Latest / The Bridges and Beacons Podcast / Power Animals with Atlantis Wolf
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- 0:37SPEAKER_01: Hello, and welcome to the Mystic Nerd Squad podcast, where I host candid conversations for the curious.
- 0:45SPEAKER_01: I'm your host, Kelly Meyerson, and this evening I am joined by the lovely Atlantis Wolf.
- 0:52SPEAKER_01: Atlantis is a shamanic life coach and workshop leader who helps people seeking answers to their medical, spiritual, or emotional questions in collaboration with her spirit guides, power animals, and galactic dragons.
- 1:07SPEAKER_01: And tonight, our topic is power animals.
- 1:11SPEAKER_01: And I'm going to let you take it away because I am so ready to nerd out on this topic.
- 1:17SPEAKER_00: Woo! Thank you, Kelly.
- 1:19SPEAKER_00: Thank you for having me.
- 1:20SPEAKER_00: I appreciate being here.
- 1:22SPEAKER_00: I appreciate as a nerd myself, since I do have an engineering degree.
- 1:26SPEAKER_00: I have a civil engineering degree, dual major in English, got a minor in environmental engineering.
- 1:31SPEAKER_00: I that's, you know, science is my game.
- 1:34SPEAKER_00: I'm all about science, but I'm also a super spiritual gal.
- 1:38SPEAKER_00: So I'm that fun person who can talk about anything for hours and hours.
- 1:43SPEAKER_00: Like we could sit and look at a topographic map of the world and talk about vortexes and where all the crystals are and where's the ridges and the mountains and things like that.
- 1:51SPEAKER_00: But today we're going to talk about power animals.
- 1:54SPEAKER_00: So a couple things.
- 1:56SPEAKER_00: One, there is a shamanic sort of um primer.
- 2:03SPEAKER_00: And what I what I mean by that is when we talk about shamanic, the word shamanic is one who sees in the dark.
- 2:10SPEAKER_00: And it's the oldest sort of um, it's not a philosophy and it's not a religion, but it's sort of like a way of living.
- 2:18SPEAKER_00: So it has everything to do with the spirit world.
- 2:22SPEAKER_00: And what that means is that the entire approach is sum summarized in two words, which is mitakwi owyasin, which is a Lakota phrase, and that means all my relations, meaning every living being is your relation.
- 2:40SPEAKER_00: So your family is not just your blood family, but your family is also the trees and the flowers and the lakes and the animals in your house, outside of your house, the two-legged, the four-legged, the winged birds, the whole concept is that it's one earth, one living being, and we are all living together and we're interconnected.
- 3:07SPEAKER_00: So when we talk about seeing in the dark, what we mean, and that's why you'll see some older um statues or some older carvings or things like that.
- 3:16SPEAKER_00: And you might even see something where they're covering their eyes, or they have something covering their eyes, and that's because they're not seeing three-dimensional, they're seeing in the spirit world.
- 3:28SPEAKER_00: And so they are the people who can either close it with their eyes open or closed, they can sense behind the veil, they can sense the spirit of the lake or the land or the people.
- 3:42SPEAKER_00: So, for example, if you have an ancestor, if your grandfather died and you see them, you are shamanically connected because you can see them or sense them, hear them.
- 3:54SPEAKER_00: It doesn't have to be sight per se.
- 3:56SPEAKER_00: It's really that's you know, that's just the broader term, but think of it more as sensing.
- 4:01SPEAKER_00: So if you're sensing in a way that we call the clairs, clairvoyant, claire audio, claire gustafson, there's people that taste and smell through the veils.
- 4:12SPEAKER_00: And um, those are really fun people too, because they're like, it tastes like something or another, like chocolate chip cookies.
- 4:18SPEAKER_00: I think it's my grandmother.
- 4:19SPEAKER_00: It's like, oh, it is your grandmother.
- 4:21SPEAKER_00: Um we're talking about, yeah.
- 4:23SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's it's like it's the it's it's the best way to spend a Friday night, let me tell you.
- 4:29SPEAKER_00: So so when we talk about animals, it's the spirit of animals.
- 4:33SPEAKER_00: So it could be literal, like it could be your cat that passed away and now is coming back, and you always feel your cat like on your shoulder where they used to sleep when you would do things.
- 4:43SPEAKER_00: Power animals have to do with the archetype.
- 4:46SPEAKER_00: So if you are connected to the archetype of, let's say, buffalo, you would say we would we would say that you carry buffalo medicine.
- 4:57SPEAKER_00: So the animal has medicine, has a way of guidance, has lessons, is a teacher for certain classes.
- 5:06SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 5:07SPEAKER_00: And then you work with that animal.
- 5:09SPEAKER_00: So buffalo, for example, is very grounded, they're very of the earth, uh, they're large.
- 5:15SPEAKER_00: So they they're all about holding a large presence and being grounded at the same time.
- 5:21SPEAKER_00: Other animals are large air presences or large water presence, but the buffalo is a large terrestrial presence.
- 5:28SPEAKER_00: So it's about being big, physically big, big voice, big shoulders.
- 5:34SPEAKER_00: You know, how do you manage your bigness and still be grounded, still be connected to the other living things, be mindful of the mouse when you're walking on the land, or be mindful of the smaller beings when you're around them.
- 5:51SPEAKER_00: So some people talk about, well, it's my life animal, or it's my I've I've heard a couple different things.
- 5:57SPEAKER_00: So in the shamanic world, we talk about two different things.
- 6:00SPEAKER_00: You have a power animal, and that's usually the one animal who carries lessons with you throughout your whole life.
- 6:07SPEAKER_00: So you're gonna have one.
- 6:09SPEAKER_00: Um, mine is a sea turtle.
- 6:11SPEAKER_00: So the sea turtle is trying to teach me the things that I hate to learn.
- 6:16SPEAKER_00: Patience.
- 6:18SPEAKER_00: Patience is the top one, and slowing down because I want to go, go, go, go, go, and do, do, do, do, do.
- 6:26SPEAKER_00: But the sea turtle just goes gliding through.
- 6:31SPEAKER_00: And sea turtles are very galactic.
- 6:33SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of imagery and fan art around you'll see uh a cosmic design, like you'll see stars and things, and then a sea turtle in them.
- 6:42SPEAKER_00: And you're like, how does that work?
- 6:43SPEAKER_00: Because they're so old, they have to learn lessons over hundreds of years, and so they carry this wisdom of survival, coming out of the egg, making it to the land, hiding.
- 6:58SPEAKER_00: You know, they hide in these um floating algae pieces just to try it, just until they can figure things out.
- 7:06SPEAKER_00: And most of them die, like 40% of sea turtles, they don't make it.
- 7:10SPEAKER_00: So the ones that do, they have these incredible lessons, they they hold this incredible energy.
- 7:16SPEAKER_00: Um, they're also connected uh to time because if you look at the back of the sea turtle, there's 13 pieces to their shell, and in the galactic calendar, not the tax table that we all are about to get new ones of here at Christmas, but the uh galactic calendar is 13 moons, 28 days each, they don't differ, and four weeks in each month.
- 7:44SPEAKER_00: They follow the 13 moons.
- 7:46SPEAKER_00: Every cycle, every 12-month cycle actually has 13 moons.
- 7:51SPEAKER_00: So the 13 number has to do with time.
- 7:54SPEAKER_00: So you have time, longevity, patience, all these lessons around survival, because it takes a lot to survive for hundreds of years.
- 8:04SPEAKER_00: Now, the totem animals, that's the other thing that you have.
- 8:08SPEAKER_00: The totem animals are the ones that you you will have multiple, and they're gonna teach you things at different times in your life.
- 8:14SPEAKER_00: So maybe you needed um like an armadillo.
- 8:20SPEAKER_00: Maybe there was a time in your life and you needed armadillo medicine, you need to really understand how to get small, become a ball, and roll out of a situation.
- 8:29SPEAKER_00: In that case, armadillo is part of your totem, but that's not the animal that really is trying to teach you a lifetime of lessons.
- 8:38SPEAKER_00: Does that make sense?
- 8:39SPEAKER_01: That does make sense.
- 8:41SPEAKER_01: So I know as people are listening, I know the first thing they're gonna want to know is how do I know what my power animal is?
- 8:49SPEAKER_01: How do I know what my totem animals are?
- 8:51SPEAKER_01: And of course, me, I'm like, okay, tell me, tell me, Atlantis, what are they?
- 8:58SPEAKER_00: So I have a lot of programming around I I could so I could see power animals um around people, and that's how I started to get um interested in it.
- 9:06SPEAKER_00: And I would just tell clients, like, so how do you feel about skunks?
- 9:11SPEAKER_00: And they're like, you know, nobody else likes skunks, but I like skunks.
- 9:15SPEAKER_00: I have skunk in my totem.
- 9:17SPEAKER_00: I and I I love having that in my totem because skunks don't think other skunks are stinky.
- 9:25SPEAKER_00: Meaning, if I like you and you're weird or you've got quirks or you, I don't even notice.
- 9:32SPEAKER_00: I frankly don't even notice.
- 9:33SPEAKER_00: It doesn't even bother me.
- 9:34SPEAKER_00: I, you know, if you you don't you have things that other people like, oh that person, they're so rash, they're so forthright, they're so whatever, you know.
- 9:42SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I never noticed.
- 9:44SPEAKER_00: Um, but skunk medicine also has a way because um, in a shock to everyone, I don't really like people that much.
- 9:55SPEAKER_00: I help people, I love people, I heal people, I don't really like people all that much, like socially.
- 10:03SPEAKER_00: I have like three girlfriends, one best friend.
- 10:05SPEAKER_00: I'm good.
- 10:06SPEAKER_00: You're good, I'm good.
- 10:08SPEAKER_00: So I tend in groups of people to be like, no, this is not this is not my bag.
- 10:14SPEAKER_00: Like, I need to be out in the woods, I need to be like uh meditating with dragons, and and then I'm like, oh, now I'm alive, okay, yeah.
- 10:23SPEAKER_00: But you know, ask me like, so what do you think about like the 2019 Volvo?
- 10:27SPEAKER_00: I'm like, what?
- 10:30SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't even know where to start.
- 10:32SPEAKER_00: I don't even know.
- 10:32SPEAKER_00: I don't want to talk about that.
- 10:34SPEAKER_00: So skunk medicine is a way of being sort of like it's like you have a smell that people can automatically feel repels them.
- 10:44SPEAKER_00: And and my business partner who I have been partners with for six years, and I absolutely love her, she can actually see when it happens now because I'll just like walk into a situation and be like, mm-hmm, not impressed.
- 10:58SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 10:59SPEAKER_00: She's like, I swear I can like see it happening, and it's so funny.
- 11:03SPEAKER_00: So I can tell you what your power animal is, but I really prefer to let people discover that for themselves.
- 11:10SPEAKER_00: However, the cool thing about me is that, and I and I like to do it through leading people through a meditation with a drum, you know, get them, and I could do it over Zoom, and and actually that's a good segue because I usually do an hour and a half uh Zoom call, or it could be in person too, if you happen to be in Lake Erie in the Great Lakes region.
- 11:32SPEAKER_00: But I usually do it for um$225.
- 11:35SPEAKER_00: It's an hour and a half session, and it's all about not just finding your power animal, but how to meditate with your power animal, how to find a connection with your power animal and things like that.
- 11:45SPEAKER_00: However, for all these people that are friends with Kelly Meyerson, um you, you people, I will offer that to all the people that are listening here for a hundred dollars for the same hour and a half session.
- 12:01SPEAKER_00: And all you have to do is email me at dragonmedicinewoman at gmail.com.
- 12:08SPEAKER_00: And in the subject line, just put Mystic Nerd Great.
- 12:15SPEAKER_00: And and then we'll set up whatever is convenient for your time zone.
- 12:19SPEAKER_00: People are all over the world.
- 12:20SPEAKER_00: Uh, the book that I just finished, we were in 11 like countries and places and things like that.
- 12:26SPEAKER_00: So um I'm more than happy to make accommodations for other time zones and weekend and night and stuff like that.
- 12:33SPEAKER_00: But if you're listening, instead of 225, you get it for$100 and you can meet your power animal, and I'll know if you're cheating.
- 12:42SPEAKER_00: Because if you say that it's a flaming griffin that came from Saturn, I'll be like, and then what do you see it carrying?
- 12:52SPEAKER_00: Like, what's on its back?
- 12:54SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's a possum, which also has really good medicine.
- 12:59SPEAKER_00: Um, so I have seen the the the fun part is you know, it's normally pretty like normal animals, you know, lions, uh birds, like cockatoos.
- 13:12SPEAKER_00: So just just for our listeners, just just to like just for fun.
- 13:18SPEAKER_00: So yours is the cockatoo that has like the yellow on the top, Kelly.
- 13:22SPEAKER_00: It's white, and it's very like fine, and it's a lady, but it's the one that has that really like buttery, like the golden yellow on the top.
- 13:33SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's so cool.
- 13:36SPEAKER_00: So I love it.
- 13:37SPEAKER_00: See, and everybody loves their power animal, even if you're like, oh, it's a fly, you know, like I always wanted to fly, that's so cool.
- 13:46SPEAKER_01: I love it.
- 13:47SPEAKER_01: I can't I can't say that I've ever like thought about that, but I love little birds, I think they're the sweetest little things.
- 13:54SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and so birds are the messengers between the land and the air, which means they're very spiritual because they work between those two worlds.
- 14:04SPEAKER_00: So we're land, so it's hard for us to be spiritual people, but birds are very spiritual.
- 14:10SPEAKER_00: It's very easy for them to take a message from the land, from people and animals walking on the land and carry it up into the sky and into what we call the cloud nations and up into the spirits in the sky, and then similarly to get messages to retrieve and bring them back down.
- 14:29SPEAKER_00: So my gosh, love it's so fun.
- 14:32SPEAKER_00: Uh now it also the the weirdest thing I ever saw was somebody actually has a triceratops power animal.
- 14:41SPEAKER_00: I didn't even know that that was possible.
- 14:43SPEAKER_00: Like I thought it had to be kind of not extinct, like current, yeah.
- 14:50SPEAKER_00: And it really freaked me out.
- 14:51SPEAKER_00: But he said he always loved dinosaurs as a kid and he could never they could never get him out of the history museum.
- 14:56SPEAKER_00: And he just he he was always just very much enchanted with that world and and all of that.
- 15:03SPEAKER_00: So when I told him that, he was so excited.
- 15:05SPEAKER_00: I I thought, oh, here's the one he's gonna say, Um, are you really charging me for this?
- 15:14SPEAKER_00: But um, but every once in a while, someone doesn't have a power animal per se, but sometimes they are an animal.
- 15:23SPEAKER_00: Like there are people that are mermaids when I'm like, so what's their power animal?
- 15:27SPEAKER_00: And they're like, like they are that living that that anime part of them, anima, the soul part of them, the spirit part is actually it could be a mermaid, or I've seen pixies and fairies, and people say, How do you tell the difference between a pixie and the fairy?
- 15:46SPEAKER_00: But it's the wings, so the top of the wings on the pixies are very pointy, and also they're fairly sarcastic.
- 15:52SPEAKER_00: I'll be honest.
- 15:53SPEAKER_00: Pixies are not really peep little people I like to hang around with, and fairies are like, ah, what a beautiful day.
- 16:03SPEAKER_00: You know, and they're like, and those are the people that are always late, they have no concept of time, they just float around, they're very sensitive, they're very, you know, sensitive to like they if they haven't been outside, they need to be outside a lot, they need sunshine, they need grass, they need flowers, they're um they're not that hard to spot after you put it together, like, hmm.
- 16:25SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm thinking.
- 16:26SPEAKER_01: I think I know some of these people.
- 16:28SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, yeah.
- 16:29SPEAKER_00: Well, and you know, for me, so my background is in medical massage and moving into now shamanic life coaching, you know, it was critical because people would show up with fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue and adrenal fatigue.
- 16:44SPEAKER_00: And these are all things over the last 12 years that I was able to help every single person through.
- 16:49SPEAKER_00: But it was it was because I was looking at it from 18 different ways, like, hmm, why?
- 16:54SPEAKER_00: You know, you're so fierce and like this one person who had tattoos of animals all over her body.
- 17:01SPEAKER_00: I mean, tat, sleeves, legs, everything.
- 17:04SPEAKER_00: It was all animals.
- 17:06SPEAKER_00: And she was so committed to animals.
- 17:07SPEAKER_00: I thought, well, she's probably just burned out from volunteering.
- 17:10SPEAKER_00: But then I looked at her in her spirit, and she was a fairy.
- 17:14SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh my God.
- 17:15SPEAKER_00: I said, Do you spend a lot of time outside?
- 17:17SPEAKER_00: She's like, No, I work at a kidney dialysis um place, you know, like not, you know, not the hospital, like the the place people go for dialysis.
- 17:26SPEAKER_00: She's there, yeah.
- 17:27SPEAKER_00: I work like 12 hour days and then I go home and I just collapse.
- 17:30SPEAKER_00: I'm like, that's why you have fibromyalgia.
- 17:34SPEAKER_00: That's beautiful outside.
- 17:36SPEAKER_00: Need, like for life for life.
- 17:40SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, yeah, you need to go and like put your back against a tree and meditate with a tree and really allow your spirit to move into the tree so you can get into the tree roots.
- 17:51SPEAKER_00: And you know, it's great because I've only told some people this for years, and now people are like, Oh, tell me the weird stuff.
- 17:58SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, All right.
- 18:00SPEAKER_00: But uh, you know, at first I was like, How do you feel about fairies?
- 18:04SPEAKER_00: And she was like, Oh, I love fairies.
- 18:05SPEAKER_00: I have fairies all over my bedroom when I was a kid.
- 18:08SPEAKER_00: I'm like, okay, you're a fairy.
- 18:11SPEAKER_00: Confirmed.
- 18:12SPEAKER_00: And she was like, Oh, oh, wow, oh, okay.
- 18:16SPEAKER_00: And she's, you know, vegan, she's just so like pro-animal.
- 18:20SPEAKER_00: But so everybody can either have power animals, you can sort of like hold and carry that um animal or anime, you know, like the anima, the Latin for soul, with you, or you can have them operating around you, but everybody has them, every single person.
- 18:40SPEAKER_00: There's there's nobody that doesn't have animal spirits around them.
- 18:45SPEAKER_00: And it can be unicorns, it doesn't have to be something that you've seen in real life.
- 18:51SPEAKER_00: Um, for me, the I see the totem is actually on the medicine wheel.
- 18:56SPEAKER_00: So the medicine wheel in the shamanic tradition is the wheel of life, and so it looks to the cardinal points the north, south, east, and west, the east being the birth, so everything being like new.
- 19:10SPEAKER_00: So you think of it as kind of the sun.
- 19:12SPEAKER_00: So it's the newness and the birth of not just you, but maybe the cycle that you're going through.
- 19:17SPEAKER_00: If you're going through the cycle of um being pregnant and having a child, and then birthing that child, you know, you we would say that you go through the medicine wheel, you go through all those different stages.
- 19:29SPEAKER_00: So the east, the birth, the south is when the sun is right over you, so it's maturity, then the west is the setting sun, and it's the end of the cycle or the end of your lifetime, and then the north is the spirit world.
- 19:44SPEAKER_00: So that's your where your ancestors are, your pets that have passed away, your um guides, your healers, your you know, um, all the spiritual beings that are around you that are always helping you.
- 19:58SPEAKER_00: You face the north and get help from them.
- 20:00SPEAKER_00: So for me, my totem is my sea turtle to the east, my buffalo to the south, my wolf to the west, and then my dragons to the north.
- 20:15SPEAKER_00: Um, so that's how I live.
- 20:20SPEAKER_01: That's so it's so cool.
- 20:22SPEAKER_01: I love it.
- 20:23SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, for everybody listening, uh Atlantis and I met because we were in a book project together, Sacred Medicine, um, led by Jen Piseno.
- 20:34SPEAKER_01: And uh your child, oh yeah, I mean, we could we could have a whole podcast on how wonderful Jen Piseno is.
- 20:41SPEAKER_01: I had her here episode one, so go back and check that out if you haven't already.
- 20:45SPEAKER_01: But um, this was a magical project.
- 20:48SPEAKER_01: I don't know, you probably felt the same way I did that the people the people and spirits that were part of this project were just amazing.
- 20:58SPEAKER_01: Atlantis and I were talking about her upcoming project, which I'm sure she'll share a little bit with us about.
- 21:04SPEAKER_01: But um when I was writing, and I I wrote four books this past year, when I was writing this chapter, it just like flowed out of me like a piece of music.
- 21:18SPEAKER_01: It was beautiful, it was amazing.
- 22:42SPEAKER_01: It was such like an amazing experience from beginning to end, and it just felt incredible the whole time.
- 22:48SPEAKER_01: Um, still feels that way, but uh your chapter is so gorgeous in that book.
- 22:55SPEAKER_01: I can't wait to read whatever you have coming out next.
- 22:57SPEAKER_01: I want to read it because um I was really touched by it.
- 23:01SPEAKER_01: It was a beautiful story, um, and it really it really moved me.
- 23:06SPEAKER_01: So maybe you can tell us a little bit about that chapter.
- 23:10SPEAKER_00: Um, well, I'll I'll turn the tables just one question.
- 23:12SPEAKER_00: So I'm curious because it was so personal, what part of it touched you?
- 23:16SPEAKER_00: And I can elaborate more about that part.
- 23:19SPEAKER_01: I think what really touched me was, you know, I I related to your experience of, you know, being in your 40s and like finally coming to terms with life and your power and your strength.
- 23:35SPEAKER_01: Um, and the the way that you described what it felt like for you being a child and being silent.
- 23:45SPEAKER_01: Um it really touched me because I feel like I could relate to that.
- 23:50SPEAKER_01: I wasn't always as outgoing as I am now in my 40s, also.
- 23:55SPEAKER_01: So you know, I something happened.
- 23:59SPEAKER_01: When you turn 40, and it's like, well, I'm just gonna say whatever I'm thinking.
- 24:03SPEAKER_01: It's not really anymore.
- 24:05SPEAKER_01: Right?
- 24:05SPEAKER_01: Does that happen to just about everybody?
- 24:07SPEAKER_01: I think.
- 24:08SPEAKER_01: But um I don't know.
- 24:10SPEAKER_01: I just in, and when I was younger, I had this obsession with dragons.
- 24:18SPEAKER_01: I loved dragons.
- 24:20SPEAKER_01: I used to write poetry about dragons.
- 24:23SPEAKER_01: I loved like I had this vision of like being in Ireland with dragons.
- 24:29SPEAKER_01: Like this is yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 24:32SPEAKER_01: Anyway.
- 24:33SPEAKER_00: No, not anyway.
- 24:34SPEAKER_00: This is great.
- 24:35SPEAKER_00: I want to hear more about this.
- 24:36SPEAKER_00: So um, so a couple things.
- 24:40SPEAKER_00: Um, yes, I grew up with a rage a holic, so that's a person who just you never know when they're gonna pop.
- 24:45SPEAKER_00: Um, full disclosure, I remember my 40s, but I'm actually 51 now.
- 24:51SPEAKER_00: So if you think you're yeah, oh yeah, all the cats are out of the just me.
- 24:57SPEAKER_00: It's just like it's gonna get so much worse.
- 25:00SPEAKER_00: Um, and it was really hard for me to write about.
- 25:02SPEAKER_00: Um, one of the reasons why I was writing under a pen name is because I didn't want my family to find out that I was writing about all of these secrets and all of the stuff that we all know.
- 25:13SPEAKER_00: It's it's like not even the dysfunction, it's the it was the fear because I grew up in fear, complete and total just terror, because I never knew what was going to trigger my dad.
- 25:23SPEAKER_00: And he's big and he's loud and he's scary.
- 25:26SPEAKER_00: And that's you know, I call I call your parents your master programmers because I think of us all as like we have all these programs running in our head.
- 25:33SPEAKER_00: Um, kind of like he said, you can't be a writer.
- 25:36SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I want to be a writer.
- 25:38SPEAKER_00: And he was like, No, I'm an engineer.
- 25:41SPEAKER_00: You're gonna be an engineer.
- 25:42SPEAKER_00: Your brother's not smart enough to be an engineer, it's done.
- 25:44SPEAKER_00: You're gonna be an engineer.
- 25:45SPEAKER_00: I'm like, well, uh, oh, and it there's nothing to be done.
- 25:52SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, I grew up on a dirt road, it was a single road, it was isolating, there was nowhere for me to go.
- 25:58SPEAKER_00: It's not like I could run away to the big city or, you know, find my way somewhere else.
- 26:02SPEAKER_00: That was it.
- 26:03SPEAKER_00: So um it was it was tough.
- 26:06SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was really, really tough.
- 26:07SPEAKER_00: But I had I was out in the country, so I had the woods and I would walk barefoot and get outside and sit on the roof of the house and whistle to the robins and try and sound like a robin and you know, pick up pine needles and do all kinds of, you know, anything to stay away from that rage.
- 26:25SPEAKER_00: Um, but it's what's interesting too is because I became so silent, I still wanted to express what was happening.
- 26:31SPEAKER_00: And so I would just be inside.
- 26:34SPEAKER_00: So the way that I think about it is that it's like a tree that's trying to grow towards the sun to their full expression, and they're always getting cut down, like every time, cut down.
- 26:46SPEAKER_00: Well, they're still gonna keep growing, but they just grow underground, they grow their roots deep, knowing that someday they won't get cut, someday there won't be that, you know, great big machete cutting them down.
- 26:59SPEAKER_00: And so for me, the experience felt like just getting deeper and deeper into myself.
- 27:05SPEAKER_00: So I was and and I was writing, you know, I was writing since I was 12 years old, so that's a really long time.
- 27:12SPEAKER_00: So I, although it's coming out now, like, wow, you're a really good writer.
- 27:17SPEAKER_00: I'm like, you know, I kind of hope so after all those years of right, like just writing to myself, like, well, this sucks again.
- 27:27SPEAKER_00: Um, but I I it was it was so important to write it, and it felt so good.
- 27:34SPEAKER_00: And you know, I didn't want anybody to find out, but I also wanted a pen name because I'm really into this idea.
- 27:40SPEAKER_00: And Atlantis Wolf is my spirit name, and good segue, I wrote about where my name comes from in the book and the chapter I just finished.
- 27:48SPEAKER_00: So the book is called Shamanic Breath Work.
- 27:50SPEAKER_00: It's by my teacher, Linda Starwolf, who gave me my name, Atlantis Wolf.
- 27:55SPEAKER_00: She's a shaman.
- 27:56SPEAKER_00: And the story of how that happened is in her book because I thought that made the most sense to put it in there.
- 28:01SPEAKER_00: And that one, I just turned it in.
- 28:04SPEAKER_00: It's the best thing I've ever written.
- 28:05SPEAKER_00: If I died tomorrow, I would go up saying, Yes, yes, I wrote something fabulous.
- 28:13SPEAKER_00: Like, hang your hat.
- 28:14SPEAKER_00: If there was a contest to put stuff in, I would be putting that in.
- 28:18SPEAKER_00: It is beyond good.
- 28:21SPEAKER_00: Like it is exact.
- 28:23SPEAKER_00: And I took on the concept of shamanic death.
- 28:25SPEAKER_00: So, not, you know, it's not small.
- 28:28SPEAKER_00: But um, that's coming out in March 2022.
- 28:31SPEAKER_00: Shamanic death is the death that where you let go of your identity.
- 28:36SPEAKER_00: So if somebody said, You can't be a writer, peeling that back is very painful because somebody wrapped that around you when you were very small, so you believe them.
- 28:45SPEAKER_00: But it's the concept of other people telling you things about yourself and wrapping that around you, and you believe them.
- 28:51SPEAKER_00: It's very difficult to take off those things.
- 28:54SPEAKER_00: I call them the invisible vestments and the garments of our identity because it's not chosen.
- 29:01SPEAKER_00: You didn't choose, you can say on a soul level, but we're gonna put that to the side.
- 29:05SPEAKER_00: But you didn't choose to be, you know, like a Pittsburgh Steelers fan, but there they are, they put you in all those clothes all your life, and you're like, Go Steelers.
- 29:13SPEAKER_00: I don't give a shit about football, but here I am.
- 29:16SPEAKER_00: And so, you know, it's like being taking that off, like taking off your your nationality, or I'm proud to be living in this state or that state or this country or that country, or you know, like pick something that somebody put on you, a limiting belief, the idea that you're stupid, like you shouldn't be speaking because you don't have anything good to say.
- 29:38SPEAKER_00: I mean, we all have these things.
- 29:41SPEAKER_00: So the chapter is about me taking off those some of those things, but it's it's just the archetypal concept of identity, because at the core, you're this beautiful ball of conscious love, and you're connected to all living things, full of love, and you're not afraid.
- 30:04SPEAKER_00: And all of this stuff that gets put on us is really just fear, you know.
- 30:08SPEAKER_00: It's like, oh, I'm afraid not to be a Pittsburgh Steelers fan.
- 30:12SPEAKER_00: I'm afraid my dad is actually gonna hurt me, you know, if I speak up.
- 30:16SPEAKER_00: I'm afraid of not being an engineer.
- 30:19SPEAKER_00: I don't even know why.
- 30:20SPEAKER_00: It's like all these things like what's gonna happen?
- 30:22SPEAKER_00: What are they gonna do?
- 30:23SPEAKER_00: Take away your birthday, but when you're little, you don't know.
- 30:26SPEAKER_00: You don't know, you don't know, and you're scared, and so it was so scary to write it.
- 30:31SPEAKER_00: And the ironic thing is that he got mad at me because I criticized a painting of my mom, which is horrifyingly awful, and I complained about it to my cousin.
- 30:42SPEAKER_00: My cousin got back to my dad, and my dad, because rageholics are rageholics their whole life.
- 30:47SPEAKER_00: They don't if if you're a narcissist, rageholic, you're not getting over that anytime soon without really wanting to.
- 30:54SPEAKER_00: So he wrote me out of his will.
- 30:55SPEAKER_00: He just said, That's it, you're done.
- 30:57SPEAKER_00: I'm uh you don't get anything, and get out and stay out, and I don't ever want to see you again.
- 31:03SPEAKER_00: And my reaction is I was there, which is again like a shamanic initiation because you're you're there in the fire going, This is fantastic! I can write about anything I want, I can do anything I want.
- 31:17SPEAKER_00: Wow, freedom, freedom, total freedom.
- 31:21SPEAKER_00: And at the end of the day, what I knew in the back of my mind, and I and I really had it reinforced uh that day, which was just this July, um, is that freedom at any cost.
- 31:35SPEAKER_00: I don't care, keep your millions of dollars.
- 31:37SPEAKER_00: If I die poor, I'll still say I wrote a damn good chapter.
- 31:41SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
- 31:42SPEAKER_00: I did I'll still be more than once, right?
- 31:45SPEAKER_00: I still like raised two kids, I still adopted other kids, I still like helped people, I still took in cats until I had too many.
- 31:53SPEAKER_00: It's like it doesn't matter.
- 31:54SPEAKER_00: All of a sudden, it was just this concept of freedom at any cost, any cost, it doesn't matter.
- 32:00SPEAKER_00: Just you were free.
- 32:01SPEAKER_00: And I left.
- 32:02SPEAKER_00: I know that he was, you know, just literally like a hornet's nest, dropped down his pants, but I I've never been flustered as an adult after I got mad at him the one time, which is what I wrote wrote about in the sacred medicine, and said, I have the right to ask questions and I have the right to do what I want.
- 32:19SPEAKER_00: And it it might have been the only time I screamed in my life, but that was a big one.
- 32:25SPEAKER_00: And ever since then, it's like, huh, yeah, you don't bother me.
- 32:31SPEAKER_00: And he doesn't, he he's his own worst enemy.
- 32:34SPEAKER_00: And you know, I was saying, I don't want to give him any airtime.
- 32:38SPEAKER_00: Like, thank you for being my teacher, you're a narcissist, you're your own worst enemy, and great, whatever, not my problem.
- 32:46SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, well, done.
- 32:49SPEAKER_01: And when you wrote it, the power, your power in those words.
- 32:55SPEAKER_01: Like, I almost felt like I was being hit square in the chest.
- 32:59SPEAKER_01: Like what you said and how you said it came across so strong.
- 33:03SPEAKER_01: And I was like, I'm with her in this.
- 33:05SPEAKER_01: I feel this, like I was in that room.
- 33:08SPEAKER_01: So you you are a very, very good writer.
- 33:12SPEAKER_01: I was like, that was a very short chapter.
- 33:15SPEAKER_01: I want more.
- 33:25SPEAKER_01: That's a great idea.
- 33:26SPEAKER_01: That is a great idea.
- 33:27SPEAKER_01: You should definitely do that because I the the writing and you know, I mean, I I love sacred medicine, of course, having been in the book and and read the chapters, but uh it was a very powerful chapter in there.
- 33:42SPEAKER_01: And um, I think anybody who hasn't checked out the book should absolutely do so um because it will it will change and enhance the joy in your life.
- 33:54SPEAKER_00: And that's um thank you very much for that.
- 33:57SPEAKER_00: That's very um it's a it's a wonderful gift to be afraid to do something and then do it and and get support for it.
- 34:09SPEAKER_00: So I always wanted to be a writer.
- 34:12SPEAKER_00: I always, it was always my dream.
- 34:14SPEAKER_00: I always just I can't even explain it.
- 34:17SPEAKER_00: There's no writers in the family, there's there's no writers in my ancestors.
- 34:21SPEAKER_00: There's just I I can't really put it down, but I've just always had this um this calling to write.
- 34:28SPEAKER_00: And it's such it's been such a joy to meet you, to meet Laura, to meet Jen, to just like find my people.
- 34:34SPEAKER_00: Um so much so that after I after I wrote that chapter and I said, you know, this is where it is, I unfriended every single family member on Facebook.
- 34:45SPEAKER_00: And I was just like, these are this is my family.
- 34:49SPEAKER_00: I don't need to put up with any of this.
- 34:51SPEAKER_00: Little, like, let me try and be small, like for Thanksgiving, or let me try and be small for the family picnic and whatever.
- 34:57SPEAKER_00: I'm like, no, I'm so done, you know, I'm just I'm so done.
- 35:02SPEAKER_00: But the cool thing about that chapter is it was about power, it was about how do you without diminishing someone else, without making someone else feel small reflexively, stand in your power, and that's what it was about.
- 35:19SPEAKER_00: And dragons are a symbol of power because they are equal, light and dark, they don't have an ego.
- 35:28SPEAKER_00: We have an ego, we we have that duality, and the duality where we were just one, we were just our soul, and then we split off, so it's soul and ego, so that we could observe ourself and see ourselves out in the universe.
- 35:45SPEAKER_00: But dragons and angels, they're the original beings in the universe, they don't have ego, so they do things for love and for no other reason.
- 35:53SPEAKER_00: And so the dragon medicine is about stepping into your personal power because no one questions the power of a dragon.
- 36:01SPEAKER_00: When a dragon is in the room, a dragon spirit, a dragon force, you know, they don't need to be loud and spit fire and squish people and and do all the things that they could do.
- 36:14SPEAKER_00: And I think of it as the great samurai's.
- 36:17SPEAKER_00: The great samurais were the greatest swordsmen in the world, and they never used their sword.
- 36:22SPEAKER_00: They would try and use their wits, they would try and use diplomacy, they would try and do other things, and dragons are the same way, they're not coming in guns ablazing, they're coming in saying, How can we all ascend as a planet?
- 36:39SPEAKER_00: How can we all understand each other and reach each other and find a way to connect in love with each other because they have no ego and they're equal, male and female, the yin, the yang.
- 36:52SPEAKER_00: So one of the things that that's one of the things I talk about, and what I've built my practice on is personal power.
- 37:00SPEAKER_00: If you want to know where you lost power, what's the thing you fear the most?
- 37:07SPEAKER_00: I feared coming out and saying, So I see stuff.
- 37:15SPEAKER_00: See stuff a lot of stuff.
- 37:19SPEAKER_00: Um I can tell when people are in their extraterrestrial original form when and when Earth was not their first incarnation, because I like to just when I'm working on people say, like, who are you?
- 37:30SPEAKER_00: You know, just sort of who are you?
- 37:32SPEAKER_00: Who's the people around you?
- 37:33SPEAKER_00: And sometimes they feel funny.
- 37:36SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I feel a little funny because uh, and it's a star being and I'm a star being, so I'm like, you feel like me.
- 37:43SPEAKER_00: What's what's going on here?
- 37:45SPEAKER_00: And then I'm like, go ahead, just show me your original form.
- 37:47SPEAKER_00: And sometimes they're little inside of like this big human body.
- 37:51SPEAKER_00: Uh, one of them looks like it's like a bronze, like bronze, like C3PO.
- 37:55SPEAKER_00: That's that color, but it's almost like a grasshopper head and a light armor kind of thing, but very shiny.
- 38:04SPEAKER_00: Um, some the coolest, not not to be like into superlatives, one of the most wonderful things I ever saw.
- 38:12SPEAKER_00: There was a guide that came in for one of my clients, and he had a strange sound, and he looked kind of like um almost like an abominable snowman sort of size, and he was just made out of triangles.
- 38:25SPEAKER_00: And when the triangles moved, they had a certain sound to them.
- 38:29SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
- 38:29SPEAKER_00: And he didn't have like eyes and ears and stuff like that.
- 38:33SPEAKER_00: And I just looked at him in spirit, you know.
- 38:35SPEAKER_00: I'm still like just eyes closed.
- 38:37SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to be cool, like, wow.
- 38:39SPEAKER_00: Um, and I said, Where do you come from?
- 38:41SPEAKER_00: And he said, The edge.
- 38:44SPEAKER_00: I'm like, like of the universe.
- 38:50SPEAKER_00: Wow.
- 38:51SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's so cool.
- 38:53SPEAKER_00: It was very, very cool.
- 38:55SPEAKER_00: But um, I tell people this all the time.
- 38:58SPEAKER_00: If you walk into this world, if you walk into your senses, your clairs, your clairvoyant and your clair audio, and you always just approach it with awe and wonder, you're in, you're golden, you're fine.
- 39:11SPEAKER_00: You're it's it's gonna be there for you for everybody who says, I want to see stuff and I want to do stuff.
- 39:17SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, you're being called somewhere, somehow, to to sense kinesthetically, you know, like maybe it's with your body, maybe it's numbers.
- 39:25SPEAKER_00: You know, a lot of people decipher things in numbers.
- 39:28SPEAKER_00: Um, and it's sort of uh a matter of, you know, starting to understand the sacred numbers, like what does it mean if you see 333 instead of just three, you know, what's what's sort of the harmony um of abundance or change or angels are here or whatever.
- 39:46SPEAKER_00: It's gonna happen for you, and it probably already is, but don't want what you don't have because you have some perfect, fabulous gift that nobody else has, you know, and and it's important, it's important to just really lean into whatever it is because I guarantee you that we need it.
- 40:08SPEAKER_00: Like we as a planet, we need you to be talking to crystals or you know, clearing the land.
- 40:17SPEAKER_00: I know some people that just sense like where there's darkness in the land and they anchor light uh columns of light into the land and they help to repair uh like the Native American sacred contracts that were broken or the treaties or when there was a massacre on the land, or you know, any anything that was um unnatural, it wasn't like a natural cycle of life and death, clearing that out.
- 40:43SPEAKER_00: So um yeah, I just sort of like to remind people treat it with awe and wonder and just play with it.
- 40:52SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 40:53SPEAKER_01: Oh, I love that.
- 40:54SPEAKER_01: And I I agree with you.
- 40:55SPEAKER_01: I think I think we all have some unique piece of us to bring forward.
- 41:02SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, I can say like just being a little bit vulnerable myself, like wanting to be out and helping people and you know, kind of like putting on the coat of like I'm a I'm a coach and I'm gonna help people, like I love helping people with their wellness and well-being.
- 41:21SPEAKER_01: And then feeling like I don't, this doesn't really fit me right.
- 41:25SPEAKER_01: I don't feel this right.
- 41:26SPEAKER_01: But when I started to talk, you know, to Jen about doing, I'm like, I I'm like a mystic nerd, like I wanna do like a mystic nerd squad podcast.
- 41:38SPEAKER_01: And she was like, you should do that.
- 41:40SPEAKER_01: And I was like, but that's like you know, I was like, it's just an idea.
- 41:44SPEAKER_01: And I was like, you know, I just really want to talk to people and nerd out on topics uh of the mystical realm and science and like talk about all these things, and that that's just what I want to do.
- 41:56SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's just it's so much fun, so much more fun, right?
- 42:00SPEAKER_00: And the the science will catch up.
- 42:02SPEAKER_00: The science always catches up.
- 42:03SPEAKER_00: I mean, for people who are wanting to talk about science, to me, I always point people towards Bruce Lipton, the biology of belief.
- 42:11SPEAKER_00: You want to read about science, go read everything that Bruce Lipton, the cellular biologist, wrote about how when they would take blood out of one side, you know, and then do stuff to it, it would be at the other side of the clinic and it would be reacting to what they were doing if they were putting in love or um war or you know, different things.
- 42:32SPEAKER_00: And that's like ad nauseum.
- 42:34SPEAKER_00: There's there's so many things, but uh to me that's one of the favorite things is between Dr.
- 42:38SPEAKER_00: Joe Dispenza and uh Dr.
- 42:41SPEAKER_00: Bruce Lipton as far as like the total geek out nerd data.
- 42:46SPEAKER_00: But at some point, it's almost like it's just more fun to talk about it and be around people who have gifts and they're starting to to really embrace them and be okay with them.
- 42:58SPEAKER_00: And uh you don't need you don't need the data to believe.
- 43:02SPEAKER_00: I think I actually got a visit from my mom.
- 43:05SPEAKER_00: You know, I feel like she is here.
- 43:07SPEAKER_00: I'm like, yeah, you do.
- 43:08SPEAKER_00: Do you do you really need like a momogram to hook you up to and say, yeah, no, come on?
- 43:14SPEAKER_00: It's your it's just it's your sense, just sense it, just sense it, just reach out.
- 43:19SPEAKER_00: We can we can experience 22 dimensions, well proven.
- 43:23SPEAKER_00: So reach out, just give it a shot.
- 43:26SPEAKER_00: But the the more you can treat it like I always like to say, if you really want to understand me, just pretend you're talking to a nine-year-old girl with an enormous black dragon standing behind her, and that's it.
- 43:40SPEAKER_00: We're good.
- 43:41SPEAKER_00: That's it, we're good.
- 43:43SPEAKER_00: I love it.
- 43:45SPEAKER_01: Carry on.
- 43:47SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I'm so here for it.
- 43:50SPEAKER_01: All the the people that I've been able to meet over the past couple years, that that was part of the impetus for doing this too.
- 43:58SPEAKER_01: Like, I just I want everybody to meet people like you and just not even for like, I mean, we could sit here with curiosity and learn more about you, and it's exciting, but because then you start to think to yourself, what is what is it that really makes me tick?
- 44:16SPEAKER_01: And how do I get down into those deep layers and figure out, you know, how do I open myself up?
- 44:22SPEAKER_01: How do I uncover all of these layers and find who I am deep inside?
- 44:29SPEAKER_01: Come and see me.
- 44:31SPEAKER_01: Yes, please do.
- 44:33SPEAKER_01: Yes, as much as you made a gorgeous offer.
- 44:37SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, I'll tell you what, I'll do.
- 44:39SPEAKER_00: Um, I was I was actually thinking about this when you said this.
- 44:41SPEAKER_00: It just sort of came through.
- 44:43SPEAKER_00: Or we like to say that spirit gave me the message to tell you this, but I wasn't gonna say this, but now I'm feeling like, yeah, I should say this.
- 44:50SPEAKER_00: So I will I'll make you a second offer to everybody, to you and everybody that's listening.
- 44:56SPEAKER_00: I usually do uh shamanic coaching.
- 44:59SPEAKER_00: So again, it's an hour and a half, it's$225.
- 45:04SPEAKER_00: And it's about setting a goal.
- 45:06SPEAKER_00: Like I want to know, you know, I want to know how to connect with spirit.
- 45:12SPEAKER_00: I want to connect with my power animals, I want to connect with an ancestor who's passed away.
- 45:17SPEAKER_00: Um, I want to do um, I want to figure out how weight loss is why why am I not losing weight even though I'm doing all this stuff?
- 45:26SPEAKER_00: So those are my four, I do four workshops around the things, but these are the like the most common reasons why people come to see me.
- 45:34SPEAKER_00: So 225 for an hour and a half, but because I know three is actually my number, like I'm a nine because it's the trinity of three, six, nine, but um, I'll do three.
- 45:46SPEAKER_00: If you want to work on something, it always works better in a trinity, but I'll do three sessions for$500 for you and everybody that's listening, and we'll pick out a goal.
- 45:58SPEAKER_00: What do you want to do?
- 45:59SPEAKER_00: Do you want to connect with the spirit world?
- 46:02SPEAKER_00: Do you want to connect with ancestors?
- 46:04SPEAKER_00: Do you want to figure out what you know, like how spirit speaks to you?
- 46:08SPEAKER_00: Do you want to figure out a past life thing?
- 46:12SPEAKER_00: Like you, there's nothing in your lifetime that makes any sense, but you're afraid of falling down the stairs, even though that never happened to you, or you're afraid of getting burnt in a building, even though that never happened to you.
- 46:26SPEAKER_00: So we could do emotional release therapy, we can do ancestral healing, releasing emotions out of your body, and then seeing if it came from an ancestor and was carried forward in your DNA.
- 46:37SPEAKER_00: And that's a great way to heal the whole line.
- 46:41SPEAKER_00: We can do the usual like anatomy stuff, because my background's in medical massage, so we can also tackle everything as far as it's like, well, I have rods in my back and scoliosis and fibromyalgia and uh calcium deficiency and IBS.
- 46:58SPEAKER_00: It's like, oh, okay.
- 47:00SPEAKER_00: I have worked with all those things.
- 47:02SPEAKER_00: That's fine.
- 47:03SPEAKER_00: Bring it on.
- 47:04SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
- 47:04SPEAKER_01: That covers just about anything somebody would be troubled with at this point.
- 47:11SPEAKER_01: Um, and it's such a great time of year, you know, we're we're all spending all kinds of money on gifts for people, but how about something for yourself?
- 47:22SPEAKER_01: And really, you know, I have found the the time, energy, and money that I've invested in my spiritual growth has been so worth it for me.
- 47:33SPEAKER_01: And um, so these offers are amazing.
- 47:37SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna give you a final word, a final piece of advice for the listeners before we close out tonight.
- 47:44SPEAKER_01: What would you like to share?
- 47:47SPEAKER_00: I would like to share that wherever you are, someone has already been there.
- 47:52SPEAKER_00: And I've been through a lot.
- 47:55SPEAKER_00: And so if you want to, if anything that I said resonates with you, come and look me up.
- 48:01SPEAKER_00: I'm always available, and I want to tell you what I always say, which is I'm Atlantis Wolf and I believe in you.
- 48:09SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
- 48:10SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
- 48:13SPEAKER_01: You all have been enjoying the Mystic Nerd Squad podcast, Candid Conversations for the Curious.
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- 48:28SPEAKER_01: If you'd like to know more about me, head over to being wellwithkelly.com.
- 48:33SPEAKER_01: I wish you well.
- 48:35SPEAKER_01: Follow your curiosity.
- 48:37SPEAKER_01: You never know where it may lead you.
- 48:39SPEAKER_01: Have a good one, everyone.