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- Nick: Good morning, y'all. Welcome back to the concession stand. I'm Nick, and across the screen is my co-host Jules. today we're gonna be diving into this week's movie news. We're gonna be watching some trailers for the new Harry Potter series and the movie Josephine, and we're gonna be discussing Lanterns episode three, which was a great episode, big episode for the series. So a lot to talk about today. grab a refill, get comfortable, and let's get into it. So, right off the bat, we got the trailer for or the new trailer for HBO's Harry Potter series that comes in December. But before we get into that, we literally just got some some breaking news right before the show started. And that is that Billy Julian: Yeah. Nick: Barrett has been cast as young Voldemort, and Lenny Rush has been cast as Dobby for for Harry Potter season two. Julian: Which is kind of insane because I think Dobby was CGI the entire time. Yeah, Nick: Had to be, had to be. Julian: and so like now that we're actually getting a literal Dobby, it's gonna be pretty cool, you know? Like and I they're gonna Nick: but I Julian: have to do the makeup very well though. Nick: Yeah, that's true. 'Cause okay, for anybody who wants like a visual reference here, let me just let me just pull up their IMDBs. Julian: 'Cause he is a fictional character, he's an elf, for all those wondering who don't know Harry Potter and all like that but or haven't read them. But he is an elf. So and, you know, the elves in this thing are kind of slaves in a way. Nick: Yeah, their servants. Julian: They're servants bound to the wizard or witch that they serve and until they get a p you know, a sock or an article of clothing, they don't receive the freedom. You know? But Nick: Mm-hmm. Julian: they're still very powerful, you know, magical creatures as we've been able to we've seen Dobby do, you know, many times. Nick: Yep. Yep. Okay, so this is him I'm about to share my screen here real quick. Just so y'all can see what my boy is looking like. Okay, this is him right here. Julian: Yeah, I I can see this working. Nick: Right? Like I don't I th I don't think I've seen any of these. I I'm a Doctor Who fan, but I fell off a long time ago. Julian: I was gonna say yeah, definitely definitely haven't seen seen any the doctor whose stuff he's been in. He's young too though, so like Nick: Yeah, but no, yeah. And but I like yeah, I like that he's young, born in two thousand nine, so he's about seventeen. Julian: That's a that's like a year older than my sister, so Nick: Yeah, no, they're it's it's crazy. Us us sub Julian: Or actually Nick: U sub two thousands people are Julian: Yeah. Nick: are are are out here just wasting away, for real. this is Billy Barrett. Okay, I'm about to pull his up real quick. Julian: And he's gonna be young Voldemort, so that's gonna be Nick: I know this kid. I know this from Julian: From hack. Nick: you're fr you're not gonna this poll is gonna be f wild. From from Craven the Hunter, he was he was young Julian: Okay, that's cool. The kid who's Nick: he was y the young version of either Craven or his brother, I think. Julian: Yeah, no no no, you're right. I r I remember seeing him in that. That's the pool. See, Nick: Yeah, young Dimitri. Julian: when you said that I didn't know you were gonna go Craven. I was gonna go Brightburn off rip. That's where I was gonna go. But I forget that kid's name. Nick: I'm I'm dead. True. I yeah, I don't know that kid's name. Interesting. Inj Julian: But he's but he is in a lot of stuff. She's in Shark Native five. That's pretty funny. Nick: Yeah. I mean, hey, he's got, you know, got bring her back. I heard bring her back was really good, but really messed up. so hey. you know, and he looks like he he kinda got that little little devious look in his eye, that little Tom Riddle. Like he you know, like, hey, hey, let me let me let me tell you something. Yep. Julian: Yeah. You you gotta have a little low key to you. A little you know, a little you're there's something wrong with that one. That one's an odd one. We need to watch him. He has to become school shooter-y. Like if he's not school Nick: Exactly. I that he got that odd duck look in his eye, he's got it. A little bit. Julian: shooter-y, it's not working. 'Cause that's what basically Nick: Far. Julian: Tom wrote when you think about it in Harry Potter terms, who's t who is Voldemort? He's a terrorist. He's a wizard terrorist, basically. Nick: he's he yeah. He's a terrorist that started didn't start as a school shooter, but kinda Julian: He grew he was cul t cultivated like a school shooter. Nick: He had he been yeah, exactly. And had he been dumber, he probably would have done that. But he j you know, he got plans. He's too good of a wizard to just, you know, let the stick out in in the middle of class type shit. Julian: Yeah, that that was Wizard Hitler. Think about it. That's Wizard Hitler. Nick: Pretty much. Pretty much. Pretty much. So yeah. Anyways, we got new castings. That's great. But let's let's get into this trailer real quick and see what's what what it's looking like for season one. The Philosopher's Stone. Okay. you already know, but poof. We got we got some time. Julian: Them redoing that was gonna is gonna be good Nick: Yeah! Julian: Yeah, that's gonna be good. A and the Philosopher's Stone, that's the you know, what they had it as in the book, but I don't think did they call it that in the movie? Nick: I think there's like a couple like since they've released it on streaming or whatever or maybe it happened in theaters as well. like I think it originally came out as the Sorcerer's Stone and then like they've like they've Julian: That's what I was gonna say. Nick: tweaked it to be like the Philosopher's Stone or whatever depending on where you watch it. Julian: Yeah. Because I think that's why they said, come on, don't you read Like I think that was supposed to be the at Nick: Yeah. Yeah. Julian: us like, you know, you guys what it's not the sorcerer's stone. Nick: That's funny. Not anybody, anybody, anybody who saw that trailer and was like, isn't it supposed to be the Sorcerer's Stone? Immediately after it. Don't you read? Like that's, I like that. I like that. But one sec. Julian: Right, it was it was it felt like it was aimed at us. Nick: but it was a that was a really good trailer. That was I think that's easily the best look at the show that we've gotten so far. 'cause I feel like I know a lot of people have been just kind of skeptical about it from the jump because, you know, those original movies were so good. And it's you know, it's one of those franchises that is kinda is just hard to redo and reboot because it's so beloved by the fans and by, you know, everybody who who's into it. but With that being said, this looks like a really good like a really good readaptation or like just rework of everything. Julian: I think I think they're gonna put a lot more detail into the things and it's gonna be very more like the book, kinda like how with Percy Jackson, we the first movie we how we got it, and then, you know, what it became as in the show where it was like, Nick: Yeah. Julian: you know, they work with Rick Reordin. to do it. So Nick: Yeah. Julian: for our readers, you know, our our readers, our listeners, Rick Riordan is the guy who wrote all the Percy Jackson books and they're basically doing a book each book a season. So, you know, at the by the end of the season you're you finish that book more or less. And so Nick: Right, right. Julian: it wasn't like that with the movies. They kinda tried to mesh everything together in a bit. Nick: Well, they I th th and that's the th that's the dangerous thing about like a adapting a book into, you know, either a movie or a TV show. If it's gonna be a movie, more times than not, you're gonna get sh like you're either you're gonna get yeah I you're gonna be disappointed, I think. Like this is just my personal opinion on like book adaptations is like There's not enough time in a movie to be able to adapt all the like you know, all the different like inner workings and like monologues and like story points of the book. So eve like even in those first movies, even though JK Rowling was, you know, working with them on the movies and they they were still great. They were still really good, you know, they they l physically can't include all that stuff into that Julian: Right. Nick: short of a run, you know, that kind of runtime. But you know, some with something like a sh a TV show and then like you said with Percy Jackson, every I feel like everybody really liked the show as a as a faithful adaptation more than the movies because they had so much more time to like expand on smaller things and like include these plot points that are like beloved to the book. And I haven't even I haven't read the Harry Potter books like that. I'm you know, I was a Percy Jackson kid. but I I'm sure Julian: Yeah. Same. Nick: that's gonna be the case with with this show too and you know how they were taken from the books. So Julian: Right. Nick: and it's just like I feel like f what s one of the things that worked for the movies, even you know, given all that, is that, you know, just the cast and like those kids and like them finding each their, you know, their friendship amongst like this whole crazy wizarding world that they're in. So I think this trailer really captured that feeling. Julian: Mm-hmm. Nick: in a great way. Like, you know, that that line that I think McGonacle had where he she's talking to Harry about like, you need to find good friends. You need to like d you know, do this. Like Julian: Right. Nick: that I that really hit for me. And I'm like, okay, I I c I can see like they're really it seems like they're really gonna have like some sort of Julian: Right. Nick: like like an actual like a really good connection as friends in the in you know in the show. So Julian: I think it's gonna be cool. I think it's gonna be really good. Now we also have our first trailer for Josephine starring Channing Tatum and Gemma Chan. And that follows two parents as they struggle to console their youngest daughter after she witnesses a murder potentially? A tragedy. Nick: a tragedy. I I meant to I I I I I I didn't finish writing that, but yeah, a tragedy. I've all the only thing I know about it is it's supposed to be really sad. That's literally all I know. so we're about to Julian: Ooh I can see Channing doing very good in that because I just if you guys haven't watched that what is it, dog or Yeah, Nick: Dark. Yeah. Julian: dog. dude, that one had me. I'm not gonna lie. That one had me in the heels. So if I Nick: Yep. Yep. Julian: think he's he's been doing great when it comes to certain movies and I think this one will be very simple to that. Nick: Yeah. And hey, Channing Tatum, you know, ushered in a whole generation of rom rom-coms. So he's Julian: Okay, Dad. Nick: been making making people cry for years. So hopefully Julian: Years. Nick: let's let's let's see if this is if this can add to that catalog. All right. Boom. And let's get into it. Bro, what? Bro, what? Julian: That's it? That's it. They just stopped right there? Nick: What? That wasn't even a trailer or a T like that was just like they said, okay, we're gonna take this part of this really, you know, dramatic kind of uncomforta not maybe not uncomfortable, but like not knowing what's going on or what happened, I'm kinda uncomfortable. I'm just like, what the f what? Which you know, Julian: Like I I Nick: the trailer's doing its job, but my god, my god. Julian: It did its job. Nick: Josephine. Julian: That's it's official it's a teaser. It's literally just a teaser. So, wow. Okay. It's a crime Nick: Yep. I mean that's as teaser as it could get. Julian: drama thriller written by Beth De Arahu. Hopefully I said that right. Mason Reeves, Channing Tatum, and Jenna Jenna Gemma Chan. Dude, what? Nick: Whoo, that was tense. That was tense. As soon as she said, Can I get a gun? Julian: It was ex it's inspired. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait. This is inspired by De Haraho's own childhood experiences. So the writer is inspired by her experiences. This and this follows an eight year old who accidentally witnessed my god. Nick: Don't tell me, don't tell me, don't tell me, don't tell me what it is. I don't even want to know. I don't want to know until I see it on the screen and or unless they show it to me in a trailer. But I look judging by your face right now, I don't e god, bro. Julian: Fuck. Fuck. Nick: no. Is it that bad? Headphones off? no. Julian: You ready? it's worth it. Nick: Don't tell me. I don't wanna I don't wanna know. I don't wanna know. Julian: Okay, I can alright, alright, alright, all right. Well I It might be worth. Nick: If they I nah, I'm I'm waiting in if they didn't show it to me in the trailer, then I I'm waiting until they sh not that's Julian: It's not a trailer, it was a teaser. They're gonna Okay. Nick: what I'm saying. If it's a until they show it to me, I don't want to know. But what what like I don't know, like what tier of like I mean, I don't wanna say like what tier of bad is it, like 'cause obviously it's like a a Julian: I can't tell I I you you're gonna get it. It's like Nick: Okay, okay. I I I have an idea, but I just don't even wanna like Julian: They were at the park. They they were at the park. And this is in Golden Gate Park. So I'm assuming San Francisco. And something happens while she's walking with her dad. All say Nick: Yeah, I'm just li just just yeah, we'll just we'll just leave it at that. Julian: is her dad intervened. That's it. Nick: Okay. Okay. Julian: and everything like ended well with that, you know with that attack, if you will. And then yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll just leave it at that. Nick: All right, leave it at that. Leave it at that. Leave it at that. Just leave it at that. Julian: I'll leave it at that. And yeah. And so but Nick: It looks good. It looks good. Does it seem too heavy or like what why you you z you look like you're making a face like I don't know if I I don't know if I like that very much, like Julian: I'm I'm it's not that it's hard to not talk. Nick: Fair. I mean it's just we're just tight we're just we're just we're just supposed to be reacting. We're just supposed to be reacting Julian: It's something that we all should it's it's something that we should speak on. Like everybody should speak on. Nick: to true, true, true. But we're just supposed to be reacting to the teaser for now. So we can have a bigger a bigger conversation about it once it comes out and stuff. Julian: No, exactly. That's why I'm that's why Exactly. That's why I I'm I'm like, you know, we can use this as like good facial footage for for that. Because like just seeing it's like wow. And like like all and I'm getting I'm pulling this from Variety and Toronto International Film Festival. So that's where I got that i the information that I'm like reacting to like that's where that came from. Nick: True, true. Lordy, Lordy, Lord. But hey, I'll be I'll be seated because that I don't know that's the like Julian: They got me. Nick: that's kinda the most like maybe not the most like abrupt teaser I've seen. But like that I don't know. Like they literally just said Julian: Look, all I'ma say is all I'ma say is is that you're not gonna be feeling why bro said that. That's all I'ma say. You're not gonna be feeling it. So there's definitely Nick: Okay, okay. Julian: gonna be some conflicting parenting like views going back and forth on this because you're gonna be like, no, she's valid. Nick: no, yeah. no, yeah. I mean, it seems like and if that's the teaser that they showed us, like off rip, like it seems like that's probably gonna be a big part of it. Like, maybe not necessarily just the gun thing, but like just the conflicting points of view in terms of in terms of parenting and stuff. Because obviously whatever this traumatic event is is gonna affect her in a way that's gonna be like r hard for all of them to deal with. So, you know, in any case like that, it's you know, it it it can be hard for any type of parent, so Yeah, that's gonna be. Julian: And with that being said, guys, there's the we have some news on who we might be getting playing Wonder Woman. Now she's a mystery character as of right now, has not been confirmed in Man of Tomorrow. And it's Adri Arona. we are all thinking this Wonder Woman, you know, we've seen different f like Forbes came out about an hour or two ago and you know, she's basically been quoted with the the excitement of the woman that I'm playing gives me everything I need to wake up. And physically the training is exhausting, but it's all for the greater good. But that being said, let's move into our short topics, Nick. You know, you wanna lead it off lead us off with the what's what what's our short topic of the day? One of our this is one of my favorites personally. Nick: Yeah, before we do, I just wanna say that she gotta be Wonder Woman, right? Like, she gotta she got Julian: I think she has to be. Nick: she gotta be Wonder Woman. I mean, okay, on maybe let me rephrase that. In my opinion, she better be Wonder Woman. Because it's like I've been hearing it, Julian: Well. Nick: we've been hearing all this Maxima like stuff, and I'm just like, and you know, that that's if she is Maxima, fine. Like, it's you know, it's I just want I'm glad to have her in the DCU regardless. But like Julian: Wonder Woman would be Nick: She's Julian: a carry. She would carry with Wonder Woman. Nick: Yeah, bro, and she's been blowing up like the past three or four years. Like she's been showing up in a lot of stuff. We know she's tight with James Gunn. And like her just talking about the role like that, I'm like, okay. I get you're g you're you know, you're you're a talented, dedicated actress, but there's no way you feel this way about Maxima. There's no way. There's just no way. But that's just that's that's just where I'm at on it. Julian: Exit. Can't can't Nick: on to some shorter topics. PlayStation has just added live TV to you know the PS5 giving you the option to now in the media tab, you can go in. It has a whole channel guide with all the you know But what how how many how I haven't really looked that in depth on it crazy, but Jules, how many channels would you say like they have ready for you on? Julian: They they have a multitude of channels. It's like they have things from sports to anime to gaming competitions, all sorts of stuff. Which is Nick: Are we saying like dozens or like hundreds? Julian: I I would I don't know if they kept revolving or not, but I would say at least dozens. At the very least. Maybe Nick: Okay. Okay. I'll take it. Julian: potentially into the hundreds. Because Nick: Yep. Julian: there were and then there because there are movie titles where you can watch movies too. For free. All this was for free. I didn't pay for this. At least I don't know I paid for it. And so, you know Nick: Facts. I I know I didn't or I I d I don't remember paying for it, so Julian: Right, so you know, we'll see. But that Nick: But I mean, hey, if if we shouldn't be paying for it because it seems like 'cause when you first brought this to me you said that it could be them trying to make up for the fact that they're Julian: yeah. Nick: axing on all physical games. So Julian: Yeah, they're asking their physical games, which is, you know, essentially for everybody listening, this is very important. Because you having your physical game is so important because nobody can take the game away from you because you bought it, you own it. Now, when you buy a digital game, you buy the licensing to play it. Meaning they can kick you off of it if they ever saw fit. And not Nick: Mm-hmm. Julian: give you a refund. So That being said, that's why we did heat video digital video games or disc you know, that disc format. Because Nick: Yep. Julian: ultimately, in my opinion, it is my belief, that if you can amass a large dig or you know, disc collection, if you will, you're set for the apocalypse as long as you get electricity. Nick: That's true. That's true. That's true. And really Julian: Not saying that I'dn't counting on that, but as the crazy in me Well, yeah. Nick: I mean, l I am. I am because look, here's the that the same go everything you just said, same goes for DVDs and you know, street movies on streaming. Anything that you own that you own or have bought on streaming can be taken away at some point if if the wherever you bought it on loses the you know the the licensing for it. Because they you only have it as long as they have it. And If you know, if they lose it, then you probably lose it too. And you could lose it for any other reason that they might seem fit. And so, you know, that could happen ten, fifteen years in the future. That could happen like next week for whatever reason. So it's like my you know, my philosophy is just get you know as many get physical copies of everything that you love so that when that apocalypse scenario does hit. And you all you got is that portable D V D player that you've been you you you got stashed away in the closet and all your favorite movies on D V D you got something to do. That's all that's that's that's all I like to that's how I like to think about it. But drills on to the the next short topic. okay, okay. Julian: yes. Nick: Let's let's try something here though. Let's try we got w we got one, two, three, four short topics left, right? Julian: Okay. Nick: Do we think we can make e we can talk about each one in a minute? And and I and I'm gonna run a clock. I'm gonna I'm gonna get set the timer on my phone. So we're gonna ha so from the start of it we're so each Julian: All right, Bet, say less. Nick: one minute per topic and then and then so you take this next one and then I'll go and then you'll go and then I'll I'll do the last one and then and then and then we'll see if we Julian: Let's do it. I got the next one. Nick: can Yeah or yeah, you got this this this next one right here. Alright. Julian: Alright, sleeves are coming up. Nick: Okay, so I got got the timer. wait, yeah, I got the timer. Got the timer about to start. Alright. Julian: All right. Nick: Three, two, one, go. Julian: Alright, so look, Indy Never Ready will start in this new sci-fi thriller for Apple called the Waffle House Index. Which is a thing, actually, guys. Follows a Waffle House waitress that has a terrible night shift featuring a gunman, a mass flood, killer crocodiles, a nuclear explosion, a magical bunker underneath the Waffle House, and aliens. Now, that is all a day's work of a Waffle House. Me living in Florida, that is true. I can't confirm aliens and I can't confirm the magical bunker. But the killer crocodiles, a mass flood, and a gunman are all true. Those are all things that could probably and have happened out of Waffle House. So, that being said, I'm excited for ending up ready to be it because she's an amazing actress. I think she'll be able to do it and have a great time doing it as well. And I think we'll have a great time in the theaters to go watch it. Hopefully we'll, you know, when we'll get when they we get more information on this, we will Nick: Seconds. Julian: bring it out and we will make sure we put it out there for you guys to get it. Boom. Nick: And five seconds. Last time I hope it comes out in theaters because it's coming out on Apple TV and they'll put things in theaters that often. One minute, one second. Alright. Nice. Nice. One minute and one for the first one. Alright. So I'm about to do I'm about to start the second one. And Boom. Okay. So, okay, honestly, this isn't even news. I just put this in here because it was a thought that I had that I think was worth kind of bringing up here. So the X-Men cast is composed of a team of mostly lesser known actors, you know, Sadie Singh, Kit Connor, all these people. with a successful actor serving as the villain who to kind of anchor down all these like lesser known, lesser known stars and stuff, right? So could this format that they have going for you know in terms of that Could they take that format and just have every X-Men movie moving forward have it be like them, these X-Men against a villain who is like way more f you know, like an esteemed actor, like way more famous than them. So like now it's Adam Driver, Mr. Sinister. Next movie, it could be like this is just random as hell. This could this, you this wouldn't make any sense, actual sense. But let's say it's like, it's like Leonardo DiCaprio as like Magneto or something like that. Like that that would never work. And that's a minute. That's a minute. Julian: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but yeah, no no no. I I'm I'm here where you're c I'm here where you're at. That's cooking though. I like that. I like that. Because I think the I think Nick: You know, so it's just a thought. Julian: that does work with the lead actor being a villain, like they're kind of pulling off of RDJ and they know the hype is there, so we'll see. Maybe they will implement that format, in other places. But alright, we have Nick: Yep, yep. But or you take the you take the last one, the buddy one. Julian: Okay, go ahead. Then you you you do Adam Driver. Nick: Or or wait, what was the Adam Driver Joe? Julian: well no we we said that in the in that was supposed to be with the X Men. Never mind. yeah, so okay. Nick: okay, yeah. So yeah, if you take the buddy thing. All right, three, two, one, go. Julian: Alright, and public service announcement for anybody who has not realized it yet. Buddy is rated R. Please don't take your child to see it and then go yelling at the AMC staff or any movie staff for that matter because you bought the ticket. It's not anybody else's fault that you did not check the format rating. Because no, it is not for children. And yes, they will probably be scared and get nightmares if they watch Barney or any other show that's like has that type of character in it because Yes, it's gory, yes, it's bloody, yes it's rated R for a reason. Nick: Yep. Julian: And that's just your public service announcement. Don't get mad with Nick: Yep, and Julian: the theaters. Be mad at yourself for not checking the format. Nick: Yeah. If it's rated R, it's rated R for a reason. Got like that's all that's all that there is to it. I've seen the movie. Do not take your kids there. Just because there are kids in the movie, just because there's a big fluffy dinosaur doesn't mean it's for kids, okay? And that's that's time. Yes. Julian: That's what we're gonna leave it as so we do not spoil it. Nick: No. But coming from me, go see it. Like, I'm sorry, if you can go see Buddy in theaters while it's in theaters, please go see it. Because like it Yeah. I I I Julian: Yeah. Alright, let's get into our best discussion. The reason you guys are here. You know, this is your best fix before Sunday. Please come to the Nick: Yes, yes, yes. Yep, yep. Julian: concession stand and listen. Cause we've get we're bringing we're being cooking this season with lanterns. we've last last episode, if you guys weren't tuned in, we got some things right about the episode and how the episode was gonna be moving. So I would stick around and listen because I'm I'm pretty sure we got this the rest of the This season. Not mapped out where we know what's gonna happen, but as far as how the comic books align, we can definitely point the way. But that being Nick: Yeah. Julian: said, currently on review, it's currently being review-bombed on ID IMDB after averaging 10 million viewers globally after its first three days of viewership. Highest viewership of the show so far. And that that being said. Nick: So why why why do you why do you think that is, Jules? Why do you cause cause because the just to get a little more a little more context on it, like or actually let me let me pull it up because I think I had to pulled it up or pulled up earlier. But the f the the the first two episodes had an average rating of eight, right? Julian: Yes. Nick: or like eight point three or something like that. And Julian: Mm-hmm. Nick: after the third episode, the average rating dropped to like let me see. Okay. So first episode, average rating was an eight point two. Second episode, also eight point two. Third episode, seven point six. And if you ask me, this is the best episode of the damn season so far. Like this Julian: So far. Nick: like yet so far, you know, there's still we still got five episodes to go. So like plenty of plenty Julian: Right. Nick: of plenty more room. But like this is easily in my eyes the best episode of the season so far, yet it has the lowest IMDB score out of all of So what what what what do you think that's the the cause of that is? Julian: I think the cause of that is because the controversy is stirring up, like people are watching it being like, it's woke or anything. Like or they're they're dragging it how they're making Hal to look like a bad person. And it's like, hold on guys, hold on. Hal's always been a little racist. Just a little bit. Like in the comics, there's been times where someone has come up to him and asked him, literally, why don't you stick up for black people or people of color? And how Hal couldn't answer. He said, I don't know Nick: So Julian: And there's also a and this is comic book Nick: I don't know. Julian: stuff, guys. You can look this up. And so it's this is like it's LARPers who are upset about something that they're like, well, I love Hal Jordan but now don't really know how. And it's like instead of understanding and listening to the black characters tell the 'cause this is John's backstory. This ain't really about how. We're we're being it told to us through our eyes. That's why, you know, when the sm spoiler alert red flashing alarm. That's why so re le Nick: Spoiler alert. Julian: Yeah. That's why when he's when Hal says the Southwest Huxtables, it came through like a train where you're like, Whoo Dude, what? You can't say that. Nick: R and here's the thing about that line specifically. It's the way, like I really wanted to, and like obviously at this point we know how's kind of a dick, right? And but in even in that moment, I ca after he said that, I kind of wanted to just be like, is this man really that like naive or like like ignorant about all this? Like to where like he's up in up in their house, like, you know, give giving all this like kind of weird enthusiasms, you know, call him the Midwest hugs doubles, all this stuff. But the and I'm like, kinda, yeah, call them Junior. Julian: Do you call him Junior? John? Nick: Call them yeah, call them Junior and all this stuff. And so I'm like, I'm like, there's no way, like, I'm like, I really don't want him to be like this, like s like not not stupid, but just like, you know, ignorant to it. And then he goes out and then him he takes John out to the street and he's like, listen, bruh, I know what it is. Like, like, or what did he say? He said so he said something about like I know that d or did he say that he knew that they were tr they wanted him to to use him as a replacement? Or no no no, he didn't say that. But he's he basically hit him with something that was like, okay, like this is Julian: He he took him outside and was like, You're the only way you're getting my ring is off my dead body, basically. Yeah. Nick: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. That's what it was. My bad. Yeah, he literally yeah. So for him to go in and act on and act like that to his family just to take John out on the street and hit him with that, I'm like, okay, bro, you did that shit on purpose. Julian: After I and mind you, after also spoiling him went to tell his family himself. Nick: Yeah. Yeah. Ass asshole move. Julian: And this is after after he lost he was dishonourably discharged by the army or the milit Marines Marine Reconnaisson because of him. Nick: No, yeah. Because of him. Let's okay, we're we're since you you mentioned that, let's let's d talk about like the the the history because na in this in just this episode we find out how much of a history John and Hal actually have. And it's like it goes so much deeper than them just being assigned together by the Guardians like to be, you know, training. Julian: And and he's also been only been moving with class throughout the entirety of the interactions he's had, even though they're all terrible interactions. Like, you know, by how. Nick: Yeah, which yeah, yeah. Exactly. Which also really speaks to his character, especially after this episode, because it's like we learned this episode that his parents pretty much molded him to be like the perfect Green Lantern candidate. And like for that, like he couldn't let all that go to waste just by losing his shit on Howe because Howe said Julian: Yep. Nick: some something something stupid or something, you know, something to g kind of rub rub his skin the wrong way. So but l in terms of the history between Hal and John, like we start w you know, when we we see John's dad failing the ring test when the ring, you know, we John's literally a baby in the cradle, the ring pulls up, makes the green bubble around him, and that boy was scared. I and listen, I don't I I I can't say a hundred percent that I would or wouldn't be like terrified out of my mind if that happened to me. But Julian: Mm-hmm. Nick: like I'm leaning, yes, I'm leaning, I probably would be pretty scared. So it's like And you know, so he he he failed the test which led the ring to how and so that you know, that kinda gets the ball rolling on all this. Julian: It does. And then you know, then we get into, you know, Mrs. Store kinda pulling a Joe Jackson. Because once she finds out and gets visited by the Guardian and mind you Let's let's just the obliviousness of the Guardians is it's asin eye at times because she just gave pulled up, gave her the biggest rock on the planet, biggest diamond there is, and then was like, Yeah, she'll be able to fence this diamond and get it sold, of course. Why would she have Nick: Literally. Literally. Julian: any trouble doing that? I'm an alien. Well, I don't care. I just gave her a diamond. I know I made up for r Nick: Facts. Facts. Julian: you know, all that pain and suffering that the ring has caused. Nick: Yeah, this is wealth on their planet. I'm I'm doing good, right? Well, no. Julian: It's no. And so which, you know, leads to John's parents raising him purposely isolated from his brothers and and, you know, kind of an outcast or like, you know, they probably hold some resentment now from him because he was given all the attention. And then, you know, he d he goes the path of being a marine, walks that same path as his dad, because his dad was still selected because that, you know, that was the path. And it was also that, you know, as John told us, it got him in front of that person, the guardian, right there. Nick: Mm-hmm. Julian: And then and as you know, I wanted to point this out. It's funny that they aren't you know, they don't look at or view our you know, what happens to different, you know, cultures or different people on our planet because of their skin color. And they've in the comics they acknowledge this where the guardians will tell how like we're not, you know, concerned with your petty bigotry. Like, you know, so like where he says they said that that diapers stuff to Hal, meaning they know about it in the comics. Now in this, Nick: Yeah. Julian: maybe this is them learning about it. So, that being said, I think that, you know, it's mighty funny that the Guardian chose a white woman to, you know, be so that it found it easier to to be amongst humans. So an older white woman at that. And so I found that to be very funny. But continue. Nick: Here's okay, so with with that given that, 'cause okay, we gotta start talking we gotta talk about the race of it all be just because like this it's it's really important in this episode, whether you like that or not. Like any and and yeah, before before we even like really get into that, just going back to the whole thing about the the review bombing on IMDb, I scrolled down on the page and this is how you know it's being review bombed for anybody that like is just like because anybody who's questioning like, is this getting review bombed or does it just have a low score? You know it's getting review bombed when the most review the most scores for you know out of one to ten are either the highest is ten and the second highest is tied at nine and eight, right? The third highest is one. So a major most people gave Julian: Yeah. Nick: gave this gave this either in twenty two point nine thousand people. have have rated it. Most of them gave it an eight, nine, or a ten. But there's the you know, the next largest amount of people gave it a one. So there's a big pool of people that just went and gave this Joe a one star review because there was, you know, there was something probably race related that they didn't like. And you know, maybe it wasn't race related. Maybe you really, you know, don't like the show like that. But I I'm not buying it. I'm sorry. I'm not. I'm not. But anyway, like what you're to what you were saying about her like pulling up like that. It's interesting that she like you said, she would choose like a a you know, a older white woman to turn into given that she doesn't know that much about how Earth works. So it's like it kinda se like it seems naive yet also somewhat calculated at the same time. Like ha I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Julian: Yes. Which is also something in itself we're gonna have to you know look through because the manhunters were created by the guardians in itself, which also could explain why there is one guardian stationed on Earth right now. Nick: Mm-hmm. Julian: Because they know that it's there. Nick: Yeah, and s hm, yeah. And so yeah, and for anybody Julian: So so that's just me. That's just how I think about it. Nick: that doesn't the yeah, anybody that didn't know the you know, the Guardians creating the Manhunters thing, that's like one of the things from the comics that I'm we're assuming based on how the season is going is probably gonna be the case here. so like I don't you know, I wouldn't say that's necessarily a spoiler, Julian: How they're how yeah. Nick: but you know, but we'll see you know, we'll see. Julian: Well, because they know Aben Sir had the man hunter and was transporting it. But and then which is which Nick: True, true. Julian: is also which brings us into, you know, like how when we were not how, John being his time in the Marines, you know, where he was doing some some, you know, some real some hit stuff where he was r in that same spot for what, seven months, eight months, nine months? Nick: Bro, he was he was a lone sniper, lone sniper for like what, yeah, s seven or eight months, something like that. Just in the same spot. Mant my man grew a full beard, grew a full nappy head after having the clean the cli the clean military cut. And then just for just for my boy Hal to fly in there and mess everything up, bro. man. man I was Julian: yeah. Nick: sick. I could just imagine how my boy John felt. Shoot. Julian: Exactly. And he ate it, took it, and then when he went to art school that was actually his real test. And so because I think that his ability to you know, like he made that watch and made it from the outside in, like that was cool. And then that was when he had a ring. Nick: Okay, let me ask you this. Yeah, let me ask you this. Do you think him go like obviously, you know, his mom kind of pushed him to go to art school after he got discharged from the from the Marines? do you think that his like do you think his mom was full heartedly just doing that, like just to so he could actually pursue what he wants for once? Because up until that point, we hadn't seen her do that point blank period with him. Because the whole literally from the moment that the Guardian visited her and told her what was up and showed her what was real, she has been Julian: Well Nick: she had been Joe Jackson on on John's ass about growing up and being Grand Lan Green Lantern. So in that moment where she sent him to apply for art school and see what was up, did she know that the Guardians were gonna be there, or was she really just trying to be a good mom? Julian: I think she was just really trying to be a good mom. There's no way. There's there's nothing to prove. There's nothing we have to prove that she knew. Nick: Okay, which brings me to the second part of the question. John going to art school and the guardians being there. This this is probably the the meatier question of the two. Do you think that the guardians needed John to come to art school for them to see to see him be able to do like the deconstruction thing or the you know, like draw some art Julian: Hmm. Nick: and construct some stuff? Or do you think it was just like now's the time that John's ready? But th he just so happens to be going to art school, so we're gonna pull up to art school and recruit him from there. Or do you think it's all part of the the grand scheme? Julian: That's a good question. Hm. I would have to say it was all part of their grand scheme because it seems like they they still do have that knowledge of being able to watch and do things and keep tabs on him like they like she told him. She they just weren't talking to her. And so and another thing is is that think that like I think what they're doing with John because we've seen him construct things without a ring and do stuff like that now That being said, like he's showing characteristics of an alpha lantern. For everybody who doesn't know, that's like a lantern who basically can ch tap into the central battery on Ola and channel doesn't need a ring to manifest or channel to make constructs. Nick: Mm. Julian: So that's where I think they're going with it. But I think that, you know, the the process of becoming that I don't know. So if they change that process up and say, you know, or if they like, you know, knew it when he w when the guardian visited him as a baby With and like she just needed to be in his presence to do it to him, or he needed to be in her presence to do it to him or his presence to do it to him. Like, I don't know which w or which of it came first or how they're gonna try to link it. But we do know he creates constructs without a ring. So Nick: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Julian: and the only thing we can really have to go off of that is like Omega or Alpha Lanterns. So and they and he so like Go ahead. Nick: True, true, true. Which I did I didn't even I didn't even know about the the Alpha Omega Lanterns, honestly. So I 'cause I well I from that moment when he created the bird and didn't need we found out he didn't need the ring to do it, I was like that I was that's where I was most baffled just 'cause I was like, I didn't even know there was any type of lantern that could yeah that that could make that possible. Julian: That was possible. Yeah. Nick: So now that knowing that, you know, those Alpha Omega lanterns are out there and that's like a thing, I'm like, okay. Okay. Okay. I see where we might be going. Julian: Right, so we'll see. That's and and like, you know, but Nick: We'll see. Julian: are all the Guardians good? What do you think? Nick: I d okay. I think because I th obvious okay, I think they're one of the it's gonna be one of those groups. I think it's gonna be one of those groups kind of like Shield, right? Where where you know it's an organization or whatever you want to call it, a group of people that or maybe like the Watchers, maybe that's a better comparison. that, you know, are supposed to be like kind of divine, all good, like, you know, like you know, make making all these powerful decisions and creations for like the the greater good. But, you know, they all they have also made mistakes and they have also, you know, kind of done things not knowing what the repercussions might be. And they've also made you know made decisions that have been based, you know, based on maybe selfish influences or whatever it might be. So they're not perfect, but they have all this power. And so I think it's, you know, we can't like maybe they're not evil, but they're definitely, you know, they maybe they're a little corrupted. And like Julian: But not right. Nick: and and and maybe That's one of the reasons that Hal is so like kinda jaded from the core and I think we might have talked about this a little bit last week, is maybe, you know, because the Guardians are corrupted, Hal knows he's like a little more distance distanced from like being being a lantern and like putting on the suit Julian: Right. Nick: and saying the oath and all that stuff. So yeah. Julian: Yeah. Well like he doesn't like he knows he's on the out, basically. Nick: Yeah, yeah y yeah. And and and there's also things that we don't know. You know, we've learned partial information regarding the Guardians, like the thing about how some of are dead now. And like that's the reason that now they're doing interviews. Julian: And did parallax happen already or did it not happen? Nick: Yeah, exactly like I don't know. And like yeah, and so I'm hoping we'll find we'll get more context to those like kind of z scenarios and stuff. But but yeah, I think there's a good, you know, there's a good especially with what we were saying about them creating the manhunters in the past, them them potentially being racist, you know, like I them guardians, yep, we're like Julian: A lot of stuff going on man. There's a lot of stuff going on. Nick: After last episode we're at we're asking ourselves who the manhunters are, da da da da. But now I'm like, okay, who's the real even if if we know who the man is manhunters are, who's the real bad guy here? Like obviously the manhunters are bad. Like we know that. We know that they're trying to do bad shit. But like are the you know, could the guardians be even worse at the end of the day with with what we find out about them? So yeah. Julian: No, literally. So but what else are you excited for, Nick? Nick: I'm excited about I I I'm not even excited to watch it because I actually me and my girl wat watched it the whole season two last night. It it Julian: Nice. Second. Nick: was it's only six episodes. Chad Powers season two, okay? If I'm sorry, a Hulu and I'm not there's nothing to trash Hulu or Disney Plus or anything like that, but a Hulu show about a college football team. W where the main c the main character star player is like in disguise as like a you know a grown man in disguise on a college football team. It shouldn't be this good. It should not be this good. but but yeah, no, a show that's about that, like, you know, sh shouldn't be that good. Like Glenn Powell comes in and like it's just b it's better than season one. It's probably my one of my top sleeper shows that like when Julian: Yeah. Nick: you look at it, you're like you look at the premise, you're like, this is kinda this could be hit or miss, but then it's a hit. Like they go in and Julian: Right. Nick: it's a hit. And the girl to tell you on it, the g the the main girl in it is the girl from in the dark, the blind girl. Julian: All right. Nick: She's one of the coaches on the on the football team. So Julian: You got me. She's a she's a good actress. Nick: peep it. So it's only two two seasons, twelve episodes worth the watch. That's that's what I'm excited about. But what are you excited about, Jules? Julian: Alright, I'll check. I'll check. I'll check. I'll check. I'll check. I have So in eleven days we that Wolverine game that drops finally. It's been in my pre order list. I've been waiting for it. But for your guys' entertainment, I will be doing a walkthrough. We'll be releasing it on our YouTube. I'm gonna try to get done as soon as it comes out so that I can speed run it and have that walkthrough out for anybody who gets stuck or need some help. Or if you wanna just Nick: Sir. Julian: see some cool gameplay, come check it out. But Nick: Sir. Julian: That being said, thank you guys for tuning in with us today, this morning. Be sure to be you know to check in for Waffle House index and to check in for the Harry Potter series and for Josephine. That'll be coming out very soon. and then also, you know, be sure to really go to the Optimus Prime Awakening or see the, you know, it's a twelve minute animated short featuring Peter Cullen's final performance as Optimus Prime. And it's described as a love letter to the Transformers community and Peter Cullen. That'll be pretty sweet. So if your cinema file And you wanna just see that, be sure to tune into that too. But as always, stay great and thank you for tuning in Nick: Check it out. Julian: at the Session Stand Podcast and you have a great day. Nick: Peace. Thanks for listening.