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🏡 The Valley Mexico Recap: Janet Under Fire, Lala’s Pot-Stirring, and Kristen & Luke’s Postpartum Struggles · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Drama Darling Drama Darling Drama Darling. Hi, welcome back in
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  Speaker 1: It's drama Darling, and today is the Valley Day. The
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  Speaker 1: Valley is on a cast trip and joining me is
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  Speaker 1: Deanna Chang ready to just jump right in and fish
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  Speaker 1: with Luke. Did you bring your pole? Deanna?
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  Speaker 2: Oh lord, you know I did forget my pole. You know,
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  Speaker 2: so unfortunate.
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  Speaker 1: It's unlike you. It is really what it is. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you usually have your fishing kit all ready to go. Buddy.
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  Speaker 1: Before we welcome ourselves in, I have to say my
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  Speaker 1: parents have left, my brother and sister in law have left.
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  Speaker 1: We are back to a three person household. And is
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  Speaker 1: trying to get myself back together again, and it's a
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: nice feeling to gather things. Mattie's birthday was a huge success.
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: I think I've talked about that in previous episodes. But
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  Speaker 1: also I failed to mention that, you know, on Father's Day,
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: which was the twenty first, that usually lands around at
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: the time of our anniversary, and in fact it was
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  Speaker 1: mine and Brett's anniversary. And can you believe we've been
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  Speaker 1: married for thirteen years? Can you believe? I know, it's impressive,
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  Speaker 1: I know, and you know it's great. No, I'm just kidding.
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  Speaker 1: We have a good time. You know. People ask me,
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  Speaker 1: they ask me, what is the secret to thirteen years?
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  Speaker 1: And it's left. It's left that comes from the soul.
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  Speaker 1: I'm kidding, But truly, we do have a good time
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  Speaker 1: and we laugh all the time.
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  Speaker 3: So that's fun.
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  Speaker 1: It is fun. We haven't done anything because you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's just most of the time our universary is very
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  Speaker 1: much overshadowed by Mattie's birthday and my parents being in
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  Speaker 1: town and like all the holidays. So you know, maybe
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  Speaker 1: we'll kick the can down the road and maybe.
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  Speaker 3: I'll get that great phrase.
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  Speaker 1: I'llby bike over and bring me in. But tabes doayn
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  Speaker 1: to Mexico and just do what I want to day.
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  Speaker 1: Oh all right, Well, now that that's out there, let's
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  Speaker 1: welcome ourselves into a gorgeous California and Mexico recapylcome in.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's the most lilty sort of lea welcome in
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  Speaker 2: look in.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that just the way with boutiques and such?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Hi, yeah, yi first looks on this. I want to say,
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  Speaker 1: Schwartz is just a gentle soul and I really appreciate
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  Speaker 1: his presence just an acknowledgment across the board, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: I just felt like he really did do a solid
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  Speaker 1: after that big blow up, and Zach just really let
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  Speaker 1: the world have it with that little tantrum. And Tom
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  Speaker 1: went in there with Benji and he just said, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, Zach, take a breath. And I love that
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  Speaker 1: Tom said, I don't mean that in a disrespectful way,
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  Speaker 1: because that's what it does sound like typically when someone's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, just breathe, just you know what, take
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  Speaker 1: a second, Like if Janet were to say that not well,
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  Speaker 1: not well, bitch, not gonna go off well bitch, But
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  Speaker 1: like Tom said it so nicely and you're not going
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  Speaker 1: to take it the wrong way. But then he still
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  Speaker 1: follows it up with like, not to be disrespectful, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, take a second. And then
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  Speaker 1: he helped joke his way out of it with the
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  Speaker 1: Thrupple comment and in a group of and I just
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  Speaker 1: I just like Tom Schwartz on this show. I like
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  Speaker 1: his messy confessionals and and his romanticism, how he acknowledges
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: the cobblestone streets and how he misses his girlfriend. And
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  Speaker 1: that's the biggest takeaway for me.
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  Speaker 2: Right, well, I'm going to have this love letter to Schwartz,
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  Speaker 2: and I appreciate that's where things are kicking.
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  Speaker 1: It is a love letter.
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  Speaker 3: Sorts you love lot.
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  Speaker 2: I think that I have been hard on Schwartz back
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  Speaker 2: in vander Pumperwole's days, as.
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  Speaker 1: We all have, as we all should have. Let's not
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  Speaker 1: take back anything. We're not taken back.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm just I'm not taking back.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think him free of of the of
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  Speaker 2: the other Tom is so wonderful to just have him loose, relaxed.
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  Speaker 2: Not you don't feel like he's under a thumb.
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  Speaker 1: You don't feel like he's in a sidecar, right exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So, so I'm with you. I liked him and his doyly.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the poor guy couldn't get a cake for love, money,
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  Speaker 2: he couldn't get his birthday celebrated, no to save anything,
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  Speaker 2: so that and I appreciated that he was like, where's
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  Speaker 2: my cake?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's nice energy, good energy. I hope that this
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  Speaker 1: gal that he seems to be courting, you know, will
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  Speaker 1: turn out well. But I get worried about the age.
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  Speaker 1: The age difference is concerning. And then that's he should know,
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  Speaker 1: we all should know. It may not last.
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  Speaker 2: Who knows, whoever knows, No one ever knows. Amy you
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  Speaker 2: want someone to know, I do not. In the history
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  Speaker 2: of human being of humankind, does anyone known.
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  Speaker 1: Their destiny their destiny?
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  Speaker 3: They don't know?
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  Speaker 1: For love, Well, that group fight, which was teed off
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  Speaker 1: by La La, and at first like, I'd like to
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  Speaker 1: break this down because at first I thought, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I do appreciate this candor. I appreciate her getting into
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  Speaker 1: the weeds a little bit and really zeroing in on,
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  Speaker 1: hey did you like a post? And he and Danny
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  Speaker 1: being like, I don't know, voura under voor did if
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  Speaker 1: I liked it? And then really drilling down over and
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  Speaker 1: over again. She was able to get to the root,
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  Speaker 1: which is, yes, he liked the posts of very negative
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  Speaker 1: things that were posted about Janet and Jason, but I
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  Speaker 1: mean who didn't. And then but then she also drilled
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  Speaker 1: down on this cock, this specific one about the cock post,
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  Speaker 1: and he doesn't know what that is and didn't know
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  Speaker 1: what he was liking. You know, he might as well
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  Speaker 1: be any one of our parents on social media just liking,
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  Speaker 1: oh that's nice, and my name is mentioned I'll like this.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't know, he probably knew it was negative.
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  Speaker 1: But and I like the fact that Laala was yelling
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  Speaker 1: across the room and being like he didn't know about
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  Speaker 1: the cock. He liked the cock, but didn't know about
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  Speaker 1: what a cock was, which you know, then we're getting
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  Speaker 1: in the weeds. And that's when I started to think
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  Speaker 1: this was a bad idea for her to tea up,
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  Speaker 1: Like I actually didn't think that this was necessary. And
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  Speaker 1: then after Zach blew up and his big statement which
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  Speaker 1: is like this group has no resolution, which it's true
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  Speaker 1: because we cannot get any resolution.
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  Speaker 3: I had Yeah, okay, I mean yes.
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  Speaker 1: And then full circle the lunch when it came back
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  Speaker 1: up at the lunch with Janet and Nia at that
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  Speaker 1: table when they were out shopping. I was so disappointed
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  Speaker 1: that that came up again because they were sitting at
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  Speaker 1: a table and they could have just got they could
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  Speaker 1: have just had lunch and enjoyed themselves, and yet it
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  Speaker 1: came up fucking again. So I just think the takeaway
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  Speaker 1: for me is I don't really think it's necessary to
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  Speaker 1: Janet's not going to do anything different now, She's already
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  Speaker 1: said a million times over that she is not sorry
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  Speaker 1: for what she said. She's sorry that it hurt certain people,
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  Speaker 1: but she will not be taking it back. We've heard
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  Speaker 1: that in so many different ways. So why are we
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  Speaker 1: trying to lead a horse to water yet again, over
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  Speaker 1: and over again. The only thing that we can do
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  Speaker 1: now is to coexist and move forward until they have
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  Speaker 1: a laugh and they can organically get to a better place,
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  Speaker 1: and then maybe maybe everybody softens and then we get
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  Speaker 1: on a better foot. But we really are spinning our
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  Speaker 1: wheels here in Mexico, Tianna are what are your thoughts?
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  Speaker 1: Are your thoughts on this?
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  Speaker 3: I have a lot of thoughts.
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  Speaker 2: I do have a lot of thoughts on it in
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  Speaker 2: terms of just what's happening with this discussion. Yes, you
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  Speaker 2: know where we're going, what the layers are, because there's
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  Speaker 2: layers to it, and a lot's not being said and
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  Speaker 2: the people who were affected are not being included in
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  Speaker 2: the conversation, which I'm now having a.
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  Speaker 3: Big problem with.
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  Speaker 1: It's weird, right.
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  Speaker 2: It's very strange. We're also not saying sexual assault anymore.
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  Speaker 2: We're saying everything. But but that's the crux of the problem,
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  Speaker 2: is that wording. That's where the rubber is meeting the
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  Speaker 2: road right it is.
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  Speaker 3: So here's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: I actually had to go back and see what happened.
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  Speaker 2: Like I had to google and say, what did Danny do?
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  Speaker 1: What did Danny do?
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  Speaker 3: What did Danny do?
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  Speaker 1: What did Danny do? You were like, what happened.
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  Speaker 3: Melissa and Jasmine? What happened there?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 2: I had to just kind of like reorient myself because
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  Speaker 2: we've been in this discussion. We've been around this discussion
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  Speaker 2: for now the whole season. First of all, I want
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  Speaker 2: to start by saying I had a big lol when
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  Speaker 2: Jesse was like clocking Lallas pedigree, her reality show pedigree
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  Speaker 2: that she is waiting till everyone's had a full day
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  Speaker 2: in the sun, lots of drinks in them, and they're
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  Speaker 2: all gathered in one space and he's he's looking. He's going, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: I guess that's how you do it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's he's not wrong, And I actually I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't have like considered that, but him pointing out the
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  Speaker 1: time and the place was you're right. That was kind
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  Speaker 1: of amazing.
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  Speaker 3: He was like, huh, we got a vet on our hands.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Me sees me thinks to me, sees Land and a
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  Speaker 1: veteran of reality television.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's got a couple years under her belt, the only.
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  Speaker 1: One who's sober, you know, so she's got a lot
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  Speaker 1: going for her. I'll get them where they're most vulnerable. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: She was like, I'll sit back here and I'll wait
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  Speaker 2: till the more the right moment to strike and get
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  Speaker 2: a little This is, by the way, a television show,
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  Speaker 2: and I would like to, by the way, get another season.
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  Speaker 1: So let's do this, amen.
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  Speaker 2: You know, But I just I'm starting to get really
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  Speaker 2: thrown because I think what's happening is that we are
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  Speaker 2: diluting the actual thing that happened and the victims of
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  Speaker 2: what actually happened by constantly coming for Janet, who I
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  Speaker 2: don't think is instigating this.
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  Speaker 1: No, they keep That's what I'm saying. They keep bringing
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  Speaker 1: it up, and they keep looking for her to apologize
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  Speaker 1: and do something different, over and over and over again.
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  Speaker 1: It's like walking into a wall, and we.
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  Speaker 2: Have to then constantly go back to the actual definition
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  Speaker 2: of what happened. Now, you may think that's too harsh,
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  Speaker 2: and they're an argument for that, but the true a
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  Speaker 2: definition is a definition, and assault falls under grabbing someone's
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  Speaker 2: ass unprovoked and wanted falls under sexual assault.
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  Speaker 1: That is what it is, right, Yeah, it's also the.
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  Speaker 2: Other layer that's starting now because we keep talking around it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm starting to get creeped on my body. Creepy is
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  Speaker 2: that this is a gay woman and he chose to
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  Speaker 2: do that to a gay woman.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: There's another layer to that when it comes to power
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  Speaker 2: and choices.
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  Speaker 1: Right, it just is And Jasmine also said the exact
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  Speaker 1: same thing when she was talking about it way back
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  Speaker 1: when like was basically saying that on camera that he
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  Speaker 1: chose us to do that too, which is another layer
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  Speaker 1: of disrespect because you're going to feel more like an object.
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  Speaker 2: There's just a layer, especially when you're coming from this
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  Speaker 2: background that he seems to be coming from, which maybe
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  Speaker 2: has an arrow or view. I mean it's hard to say.
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  Speaker 2: I can't say that one hundred percent, but very possibly,
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  Speaker 2: Like he I don't know what his take is on
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  Speaker 2: how free everybody should be. I'm just not sure. So
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: that's coloring things for me. The whole thing is pissing
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  Speaker 2: me off for Jasmine and Melissa every episode, and I
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: think these two have put the issue to bed. I
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: actually don't feel that they are actively aggravated, but because
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  Speaker 2: we're not actually saying what happened. And because we're constantly
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  Speaker 2: slamming Janet, it diminishes their experience and what they went through,
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  Speaker 2: in my opinion.
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  Speaker 1: Because now the face of this experience is now that
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  Speaker 1: Janet is just a bitch, right, because now that's all
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  Speaker 1: that we're focused done is her and she's wrong, right,
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  Speaker 1: So you know, wrong, no, And I think we all
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  Speaker 1: agree with that. And not only that, but like as
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  Speaker 1: much as it hurts them to accept that, you continue
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  Speaker 1: to ask for that again and again, and she keeps
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  Speaker 1: delivering it to you in the same way she did
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  Speaker 1: the first time, which is you're welcome. Like this episode
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  Speaker 1: when Nia when they were in the bus or the
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  Speaker 1: shuttle and Nia was like, you did your apology didn't
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  Speaker 1: mean anything and this wouldn't have been a headline if
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  Speaker 1: it weren't for you, And Janet's like, you're welcome. You know,
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  Speaker 1: that wouldn't have happened again, Oh, she's I'm so annoyed
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  Speaker 1: with Janet in general. She annoys me.
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  Speaker 2: There's that I don't know, but like I'm actually feeling
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  Speaker 2: bad for her right now. I actually I am writing
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  Speaker 2: down like I'm with you, Janet, I'm with you, Janet
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  Speaker 2: multiple times this episode, because she is right. There is
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: something to being right, and I don't feel she's the agitator,
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: and so she's not.
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  Speaker 3: And they're starting to get pissed.
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  Speaker 1: You know, she's starting. I'm sure she's starting. She's starting, darling.
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  Speaker 3: Look let me put it all over here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the clown makeup. I I understand that Janet has
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: said the facts, and at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I do find her very unlikable and and
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  Speaker 1: but she's in a corner, you know. And then there's
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  Speaker 1: the other aspect where I'm like, well, what is she
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: going to do this? Nia is yelling at her about
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: the same thing. Janet already sat down with Nia and
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  Speaker 1: gave her the apology that she was capable of giving.
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  Speaker 1: And that's that. The fact that this even came up
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  Speaker 1: again is because of the night before when Lalla stirred
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  Speaker 1: it up again. I mean, she was kind of like
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  Speaker 1: a Tamra judge, but is a lot more sly about it,
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  Speaker 1: because we had Janet over in the corner, you know,
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  Speaker 1: popping off like on her own, saying a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the things that she's she's thinking and how she feels,
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  Speaker 1: because why why should she if someone is going to
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: open that can of worms, Well, guess what's going to
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  Speaker 1: pop out? Worms?
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  Speaker 3: Worms, And that's.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: What happens actually, when you open a can of worm,
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: So that.
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  Speaker 1: Is what happens. And I'm just wondering Lalla. To me,
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  Speaker 1: part of me thinks that she really does want resolution
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  Speaker 1: because she seems to me like very much like a
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  Speaker 1: therapy girl, Like she wants to like bring everybody together
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  Speaker 1: and find some resolution, and that there is some genuine
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  Speaker 1: feelings about like getting down to the heart of the
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: matter and like saying you're sorry for this, saying you're
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  Speaker 1: sorry for that. I really like Lalla for so many
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  Speaker 1: of the that she's made thus far on the valley,
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  Speaker 1: and I think she's got great, you know, opinions, But
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  Speaker 1: like this seemed very calculated to make a mess, just
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: a mess all over that beach, you know, just a mess.
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  Speaker 2: But what's happening though with Zach, Like so he's pitching
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  Speaker 2: a fit. He's screaming about no resolution.
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  Speaker 3: His thing, his big beef.
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  Speaker 2: That he has with Danny is that he cracked a
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: drink and lied to him about it. Meanwhile, Jasmine and
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Melissa are sitting over there again. They have put this
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  Speaker 2: to rest from whatever I can see, you know, but
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  Speaker 2: like Zach, but we're dancing around it, and the trouble
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: the frustration is that Janet is correct and you cannot
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  Speaker 2: cut it a different way.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's it's already been done. Yeah, so why finished?
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  Speaker 1: She's staying it.
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  Speaker 3: Up and up and up. She's actually I like her
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  Speaker 3: a lot.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: And by the way, I don't know if you got
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: to see watch What Happens Live. Okay, my sister June
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: was on it, my sister really Diane Raphael and she yes,
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  Speaker 2: and she killed it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Yah okay, so I was like, oh great, like I
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: get to see like and she we were just texting.
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  Speaker 2: She Saidnia's like was so nervous. She was trembling and
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: forehand do you know, because there's so much around her person.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I don't like this for Nia at all. This upset
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I don't either it of course.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: And actually I was like so happy my sister was
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: there because I thought, good God, Andy just like pounded
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: these questions about Danny from the like.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: From the jumb first five minutes, they're getting into it.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: You're like navigated it so well because like uncomfortable, you
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: know what I mean to figure out how to communicate
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  Speaker 2: and also not you know, but she said she was
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: the loveliest, nicest person, and she seems to love Santa
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Clarida and so But the thing I think Nia's doing
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  Speaker 2: wrong that she hasn't like thought through because she's so
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: emotional about it and because Danny's so emotional about it,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: is that this line of questioning that she continually wants
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: to go down in this conversation will never go in
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  Speaker 2: her direction.
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  Speaker 1: No, it never will. And I wonder if she even
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: went hard in that van because fucking Danny was complaining
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: about how she didn't have his back that night, right
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: the night before, and that's why she probably went hard
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  Speaker 1: that day, and it maybe wouldn't have gone that way.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: She's like, I'm trying to be calm. I'm trying. That's
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: not calmed. Four and four is not calm. For is
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: not calm. You're not being You're not doing your your
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: wifely duties. That guy is really disgusting to me, and
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I know why. Obviously, Nia is hammering so hard to
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: try to get what she needs because she is in
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: a desperate situation. Because the harder this is for Danny,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: the harder it is for her. It's also for her
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: marriage and her kids, and like, I mean, I completely
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: understand it. And that's why this whole situation is such
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: a disaster, because she.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Should really take a step back and really think through
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: like results, you know, like what.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Are you actually like? They feel so right.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: And I understand why they feel right absolutely. Argument you know,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: there's an argument that that is an out of line
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: characterization for Danny, but it's but it's not because it's
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: the truth. So like its where we can't we can't
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: change definition, and we can't change what happened.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: You can only change the present and what's going to
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: happen in the future. And it sounds to me like
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Danny and Nia are already doing that. Like Danny has
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: said he has PTSD from the situation, he's traumatized by it.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: This has been the hardest year of his life. And
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: that he immediately got into therapy. I think that's great.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's obviously taking responsibility in ways in which
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: that he can. He's not you know, he's not jacksing
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: it up and doing more of the same as far
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: as we know. He's just being an asshole to his wife.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: That's what we see. But we haven't heard of any
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: other instances. And so he's in therapy, she's in therapy.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: They're in couples therapy. Like this is why they're so
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: upset because it's like we're doing all the work, we're
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: going to church, we're trying to be good people. Can't
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: you just erase the past? No, we can't, So stop
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: bringing it up. So there's two There's a way to
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: deal with it, which is just let it go and
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: and that's that's it. That's the end of that chapter.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: And then moving forward, you can only speak on where
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: you are today. So the only thing that's going to
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: get them back on track, and they'll never be friends
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: but is time and just being together because they're forced
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: to be together in a group. That's why, like when
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: they went to that lunch, I was so bummed for
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: that blow up to happen when Janet left again, it's
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: because like it didn't need to happen. Everything was great.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: They were even acknowledging like, look at us, we're all
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: sitting at this table and we all have issues. Like
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Michelle and Jesse were there, and Nia and Janet were there,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: and it was like, wow, this is kind of wild.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: I can't believe they're actually going to break bread together.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: And then I don't know who ruined it by bringing
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: something up again. I actually wish I would have Jesse.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Maybe was it Jesse, I don't know. I remember, yeah,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: he was coming at Janet and when she turned to him,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: I was like, shut the fuck up.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: I was with her on that, like.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, Jesse did tee it off because he
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: was like, aside from hurting your husband, Nia, what did
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Janet do to you? So that's where he he brought
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: it all up again, and that just didn't that was unnecessary.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: And her answer was, well, because when we were at
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Britney's house or rental or whatever that was. Janet was like, well,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I was in a relationship with someone who had a
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: major drug and alcohol problem, and so I know how
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: you feel. That was just such a cringe thing to
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: say to somebody. Yeah, that's why I don't like. I
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: don't f's with Janet because I don't like the way
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: that she presents things.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: You're an HSP, and so you know when this say
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: the thing happens, you're very inensitive to it.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you so much. HSP. Was
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: that Schwartz that said that or was that Jesse? I
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: think it was.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: I think it was Jesse.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: It was a Jesse, okay, And then he was like
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: to Janny's like, well, if you really were sorry, you'd
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: be crying. I'm like, you're such a dick.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: God, It's so crazy. It just but like, has there
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: been I'm so curious. Has no one's throwing to Jasmine
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: and Melissa on this though?
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: The weirdest thing I think because really, at the end
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: of the day, Danny and Nia and Jasmine and Melissa
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: have like garded it, They've sorted it, and so it's
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: just lingering there with Janet. That's where it is. But
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: keep trying to fix it.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: So strange, you know, because I do genuinely think, and
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I think Jasmine's correct that Zach does not have their
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: back on this. I just don't think he gets it.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I don't think he sees it, and he does not
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: have their back. That's what's pissing her off and hurting
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: her right now. Yeah, you know, it's just uh, yeah,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: it's interesting.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Zach seems to Yeah, he was. He was kind of
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: all over the place in this episode. But I did
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: appreciate the emotion that came out and then the next day,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: like the follow up because the conversation that he had
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: with Danny, like they really did kind of sort it out.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: And I think Brittany was there right, She's like, I
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: don't care, I'll I'll drink with you any tab, but
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: just don't lie, Laddie, and Zack's like, yeah, just don't
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: lie about drinking a white claw in my in my
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: gym or in Britney's gym. But like what Danny said
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: that he had won that night, that's that is one
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: hundred percent of lie in my point, in my opinion,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Like there's no way he just had one drink that night.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: So he's still lying. Like I'm sorry, I just don't
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: believe him. I don't believe.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: The thing's to believe? What's to believe? Right now?
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: He's he's clearly lying in the face of all of us,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: and like the cameras are cant it every single time.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: It's comical, it is, and it's also hard to align
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: with him when you're a liar. You know, so you're
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: PTSD here this year, that the year other, you're like
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: just lying and you're just also lying. Yeah, that's tough.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: You're lying. When Kristen said at that lunch, and she's like,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, Danny doesn't even really have a drinking problem,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: you know who does? And then she just lifted off
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: the rest of the cast. And then the way that
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Janet jumped on that phone, I'm like, girl, you are gross.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Like to get that text over on the other side
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: of the hotel there, she gets you just send it
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: right over there, and she's like, you have to know
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: what's being said about you. They're all talking. I can't
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I can't wait. But this is Janet.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Don't you feel like Janet is personally?
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I do feel now she has And I think the
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: way Michelle has Janet's back and the way she I
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: just think the way she communicates is I like it
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: because she doesn't.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Emotional or Janet emotional.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: She just sort of waits until really it makes sense
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: to pipe in. And she has Janet's back and she
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: thinks she's thinking clearly, and I align with her, and
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: I'm like, thank you, Michelle.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I liked it. I agree. I like Michelle. I agree
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: with you. I think that her piping up and saying like, well,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: she's not crying because she holds it in. And then
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: the next thing, you know, Janet's crying, and I'm like,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: are we really crying?
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: I understand, I'm sorry, but I don't care for.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Her, but it's hard.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I feel she's against a wall right now, and I
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: do respect that she is not crumbling. Yeah, with this
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: pressure and standing in what is the truth, whether we
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: like it or not, whether we want it to be different, whether.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: You know, all of that, All of that I get,
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: I get, I get, But I.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Think if they came at her differently with the question,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: even we could get in a new place. We can't
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: get there with saying you need to apologize completely for
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: saying it.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: What would be another another way like that that NIA
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: could be satisfied because I don't see a way.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: I think, And I don't know if it's NIA, because
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: that's a tricky one, but like, okay everyone else you know,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: or NIA if NIA wish to say, like, hey, I
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: understand that what happened between Danny and Melissa falls under
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: the definition of sexual assault and many women have gone
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: through that and it happens in the workplace.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: It have and is never okay with that said.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: We are in a friend group, they have had the
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: discussion about it. Putting that label on him feels like
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: you've chosen like the worst case scenario for him, and like,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: is there a way to just roll that back a
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: little bit, especially since they've had the conversation, because labeling
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: him that way is so detrimental to us as a family,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: like something and acknowledgment and but like and like, can
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: we just no longer use that term again in our
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: friendship group?
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Is that? Is that? Is that possible?
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Well? And to your point, no one has used that
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: word again.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: But they're saying it without saying it yet.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Right, but they're not using it at all or not?
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: I feel like, why do you think has that been
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: like come down from production or is.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: That I think that they're purposely not doing it out
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: of respect for Nia? Really yeah, because even lalla is
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: like the word that was used on the boat or
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: wherever the hell they were. But like what would be
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: So if Janet were to roll it back, how would
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: that look?
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: What could she roll back?
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: She could say I understand and yes, I won't say
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: that any that that's a that was a one. I'm
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: not going to refer to him in that way anymore.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, but when you.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: She hasn't, But like we're you ain't gonna get Janet
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: to say because it's the truth, and I respect her
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: for that.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do too.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Not easy, especially with the world as it's hard, and
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: I know why she's crying because it's hard. Like I
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: am a Janet apologist, apparently on this day, on this.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Day, well someone should be. I mean, I'm not listen,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I support women, but I also am feeling extremely bad
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: for Nia, and that's probably why I'm going so hard
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: at Janet, because even though I am beyond frustrated with
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: her trying to squeeze orange juice out of a lemon,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I still feel awful for her because she's the one
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: who's taking all the hits, and she's the one who
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: has all these kids, and she's got a horrible husband.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Despite all the stuff that happened with Melissa and Jasmine.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: The way he treats her on a day to day
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: basis is like making the irate and so Janet's fault.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Oh no, that's but that's why I'm so empathetic towards
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Nia that it's overshadowing my ability to stand behind Janet.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: I think that's where I'm at. Do you know what
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? I get that, because I don't want to
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: cause her any more like mental anguish over the situation.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Like she's got four kids, she's on this reality show.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: She's an incredibly vulnerable position, and I really feel bad
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: for her, especially by way of the way that he
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: treats her, you know, the night before, being like, you
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: didn't have my back, You didn't have my back. She
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: can't do it feels like she can do nothing right
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: in his eye right.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Now, it's horrible.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: They would have done better really thinking, not getting emotional,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: really thinking it through and being like, you know what,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: let's put this to ResQue with Janet, because there's no.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Way that we know.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no amount of Luke, no amount of Kristen
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: please sit down, no amount of Jesse, good God, no
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: amount of Zach being a dumbass is going to get
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: us where we want to go.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: No, absolutely not and Laala, no one will get us
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: get them there. And so for them to not just
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: swallow it and move forward is absolutely insane. They're the
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: ones that they're trying to do the put the the
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: round circle in the square peg, you know, yes there,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: and so they're hurting themselves because it just keeps being
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: brought up because of them.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Correct agree like that is actually and it's it's you know,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: we figured we got to it, but that is really
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: they are in the wrong here, and they would do
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: to have a different approach because Janet doesn't want to
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: keep dealing with this that that much.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: I actually do feel.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, which is why she keeps leaving, right but because
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: there's nothing she can.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Say no because and that has to do with her
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: sense of truth, that's not enough. There's no other reason.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't see her leaving as someone
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: who's not willing to deal with it. When everyone gets
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: upset at her for leaving, I'm like, yeah, you know,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: she's there's a firing squad coming at her. What do
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: you expect her to do? She there's nothing that she
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: can say to change the outcome of what it is.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: So it's probably best that she leaves before she says
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: more to hurt the situation, because she can and she will.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: She's she's spilling over not you know, it's not best
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: for them.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Then you know, still over And it doesn't help that
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Danny made a complete fool of himself in was it
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Palm Springs. I don't know where they were at the
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: yeah I dragged the pageant. Yeah, you know he was.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: So he showed his true colors yet again, and that
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: like it to me, that's adding on to what happened
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: a couple summers ago. Course.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: So and so she's like she wants.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: To scratch that lotto ticket and see what she's gotten
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: under there.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Nia has chosen him as a husband so she can
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: keep him on as short a lease as she wants
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: to try and do. But like even like I'm just
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: thinking him, Zach laid out with his boobies out, and
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: like Danny was like ready to pounce on whatever.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: That like it's.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: You know, yeah, he's an odd duck.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: He is he is anyway. Well, okay, so why don't
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: we talk about Kristen and Luke. Okay, so you know,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: because we didn't talk last week in that episode, but
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: this episode they seemed so much better than they were
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: the last and it just goes to show like the
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: travel day, the events, the tiredness, the you know out
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: of like maybe a little bit of jet lag, just
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: the anxiety from traveling. It's best to just kind of
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: hunker down the first night and get your bearings before
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: talking about anything, because yeah, didn't do any good for anyone?
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: No, it was it was tough.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: I mean I did feel like I finally got eyes
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: on Kaya and god, is she the cutest thing?
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Like she's so cute.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: I'm like, this poor girl has been you know, talked
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: about so much, so like you know what I mean,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: there's been something folks so fraught everything has been around her.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: And then they did like look like it's so cute.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: So that was cute to just see her and they
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: were fresh and yay. I mean, I do feel for Luke.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: He's he's in the weeds.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Way do situation? I do you hm, especially when he like,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that towel wrap knotted thing was.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: I think my eyes averted from it. I didn't even
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: like take it in huh.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, it was when they were having a conversation
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: with and Kyo was being held by Preston and it
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: was like a sort of a flesh colored, very thin
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: towel that went over his shoulders and then and then
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: it was open there and he tied at the waist
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: like a little t shirt tie.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Do you think it from the hotel like a little
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: robe situation?
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But it didn't go a Mexican robe. It didn't
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: go all the way down. It was it was it
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: was just a shawl, really an open he ingested and
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: he had no shirt on. Okay, well, I just wanted
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: hard to jump in on that. No, it's thank you.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I like, might need to go back and look at
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: that because I think, please, do I have heard it?
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I must have, you know, protectible because Kaya was in
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: the scene and you were focused on her. But you
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: know you said that you feel for him. I do.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I feel for him. I feel for her. I mean,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: this postpartum anxiety is real as hell, and Kristen should
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: have never gone on this trip. She should not be there.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: She is like I know, and I just feel like
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: she was like, no, this is my job, I gotta go,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: and then the next thing, you know, it's just such
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: a disaster. I mean, it's miserable. The baby's miserable, she's miserable,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: and he no matter what he does, Honestly, I don't
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: think it would be necessarily the right thing. He really,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the only thing you
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: probably could have done is just not leave the room
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: at any time, you know, and like just I guess,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: but she kind of she's put a little bit of
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: a situation in which I don't think that she realizes
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: some of the things that she's saying and when she
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: said they are when she said in her confessional, I thought, oh,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: this is so perfect for like a couple's therapists to
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: dig into, because she's like, I just don't understand. I'm
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: just expressing my feelings and he's getting so offended by them.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, if your feelings have are making
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: someone feel like they're a horrible dad and you're nitpicking
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: and you're telling him, you know, some terrible things, and
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: what Zach's sorry Luke said last week, which was that
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: she never comes back and says I know that you're
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: a good dad.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: She doesn't.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: She doesn't go like when the new day, the sun
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: is shining, it's a new day. She's gotten some sleep,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: baby's happy as a little clam. She doesn't go.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: And he's like, oh, it's rough last night.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: You know, it seems like you needed that sleep and
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: class orange juice. And she doesn't go like, yeah, you're right,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: I did say some things that were out of pocket.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: She doesn't even say that, Like, she doesn't even go.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: She doesn't it's like she's like, well, I mean, you
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: do want to get out of here and party and
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: come back at all hours and it is who you are,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Like there's no softening, not really just the energy is
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: but not real words. And that's what I think he
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: needs a little bit of that does Who couldn't need it,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: And postpartum whatever it is, depression anxiety is super serious.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: And I don't know, like you know, behind closed doors,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: how he's handling this, but you know, at this point,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: I hope that they're getting the help that they need
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: at this time, like that we're watching because like she
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: if she's not able to, you know, regulate herself in
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: any way, which it seems like she isn't, because even
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: in those, like you said, softer moments, she's not able
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: to say, you know, things got a little weird last night.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: I'm feeling so much better today, sorry about what happened.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: And it seems like he's willing to say he's sorry
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: or willing to tin to do certain things with that.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: But you know, he was pissing me off in the
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: very very beginning when this all started, about like why
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: don't we have sex and all this stuff, and I'm like, Luke,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: you have got to calm down. And to that, I thought,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: he doesn't get it. So when we're moving into this area,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: there's always that part of me that's like, well, what
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: else are you not getting that's making her so upset
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: at you? So I have to go with clearly he
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: was off from the beginning, and so is he still
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: a little bit off or insensitive? Does he understand the
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: weight of what's going on? I don't know. I just
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: hope that in like real time, that they've kind of
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: figured all this out and she's feeling better because the
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: anxiety to be just it's just debilitating and she can't
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: be with anything else. And meanwhile, it's like, why should
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I apologize to you? I'm doing all this work right,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: you know, And there's that aspect of it, so right.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: She doesn't she's not, Yeah, that's it's not occurring to
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: her that that.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: Could even be helpful to her, which.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Would be helpful, it would be you know, Yeah.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: I mean the dynamic is tough, and I do think
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: it's it's crazy to be watching it, you know, it's
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: who but a lot of people, you know, I think
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: are benefiting from the reality of it.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: I just feel bad for her.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: I feel so bad for her that she's had to
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: be out there like this.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: It's just my heart, Like my heart and soul like weeps.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: When I see Kristin and the uh in Mexico on
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: this trip, I'm just like, you guys should not be here.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: I know Nia can handle things a lot better because
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: she's got you know, four kids. She's used to it,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: so she can kind of roll with it.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: She's just a very different person, you know, Like, yeah,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: I mean I there was I'm laughing because there was
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: an after show apparently.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: I watched the Valley after show.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: It's like the Valley after show.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Did you see Nia and Kristen were paired up and
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Nia was not saying a word literally, and she was
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: just letting Kristin do all the talking. But I'm just
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: sitting there thinking, like, you know, Nia's like, you know,
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: listening to what she's saying to Luke.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, she's just like, I see what
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: you're saying.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Well, I just know that she's going like, wow, it's
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: a lot. You know.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: She says that to her husband, right exactly. Yeah, it's
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: interesting the two extremes actually.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Totally totally and I get when Kristin has a NIA
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: in her life. She's the only she's actually, of everyone,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: the only one who I'm like, you can defend her
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: blindly and Danny blindly. And I say that because I
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: can only imagine what NIA looks like to her and
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: is such a beam of like hope, and just like
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: I want that.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: I want to be like that so badly. You know that.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: She's in infatuation and I get it.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: You know, she's got a mom crush on her, you know,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: because she's got it, you know, seemingly together.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: It is strange to me that Kristin isn't seeing what
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: everyone else is seeing from Danny though. That is weird.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Like I wonder if that will shift at some point
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: and then Kristin just pops the heck off on him.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Maybe, and maybe it would have to be something Nea
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: would say to her about it. You know, right now
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: she's she's protecting me. Yeah, and I get it, and
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I really do from her, I really do.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, golly, golly, golly. She how about when Zach was
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: freaking out and then in the other room, BRIT's like.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: A real jailsman.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: He said, Brittany, don't you dare say that you get
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: out here. If you want to say something to my face,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: you come out and say it. Wait what did she say?
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: I couldn't understand what I mean?
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Jasmine.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: What did Brittany say in there?
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Oh she said, I agree with Jasmine.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Oh that's so good. It was so good to have
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: poor thing is over there with her, you.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Know, training, still training, and yeah, that's all very tough.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, Zach is so triggered by Brittany. They're so funny,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: you know, this is just it's just so funny.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great. All right, Well we we can land
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: there and we can pick up at another time and place.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: And Deanna Chang just a delight to see you. And
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: I imagine the Montage Queen is just having a great
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: summer so far.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: She is, you know, she's bookings are still rolling in
• 46:33
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• 46:36
  Speaker 2: several darlings come through, high darlings. Great to have you,
• 46:41
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• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Do it, do it, do it?
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Do it?
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, well you guys, thank you so much for listening.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: And I hope you're having a great summer so far.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: We had the summer solstice, right, and I mean we're
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: here and it does finally feel like summer. Gorgeous California,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: doesn't it does?
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: It really does?
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So enjoy, you know, read a book, to read
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: a book. Lemonade freshly squeezed if you want, Yeah, crack
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: open a white cloth.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do it there in the gym