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The Pilgrim's Progress by John Bunyan - Christian Has Another Companion · Reformed Thinking

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Welcome to the Deep Dive, part of the Reform Thinking podcast.
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Today we're stepping into a, well, a really vivid allegory,
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one that shaped understanding of faith for centuries.
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We're looking at John Bunyan's The Pilgrim's Progress.
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That's right. And we have a collection of
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notes and excerpts from a listener asking us to look
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closely at a very specific section of Christian's travels.
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Yeah, the sources provided, they pick up just after Christian has
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been through that really intense experience of Vanity Fair, you
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know, where his companion faithful gave his life bearing
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witness. Right, a huge loss.
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A huge loss. So there's a mission for this
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deep dive is really to unpack what happens next.
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Who joins Christian on the path? What new dangers crop up almost
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immediately, and how did they get through some really
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significant trials and find deliverance?
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OK, we'll try to pull out the core ideas, maybe some
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surprising points, and see how this part of the story speaks to
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us. Absolutely.
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So Christian is on the road alone again after Faithful's
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death. A severe test of faith followed
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by that loss. What happens right after he
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leaves Vanity Fair? Well, the narrative.
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It makes it clear Christian isn't left to travel alone for
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long. Almost immediately, actually,
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someone new appears and joins him.
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OK, the sources tell us this is a person named Hopeful.
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Hopeful, interesting name, especially after everything that
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just happened. It's suggests something new
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entering the picture. But how did that connection
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happen? I mean, after seeing Christian
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and faithful treated so brutally, even Faithful dying,
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what would make someone see that and think, yeah, that's the path
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for me? That's actually one of the first
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really striking points the text gives us, Bunyan writes.
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That hopeful was made so by the beholding of Christian and
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faithful in their words and behavior in their sufferings at
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the fair. Ah, so it wasn't just hearing
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about. It no, it was seeing it, seeing
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it lived out under that extreme pressure, their steadiness,
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their loyalty, even facing death.
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That was the instrument of his, well, his spiritual change.
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So you have Faithful's life ending with his powerful
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testimony. And almost right away that
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testimony becomes the seed for hopeful spiritual life and his
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decision to join the pilgrimage. It's a picture of how witnessing
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authentic faith, even maybe especially in suffering, can be
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incredibly impactful. So in a sense, faithful stand
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continues to bear fruit even after he's gone.
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A life given in faithfulness inspires another to start the
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path. That's quite a succession.
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It is, and the sources add that Hopeful actively joined himself
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to Christian. This wasn't just a chance
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meeting, it was a deliberate choice.
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He enters into a brotherly covenant in agreement to be
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companions on this hard Rd. He even mentions that Christian
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and Faithful's example resonated with others back in the fair,
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and some were thinking about following later.
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Really. Yeah, so it shows their faithful
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stand had this ripple effect bigger than just Hopeful
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himself. That's encouraging, finding a
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new companion like that right away.
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But as usually happens on this path, that moment of connection
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is quickly followed by new encounters, new challenges.
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Shortly after leaving the fair area, Christian and Hopeful meet
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some other people on the road. They do they they overtake a man
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named by ends, the text notes. He comes from a town called Fair
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Speech. Fair speech.
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And the source is quite deliberate in adding that fair
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speech is a wealthy place. Fair speech.
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The name sounds pleasant, maybe a bit too pleasant, and pairing
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it with Wealthy Place it starts to feel a bit convenient.
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Perhaps the sources get into Bayan's background and his
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family quite a bit. Don't they?
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Tells you a lot about where he's from.
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It really does, and Bayan's is quite open about it, almost
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proud. He says he has very many rich
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kindred there in fair speech, and he lists their names, which
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for anyone reading Bunion, are clear signals about their
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character. Oh yeah, like who?
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Well, there's my Lord Turnabout, My Lord Time Server, My Lord
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Fair Speech himself, Mr. Smooth Man, Mr. Facing Both Ways, Mr.
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Anything. Facing both ways?
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Anything. And even the local Parson, a Mr.
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2 tongues. Mr. 2 Tongues OK?
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Just hearing those names, you get a strong sense that
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principles and fair speech aren't exactly fixed.
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They're adaptable, flexible, depending on, you know, the
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situation. Yeah, those names leave very
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little doubt about their approach to truth or conviction.
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And Bayan's is also pretty blunt about how he made his living,
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isn't he? It's not your usual trade.
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No, not at all, he admits. His great grandfather was but a
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Waterman, looking one way and rowing another.
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The Waterman analogy. Exactly.
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And then he draws the Direct Line saying and I got most of my
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estate by the same occupation. So he's basically saying he
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pretends to go one way while actually maneuvering differently
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for his own benefit. Precisely, it suggests his
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wealth his whole life really is built on appearing to conform
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while secretly pursuing his own self-interest, likely financial
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or social gain. That is such a stark contrast to
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Christian and Hopeful who just saw faithful lose his life for
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not conforming. What does by and say his
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principles are? How does he justify living like
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this? Well, he claims he only differs
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from the stricter sort like Christian and Hopeful in two
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small ways. OK, what are they?
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First, he says he never strives against wind and tide, meaning
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he avoids any opposition, any difficulty, any unpopularity
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that might come from his beliefs.
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Steers clear of trouble. Completely Second, he says he is
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always most zealous when religion goes in his silver
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slippers. Silver slippers meaning when
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it's easy, popular. Yes, and profitable.
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His spiritual fervor is highest when faith is fashionable, costs
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nothing, or even better, bring some advantage.
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He loves to walk with religion publicly.
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You know, in the street if the sun shines and the people
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applaud him, right? And he considers these
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principles not just OK, but harmless and profitable.
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Harmless and profitable. That really sums it up, doesn't
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it? He sees faith as something that
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should serve him, not the other way around.
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Christian hears this and you can imagine it sets off alarm bells.
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Oh, immediately he sees this approach as totally incompatible
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with the true pilgrimage. So what does he say?
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He confronts him directly. Buy insurance.
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Look, if you want to walk with us, you have to be willing to go
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against wind and tide. You have to face opposition.
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You have to own religion in his rags as well as when in his
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silver slippers. Stand by it even when it's
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unpopular or costly. And you have to stand by him
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too, when bound in irons. Share in the suffering if it
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comes. He lays it out plainly.
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How does buy insurance react? Predictably, given his name and
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background, he refuses. He says I shall never desert my
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old principles since they are harmless and profitable.
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He insists on going his own way if he can't have his liberty to
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practice his flexible approach. Christian and Hopeful basically
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see him as a well, The text uses the word nave.
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A nave, Yeah, and they decide to keep their distance.
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But Bayan's doesn't travel alone for long either, does he?
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After they separate, someone else catches up and joins him.
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That's right, a little while later, Christian and Hopeful
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look back and see three other men following Bayan's and they
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quickly join up with him. And their names are probably
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just as revealing. Oh absolutely they are Mr. Hold
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the World, Mr. Money, Love and Mr. Sable.
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Part of the world, money, love, save all.
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Sounds like a committee meeting for self-interest.
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Are these guys similar to buy INS?
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Same kind of background. Yes, the text makes it very
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explicit these three were actually school fellows with buy
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INS back in the day. No kidding.
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Yeah, their schoolmaster was a Mr. Greitman in a market town
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called Love Game in the County of Coveting.
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Love game county of coveting OK. And their education wasn't in,
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you know, math or literature. It was specifically in the art
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of getting. The art of getting.
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Yes, either by violence, cozinage, flattery, lying, or by
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putting on a guise of religion. And the source notes they've
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become quite good at this art. So they were literally trained
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to use any means necessary, including faking faith to get
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ahead. That lines up perfectly with
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biens. It does.
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They're kindred spirits when Biens tells them about Christian
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and hopeful. He calls them rigid people who
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love so much their own notions and look down on others, judging
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everyone. And these new friends agree.
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Oh yeah, they readily agree, talking about people who are
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righteous over much. This clash of principles, the
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genuine versus the self-serving imitation, it leads to a direct
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challenge, right? A sort of debate.
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What question do buy insurance and his group propose for
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diversion, they say. Yeah, buy in suggests A
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hypothetical question. Suppose he says a minister or a
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tradesman gets a chance to significantly improve his
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worldly situation. Better job, richer spouse, more
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customers. But the catch is you can only
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get this advantage if he becomes extraordinary zealous in some
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points of religion, at least in appearance.
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The question is, is it OK? Is he still a right, honest man
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if he uses this show of zealousness just to get those
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worldly benefits? That question goes straight to
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the core. Is faith in in itself, or is it
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just a tool for getting what you want in this life?
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Who jumps in to answer this? Mr. Money Love is eager to take
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it on, he argues strongly. Yes, it's perfectly fine of.
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Course he does. For a minister, seeking A richer
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position by acting more zealous is lawful, he says, if
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Providence gives the opportunity, if it makes the
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minister seem better, and if complying with people's demands
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shows a kind of self denying temper.
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A really twisted view of self denial.
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Right. Denying your principles maybe?
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Pretty much. And for tradesmen becoming
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religious to mend his market, get a rich wife or more
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customers, Yeah, that's lawful too.
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Money, Love argues because, well, becoming religious is good
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in itself, the aims aren't technically unlawful, and
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getting good gain by appearing religious is a good and
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profitable design. A.
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Good and profitable design. And his answer, the sources say,
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gets highly applauded by Buy Insurance and the others.
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They call it most wholesome and advantageous.
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Wholesome and advantageous. Again, the focus is purely on
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worldly benefit. How does Christian react to this
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justification for using faith as a tool?
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He must find it offensive. Christian's reaction is swift
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and very strong. He calls the whole idea
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abominable, Just abominable to make of human religion.
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A stalking horse to get and enjoy the world.
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A stalking horse like a decoy. Exactly a cover for worldly
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motives. He states plainly that only
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heathens, hypocrites, devils, and witches could possibly hold
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such an opinion. He doesn't pull any punches
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there. What specific examples from
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Scripture does he use to back this up to condemn this kind of
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behavior? He brings out several really
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sharp examples. He mentions Haymore and Shechem
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from Genesis who agreed to circumcision.
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Religious right purely as a strategy to get Jacob's daughter
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and his property, using religion as a stalking horse.
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He points to the hypocritical Pharisees, famous for their long
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public prayers, which Christian notes were just a pretense, a
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cover for exploiting widows financially.
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Right devouring widows houses. Then there's Judas, seemingly
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religious for the bag, the money bag, and who ultimately sold
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religion and his master for the same valuing money over Christ
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himself. Yeah, and finally, he includes
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Simon Magus from Acts, who wanted the power of the Holy
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Spirit not for ministry, but to gain influence and money.
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Those are powerful examples, people using the outward forms
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of faith entirely for material gain.
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What's Christian's final warning?
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His take away about anyone who approaches faith this way.
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Christian delivers this really stark warning that cuts through
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it all. He asserts that anyone who takes
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up religion for the world will throw away religion for the
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world. Because their loyalty isn't
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really to the faith. Exactly, their loyalty is to the
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worldly benefits. If those disappear or if the
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world demands something else, they'll drop the faith
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instantly. He calls the whole argument they
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made Haven Ish hypocritical and devilish, and warns their final
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reward will be according to their works.
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And the text says Byans and his group were silenced.
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After that, they fell behind. Christian reflects on how they
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couldn't even stand up to the sentence of men here, wondering
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how they'll fare before the sentence of God.
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This encounter really draws a sharp line, doesn't it, between
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genuine faith and this self-serving imitation.
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It absolutely does. It establishes a critical
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distinction early on. So as Christian and hopeful move
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on from this, the narrative says they pass through a delicate
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plane called ease. A nice stretch for a change, but
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right after that pleasant part, they come to a little hill.
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It's called hill lucre. Like money game, very fitting
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name after just dealing with buy ends and money love.
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What's significant about this hill?
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What's there? On this hill, Bunion places a
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silver mine. Silver mine, Yes.
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The sources describe it as a kind of attraction, A rarity
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that pilgrims sometimes turn aside from the past to go see.
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But it comes with a very serious warning.
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The ground right near the edge of the mine pit is deceitful.
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Many who are lured by the prospect of easy silver.
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They turned aside the ground, gave way, and they fell in and
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were slain. Others who just got too close,
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were maimed and never fully recovered couldn't really
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continue their pilgrimage properly.
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So the attraction of quick wealth is right there, visible
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from the road, but it's presented as incredibly
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dangerous, both physically and, you have to assume, spiritually
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crippling. And who's standing there at this
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dangerous spot trying to lure people over?
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There's a figure described as gentlemanlike.
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His name is Demis and he's standing a little off the road
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near the mine, actively calling out to travellers.
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OK, Dimas, what's his pitch? What does he offer Christian and
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hopeful? He calls out Hope.
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Turn aside, hit her, and I will show you a thing.
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And he quickly clarifies what that thing is.
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Here's a silver mine and some digging in it for treasure.
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If you will come with a little pains, you may richly provide
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for yourselves. It's a little pains that sounds
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tempting, especially after the hard Rd.
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A shortcut to riches. How does hopeful react
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initially? Is he tempted?
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The text is very direct here. Hopefuls first reaction is let
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us go see. It shows just how real that pole
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is. The prospect of easy wealth.
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Even for Hopeful who just started this path and saw what
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happened with buy insurance, that desire to go see the
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potential gain is definitely there.
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That makes it feel very real. That temptation is
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understandable. How does Christian respond?
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Is he also drawn or is he more cautious?
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Christian's response is immediate and firm, not I.
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Just flat out no. Flat out no, he says.
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He's heard about this place, knows how many have been
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destroyed there. He states it plainly.
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Treasure is a snare to those that seek it, for it hindereth
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them in their pilgrimage. It hinders them.
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Yes, he calls out to Damas, challenging him, asking, Isn't
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this place dangerous? Hasn't it harmed many pilgrims?
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Damas, the text says, actually blushes at this.
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He knows. He seems to, but he tries to
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downplay it, saying it's not very dangerous except to those
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that are careless. Christian isn't buying it, he
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tells, hopeful. Let us not stir a step, but
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still keep on our way. He connects seeking this
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treasure directly to its negative effect on the real
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goal. It's a hindrance, a trap.
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And Christian immediately thinks of buy insurance here too,
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doesn't he? Links buy insurance principles
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to this temptation from Demas. Yes, he does.
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Christian predicts that when Bayen's and his crew come along
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and get the same invitation, they will definitely turn in
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thither to see. Because that's what they're all
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about. Exactly.
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Christian says his principles lead him that way and adds 100
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to one, but he dies there. It's a pretty grim prediction
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based entirely on understanding Bayen's core motivation.
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Does Dimas give up easily after Christian's sharp refusal?
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Does he try again? He persists.
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He calls out again. But will you not come over and
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see? Christian gives what the text
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calls a round answer, a very direct, blunt refusal.
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He calls Demas an enemy to the right ways of the Lord.
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Of this way. He says Demas himself has
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already been condemned by one of His Majesty's judges for turning
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aside from the path previously. Christian asks him, why are you
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trying to bring us into the same condemnation?
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And he warns Demas that if they turn aside our Lord, the King
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will certainly hear thereof, and will there put us to shame at
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the final judgment. Demas even tries to claim he's
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one of them. Doesn't he?
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Like I'm part of your group. He does, he claims to be one of
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their fraternity and offers to walk with them if they'll just
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wait a bit. Christian demands his name,
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confirms its steamus, and then just lays into his spiritual
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ancestry. What does he say?
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Christian calls Ghazi his great grandfather and Judas his
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father. Ouch.
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Ghazi and Judas. Yes, both figures notorious for
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using a connection to spiritual things for material gain.
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Christian says Demas has trod in their steps.
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He calls Dimas's tempting offer a devilish prank and reminds him
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that his father Judas was hanged for a traitor, implying Demas is
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heading for a similar end. Christian warns again.
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We're going to report your behavior to the king.
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That's a fierce condemnation linking him directly to biblical
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figures who chose gain over God and face terrible consequences.
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So what happens when Bayan's and his companions actually get to
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hill lucre? Does Christian's prediction hold
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true? Yes, it does.
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Tragically but predictably, Bayan's and his friends arrive
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soon after Christian and Hopeful leave, and the text says at the
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first back. The first invitation.
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The slightest invitation from Demos.
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They go right over to the silver mine.
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Bunion notes some uncertainty about exactly how they died
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there. Did they fall in, go down to dig
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and get killed, smothered by fumes?
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But the outcome is clear. They never were seen again in
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the way. Their pursuit of lucre, the very
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thing they argued for. It was literally the end of
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their Rd. It was the end of their
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pilgrimage. Christian then offers a little
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song to summarize this. What does it say?
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He sings Buy ends and silver Demas both agree.
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One calls, the other runs, that he may be a sharer in his lucre.
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So these do take up in this world and no further go.
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Take up in this world and no further go.
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That really sums up the danger, doesn't it?
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Prioritizing worldly gain isn't just a detour, it's a dead end
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for the spiritual life. It's presented as absolutely
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final. So after avoiding that snare and
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seeing the fate of buy insurance, Christian and Hopeful
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continue on, and soon after leaving the plain of Ease and
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hill Lucre behind, they encounter another site right by
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the highway, an old monument an. Old monument?
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What did it look like? Must have been noticeable.
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It was quite striking. Apparently it looked like a
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woman who had been transformed into the shape of a pillar.
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The sources say it's strangeness made them stop and look, but at
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first they couldn't figure out what it was supposed to
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represent. How did they finally figure it
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out? What was this pillar woman?
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Well, Hopeful noticed some writing on it in an unusual
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script, but he couldn't read it himself, so he called Christian
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over, who was more learned. Christian was able to make out
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the words. And what did it say?
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It said remember Lot's wife? The pillar of salt.
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Exactly. They then understood this
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monument was the pillar of salt from the Genesis story, what
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Lot's wife became. And why was she turned into salt
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again? What was her specific sin there?
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The sin highlighted here was her looking back with a covetous
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heart when she was going from Sodom for safety.
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The key is not just looking back, but looking back with a
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covetous heart, a longing for the worldly things, the life she
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was supposed to be leaving behind for good.
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She didn't step off the path, but her heart wasn't fully
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committed to leaving Sodom behind.
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And Christian sees this monument as being placed here very
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deliberately, right at this point in their travels.
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Yes, he calls it a seasonable sight, meaning it showed up at
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just the right time, perfectly relevant to what they just
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experienced, he points out. It came opportunely after the
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invitation which Dimas gave us to come over to view the hill
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lucre. He reflects that if they had
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gone over as Hopeful was initially tempted to do, they
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might have ended up like this pillar themselves, a spectacle,
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a warning sign for others about the fatal results of looking
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back with desire towards the world's temptations.
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How does Hopeful react to this? Seeing the stark visual sermon
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right after his own moment of temptation must have hit home.
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Hopeful reacts with real humility and thankfulness.
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He says he's sorry that I was so foolish for even wanting to go
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see the mine. He expresses amazement that he
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wasn't judged like Lot's wife, saying he's made to wonder that
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I'm not now as Lot's wife. He sees the parallel.
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He does. He asked that really insightful
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question. Wearing was the difference
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between her sin and mine. She only looked back and I had a
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desire to go see. He recognizes his inner desire
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was akin to her outward act, and he credits Grace Squad's
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unmerited favor for keeping him from acting on it.
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He feels genuine shame that the desire was even there.
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Christian takes a lesson of Lot's wife even further, though
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he draws out more implications from her example.
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He does. Christian notes she escaped 1
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judgement Sodom's destruction, only to be caught by another
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being turned into salt. This shows that escaping one
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danger doesn't mean you're safe if the root issue in the heart
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isn't dealt with. He presents her as both a
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caution and an example, A caution to actively avoid her
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sin, that covetous looking back, and an example of the judgement
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waiting for those who ignore such warnings.
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He then points out the sheer audacity of Demas and his
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followers seeking treasure right beside this monument.
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He argues it shows their hearts are grown, desperate, just
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hardened. Like they're completely blind to
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the warning right in front of them.
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Exactly. He compares them to someone
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picking pockets right in front of the judge or stealing under
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the gallows. It's sitting brazenly,
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shamelessly, right in the face of obvious divine judgement.
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He links it back to the men of Sodom sitting before the Lord,
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openly provoking God, suggesting those who sin despite clear
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warnings face the severest judgements.
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So this monument, this pillar of salt, stands as a silent but
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powerful sermon right on the highway.
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It warns against covetousness, against looking back towards the
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world, and against ignoring God's clear warnings.
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It reinforces the need for focus on the path ahead.
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It really does, and Hopeful adds a concluding thought, expressing
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deep gratitude that they weren't made into such an example
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themselves. He attributes it to God's mercy,
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prompting them to thank God, to fear before him, and always to
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remember Lot's wife. Now, after these quite heavy
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encounters by ends Demas Lot's wife, the narrative shifts.
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The pilgrims arrive at a place of, well, real refreshment.
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They come to a pleasant river. A break.
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Does the text give this river any special significance?
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Any particular names? Yes, Bunion draws directly from
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Scripture here. He mentions that David in the
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Psalms called it the River of God and John in Revelation
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called it the River of the Water of Life.
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OK, so definitely not just any river, it symbolizes something
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much deeper. Right divine provision,
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Spiritual life, Refreshing grace.
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What's this place like? What do you Christian and
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hopeful experience there? Well, their path actually runs
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right along the riverbank for a while, so they walked beside it
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with great delight. They drink the water, which is
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described as pleasant and enlivening to their weary
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spirits. Sounds wonderful.
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On the banks there are green trees bearing all manner of
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fruit, suggesting good sustenance.
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The leaves of these trees are specifically mentioned as being
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good for medicine, preventing surfeits and other diseases,
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implying spiritual healing and restoration.
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Fruit and medicine. And beside the river, there's
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also a Meadow, curiously beautified with lilies, which
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stays green all year round, representing beauty, freshness
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and during spiritual life. And crucially, after all their
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recent trials, they find rest here.
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Yes, this place is presented as a safe haven.
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They actually lay down and slept in this Meadow.
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The text explicitly says they might lie down safely there.
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That's significant. It is.
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They stay for several days and nights, waking up to gather the
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fruit and leaves, drink from the river and then sleep again.
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It's clearly a period of God-given respite, nourishment
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and security. Christian sings about this place
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too, doesn't he, capturing that sense of peace.
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He does, he sings, Behold thee how these crystal streams do
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glide to comfort pilgrims by the highway side.
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The meadows green besides their fragrance, smell, yield dainties
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for them, and he that can tell what pleasant fruit yay leaves
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these trees do yield will soon sell all that he may buy this
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field. Sell all that he may buy this
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field. It highlights the immense value
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of this spiritual refreshment. Absolutely.
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The comfort, the provisions, dainties, the sheer worth of
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this divine sustenance. It's presented as something
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worth sacrificing everything else for.
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This section really stands out. Then a time of peace, renewal,
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gaining strength from God's provision, before inevitably the
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path gets hard again. It's a necessary refueling stas,
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you could say, but as you noted, the nature of the pilgrimage
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means the kind of ease doesn't last forever.
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After this time of rest, the river and the path parted ways
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for a time, and almost immediately the path ahead
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becomes rough. Back to difficulty.
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How did Christian and Hopeful react to the road getting tough
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again, especially right after that pleasant, restful period by
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the river? Their reaction is described as
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very human, very relatable. The sources say their feet were
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tender from their travels, maybe softened by the easy walking
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along the riverbank, and their souls were much discouraged
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because of the way. Discouraged.
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Yes, they found the difficulty disheartening, and the text
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clearly states they wished for better way.
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They longed for an easier route. And it's this desire for an
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easier way for comfort over the appointed difficult path that
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gets them into trouble next. Precisely.
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Bunion connects the dots very clearly.
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Just a little way ahead of them, on the left side of the main
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road, they saw a Meadow. It was called by path Meadow and
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there was a style steps over the fence leading into it.
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By path Meadow, the name itself sounds like a deviation.
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It does. Christian notices a path running
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along by the wayside on the other side of the fence inside
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the Meadow. He's the one who suggests they
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go over the style. He says it's according to my
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wish. It looks like the easier path he
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was just longing for, and emphasizes that it has the
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easiest going. But Hopeful hesitates here,
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doesn't he? He's not immediately convinced
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this is a good idea. He does show some caution.
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Hopeful asks that critical question.
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Maybe you're remembering Demas or Lot's wife.
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But how if this path should lead us out of the way?
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Good question, shows some discernment.
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It does a healthy suspicion about easy looking shortcuts
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that leave the main Rd. But Christian, perhaps, still
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feeling that weariness, still wishing for ease, he persuades,
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hopeful, to ignore that caution. Yes, Christian dismisses
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hopefuls concern. He says that is not like meeting
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it's unlikely to lead them astray.
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He points out that it seems to run parallel to the main road
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anyway. So Hopeful, despite his
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reservation, being persuaded by his fellow follows Christian
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over the style. It highlights how easily the
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desire for ease may be combined with trusting a companion can
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override better judgement. It does and once they're on this
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bi path, Meadow path, initially it seems great.
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Oh, it's easy at first. Yes, they find it very easy for
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their feet. This immediate comfort seems to
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confirm Christian's choice. And then they see someone else
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walking ahead of them on the same easy path.
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They call out to him. His name is vain confidence.
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Vain Confidence, another one of Bunion's revealing names.
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Where does Vain Confidence claim this easy path leads?
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They ask him where he's going, and vain confidence confidently
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calls back that this path leads to the Celestial Gate.
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So, he assures them they're still heading the right way,
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just on an easier track. And Christian takes this as
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proof. Yes, Christian's misplaced
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confidence is completely solidified now.
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He turns to hopeful and says, basically, see, didn't I tell
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you this proves we're right, and they follow vain confidence.
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It's a classic setup, isn't it? Desire for ease, ignoring
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warnings, trusting the wrong guide, leading to a false sense
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of security on a deceptive path. Absolutely, and that security is
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very short lived. What happens is night starts to
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fall while they're following vain confidence in Bypath
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Meadow. Things go wrong.
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Drastically wrong night comes on and it gets very dark.
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Because of the darkness, they lose sight of vain confidence up
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ahead and vain confidence himself.
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Unable to see where he's going because he's relying on his own
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flawed assumption, not the true way, suddenly fell into a deep
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pit. Oh no.
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And Bunion is specific about this pit.
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It was on purpose. They're made by the Prince of
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those grounds. Meaning Satan to catch
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Vainglory's fools with all. And Vaing confidence was dashed
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in pieces with his fall. They must have heard him fall.
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What happens to Christian and Hopeful in that moment?
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They realize their guide is gone and they're lost in the dark.
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They hear him fall, hear him groan, and they call out but get
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no answer. Hopeful's immediate question
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just captures their sudden terror and realization.
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Where are we now? Christian is silent for a
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moment, the text says, mistrusting that he had let him
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out of the way. The guilt hits him, yes, and
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then, just to make things worse, it starts to rain and Thunder
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and lighten in a very dreadful manner.
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A fierce storm breaks out and the water begins to rise
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rapidly. Rose of Maine flooding the
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Meadow and putting them in even greater danger.
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The realization that they made a terrible mistake must be
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overwhelming. It is hopeful groans aloud.
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Oh, that I'd kept on my way. Pure regret.
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Christian meanwhile, expresses his shock and self reproach.
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Who could have thought that this path should have led us out of
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the way? Hopeful then gently reminds
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Christian about his earlier caution.
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Right. Not accusingly, but just stating
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it. Yes, Hopeful says.
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You know, I was afraid on it at the very first and therefore
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gave you that gentle caution, he adds.
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He didn't speak more forcefully only because Christian was
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older, showing respect even now when his own caution was right.
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How does Christian respond to that?
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Does he accept responsibility? He does.
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He responds with humility, calls hopeful good brother, asks him
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not to be offended, and explicitly apologizes for
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leading him off the path and into this imminent danger.
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He says he didn't do it with evil intent, but acknowledges
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the terrible outcome. And hopefuls response is quite
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gracious. Isn't it even seeing potential
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good in this mess? It's a really significant moment
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between them, Hopeful says. Be comforted, my brother, for I
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forgive thee and believe too that this shall be for our good.
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Even in the middle of this terrifying storm and being lost,
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he offers forgiveness and expresses A belief that God
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might somehow use even this mistake for their benefit
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eventually. That's remarkable.
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After this moment, do they try to get back to the main road
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right away through the storm and flood?
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Yes, they decide they have to try to go back again.
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They even briefly discuss who should go first.
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Christian wants to, since he left Mistry, but hopeful
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suggests Christian's mind is too troubled and offers to lead.
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They hear a voice, implied to be divine guidance, saying, set
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thine heart toward the highway. Turn again.
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But is it easy to get back? Not at all.
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The floodwaters from the storm have risen greatly, making the
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return very dangerous, and the sources add that oignant
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observation. It is easier going out of the
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way when we are in than going in when we were out.
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True enough. They are in extreme danger
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trying to get back, nearly drowning.
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The text says 9 or 10 times. So despite trying desperately,
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were they actually able to reach the style in the highway that
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night? No, they couldn't make it.
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Despite their efforts in the peril, they couldn't find their
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way back in the darkness, in the flood.
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They eventually find a little shelter, maybe a slightly raised
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bit of ground, and sit down to wait for daylight.
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But they are completely exhausted from the ordeal, the
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fear, the struggle in the water, and they fell asleep.
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And the narrative is very specific, crucially specific
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about where they fell asleep. Bunyan writes that not far from
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the place where they lay, there's a castle.
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This castle was called Doubting Castle.
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The unaware of was Giant Despair, and it was in his
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ground. They now were sleeping.
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Oh dear. So taking the easy path, getting
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lost, becoming discouraged, and falling asleep in that state LED
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them right onto the property, into the clutches of Giant
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Despair. What happens when the giant
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finds them there? Early the next morning, this
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will be Wednesday morning, Giant Despair is out walking in his
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fields and discovers them asleep.
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With a grim and surly voice, he wakes them up, demanding to know
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who they are and why they're sleeping on his land.
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What do they say? They explained their pilgrims
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who lost their way, but the giant accuses them of
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trespassing, trampling in and lying on my grounds and declares
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they have to come with him. The sources say they were forced
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to go because he was stronger than they, and they don't argue
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much because, as the text puts it, they knew themselves in a
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fault for leaving the proper path and ending up there.
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Where does the giant take them? What is Doubting Castle like
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inside? He drives them into his castle
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and throws them into a very dark dungeon.
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It's described as nasty and stinking to the spirits of these
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two men. Awful conditions.
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Terrible. They're deliberately deprived of
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everything. One bit of bread or drop of
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drink or light and no one comes to check on them, them to ask
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how they are. They're completely isolated,
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suffering in an evil case, far from any friends or help.
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And Christian, because he was the one who suggested leaving
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the path, he must feel this imprisonment even more
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intensely. Yes, the text says.
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Christian carries a double sorrow.
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He's suffering the physical misery, but his anguish is
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amplified by the crushing guilt that it was through his
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unadvised counsel that they were brought into this distress.
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Giant Despair isn't operating alone in this castle of cruelty,
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is he? He has a wife.
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That's right, his wife's name is Diffidence.
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Diffidence like lack of confidence, mistrust, fitting
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name. Very fitting.
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The giant tells Diffidence about his prisoners and asks her
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advice on what to do with them. She asks who they are, where
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they're going, and he tells her their pilgrims heading for the
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celestial country. What counsel does diffidence
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give the giant? How should he treat these
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pilgrims? Diffidence's advice is simple
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and brutal. Beat them without any mercy the
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next morning. Just beat them.
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Without mercy. So the next day, Thursday
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morning, Giant Despair gets himself a grievous Crabtree
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cudgel. A heavy knotted club goes down
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to the dungeon, and first he just falls to rating of them as
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if they were dogs, verbally abusing them fiercely.
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And then he beats them fearfully, mercilessly.
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The beating is so bad it leaves them physically broken, unable
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even to move or turn over in the dungeon.
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They spend that entire day, Thursday in agony, filled with
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size and bitter lamentations. That night.
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Thursday night, Dividends finds out they're still alive down
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there, despite the savage beating.
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So she gives Giant Despair more advice, suggesting a different
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approach. Her counsel this time is to
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counsel them to make away themselves.
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She tells him to suggest suicide.
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Yes, to tell them to kill themselves.
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So, following his wife's grim advice, what does the giant do
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on Friday morning? On Friday morning, Giant Despair
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goes down to the dungeon. He finds Christian and Hopeful
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very sore from yesterday's beating and incredibly weak from
34:56
hunger and thirst. He tells them flat out there
34:59
never like to come out of that place, trying to convince them
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the situation is utterly hopeless.
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Crushing their hope. Exactly.
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And he presents suicide as their only option.
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Their only way, he says, is to forthwith to make an end of
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yourselves, either with knife, halter or poison.
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He tries to persuade them by asking why they choose life,
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seeing it is attended with so much bitterness.
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How do they respond? They just ask him to let them go
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and said this infuriates Giant Despair.
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He lunges at them, planning to kill them himself with his
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cudgel, but right then the text says he fell into one of his
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fits. One of his fits.
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Yes, these fits are mentioned to happen in sunshiny weather.
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It's often interpreted as moments where God's grace is
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intervening, making the giant powerless.
35:44
He suddenly loses the use of his hand and physically cannot harm
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them. Frustrated, he leaves them to
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think about his council of suicide.
35:51
This terrible suggestion from the giant pushes them to the
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absolute brink and leads to a desperate, crucial discussion
35:57
between Christian and Hopeful in the dungeon.
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What does Christian say in his state of deep despair?
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Christian, just overwhelmed by the pain, the hopelessness, the
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giant's words. He seems to buckle under the
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despair. He says their life is miserable.
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He doesn't know if it's better to live like this or just die
36:15
out of hand. He even quotes with the Book of
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Job. My soul chooseth, strangling
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rather than life, expressing A wish for death over their
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current suffering. He says the grave seems better.
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Yes, the grave is more easy for me than this dungeon.
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And in the depths of this despondency, he actually asks,
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hopeful, shall we be ruled by the giant?
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He raises the awful possibility of following Despair's advice to
36:39
end their own lives. That question shows just how low
36:42
he sunk, how much the giants despair has infected him.
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How does Hopeful, whose name is the very opposite of despair,
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respond to Christians words to his considering suicide?
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Hopefuls response is incredibly firm, clear and grounded in
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their faith and purpose, he acknowledges.
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Yes, their condition is dreadful and death might, it seemed
36:59
welcome, but he absolutely rejects.
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Suicide on what grounds? He reminds Christian directly of
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God's commandment. The Lord of the country to which
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we are going has said, Thou shalt do no murder, no, not to
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another man's person. Much more than are we forbidden
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to take his counsel to kill ourselves.
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It applies even more to yourself.
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Exactly. He points out the dire spiritual
37:21
consequence. Killing someone else only kills
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their body, but killing yourself kills body and soul at once.
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It leads to eternal ruin because as scripture says, no murderer
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have eternal life. Following the Giants advice
37:36
would mean escaping temporary suffering only to face eternal
37:39
damnation. Hopeful doesn't just argue
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against suicide though. He also tries to lift Christians
37:44
eyes beyond the dungeon walls, offering reasons for hope,
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pointing to potential deliverance.
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Yes, he actively counters the Giants lie that they'll never
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come out hopeful. Reminds Christian that all the
37:54
law is not in the hand of Giant Despair.
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The giant is strong, yes, but he's not ultimately in charge.
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He points out that others have been caught by the giant before,
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but have managed to escape. He suggests ways God might still
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rescue them. Who knows but that God that made
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the world may cause that Giant Despair may die.
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Or maybe the giant might forget to lock us in.
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Or perhaps he'll have another of his fits before us and may lose
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the use of his limbs. Brainstorming possibilities.
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For God's intervention he is, and he says, if any.
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Such opportunity arises. He's resolved to pluck up the
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heart of a man and to try my utmost to get from under his
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hand. He regrets not trying harder to
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escape earlier, But he urges Christian to have patience,
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trusting a happy release might still come from God.
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He finishes that powerful plea with a simple statement.
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But let us not be our own murderers.
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And, the sources say, hopeful's. Words, his steady rejection of
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suicide and his pointing towards possible hope.
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They actually help Christian. They do, the text says.
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Hopeful's arguments. Did moderate the mind of his
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brother. They remain in that awful
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dungeon for the rest of Friday. But Christian's mind is pulled
39:02
back from the edge of despair and the thought of self
39:04
destruction. But Giant Despair comes back.
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Later that evening, doesn't he to see if they followed his
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deadly advice. Yes, he returns and finds them
39:11
still. Alive, though barely, the text
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says. Truly alive was all given no
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food, water and the beating. He flies into a grievous rage
39:20
that they disobeyed him. He threatens them, saying since
39:23
they ignored his counsel, it will now be worse with them than
39:27
if they had never been born. Oh no.
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And Christian. Facing this renewed threat after
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that day of suffering and deliberation, he falters again,
39:34
the sources say. He trembles, even swoons.
39:37
He seems to slide back towards despair.
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This triggers hopeful second crucial.
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Appeal Seeing Christian weaken again under the Giants threats,
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hopeful reminds him forcefully of his past courage and strength
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in facing huge trials. Before he brings up Christian's
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fight with Apollyon in the Valley of Humiliation, he
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reminds him how he got through the terrifying darkness and
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dangers of the Valley of the Shadow of Death.
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What hardship, terror and amazement has thou already gone
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through? He reminds him how he played as
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the man at Vanity Fair, standing firm against ridicule,
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imprisonment and even the threat of a bloody death.
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He's reminding him of his own history of.
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Perseverance. Exactly.
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Hopeful contrast. That past bravery with
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Christians current state where despairs words are crushing him.
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He points out that he hopeful, considers himself naturally
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weaker, but is enduring the same dungeon alongside Christian.
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He urges Christian to draw on that past resilience, to
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exercise a little more patience and bear up with patience to
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avoid the deep shame that becomes not a Christian to be
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found in the shame of giving in to despair after coming so far.
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That's really powerful encouragement, reminding.
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Him of his identity as a Pilgrim who has overcome huge obstacles
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even when he feels weak now. OK, So what happens on Saturday?
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What does the Giant do? Based on Diffidence's advice
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from Friday night, Diffidence still determined to break them.
40:57
Had advised the giant to show them the bones and skulls of all
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the other pilgrims he'd killed. The idea was to terrify them
41:04
into believing they'd meet the same end soon.
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Horrible. So on Saturday morning, Giant
41:09
Despair drags them out to the castle yard and forces them to
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look at this gruesome pile of remains.
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He tells them these were pilgrims like you who trespassed
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here and threatens I will in a short time tear you in pieces.
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Then he beats them again and throws them back into the
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dungeon. They spend all of Saturday in
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this lamentable case, beaten, starved, and facing this
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horrifying threat. Saturday night must have been
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their lowest. Point.
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What did the Giant and Diffidence talk about that
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night? They must be confused that the
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Pilgrims still haven't completely broken.
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They are confused giant. Despair wondered that he could
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neither by his blows nor his counsel bring them to an end.
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He can't understand why they haven't died or killed
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themselves. Diffidence offers her theory,
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her suspicion, which actually turns out to be key.
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What does she suspect? She says I.
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Fear. That they live in hope that some
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will come to relieve them, or that they have pick locks about
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them by the means of which they hope to escape pick locks she
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suspects they have. Some hidden means of escape,
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maybe because they still have hope.
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And this suspicion leads the giant to make a decision for the
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next morning. Yes, that suspicion makes.
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Giant Despair decide I will therefore search them in the
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morning. He plans to search them for
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hidden tools or keys first thing Sunday morning.
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This decision is crucial because it sets a deadline unknowingly
42:31
for their escape. While the giant and diffidence
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are. Plotting their search.
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What are Christian and hopeful doing down in the darkness of
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the dungeon on Saturday night after that terrible day?
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The text tells us exactly what they're doing.
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In this hour of deepest darkness and desperation, it says that on
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Saturday about midnight they begin to pray and continued in
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prayer till almost break of day. They turn to prayer after days
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of suffering, fear, debate, temptation and beatings.
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They spend the night in favor and prayer, crying out to the
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King. They serve for help.
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And it's right there, during that intense period of prayer,
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just before dawn on Sunday morning, that the turning point
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finally comes. What happens?
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What does Christians? Suddenly realize while they're
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praying as they're deep in prayer, Christian.
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Has this sudden, almost unbelievable realization.
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He's described as being as 1/2 amazed, like he can hardly
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process it himself. He cries out.
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What a fool am I thus to lie in a stinking dungeon when I may as
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well walk at liberty? What did he realize?
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He suddenly remembers. Something he's been carrying.
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All along he has a key, a key in his bosom named Promise.
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And he suddenly persuaded, convinced that this key will
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open any lock in Doubting Castle.
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The key of Promise after all that?
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Despair, he remembers. He has the key made of God's
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promises. How does Hopeful react to this
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astonishing news? Hopeful's reaction is pure joy
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and. Immediate encouragement.
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He calls it good news, good brother, and urges Christian
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eagerly pluck it out of thy bosom, and try his own hope
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which helps sustain. Christian now sees the tangible
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means of deliverance. So what happens when?
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Christian uses this key promise. Does it actually work on the
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locks of Giant Despairs Castle? Yes it does.
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It's quite dramatic. Christian first tries the key on
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the lock of their dungeon door. The bolt immediately gave back
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and the door flew open with ease.
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They step out of the horrible dungeon.
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Then Christian goes to the outward door that leads into the
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castle yard and tries the key there.
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It opens that door to. Finally they reach the main iron
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gate leading out of the castle grounds entirely.
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This one is described as going damnable hard suffer lock,
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suggesting the immense. Difficulty of.
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Truly escaping the Stronghold of Despair.
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But the Key of Promise works even here.
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It unlocks the massive iron gate.
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Does the noise of that heavy gate opening.
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Wake up the descent. Yes, the creaking of the gate as
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they. Push it open waked Giant
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Despair. He hears them escaping.
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He hastily rises to pursue his prisoners, intending to
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recapture them. But just as he gets up to chase
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them, he felt his limbs to fail his fit again, for his fits took
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him. Again, the same affliction.
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That strikes him in sunshiny weather, perhaps symbolizing
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divine intervention or the inherent weakness of despair
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when confronted by promise. It happens at the most critical
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moment, paralyzing him just as they're getting away.
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So with the giant unable to follow, they.
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Actually make it out they escaped out in castle.
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They do. They get out of the castle.
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Make their way back towards the highway, get over the style
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where they first went wrong, and are finally back on the King's
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Hwy. Bunyan explicitly notes they
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were now safe because they were out of his jurisdiction.
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The key of Promise, representing faith in God's faithfulness and
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His Word, unlocked the prison of despair and set them free.
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So, having escaped out in Castle and Giant Despair, and having
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made it safely back to the King's Hwy., Christian and
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Hopeful pause at the style, the place where they originally went
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astray. They decide they need to do
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something for pilgrims who might come after them.
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What do they decide to do there at that?
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Dangerous spot, they contrive with themselves.
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What they should do with that style to prevent those that
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should come after from falling into the hands of Giant Despair.
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They recognize the danger of that easy looking alternative
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path and the terrible consequences, and they feel a
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duty to warn others. So they agreed to erect their A
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pillar. A warning sign.
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What message? Do they put on this pillar for
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future travelers? They engrave upon the side
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thereof this. Sentence A very clear and direct
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warning over this style is the way to Doubting Castle, which is
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kept by Giant Despair, who despised at the King of the
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Celestial country, and cease to destroy his holy pilgrims.
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That's about as plain as you can get and their.
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Effort wasn't wasted, it actually helped others.
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Yes, the sources confirm its value.
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Says many. Therefore, that followed after
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read what was written and escaped the danger.
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Their own painful detour and imprisonment became a means of
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warning and preservation for others, helping them avoid the
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same trap. Christian and Hopeful also sing
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a song about. This whole harrowing experience,
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don't they? Summing up, the lessons they do,
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they sing out. Of the way we went, and then we
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found what twas to tread upon forbidden ground.
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And let them that come after have a care lest heedlessness
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mates them, as we to fare lest they for trespassing his
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prisoners are whose castles doubting, and whose names
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despair. It acknowledges mistake.
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Out of the way we went, warns others.
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Let them that come after have a care.
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Points to the cause heedlessness and names the dreadful
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consequence. Prisoners whose castle is
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doubting and whose name is despair.
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It captures the essence of the whole episode.
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This entire sequence from. Straying onto the easy path,
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falling into doubting passel, enduring that suffering and
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temptation and the final escape with the key of promise.
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It's such a powerful part of Christians.
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Pilgrimage really highlights the ongoing spiritual conflict.
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It really does. You see the constant?
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Presence of temptations, the lure of worldly gain with Byans
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and Demas, the deceptive appeal of ease.
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And by path Meadow you see the terrible consequences of strain
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falling into the grip of giant despair, representing that
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crushing weight of doubt and hopelessness that can paralyze
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us, even tempt us towards spiritual self destruction.
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But you also see the flip side. Absolutely.
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You see, God's. Provision like the river of
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life, you feel the critical value of a faithful companion
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like hopeful, you see the strength found in prayer,
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especially in the darkest hour, and you see the tangible reality
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of deliverance through holding on to God's promises symbolized
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by that key which can unlock even the deepest dungeon of
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despair. So as you think about this
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section of. Bunyan's allegory.
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Maybe you reflect on your own path.
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Where do you feel the pull of an easier way when the right Rd.
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seems rough? How might the temptation to use
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faith for worldly gain even subtly show up?
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And have you known times when discouragement or failure felt
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like being locked in Doubting Castle by Giant Despair?
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And consider that key of promise.
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Binyam presents it as able to open any lock in Doubting
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Castle. When you face times that feel
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overwhelming, filled with doubt or despair, think about the
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specific promises found in God's Word.
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Which ones come to mind for you right now that could serve as
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your key? How might focusing on and
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trusting those specific promises provide the way out when you
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feel trapped or hopeless? Thank you for joining us for
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this deep. Dive into the struggles and the
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deliverance found in this memorable section of the
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Pilgrim's Progress. We trust this.
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Look at Bunyan's. Text is giving you some valuable
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things to consider until next time.