Latest / Millennial Mustard Seed / S5 173. Derek Gilbert - Dolmens, Dragons, Portals & Gravestones
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- 2:19None. Welcome back to the Millennial
- 2:24Mustard Seed. I'm your host, Rod.
- 2:26Thank you for being here with me for another awesome episode, you
- 2:30guys. I'm joined by Derek Gilbert.
- 2:32It's been around 2 years since I had him on last.
- 2:35I don't even know why it's been that long, but recently I had
- 2:39some questions for him, some connections that were made and
- 2:42were quite complimentary. Between my questions and his
- 2:46answers on this riveting episode, you guys, we get into
- 2:49discussions regarding dolmens, gravestones, quartz, granite
- 2:56Dragons, the Dracon, the Nahash, shiny, the Shining Ones.
- 3:02Wow. Yeah, this is a pretty cool
- 3:04conversation. Even signals comes up and in the
- 3:08idea of looking at some of these structures that are found all
- 3:11throughout the world aerially to see if they have a marker, a
- 3:16specific signature that is affiliated with them.
- 3:20And it's a really fun conversation.
- 3:21Me and Derek kind of get into this topic towards the end where
- 3:26I push back a little bit for the idea that with dinosaurs, I'm
- 3:29not going to give it all away. I want you guys to really listen
- 3:32to this one, but, and I think I have some excellent questions
- 3:36that should get you guys thinking again, to critically
- 3:39think for yourself. That's probably one of the most
- 3:41important things you could extrapolate from an episode like
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- 4:00one, that's for sure. And it won't be too long until I
- 4:03invite him back. I do have some collaborative
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- 6:21Welcome to the Millennial Mustard Seed podcast.
- 6:27Gilbert, it is an honor to be back with you, man.
- 6:30It's been I think like 2 years since you were on.
- 6:32Yeah. I looked it up, it's June of 22.
- 6:35So we are we are back and happy to be here.
- 6:38And I'm just letting the public know how gracious a host you are
- 6:42because we were supposed to do this a week ago and I totally
- 6:44blew it. Forgot to put it on my calendar.
- 6:46And Rod was so gracious. So you listening, just know that
- 6:50this host is a very gracious man and I appreciate the fact that
- 6:53you're so forgiving. So again, my apologies and thank
- 6:56you for rescheduling this week. Yeah.
- 6:58Thank you for this kind words. Humility is key in in this life.
- 7:02Keeping that close and operating that way is it's a key to many
- 7:07doors. Yes, Sir.
- 7:08Derek, you know, last time you're on, we had this riveting
- 7:11conversation. Really.
- 7:12We got into all different types of topics.
- 7:14I want to brush up on a few of those topics regarding Dragons,
- 7:17for example. But I do want to open this thing
- 7:20up with what I consider to be a personal cliffhanger.
- 7:22We have a lot of new listeners. But for people who did go back
- 7:25into that archive and listen to your, your past interview here
- 7:29with me, you had mentioned Dolman's at one point.
- 7:32Give us a quick fresher on what Dolman's are.
- 7:36Let's just see where we go from there.
- 7:38Yeah, and the reason we find them so interesting, dolmans are
- 7:42like a megalithic funerary monument that are found all over
- 7:46the world. They're in Korea, they're in the
- 7:48Caucasus Mountains, they're in Europe, they're found in the
- 7:52British Isles. In fact, in the word dolmen is a
- 7:55Britannic word. That's a Celtic language that
- 7:57was applied by a couple of British soldiers who were in the
- 8:00Holy Land, Palestine then in the 19th century and saw these
- 8:04things say, yeah, we know what these are.
- 8:05These are dolmens, which is a word that means table because
- 8:09the most simple form of the dolmen looks like a table, 2
- 8:12vertical slabs of stone with a like a table top across the top.
- 8:15So it looks sort of like a very simple trilithon.
- 8:19There are more complicated styles, and scholars have been
- 8:22studying these things for the last 125 years or more, and they
- 8:26still have yet to reach a consensus as to what they're
- 8:29for, who built them and when. Now we are very interested in
- 8:34them because there are more of them clustered in the Jordan
- 8:38River Valley and the Golan Heights than anywhere on earth.
- 8:42More of them clustered tighter together.
- 8:44Between Mount Hermon and the Dead Sea there are an estimated
- 8:4725,000 dolmans. About 5600 of them are on the
- 8:52Golan Heights alone. Now that's just the Israeli side
- 8:54of the border. Because back in the day, prior
- 8:57to Syria and Israel becoming a thing, Bashan, the Kingdom of
- 9:02AG, who was the first military target of Moses and the
- 9:05Israelites. His Kingdom extended well into
- 9:07Syria. The site of the two or the sites
- 9:09of the two battles between the Israelites in Ogg were at
- 9:13Ashtaroth and Edrey, which were two his 2 royal cities and both
- 9:17of those are on the Syrian side of the border.
- 9:20Well, obviously Israeli archaeologists are not welcome
- 9:23over there, so they're probably even more dolmans on that side
- 9:26of the border. And in fact, there have been
- 9:29some archaeological reports on the dolmans over there, but just
- 9:33not as much attention given to the Israeli side.
- 9:35After Israel took the Golan Heights in 1967, they began
- 9:39surveying the area pretty quickly.
- 9:41And by the 2014, 2015, I think it was 2015, the archaeologist
- 9:47in charge of this survey of the Golan, Dr. Moshe Hartal, wrote
- 9:52that we can no longer use the term dolman fields.
- 9:56I'm paraphrasing because we don't know where 1 ends and the
- 9:59next one begins. In other words, he he
- 10:01recommended viewing the Golan Heights, ancient Bashan, as a
- 10:05giant necropolis, one giant dolman field.
- 10:08Now again, we don't know specifically when they were
- 10:10built. Most archaeologists seem to
- 10:13think they were early Middle Bronze Age, which would be
- 10:18roughly say 3300 BC. Was the early bronze Middle
- 10:22bronze sometime around 2021 hundred BC if I remember
- 10:26correctly. Abraham was definitely middle
- 10:28Bronze Age. The destruction of Sodom, Middle
- 10:30Bronze Age. And a lot of scholars will look
- 10:34at the early survey reports from the Israeli archaeologists on
- 10:38the Golan and assume that they were correct.
- 10:41And one of the archaeologists who did the most work on that,
- 10:47whose name is escaping me right now, She is a woman.
- 10:49Anyway, it'll probably come to me during the conversation.
- 10:52She found some pottery, bits of pottery here and there that
- 10:57could be typed to the Middle Bronze.
- 10:59And so that was the reason she dated it to that point or to
- 11:03that time period. So OK, we're saying roughly 2000
- 11:07BC, give or take. Now recently an archaeologist
- 11:10named Doctor Mike Freakman, who is done the most recent
- 11:15excavations at the megalithic site, Gilgal Raphaeem and the
- 11:20what we've dubbed the Serpent bound of Bashan.
- 11:22It's a Ridge that is serpent shaped, about 3/4 of a mile
- 11:26long, 200 feet wide, about 20 to 25 feet high, and covered with
- 11:30megalithic tombs, dolmens that are covered with tombulite, big
- 11:34piles of rocks, sort of like the what, what do they call them?
- 11:38In Scotland, when you'd bury somebody, you just pile a bunch
- 11:40of rocks on top of them. There are like 140 of these on
- 11:44the back of this serpent shaped Ridge.
- 11:47It makes the, the Great Serpent Mound of Adams County, Ohio look
- 11:50like a, like an inchworm. It's three times longer, four
- 11:54times taller, and it's covered with megalithic tombs, a dolmen
- 11:58that's been covered over with rocks.
- 12:01Well, when Mike excavated those, he found they were essentially
- 12:04constructed like smaller versions of Gilgal Raphaeem, 20
- 12:08feet across, but a couple of concentric rings of stone around
- 12:10a central core that was essentially a chamber that could
- 12:14be entered through a shaft like Gilgal Raphaeem.
- 12:18But when he started, he wrote his, he wrote his doctoral
- 12:22dissertation on the megalithic structures on the Golan Heights.
- 12:25He's fascinated by these things, just like we are.
- 12:27And we had the opportunity to spend a day with him at Gilgal
- 12:31Rifaeem and the Serpent Mound of Bashan last spring and ask him
- 12:35questions. And it was hilarious because
- 12:37he's he's like a a Russian Jew with a shaved head and a biker
- 12:41mustache. And he he looks like somebody
- 12:43who, you know, you wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley.
- 12:45And so, you know, he's yet he's got a real great sense of humor.
- 12:49Hey, we read your paper on this. Oh, you're the one.
- 12:52You know too much. I must kill you.
- 12:54Like, OK. But his his conclusion, first of
- 12:59all, was that these monuments were constructed for the cult of
- 13:04the dead, the veneration of the spirits of the deceased, and
- 13:08secondly, that they're much, much older than previous
- 13:12generations of archaeologists thought they were.
- 13:15Claire Epstein. That was the name I was trying
- 13:17to think of. The archaeologist, the female
- 13:19archaeologist who did the the majority of the survey work on
- 13:22the Golan Heights back in the 60s and 70s and dated the
- 13:25dolmans to the Middle Bronze. Mike Freakman did a really
- 13:29interesting thing, which when you think about it, it's like,
- 13:31wow, that's common sense. Why hasn't anyone done this
- 13:33before? He did.
- 13:35He took the survey information from the archaeologist and
- 13:39compared the number of settlements in the various
- 13:42periods of history on the Golan Heights, ancient Bashan, with
- 13:47the proximity to these megalithic sites.
- 13:49And he found that in the Bronze Age, the Golan had been
- 13:55essentially depopulated at the end of the Caucolithic or the
- 13:59Copper Age, it was depopulated until toward the end of the
- 14:02Bronze Age and beginning of the Iron Age.
- 14:04So what that means is there wasn't the manpower on the Golan
- 14:09Heights to build these things, except when you go back into the
- 14:13Copper Age, the Caucolithic, there you find concentrations of
- 14:17dolmens and specifically and especially Gilgal Raphaim, which
- 14:21was like between 46 and 65,000 tons of stone.
- 14:26Stonehenge is like 2500 tons. This is 45 to 65,000 tons.
- 14:31So you need you need manpower and it just wasn't there until
- 14:34you go far enough back in history.
- 14:36So something like 3300 to he actually dated it to about
- 14:40thirty, 3700 BC. Wow.
- 14:45OK, so let let me just ask two things.
- 14:46Are we, do we know what these stones are made of right?
- 14:49Is there is there a specific material?
- 14:51Do they vary? And then the next thing is
- 14:53anybody looked aerial like looked aerial to see if there's
- 14:57any signatures or markers that are, it can be seen, you know,
- 15:01from the air. Has anybody mapped it out to
- 15:03look at it from that perspective?
- 15:05OK, let's hear about that. Yeah, the stone basically
- 15:08depends on what was available. So on the Golan Heights, it's
- 15:10mainly basalt, which is volcanic rock, because the Golan Heights
- 15:14is essentially a big basalt plane caused by the eruption of
- 15:18volcanoes back in the prehistoric era.
- 15:20So that's the stone that's available.
- 15:22They piled up the basalt rock and that's how they made these
- 15:25things. When you get into areas further
- 15:27South where there's more limestone, they're the dolmans
- 15:31are made of of limestone. And the same is true with the
- 15:35the Jordan River Valley, except it's called the Hula Valley, the
- 15:38valley between the Sea of Galilee and just about Mount
- 15:41Hermon. So the valley between Mount
- 15:44Hermon and the Sea of Galilee, the Jordan River runs right
- 15:47through it, but it's much wider than the Jordan River because it
- 15:50used to be a marsh with a lake in the middle of it, drained by
- 15:53the Israelis in the 50s to cut down on malaria.
- 15:55But what's interesting is that valley is got like, 1100 dolmans
- 15:59on the hills on either side, mostly limestone because, again,
- 16:02that's the stone that's available to build in those
- 16:05areas. So aerial photography.
- 16:08Yeah, they've done a bunch of that.
- 16:10What? That's what amazes me about
- 16:11Gilgal Rifaeem. It was rediscovered when the
- 16:13Israelis took the Golan from Syria in 1967.
- 16:17You can see this thing on Google Earth plain as day.
- 16:21I mean, you can see the thing from Spain.
- 16:23That's how our friend Doug Van Dorn was the first to identify
- 16:26the Serpent Mound of Bashan. You look at Google Earth, you
- 16:29find Gilgal Rifaeem looks slightly to the north.
- 16:32Hey, there's a snake there. I mean, it's visible from space.
- 16:38Now, of course, Israel's been overflying these areas for a
- 16:41long time. Now that you've got drone
- 16:42operators, you've got a lot of images of these things as well.
- 16:50I, I, I would say that there's been some archaeoastronomy done
- 16:53on some of these fields. There's one in Jordan, the Zarka
- 16:57River Valley, which is the river that runs from Amman, Jordan
- 17:01down to the, down the tent down to the Jordan River and found
- 17:06that the dolmens appeared to be oriented toward the day, toward
- 17:13the constellation Orion. On the day in which the
- 17:16constellation appears to be standing up, which is around the
- 17:20winter solstice. It, it wasn't focused on the
- 17:23summer on the winter solstice, it wasn't focused on, you know,
- 17:27due South or anything. They, they, they calculated that
- 17:29the majority of them pointed to like 151° on the compass, which
- 17:34was puzzling because they couldn't figure out, OK, it's
- 17:36not a solar thing, it's not a lunar thing, what is it?
- 17:38And all they could figure was that, OK, it's pointed to Orion,
- 17:41which would have been the constellation Tammuz in ancient,
- 17:45the ancient Near East. Tammuz, who was a demigod, the
- 17:48God of shepherds, which in a culture that was mainly oriented
- 17:52around herding goats and sheep, would have been pretty
- 17:55important. But that was kind of unusual.
- 17:59You go further South to a site across the river from Jericho,
- 18:03right at the South end of the Jordan River Valley before it
- 18:05empties into the Dead Sea. And there's a site on the east
- 18:08side of the the river there, the Jordanian side called Tal Al
- 18:12Hammam. And a team from Trinity
- 18:15Southwest University led by Doctor Stephen Collins has been
- 18:18digging there for 20 years now. Last year was their last season
- 18:22there. Sadly, the Jordanian government
- 18:24said, OK, we're going to turn into a park now.
- 18:25No more digging. Their excavations have convinced
- 18:30us that they found the site of Sodom because when they reached
- 18:34the destruction layer of this city, which was bigger than
- 18:37anything in the southern part of the Levant, I mean, it was
- 18:39bigger. The next largest city anywhere
- 18:42nearby was Hot Sore, which was halfway between the Sea of
- 18:45Galilee and Mount Hermon. There were 85 acres enclosed
- 18:49inside the city walls. Jerusalem at the time was about
- 18:5110 acres, Jericho's about 10 or 12 acres if I remember right.
- 18:55So it'd be much bigger than Jericho or Jerusalem. 2 cities
- 18:58that are much more famous. This was a big, powerful,
- 19:01wealthy city that controlled the fertile farmland at the South
- 19:05end of the of the Jordan Valley, controlled access to the King's
- 19:09Hwy. to the east, which connected Egypt to Mesopotamia,
- 19:13and was big enough obviously, to attract an army from what is now
- 19:18Iran according to Genesis chapter 14, the kings from the
- 19:22east, Keder Laomer and his other his other allies.
- 19:25So this was a huge site. But what was really interesting,
- 19:28and Doctor Collins mentions this in passing in his book about
- 19:31finding Sodom, there were 1500 dolmens at the base of the city,
- 19:37the base of the hill 75 feet up off the ground.
- 19:39That's the lower level of the city.
- 19:41The upper level's another 50 feet higher than that. 150
- 19:44dolmens. All right.
- 19:46Excuse me. 1500 dolmens, 1500. There are only 500 left because
- 19:49the rest have been scavenged for building materials over the
- 19:53years. Sadly, rock is about the only
- 19:56rock and sand are the only natural resources that Jordan
- 19:59has. So 1500 dolmens is the tightest
- 20:04concentration of dolmens anywhere in the Jordan Valley.
- 20:06So we're talking about an area with the tightest the the most
- 20:10dolmens. In one area anywhere on earth
- 20:13between the Dead Sea and Mount Hermon and you've got at the
- 20:15base of the city destroyed by God with fire from heaven.
- 20:21A a bolide is what the scientists have concluded.
- 20:24Like an air burst like the Chelyabinsk explosion back in
- 20:28what is it 20 O 6 or the the one that blew up in in the Siberia
- 20:34back. What is it?
- 20:35Tunguska, 100 years ago, something like that over the
- 20:39North End of the Dead Sea. And God saw fit to destroy this
- 20:43city. Why?
- 20:44Where, what were these dolmens oriented toward it?
- 20:46Well, I asked the director, scientific analysis of the dig
- 20:49Doctor Philip Sylvia. He said, no, they're not aligned
- 20:53astronomically. They seem to be all pointed at
- 20:56the sacred precinct where we think the temple stood.
- 20:59Like, OK, well, who was worshipped at Sodom?
- 21:03Don't know for sure, but when Moses and the Israelites camped
- 21:06there, they got drawn into worshipping a God called Baal
- 21:09Payor, the Lord of the opening. But in that context probably
- 21:15means opening to the Netherworld, the Lord of the
- 21:18Gates of Hell. Exactly, Yeah.
- 21:20Because Psalm one O 6 verse 28 says it wasn't the fertility
- 21:25rite that the young Midianite Prince, the the Israelite Prince
- 21:29and the Midianite Princess were performing that made God angry.
- 21:32It was the fact that the Israelites were eating
- 21:34sacrifices offered to the dead. And that gets back to why we
- 21:39find this so interesting. The cult of the dead around
- 21:41ancient Israel appears to be an ancient practice going back to
- 21:46the almost the beginning of the Caucolithic, the Copper Age
- 21:49again, if Mike Friedman is right in his dating of the Dolmans and
- 21:53the megalithic sites on the Golan.
- 21:55And by the way, there are three others just like Gilgal Rifaim
- 21:59on the Golan Heights that hardly anybody knows about.
- 22:02We visited another one. We think that's that's where
- 22:05Jesus got baptized. Actually, it's on the Jordan
- 22:07Bank of the Jordan River, 2 miles north of the Sea of
- 22:09Galilee. But this cult of the dead going
- 22:13back to the beginning of the city of Sodom, which was first
- 22:16occupied around 4000 BC, just about the time maybe a little
- 22:19before Gilgal Raphaim was built on the Golan Heights.
- 22:24This is a thing we know from texts found among the
- 22:27Canaanites, that they venerated the spirits of the Raphaim or
- 22:31the Raphauma they were called. And I think the dolmans may have
- 22:34had something to do with that as part of this this ritual or the
- 22:37rituals that were performed to summon these spirits from the
- 22:40netherworld. Yeah, Derek, that is so
- 22:42fascinating. You know, I did mention before
- 22:45we got on air, I wanted to bring up these these sigils, these
- 22:48occult symbols that tie entities to a person or location.
- 22:52You know, we know in Druidism and shamanism and a lot of these
- 22:55occultic practices that are ancient and modern.
- 22:58Well, let's let's just read what what a sigil is.
- 23:01By definition, it's a type of symbol used in magic.
- 23:04The term usually refers to a pictorial signature of a spirit.
- 23:09In modern usages, especially in the context of chaos magic, a
- 23:12sigil refers to a symbol, symbolic representation of the
- 23:16practitioners desired outcome. Aerially, have we looked at the
- 23:20layout of these dolmens to see if there's any pictorial
- 23:24depiction that correlates to ancient symbolism, cultures,
- 23:27venerations that are well noted by you?
- 23:32Again, not as far as we know. Nothing that I've read in any of
- 23:35the scholarly research about dolmans, and I've tried to read
- 23:38everything that I could get my hands on that looked like it was
- 23:40fairly recent. There was an interesting
- 23:44discovery within the last 10 or 15 years northwest of the Sea of
- 23:49Galilee, a giant Crescent shaped structure on the side of a hill,
- 23:54which was thought by the earliest discoverers back in the
- 23:5819th century when the Palestine Exploration Fund sent military
- 24:03guys over there who had some archaeological training.
- 24:06But they were also reporting back to the Foreign Office
- 24:08because that's when the Ottoman Empire was believed to be
- 24:11getting weaker. And so maybe we'll send some
- 24:13archaeologists over there who just happened to, you know, look
- 24:15at where defensive emplacements are and stuff like that, just in
- 24:18case. Anyway, the earliest people who
- 24:23saw it thought it was an old city wall and just kind of wrote
- 24:26it off. But when you look at it from
- 24:28space, it is certainly a Crescent moon shape, and the
- 24:31fact that the points of the Crescent are oriented downhill
- 24:35suggests it's not a defensive structure.
- 24:38If it was a defensive structure, you'd have the points oriented
- 24:40up the hill so that your guys could be behind the wall and
- 24:44force the enemy to come up the hill at you.
- 24:46It was probably a site sacred to the moon God, whose name in
- 24:50Amorite was Yaric. To the Akkadians it was seen, to
- 24:55the Sumerians it was Nana. Now there was a city that was
- 25:00referred to by the that is called today.
- 25:06Tell. Let's see, what is it?
- 25:09Beth Beth Yarah. Beth Yarah, which means temple
- 25:12of the moon God. It's at the southwest corner of
- 25:14the Sea of Galilee. It's about 18 miles away.
- 25:17Is there a connection between that city and this moon shaped
- 25:21emplacement on the side of a hill?
- 25:23Don't know. I will say that that Crescent
- 25:24moon is huge, absolutely huge, tough to get to.
- 25:28We'd love to see it someday. I'm not sure I'm physically up
- 25:31to climbing the side of that that mountain to get up to it.
- 25:33But you again, this is another thing that you can see with
- 25:36Google Earth looking northwest from the Sea of Galilee.
- 25:40But in terms of orienting a number of these dolmens in the
- 25:44shape of a sigil, we've not seen anything like that, not in
- 25:50Israel, as far as I know. I've not come across any of that
- 25:53in the literature. You know, I wonder how they
- 25:55correlate with Ley lines, for example.
- 25:57Now, I did send you a link here just a minute ago, something
- 26:00that me and Enoch Puchers and and Dave Beverly were were kind
- 26:03of discussing. And it, it's a Google Maps link,
- 26:07Derek. But what it does is it ties
- 26:09together all in one crop circle alignment map over North America
- 26:14and you see sacred American Indian sites and current
- 26:18establishments of crop circles that have been documented
- 26:22officially. OK.
- 26:23You know, it tells you the year, the Spanish 4 crop circle of
- 26:272004, the Tenten circle 2002. You know, it goes through this
- 26:30whole list and this shape lines up with the Pleiades.
- 26:34This has been viewed over 170,000 times, you know, just by
- 26:39people interested in this, this official alignment.
- 26:43Now using that kind of perspective as I'm looking
- 26:46through ancient American Indian sites and knowing everything's
- 26:49multi layered and there's a lot of correlation through the
- 26:51ancient cultures, what they understood.
- 26:53I think it's fascinating to consider that sigil idea.
- 26:56Now you're saying there's no conclusive information at this
- 26:59point in time if dolmans in particular do line up with that.
- 27:02But the thought process might be a lens that could be slapped on
- 27:07at certain times. Well knowing what we know, sure.
- 27:10Is there a connection between dolmens and gravestones in this
- 27:13sense that you know and gravestones you know are
- 27:19typically made of granite that contain 10 to 60% quartz.
- 27:23Now, quartz, iron crystal is conductive to electricity if we
- 27:27use it in the modern day technology.
- 27:29Really when you start to look at the applications, they're
- 27:32resistant to heat to where and they do conduct electricity.
- 27:37You know, when we talked about Dolman's last, I'm going, that's
- 27:39a really fascinating idea. Now let's look at other things
- 27:43that do have some occultic background to them.
- 27:47Gravestones are introduced and we do see that they're all made
- 27:50of the same material. The skull is a place that is a
- 27:54part of the human anatomy that the occult is fascinated with
- 27:57using in order to communicate with the dead, the human skull.
- 28:01And it's like, OK, so we have a quartz eyed crystal slab of
- 28:06stone, you know, over top of the skull of humans that are being
- 28:10buried, right? And then we're looking at these
- 28:12arches and we're portals, right? Let's just, you know, well,
- 28:16opening, we're certainly going to travel.
- 28:19This is a weird connection. Totally agree with the idea that
- 28:23that dolmans are are portals. In fact, some of the dolmans
- 28:26found on the Jordan side of the river, and for the most part
- 28:31they are located dolmans in the Israel, in the area of Israel
- 28:35are found either on the Golan or east of the Jordan on the
- 28:40Jordanian side of the river. And I think it's interesting
- 28:44that when Jesus got baptized, and this is part of what we've
- 28:51included in the book, our new book The Gates of Hell is that
- 28:55he chose to be baptized according to the Gospel of John,
- 28:58John chapter 1, the geographic clues place it they they
- 29:02actually names the place these things happen in Bethany across
- 29:05the Jordan where John was baptizing.
- 29:07But there is no place east of the Jordan River, which is what
- 29:10across the Jordan means from an Israeli standpoint or the
- 29:12Israelite standpoint. The Christian scholar's been
- 29:17trying to find Bethany across the east of the Jordan for 2000
- 29:20years. It just doesn't exist.
- 29:22So a friend of Sir Charles Warren who found the Watcher's
- 29:27Stone on the summit of Mount Hermon in 1869, guy named
- 29:30Lieutenant Lieutenant Claude Condor in the early 1870s went
- 29:34looking for the place of Jesus baptism.
- 29:37I mean, that's a, you know, place of historical
- 29:39significance. I mean, look, the Holy Spirit
- 29:41came down here. It would be nice to know where
- 29:42this was. He noted that the King James
- 29:48translation in John one verse 28 reads not Bethany, it reads Beth
- 29:54Abara or Beth Abara ABARA. This is because in the 3rd
- 29:59century, the Christian theologian origin went looking
- 30:03for the location and even though origin in the two hundreds AD
- 30:08said well or wrote even though the earliest manuscripts of the
- 30:13Gospel of John read Bethania, that can't be true because no
- 30:17one around here I'm paraphrasing.
- 30:19Of course, no one around here knows where it is.
- 30:20So I'm going to say it's this place, Beth Ebara, which means
- 30:24House of the Crossing, and Jerome, who translated the Latin
- 30:28Vulgate, followed origin in Beth Ebara and that's what the King
- 30:32James translators use. They assumed it was a specific
- 30:35location, but nobody knows where that is either.
- 30:38So Condor, 1871, I think in a paper that he wrote for the
- 30:42Palestine Exploration Fund, wrote that because the oldest
- 30:47manuscripts of John read Bethania, we need to look at
- 30:51that again at Bethania, which he said is probably a Greek
- 30:54transliteration of the Latin name Botania, which means
- 30:58Bashan. Bashan across the Jordan.
- 31:01So Jesus didn't get baptized down near Jericho, which would
- 31:04have been really interesting because that region again, is
- 31:08between Jericho and what was Sodom.
- 31:12That would have been a very interesting place.
- 31:14But north of the Jordan, east of the Jordan River, OK, or at
- 31:19least on the east bank, Bethany across the Jordan, Bashan across
- 31:23the Jordan is where Jesus got baptized.
- 31:25Well, Bashan in the ancient world was literally known to be
- 31:28the place of the dead, the entrance to the netherworld, and
- 31:31Jesus chose that place to be baptized.
- 31:33Now, what were these monuments used for?
- 31:36As I mentioned, by the way, there's a, there's a site very
- 31:38like Gilgal Raphaim, 2 miles north of the Sea of Galilee on
- 31:42the east Bank of the Jordan. The bank sloped down about 7580
- 31:45feet to the Jordan River there, which is a very wide place that
- 31:49the Jordan flows through. The valley apparently was filled
- 31:52with water at some point. The water's gone down, but the
- 31:55Jordan still flows through it. But what's interesting about the
- 31:57bank sloping down the way it does is it makes a very natural
- 32:00place for a lot of people to sit and listen to somebody who's
- 32:04preaching down there at Riverside and maybe baptizing.
- 32:08And it's only half a mile from Bethsaida, which was the
- 32:11hometown of Andrew and Peter and Philip, the first 3 disciples
- 32:16called. So anyway, that's why we think
- 32:19this is where Jesus got baptized.
- 32:21Now, what are dolmans used for? Our friend Doctor Stephen
- 32:25Collins, he and his team found as they were looking at these
- 32:32dolmans at the base of the ruins of the city and found one that
- 32:36was kind of obscured from view, which is kind of important in
- 32:39Jordan because as I mentioned, it's a, it's an impoverished
- 32:42country, Natural resources are few, got very little water, lots
- 32:46of sand and rock, but that's about it.
- 32:48So enterprising young men who aren't afraid to work at night
- 32:53will follow archaeologists into the field and watch where
- 32:56they're digging. And when the archaeologists go
- 32:59home, go to go back to the hotel for the night, the night diggers
- 33:02come out and they start excavating and trying to find
- 33:06relics that they can sell on the black market that actually
- 33:10helped the team last year. They actually uncovered a
- 33:12section of Bronze Age wall that they didn't know was there.
- 33:14So thank you, night diggers. But the night diggers had missed
- 33:17this one dolman. And so they were able to
- 33:21excavate a dolman that had not been disturbed since the city
- 33:26was destroyed around 1700 BC. They found based on the pottery
- 33:32inside that it, it had been pretty much continuous use since
- 33:36the city almost since the city was built around 4000 BC or
- 33:39thereabouts, based on the changing styles of pottery.
- 33:42Their theory was this. They didn't find any human
- 33:45remains in there other than little bits of bone like a
- 33:48finger bone or a toe bone or something, almost like a relic.
- 33:51So their theory was this, that or at least around Sodom, that
- 33:57dolmans were used for a sky burial.
- 34:00In other words, on the table top of the dolmen you would put your
- 34:03deceased relative and let the birds pick the carcass clean.
- 34:07And then when the bones were clean, then you gathered them up
- 34:10and then you would deposit them in a shaft grave down in the
- 34:14valley. And they did find these shaft
- 34:15graves with human remains in it. But the dolmans were used
- 34:18probably for some sort of ritual dedicated to the cult of the
- 34:21dead, where maybe once a year you would go and you would
- 34:24deposit offerings like pottery or jewelry or a bone, You know,
- 34:29you'd go to the grave, get a finger bone.
- 34:31OK, here's grandpa's finger bone.
- 34:32We'll put it in here with. Now, why did they do that?
- 34:34We don't know. There's no writing inside to
- 34:37tell us. The team was hoping last year as
- 34:41they were excavating because they found the site of the
- 34:43palace. They were hoping to find the
- 34:44archives but didn't. And again, the Jordanian
- 34:49government is now saying, you know, forget it or somebody.
- 34:53There's, there was a change, I think with the Antiquities
- 34:55authority that that may have had something to do with it.
- 34:57I, I don't know. But sadly, they weren't able to
- 35:00go back and they're very frustrated.
- 35:01They would like to go back and see if they can find written
- 35:04records there, but no, no such luck.
- 35:07But what they did find was very interesting.
- 35:08The style of pottery and some of the other clues they found at
- 35:14that site suggest that there was a a link between Sodom and the
- 35:19Minoan culture from the island of Crete, which was from the
- 35:24Aegean. The connection there to the
- 35:25Mycenaean Greeks and the proto Greek culture that predated the
- 35:31rise of the Mycenaean Greeks because that really didn't come
- 35:34into being until about 5 or 600 years after Sodom was destroyed.
- 35:39Anyway, that is their theory about how dolmans were used now
- 35:42was that the truth was that was that true also for the Golan
- 35:46Heights? Don't know.
- 35:48I mean on the Golan, since it's basically on top of a basalt
- 35:52slab, digging deep into the the earth to try to bury your
- 35:56relatives would really be a trick.
- 35:58So not sure. Not sure.
- 36:00And because those have all been robbed out through antiquity,
- 36:04This is why they can't use the little bits and pieces that they
- 36:06found around the dolmans elsewhere to date them because
- 36:11they may have been reused at a later date.
- 36:14You know, you find this, this great structures like, hey, we
- 36:17can block up the entrance here. Let's use this as a tomb.
- 36:20That way we don't have to haul these big rocks around to bury
- 36:22dad or whatever. But the one at Sodom that they
- 36:25found had clearly been sealed and never opened again because
- 36:28it was still full of stuff that would have been very valuable on
- 36:32an antiquities on the antiquities market.
- 36:34So possible that not gravestones per SE, but certainly used in
- 36:41rituals for the deceased ancestors and the cult of the
- 36:45dead. I'm going to move on to this
- 36:48next question. It's going to seem like an
- 36:50oddball. There is some reporting on pink
- 36:53Himalayan salt possibly being tied back to what some people
- 36:56consider to be Nephilim flesh. There's some experiments that
- 36:59were done by a gentleman using a piece of red meat.
- 37:03He soaked it in a 3.5% saltine water to mimic the ocean and he
- 37:08let it set for a 10 year period and within that time frame it
- 37:11turned to stone. So that same man took some DNA
- 37:14samples from a stone and they came back human.
- 37:17The finger of which which this this research can be found
- 37:20extensively went through by Enoch from the Rundown of our
- 37:24Reality, which is a good friend of the podcast here.
- 37:26It was a 36 inch long finger. There's APDF file with all of
- 37:29this information on his channel. The Nephilim flesh is being
- 37:33rumoured to be of pink Himalayan salt.
- 37:37Even at visual standpoint, you're like, that's, that's
- 37:39pretty provocative. But these mines where we're
- 37:44getting pink Himalayan salt from and it, it we're finding out
- 37:48it's not actually healthy for you.
- 37:49It's high in metals as well, which that's a whole nother
- 37:53connection. Me and Vicki Joey Anderson,
- 37:54we're diving into in a recent episode talking about parasites.
- 37:57And you know, that's, that's a loaded conversation.
- 38:00But you know, what I really want to do is just ask, are you
- 38:02familiar with with pink Himalayan salt being rumoured to
- 38:05possibly be Nephilim flesh? Is that something that's new on
- 38:08the radar? OK.
- 38:09New, new on the radar. Yeah, we got some in our closet.
- 38:12We use it so hope it's not true. Hopefully it's not I, I did
- 38:18shift to Celtic sea salt after doing a little bit of a deep
- 38:21dive, just just enough that I'm like, you know, we all have a
- 38:24little something wrong and a little something right, and I'm
- 38:27just not trading what might be something I don't want to
- 38:30consume for another salt that tastes just as good.
- 38:33Derek, let's move into Dragons. You know, I heard you talking
- 38:36about the Bronze Age, right? Copper's mentioned in the Bible.
- 38:38It actually covers bronze as, as, as being copper the the root
- 38:41word there. But what I found to be
- 38:44interesting is the Hebrew word nahash, which means serpent, is
- 38:48also a root word in the Hebrew for copper or brass.
- 38:52And they have some distinct meanings and connections about
- 38:54how these words are being used, how they're considered
- 38:57symbolically the representation of serpents in the ancient
- 39:00world. But we're also getting the
- 39:02understanding that it means shiny, which which we get this
- 39:05correlation to this idea of copper, brass, bronze.
- 39:09It emerges in the international standard version of Nahash being
- 39:14translated as the shining 1 instead of the serpent, which is
- 39:17highlighted. And then hash is not a reptile.
- 39:20We know that. OK, yeah, that that the kind of
- 39:23work has been covered. But does this fit in with
- 39:27Seraphim at all the rumors of reptilian races?
- 39:30A lot of people do weird things with this information.
- 39:33I want to look through a biblical filter.
- 39:34I want to know what does your mind do with that Seraphim, The
- 39:38Nahash being correlating to copper, which conducts
- 39:41electricity. We are copper depleted according
- 39:43to Doctor Monza's research. We did a four part series
- 39:46extensively diving into copper depletion and being being loaded
- 39:50full of iron and anemia only shows because it's it's done
- 39:55through a blood test, Eric, where the iron is not being
- 39:58spread through the blood because parasites have been known to
- 40:01feast on iron as well. But anyway, with that messy kind
- 40:06of question there, how do we, how do we understand reptilians,
- 40:09serpents, the dragon, Seraphim help me understand all of this?
- 40:14Yeah, in Numbers chapter 21, when the Israelites were
- 40:17complaining about God, you know, why, why have you brought us out
- 40:22of Egypt to die in the wilderness?
- 40:24There's no food, no water. We loathe this worthless food.
- 40:26That was the manna that they were getting, which is called
- 40:29bread of heaven in the Gospel of John.
- 40:31So you know, if you're going to complain about that, you're,
- 40:34you're definitely need to rethink your, your worldview.
- 40:37So according to this in Numbers chapter 21, beginning in verse
- 40:406, the Lord that's Yahweh sent fiery serpents among the people
- 40:45and they bit the people so that many of the people, many people
- 40:47of Israel died. Now fiery serpents that in
- 40:51Scripture is Seraphim Nakashim. OK, Seraphim Nakashim.
- 40:57Now we know the seraphim from Isaiah chapter 6 where he has
- 41:00his throne room vision are those strange throne guardians who are
- 41:04protecting the throne of Yahweh from those who would approach.
- 41:08They are serving the same capacity as the caravim.
- 41:11I I know it says cherubim in in English, we are reliably
- 41:15informed by our Hebrew speaking Jewish friends it is caravim.
- 41:18So we'll say it that way. The Caribbean, the four living
- 41:21creatures around the throne in the Book of Revelation, the
- 41:24Caribbean that Ezekiel sees in Ezekiel 1 and Ezekiel 10, the
- 41:28seraphim and Isaiah 6 are are serving essentially the same
- 41:32purpose. And seraph, the root word from
- 41:37Hebrew appears to mean burning. So the burning ones.
- 41:40But Seraphim Nakashim in Numbers chapter 21 and also in
- 41:45Deuteronomy 8:15, praises Yahweh for bringing Israel through the
- 41:51great and terrifying wilderness with its fiery serpents.
- 41:54Again, the seraphim Nakashim. This seems to suggest that there
- 41:59is some interchangeability between Nakash, which is the
- 42:02serpent in the garden who tempted Adam and Eve.
- 42:05Yeah, I know Paul said Eve was the one who fell into sin, but
- 42:08Adam was standing right there. Genesis says her husband was
- 42:12with her, so it's on Adam anyway.
- 42:16This suggests that what you're, what you're looking at is, as
- 42:20you say, a, a radiant being as Nakash has the sense of glowing
- 42:25or like like shining like polished brass.
- 42:30And Seraphim, who are these, these six winged creatures who
- 42:34defended or protected God on his throne.
- 42:39So what you're looking at perhaps when you're talking
- 42:42about the Seraphim is a, a winged creature, radiant in
- 42:49appearance that has a Serpentine, also Serpentine in
- 42:56appearance, Nakash. So what would you call a flying,
- 43:01radiant or perhaps fiery serpent other than a dragon?
- 43:06I mean, this is we, we wrote this in our book Giants, Gods
- 43:09and Dragons. So I, I think this is a kind of
- 43:14a no brainer when you look at the Hebrew, I, I know that there
- 43:18are naturalistic explanations where, where scholars like to
- 43:21say, well, this is the sawtooth Viper that was common in the
- 43:24Negev really. I mean flying fiery serpents.
- 43:27OK, Seraphim Nakashim the seraphim 6 wings.
- 43:33OK, well, the hood of the the the Ureus serpent, which was the
- 43:39symbol of protection worn on the headdress of the the Pharaohs of
- 43:43Egypt. The hood of that cobra has six
- 43:46colors, you know, 3 on each side.
- 43:47So it looks like wings. Yeah.
- 43:49OK. You're just trying to find a
- 43:50naturalistic explanation for something that is really
- 43:53supernatural. So I think that's what we're
- 43:56talking about. We get the Dragons.
- 43:57The word dragon appears in the Old Testament and in the New
- 44:00Testament it is applied to Leviathan the the chaos monster.
- 44:06It's applied to Satan in Revelation chapter 12, the seven
- 44:09headed red dragon. Then you got the seven headed
- 44:11creature, the beast that emerges in Revelation 13, which sounds
- 44:15like a weird chimera. Rather it's got aspects of
- 44:19leopard and lion and bear. Oh my.
- 44:22But that's exactly how Dragons were depicted in ancient
- 44:24Mesopotamia. They looked like, OK, it looks
- 44:28kind of feline here, but it's got a Serpentine aspect here,
- 44:32and it's also got wings. So yeah, that's, that's how they
- 44:36depicted Dragons in the ancient world.
- 44:37So John knew that his readers would have known that.
- 44:43It is sad that the reason we wrote the book Giants, Gods and
- 44:48Dragons was to try to remind Christians that the Bible's a
- 44:53really supernatural book and some of the creatures are really
- 44:56weird and, you know, God is calling these things giants,
- 44:59gods and Dragons. So maybe we should pay
- 45:03attention. I mean, it really was was
- 45:05inspired by the story a few years ago that players of the
- 45:08book or players of the the the game Dungeons and Dragons were
- 45:12upset that the orcs were always depicted as evil.
- 45:16OK, Orcs taken from the writing of JRR Tolkien, Lord of the
- 45:20Rings. They were, if you read his back
- 45:23story in the Silmarillion, that orcs were, were twisted elves,
- 45:29though they were elves who'd been tortured and twisted and
- 45:31turned into these inherently evil creatures.
- 45:34They were just flat evil. There was nothing good, no
- 45:37redeeming character about them. But the players of Dungeons and
- 45:42Dragons started protesting the developer of the game Dungeons
- 45:45and Dragons, because, well, it's clearly because the orcs have
- 45:50colored skin. They're they're, they're
- 45:52creatures of color. And so this is racist.
- 45:55And, you know, it's like, you roll your eyes and you can laugh
- 45:58and say, OK, these people are protesting racism against
- 46:02imaginary characters made-up by JRR Tolkien that have been kind
- 46:05of rolled into the accepted Canon of fantasy fiction.
- 46:12But then when you start asking Christians what they believe
- 46:15about the Bible and what in the Bible is true, a majority of
- 46:18American Christians don't think Satan is real, much less Dragons
- 46:23or gods, even though God refers to them by those terms.
- 46:27So we can laugh at the players of the game protesting because
- 46:30fictional creatures are being treated unfairly, but here we
- 46:33Christians are with the word of God describing these creatures
- 46:36and say Nah, we don't believe that.
- 46:38Like, OK, take it up with the author.
- 46:44Well, all mindsets that are not washing the word of God are
- 46:48definitely susceptible to twisting and terrible different
- 46:52things. And and it it what's going on in
- 46:54our generation today. People should not have enough
- 46:57time on their hands, in my opinion, to be able to make a
- 47:01plea in an argument like that. So there's a lot of things
- 47:04wrong. Why first?
- 47:05World problems, Yeah, yeah. So, Derek, I do want to talk
- 47:09about, you know, dinosaurs here for a second and and the the
- 47:12reason I want to do this and the Greek Dinos right, meaning
- 47:16terrible or fearfully great terrible lizard and sorrows,
- 47:19reptile or lizard. And what I think is interesting
- 47:22is, you know, the, the the term dinosaur gets coined.
- 47:26It was in the 19th century, I believe it.
- 47:28It becomes Sir Richard Owen, a British scientists,
- 47:34paleontologists, just you know, discovers these quote UN quote
- 47:37skeletons, coins, the term dinosaurs.
- 47:40It becomes popularized. I agree.
- 47:41I'm a 90s kid. This is the millennial mustard
- 47:43seed. I'm a millennial Jurassic Park,
- 47:45right. All of these things.
- 47:46Well, I'm thinking God is saying do not make graven images of
- 47:49anything that's found in the heavens or on the earth.
- 47:52And you look at all the toys and all the sculptures that are
- 47:56young kids playing with something that is clearly being
- 47:59represented through the Bible. We've discussed Dragons.
- 48:01I have no beef with that. I'm on board, man.
- 48:04I'm into the narrative of the Bible being supreme over
- 48:08people's denominational preferences or capabilities to
- 48:12even comprehend what's going on here.
- 48:14But I do consider now we have the world filled with dinosaur
- 48:18toys, which seems to be a cute little term that was coined
- 48:22about these ancient reptiles. Are we in disobedience?
- 48:26Is this opening up, you know, high and lofty ideas, images
- 48:31that need to be cast down? Well, what are your thoughts?
- 48:33That's a good. Question I I I don't think so,
- 48:37and maybe it's because when I was a kid I thought dinosaurs
- 48:40were the coolest thing ever. Had a birthday party when I was
- 48:43young that was dinosaur themed. It it's hard to argue that
- 48:46they're really intriguing and that the young people would find
- 48:50it very fascinating. I I think the prohibition
- 48:53against images is important to understand.
- 48:57It was because idols in the ancient world carved images
- 49:02engraved in stone, carved blocks of wood or stone, representing
- 49:05an entity that was not in itself what was worshipped.
- 49:09What what it did was gave locality to the deity that it
- 49:13represented. So you weren't worshipping the
- 49:17the image, the figure of Baal, Baal, whatever, but that's where
- 49:23he would appear when you prayed to him, that's where he would
- 49:24go. It was sort of like a spiritual
- 49:26radio tuner tuned to whatever deity it was supposed to
- 49:31represent. So if a child playing with a toy
- 49:37stegosaur is not worshipping an entity that is believed to be
- 49:43represented by the stegosaur, I don't think there's a problem
- 49:46with that, and I think it can open some conversations about
- 49:50God's creation and how awesome it was.
- 49:53Now, why did God see fit to destroy the dinosaurs?
- 49:58There are a number of answers to that.
- 49:59Perhaps it happened during the flood of Noah.
- 50:02Perhaps these dinosaurs were never supposed to exist because
- 50:07they were created by the Watcher class angels, the Watcher class
- 50:15Elohim, more more accurately, as an abomination.
- 50:20And you know, the Bible's not explicit about this.
- 50:23There is some evidence in the book of Jubilees and the book of
- 50:27First Enoch which are not in the Bible, but they do help
- 50:31understand some of the more difficult sections of Scripture
- 50:34that perhaps the the watchers who rebelled sinned against God
- 50:40by crossing the species barrier, not just with humanity, as we
- 50:44read in Genesis chapter 6, which was absolutely forbidden, but
- 50:47perhaps also with the the animal realm as well.
- 50:50And that's where these monstrous reptiles or lizards came from.
- 50:57So I don't know, I don't have a definite answer for that, but I
- 51:02do believe that the Earth is a lot younger than secular
- 51:08paleontologists believe. I mean, the fact that they found
- 51:11and even admit now, because it's kind of hard to deny that they
- 51:14found soft tissue like collagen and blood vessels preserved in
- 51:20dinosaur bones that are supposed to be at least 65,000,000 years
- 51:24old. And prior to this discovery,
- 51:26which is less than 30 years ago now when the first reports came
- 51:30out that hey, they found blood vessels and heme molecules,
- 51:33which is the main component of hemoglobin that have been
- 51:36preserved in AT Rex leg bone. Well, we thought these sorts of
- 51:41tissues and molecules couldn't be preserved even in permafrost
- 51:45for more than a few 1000 years. So instead of saying, hmm, maybe
- 51:49our timeline is off, they said, well, what do you know?
- 51:53You can preserve soft tissue for 65,000,000 years because we know
- 51:57those bones are 65,000,000 years old.
- 52:00Uh huh. OK, it's kind of circular logic
- 52:02there. Do you see?
- 52:04Whatever we can just, you know, smile and just say, bless your
- 52:08pointy little head. I, I, you know, for me, it's not
- 52:13a something to be really worked up about.
- 52:15There are really great ministries, creation ministries
- 52:18that deal with this in a much better way than I can or I do.
- 52:23I mean, that's not my calling. So I, I just think that perhaps
- 52:28some memory of those may be preserved in some of these
- 52:34things that are in, in scripture, like perhaps
- 52:37Behemoth, but which which sounds like a sauropod to me.
- 52:41It's certainly not a hippopotamus, but again, I I'm
- 52:47not that's not a theological hill I'm going to die on.
- 52:51Yeah, I was looking more from the perspective of these newer
- 52:53Jurassic Park movies and how they're presenting to, you know,
- 52:57seeding the minds of these generations.
- 53:00That's chimericism is very active and alive in the
- 53:04imagination and and this creativity and it it you know
- 53:07when we have a church population that is unaware of the the
- 53:11fallen angelic view that the Bible clearly states Genesis 64
- 53:16right we have the C4. You know, we have these threads
- 53:20that have been very well pushed by by many great people have
- 53:23went out before me and I I take that framework and I look what
- 53:26are they seeding into the minds of people, right.
- 53:28Our subconscious minds are very susceptible to to to the
- 53:31culture, especially in in the younger ages.
- 53:33We're growing up fascination nostalgia with Jurassic Park.
- 53:37And then they're they're literally mutating these
- 53:39dinosaurs and and in one of the movies it has a little girl's
- 53:43DNA introduced into it. And this thing is more of a
- 53:46horror movie. This is no longer a sauropod
- 53:49trotting along with a 1992 Jeep from the original Jurassic Park.
- 53:53We, we are talking a very terrible, menacing creature that
- 53:57is haunting the minds of people who have watched it, especially
- 54:00young kids. So I'm looking.
- 54:01No, I, I know if we have a church population that doesn't
- 54:03understand these things, but yet the entertainment industry is
- 54:06predominantly taking the minds of people, I think the argument
- 54:09should be presented. And I don't mean dinosaurs and
- 54:12having a toy dinosaur, yeah, it's a cultic and all the sudden
- 54:15you have open doors. But I think being provocative
- 54:18and bringing that kind of thought process up maybe to
- 54:20culture shock people, gets them to think about.
- 54:22It you make it, you make a really good point.
- 54:25And I would argue that superhero movies are probably even more to
- 54:30be warned against because you got the you've got kids who are
- 54:34looking at the superheroes who are often enhanced humans in
- 54:38some way, sometimes through science, sometimes through
- 54:42genetic, you know, the X-Men, sometimes they're sometimes
- 54:47they're semi divine. You know, it you, you can even
- 54:51take that further, like say to Percy Jackson and the Olympians
- 54:55films or or books. Rick Reardon has spawned a whole
- 54:59cottage industry now. And Disney under the Hyperion
- 55:03label is publishing not just the Greek pantheon where the kids
- 55:08are the demigod children of the gods.
- 55:10But then you got a Norse, an Egyptian, a Korean, a, a Hindu
- 55:16and A and a Mayan version. Other authors that are writing
- 55:19under the Rick Reardon presents label.
- 55:22And you know, they've, they've even got study guides out there
- 55:25for teachers who are, are to ask children questions like which
- 55:29God, which Roman or which Greek God would you want to be your
- 55:32parent? You know, basically asking who
- 55:35would you want to be your Nephilim parent, you know, or
- 55:38you, you if you're going to be a net one of that's weird.
- 55:41Who will be? And you can find these study
- 55:44guides at, at at the website for, for the publisher.
- 55:47So, and a lot of parents will look at these things and say,
- 55:50well, you know, it's getting Johnny to read, so who cares?
- 55:52It's, it's a good thing. I went to a, a bookstore for the
- 55:55first time in, in years yesterday.
- 55:58We, we live kind of out in the country.
- 56:00So for us to go to a bookstore, it's about a, you know, 2 hour
- 56:03round trip and I I've gotten to the point now where I realize
- 56:09that the this what they stock on the shelves at Barnes and Noble
- 56:13and books-a-million is not for people like Sharon and me.
- 56:17We're going to find things that we want for independent
- 56:21publishers through online bookstores or or the academic
- 56:24the writing get from yeah, you. Guys are I wasn't going to.
- 56:28Say that, but thank you thank you well, I.
- 56:30Will say. Well, and anyway, but we're
- 56:33we're we're diving deeper into the subject material than than
- 56:36what's available to these stores.
- 56:38But what's right up front when you walk right in our series by,
- 56:41you know, New York Times best selling author and I start
- 56:43looking at this and it's aimed at young, young girls, mainly
- 56:47teen fiction, young adult fiction, mainly aimed at girls.
- 56:51And it's all about, you know, half blood this and half blood
- 56:55this and and angelic father this and finds out on her 18th
- 57:00birthday that she is a Polygon. And, you know, like, OK, it's a
- 57:04twisted theology based on this idea that, hey, you're a teen
- 57:08and nobody understands you because you're really one of
- 57:11the, you know, you, you really divine.
- 57:13You got angelic blood in you. And and that was just one
- 57:16series. This has been ongoing for a long
- 57:18time. So you got Percy Jackson.
- 57:20I mean, Rick Reardon is not the problem.
- 57:23He's just a symptom. There's a lot of that that's
- 57:25being put out there to young readers.
- 57:27You know, they had a Christian parents need to be discerning
- 57:29and just say, look, you know, Harry Potter, OK, most of these
- 57:32series are not nearly as popular as as Harry Potter or even the
- 57:37Percy Jackson series. But there seems to be a lot of
- 57:41focus on that or on, you know, the, the vampire fiction that
- 57:47somehow this this appeal to the the bad boy, like the Twilight
- 57:51series, which was huge, drawing in young readers.
- 57:55I think as Christians, Christian parents, grandparents, we need
- 57:58to have this conversation. It's like, OK, I understand why
- 58:00this story is appealing to you, but you do understand that these
- 58:04types of entities are not just made-up, they are real.
- 58:08And the Bible has some things to say about them.
- 58:10I mean, yeah, there's even a reference in the Old Testament
- 58:13to vampires. It's usually translated as
- 58:16leeches in into English the word and I forget where the reference
- 58:19is Ludlicker. Is it the Amalekites?
- 58:23No, no, no. There's, there's, there's a
- 58:26verse, then I forget where it is, but if there's a reference,
- 58:28if you do a word search for leeches, it will, it will pop
- 58:31up, but you look, dig deeper into that word and you find
- 58:35that. OK, wait, there's a spiritual
- 58:37connection here. It's talking about like a
- 58:38supernatural blood sucker. Yeah, fascinating.
- 58:42So there there's that I would also suggest if you've not
- 58:45watched the movie Godzilla, King of Monsters that you do it
- 58:49because this the religious themes in that movie are just
- 58:52off the chart. We we've talked about this in a
- 58:57number of our programs. I'm sure that when we we bring
- 59:01this into unraveling Revelation, which is carried on the PTL
- 59:04network, I'm sure the viewers on PTL like what they're talking
- 59:07about Godzilla. Well, yeah, Godzilla is depicted
- 59:11in this as the king of the Titans.
- 59:14OK, the Titans giving you the short form are the sons of God
- 59:19from Genesis chapter 6. They are in Tartarus according
- 59:23to Peter Second Peter 2 verse four, God thrust them down to
- 59:27not hell. The Greek word is Tartarosis,
- 59:29Tartarus. That's not Hades.
- 59:31That's a separate place for supernatural rebels.
- 59:35The Godzilla movies have rebranded the the monster verse
- 59:38films that have come out since 2014 have rebranded Godzilla and
- 59:42Rodan and Mothra and King Ghidorah and these others as
- 59:46Titans, the original and rightful rulers of Earth.
- 59:52And what you see in Godzilla King of Monsters is a battle
- 59:56between Godzilla and Ghidorah. OK Jesus when he was confronted
- 1:00:01by scribes and Pharisees, he was accused of casting out demons by
- 1:00:05the power of Beelzebul. That means Baal the Prince Jesus
- 1:00:09response is Matthew 12 beginning of verse 22.
- 1:00:12He says if Satan casts out demons by his own power, how
- 1:00:17will Satan's Kingdom stand? Oh OK, that's good information.
- 1:00:21You know Baal, the storm God is Satan.
- 1:00:26Well, Baal was known to the Greeks as Zeus and to the Romans
- 1:00:30as Jupiter, and to the Norse as Thor and the Slavs as Paran and
- 1:00:34on and on and on. And it all the Indra of the
- 1:00:37Hindu or the the ancient Vedic religion was king of the gods as
- 1:00:43well. This story was repeated under
- 1:00:45different names over and over and over.
- 1:00:48So Ghidorah in the films is clearly the storm God.
- 1:00:54It's a category 6 hurricane and it's changing direction.
- 1:00:57How can that be? Oh, that's Ghidorah.
- 1:00:59Well, Godzilla comes from his underground lair, like, you
- 1:01:03know, Tartarus to do battle with the storm God.
- 1:01:06It's like the Greek myth between Kronos, who was overthrown by
- 1:01:11the storm God Zeus for control of the world.
- 1:01:15My book The Second Coming of Saturn is about Daddy Saturn,
- 1:01:19Kronos L of the Canaanites, you know, and by a number of other
- 1:01:23names, who was replaced by the Storm God coming back and
- 1:01:27retaking his position at the top of the pantheon.
- 1:01:30And that I think is what you got depicted in Godzilla, King of
- 1:01:35Monsters. Godzilla, King of the Titans,
- 1:01:38original and rightful rulers of Earth, coming back to rule and
- 1:01:43restore balance to Earth. All these ecological disasters,
- 1:01:46they're being cured somehow by the radiation from Godzilla.
- 1:01:50Like, really, you're making this a green thing on top of
- 1:01:54everything else? But yeah, there are a lot of
- 1:01:58because many of the Titans that reemerge in this film are have
- 1:02:03names like Abaddon and Apollyon and Methuselah and biblical
- 1:02:09names. It's it's not coincidence.
- 1:02:13And and when they go down to to resurrect Godzilla, who'd come
- 1:02:18out worse on the on the wrong side of the first fight with
- 1:02:21with Ghidorah, they go into an area that is guarded on the two
- 1:02:25sides. This little submarine had to
- 1:02:27enter by the Lama Sioux, which were the guardians outside the
- 1:02:32the, the the palace of the Assyrian king at Nineveh.
- 1:02:35They're they're on display now at the British Museum.
- 1:02:38They are the caravan human head, bull like body, wings of an
- 1:02:43eagle, paws of a lion, the caravan human ox, eagle, lion.
- 1:02:50That's how they're described by Ezekiel.
- 1:02:53They're they're guarding the entrance to Godzilla's lair.
- 1:02:57They are the throne guardians protecting the God Godzilla.
- 1:03:03It's, I mean, to me this is even more overt than the Percy
- 1:03:07Jackson movies, the Harry Potter movies, the the Twilight films
- 1:03:11and books, Godzilla, King of Monsters, and this idea that the
- 1:03:15Titans need to come back to restore balance to Earth because
- 1:03:19we humans are a virus that are causing Earth to overheat.
- 1:03:25Like man. I mean, there was always an
- 1:03:28ecological theme in the old Toho films or Tojo at Toho anyway,
- 1:03:34the Godzilla films out of Japan back in the day when it was guys
- 1:03:37in rubber suits. But now with the CGI and the
- 1:03:39messaging and, you know, there are people looking at this
- 1:03:43stuff, it's like, wow, hey, could that really be No, no,
- 1:03:50it's not. Titans are bad.
- 1:03:52They want to come out and they do get out.
- 1:03:54Revelation 9 Apollyon is Shemyaza, who is Saturn, Kronos,
- 1:04:01etcetera etcetera and he wants to kill us all.
- 1:04:04I, I think even zooming out, you, you were talking about
- 1:04:08there's, there's these characters in these books that
- 1:04:11young teens and, and girls and boys are reading and, and Doctor
- 1:04:14Laura talks about these epigenetic markers.
- 1:04:17And you know, from a psychological standpoint,
- 1:04:20turning on and off these decisions and and entertaining
- 1:04:23these decisions do affect US significantly out through the
- 1:04:27course of our life that that's a whole nother wavelength.
- 1:04:30But I see that it plugs into what you're saying.
- 1:04:32We zoom out to the macrocosm, Derek, and the enemy is taking
- 1:04:36every opportunity specifically in this technology driven
- 1:04:40entertainment age that we currently are living in.
- 1:04:43I'm a millennial. I'm right on the Cosby.
- 1:04:44Remember when we we didn't have fancy phones, we had a flip
- 1:04:48phone. You had to hit the one button
- 1:04:49three times to get a letter that you wanted to get to text.
- 1:04:52And now, you know, I remember when the completely acceleration
- 1:04:55of this. Yeah.
- 1:04:56Oh, yeah. Even before that, I remember my
- 1:04:58dad had a car phone that was the size of a cinder block.
- 1:05:01And so, you know, bringing people back to the interest of
- 1:05:05the biblical narrative, the eternal word that is settled in
- 1:05:08heaven and the one name that can save, I think is a duty of of us
- 1:05:13who are aware of what's going on.
- 1:05:14I think you guys inculcate very well then and bring the intrigue
- 1:05:17through your writings, you and your wife and and the whole
- 1:05:20foundation that you've been laying.
- 1:05:22Certainly as being a millennial, you are one of the people that
- 1:05:25I've stood on your shoulders at times through your research,
- 1:05:28through your work to peer into other areas and and think it's
- 1:05:32multi layered. It's all connected.
- 1:05:33The enemy is in OverDrive to capture the minds because the
- 1:05:37Bible says wash your mind in the word of God, right to renew your
- 1:05:41thinking and the the warfare is ever present man and and I just
- 1:05:46I'm fascinated by these these Godzilla connections are cool.
- 1:05:49I didn't really, really ever think of that or look into that.
- 1:05:51Gary Wayne has been on a seven or eight or nine times.
- 1:05:55I'm losing count here. But I I've reloaded an episode
- 1:05:58with him recently called Sinocephali, Dogmans, lichens
- 1:06:02and werewolves. And he's literally we're going
- 1:06:04through and looking at the etymology of some of these words
- 1:06:08and what what is actually happening here.
- 1:06:10And it makes the Bible come alive for me even more so.
- 1:06:14And, and listeners would agree, man.
- 1:06:16So, you know, as we kind of wind down, you know, what I want to
- 1:06:19ask you is, is what do you believe is the most important
- 1:06:23message for the millennial generation today?
- 1:06:26You know, we're growing up. We're starting to take roles of
- 1:06:30significance in the world. What do you have to speak to the
- 1:06:34millennial generation? That the spiritual war depicted
- 1:06:40in the Bible is real. This is anchored by the
- 1:06:43resurrection of Jesus. This is really what it took me.
- 1:06:45I mean, Sharon knew from a very early age that it was real.
- 1:06:49She wanted to accept Jesus, go up the aisle and make that
- 1:06:51declaration of faith. When she was like 3, her parents
- 1:06:53made her wait till she was seven.
- 1:06:55I think I did when I was 12, but didn't really understand what it
- 1:07:00meant. It wasn't until I was about 35
- 1:07:02that I really said, OK, I understand this is real.
- 1:07:05And what it took for me was looking at the evidence when you
- 1:07:10read First Corinthians chapter 15 and you see that the apostle
- 1:07:14Paul, writing to the church at Corinth, told him that, hey, the
- 1:07:18resurrection of Jesus is real and it's key to Christian
- 1:07:22theology. And here's how you know this is
- 1:07:24real. He appeared.
- 1:07:25He appeared first. The risen Christ appeared first
- 1:07:28to Peter Kefus in First Corinthians 15, then to James,
- 1:07:33then to the 12, then the 500 brothers all at once, some of
- 1:07:37whom have fallen asleep, but most are still alive.
- 1:07:41Why did he put that in there? What he's saying is resurrection
- 1:07:46is key to Christian theology. If you don't believe me that
- 1:07:50this man Jesus literally bodily rose again from the dead, send
- 1:07:55somebody to Jerusalem and ask around, because there are still
- 1:07:58hundreds of witnesses 20 years after the event who will swear
- 1:08:01to it. The other thing about that that
- 1:08:04really, really impacted me was the mention of Jesus half
- 1:08:11brother James because he was martyred around the year 62AD.
- 1:08:18If anyone had been in a position to know that the resurrection
- 1:08:22was fake, it would have been James.
- 1:08:25I mean, this is a kid who grew up with Jesus and in John
- 1:08:29Chapter 7 verse 5, I believe Alok, who said to make sure I'm
- 1:08:33not citing the wrong verse. He we, we read that his brothers
- 1:08:37didn't believe in him. No one works in secret.
- 1:08:43His brothers are trying to convince him to go down to the
- 1:08:46Feast of Tabernacles in Jerusalem, which was the main
- 1:08:49festival in the Jewish religious calendar.
- 1:08:51And they said for no one works in secret if he seeks to be
- 1:08:54known openly. Hey, if you want to be famous,
- 1:08:57go there, set up a booth, everybody's going to be there.
- 1:09:00You need to be there. Verse 5 though says This is why
- 1:09:04they were basically taunting him, for not even his brothers
- 1:09:08believed in him. And yet some 30 years later,
- 1:09:12James was willing to die rather than recant his testimony that
- 1:09:17his half brother Yeshua was the Messiah, was God in the flesh.
- 1:09:25Now there's no indication that James was mentally ill from any
- 1:09:29of the writings of the early church.
- 1:09:32In Acts chapter 15 where he speaks his letter that he wrote
- 1:09:35the epistle of James, he seems pretty rational.
- 1:09:39And yet he was willing to die. And when I realized, wait a
- 1:09:42minute, this is what Paul is saying and James was one of the
- 1:09:47ones who didn't believe in him and yet he was willing to look.
- 1:09:50I love my little sister, but if she ever came to me one day and
- 1:09:52says you know before Abraham was I am echoing what God the Father
- 1:10:00Yahweh told Moses was his name. Tell the Israel Israelites that
- 1:10:04I am has sent you. I would call a medical
- 1:10:09professional and have her have her examined.
- 1:10:14But no, James believed after because he saw his brother
- 1:10:22resurrected. If that had happened to me, it's
- 1:10:25like, yeah, OK, that would change my life forever.
- 1:10:28So this is real. It's all anchored by the
- 1:10:32resurrection and because Jesus endorsed the Old Testament and
- 1:10:38some of the weird aspects there, like the destruction of Sodom,
- 1:10:41like the existence of gods, small G gods, you can take that
- 1:10:47as legitimate trustworthy information as well.
- 1:10:50We are all deployed in the middle of a supernatural war.
- 1:10:54And these small G gods and their spirits, the spirits of the
- 1:10:59giants destroyed in the flood, which we call demons and
- 1:11:03Dragons, they are real and many of them have rebelled against
- 1:11:08their creator, and they would like to destroy you in
- 1:11:10everything that you love. So be on the right side of
- 1:11:13history. Read 1st Corinthians 15.
- 1:11:16It's got the gospel by which you're saved, how you can know
- 1:11:19it's true, and why it's so important.
- 1:11:20Because this is ultimately a war against death.
- 1:11:24Christ has won it. You just need to believe in Him
- 1:11:28and then you'll be on the winning side.
- 1:11:31Oh Lord, God of hosts, who is like you, Oh Lord, your
- 1:11:35faithfulness also surrounds you. You roll the raging sea, when
- 1:11:39it's waves rise, you still them. You have broken Rahab in pieces
- 1:11:44as one who was slain. You have scattered your enemies
- 1:11:48with your mighty arm. The heavens, yours, the earth
- 1:11:52also is yours. The world and its fullness.
- 1:11:56You have founded them. The North and the South, you
- 1:11:58have created them. Tabor and Herman rejoices in
- 1:12:02your name. You have a mighty arm.
- 1:12:04Strong is your hand. Righteousness and justice are
- 1:12:08the foundation of your throne. Mercy and truth go before your
- 1:12:13face. Psalms 89, eight through 14.
- 1:12:17Derek, I just want to honor you and thank you and for all of
- 1:12:21your work over these years, always your willingness to just
- 1:12:23talk with a layman, the guy next door like me and and help me to
- 1:12:27make sense of some of these things along the journey.
- 1:12:30It does not go unrecognized. I want you to plug in where you
- 1:12:33can be found what you're working on recently.
- 1:12:36Any new books or just just give us an update and and close this
- 1:12:39out? We are at gilberthouse.org.
- 1:12:42gilberthouse.org is our website, and that's where you'll find
- 1:12:46links to everything that we're doing.
- 1:12:47We produce, oh, more content per week than should be allowed by
- 1:12:52law, I think unraveling Revelation, which is going on
- 1:12:55episode #262 I think, and we're still only up to Revelation 19.
- 1:13:00We also do a weekly podcast, PID Radio, which has been going
- 1:13:04since 2005. My podcast of you from the
- 1:13:07bunker since 20 O 9. We've just brought back the
- 1:13:10Bible's greatest mysteries, which we are very happy to do.
- 1:13:14And we, besides our new book, the The Gates of Hell, which
- 1:13:20looks both back historically at attempts to communicate with
- 1:13:24spirits on the other side of those gates, also looks at
- 1:13:27modern attempts to do so using things like psychedelics or
- 1:13:32witchcraft or even the UFO phenomenon.
- 1:13:35Those, those entities in space who always seem to communicate
- 1:13:39with us by telepathy, OK, fuck, they can't flash their
- 1:13:44headlight. They don't know how to use a
- 1:13:45webcam anyway. It's spiritual.
- 1:13:49It's not, it's, it's not the technological.
- 1:13:52We got that and we're working on a couple of documentaries.
- 1:13:54We just contributed today to a documentary for Donna Howell's
- 1:13:57book based on Donna Howell's book The Handmaidens Conspiracy
- 1:14:01about the role of women in the church, and also shot my
- 1:14:05sections today for what we're going to call a documentary.
- 1:14:08It's basically me sitting and talking with some B roll to
- 1:14:11illustrate the the point on the the secret or hidden history of
- 1:14:16Israel. Contrary to a growing belief
- 1:14:20among some of the church, Israel was not, was not created by
- 1:14:25Jewish bankers. The Rothschilds had very little
- 1:14:28to do with the founding of modern Israel.
- 1:14:31Sorry, it's just historically that's that's the fact.
- 1:14:34Secret societies, the Vatican? Nope, sorry, that's not it.
- 1:14:39There is a hidden history, but it's hidden because the men
- 1:14:41involved were trying to prevent Israel from becoming a thing and
- 1:14:46then tried to destroy it after it became a thing.
- 1:14:50They were also working for the Nazis, which is why they just as
- 1:14:52soon keep it quiet. So this will be a documentary
- 1:14:55coming out hopefully later this year, but the certainly in early
- 1:15:00next year if not if not sooner. It's it's always an honor, man,
- 1:15:05your wealth of information. I'm going to get you back.
- 1:15:08I'm not going to wait two years. I'm going to try to get back
- 1:15:10sooner than that. Yeah.
- 1:15:13For you guys out there listening, share this one far
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- 1:16:02Uberman. You know, you're talking about
- 1:16:04the Marvel. You know, we've really closely
- 1:16:06touched on that when we're getting into this idea of
- 1:16:09culturally these superheroes, right?
- 1:16:12And, and the Uberman, right? Superman and the Batman.
- 1:16:16I think there's these, I forget the name for them, but there's
- 1:16:18certain creatures that are represented in the Mayan and and
- 1:16:22the Aztec, the the South American culture that resemble
- 1:16:25modern day Batman and everywhere you'll look.
- 1:16:29Yeah, look into that. Gary Wayne was talking about
- 1:16:32that a little bit too. And I'm.
- 1:16:33Just I googled it and I'm looking I'm like this is crazy.
- 1:16:36They they literally have stone masks that they were putting on.
- 1:16:39Wow, Yeah. Yeah, I've seen some images to
- 1:16:42it like that on, on, Yeah. Forget what the name is.
- 1:16:45Social media, you're doing some. Awesome stuff.
- 1:16:47I still tune. In Thank you.
- 1:16:49To of you from a bunker. I really enjoy your discussions.
- 1:16:52I think Brian Godawa joins you guys right.
- 1:16:55You have a couple of. Other Doug Ben Dorn Ben Dorn,
- 1:16:57our next discussion. Should be.
- 1:16:59Really interesting. We're going to, we're going to
- 1:17:01talk about the overlap between Greco Roman myth and the Bible.
- 1:17:04Yeah. Yeah, I want to try to get you
- 1:17:07scheduled maybe in like the next six months to do a follow up
- 1:17:11because I'm going to work with Josh Peck talking about some
- 1:17:14stuff that he he's working on. You're more than complimentary
- 1:17:17to that. So I'm going to keep you.
- 1:17:20Dude, we're growing over here. It's unbelievable.
- 1:17:22Just a little mustard seed. We're we're trotting along, man.
- 1:17:26So, you know, we get together again and have another
- 1:17:29discussion. Thank you.
- 1:17:31Look. Forward to it, brother.
- 1:17:32Thanks, Rod. You bet.
- 1:17:33Have a good night. You bet.
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