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Victory! Why Students Have Access to Vegan Milk in Schools Now! · UNCHAINEDTV'S Truth Files with Jane Velez-Mitchell

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Did you know that nearly half a billion
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dollars is literally thrown in the trash every
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single year because of a corporate welfare scheme
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in the national school lunch program?
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And according to USDA data, about one-third
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of these cartons are thrown away untouched because
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the kids just don't want them.
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How's that for government waste?
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That's hardly surprising considering one-third of Americans
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are lactose intolerant just like me.
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We've got breaking news to bring you and
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it's excellent news for plant-based milks and
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the people who love them.
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A huge win for plant-based milks.
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Specifically, parents can now demand that their kids
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get vegan milk in school.
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This was a huge battle that went on
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for years and we are talking to the
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leader in this epic saga to get this
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very basic right that should have been available
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to all kids from the get-go.
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Let's go straight out to Dotsie Bausch.
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Give us a backstory, like how did this
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come about?
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Oh my gosh, as I was going down
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the route of starting Switch for Good and
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kind of coming to terms with that we
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were going to focus on one animal food
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group, it was going to be milk, it
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was going to be cow's milk, and that
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was from a history of as an athlete
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having so much cow's milk pushed on myself
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and my teammates and it's made them sick.
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Once I took my blinders off and realized
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what was behind that cow's milk machine and
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what happened to the animals, I said no
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more.
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I'm not a mother, but I have a
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special hatred for stealing mother's milks to give
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to other species in any way, shape, or
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form.
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This idea came to me, we're going to
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change some of it.
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We should try to change all of it
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and that really includes ending the cow's milk
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monopoly that is in schools that started in
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1945 with the Richard B.
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Russell Act when schools were segregated.
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It was only white children that were being
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fed cow's milk and I imagine in the
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very beginning it was good intentions, but 80
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years later it's not okay.
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I called the only person that I know
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that is a powerhouse in Washington and can
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actually get federal legislation passed and that was
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Wayne Pacelli.
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It took me like six months to talk
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him into it because he was like, oh
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god, no, that'll take forever if ever.
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No, no, no.
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We had a long series of conversations and
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we started the journey and we started with
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Representative Troy Carter out of Louisiana.
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He was as passionate as we were about
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getting this changed.
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His entire family is lactose intolerant.
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He hated that this was forced on them.
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That's our man right there and he was
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just ground floor day one, got other representatives
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on board, senators, and it's been quite the
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journey.
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I still can hardly believe it to really
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tell you the truth because you know when
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anybody that's listening that's working on something that's
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longstanding and takes this amount of time, actually
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Wayne told me it takes an average of
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seven years to pass federal legislation, so we
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did it in about four.
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So it's like wow, we're fast.
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What's next?
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But anyway, it's really rewarding to see this
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at the end and the thing that excites
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me the most is yes, we got rid
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of the doctor's note and yes, children have
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access.
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It's a free choice just with a parent's
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note, but what really is exciting that changed
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that really to me ended the cow's milk
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monopoly in schools is that schools now, per
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this bill, per this legislation, they have the
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ability, they have the right, and they can
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choose if they don't have to, but they
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can choose to put plant milk out in
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the lunch line and it doesn't require any
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child to request it.
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They just have that right.
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They can put plant milk out.
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As you know, the fiscal language was embedded
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into the Whole Milk for Healthy Kids Act
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and actually it's the same with whole milk.
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Schools don't have to put whole milk out.
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They may put whole milk out alongside plant
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milk.
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So that's, yeah, because I was talking to
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a friend who's a parent and would like
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to do this and he was confused and
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was like, well, what if I want oat
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milk?
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Can I ask specifically for oat milk or
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can I just ask for plant milk and
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how would I go about that because I
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don't think my school even knows about that.
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So I want to break it down for
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parents who want to take advantage of this.
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They've got a plant-based kid.
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They've got a kid who's lactose intolerant, which
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is, you know, according to the National Institutes
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of Health itself, 68% of humans are
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lactose intolerant or experience lactose malabsorption, but of
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course the devil's in the details.
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So how do we go about it and
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how can we make sure that this law
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is enforced?
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Yeah, that's a great question, Jane.
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I know we're going to kind of go
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into what we're doing about educating the schools
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so that it can be enforced because I
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learned pretty quickly right after the bill passed,
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it was like, oh, wait a minute.
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It's not like the government passes a bill
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in both chambers and then the president signs
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it and then they run around and do
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a marketing campaign to tell all the schools
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what their new rights are or when any
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bill passes of any legislation, right?
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That's not how it works.
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It then again falls on the people who
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work to pass the bill to educate about
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what the bill now offers to the American
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people.
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So we're going to take that into our
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own hands.
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But if a parent says, okay, I want
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Johnny to have plant milk, we are still
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in a situation where it does need to
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be nutritionally equivalent.
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And I hate that for, you know, words
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really, you know, because that makes the bar
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cow's milk, but it has to have the
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same amount of protein.
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So it has to have that eight grams
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of protein per half pint.
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So right now that is only soy milk
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and pea milk.
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But as you know, a lot of the
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plant milk companies that maybe are doing oat
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or almond are innovating and they're putting more
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protein into their, like I said, oat milk
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or almond milk or even cashew milk to
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meet the standards of the national school lunch
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program.
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So they're very detailed about what needs to
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be, what nutrients need to be in these
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milks for the kiddos.
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So right now it's still soy and pea.
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But if a kid wants that, the parents
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can ask the school, hey, you have the
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right.
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They can print out the language to the
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bill.
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I know it's not easy to find bills,
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but you can certainly come to Switch for
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Good and we'll get you all set up.
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But they can go to the school, the
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principal, the teacher, whoever they want to speak
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to and say, I really want Johnny and
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his friends to have access.
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And you now have the right to offer
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that.
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But the school has to want to offer
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it, right?
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It has to put it out on the
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lunch line.
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So if it's not out on the lunch
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line, then the school is required by law
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now to give Johnny the plant milk he
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wants with just a note from parents, not
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from, doesn't need a note from doctor.
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I think there should be some kind of
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packet that kids can walk in, parents can
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walk in or kids and go to the
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principal and say, this is the law here.
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It is right here.
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I'm showing it to you and you need
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to follow the law.
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The reason I mentioned that is in California,
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it is the law that hospitals provide plant
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-based meals to people who are there.
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And I've said this many times on the
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show, people will call me all the time.
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I'm in the hospital.
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They refuse to provide me a plant-based
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meal.
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The nurses don't know about it.
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The people who are delivering the food.
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So if there's a law that is in
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paper that like maybe a packet, here's the
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law, you need to follow it.
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Then I think it's going to have more
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weight because some of these patients have said
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that the people delivering the food are arguing
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with them saying, no, it's not the law.
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I don't have to do that.
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Or, you know, you can have a piece
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of toast with no nothing on it and
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that's going to satisfy.
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So it has to be a substantial meal.
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I think it's a very similar situation here
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in the schools, because just looking at it
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from an administrator standpoint, if somebody comes in
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and demands this, the first thing I would
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have to do is, well, now I have
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to go out and buy that.
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And yeah, I have to buy that.
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Am I going to buy one container or
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am I going to buy it on a
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regular subscription basis?
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So I think that there's got to be
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a way for us to make it easier
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for schools to get this done and maybe
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have them proactively providing this.
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Right.
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I know they have to figure out the
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demand.
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I mean, you said it perfectly, right?
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It's like how many people are going to
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want this if we put it out in
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the lunch line and nobody takes it because
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nobody knows about it.
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So I couldn't agree more.
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It's not going to be, you know, done
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overnight.
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But I really do feel like we have
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this kind of it's almost like a once
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in a generation opportunity to kind of reshape
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the school lunch experience by educating them.
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And we're going on tour because I don't
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think you can educate digitally in this lane
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as much as you can in person.
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So we are doing a 10 city tour
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to schools.
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It's going to be a team of Olympic
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and professional athletes, and they're going to be
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leading these.
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We're going to show up in a van.
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We're going to lead one hour kind of
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interactive assemblies that get kids excited, packed with
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games and stories and science back lessons about
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plant based nutrition.
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And we're going to teach the students about
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the plant milks, what their new rights are
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and the teachers and the principals and the
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parents, what their new rights are, how to
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build these meals, how to read labels, just
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getting them to really understand and embrace what
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is now their their new freedom.
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And we're starting we're going to do the
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Midwest because we we are we are fairly
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certain that there are a fair amount of
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California schools and even New York schools like
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coastal schools that have been waiting for this
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for a while.
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And so our know that it is happening
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and know their new rights.
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I mean, I wish we could just do
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every school in the whole country, you know,
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but that's going to be a little expensive
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chain.
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So we're doing Kansas City, St. Louis, Mount
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Vernon, Illinois, Louisville, Bowling Green, Nashville, Memphis.
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Wow.
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And then come back up Little Rock, Bentonville.
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Do you literally have this this van here?
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Yes.
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It's an electric.
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Yes, we I should I should say yes.
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Yes, because we are trying to get it
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sponsored.
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So yay, VW Kansas City.
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We love you so much.
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Please say yes.
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But we do have someone that is a
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donor who I actually live with my husband
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who has agreed to buy it from us.
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After we know which can't afford to buy
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to buy electric vehicles.
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Heather Dominic saying come to Indiana.
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Love, love, love this.
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Yes, yes.
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And I very much so hope that this
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is the first of many, right?
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We're going to do it the following fall
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and the following spring and the fall after
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that.
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I mean, it's just no one's going to
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know unless we do it this way.
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But but we are also looking at doing
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exactly what you suggested, which which I think
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is really important, like a packet for schools
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to get so that they really because just
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just with the law alone written, this is
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exactly what your what your new rights are
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and what you can and can't do what
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this exactly allows you or doesn't allow you.
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Important because I was trying to explain it
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to my friend who's a parent and I
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was like, you know what, I can't really
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explain for you how to do this.
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So I think that would be incredible.
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And I think it's fantastic that you're going
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on this justice tour.
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Now, let me ask you.
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One of the biggest arguments is that the
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NIH itself on its own website says 68
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% of humans experience lactose malabsorption, and it
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is higher in communities of color.
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Dr. Milton Mills talks about this.
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Let's listen and discuss how that might play
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into it on the other side.
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70 to 75% of African Americans are
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lactose intolerant.
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And I was having African, African American patients
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coming in, telling me, Doc, my irritable bowel
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is acting up or I've got a spastic
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colon.
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And I talked to them about their symptoms.
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And it was fairly clear to me that
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probably what was going on with them wasn't
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that they actually had spastic colon or irritable
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bowels.
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It was that they were continuing to include
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dairy foods in their diet.
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So I have them go home, do two
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weeks, no dairy, come back and see me.
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And eight to nine out of 10 times,
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the problems had cleared up.
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And so what is the reason that these
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foods are recommended?
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It's marketing, plain and simple.
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Marketing, plain and simple.
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We know, for example, that when it comes
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to the new food pyramid, there was huge
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industry influence on this pyramid, which elevated meats,
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cheese, and dairy to the top left.
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And it sparked outrage.
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Is this something when you're working, for example,
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with this congressman, the dietary racism aspect of
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it that has come into play here?
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And can that be part of the argument
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as you do your tour?
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Yeah.
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Oh, my gosh.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's so cool to see Milton.
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That was 2018 at the launch of Switch
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for Good, actually, when he was talking about
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that.
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And he was really the one that got
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me, I think, just not only excited, but
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really amped up about fighting the dietary racism
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aspect of cow's milk.
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I mean, he's the one that taught me
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everything and the science and showed me how
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to fight when he started getting me involved
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in fighting for a new dietary guidelines in
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2020.
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I think that it makes me crazy that
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it's not openly talked about and known.
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I've talked to, at this point, probably thousands,
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almost a thousand people, young, old, middle-aged,
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wherever they are.
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And if they're lactose intolerant, it's almost as
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if they've had this secret that they've kept.
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Or they say, I think I am.
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I mean, I'm really sick, or I'm on
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the toilet right after, but I love ice
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cream.
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Or that's what they gave me in school.
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Or it's almost the same that serves like
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this hidden hush-hush thing that people have
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that they shouldn't have when you and I
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both know, and all of your listeners know,
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that it is totally and completely normal.
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I'm the weird one.
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I can digest cow's milk if I had
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some right now.
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I did as an athlete in my early
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days.
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I'm lactase persistent.
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I'm a weird, white, Northern European that was
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drinking cow's milk for probably the longest, my
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ancestors.
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And I'm genetically mutated.
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That's weird, right?
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The people that can't digest milk from any
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species after infancy are totally and completely normal.
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And this, in the United States, and I'll
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say mostly probably our government is the one
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that twisted this and made it seem weird
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or sound weird and people feel weird or
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guilty even if they have lactose intolerance.
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So it's just been a whole education journey,
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right?
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Because no one really knew.
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We're getting a lot of questions.
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Naja Roy Brown says, are these organizations promoting
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the bill focusing on Black and Brown communities?
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I don't see it.
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Come to these communities and collaborate with the
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Black Veg Society.
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You've already got another collaborator.
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Yes, definitely.
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No, we had early adoption from the Black
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Veg Society on this bill.
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We have about 200 organizations that signed on
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to this bill in NAACP.
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And I'm pretty sure you guys signed on
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to it early on and were behind it.
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So thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you so much.
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I couldn't agree more.
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And yes, there'll be many, many, many, many
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Black students and Black parents that we will
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be able to reach and be in front
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of on this tour.
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And we're beyond excited about that.
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Yes.
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One of the amazing things that you've done
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with Switch for Good is show how many
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athletes have rejected dairy.
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You're an Olympic cyclist, but there are others.
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Let's go to another one of your incredible
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videos, which are streaming on Shade TV as
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well, and discuss on the other side.
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When I gave up dairy, it was the
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single biggest change that I had felt in
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my body.
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Unless you're a baby cow, you shouldn't be
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drinking cow's milk.
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The biggest way that I saw my performance
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change when I dropped dairy was in my
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recovery.
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I don't think dairy is a part of
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an Olympic diet.
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I was recovering better, and it was a
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hugely transformational shift for me.
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I started just feeling like a machine.
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There are so many reasons to remove dairy
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products from your diet.
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Ditch the dairy.
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So by the way, I urge everybody, go
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to Switch for Good.
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I've been poking around all day and yesterday
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researching this.
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There's such a wealth of information, but it
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seems like the industry drumbeat, we know, we
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know that industry had a huge impact.
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Something like seven of the people who were
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influential in creating these upside down pyramid had
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industry ties.
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It's outrageous, but I just want to say
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that it seems like the outrage is not
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sufficient.
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It's not sufficient.
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People are sort of accepting this new food
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pyramid and not really focusing on the fact
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that there was all this meat and dairy
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and big pharma influence.
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Yeah, right.
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Well, I know.
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I can only speak through the lens of
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someone who's so experienced in this, and that's
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Dr. Christopher Gardner, because we just recorded him
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on the Switch for Good podcast like a
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few days ago.
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It'll come out in the next, I think,
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week or two, because he was on the
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scientific advisory board that spent almost two years
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working on all the science and all the
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data that would discern the new dietary guidelines.
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They have this every five years, right?
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They put this scientific advisory board together and
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they work for free a Zoom a week,
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right?
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There's almost a hundred Zooms or over a
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hundred Zooms.
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And then the scientific advisory council hands their
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materials over to HHS and USDA to then
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complete and release the final guidelines.
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So what happened this time was they turned
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it over and they basically just tore up,
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ignored what the scientific advisory board suggested to
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happen.
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It almost looks completely different.
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They ripped it all up and then you
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know what we have, really a 10 page
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website that doesn't really work.
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But I will tell you that Christopher Gardner
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did say, and I agree with you, James,
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this is super obvious, six out of nine
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have direct ties to big meats and big
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dairy and big cheese and all of it.
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But Christopher did say, all of us suit
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food scientists.
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He said, at some point in our career,
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we helped to guide a food group or
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a food company or however you want to
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say it.
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And we took money.
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He said, the only person that is alive
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today that has never taken a dime is
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Marion Nestle.
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And I didn't realize that.
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I'm not saying that that's good or bad
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or any judgment, but just that that is
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typical.
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Let me go to a New York Times
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article from yesterday and my comment.
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So it was an article about the food
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and cancer dangers.
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And it actually was very good when it
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comes to the dangers of meat.
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Processed meat is officially cancer causing.
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Red meat is a likely carcinogen.
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This is according to the World Health Organization
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and all sorts of organizations.
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But then it goes on to say, and
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we invite the author of the New York
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Times on anytime, dairy and the calcium in
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it appears to lower colorectal cancer risk as
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part of a broader healthy diet.
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Full fat dairy, which was recently endorsed in
21:19
new federal dietary guidelines, was also associated with
21:22
reduced inflammation and insulin resistance in some studies.
21:26
Now, my response, which they did publish, great
21:29
article that says what everyone should know, processed
21:31
meat causes cancer.
21:32
Red meat probably causes cancer.
21:34
However, promoting dairy was a big flaw in
21:36
an otherwise sensible article.
21:38
The NIH itself says most people, 68%
21:41
at least, experienced lactose malabsorption.
21:44
That's another way of saying most people are
21:47
allergic to dairy.
21:48
We should stay away from it and take
21:50
advantage of zero cholesterol plant-based milk alternatives.
21:53
We are not cows, do not need to
21:55
consume the breast milk of cows.
21:57
But what I should have added is, why
21:59
are you referring to the new dietary guidelines
22:02
without talking about how controversial they are and
22:05
how dairy and meat and big pharma had
22:09
a big influence in creating them?
22:11
That's the New York Times.
22:13
Right.
22:13
I know.
22:14
And we have a solid amount of data,
22:18
I'll say, on dairy causing prostate cancer and
22:21
ovarian cancer, hormonal-based cancers.
22:23
We have plenty of data.
22:25
You and I have been over it multiple
22:26
times on both of our shows.
22:28
So not mentioning that is criminal, in my
22:31
opinion.
22:32
Well, reach out to the New York Times
22:34
because you, as somebody who's leading this, would
22:37
have much more sway than me.
22:39
But I was shocked that, please, everybody's talking
22:46
about how controversial these food guidelines are.
22:49
And then to cite them without talking about
22:52
the controversy, to me, was like, hello, this
22:56
is not some blog somewhere.
22:58
This is the New York Times.
22:59
And again, I invite you and the author
23:01
of that article on any time.
23:03
But just to give you an idea of
23:04
some of the controversy surrounding it, let's play
23:07
one of my favorite social media influencers.
23:11
Danny is sharing.
23:11
All right.
23:11
So many of you sent me the bizarre
23:13
vegan section in RFK's new dietary guidelines.
23:16
So let's cover a few things.
23:17
It is genuinely mind-blowing how magnesium, riboflavin,
23:21
and vitamin B6 were categorized under broader shortfalls
23:24
in vegan diets.
23:26
When it comes to nutrients of concern or
23:28
high intake between meat eaters and vegans, it's
23:30
meat eaters who are at a risk of
23:32
low magnesium intake while vegans are the opposite.
23:35
And I have no clue how this administration
23:37
thinks that vegan diets show shortfalls with riboflavin.
23:41
There are just so many vegan sources of
23:43
riboflavin.
23:44
Lastly, they included vitamin B6, which, like magnesium,
23:48
is a nutrient of favorably high intake for
23:50
vegans.
23:51
And on top of that, the highest source
23:52
of B6 is chickpeas.
23:55
So look, we don't get into politics here,
23:59
but I mean, come on, this is a
24:02
direct attack on veganism.
24:05
Yeah, it sure feels like it.
24:06
I know with the B vitamins, especially B12,
24:09
I'm always just amazed at the reaction that
24:12
I get when I explain what it is,
24:15
B12, because I guess, you know, I didn't
24:17
know before I came down this rabbit hole
24:19
deep, but it's a microorganism.
24:21
It's a living microorganism, and we get it
24:23
from our streams and our rivers and our
24:25
soil.
24:26
And so because we are bleaching our streams
24:30
and rivers and soil with our detergents and
24:32
all of the chemicals and processes that we
24:35
put into them, actually, meat eaters really need
24:40
to be taking B12 too, because how did
24:42
they get it before?
24:43
How did they get it, I guess I
24:44
should say, by eating animal flesh, right?
24:47
But it's not from the animal flesh, it's
24:49
because the cow ate it from, you know,
24:52
drinking from the stream.
24:53
And now we're hardly almost, it's almost non
24:57
-existent.
24:58
So all of us need to be making
24:59
a supplement, which is sad, but it's not
25:02
looking at where the source is.
25:05
They just assume that the source is the
25:07
cow itself.
25:09
And it's not, the cow's eating the B12.
25:11
So that's just a good example of one
25:14
nutrient that I think we misunderstand and meters
25:18
like, well, those vegans, they don't get B12.
25:20
It's like, no, no, no.
25:21
Well, what I like to point out is
25:23
that vitamins and supplements are a multi-billion
25:26
dollar industry and 99.999% of the
25:29
people taking those supplements are not vegans, right?
25:33
So right there, it's just like, you know,
25:36
you go into a hospital and you've got
25:39
a sprained wrist and sometimes a doctor will
25:41
try to make that about you being vegan.
25:43
Well, what about all the people lined up
25:44
in gurneys out here and they're not vegan?
25:47
Does that connect to their eating meat?
25:49
Or for example, when God forbid, a vegan
25:52
commits a crime, suddenly it's the vegan committing
25:56
the crime.
25:56
Well, what about all the meat eaters committing
25:58
the crime?
25:58
They never mentioned that those people eat meat.
26:01
You know, there's a society.
26:02
It's so true.
26:03
A meat eating criminal.
26:05
Right.
26:06
Exactly.
26:07
And we're so much, such a large part
26:09
of the population now that yes, occasionally we're
26:11
going to get some bad apples as it
26:13
were, right?
26:14
But getting back to your good news, I
26:17
really want to just, if I were a
26:21
parent, which I'm not, I'm a parent of
26:23
two rescue dogs and a rescue cat.
26:25
But if I was a parent of a
26:26
human child and I wanted to make sure
26:29
that my child, my son or daughter got
26:33
that plant-based milk, what would you say
26:35
to do?
26:39
You're going to march into the school and
26:41
you're going to tell them that a new
26:44
law just passed and was signed in the
26:46
beginning of January by the president.
26:47
And it is now federal legislation.
26:49
They can print it out if they want
26:51
to, that you can do that on the
26:53
government website.
26:53
But if you come to Switch for Good,
26:55
we'll have just a little one pager for
26:57
you, because this has inspired me to make
26:59
sure that we do that now, not tomorrow,
27:02
Jane, because it is a little bit confusing
27:05
because the news is all over the place
27:07
and you're not quite sure, but you're going
27:09
to walk into your school and you're going
27:10
to say, Johnny, I don't know why I
27:11
always use Johnny.
27:13
Johnny and or Sarah want to have soy
27:18
milk.
27:19
They need to have soy milk.
27:21
And I would appreciate it if you would
27:25
offer it in the lunch line so that
27:28
they don't have to feel weird and niche.
27:30
They can feel like they're with all the
27:33
kids because you now have the right as
27:35
a U.S. public school to put soy
27:39
milk and pea milk out in the lunch
27:40
line for children to choose from.
27:42
It's healthier.
27:43
It's better for you.
27:44
A parent can certainly go that really kind
27:46
of knows their stuff about nutrition, how much
27:48
more nutrition is available in plant milk and
27:52
how it's not going to make almost anyone
27:55
sick that we know of.
27:56
Right.
27:57
Compared to lactose intolerant in cow's milk, intolerance
28:00
in cow's milk.
28:01
And they have that right to put it
28:03
out.
28:04
In addition, if the parent doesn't want to
28:07
go that far, because I realize that's kind
28:08
of really pushing the school to do something.
28:10
And, you know, you're going to it's more
28:12
if you just want to make sure that
28:13
your kid has it, you can go to
28:15
the school and say every single lunch, I
28:17
want him to have soy milk.
28:19
Here's my note.
28:20
Goodbye.
28:21
And they have to provide it every single
28:24
meal.
28:25
I have two questions.
28:26
One is the government required to send out
28:28
a notification to all the schools.
28:30
And obviously this is public schools, government or
28:34
government schools that get government funding because private
28:38
schools may not have to apply.
28:41
Follow this.
28:42
Correct.
28:43
Okay.
28:44
So is the government required to send out
28:47
a notice to the principals and the food
28:50
directors of all public schools?
28:52
Is this K through 12?
28:55
And when would that notice go out if
28:58
so?
28:59
It's K through 12.
29:01
And I don't know why this just isn't
29:04
readily available information, but we've been asking.
29:07
And as far as the answers that we've
29:11
gotten, no, not at all.
29:12
They are not at all required to send
29:14
out a note on a law that's passed
29:16
federally, anybody, schools or companies, you know, there's
29:20
a laws passed every day.
29:22
I think we think where they get nothing
29:23
done, but there is a law passed almost
29:25
every day.
29:26
And they are not required to then go
29:28
shout from the rooftops.
29:29
Now, second question, how long do the schools
29:33
have to comply?
29:34
Because I could see, and this happens all
29:36
the time.
29:38
Tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow creeps us petty pace from
29:40
day to day, right?
29:42
To quote Shakespeare, they'll say, yeah, we'll work
29:45
on it.
29:45
And then two weeks later, where's the soy
29:48
milk?
29:49
So how does the law address the timeframe
29:53
that these schools have to comply?
29:56
No, it's right now.
29:57
It was signed into law.
29:59
It is the current law as it stands
30:01
that they have to give it to a
30:04
kid with just a parent's note.
30:06
And if they so choose, they may put
30:07
it out in the lunch line today.
30:10
Okay.
30:11
And so is there a recourse if a
30:13
school fails to do it after a certain
30:15
point where a parent, aside from filing a
30:17
lawsuit could say you're, you're in violation of
30:21
the law?
30:23
No, there is, there is no language in
30:25
the bill that has a period of time
30:27
that if the school doesn't do it as
30:29
a parent can, I'm sure they can complain,
30:32
but they can't sue them or they won't
30:34
win if they sue them because now there
30:35
is no language like that.
30:37
Well, I think your tour at your, and
30:40
somebody asked, why is it called the justice
30:42
tour?
30:43
Well, for, for justice, for kids, not to
30:46
be forced or encouraged to drink milk, that's
30:48
going to make them sick.
30:49
But I think your tour is more important
30:52
than ever because I hate to sound cynical,
30:54
but, uh, I think a lot of these
30:58
schools are going to possibly say, let's hope
31:01
nobody notices and continue business as usual until
31:05
somebody makes it very clear that they are
31:08
required to do this and they should do
31:11
it proactively, not wait for a parent, a
31:15
parent's note that they should proactively provide a
31:19
certain percentage of this milk.
31:21
Now there, the complexity, of course, government contractors,
31:25
right?
31:25
These schools aren't going to be running down
31:27
to the local health food store to grab
31:30
some soy milk.
31:31
Um, is there any information about how they
31:33
would work with contractors?
31:35
Obviously when you contract at a large scale,
31:39
you achieve economies of scale.
31:41
And so I would think that just like
31:45
the USDA pushes dairy like crazy, that if
31:50
they want to be fair, um, that they
31:54
would provide a distributor and a distribution system
31:59
for this soy, that it could get into
32:02
every school system.
32:04
Yeah.
32:05
Well, they, currently the schools work with, um,
32:09
Silk and Ripple because, so, so, cause you
32:12
know, as you know, you could get it,
32:13
but with the doctor's note before, um, that
32:15
was it, right?
32:16
There was no other way.
32:17
It couldn't be put on the lunch line.
32:18
No way.
32:18
It's, it had to be this special, very
32:20
niche, you know, they had to go to
32:21
the doctor and get a note.
32:22
Um, and if you presented that, then you
32:25
could get, uh, so they, they, they currently
32:27
have, um, some of the, uh, big distributors
32:30
that they work with, meaning the NSLP, the
32:32
National School Lunch Program.
32:33
So I am assuming they're going to continue
32:35
to work with those distributors.
32:37
It does open up doors for other distributors
32:40
to, um, compete for the business.
32:45
And I certainly hope that that happens.
32:47
We're in the midst of, um, speaking with
32:50
different plant milk companies to come on the
32:52
tour with us, because to me, that is
32:53
a, it's a, it's a huge aspect of
32:55
the tour for the kiddos to be able
32:56
to taste, right.
32:57
They've got it.
32:58
They have, they have to have a single,
32:59
um, like we're hoping for just like less
33:03
than half a pint, just so that the
33:04
kids can taste, um, uh, single, uh, you
33:09
know, cartons of, of the different milks and
33:11
we want to do all of it because
33:13
it, you know, we don't, it doesn't just
33:14
have to be soy and pee.
33:16
Like families have the ability to, to, to
33:19
go by at the grocery store.
33:20
They, they taste it and they love it.
33:22
And they make, it makes their stomach feel
33:23
great.
33:24
They have energy afterwards and they're going to
33:25
talk about it.
33:26
They're going to tell their parents and their
33:27
friends and their parents, friends.
33:28
And that's, that's how it all works.
33:30
So we're working with the, the plant milk
33:32
companies to, to, to, to support us.
33:34
I mean, we're like a roving marketing vehicle
33:36
for that, right?
33:37
Like it's hard for me to imagine that
33:39
any of them were going to say no,
33:40
but, um, I just sent out all of
33:43
the requests yesterday.
33:43
So I'll ask you guys what you're doing
33:48
is so important.
33:49
So important.
33:50
The followup, it's all about the followup and
33:54
getting in this vehicle right here and taking
33:57
off and going from state to state and
34:00
letting people know.
34:02
And, you know, I would say have a
34:03
news conference at every, every city you go
34:06
to have a, have a conference and get
34:09
the local news out there.
34:11
You're an Olympic athlete.
34:12
You're a celebrity.
34:13
Um, you know, you are really, um, letting
34:18
everybody know, because as you just said, the
34:21
U S government, while it passed, this law
34:23
is not sending any message to the school,
34:25
letting them know that this law exists.
34:26
And unless they're psychic, how would they know?
34:28
I looked, uh, mainstream media to try to
34:32
find this story.
34:34
And it was usually a tiny line buried
34:37
under the whole food, healthy milks act.
34:39
Uh, and Oh, by the way, they can
34:41
also offer soy milk.
34:43
Let's change the subject right away because we
34:45
all know that mainstream media has been co
34:47
-opted by the meat dairy and big pharma
34:49
industry.
34:50
Look at the advertisers.
34:52
I often joke.
34:53
I can't even have dinner watching the news
34:55
because every single commercial is about somebody with
34:59
terrible intestinal problems and the side effects of
35:03
taking whatever drug they're going to take.
35:05
And it's gross.
35:07
And I'm like, Oh my God, can't people
35:09
do the camp that people connect the dots
35:11
and see the reason why this isn't being
35:14
discussed is because those commercials are keeping the
35:17
lights on.
35:18
Yeah, no doubt.
35:20
I know.
35:20
And it's, it's bipartisan.
35:22
Nobody talks about it.
35:24
Nobody.
35:24
Yeah.
35:25
I know we did so much PR when
35:27
this passed and you know, the incredible vegan
35:30
media picks it up.
35:31
But I mean, it's just like, yeah, they
35:32
just, it's like, they just like hot potato.
35:34
They, they, they won't touch it.
35:36
And, um, it's, I think it, the Kendrick
35:39
Ferris is coming with us on tour.
35:41
Um, who is that saw in the video,
35:44
the three times on the right.
35:48
Yes.
35:48
So he came and lobbied like our second
35:51
to last time we were in Washington.
35:52
I mean, I think I was there maybe
35:54
nine times over, you know, three and a
35:55
half years of lobbying.
35:57
And, uh, his story, I mean, he has
35:59
a personal, uh, incredibly difficult to hear story
36:05
about this when he was a little kid
36:07
and how sick it was making him and,
36:09
and, and the milk, the cow's milk, and
36:11
no one knew what was wrong.
36:12
And no, I, you know, it's just, it's
36:14
such a personal story and he has a
36:15
family now and he's able to, to educate.
36:18
So he's, he's pretty excited to go with
36:20
us and he is living proof that you
36:22
can be strong.
36:23
He's three time Olympic weightlifter for the United
36:26
States.
36:27
Like the guy is not small, but I
36:30
will say brainstorming live.
36:34
We've come up with some really great ideas,
36:37
just discussing it and having people comment.
36:40
And we are getting comments from folks saying,
36:43
you know, we have to do this, uh,
36:46
et cetera.
36:47
Uh, here we go.
36:48
Uh, Jane, we must work in promoting this
36:52
soy milk availability.
36:53
Nobody else is going to do it.
36:55
I agree.
36:57
Uh, having been in the news media myself,
37:00
stunts always, especially in smaller towns, stunts, uh,
37:04
can sometimes bring the media.
37:06
Like if he were to do some kind
37:08
of athletic demonstration outside the school, uh, you
37:13
know, something that is a visual because the
37:16
way these news media organizations work is the
37:18
Simon editor is just some guy or gal
37:21
sitting there.
37:23
Uh, the only reason she might send a
37:25
crew is, am I going to get in
37:27
trouble if I don't send the crew and
37:29
my competition sends the crew?
37:30
And then my news director says, why didn't
37:32
you have this?
37:33
That's the mentality.
37:34
It's totally 100% value three.
37:38
It has nothing to do with, is this
37:41
really important to our world?
37:43
No, they value neutral.
37:46
So if there's something that you would say,
37:49
Hmm, if somebody didn't cover this, they might
37:51
get in trouble.
37:53
Then that might be something that would, you
37:55
know, and it has to happen dramatically at
37:57
the top of 12 noon.
37:58
So that maybe it could be live, you
38:01
know, he's going to do some kind of
38:03
physical demonstration.
38:04
It's sad, but that's the kind of thing,
38:06
um, you know, that works.
38:09
Uh, and sometimes not always, but it can
38:12
in smaller markets, especially where if you did
38:16
something like that in LA, well, we're, we've
38:18
got, so we're tripping over celebrities, but they're
38:21
not in certain areas.
38:22
Uh, so, you know, uh, I think throw
38:26
everything at the wall and see what sticks
38:28
because I think this is one of the
38:31
most important developments.
38:33
Uh, and you know, uh, the dairy industry
38:37
also props up the meat industry, as you
38:40
well know.
38:41
So the dairy cows become the cheap hamburger
38:44
and the dairy industry only exists because of
38:49
government support.
38:50
And a lot of that government support is
38:52
shoving it down the throats of school kids,
38:54
or as you've often said, giving it to
38:58
school kids who throw it in the garbage.
39:00
But if that were to crumble, I see
39:03
it.
39:04
I see the entire big meat, big dairy,
39:07
big pharma complex as a house of cards
39:09
that could crumble.
39:11
So I honestly think Dotsie, that this is
39:13
possibly the most important thing, anything Unchained TV
39:18
can do to help in this regard.
39:20
Um, we're there because I can't think of
39:23
anything.
39:23
I can't think of anything more important than
39:25
what you're doing right now.
39:27
Yeah, no, that, that was kind of my
39:29
thinking in starting switch and focusing on dairy
39:31
is knowing how many people dairy maize makes
39:34
sick, whether they know it or not yet,
39:37
um, that it's an end to the whole
39:40
entire house of cards crumbling.
39:42
Like you just said, that was, that was,
39:44
that was, that's always been the intent, right?
39:46
Like we're the fire starter.
39:48
Cause it, you know, it's, it's, you know,
39:50
some of the other animal foods don't make
39:52
people immediately sick and right.
39:53
People care about immediate, right?
39:55
Like down the row, they have prostate cancer,
39:57
but right now you have a glass of
39:58
milk.
39:59
You have 70% of the entire population
40:01
of the world who is going to have
40:03
the shifts.
40:03
I mean, it's just, it's so it's such
40:05
a large percentage.
40:07
I do want to clarify something because I
40:09
think that people are misinformed.
40:11
Um, and thank you Ruta for being here.
40:15
I think she's incorrect when she says this,
40:17
can you clarify what she has said versus
40:21
what is the law?
40:23
She is saying, it's not a requirement.
40:26
They are given the right.
40:28
That's a hundred percent.
40:29
What I said a hundred percent.
40:31
Yes, she's correct.
40:33
Yes.
40:33
But it's a, it's a requirement if it's
40:35
requested.
40:37
Yes.
40:38
For this one kid, that's right.
40:42
Schools have the rights, the kids, it is
40:46
required if they say that they need it,
40:49
right?
40:50
Schools are required to put out plant milk
40:53
or whole milk.
40:55
They are required to put out low fat
40:57
milk, but they have the right to decide
41:00
to put out whole milk and plant milk
41:03
in the lunch line.
41:04
Well, let's give Ruta a shout out.
41:06
She got it right.
41:07
So we basically, that makes it even more
41:11
important for every school to have one parent
41:14
and child to go in there and say,
41:16
I want soy milk.
41:17
Because if you look at the purchasing mechanism,
41:21
they have to buy more than one, one,
41:24
uh, carton of soy milk, you know?
41:27
So that, that means that they have to
41:30
institute the purchase of a batch of soy
41:33
milk and therefore it would only be right
41:37
for them to put it all out.
41:38
If they purchased a whole bunch of soy
41:40
milk and then they kept it hidden and
41:42
only gave that one to the kid and
41:44
let the other, other rest of the soy
41:46
milk go bad, uh, even though we know
41:49
it takes a long time for soy milk
41:50
to go bad, but that would be, um,
41:53
a proactive waste of US government taxpayer money
41:57
and a sabotage of the spirit of the
42:00
law.
42:00
So I feel like it's very important to
42:04
have one individual in every single school, go
42:08
up there and demand it and then track
42:10
it because once they track it, they can,
42:13
they can report back.
42:14
Yeah.
42:15
It took them three weeks or it took
42:16
them three hours.
42:18
Right.
42:19
Yeah.
42:19
Yeah.
42:20
You're right about your show.
42:22
Um, encouraging ideas.
42:24
I like that.
42:25
I think that that should be part of
42:26
our tour.
42:27
It's, you know, maybe we can, it's almost
42:29
like a, a, a, a, a mini campaign
42:31
on the tour where we're inspiring every single
42:34
parent that, that wants it to, to, to
42:36
go in and say something.
42:37
Right.
42:38
Because it's, it's not going to work if
42:39
that doesn't happen.
42:40
And I also like your idea about Kendrick.
42:42
I don't know if he's going to like
42:43
our idea, but I mean, it's pretty cool
42:47
to see him lift that much weight.
42:49
I mean, he's not going to do what
42:50
he did.
42:50
The Olympics, right.
42:51
That would have to start training again.
42:52
But the other one we're trying, the other
42:54
vegan athlete that we're trying to get is
42:56
Diana Tracy, who I'm sure you know, who
42:58
that is six time Olympic gold basketball, because
43:00
I just keep envisioning are pulling up in
43:04
the, in the van.
43:04
There's a big assembly.
43:05
We go into what is always the basketball
43:08
court, right at the assembly and the bleachers
43:12
around that and her playing with the kiddos
43:14
and getting them excited about plant milk.
43:17
So, okay.
43:17
Well, I'll just shout out to anybody that
43:19
knows her.
43:20
We're trying to get her.
43:21
I would say also when I'm thinking about
43:24
what would make an impression, Nimae Delgado taking
43:28
his shirt off and doing those pushups or
43:32
those- This is middle school, Jane.
43:34
This is middle school.
43:35
This is not high school.
43:37
He's very sexy when he takes off his
43:39
shirt.
43:40
Yeah, but a good body is a good
43:42
body.
43:43
You know, I mean, she has living proof
43:45
that, and there's others, Tori Washington, you know,
43:50
you could have a rotating cast of characters.
43:53
We're having a naked justice tour and we're
43:55
coming to a school near you.
43:58
Yeah.
43:59
I could even see- So shirtless, I
44:02
should say.
44:02
We've been having discussions about songs because there's
44:09
a push to create vegan anthems.
44:11
And I've written a few songs myself.
44:14
Texas is going vegan with Renee King sewn
44:17
in and Be Kind Already.
44:20
But what about a song celebrating this?
44:24
A rap song celebrating the fact that you
44:27
can ask for soy milk.
44:32
You can ask for plant-based milks.
44:34
I think a kid, you could have a
44:36
competition.
44:37
Who could come up with the soy milk
44:40
or the plant milk school anthem?
44:45
Anthem.
44:47
You know, you're probably- I love that.
44:50
You're going to have to write it though,
44:51
because you do not want me writing songs.
44:52
That is not going to be good.
44:55
I want to sign off.
44:56
This is getting crazy.
44:57
But, you know, it's a good idea.
45:00
Somebody's listening who is a great songwriter.
45:02
I feel certain about that.
45:04
Yeah, because I just went to an event.
45:06
Unchained TV was one of the sponsors of
45:09
an event with the plant-based treaty rap
45:12
song.
45:13
So it's not that crazy in the sense
45:15
that the plant-based treaty just came out
45:17
with a rap song.
45:18
So, yeah, I think we've covered so much
45:23
ground.
45:24
I just want to say, Dotsie, you are
45:25
my hero.
45:27
You are on the ground and in the
45:31
van.
45:32
We've got to show the van one more
45:34
time.
45:34
There she is.
45:35
She's about to get into that van and
45:37
head cross country.
45:38
And people want you to stop in their
45:40
city.
45:42
So, yes, already, Karen LaCava, we need big
45:45
time celebrity vegans to write and sing some
45:47
vegan anthems.
45:48
Yes.
45:48
Yes.
45:49
Yes.
45:50
So keep us posted.
45:52
Feel free to let us know that you
45:54
want to jump on from the road.
45:57
And again, we are here in Los Angeles.
46:01
That's our headquarters.
46:02
Anything we can do here, because this is
46:04
the second largest city in the United States.
46:07
And they say what happens in L.A.
46:11
spreads to the rest of the country and
46:13
then the world.
46:14
So maybe we can take part in a
46:16
Los Angeles event and videotape it and make
46:21
it a template, because the L.A. school
46:24
system, I mean, my gosh, primarily children of
46:27
color in the L.A. public school system.
46:30
And so basically all these kids, well, every
46:33
kid should be drinking plant milk.
46:35
So keep us posted.
46:38
I mean, you're doing amazing.
46:39
Okay.
46:39
Thanks for the idea.
46:40
Somebody out there, write the song and get
46:42
that over to a stat, because that's the
46:45
song that we'll play when these athletes, when
46:47
Diana comes in with her basketball and Kendrick
46:49
does a weightlifting competition.
46:51
I mean, I think we can really, you
46:53
know, because it does, it has to be
46:54
high energy and exciting.
46:55
These are middle schoolers, right?
46:56
Like we, this cannot be dry and boring.
46:59
Yeah, exactly.
47:00
It's got to be a party when we
47:02
arrive.
47:02
Yeah.
47:02
And a lot of these kids are rappers
47:04
and they know all sorts of the break
47:06
dancing and everything else.
47:09
So, all right.
47:10
Thank you so much, Doxie Bausch.
47:12
You are amazing.
47:14
Rock on.
47:15
You're more amazing.
47:16
Thanks, Jane.
47:18
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47:20
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