and
- 33:44design and save transmogs, those still exists.
- 33:49They're now called custom sets. The new outfits that Lexus has
- 33:55been talking about is this new slot that you buy up to 50 of
- 34:01and once you lock a custom set into an outfit slot, it costs
- 34:08you nothing to train change back into it.
- 34:12So you, you unlock the slot for 100 gold or whatever the price
- 34:15is. You unlock the slot, then you
- 34:17pay your up to 2000 gold to, you know, depending if you're
- 34:22wearing cloth or plate, you know, and everywhere in between
- 34:24the up to 2000 gold to transmog your custom set into that outfit
- 34:29slot. So to change each of the slots
- 34:32and then you if you change nothing else from that point,
- 34:34you never have to pay again. And whenever you change your
- 34:38armor, it automatically changes to that saved outfit set.
- 34:43So you're not a lot of people are really confused because
- 34:48Blizzard used the term outfit to describe these slots.
- 34:52And everybody now when they hear outfit, they think these free
- 34:56slots where I can design things that it costs me nothing.
- 34:59So they've all lost their minds. You are losing no functionality
- 35:07and only gaming functionality. So what you do if you never want
- 35:12to buy a trans mux? If you never want to buy an
- 35:14outfit slot ever, and you just want to create custom sets and
- 35:18then pay to equip them whenever you want, you can still do that.
- 35:25And if you want to change just your hat, you can change just
- 35:28your hat on that outfit slot from a custom set, so you can
- 35:32still play the game the exact way you play it now, where you
- 35:35pay every time you change a transmog set.
- 35:41You just wouldn't unlock any other outfits is what you're
- 35:44saying. You just have one or the 2.
- 35:46Exactly, don't ever unlock an outfit slot.
- 35:49I mean, you're not going to get any value from the scenarios.
- 35:51Which lets us about to talk about and it's going to be
- 35:54foolish to I don't know why you would not I would I would I will
- 35:58want a custom I will want an outfit slot for almost all of my
- 36:02custom sets so that I can just change to them freely, but.
- 36:06You will still get some advantages from this any
- 36:09especially at the beginning of the expansion when we're running
- 36:12through zones and we're getting new gear and so by the time we
- 36:16hit like level cap, we're back in the clown suit as it were.
- 36:20That doesn't happen anymore in midnight.
- 36:22You mean what if I want to be ugly?
- 36:24I guarantee you. Can spend the goal to.
- 36:27Do somebody's going to come on the comments of this video or on
- 36:30Spotify and they're going to say, I like that at the end of
- 36:33the leveling up, I look like a hodgepodge of what I did while I
- 36:36was leveling. Why are they ruining that here?
- 36:39It is how you do it. Then if you want to be in the
- 36:41the hodgepodge thing, there is a option in this system for you to
- 36:49ignore non transmog slots so that they will show the original
- 36:55appearance. You can save that as one of your
- 36:59outfits have that equipped and it will have 0 effect on you
- 37:04right? You will be in full clown show
- 37:07glory if that is what you so choose.
- 37:09So even the people who want to come at us for that you are
- 37:12covered by by Blizzard. Congratulations, next angry
- 37:16comment. No.
- 37:19You actually didn't need to Lex. You really actually did not need
- 37:22to continue talking about the the system though.
- 37:27Let's talk about situations. So one of the coolest things
- 37:30about this new system in my clearly unbiased opinion, I
- 37:32don't know why I said like, yes, I actually am unbiased.
- 37:35It's not like I'm getting paid for this anyway.
- 37:37Is that now your outfits change in situations or you can make it
- 37:41so that your outfits switch in situations.
- 37:43So these are things that they can be set to trigger based on
- 37:47location. They can be set to trigger based
- 37:48on movement, based on spec choice and based on equipment
- 37:51sets. So if you, for example, want
- 37:55like every time, what I'm probably going to be doing with
- 37:57this is like when I walk into my house, I want to be in a cute
- 37:59little house outfit. And then when I go into raid,
- 38:02I'm in my bad ass raid outfit. But you can also set it so you
- 38:05know, when you're switching specs, you have your tank
- 38:07outfit, you have your healer outfit.
- 38:10In this world, I guess we're playing a druid or you can also
- 38:14set it to equipment set. So if you have different like
- 38:17you know, I personally can't imagine, I guess yeah, if you.
- 38:21Have this is the one that hits me the most because I will have
- 38:25an equipment set that is like set up for more haste if I'm
- 38:30doing a single target or more mastery if I'm doing an AOE
- 38:34thing or the trinkets will also swap right?
- 38:37And if the gear a parent swap so I can like look at my hair and
- 38:42be like, oh wait, I'm running into this mythic plus and I am
- 38:45not in my mythic plus AOE set. Regardless of of how different
- 38:52that is in terms of gear. That would save me a lot of
- 38:58stupid pulls. I will be very happy for that.
- 39:02That is actually Manny, you are actually a genius for that
- 39:05because I was not fully understanding why equipments
- 39:07that transmog outfits would be beneficial.
- 39:09But like that you might have also saved our raid quite a few
- 39:13bad nights and like whispering people like hello you appear to
- 39:17have a fishing pole equipped, do you want to not do that anymore?
- 39:22Yeah, or even going between like raid bosses, like make sure
- 39:25everybody's got their their cleave set put together and you
- 39:29just look across the room and you're like, Sean, I know that
- 39:32Viking set is your single target set.
- 39:34Come on, come on. Let's let's switch off the God
- 39:37of War. Let's get you into your your AOE
- 39:40spec, one of my. Favorite things about this rate
- 39:45or the the this podcast is that I learned these amazing things
- 39:48that are proof of what a bad player I am because you guys
- 39:51have different gear sets for Klee versus single target.
- 39:55Like obviously you have different talents.
- 39:58OK, so I'm bad at the game. Sometimes you will like
- 40:01definitely for mythic plus versus versus like a raid single
- 40:05target. There might be overlap between
- 40:08like an AOE cleave, like it's it's very unlikely that you'll
- 40:14have particular gear that will benefit you in a cleave
- 40:19situation but not an AOE situation.
- 40:22Like it's just not really designed that way.
- 40:24But having it linked also because you can have your gear
- 40:27sets linked to your talents, which then therefore changes
- 40:30your your the look of your customization.
- 40:33So even if the gear is the same because it's linked to your
- 40:36talents, you will get that visual notification.
- 40:39Just check your gear. I'll at the beginning of any
- 40:42fight anyways, but still nice way of catching yourself.
- 40:46It's usually just trinkets, but like I have my prop paladin has
- 40:50a there's a shaman in the group set and there's not a shaman in
- 40:53the group set because I need different mastery break points
- 40:56to hit 100% block chance based on whether or not I have sky
- 40:59fury. So if I have a shaman I can add
- 41:03more crit and if I don't have a shaman I can I have to add more
- 41:07mastery? I used to do that with symbiosis
- 41:09all the time. Like if my druid was like going
- 41:13to hit the put the symbiosis on me.
- 41:14It's like sweet, switch, switch trinkets play a little
- 41:17differently. I'm going to go nuts.
- 41:19But Lex, you're right, that's a competitive advantage that we
- 41:22have. So I think to balance this out,
- 41:24they should not allow us to change gear ever.
- 41:32I thought you were being too nice earlier.
- 41:33You're like, well, there's no way that the devs will forget to
- 41:37do that. I will stop podcasting if that
- 41:39happens. I'm like, oh.
- 41:42If you guys secretly want to quit podcasting, Manny, you
- 41:44don't know on my journey. Or you can do what I'm going to
- 41:52do with the outfits and you can be cute in different situations.
- 41:54Oh, I'm going to do a little both.
- 41:56I have definitely bought into this housing scheme so I will
- 42:00have my lay about the house outfit for sure.
- 42:04Yeah, it's going to be. Funny what I actually do in real
- 42:07life when I walk into my house and I don't even fully
- 42:09understand how I got into sweatpants when I'm just in
- 42:11sweatpants and I'm like all right, sick.
- 42:14Lex walks the door, spins around, little magical swirlies
- 42:17go and she's in sweatpants. I'm a SIM.
- 42:21Also, what they're doing in the game, that's probably what they
- 42:23came they got the idea from. Oh yeah.
- 42:27Yeah, definitely. OK.
- 42:29Yeah, the, the take away from all of this news is this is only
- 42:33positive. This is this Transmox system is
- 42:36only positive if you hate it. If you are determined to hate it
- 42:40and you really just want to keep paying gold to change your sets
- 42:43every time you do something different, you can and the gold
- 42:46price is comparable to what it is now.
- 42:49So you don't have to be angry with the Transmox system because
- 42:51you you don't have to engage with it at all if you don't want
- 42:53to. Absolutely the exact same.
- 42:55I like when I was doing testing for my level lady character on
- 42:59beta versus my level lady character on live changing a
- 43:03single item. But in this case, I was testing
- 43:05weapons from one thing to that's exactly the same you're you're
- 43:10down nothing. You're only getting more
- 43:12options. Blizzard, this is AW thank you.
- 43:15I can't wait for it to come into play.
- 43:17And to those people who hate it, Congrats.
- 43:20You also don't have to engage with it, so W for you 2.
- 43:23You're welcome. Good guy Blizzard winning with
- 43:26the trans muck changes. But wait, you guys didn't answer
- 43:28my question. So what if I want like a really
- 43:30nice outfit but like 2 pieces are just completely messy in the
- 43:34middle of raid? What if I want to get
- 43:35significantly uglier the longer I raid?
- 43:39Just look at your damage meter I guess.
- 43:41Oh. Hell yeah.
- 43:46I did not test Lexi, you've you've stumped me.
- 43:49I did not test if you can change outfits in the middle of combat.
- 43:53With the with the bug, no way I don't I.
- 43:56I, I don't know, but like you know what, I didn't test it so I
- 43:59can't say for certain. Yeah.
- 44:02Listers let me know if you are testing on the beta.
- 44:06Just just switch outfits in the middle.
- 44:09Let me know if it's possible. Oh, you can also, of course,
- 44:13name them and put the icon on them as you can with your custom
- 44:16sets. Yeah, sorry.
- 44:18Your outfits, as they're called on live custom sets, as they're
- 44:23called when midnight hits. And then of course, sets, which
- 44:27have always been a thing. I, I think I like that
- 44:29nomenclature better because sets and custom sets are really close
- 44:33together and it just explains what you're, you're doing with
- 44:35it. We didn't.
- 44:36Love that, that's so true. But I think that's going to be
- 44:45it for us today. We will definitely be reporting
- 44:47on the new build if there are some goodies in there on the
- 44:51next episode. And yeah, make sure that you are
- 44:55tuned in because we will have more stuff coming in the new
- 45:00year. Until next time, though, may all
- 45:02your hits be goods.