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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 236 | Unpacking Preseason Opener vs. Saints · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to jags Am as all of us.
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Speaker 2: Are getting into the preseason here. As you can see,
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Speaker 2: we're back out on the practice field. You can hear
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Speaker 2: it too as we get ready for another week of
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Speaker 2: training camp. But now we have a preseason game to
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Speaker 2: talk about because the Saints and the Jags played in
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Speaker 2: the Superdome. They also to joint practice in New Orleans
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Speaker 2: last week that we're going to recap for you as well.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back into jag Zam. I'm Kaanni Stevens. We're in
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Speaker 2: the outdoor version of the Hundai Studios, Brian Sex and
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Speaker 2: John Osier with me, and we got to see a
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Speaker 2: little bit of football, if we want to call preseason
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Speaker 2: football that, but we also got to see some good
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Speaker 2: action in joint training camp.
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Speaker 3: It was fun, right, I mean I told everybody that
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Speaker 3: I talked to yesterday that it's preseason football, and it's
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Speaker 3: tough to say it was great because people don't like
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Speaker 3: preseason football. But the game from twenty to six at
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Speaker 3: the half to twenty four to twenty, it was fun.
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Speaker 3: It was fun. The way that it ended. It was fun.
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Speaker 3: The way that Liam Colinch running down the sideline trying
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Speaker 3: to get the time out and thenning immediately. I mean
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Speaker 3: just put one hand up when he saw I ha,
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Speaker 3: I don't want that after all. So it was fun
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Speaker 3: and football is fun. It's great to be back.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he has the right perspective on preseason, meaning, hey,
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Speaker 4: I try to get the time out. We got the win.
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Speaker 4: It's fine whenever we move on. I actually got a
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Speaker 4: question in the ozone. I guess it was yesterday, John,
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Speaker 4: I just have to believe that the mistakes will get
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Speaker 4: ironed out. Well, yeah, here's why backups are backups because
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Speaker 4: they're not as good as the starters, so it will
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Speaker 4: look better when the starters are back out there. Don't
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Speaker 4: panic over the regular season about what went on on Saturday.
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Speaker 4: And no matter how many times and years we say that,
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Speaker 4: you still get people panicking.
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Speaker 5: I got an email during the game reality check.
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Speaker 3: No, it's not it's not to play off of that.
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Speaker 5: I had.
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Speaker 3: Someone asked me yesterday, what do you what did you think?
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Speaker 3: What am I supposed to do?
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Speaker 5: I thought it's time to go home.
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Speaker 3: I mean, what do you how do you evaluate the team?
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Speaker 3: You know, big picture? Based on that little picture of
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Speaker 3: backups and guys who were fighting for jobs. I said,
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Speaker 3: did you have fun. Did you enjoyed? He goes, yeah.
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Speaker 3: I go, well, that's all you should need to know. Oh,
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Speaker 3: so here's what you look for.
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Speaker 4: You look for flashes of guys who look like, oh,
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Speaker 4: they're gonna be able to do this. And every time
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Speaker 4: I stay with people go well.
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Speaker 5: What about the best?
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Speaker 3: And what the best?
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Speaker 5: So they're gonna wa Yeah, they're not gonna have on
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Speaker 5: the team.
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Speaker 3: You can't evaluate it.
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Speaker 4: They're looking for things that will work. They're looking for growth. Uh,
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Speaker 4: so we'll get to that.
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Speaker 3: Preseasons different.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's go over our big things.
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Speaker 2: We touched on some of them already, but we had
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Speaker 2: to get off our chest. You know, big things brought
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Speaker 2: to you by g e h A Government Employees Health Association.
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Speaker 1: Big thing number one is a slow start. We talked
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Speaker 1: about it. First play of the game. Didn't look good.
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Speaker 2: They were able to rebound in the second half. But Brian,
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Speaker 2: when you start a little bit slow, I have to
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Speaker 2: imagine he thought was gonna be a little upset with
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Speaker 2: how the special teams left out of the game.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, but listen, it's hard enough during the course of
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Speaker 3: a season to plug a guy in here or there.
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Speaker 3: It disrupts the chemistry the rhythm of special teams. Now
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Speaker 3: you know you're putting groups of guys together based on
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Speaker 3: the fact that some guys are gonna start, some guys
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Speaker 3: are gonna play more snaps. You're mixing and matching more
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Speaker 3: than ever, and it was ugly. I remember a game
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Speaker 3: Jaguars win in two thousand and seven to Houston and
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Speaker 3: they sat everybody. That was the end of the regular season,
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Speaker 3: John and they gave up two kickoff returns for touchdowns
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Speaker 3: in that game because they played all the backups.
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Speaker 5: So it takes this one guy return.
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Speaker 3: So I wasn't I wasn't surprised by it. I will
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Speaker 3: say this, the slow start was the theme of last
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Speaker 3: week because they got off to a slow start on
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Speaker 3: the practice field and had to sort of build to
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Speaker 3: any sort of positive ending that day. And they had
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Speaker 3: that in New Orleans preseason opener. I guess I'll talk
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Speaker 3: it off to that. The Jaguars are expecting a response,
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Speaker 3: a better response from their team.
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Speaker 4: This week, and I have no doubt they will hearken
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Speaker 4: Backken's an old word. Remember this time last year we
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Speaker 4: were talking about the defense not being able to get
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Speaker 4: lined up against Pittsburgh. Remember that theme was the defense Okay.
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Speaker 1: We did I They got a couple of takeaways as well.
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Speaker 4: So this is this is preseason and we are watching
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Speaker 4: a televised practice in uniforms, and there's going to be
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Speaker 4: mistakes in the first game. Uh So, look they were
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Speaker 4: thirteen and four last here they get the same people
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Speaker 4: coming back. This is a good bunch. They're gonna be fine.
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Speaker 1: Let's go to our big thing Number two, which is
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Speaker 1: O line.
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Speaker 2: We've talked to you about some of the O line
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Speaker 2: injuries and while they're not long term, they added another
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Speaker 2: injured player to that list, Chumtygoga, who left the game
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Speaker 2: against the Saints with another injury. We'll get you an
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Speaker 2: update on that as soon as we have it. But
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Speaker 2: Liam Cohen talked a little bit about the need to
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Speaker 2: battle through and get something out of these practices, even
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Speaker 2: with injuries.
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Speaker 6: Two weeks of good work, that we need to take
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Speaker 6: a step in the right direction both physically conditioning. We
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Speaker 6: have to practice like we're we're gonna go pads a
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Speaker 6: few times this week. We got the joint. We got
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Speaker 6: the two joints against Tampa. So this is the time
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Speaker 6: in training camp that these things sometimes pile up. We're
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Speaker 6: just unfortunately it's out of position in which it's hard
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Speaker 6: to function when you have depth issues and injuries.
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Speaker 2: So it did look like they were having trouble functioning
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Speaker 2: at times on the offensive line. John and I know
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Speaker 2: this isn't a lot of long term stuff, but right
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Speaker 2: now it's kind of ugly.
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Speaker 4: No. I think that was probably the one of the
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Speaker 4: truths that came out of the other day is they
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Speaker 4: need to practice. They have planned their preparation for week
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Speaker 4: one with having good work in the next two weeks.
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Speaker 4: We talked about it all off season. Liam is big
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Speaker 4: on these joint practices. There's three over the next two weeks.
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Speaker 4: They're here. This is sort of where he wants to
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Speaker 4: make Hay in terms of preparation, and that is a
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Speaker 4: real thing.
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Speaker 5: The offensive line.
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Speaker 4: My understanding is they feel fine about Week one, but
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Speaker 4: getting lined up and getting the work and getting the
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Speaker 4: run game work and getting all the all the tough
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Speaker 4: stuff Brian that they need to get done done needs
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Speaker 4: to happen. And I don't think I'm not saying they
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Speaker 4: can't do it, but it's going to be trickier than
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Speaker 4: they wanted.
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Speaker 3: Not everybody feels fine about the way that the offensive
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Speaker 3: line practiced last week on Thursday or played on Saturday.
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Speaker 3: If you think about it like a stop sign, I
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Speaker 3: was not was a green light with this offensive line
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Speaker 3: through training camp. I wasn't worried about the injuries because
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Speaker 3: you know, Walker Little's going to be back. That didn't
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Speaker 3: affect me that much. I'm a flashing yellow right now, like, hey,
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Speaker 3: we got to see some improvement the left side in particular.
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Speaker 3: We've been talking about Anton Harrison and we've taken for
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Speaker 3: granted that Ezra Cleveland, who played so well last year,
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Speaker 3: you know you're going to be good there. Well, they
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Speaker 3: weren't good in New Orleans. They weren't good at all.
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Speaker 3: They've got to bond. They need to see something from
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Speaker 3: the left side. The whole offensive line's got to play well,
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Speaker 3: as John alluded to, but those two guys in particular
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Speaker 3: need to have a good week because if you're going
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Speaker 3: to be the offense that they know they can be,
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Speaker 3: the blind side of the quarterback has to be strong.
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Speaker 3: It was not in New Orleans. It's got to be better.
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Speaker 1: It's just difficult to see much out of them as well.
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Speaker 2: And when we talk about even in the game, I
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Speaker 2: know you're down to second third, fourth string at that point,
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Speaker 2: but it's hard to even put anything together, and that's
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Speaker 2: why the offense looked so tough to watch at times
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Speaker 2: during that game. Our final big thing is going to
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Speaker 2: be back at it because as mentioned, they're right back
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Speaker 2: at practice today and also they have a joint practice
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Speaker 2: with Carolina coming up on Wednesday. So, Brian, we saw
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Speaker 2: a lot of good work in New Orleans against the
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Speaker 2: Saints and Liam cohen longest practice so far of the
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Speaker 2: season is one of the hottest practices. And you know,
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Speaker 2: you can say they won or lost, but more than anything,
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Speaker 2: they got something out of it and they're hoping to
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Speaker 2: improve upon that when Carolina gets to town.
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Speaker 3: So I spent some time with Liam in our production meetings.
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Speaker 3: You were there last What they was saying Friday, you
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Speaker 3: lose track of it. There's two things he wants to
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Speaker 3: see John from his team when the Panthers get here.
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Speaker 3: He wants to see There's more than two, but two
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Speaker 3: in particular. He wants to see a fundamentally sound team,
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Speaker 3: and he wants to see a team that is tough, right,
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Speaker 3: you know, fundamentally sound, attacking, situational masters, tough. He wants
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Speaker 3: to see the beginning and end of those two things
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Speaker 3: because at the substance of who this team is supposed
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Speaker 3: to be, they are a fundamentally sound team that is tough.
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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter whether it's hot or whether it's cold,
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Speaker 3: if it's going well or if it's not going well.
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Speaker 3: He wants to see this team be tough. They'll have
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Speaker 3: a chance, especially on the offensive line against a very
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Speaker 3: good defensive front Derek Brown, who is an All World
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Speaker 3: defensive tackle for Carolina's coming in here. Let's see how
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Speaker 3: the interior prepares for their opportunity to stop that group.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, bear in mind when I say not to worry
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Speaker 4: about the preseason and what we saw in the offensive line,
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Speaker 4: it means I have great faith based on what we
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Speaker 4: saw last year that when they see a thing it's
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Speaker 4: not to their liking, they're going to fix that. And
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Speaker 4: that's what they did with defense last year. They did
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Speaker 4: with many many things last year. So that's why I
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Speaker 4: say not to panic. They clearly still need to see
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Speaker 4: it and it's a fantastic opportunity. I don't worry about
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Speaker 4: seeing this team be tough when they emphasize being tough,
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Speaker 4: because I thought that was their theme last year. But
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Speaker 4: me not worrying about it doesn't mean we still don't
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Speaker 4: need to see it.
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Speaker 1: It's sorry, no, it's me for good. Doesn't make it happen.
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Speaker 2: But you know, Liam Cohen will get them back whipped
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Speaker 2: into shape, and Coach Camp will as well. Stay with
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Speaker 2: here on jag Zam, We're going to look at some
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Speaker 2: of the clips from the first preseason game after the break.
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Speaker 6: Football gods, you know, working in your favor, I guess
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Speaker 6: in those situations, but you know, it's just kind of
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Speaker 6: wild the way the game, the game goes when you.
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Speaker 1: Get the win.
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Speaker 2: Coach smiles through it, although I have to imagine if
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Speaker 2: he didn't get the time out and it didn't go
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Speaker 2: the way he wanted.
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Speaker 1: He would not be smiling as much as he was
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Speaker 1: after that.
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Speaker 2: I know it's pre season, but Liam takes a lot
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Speaker 2: of stuff seriously. So let's go over some of the
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Speaker 2: some of the highlights, some of the memorable moments. At
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Speaker 2: least we talked about that Saints kick return right off
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Speaker 2: the top. Not the way you want to line up
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Speaker 2: on special teams necessarily, but I'm gonna go silver silver,
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Speaker 2: silver lining on this. Jalen Husky rookie coming out of
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Speaker 2: nowhere to save that play, because it was very easily
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Speaker 2: could have been a kick return for a touchdown, and
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Speaker 2: he came out of nowhere to get the tackle to
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Speaker 2: save it. And there was a couple plays from Jalen
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Speaker 2: Husky in that game where he looked impressive.
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Speaker 3: Listen, you practice how you play, or you play how
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Speaker 3: you practice. We've been talking about twenty two. He's splashed
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Speaker 3: all summer long, so I wasn't surprised. I was surprised
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Speaker 3: that he caught him here, but I wasn't surprised he
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Speaker 3: was number twenty two who made that catch, because he
10:54
Speaker 3: has had a great summer.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: To me, he's what you want out of his safety.
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Speaker 4: He's uh, he's a football player, and he makes plays
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Speaker 4: and he reacts to situations.
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Speaker 5: Well. I think he's be pretty good.
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Speaker 2: And he's one of those players where when you talk
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Speaker 2: about not necessarily old school in this sense, like as
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Speaker 2: hard hitting, but he he was not gonna let that
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Speaker 2: touchdown have it like maybe some people make business decisions,
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Speaker 2: but he was ready to go.
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Speaker 3: Listen. He had a run stop later in the ball
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Speaker 3: game where it was him one on one in the
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Speaker 3: hole and he came up and put the guy on
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Speaker 3: the ground for one hundred and ninety pounds safety against
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Speaker 3: a big running back. It was an impressive play.
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Speaker 2: He also had a play where he saved another touchdown
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Speaker 2: later in the game where he flew out of bounds
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Speaker 2: and kind of ran into some people on the sidelines.
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Speaker 1: So he's going for it for sure.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Tough guy too, because it looked on one play like
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Speaker 4: he got a little banged up in stayed ana. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: I probably wouldn't have had to.
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Speaker 2: Nick Mullins started the game. He's pretty much solidified the
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Speaker 2: backup quarterback position. We'll kind of talk about that a
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Speaker 2: little bit later in the show. But it's tough as
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Speaker 2: well because Chiu Minidoga went down early and then it
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Speaker 2: was hard to get the offense in any kind of rhythm.
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Speaker 1: It just felt very disjointed.
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Speaker 4: Well, not only did Chuma go out, their plan Liam
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Speaker 4: said after the game was immediately to get Monheim and mylom.
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Speaker 4: I asked him if it was because of a dooga,
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Speaker 4: if they were about injuries, and he said, now, we
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Speaker 4: were just really planning to get them out. They wanted
12:18
Speaker 4: to make sure I think that their top guys were
12:21
Speaker 4: ready to practice in these big situations. So you're playing
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Speaker 4: with the entire backup line, or maybe not even the
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Speaker 4: backup line. I mean the guys who again are gonna
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Speaker 4: be prictice squad guys are not here.
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Speaker 3: You know, there was a lot of chatter about, you know,
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Speaker 3: backup quarterback issues. I'll take you this. They value his knowledge,
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Speaker 3: Nick Mullen's knowledge of what this offense is. They also
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Speaker 3: value his preparation. So I don't get the sense that
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Speaker 3: the Jaguars are panicking like some folks might be about
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Speaker 3: the backup Ye.
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Speaker 5: I'd be surprised if they make a move there.
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Speaker 2: But let's talk a little bit about some of the flashes.
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Speaker 2: We saw some of the maybe starters or second team
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Speaker 2: people that we saw in the game. Bj Green Ruke
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Speaker 2: ro both contributing to the sack here, and we saw
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Speaker 2: them get some decent run along with Ventrel Miller and
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Speaker 2: Branson Combs, some guys that are going to be contributors
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Speaker 2: on defense. But they were out there a good chunk
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Speaker 2: of the game as well, and nice to see a.
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Speaker 1: Little bit of pressure there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you see Branson Combs in that group as well.
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Speaker 3: He's a guy that James Gladystone said at the very
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Speaker 3: beginning of training camp, doesn't just have coverage skills. John
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Speaker 3: Witch is his strength, but he's got some pass rush
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Speaker 3: ability as well, and you see him there fighting between
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Speaker 3: a guard and to tackle. Again, these are a lot
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Speaker 3: of guys that we've watched so far through training camp
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Speaker 3: who have played consistent football that we're out there making
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Speaker 3: those plays at the super Dome.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Combs and Ventrel that combination to me,
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Speaker 4: it was like it's gonna be fine over there. And
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Speaker 4: I do think it's significant that bj Green continues to
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Speaker 4: matter in things that we see. Is he going to
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Speaker 4: be the best third rusher in the league. You know,
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Speaker 4: I don't know where he's going to rank on that,
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Speaker 4: but I think he I think they're going to have
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Speaker 4: a better third rusher if it's him U and if
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Speaker 4: somebody beats him out for that role that I think
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Speaker 4: it'd be really good. So I think they're I think
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Speaker 4: they're emerging as okay there.
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Speaker 3: I was surprised. This tells you the impact that he had.
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Speaker 3: He only had one tackle, but it seemed like and
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Speaker 3: when I looked at the statue after the I'm an
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Speaker 3: expected sack strip, I mean just it felt like he
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Speaker 3: was making an impact and the statuet didn't necessarily back
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Speaker 3: that up, but the eye tested.
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Speaker 5: But he was pushing guys asu.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was expecting the game.
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Speaker 5: He has looked.
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Speaker 4: We always talk about young players in their first year
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Speaker 4: and then you wait for them, and a lot of
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Speaker 4: times the guys we talk about don't pan out.
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Speaker 5: He has looked like we thought he would last year.
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Speaker 2: Jump to the second half because it wasn't great in
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Speaker 2: the first half of the Jags. But how about this
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Speaker 2: Hunter Long touchdown and then a two point conversion. Grant
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Speaker 2: Dnsky was making the play, calls Brian and this one
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Speaker 2: was kind of nifty, you know, going right and then
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Speaker 2: coming back to the tight ends wide open touchdown.
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Speaker 3: Well, it's funny because Bucky and I were talking on
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Speaker 3: the broadcast that if Chris Rodriguez had been in the
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Speaker 3: this was an easy call.
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Speaker 5: You hand it to him.
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Speaker 3: And then Yudiski comes with this, and Bucky and I
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Speaker 3: were laughing afterwards. Hunter Long is another guy who he
15:08
Speaker 3: seems like he's falling down the depth chart with the
15:11
Speaker 3: addition of Borkatchier and Cozial, and yet he's really been
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Speaker 3: productive and had good practice sessions, and there he is
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Speaker 3: that capped off that drive Tui at the beginning of
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Speaker 3: the third quarter, and that's really what made it a
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Speaker 3: fun game in the second half, because the Jaguars responded
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Speaker 3: to the adversity of the first half with a really
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Speaker 3: good beginning of the third quarter.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you don't want to take too much from
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Speaker 4: the second half of the first preseason game and say
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Speaker 4: it's going to translate. But the fact that they came
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Speaker 4: out and said we're just gonna run, I think speaks
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Speaker 4: a little bit to what they want to be if
15:47
Speaker 4: they get in trouble, if they get to where something's
15:50
Speaker 4: not working, they want to be a team that can
15:52
Speaker 4: go rely on that. So I think there was a
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Speaker 4: little wrinkle of what they want to be there.
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Speaker 2: Jamar Taylor got the other touchdown, and he had a
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Speaker 2: lot of the carries in the second half there, and
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Speaker 2: he looks like somebody obviously we've talked about in training
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Speaker 2: camp who has flashed and was great at the University
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Speaker 2: of Virginia, someone they probably would like to get on
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Speaker 2: the practice squad if possible.
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Speaker 4: John, Yeah, what you want these days when you sign
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Speaker 4: an undrafted running back, especially in their situation. They've got
16:17
Speaker 4: backs that they like who are going to be on
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Speaker 4: the roster but you want to have a guy on
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Speaker 4: the practice squad who if you get in a vine
16:25
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, guys on the sideline that
16:28
Speaker 4: you feel like, maybe they're not going to be as
16:30
Speaker 4: dynamic in the passing game as those guys who are
16:33
Speaker 4: on their roster, but you know you can turn around
16:36
Speaker 4: and give them the ball and they can run for
16:37
Speaker 4: two or three games for you.
16:39
Speaker 5: He looks like.
16:40
Speaker 4: That guy, and that can be an important pickup once
16:44
Speaker 4: the season gets going and the realities of injuries hit.
16:47
Speaker 5: Ryn.
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Speaker 3: You know that this roster is probably fifty or fifty
16:50
Speaker 3: three complete, right, There's not many jobs that are open.
16:54
Speaker 3: A guy like that just complicates You're a calculus because
16:58
Speaker 3: and we've used him as an example before. They were
17:00
Speaker 3: in twenty fourteen, Tyler Shatley, a long time contributor on
17:03
Speaker 3: the offensive line here. They wanted to get him to
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Speaker 3: the practice squad, and kai the night that they were
17:08
Speaker 3: making the cuts, they heard he was going to be signed.
17:11
Speaker 3: So they kept him on the roster and he never left.
17:14
Speaker 3: They've got a lot of production out of that running
17:16
Speaker 3: back room. Taylor's a guy they absolutely want to keep. Quietly,
17:19
Speaker 3: I hear that the Mirordula has had a tremendous training
17:22
Speaker 3: cap and is a good play the other day, and
17:25
Speaker 3: I think you can read into that. So they don't
17:27
Speaker 3: want to give anyone any tape. He has been a
17:29
Speaker 3: thing for all of the consternation about Travis etn leaving.
17:33
Speaker 3: They are really comfortable with what they've got. More than comfortable.
17:36
Speaker 3: They're not always a happy no coach, yeah, but they
17:41
Speaker 3: feel good about where they're at.
17:43
Speaker 4: But that's a second position now where I think they're
17:46
Speaker 4: going to have to keep six Edges because they like
17:49
Speaker 4: the four I'm not gonna name them all, but beyond
17:51
Speaker 4: Trayvon and Josh, they like four guys there. Well that
17:54
Speaker 4: six is a big number for Edge, but they like
17:56
Speaker 4: him enough where they have to keep on the active roster.
17:59
Speaker 4: Tomorio Taylor becomes another guy where it's like can we
18:01
Speaker 4: get him to the practice squad? Oh, we got to
18:03
Speaker 4: keep it. So we haven't had this conversation that much.
18:07
Speaker 3: It's Strigo Green Williams. And then here's the name Brian
18:11
Speaker 3: Thomas Junior, Brian with a Y from South Carolina. We'd
18:15
Speaker 3: heard that he had impressed the coachers and then he
18:17
Speaker 3: went out the other night.
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Speaker 5: Maybe you mentioned Durfy who also fall.
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Speaker 3: Without a doubt. I mean, there's lots of guys that
18:23
Speaker 3: they have done a nice job of creating the competition
18:25
Speaker 3: that they've talked about on this roster.
18:28
Speaker 2: Let's do the final two plays of the game, because
18:29
Speaker 2: I think this kind of sums up the night to
18:31
Speaker 2: bar Mohammad, who played almost I want to say the
18:35
Speaker 2: almost the entire game on defense. He was out there
18:37
Speaker 2: for a significant amount of snaps, gets called for the
18:40
Speaker 2: p I penalty on the second to last play, and
18:42
Speaker 2: then obviously on the last play, was able to kind
18:47
Speaker 2: of come up and keep the keep the win for
18:50
Speaker 2: the Jags. But John, he's someone in training camp who
18:53
Speaker 2: has looked really good but then got picked on a
18:55
Speaker 2: little bit in a game. So is this one of
18:57
Speaker 2: those things where maybe he flashes in training camp but
18:59
Speaker 2: has translated to gameplay yet or am I reading too
19:02
Speaker 2: much into it?
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Speaker 5: Well?
19:03
Speaker 4: I think you saw this with terror Penya too young guys,
19:11
Speaker 4: Remember we've seen him in practice. This is a lights
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Speaker 4: on situation that they haven't played in that much at
19:17
Speaker 4: this level. Terror Penya has to drop, comes back and
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Speaker 4: makes a huge catch that says with the winning touchdown,
19:23
Speaker 4: Muhammad wasn't you know? I thought he had some plays
19:26
Speaker 4: and then he also got beat in a couple of plays,
19:28
Speaker 4: comes back and makes a play. People are seeing in
19:33
Speaker 4: real time growth. So I think you saw that out
19:36
Speaker 4: of both guys, they love Mohammed are both of those
19:39
Speaker 4: guys I just talked about.
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Speaker 5: Ready, Do you want them starting on week one? Probably not, But.
19:46
Speaker 4: Preseason in training camp, especially for these young undrafted guys,
19:50
Speaker 4: is about developing and seeing if you might have something
19:54
Speaker 4: for him to come back and make a big play.
19:57
Speaker 4: Both of those guys shows that they can repe on
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Speaker 4: to the moment, and.
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Speaker 3: That's the word, that's a huge thing. That's the word
20:03
Speaker 3: thank you. These guys value these guys being Biselli Gladstone
20:07
Speaker 3: and call him. They value a player who recognizes the moment,
20:12
Speaker 3: situational awareness and then rises to the moment. So there
20:15
Speaker 3: were mistakes along the course of the game by him,
20:19
Speaker 3: but when the moment was the biggest, he came through
20:21
Speaker 3: and that is something that they place a high priority on.
20:24
Speaker 3: So they love him and he's going to be on
20:26
Speaker 3: this football team.
20:27
Speaker 4: Well, it also comes down to gut for a coach,
20:29
Speaker 4: Liam or cam or you didn't see your sitting in
20:31
Speaker 4: the sidelines. Injuries have happened you're in December. You turn
20:35
Speaker 4: around all of a sudden and I'm throwing Muhammad in
20:38
Speaker 4: the game. I'm throwing pain in the game. I seen
20:40
Speaker 4: him do it once go in So the fact that
20:43
Speaker 4: they've done it could make a difference in December at
20:46
Speaker 4: some point.
20:47
Speaker 5: Who knows.
20:47
Speaker 2: It is the life of a dB as well. You
20:49
Speaker 2: get beat, but you got to get back out there.
20:50
Speaker 2: And he did that in the last play of the game.
20:52
Speaker 2: So stay with us here coming up, were gonna do
20:54
Speaker 2: some hot takes after break to jags Am brought to
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Speaker 3: There are good.
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Speaker 7: Things like a sharpen because at the end of the day,
21:12
Speaker 7: you're chasing greatness, you're chasing dominance. You know, every time
21:15
Speaker 7: I came to the sideline, I would getting the pointers
21:17
Speaker 7: on trade Josh, you can go out there and directed,
21:19
Speaker 7: you know, make jac pressure.
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Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm look good.
21:23
Speaker 7: It's a good step that's going here, but it's nowhere.
21:25
Speaker 7: I'm not saying to you.
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Speaker 1: PJ.
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Speaker 2: Greenshown flashes not satisfied yet. Obviously, an undrafted free agent
21:31
Speaker 2: last year makes the team, but he'll be back out
21:34
Speaker 2: there again, it's good to see. Let's go over some
21:36
Speaker 2: of our hot takes from either the game or joint
21:38
Speaker 2: practice or just this point of training camp. Brian, what
21:41
Speaker 2: is your hot take for us?
21:42
Speaker 3: We as I alluded in the top of the show,
21:45
Speaker 3: there's something to prove for these guys. Not all of them, well, yes,
21:49
Speaker 3: all of them, because that's professional football. But there are
21:51
Speaker 3: some players who are coming off of the New Orleans
21:54
Speaker 3: practice session last Thursday. Let's put it this way, they're
21:57
Speaker 3: looking for a response. That was the theme of HQ
22:00
Speaker 3: last thursday with Boselli and Gladstone. They want to see
22:04
Speaker 3: those guys both on the offensive line that we've talked about,
22:07
Speaker 3: there were some guys on the defensive line and the
22:09
Speaker 3: defense stopping the run. We're given up five and six
22:12
Speaker 3: yards a clip. Can't have that. I mean, that puts
22:15
Speaker 3: you in disadvantageous situations in terms of your defense. They
22:19
Speaker 3: want to see some guys who didn't practice well last
22:22
Speaker 3: week respond come out fundamentally sound tough. There's something for
22:27
Speaker 3: guys to prove. There better be an edge, and Liam
22:29
Speaker 3: Coman is always looking for an edge for his football team. Well,
22:33
Speaker 3: he's got one based on the fact that they were
22:35
Speaker 3: not happy that there was some dissatisfaction with last Thursday's practice.
22:39
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's almost like people who observe this league have
22:43
Speaker 4: to rethink how they think things. During the preseason. Everybody's
22:47
Speaker 4: sort of panicky about the preseason game preseason games. But
22:50
Speaker 4: you're right, the practices, especially these joint practices four or five,
22:55
Speaker 4: are where these teams now, especially Liam really wants to
22:58
Speaker 4: see progress, stoutness in the run game. They you know,
23:03
Speaker 4: the physicality of things. You used to not really you know,
23:07
Speaker 4: practice whatever. But now I think these two the one
23:11
Speaker 4: practice this week and the two next week, Uh, they
23:14
Speaker 4: are looking forward and I hope for their sake that
23:18
Speaker 4: they have enough guys to practice well to get what
23:22
Speaker 4: they want out of it.
23:23
Speaker 3: There's a word that was used a couple of times
23:25
Speaker 3: with me that I think is really important in this building,
23:27
Speaker 3: and that is they want to trust you. They want
23:29
Speaker 3: to know going into year two that there are guys
23:32
Speaker 3: they absolutely can trust. You earn that trust on the
23:36
Speaker 3: practice field, and they've got a couple of weeks before
23:38
Speaker 3: the start of the season to build it up.
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Speaker 1: John, what's your hot take for us today?
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Speaker 4: Well, mine was on the defensive tackles, and you know,
23:47
Speaker 4: all that kind of said. Rouquet, love hearing you say it,
23:52
Speaker 4: and Albert Regis. I don't want to put too much
23:56
Speaker 4: into these plays because it's a preseason game, minutes against
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Speaker 4: a second team.
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Speaker 5: Line, blah blah blah.
24:02
Speaker 4: But if you're looking for things in a preseason game, Brian,
24:05
Speaker 4: the fact that Regis makes this move and then is
24:08
Speaker 4: athletic enough to corral the quarterback.
24:11
Speaker 5: In the pocket.
24:12
Speaker 4: There was some physical athleticism stuff there that's like, Okay,
24:16
Speaker 4: well that's not something that we see. So you don't
24:20
Speaker 4: need fifteen sacks from the interior, but you need some penetration,
24:24
Speaker 4: you need some disruption, and I would say we saw
24:27
Speaker 4: slivers of that where you said, Okay, that might be
24:31
Speaker 4: a little step up from last year. They don't need
24:33
Speaker 4: to improve dramatically from last year. They're thirteen and four.
24:35
Speaker 4: You need little things, a little bit more on the
24:38
Speaker 4: defensive interior if you're if you can get a little
24:41
Speaker 4: bit of something out of these guys. It's hard to
24:44
Speaker 4: have a preseason hot take, but I think that could
24:47
Speaker 4: be a at least a warm take.
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Speaker 3: Oh it is, and let me bookend it. Eric Armstead,
24:51
Speaker 3: I think we all would.
24:52
Speaker 2: Say that would be the hot part of the take
24:53
Speaker 2: is he's had probably the best camp of anyone, which.
24:56
Speaker 3: Highly motivated, tremendous camp, and the Jaguars are managing his
24:58
Speaker 3: time very caut sciously and he is getting the most
25:01
Speaker 3: of it. On the back end, there are two undrafted
25:03
Speaker 3: rookie defensive tackles who they are very pleased with, Guys
25:07
Speaker 3: that they like a lot, Trevor Bowlers from Cow and
25:11
Speaker 3: Jalen Hunt, two young defensive tackles who they think have
25:15
Speaker 3: both the ability to play the run but also give
25:17
Speaker 3: you some of that Albert Regis some of that get
25:19
Speaker 3: up the field. For the most part, they really have
25:23
Speaker 3: been pleased with what they've gotten from the defensive tackles.
25:26
Speaker 4: And some of what we're talking about here is you're
25:30
Speaker 4: thinking about right now, but guys that we're talking about,
25:34
Speaker 4: a guy like Albert Regis may be a lot better
25:37
Speaker 4: down the road than he is right now. So the
25:38
Speaker 4: flashes we're talking about, the optimism we're talking about about
25:41
Speaker 4: Bowlers in Hunt is the long term building part of
25:45
Speaker 4: this thing, and that's still going on sort of as
25:48
Speaker 4: we talk about this season.
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Speaker 2: Regis, i think, is one of those good examples where
25:52
Speaker 2: it's like he's a big man, but he's going up
25:53
Speaker 2: against really really big men at that position in the NFL,
25:56
Speaker 2: and he's working behind Devon Hamilton, who I think we've
25:59
Speaker 2: seen progress and is now so good that having that
26:02
Speaker 2: ability to maybe have a year to kind of learn
26:04
Speaker 2: under him will really help advance him into maybe his
26:06
Speaker 2: second year.
26:07
Speaker 4: And again to put in perspective what we're talking about here,
26:10
Speaker 4: they weren't necessarily thrilled with Devon Hamilton this time last year.
26:14
Speaker 4: I mean, they weren't down on him, but it wasn't
26:17
Speaker 4: like they thought he was going to be the best
26:19
Speaker 4: news tackle in football.
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Speaker 1: Well, Josh hens Allen thought it, but he was the
26:23
Speaker 1: only one at the time.
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Speaker 5: Maybe he thought it.
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Speaker 4: With apologies to Josh, at this point last year, Devon
26:27
Speaker 4: really wasn't that. So if they were, some of these
26:31
Speaker 4: things can get ironed out. As the point, Bryan, you
26:34
Speaker 4: never know.
26:34
Speaker 3: You got to give it a chance, and they did
26:37
Speaker 3: with Devon because number twenty twenty three, you know, from
26:39
Speaker 3: a health perspective, it was a disaster for him and
26:42
Speaker 3: he came back through twenty four. This coaching staff, it's
26:45
Speaker 3: worth noting because we've talked about a number of players,
26:47
Speaker 3: Devon's one of those guys. They've gotten more from him
26:50
Speaker 3: than previous coaching they do. This group gets a lot
26:53
Speaker 3: out of guys, which gives you a lot of reason
26:56
Speaker 3: to be optimistic, and Devon Hamilton is a guy they
26:58
Speaker 3: trust immensely.
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Speaker 2: The develop part of draft and develop. My hot take
27:02
Speaker 2: is a little bit about the backup quarterback situation because
27:05
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people are feeling some type
27:07
Speaker 2: of way after watching that preseason matchup, and here's my
27:10
Speaker 2: point of view. Should they go get a backup quarterback? Probably?
27:13
Speaker 2: Are they going to do that? Absolutely not, And I
27:15
Speaker 2: don't think anybody should expect them to because they're not
27:18
Speaker 2: going to. They're very comfortable with the situation they're in.
27:20
Speaker 2: And I kind of liken it too. Obviously, I work
27:23
Speaker 2: for an NFL team. I don't gamble anymore, but when
27:24
Speaker 2: I did, I like to go all in, you know,
27:26
Speaker 2: I like to go big.
27:27
Speaker 1: I like to go for it.
27:28
Speaker 2: I want to get a good payout, and Trevor Lawrence
27:31
Speaker 2: is where they have put all their money and all
27:33
Speaker 2: their hopes and all their dreams, and I think it's
27:34
Speaker 2: a fair place to place it after what we saw
27:36
Speaker 2: from him last season. Hopefully it pays out really big,
27:39
Speaker 2: but if not, on what anything happens to Trevor. I
27:42
Speaker 2: don't know if this team is necessarily built to withstand
27:45
Speaker 2: a very long injury of Trevor Lawrence. Maybe a game
27:48
Speaker 2: or two, but that's just not the way they're gonna
27:50
Speaker 2: build this team right now. So I don't think it's
27:52
Speaker 2: realistic for anybody to kind of expect that to happen.
27:55
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys have heard anything different,
27:56
Speaker 2: but I think it's gonna be exactly like what it
27:58
Speaker 2: looks like.
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Speaker 3: He's not a long term solution as your backup. The
28:02
Speaker 3: thing they liked the most about him, we already talked about.
28:05
Speaker 3: He knows this system from his time with Grant in Minnesota,
28:10
Speaker 3: and I'm told he is very involved in a lot
28:12
Speaker 3: of the preparation work for quarterbacks, and so I don't
28:15
Speaker 3: see him going anywhere. I don't know who you could
28:18
Speaker 3: bring in. I don't know that there's anybody on the street,
28:20
Speaker 3: anybody even on anyone else's roster. You go, oh, we'd
28:23
Speaker 3: be much better with him.
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Speaker 5: It would be.
28:25
Speaker 4: It would be a pretty dramatic shift in philosophy and
28:29
Speaker 4: approach based on twenty five minutes. So I you know,
28:36
Speaker 4: if they see that it's disastrous.
28:39
Speaker 5: For a month.
28:41
Speaker 4: Maybe they do something, but I would be surprised if
28:42
Speaker 4: they did based on one sample size.
28:45
Speaker 2: All right, say with son Jack Zam, we'll tell you
28:47
Speaker 2: what's coming up the rest of the week, including joint practice.
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Speaker 6: Good and I thought the communication was solid. Thought Granted
29:03
Speaker 6: a nice job kind of settling at halftime. I've been
29:06
Speaker 6: in those moments where you're not a lot's working and
29:10
Speaker 6: you're frustrated and you don't really have a ton to
29:13
Speaker 6: go do, and it was really just like, let's just
29:15
Speaker 6: go downhill and just run and run it and get downhill.
29:18
Speaker 6: And I thought he did a nice job of mixing
29:20
Speaker 6: it up when he needed to, and he was calm, cool, collected.
29:24
Speaker 6: I was happy for him.
29:26
Speaker 2: So head coach the nam con talking a little bit
29:28
Speaker 2: about Grant Ydnsky. You called the plays in that game,
29:30
Speaker 2: but was able to kind of rally the troops at
29:32
Speaker 2: halftime and get things back on track. Getting things back
29:35
Speaker 2: on track this week, Brian, what do you want to
29:36
Speaker 2: see out of practice and joint practice sounded.
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Speaker 4: Tough, Yes, same, I mean you want to see a
29:44
Speaker 4: better practice in they had against New Orleans last week.
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Speaker 4: I think that'll be the theme of the week without question.
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Speaker 1: All right, well we'll have all that coverage for you.
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Speaker 2: Would be back on Wednesday at joint practice this week
29:54
Speaker 2: to give you a live look at how it goes down.
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Speaker 1: See then