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Where are the Cubs in their pursuit of another starting pitcher? · North Side Territory: A Chicago Cubs Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory Foul Territory Networks Cubs podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Sahadev Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are your
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  Speaker 1: Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic Patrick some late
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  Speaker 1: week recording due to me being sick all week. So
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  Speaker 1: bear with me, listeners if I or if I lose
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  Speaker 1: my train at the nearly fully recovered, but hit me
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of the week. I think all that
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  Speaker 1: lack of sleep and then holiday parties, all that stuff
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  Speaker 1: caught up to me and then getting hit with some
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  Speaker 1: rough U with a rough flu here.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm all good now and and ready to record.
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  Speaker 3: We gotta we gotta put you on some sort of
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  Speaker 3: like load management program. We can't have you, you know,
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  Speaker 3: work in the lobbies at the winter meetings all hours
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  Speaker 3: of the night and then hit hitting the holiday party
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  Speaker 3: circuit really hard. You know, right, You're not, Yeah, you're
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  Speaker 3: not as young as you once were.
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  Speaker 2: You know, No, I am not.
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  Speaker 1: I think it caught up to me, all right, So
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  Speaker 1: let's get let's get to the news here, and the
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  Speaker 1: news recently broke. I'm losing track of days, so I
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  Speaker 1: believe this broke Thursday night? Is that when the Michael
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  Speaker 1: King News broke Michael King to the Padres. The Cubs
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  Speaker 1: were interested in King early on. I don't think they
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  Speaker 1: ever got deep in the weeds with him. I think
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  Speaker 1: you and I believed early on they would. It never
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  Speaker 1: seemed like things got too crazy there with the Cubs
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  Speaker 1: and Michael King ultimately signs what I believe is a
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  Speaker 1: three year, seventy five million dollar deal with opt outs
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  Speaker 1: after each year. Kind of complicated with the money if
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  Speaker 1: you want to break it down year by year, but
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  Speaker 1: that's that's the general breakdown of it. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: good deal for Michael King, good deal for the Padres.
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  Speaker 1: I think I don't think that's the type of deal
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  Speaker 1: the Cubs could make work with Michael King, based on
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  Speaker 1: the fact that they had to give up a draft
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  Speaker 1: pick in international money to sign him. Type of picture
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  Speaker 1: I think the Cubs could use, but just not the
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  Speaker 1: type of deal that makes sense for them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we confirmed early on in the process, so the
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  Speaker 3: Cubs had interested in Michael King. We explained why. It's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of the same attributes that led them towards
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  Speaker 3: Showday Managa, Matthew Boyd, Jamison ty Own. I mean, this
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  Speaker 3: is an area where they've been really effective at. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: when you look look back at how the Cubs have
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  Speaker 3: responded to these sorts of deals, they do not like
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  Speaker 3: the one year opt out when you're paying a qualifying
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  Speaker 3: offer guy and giving up the draft pick in the
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  Speaker 3: international pool. Like I'm assuming that would have been a
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  Speaker 3: major sticking point for them. But we had already heard,
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  Speaker 3: like kind of leading into the winter meetings that Cubs
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  Speaker 3: are interested, but not putting on the full court press.
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  Speaker 3: Just recently in recent days, I had heard that it
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  Speaker 3: was yeah, interest early on, but this sense that they
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  Speaker 3: weren't going to be all that competitive in the end.
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  Speaker 3: There also reports out there that you know, he's an
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  Speaker 3: East Coast guy and may prefer that you know, he
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  Speaker 3: spend a lot of time in New England growing up,
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  Speaker 3: in college, high school, he had pitched in New York already,
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  Speaker 3: and then I don't know. This is kind of like
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  Speaker 3: a handy guide for listeners and readers, Like the Padres
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  Speaker 3: are doing something it's almost the exact opposite of what
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  Speaker 3: the Cubs.
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  Speaker 2: Are wanting to do.
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  Speaker 3: Like I'm reading our buddies Ken roses All and Dennis
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  Speaker 3: Lynn of just like twelve millions signing bonus five million
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  Speaker 3: salary for twenty twenty six, twenty eight million dollars player
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  Speaker 3: option for twenty seven, or five million buyout, thirty million
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  Speaker 3: player option for twenty twenty eight. Like it's a little
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  Speaker 3: different for the Padres if you know they were the
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  Speaker 3: ones who made the qualifying offer. Maybe it's a little
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  Speaker 3: different in terms of the draft pick calculus. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: the Cubs didn't want to give Alex Bregman a one
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  Speaker 3: year an opt out after year one, among many other
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  Speaker 3: issues to getting that deal across the finish line in
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  Speaker 3: spring training. And yeah, very good deal for Michael King.
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  Speaker 3: I mean he you know, in reading the story on
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  Speaker 3: the Athletic the new story, it's like this guy who
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  Speaker 3: had two separate injury issues, made only fifteen starts, does
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  Speaker 3: not have a super long track record as a major
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  Speaker 3: league starting pitcher. And to get seventy five million dollars
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  Speaker 3: guaranteed and multiple opt outs in case he does finish
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  Speaker 3: in the Cy Young War voting, again, good for him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's it was always like an upside play and
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  Speaker 1: a belief that you could keep him healthy.
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  Speaker 2: Right. I think the Cubs were competent.
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  Speaker 1: We brought up Michael Soroka early on in this process
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  Speaker 1: because look, I know, Michael Soroka didn't pitch well with
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  Speaker 1: the Cubs. He didn't look great. But the process to
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  Speaker 1: getting Michael Soroka healthy, they they were really happy with that.
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  Speaker 1: They were they thought they they identified who this is
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  Speaker 1: who he is, this is the guy when you're at
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  Speaker 1: your best, this is how you look, this is how
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  Speaker 1: we get you healthy, throwing ninety five plus again, blah
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  Speaker 1: blah blah. And they followed that and they got him there.
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  Speaker 1: He was feeling good, he was throwing hard. He got
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  Speaker 1: a pretty solid deal for a guy that had a
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  Speaker 1: pretty rough season of numbers wise, Soroka did. And and
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  Speaker 1: I think you know, they believed they could do something
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  Speaker 1: similar with Michael King. Your best self, here's how we
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  Speaker 1: get you, keep you healthy, here's how we get you
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  Speaker 1: to being that best self. If they if they have
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  Speaker 1: like kind of proof of concept with Soroka, I think
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  Speaker 1: that's a that's something to cling to and and hope
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  Speaker 1: you can apply in different ways to different players. Obviously
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  Speaker 1: it's not gonna it's not gonna happen with Michael King
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  Speaker 1: in them, uh, but it was one little wrinkle that
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  Speaker 1: I thought was interesting and I thought was valuable for
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  Speaker 1: them to have this in their back pocket. We'll see
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  Speaker 1: if they can apply it to others, if there are
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  Speaker 1: other pictures who have been hurt in the pastor or
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  Speaker 1: whatever it may be, whoever they may acquire down the line. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: it is a nice thing to have. Obviously, it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: some devastating injury for Soroka. That's that's harder to do.
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  Speaker 1: But if it's these nagging injuries that pop up, usually
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  Speaker 1: delivery related, usually like the way you're throwing. If they
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  Speaker 1: they're good enough now to kind of identify these things,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see if it's something you can do over and
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  Speaker 1: over again, If it's something you can replicate.
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  Speaker 2: To do it once is impressive enough.
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  Speaker 1: But like if you can keep doing this and get
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  Speaker 1: a reputation for that, that's when it kind of takes off, right.
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  Speaker 1: That's the Cubs built that reputation of kind of rehabbing
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  Speaker 1: quality relief arms over the years, and that that was
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  Speaker 1: that made them a semi destination for some of these
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  Speaker 1: guys looking to come have a bounce back year and
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  Speaker 1: go sign a bigger deal elsewhere. But you know, obviously
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  Speaker 1: it's not going to happen with King, Why don't we
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  Speaker 1: take a quick break, Patrick and then come back and
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  Speaker 1: talk about some other options, and then just in general,
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  Speaker 1: what the cubs have done so far.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so Michael King is not an option. The
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  Speaker 1: Cubs have made it clear that pitching is their priority.
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  Speaker 1: They need to go out and get a starting pitcher.
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  Speaker 1: They're only you know, it's not like the cupboard is empty.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Probably the two main names we'd focus on our Tatsuya.
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  Speaker 2: Am I and and Zach Gallon. Uh. We don't know
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  Speaker 2: what what type of picture am I will be in MLB. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Gallon's coming off a down season for him, but I.
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  Speaker 1: Think both would be quality gets if you're if you're
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  Speaker 1: the Cubs. Uh. There's also Ranger Suarez out there. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think the Cubs are on him. They're looking for
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  Speaker 1: more swing and miss. Uh. These are all uh Scott
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  Speaker 1: Boris clients as well, So that kind of puts a
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  Speaker 1: little snag in things. I guess or or you know,
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  Speaker 1: Boris has to play his game as he tries to
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  Speaker 1: as he tries to place find homes for his players.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's why you Michael King is a
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  Speaker 3: nice picture with upside, but also comes with a lot
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  Speaker 3: of question marks And I don't I personally, don't think
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  Speaker 3: there's huge separation amongst a lot of these pictures that
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  Speaker 3: we've been talking about. Like obviously, you know Framber, who
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  Speaker 3: we have not heard link to the Cubs, you know,
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  Speaker 3: probably is the best resume. Obviously, Dylan Cees was kind
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  Speaker 3: of exceptional in terms of his durability and his swinging stuff,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, his track record is a little bit spotty,
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  Speaker 3: you know here and there, and so this does not
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  Speaker 3: feel like, you know, Alex Bregman third baseman was a
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  Speaker 3: sort of like you know, very narrow specific fit for
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  Speaker 3: the Cubs. There obviously are not a lot of third
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  Speaker 3: basement out there. You can go back to when they
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  Speaker 3: were on Matt Chapman as well, yet another Bors guy,
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  Speaker 3: but there are still options, and you know M's posting
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  Speaker 3: window closes January second. I don't know the exact sequencing
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  Speaker 3: and strategy here, but if you're Zach Allen, maybe wait
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  Speaker 3: until my signs. So there's a lot of crossover here,
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  Speaker 3: and we've gotten some mixed signals on him. I like,
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  Speaker 3: I know it's alluring. The Cubs have a good traffic
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  Speaker 3: record in Japan. Japanese pictures have had a ton of
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  Speaker 3: success coming over here. I just think there's sort of
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  Speaker 3: some uncertainty, a lack of clarity around is this guy
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  Speaker 3: more of like an ace or is he more of
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  Speaker 3: a back of the rotation starter, And he's probably somewhere
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  Speaker 3: in the middle, And like, how do you price that?
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  Speaker 3: He's got age going for him, He's got VLO that
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  Speaker 3: can touch the upper nineties. The Cubs have an infrastructure
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  Speaker 3: and a support system to help Japanese players succeed. So
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  Speaker 3: I get why they've been length, they've been involved. They
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  Speaker 3: have certainly, you know, been in the conversation with Scott
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  Speaker 3: Boris about a lot of different guys. I'm just curious, like,
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  Speaker 3: how is his market going to develop in terms of
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  Speaker 3: other suitors, and whether or not the Cubs feel like
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  Speaker 3: fully committed and convicted here to make you know, what
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  Speaker 3: could be rather large investment. And just one final point
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  Speaker 3: then I'll hand it over to his side. I like,
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  Speaker 3: there were these rumors that showed him Monaga when he
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  Speaker 3: first came over from Japan wanted a hundred million dollars.
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  Speaker 3: His camp denied that. They you know, they said they're
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  Speaker 3: very open minded. They didn't know where that came from.
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  Speaker 3: That could have just been a perception thing. Of like
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  Speaker 3: how kind of hot that market has become of these
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  Speaker 3: players coming over from Japan. But at that point the
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  Speaker 3: Cubs didn't really think they'd be involved. That didn't really
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  Speaker 3: line up with their priorities or their evaluation of the player.
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  Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden it got closer towards
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  Speaker 3: the end of the posting window and showed us hanging out,
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  Speaker 3: you know, in Schomberg or wherever it was, and like
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  Speaker 3: working out at Bo Jackson's Dome out bi O'Hare and
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  Speaker 3: you know, going to you know, posing by the Michael
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  Speaker 3: Jordan's statue, and I mean he went to a Hawks game.
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  Speaker 3: I'd have to go check my notes. But the point is,
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  Speaker 3: all of a sudden that sort of fell into their
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  Speaker 3: laps in a way that maybe or on the winter
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  Speaker 3: meetings didn't make sense. And we'll see kind of what
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  Speaker 3: happens with the may here and whether or not they
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  Speaker 3: line up in this case.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the questions on my are are legitimate. There's
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  Speaker 1: people all across the game that are kind of wondering
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  Speaker 1: what he will be. The fastball obviously has the velocity,
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  Speaker 1: does it have the characteristics that work against major league hitters?
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  Speaker 1: The breaking ball is incredibly unique, but it's not really
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  Speaker 1: a normal slider. It's it almost moves like a change
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  Speaker 1: up at times. And so does that really work against
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  Speaker 1: certain hitters? You know, it's a it's just a arsenal
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  Speaker 1: that they're not one hundred percent sure will justify the
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  Speaker 1: price tag that, like you said, do we know for
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  Speaker 1: certain this is what he's asking for. We don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but that some of the numbers that have been thrown
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  Speaker 1: out there, that makes him a little bit more uncomfortable going.
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  Speaker 2: In that realm.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, if it's a if, if the price is lower,
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  Speaker 1: then then suddenly, you know, team more teams are interested.
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  Speaker 1: If the Cubs are are genuinely interested, my guess is
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  Speaker 1: it would be at the at the not the you know,
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty, one hundred and fifty whatever that
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  Speaker 1: that price tag may have been, the higher end of it.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like the Cubs would be interested in that,
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I think some of our listeners would
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  Speaker 1: be like, of course the Cubs aren't interested at that level. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's a fair that's a fair way to look at it.
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  Speaker 1: But they certainly need pitching, and I think they they
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  Speaker 1: like him. It's the they like him, They may not
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  Speaker 1: love him when when the price gets to a certain point.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned the infrastructure. The infrastructure is there for for
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  Speaker 1: Japanese players in general. But it's also like, I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, what do they believe they can do with him?
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 1: What can they tease out of him? What can they adjust?
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  Speaker 1: What can what can make him more effective? State side?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think we have super clear answers on that yet,
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  Speaker 1: but if they acquire him, I guess we'll find out.
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  Speaker 2: And Gallon, of course, I think I oddly honest, I think.
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  Speaker 1: Gallen would be a really good get, like a guy
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  Speaker 1: coming off a down year that has the upside of
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  Speaker 1: like a two. Maybe he's pitched like an A's I
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  Speaker 1: think he's gotten cy Young votes before multiple years. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's a really really quality pitcher when he's right. The
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  Speaker 1: question is what do the Cubs believe? What do teams believe?
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  Speaker 1: Is he on the downside? It was last year a blip? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: What can they do to get him right? Those are
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  Speaker 1: all the questions that you have about him. I like
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  Speaker 1: Gallon and I think some people have have put him
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  Speaker 1: in like a the consolation prize bracket of this uh,
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  Speaker 1: of this free agency sweepstakes, whatever you want to call it.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's better than some people are giving him
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  Speaker 1: credit for. He's it's just a quality picture that's that's
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  Speaker 1: done a lot of really good things over the years.
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  Speaker 1: And to assume that last year is the start of
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  Speaker 1: a downfall, I mean, that's what the Cubs front office,
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  Speaker 1: that's their job figure that out. You know, that's on
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  Speaker 1: them to figure out. But I don't think it's fair
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  Speaker 1: to assume one hundred percent that this guy's like not
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  Speaker 1: as good of a picture as he once was.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, when when we've written about Gallen and linked him
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  Speaker 3: to the Cubs, again, looking at social media is never
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  Speaker 3: a good idea. But the general reactions have sort of
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  Speaker 3: been like, like you said, consolation prize or like kind
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  Speaker 3: of you know, online eye rolls to it. And I
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  Speaker 3: I get he wasn't He didn't have a great year
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  Speaker 3: last year. He was not traded at the deadline, the
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  Speaker 3: Cubs did not extend themselves for him then. But I
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  Speaker 3: just have a hard time squaring this sort of again
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  Speaker 3: perceptions of kind of what I'm seeing, you know, on
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  Speaker 3: X is like like, oh my god, you have to
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  Speaker 3: get a my like he's going to be amazing for
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  Speaker 3: like the next ten years, and then that like Zach
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  Speaker 3: Gallon is totally cooked and you know he's yeah, like that,
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  Speaker 3: he's at best a backup plan. And I think both
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  Speaker 3: those guys could be pretty good next year. I think
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  Speaker 3: both guys could be disappointments next year. And you're factoring
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  Speaker 3: in you know, posting fee versus draft pick qualifying offer penalties.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I think you got to go out and
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  Speaker 3: get one more starting pitcher who's accomplished, who has upside,
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  Speaker 3: And I don't think it's unreasonable to think that Zach
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  Speaker 3: Gallon could be better than Michael King next year, could
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  Speaker 3: be an All Star caliber pitcher and could be had
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  Speaker 3: at a deal that Zach Gallon would not have expected
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  Speaker 3: when he was you know, getting cy Young War votes
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  Speaker 3: year after year. I think it's maybe three of the
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  Speaker 3: previous five seasons something like that, Like guy pitched in
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  Speaker 3: the World Series. And my only thing with Maya is like,
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  Speaker 3: this is a team that's built to compete, that wants
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  Speaker 3: to win now. And what if my has kind of
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  Speaker 3: a reverse show to meaning like his first year's kind
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  Speaker 3: of what the end of show to second year was
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  Speaker 3: like showed a sort of spoiled everyone by just like
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  Speaker 3: the ground running yeah, you know, really was just fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: But we saw Withsaya Suzuki out there have been kind
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  Speaker 3: of some some growing pains here, some assimilation issues, like
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  Speaker 3: and it's probably unfair to like, you know, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: compare them to that extent, but I would have concerns
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  Speaker 3: if is am I ready to sort of handle the
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  Speaker 3: load of a frontline starter for a playoff contender. I
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  Speaker 3: think he can get there. I think that's certainly what
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  Speaker 3: the evaluation will be eventually. But getting a guy who
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  Speaker 3: pitched in the World Series before, who has kind of
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  Speaker 3: carried a rotation for long stretches, I don't think. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think that's a consolation prize.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, one small move that the Cubs did make Tyler
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  Speaker 1: Austen name some of you may be familiar with former
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  Speaker 1: top prospect I believe with the Yankees, played with a
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  Speaker 1: few teams in the big leagues before heading over to Japan,
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  Speaker 1: where he's had some really strong seasons. Right handed bat,
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  Speaker 1: first base, DH filds a bench role. I think this
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  Speaker 1: is a perfectly fine move in the sense that you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's justin Turner without the leadership for a quarter of
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  Speaker 1: the price, and we'll see if he produces. Even when
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: he was here, when when he was stateside, he was
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  Speaker 1: he hit lefties well, and that's probably probably gonna get
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  Speaker 1: Like he's not even gonna get as many at bats
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  Speaker 1: as Justin Turner did against righty's, would be my guess,
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  Speaker 1: like it's going to be a very limited role assuming
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  Speaker 1: he's you know, on the team the full season where
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: he gets a lot of at bats against lefties. If
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  Speaker 1: he produces, and and you know, I think it's worth
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  Speaker 1: the gamble.
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  Speaker 2: It's a.
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  Speaker 1: It's a it's probably the type of thing that sets
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  Speaker 1: off the fan base when they haven't made the big
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  Speaker 1: move yet.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the timing is pretty funny of like the whole
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  Speaker 3: baseball world waiting on, you know, a bunch of Japanese
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  Speaker 3: stars feel what they're doing, and the Cub's son, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a role player who hasn't played in the majors since
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  Speaker 3: the end of the twenty nineteen season, but always I
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: do think the Cubs are going to have a hard
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: time attracting some of these reserve players of like upgrade
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  Speaker 3: the bench. I was like, well, they don't play their
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: bench players. Yeah, and they had to do right finding
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: right handed hitters right now is pretty difficult. If you
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: look at the market, there's not a lot of great
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: options out there. I think Jed used the term because
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: we're unsustainably healthy on the position player side last season,
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: so they need to do some stuff there. And look,
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: if this is a guy who maybe figured out a
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  Speaker 3: couple of things over in Japan and is very happy
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  Speaker 3: and willing to take on a limited, part time role
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  Speaker 3: and who has a specific set of skills he played
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  Speaker 3: for counsel before. To quote our buddy mar Gonzalez, Milwaukee
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  Speaker 3: wasn't built in a day, and so they got another
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: former brewer to throw in there. Like, yeah, I think
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  Speaker 3: the goal the idea here is like he doesn't play
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: that much, but when he does, he can fill that
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  Speaker 3: specific role. Maybe he gets hot the way he did,
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: you know, for stretches with the Yankees.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we'll see what he can do.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I you know, I don't think it's like anything to
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: get up in arms about. We'll see the company to
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: make a lot more moves, but I think it's a nice,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: nice small edition. You make a good point that, like
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to fill out a bench when
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: you have guys that play every day, and don't say.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: Playing once a week and having your nights off at Wrigley,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, what like you not a whole lot of
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: opportunity at the moment, and they still have these young
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: guys that they want to break into so exactly.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll see what Tyler Austin does, We'll see what
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the Cubs do, what they're going to need to do more. Obviously,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: that's it for this episode of Northside Territory. Make sure
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• 23:30
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  Speaker 3: They go lived