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- 0:07Speaker 1: An attempt to assassinate a policeman. A shootout in a hotel.
- 0:11Speaker 2: And a violent robbery at a bank. A gang of
- 0:22Speaker 2: dangerous criminals threatens a whole community. The FBI and an.
- 0:27Speaker 1: Undercover ex-police officer risk their lives to locate the gunman.
- 1:05Speaker 2: At the end of the 1990s, a criminal terrorized a
- 1:08Speaker 2: whole community. The witnesses refused to speak. They knew that
- 1:13Speaker 2: the consequences could be fatal.
- 1:15Speaker 1: I am Jim Calstrom, former head of the FBI office
- 1:18Speaker 1: in New York.
- 1:19Speaker 2: As the violence increased, the FBI worked with the local
- 1:23Speaker 2: police to launch a complex undercover operation. Its mission was
- 1:27Speaker 2: to get this fugitive from his hideout, with the promise
- 1:30Speaker 2: of a big hit, and get him out of the
- 1:33Speaker 2: streets forever. Amden, New Jersey, is located just on the
- 1:46Speaker 2: other side of the river from Philadelphia. It's one of
- 1:50Speaker 2: the poorest and most criminal cities in the United States.
- 1:52Speaker 1: On February 12, 1997, Agent Steven Leone patrols the street.
- 1:57Speaker 1: It's 4.20 a.m.
- 2:12Speaker 2: Agent Leone stops to get up with some papers.
- 2:22Speaker 3: I heard a lot of shots coming from the east
- 2:24Speaker 3: side of Camden.
- 2:26Speaker 1: Shots of more than 50 rounds.
- 2:32Speaker 2: Well, it's not unusual to hear shots in Camden, so
- 2:35Speaker 2: it's something common. Intenté localizar la zona general antes de
- 2:39Speaker 2: pedir ayuda para que no hubiera policías corriendo por todas partes.
- 2:45Speaker 1: El oficial Leone condujo hacia la zona de los disparos.
- 2:50Speaker 2: Las calles estaban desiertas hasta que apareció un auto sospechoso.
- 2:57Speaker 1: El oficial Leone se detuvo detrás del auto.
- 3:05Speaker 2: Then it seemed that the vehicle saw that I was
- 3:07Speaker 2: a patrol vehicle and turned left. I sat in the seat.
- 3:34Speaker 2: And then I got up and I could taste my
- 3:36Speaker 2: own blood. Officer Leone had received a shot in the face.
- 3:40Speaker 2: Somehow he managed to get out of his vehicle. I
- 3:44Speaker 2: got out of the car to take a tactical position
- 3:46Speaker 2: in the back of my vehicle in case my attackers
- 3:48Speaker 2: tried to return or if they were in the area.
- 3:50Speaker 2: I knew he was looking at me. I knew he
- 3:52Speaker 2: had a bullet in his face and in his head.
- 3:54Speaker 2: And I didn't know how bad he was hurt.
- 3:56Speaker 1: Call for Ravi.
- 3:58Speaker 2: Fallen people.
- 3:58Speaker 1: Wounded people.
- 4:01Speaker 2: Agent needs immediate help.
- 4:02Speaker 1: My location. Fire! In a matter of minutes, the Camden
- 4:06Speaker 1: police and rescue units came to the scene. Despite their wounds,
- 4:11Speaker 1: Agent Leone gives them a description of the shooter's car.
- 4:14Speaker 2: Paramedics try to stabilize him to transfer him to a
- 4:16Speaker 2: nearby hospital. The agent has bullet fragments embedded in his face.
- 4:33Speaker 2: Three hit me in the scalp, one in the left eye,
- 4:36Speaker 2: one in the right eye, and a piece of my nose.
- 4:40Speaker 1: You're lucky not to lose sight.
- 4:44Speaker 2: Paramedics quickly take Agent Leone to the hospital, while the
- 4:48Speaker 2: investigators register the place in search of evidence. The county prosecutor,
- 4:55Speaker 2: Lee Solomon.
- 4:57Speaker 4: The idea that someone is as shameless and arrogant as.
- 5:02Speaker 4: To shoot a gun at a police officer is something
- 5:06Speaker 4: against which we mobilize very quickly.
- 5:07Speaker 2: The investigators register the area in search of the shooter's vehicle.
- 5:12Speaker 2: The police is called to a house not very far
- 5:15Speaker 2: from the crime scene. A neighbor heard shots that same afternoon.
- 5:18Speaker 2: You received a call from the staff here. They realized
- 5:20Speaker 2: that the main door was full of bullet holes. Did
- 5:22Speaker 2: you hear something knocking on the door?
- 5:28Speaker 1: According to the man, that same.
- 5:30Speaker 2: Night someone tried to knock down the main door to
- 5:33Speaker 2: enter through.
- 5:36Speaker 2: The neighbor took his gun away. The intruders heard him
- 5:39Speaker 2: move in the house and opened fire. The neighbor turned
- 5:43Speaker 2: off the fire, which forced the attackers to retreat. The
- 5:54Speaker 2: police believe that the attack was what they call a
- 5:56Speaker 2: ninja-style robbery in which armed masked men invade.
- 5:59Speaker 1: A house to steal drugs and money. More than 50
- 6:00Speaker 1: rounds were fired at the house.
- 6:18Speaker 4: One of the bullets went through a wall, a refrigerator,
- 6:21Speaker 4: the back wall, the residence, and the projectile was never found.
- 6:25Speaker 3: Another one went through the roof, the floor, the roof,
- 6:28Speaker 3: and the roof. Again, the projectile was never found. It
- 6:31Speaker 3: was just a large caliber, so there.
- 6:33Speaker 2: Were reasons to worry. Later that morning, a few blocks away,
- 6:46Speaker 2: the police discovered an abandoned.
- 6:51Speaker 1: Vehicle.
- 6:51Speaker 2: The car coincided with the description of Agent Leone of
- 6:53Speaker 2: the vehicle used in the shooting. There were broken crystals.
- 6:58Speaker 2: In the quarry, there were bullet holes from the AR-15
- 7:01Speaker 2: and the.
- 7:02Speaker 1: 45 caliber pistol. And there was blood in the vehicle.
- 7:06Speaker 1: For the investigators, it was evident that one of the
- 7:08Speaker 1: authors had been injured. The agent checked the license plate.
- 7:16Speaker 1: The car belongs to a woman.
- 7:18Speaker 2: Who lives in the neighborhood. Unit K-9 detected the smell
- 7:23Speaker 2: of the car and dragged it to the same address
- 7:25Speaker 2: as the license plate of the vehicle. And they found
- 7:29Speaker 2: two or three apples from where I was.
- 7:31Speaker 1: The place where they shot me was.
- 7:36Speaker 2: A SWAT team prepares to assault the house in case
- 7:38Speaker 2: the shooters were still inside. And there was a primary
- 7:42Speaker 2: school that was closed that day because they thought there
- 7:44Speaker 2: would be a shooting with these individuals who.
- 7:47Speaker 1: Were heavily armed. Inside the house, there is no trace of.
- 7:56Speaker 2: The gunman. Instead, the SWAT team finds a woman who,
- 8:03Speaker 2: according to the police, is the owner of the vehicle.
- 8:05Speaker 1: Who do you think you are? You have this in
- 8:13Speaker 1: my house.
- 8:13Speaker 2: Are you okay? They find out that he is the
- 8:16Speaker 2: girlfriend of Charlie Rodríguez, one of the most violent criminals
- 8:19Speaker 2: in Camden. Between 1984 and 1989, Charlie was arrested for
- 8:23Speaker 2: charges related to weapons and drugs, as well as for
- 8:25Speaker 2: making terrorist threats.
- 8:26Speaker 1: Crazy Charlie was known as a guy capable of doing anything.
- 8:28Speaker 1: No violent act escaped him.
- 8:38Speaker 4: Crazy Charlie was the type of person who would shoot
- 8:41Speaker 4: a policeman, an old man, a young man.
- 8:43Speaker 2: He would shoot indiscriminately. SWAT does not find a trace
- 8:48Speaker 2: of the gunman. The police register the facilities and interrogate
- 8:52Speaker 2: the bride.
- 8:52Speaker 1: What are you doing at my house?
- 8:54Speaker 2: What's your name? She tells them that she was at
- 8:56Speaker 2: work at the time of the shooting and that she
- 8:58Speaker 2: had reported the theft of her car. The investigators register
- 9:04Speaker 2: the house and find drops of blood. They call the
- 9:09Speaker 2: forensics to collect.
- 9:10Speaker 1: The blood as evidence.
- 9:15Speaker 2: Investigators inspect the area and interrogate the neighbors of the girlfriend.
- 9:20Speaker 1: They find someone who remembers.
- 9:22Speaker 2: Having seen some men leave the girlfriend's house very early
- 9:25Speaker 2: that morning. After checking a reconnaissance wheel, he identifies one
- 9:30Speaker 2: of the men. According to police records, the suspect is
- 9:34Speaker 2: Jose Baez in conditional freedom for involuntary homicide and gun violations.
- 9:40Speaker 1: The police dragged Bass to an apartment in New Jersey.
- 9:44Speaker 2: The dangerous ex-convict is the only link that the investigators
- 9:48Speaker 2: have with a possible police killer.
- 9:50Speaker 1: A violent murder in New Jersey ends with the shooting.
- 10:00Speaker 1: shooting of a police officer.
- 10:05Speaker 2: The evidence leads the investigators to Jose Baez, an ex-convict
- 10:09Speaker 2: who they believe was involved in the shooting.
- 10:13Speaker 1: The case is quickly detained.
- 10:16Speaker 2: Turn around. Los investigadores notan que el sospechoso tiene una
- 10:22Speaker 2: herida en una de sus manos. Recientemente se había encontrado
- 10:26Speaker 2: algún tipo de herida de bala en la mano e
- 10:28Speaker 2: intentó coser el mismo con hilo. La policía arresta a
- 10:32Speaker 2: Baze por violaciones de la libertad condicional y toma una
- 10:34Speaker 2: muestra de su sangre para realizar pruebas de ADN. En
- 10:41Speaker 2: el laboratorio, la sangre de Baze se compara con las
- 10:43Speaker 2: pruebas reunidas en el tiroteo de Leone.
- 10:47Speaker 2: And they were able to cut his blood with the
- 10:49Speaker 2: blood found in the crime scene, in the vehicle and
- 10:51Speaker 2: in the house. Now, the investigators have evidence that Vallas
- 10:55Speaker 2: was in the car when they shot Agent Leone. But
- 10:56Speaker 2: they don't have evidence that suggests that he really pressed
- 11:00Speaker 2: the trigger.
- 11:00Speaker 1: At first, Vallas refuses to talk to the authorities. But
- 11:03Speaker 1: after two weeks under custody, he asks to meet with
- 11:08Speaker 1: the investigators.
- 11:17Speaker 4: You have already read your rights, so I have to
- 11:19Speaker 4: review it with you. I am a Kampden County investigator
- 11:22Speaker 4: and I am trying to gather information about the shooting.
- 11:25Speaker 2: Valles finally accepts to speak, but only if the police
- 11:29Speaker 2: take measures to protect his family.
- 11:32Speaker 1: Charlie Rodriguez?
- 11:33Speaker 2: He says that Charlie Rodriguez, the crazy Charlie, was involved
- 11:36Speaker 2: in the ninja robbery and the shooting of Leone.
- 11:38Speaker 1: I think Valles ended.
- 11:40Speaker 4: Up cooperating because there is Charlie. had threatened his family, and...
- 11:48Speaker 4: for fear that something could happen, he had cooperated.
- 11:51Speaker 2: The County Prosecutor's Office of Camden obtains an arrest warrant
- 11:55Speaker 2: against Charlie Rodriguez for attempted murder of a police.
- 12:00Speaker 1: Officer.
- 12:01Speaker 2: They also offer a $ 1, 000 reward for information that leads
- 12:03Speaker 2: to his arrest. The state of New Jersey places Charlie
- 12:08Speaker 2: Rodriguez on the list of the 10 most wanted fugitives.
- 12:13Speaker 1: There was a chase every day. When the Camden police
- 12:15Speaker 1: and the Camden County were looking for Charlie Rodriguez.
- 12:17Speaker 2: Although Charlie is very well known throughout Camden, the residents
- 12:22Speaker 2: are too afraid to talk to the police.
- 12:25Speaker 4: Fear is a powerful weapon for someone like Charlie Rodriguez.
- 12:30Speaker 2: In the month after the shooting of Officer Leone, the
- 12:33Speaker 2: police interrogate their informants. The only thing they discover is
- 12:36Speaker 2: that Charlie is hiding somewhere on the other side of
- 12:38Speaker 2: the river, in Philadelphia. As it is believed that Charlie
- 12:43Speaker 2: fled to another state, the local police resort.
- 12:46Speaker 1: To the FBI in search.
- 12:50Speaker 2: Of help. FBI agent John Tam obtains a federal order
- 12:53Speaker 2: and conducts a multi-state search of Charlie Rodriguez. I start
- 12:59Speaker 2: by getting good photos, reviewing their criminal history, and I
- 13:03Speaker 2: also review the penitentiary records to see who were their cellmates,
- 13:07Speaker 2: who visited them while they were in prison, and I
- 13:09Speaker 2: try to identify the people with whom they could have
- 13:12Speaker 2: been in contact.
- 13:15Speaker 1: FBI agents launch a wide network.
- 13:16Speaker 2: But just like the local police, the FBI discovers that
- 13:21Speaker 2: the agent is too terrorized to talk.
- 13:26Speaker 1: They knew about Charlie.
- 13:27Speaker 2: Charlie Rodriguez had a cold blooded murder fame. The agent
- 13:33Speaker 2: was very cautious when it came.
- 13:39Speaker 1: To talking about him.
- 13:40Speaker 2: The agents set up surveillance on Charlie's girlfriend, hoping to
- 13:43Speaker 2: take them to Charlie. Rodriguez had enough self-discipline to stay
- 13:47Speaker 2: away from her and keep her away from him.
- 13:48Speaker 1: So that didn't help us either.
- 13:52Speaker 2: During the following months, the agents continued to interrogate their
- 13:55Speaker 2: informants and discovered that Charlie was hiding in a marginal
- 13:59Speaker 2: neighborhood in Philadelphia.
- 14:00Speaker 1: Known as Badlands.
- 14:02Speaker 2: A very dangerous neighborhood with a lot of drug activity.
- 14:05Speaker 1: Difficult to watch. People live there intimidated by criminals.
- 14:09Speaker 2: It is a difficult place to find a fugitive because
- 14:11Speaker 2: there is very little cooperation.
- 14:13Speaker 1: The SWAT teams from the FBI find the Badlands buildings
- 14:16Speaker 1: where Charlie is believed to be hiding.
- 14:24Speaker 2: We sent the group to work on fugitives in Philadelphia.
- 14:27Speaker 2: At 5 in the morning, we arrived at the place.
- 14:29Speaker 2: We were catching someone.
- 14:30Speaker 1: It could be a criminal, but it wouldn't be Charlie Rodriguez.
- 14:33Speaker 2: You know, we would end up arresting someone who was
- 14:35Speaker 2: looking for something else. At the same time, in the
- 14:41Speaker 2: streets of Camden, plagued with criminals, the FBI is carrying
- 14:45Speaker 2: out a non-related drug investigation.
- 14:46Speaker 1: And Special Agent Jim Walsh receives an unexpected blow.
- 14:53Speaker 3: We had obtained information that Charlie Rodriguez.
- 14:57Speaker 4: His brother Joseph, and other people planned to commit a
- 15:02Speaker 4: robbery at a bank or a armored vehicle in the
- 15:06Speaker 4: near future.
- 15:10Speaker 2: Joseph Rodriguez had previously been convicted of murder in a
- 15:14Speaker 2: infamous crime related to drugs that occurred in the early
- 15:17Speaker 2: 90s when two teenagers.
- 15:20Speaker 1: Were killed in a drug sales corner in South Camden.
- 15:25Speaker 2: According to a informant, Charlie, Joe and Rodriguez have as
- 15:28Speaker 2: a target a bank in particular, in the nearby city
- 15:32Speaker 2: of Woodland, New Jersey. The agents established surveillance teams. If
- 15:38Speaker 2: the Rodriguez brothers robbed the bank, the local police would
- 15:42Speaker 2: be close ready to carry out the arrest.
- 15:47Speaker 1: But they spend weeks without signal of the thieves.
- 15:51Speaker 4: Due to the needs of staff, we could not maintain
- 15:54Speaker 4: the surveillance and, after approximately a month and a half,
- 15:57Speaker 4: we had to interrupt them.
- 15:58Speaker 3: On July 19, 1997, a.
- 16:00Speaker 2: Few weeks after the FBI finished the surveillance, several heavily
- 16:03Speaker 2: armed men assaulted the Woodland Bank. Two of the thieves
- 16:21Speaker 2: forced the cashier to empty the cash registers. The remaining
- 16:32Speaker 2: thief watches the vestibule and screams how much time has passed.
- 16:38Speaker 2: A thief tries to force the supervisor.
- 16:42Speaker 1: To open the vault. She tells him she can't. The
- 16:43Speaker 1: vault is locked.
- 16:52Speaker 2: He tells him that if he doesn't open the vault,
- 16:55Speaker 2: he'll kill her. In New Jersey, the shooting of a
- 17:03Speaker 2: Camden police officer begins a persecution of the FBI of
- 17:06Speaker 2: a violent ex-convict named Charlie Rodriguez. Five months later, three
- 17:15Speaker 2: men with semi-automatic weapons break into a bank in Woodland,
- 17:18Speaker 2: New Jersey. The bank supervisor can't open the vault.
- 17:24Speaker 1: He's on time.
- 17:25Speaker 2: One of the thieves threatens to kill him. The thieves
- 17:30Speaker 2: are all out of time.
- 17:31Speaker 1: They have to leave before the police arrive.
- 17:38Speaker 2: The bank supervisor escapes alive. FBI agents John Tam and
- 17:59Speaker 2: Jim Walsh investigate the robbery.
- 18:03Speaker 1: The bank's customers and employees are terrified.
- 18:05Speaker 3: Special Agent Jim Walsh.
- 18:10Speaker 4: All individuals were upset. A woman had to be taken
- 18:14Speaker 4: to the hospital. She was so scared that she suffered
- 18:17Speaker 4: a mild heart attack. Because of the violent nature of
- 18:21Speaker 4: the robbery at the bank, I immediately knew that it
- 18:25Speaker 4: was Charlie Rodriguez's brother.
- 18:31Speaker 2: Los agentes y la policía vigilaron los puentes hacia Pensilvania
- 18:34Speaker 2: y la autopista de Nueva Jersey.
- 18:36Speaker 1: En busca de los hermanos Rodríguez. No encontraron ni rastro
- 18:40Speaker 1: de ellos. En la oficina del FBI en Cherry Hill,
- 18:48Speaker 1: Nueva Jersey.
- 18:50Speaker 2: Los agentes Walshie y Tam estudian las fotos de vigilancia
- 18:53Speaker 2: y las grabaciones de las cámaras de seguridad del banco
- 18:55Speaker 2: en busca de pistas.
- 18:57Speaker 1: No los antecedentes, es el de... Agente especial jumped out.
- 19:00Speaker 2: We were able to see well the weapons they were carrying,
- 19:03Speaker 2: which were semi-automatic rifles, which is known as 15. It
- 19:08Speaker 2: is a very dangerous weapon because the standard bulletproof vest
- 19:11Speaker 2: of the order forces does not stop that shot. Although
- 19:15Speaker 2: the agents are sure that the thieves are Charlie and
- 19:17Speaker 2: Joey Rodriguez, they cannot identify them for sure due to surveillance.
- 19:21Speaker 3: They could not identify them in any way.
- 19:26Speaker 4: They were completely dressed, they wore gloves, masks, caps.
- 19:32Speaker 1: Joey Rodriguez continues to live openly in Camden.
- 19:35Speaker 2: The FBI does not have enough evidence to arrest him.
- 19:41Speaker 2: Agents watch Joey with the hope that he will take
- 19:43Speaker 2: them to Charlie.
- 19:46Speaker 1: He realized that he was the connection, if there was any.
- 19:41Speaker 2: Agentes vigilan a Joey con la esperanza de que los
- 19:43Speaker 2: lleve hasta Charlie. Se dio cuenta de que él era
- 19:47Speaker 2: la conexión, si es que había alguna con su hermano,
- 19:50Speaker 2: y se mantuvieron alejados el uno del otro. Durante los
- 19:54Speaker 2: siguientes siete meses, la zona de Camden, Nueva Jersey, se ve.
- 19:58Speaker 1: Afectada por una serie de robos a bancos.
- 20:01Speaker 2: Los hermanos Rodríguez son posibles sospechosos, pero la policía no
- 20:05Speaker 2: tiene pruebas contundentes que los vinculen con los crímenes. Morristown,
- 20:12Speaker 2: New Jersey.
- 20:12Speaker 1: A residential area in the north of Camden.
- 20:20Speaker 2: May 23, 19... More than a year after Agent Leone
- 20:21Speaker 2: was shot.
- 20:22Speaker 1: Three men arrive at a Morristown bank just before 8.30 a.m.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Everyone carries assault rifles or automatic guns.
- 20:39Speaker 2: The bank's doors are still closed. The thieves have lost
- 20:41Speaker 2: precious time.
- 20:44Speaker 3: They realize that a bank employee has probably activated.
- 20:49Speaker 2: The silent alarm. Two of the thieves force the.
- 20:50Speaker 1: Cashiers to empty the cash registers.
- 21:06Speaker 2: A third gunman watches the vestibule and shouts how much
- 21:08Speaker 2: time has passed.
- 21:12Speaker 1: The thieves are scared.
- 21:15Speaker 2: They decide that the cashiers move too slowly. The thieves.
- 21:23Speaker 1: Scare a cashier who arrives late. Hoy se de la
- 21:49Speaker 1: huida no arranca. Los ladrones entran en pánico. Amenazan a
- 21:54Speaker 1: la cajera y le exigen las.
- 21:55Speaker 2: Llaves del coche. La fuga se produce en su coche.
- 22:19Speaker 2: Passing in the thief's ammunition mode, agents Tamm and Walsh
- 22:23Speaker 2: decide that it was probably the Rodriguez brothers. Same characteristics.
- 22:29Speaker 1: Robbery surveillance photos provide even more clues.
- 22:35Speaker 2: The weapons, the masks and even some of the clothes
- 22:37Speaker 2: seem identical to those used in the robbery of the
- 22:39Speaker 2: Woodland Bank.
- 22:41Speaker 4: The photos show that in fact it was a similar
- 22:44Speaker 4: type of clothing.
- 22:46Speaker 2: But the two agents lack enough evidence to accuse any
- 22:49Speaker 2: of the Rodriguez brothers of robbing a bank.
- 22:53Speaker 1: The way the gang works seems to be evolving.
- 22:56Speaker 2: With each robbery, they.
- 22:57Speaker 1: Become more dangerous.
- 23:01Speaker 3: The violence of this group was going to increase. In
- 23:03Speaker 3: the end, someone was going to die.
- 23:07Speaker 4: Or a bank employee, a client, or an agent of
- 23:11Speaker 4: police who would respond to a robbery complaint to a bank.
- 23:16Speaker 3: There is no doubt that someone.
- 23:17Speaker 1: Is going to die.
- 23:19Speaker 2: Agents Tom and Walsh meet with the local police forces
- 23:21Speaker 2: in the cities and towns of Camden, New Jersey to
- 23:22Speaker 2: inform them.
- 23:23Speaker 1: About the movement of the gang.
- 23:24Speaker 2: At the end of July 1998, Agent Tom receives an
- 23:25Speaker 2: intriguing clue from Lieutenant Roy Whitmore of the Merchantville, New
- 23:30Speaker 2: Jersey Police Department. I know a gentleman.
- 23:32Speaker 1: He said, I have a person who grew up with Rodríguez.
- 23:46Speaker 2: Y que conoce bastante bien a su hermano, que podría
- 23:50Speaker 2: estar dispuesto a localizar al loco Charlie Rodríguez. Un año
- 23:54Speaker 2: y medio después de iniciada la investigación, el FBI tiene
- 23:57Speaker 2: la posibilidad de encontrar a un informante con acceso a
- 23:59Speaker 2: información sobre Charlie Rodríguez. Fue el mayor avance posible, porque
- 24:05Speaker 2: habíamos estado buscando a ciegas, a alguien que cooperara con
- 24:09Speaker 2: nosotros y entregará a Charlie Rodríguez. El Teniente Wilmore organizó
- 24:15Speaker 2: una reunión so that I could get to know this
- 24:18Speaker 2: person and formulate a way to get Charlie Rodriguez out
- 24:22Speaker 2: of wherever he was hiding in Philadelphia. The informant is
- 24:28Speaker 2: a former police officer who was forced to resign due
- 24:31Speaker 2: to a minor crime.
- 24:34Speaker 1: With weapons. Well, I thought he was smart, surprisingly.
- 24:38Speaker 2: He was eloquent, taking into account that he lived in
- 24:42Speaker 2: a very harsh urban environment.
- 24:46Speaker 1: Y me pareció honesto y fiable.
- 24:49Speaker 2: El ex policía dice que quiere detener a Charlie antes
- 24:52Speaker 2: de que alguien más, especialmente un agente de policía, reciba
- 24:55Speaker 2: un disparo o muera.
- 24:58Speaker 1: Hablamos de su relación con Joseph Rodríguez.
- 25:02Speaker 2: Los agentes teorizan que Joseph está de algún modo en
- 25:05Speaker 2: contacto con su hermano para poder planear robos. I suggested
- 25:10Speaker 2: that maybe I could find out something about Joseph, about
- 25:12Speaker 2: if he ever saw his brother, if he was in
- 25:15Speaker 2: contact with him, how he got in touch with him,
- 25:17Speaker 2: and the frequency of contact, because maybe we could take
- 25:21Speaker 2: advantage of that to locate Charlie Rodriguez. The agents Tammy
- 25:27Speaker 2: Walsh devise a plan to use their informant to get
- 25:29Speaker 2: Charlie out of his hideout.
- 25:30Speaker 1: They know that the ex-policeman used to sell weapons.
- 25:37Speaker 2: He had worked for a smuggler. of firearms, and that
- 25:41Speaker 2: was known in the streets of South Camden. But now
- 25:45Speaker 2: the ex-policeman has it prohibited by law to own or
- 25:47Speaker 2: sell firearms. The agents decide to use the informant's background
- 25:52Speaker 2: to help establish their cover.
- 25:53Speaker 1: I was going.
- 25:55Speaker 4: To see Joseph Rodriguez and... and I was going to
- 25:58Speaker 4: ask him if he was interested in buying a gun.
- 26:02Speaker 4: We thought it would be a good introduction, and now
- 26:04Speaker 4: I wanted to get into the criminal.
- 26:08Speaker 2: Sabía que eso interesaría a Charlie Rodríguez debido a su
- 26:12Speaker 2: naturaleza delictiva violenta. Los delincuentes siempre están interesados en adquirir
- 26:17Speaker 2: nuevas armas. Pueden deshacerse de cualquier arma que hayan usado
- 26:21Speaker 2: antes y pasar a otra que no esté relacionada con
- 26:23Speaker 2: sus delitos anteriores.
- 26:26Speaker 1: El ex policía.
- 26:26Speaker 2: Acepta acercarse a Joey en una reunión familiar unos días después.
- 26:31Speaker 1: Al principio, Joey se muestra cauteloso.
- 26:34Speaker 3: Joseph sabía que había sido agente de policía.
- 26:38Speaker 4: They had fired him from the department and he used
- 26:41Speaker 4: this as a presentation.
- 26:44Speaker 3: Unjustly, I was fooled by the police.
- 26:47Speaker 1: Let's go to the party. A few days.
- 26:54Speaker 2: Later, Joey gets in touch with the ex-policeman and organizes
- 26:57Speaker 2: a meeting.
- 26:59Speaker 3: He says, yes, I've talked to Charlie. About it, Charlie
- 27:02Speaker 3: is interested in buying the gun.
- 27:04Speaker 1: It won't take long.
- 27:06Speaker 4: So we knew that we were progressing and we knew
- 27:09Speaker 4: that Charlie Rodriguez was close.
- 27:14Speaker 2: Agent Tam tells the undercover ex-police that they need to
- 27:17Speaker 2: meet with Charlie face to face. Joseph Rodriguez would be
- 27:22Speaker 2: delighted to buy the gun and give it to Charlie Rodriguez,
- 27:25Speaker 2: but that would not help us.
- 27:26Speaker 1: He took the gun.
- 27:28Speaker 2: So at that moment I tell you that I was
- 27:30Speaker 2: going to have to give the gun to Charlie Rodriguez
- 27:33Speaker 2: so that....
- 27:36Speaker 1: Could arrest him.
- 27:39Speaker 2: The FBI has no intention of delivering a weapon that
- 27:42Speaker 2: works on any of the Rodriguez brothers. The ex-policeman goes
- 27:51Speaker 2: to Joey's apartment to try to organize the sale.
- 27:53Speaker 3: The source was taking tremendous risks.
- 27:59Speaker 4: In my opinion, they would have killed him immediately if
- 28:02Speaker 4: Charlie or Joey Rodriguez found out that.
- 28:04Speaker 3: He was cooperating with the others.
- 28:12Speaker 2: Amden, New Jersey. An ex-policeman lands in a dangerous undercover
- 28:19Speaker 2: operation for the FBI. Charlie Rodriguez, also known as Crazy Charlie,
- 28:26Speaker 2: is suspected of shooting a police officer and robbing banks.
- 28:32Speaker 2: The ex-policeman tries to infiltrate Charlie's gang, offering to sell
- 28:39Speaker 2: him weapons. El informante encubierto se reúne con el hermano
- 28:46Speaker 2: de Charlie. Joey Rodriguez, un ex convicto que ha cumplido
- 28:54Speaker 2: condena por homicidio involuntario, comprueba si lleva micrófono. Sí, no
- 28:59Speaker 2: lo veo.
- 29:00Speaker 4: No llevaba ningún dispositivo de grabación, ni nada, porque temíamos
- 29:03Speaker 4: que si lo encontrábamos lo matarían de inmediato.
- 29:09Speaker 2: Little by little, through a series of meetings, the ex-policeman
- 29:13Speaker 2: gains the trust of Joey. The informant on the cover
- 29:22Speaker 2: tells the agents of the FBI John Tam and Jim
- 29:25Speaker 2: Walsh that Joey even asked for advice on an imminent robbery.
- 29:28Speaker 2: I told him.
- 29:31Speaker 1: It's a good idea. Tell them you're interested in participating.
- 29:35Speaker 2: Y pensé que tal vez eso nos daría más información
- 29:37Speaker 2: sobre dónde estaban, ya sabes, dónde podría reunirse. Podríamos interrumpirlos
- 29:41Speaker 2: antes de que realmente empezaran con todo. El ex policía
- 29:46Speaker 2: añade que Charlie Rodríguez está buscando un gran golpe esta vez.
- 29:50Speaker 1: 100 mil dólares o más.
- 29:54Speaker 2: Le dije, bueno, entonces vamos a sugerirles un delito para
- 29:58Speaker 2: que lo cometa.
- 30:01Speaker 1: If they want to steal someone, we will give them
- 30:04Speaker 1: a goal to steal.
- 30:07Speaker 2: The Walsh and Tam agents plan an undercover operation to
- 30:10Speaker 2: attract Charlie Rodriguez to the public light without putting the
- 30:12Speaker 2: public in danger.
- 30:16Speaker 1: The key is credibility.
- 30:17Speaker 2: The criminal has to believe the scenario. There has to
- 30:22Speaker 2: be money. There has to be opportunity. There has to.
- 30:25Speaker 1: Be a plausibility that the crime can be committed.
- 30:30Speaker 2: I suggested that we steal an armored vehicle that serves
- 30:33Speaker 2: an automatic truck on the New Jersey toll road. Because
- 30:37Speaker 2: this would give us an environment in which we could
- 30:41Speaker 2: seal a rest area where the automatic truck was located
- 30:46Speaker 2: and catch them there. Agent Stamm and Walsh chose a
- 30:50Speaker 2: place that they considered to work well. And we select
- 30:55Speaker 2: a rest area located in Cherry Hill, New Jersey. The
- 30:59Speaker 2: rest area was located below the ground level of the
- 31:01Speaker 2: surrounding community. So if there were shots or something like that,
- 31:04Speaker 2: the bullets would tend to shoot towards a hill instead
- 31:08Speaker 2: of flying all over the place.
- 31:09Speaker 1: The most important thing for us was that we felt that.
- 31:13Speaker 3: He was in a place that we could assure and control.
- 31:14Speaker 4: The man in the cover proposes theft to Joey, who
- 31:17Speaker 4: evaluates carefully each of his words.
- 31:18Speaker 1: Why don't.
- 31:20Speaker 2: You join me with your part? He was able to
- 31:28Speaker 2: return with Joseph Rodriguez and tell him, I know a
- 31:31Speaker 2: driver of a armored vehicle who is willing to cooperate
- 31:35Speaker 2: with us and who had an important debt for sports bets,
- 31:39Speaker 2: gambling debts and who wanted to participate in the profits
- 31:42Speaker 2: of the robbery. The former undercover police officer says that
- 31:47Speaker 2: the driver of the armored vehicle will be his infiltrator
- 31:50Speaker 2: and will give them more.
- 31:50Speaker 5: Than $ 200, 000.
- 32:05Speaker 2: Dos días después, Joey vuelve a hablar con el ex
- 32:07Speaker 2: policía con una respuesta.
- 32:10Speaker 3: Joseph dice, Charlie cree que es una gran idea. Sigamos
- 32:13Speaker 3: adelante con un plan y hagamos esto.
- 32:16Speaker 2: Joey dice que quiere revisar el área de descanso con
- 32:19Speaker 2: una tercera persona.
- 32:20Speaker 1: Quién es?
- 32:22Speaker 2: Mío. El ex policía está preocupado por el repentino cambio
- 32:26Speaker 2: de planes.
- 32:31Speaker 3: Luis dice, no te preocupes por él. Está bien.
- 32:35Speaker 1: You can trust him. The name of the newcomer is
- 32:39Speaker 1: José Sto. Sto had a wide and violent criminal history.
- 32:46Speaker 1: He had also been convicted of second degree.
- 32:49Speaker 2: Murder and was in probation.
- 32:50Speaker 1: They led him to the rest area and basically they
- 32:51Speaker 1: confirmed it to see if they would be able to
- 32:57Speaker 1: carry out the robbery. El área de descanso tiene una
- 33:04Speaker 1: vía de servicio secundaria.
- 33:06Speaker 2: Les permitirá entrar y salir del área de descanso sin
- 33:08Speaker 2: tener que ir a la autopista. Sabían que podrían escapar
- 33:13Speaker 2: y probablemente nadie los vería. A los ladrones les gustó
- 33:19Speaker 2: todo sobre el lugar. Y al FBI también les gustó
- 33:23Speaker 2: todo sobre su ubicación. Porque nos permitiría aislarlos en una
- 33:26Speaker 2: zona de la que no podrían escapar. and where the
- 33:30Speaker 2: public in general would be protected from any type of
- 33:33Speaker 2: activity with firearms, shots or anything that could happen. We
- 33:39Speaker 2: drive around the rest area, following the route that the
- 33:41Speaker 2: armored vehicle will take when it approaches the ATM. Joseph
- 33:46Speaker 2: Rodriguez knew the place and felt comfortable with it. So
- 33:51Speaker 2: instead of the cooperator having to sell it to Charlie Rodriguez,
- 33:55Speaker 2: Joseph Rodriguez sold it to him for us. The informant
- 34:06Speaker 2: on the roof tells the FBI that Charlie Rodriguez is
- 34:08Speaker 2: the target.
- 34:09Speaker 1: Of the operation on the roof. Has he approved the
- 34:11Speaker 1: robbery for August 27? With a plan already in motion,
- 34:22Speaker 1: the FBI contacts the agency responsible.
- 34:24Speaker 2: For the toll road in the rest area, the New
- 34:25Speaker 2: Jersey State Police. Agent TAM reports to Lieutenant Colonel Robert Dunlop.
- 34:36Speaker 2: Dunlop's soldiers will close the entire area and the toll
- 34:39Speaker 2: road to protect the public. We always have news helicopters
- 34:42Speaker 2: in the air.
- 34:43Speaker 4: The radio stations would have said that there were reinforcements
- 34:46Speaker 4: on the highway. For this to work, we had to
- 34:48Speaker 4: coordinate to close this.
- 34:49Speaker 2: Rest area just moments before our suspects arrived, so that
- 34:53Speaker 2: it would not scare anyone. SWAT teams would be located
- 35:03Speaker 2: at the entrance of the highway and inside the buildings
- 35:04Speaker 2: of the rest area.
- 35:05Speaker 1: Three days.
- 35:08Speaker 2: Before the undercover operation, Tamm and Walsh would meet with
- 35:12Speaker 2: the SWAT leaders, the FBI and the police to review
- 35:14Speaker 2: the plan to.
- 35:15Speaker 1: Capture the Rodriguez brothers in Sotot. We knew they were
- 35:21Speaker 1: going to be heavily armed.
- 35:23Speaker 2: And we knew that, at least in Charles Rodriguez's case,
- 35:24Speaker 2: they had a tendency to shoot people when they faced them.
- 35:28Speaker 2: The plan is to evacuate the rest area minutes before
- 35:31Speaker 2: the Rodriguez gang arrives.
- 35:32Speaker 1: The FBI.
- 35:34Speaker 2: Informant will park behind the rest area, but then walk
- 35:36Speaker 2: to the front of the building to get out of
- 35:39Speaker 2: the fire line. The SWAT team will hide inside a
- 35:40Speaker 2: spare truck. Reinforced snipers on a roof.
- 35:43Speaker 1: A crane will go down the road of access driven
- 35:45Speaker 1: by an agent.
- 35:58Speaker 4: And plan to immobilize the car with the Rodriguez brothers.
- 36:05Speaker 3: In that place where they couldn't get it out.
- 36:07Speaker 1: Once the gang is caught, the SWAT team will carry
- 36:11Speaker 1: out the arrest.
- 36:13Speaker 2: The plan was good in the sense that if they
- 36:15Speaker 2: had a little common sense, they would surrender.
- 36:18Speaker 1: August 27, 1998. Agents and state police meet in the
- 36:21Speaker 1: rest area. Understood.
- 36:27Speaker 2: The trap is set.
- 36:30Speaker 1: Easton.
- 36:31Speaker 4: The madness of Charlie is considered a very dangerous and
- 36:35Speaker 4: unpredictable criminal. I think that everyone who participated in this
- 36:39Speaker 4: operation knew that there was a great possibility that he
- 36:41Speaker 4: would not fall so easily. As much as we planned it,
- 36:43Speaker 4: there was always the possibility that he would want to shoot.
- 36:57Speaker 1: Amden, New Jersey.
- 36:59Speaker 2: Charlie Rodriguez is suspected of hurting a police officer and
- 37:03Speaker 2: robbing banks.
- 37:03Speaker 1: August 27, 1998.
- 37:07Speaker 2: FBI agents John Tomey and Jim Walsh have devised a
- 37:09Speaker 2: complex undercover operation to catch the dangerous fugitive and his team.
- 37:13Speaker 1: Almost 100 agents and law enforcement officers.
- 37:16Speaker 6: Are stationed in a New Jersey rest area¿ Pero Charlie
- 37:28Speaker 6: y su equipo no se presentaron?
- 37:31Speaker 4: Nos preguntamos dónde nos habíamos equivocado.¿ Habían averiguado algo al respecto?¿
- 37:36Speaker 4: Sospechan ahora de una fuente?
- 37:39Speaker 2: Los agentes están preocupados por su informante, un ex policía
- 37:42Speaker 2: que les ayudó a infiltrarse en la banda de Rodríguez.
- 37:47Speaker 2: Si Charlie Rodríguez sabe que le han tendido una trampa,
- 37:49Speaker 2: podría matar al informante del FBI.
- 37:55Speaker 1: Temprano esa mañana recibo una llamada del cooperador.
- 37:59Speaker 2: Me dice que los hermanos Rodriguez que iban a reunirse
- 38:02Speaker 2: con él en su apartamento.
- 38:04Speaker 1: De Merchantville, New Jersey, no habían llegado.
- 38:08Speaker 4: Le pedimos a la fuente que se pusiera en contacto
- 38:10Speaker 4: con Joey Rodriguez y averiguara por qué no se habían presentado.
- 38:16Speaker 2: A pesar del peligro, el agente encubierto del FBI acepta
- 38:19Speaker 2: hablar con Joey. Joey says that the day before, the
- 38:37Speaker 2: Alguaciles came to look for one of the members of
- 38:39Speaker 2: the band, Jose Soto. Don't get close. The undercover agent
- 38:46Speaker 2: informs the FBI.
- 38:48Speaker 1: About the problem.
- 38:50Speaker 2: The Alguacil department of the county had an arrest warrant
- 38:52Speaker 2: against Jose Soto for not paying for the maintenance.
- 38:54Speaker 1: Of his children. Yes, he had scared them a little
- 38:58Speaker 1: and they decided not to go ahead with the robbery.
- 39:00Speaker 1: They returned him.
- 39:01Speaker 2: Agent Walsh asks the agents to tell Soto that the
- 39:03Speaker 2: only thing they want from him is a promise to
- 39:06Speaker 2: pay for the maintenance of his.
- 39:08Speaker 1: Children. That's right. The Rodriguez brothers and Soto feel relieved.
- 39:14Speaker 2: The next day, Joey meets with the ex-police officer near
- 39:17Speaker 2: the Ben Franklin Bridge to tell him that Charlie has
- 39:20Speaker 2: chosen a new date for the robbery.
- 39:22Speaker 1: On September 1st. The undercover operation of the FBI has returned.
- 39:31Speaker 2: According to his informant, Charlie and the team must arrive
- 39:35Speaker 2: at his apartment early in the morning of the robbery.
- 39:39Speaker 2: All of them will drive together to the rest area.
- 39:41Speaker 5: The possibility of arresting him in the apartment was considered. However,
- 39:48Speaker 5: the SWAT team members considered that it was not an
- 39:51Speaker 5: environment as safe as the rest area because there were
- 39:53Speaker 5: other people looking at the apartments above and on both sides.
- 40:00Speaker 2: The apartment complex was next to a children's park and
- 40:03Speaker 2: a primary school. The whole environment would be horrible for
- 40:05Speaker 2: a violent arrest, so we wanted to get them out
- 40:08Speaker 2: of there.
- 40:08Speaker 1: He agreed that we would.
- 40:10Speaker 4: Continue with the original plan and that it would be
- 40:12Speaker 4: carried out.
- 40:13Speaker 1: In the rest area. The morning of the robbery.
- 40:19Speaker 2: The undercover FBI agent waits in his apartment for the
- 40:22Speaker 2: team to arrive.
- 40:23Speaker 4: Until that moment, Charlie Rodriguez had not presented himself. The
- 40:28Speaker 4: source had not yet seen or known Charlie Rodriguez during
- 40:31Speaker 4: all this time.
- 40:32Speaker 1: Finally, he manages.
- 40:35Speaker 2: To meet Charlie face to face.
- 40:36Speaker 1: You can find a.
- 40:45Speaker 2: Chair.
- 40:49Speaker 1: I'm going to eat something.
- 40:57Speaker 3: What do you want?
- 40:58Speaker 2: Don.
- 40:58Speaker 4: The source has the opportunity to go out to look for.
- 41:03Speaker 3: orange juice and donuts.
- 41:06Speaker 2: To take them.
- 41:07Speaker 1: Take the opportunity to call Agent Tam. Get out!
- 41:11Speaker 2: The robbery continues as planned.
- 41:13Speaker 1: Yes, they are in the apartment. It's a fact.
- 41:24Speaker 2: In the apartment, the team puts on bulletproof vests and
- 41:27Speaker 2: checks their weapons. The FBI infiltrator puts on a distinctive
- 41:37Speaker 2: baseball cap. We made him wear a baseball cap that
- 41:41Speaker 2: everyone would recognize so they would know he was the collaborator.
- 41:48Speaker 2: The thieves head to the rest area in two stolen cars.
- 41:57Speaker 1: The FBI's surveillance keeps the agents informed of the location
- 41:58Speaker 1: of the thieves so that they can evacuate the rest
- 42:00Speaker 1: area before they arrive. We closed both the rest area
- 42:02Speaker 1: and the highway in a 10 to 15 minute period.
- 42:05Speaker 4: The man on the roof parks one of the stolen
- 42:07Speaker 4: cars in a nearby neighborhood to.
- 42:09Speaker 1: Use it as an escape car after.
- 42:14Speaker 2: The robbery. Luego conduce a los hermanos Rodríguez y se
- 42:29Speaker 2: detiene en la carretera secundaria hacia el área de descanso.
- 42:31Speaker 1: Ya está allí. Los agentes del FBI se preparan para
- 42:39Speaker 1: la operación.
- 42:42Speaker 3: Sabía que iba a ser una operación muy peligrosa.
- 42:44Speaker 4: La fuente iba a correr peligro, además de muchos agentes
- 42:48Speaker 4: y personal policial.
- 42:51Speaker 2: Mi preocupación era que no hubiera nadie gravemente herido o
- 42:55Speaker 2: muerto durante esta operación. We only try to arrest these people,
- 42:59Speaker 2: causing the least number of possible injuries. The SWAT team
- 43:01Speaker 2: of the FBI waits inside a delivery truck.
- 43:05Speaker 1: We had FBI snipers on the roof of the rest area.
- 43:07Speaker 1: In case they got.
- 43:10Speaker 4: Out of the car and tried to flee or shoot
- 43:12Speaker 4: the agents or any other person. Almost 100 agents of
- 43:14Speaker 4: the law are hidden in the rest area and around them.
- 43:29Speaker 4: No importa en cuantas de estas operaciones hayas participado, siempre
- 43:32Speaker 4: hay un subidón de adrenalina justo antes. Lo que pasa
- 43:36Speaker 4: por mi mente es que espero que no haya disparos.
- 43:39Speaker 1: Espero que nadie resulte.
- 43:41Speaker 4: Espero que podamos acabar con estas personas sin ningún problema grave.
- 43:45Speaker 2: El informante del FBI conduce al equipo por una carretera
- 43:49Speaker 2: secundaria hasta el área de descanso.
- 44:00Speaker 3: And the front parked exactly where they told him to.
- 44:03Speaker 1: Our plan was to use.
- 44:07Speaker 2: His vehicle by dressing him with a crane, which would
- 44:10Speaker 2: probably make them lose their firearms.
- 44:11Speaker 1: And then they would face the SWAT team.
- 44:13Speaker 2: The FBI agent on the crane waits for the alert signal.
- 44:15Speaker 1: The man in the cover leaves his car.
- 44:28Speaker 4: The main concern of this whole plan was to get
- 44:32Speaker 4: the source.
- 44:33Speaker 3: Out of the car, the security of the source. And
- 44:36Speaker 3: once he got out of the.
- 44:37Speaker 1: Car, I felt that everything would be fine.
- 44:43Speaker 2: But before the FBI source could get out of the car,
- 44:45Speaker 2: Charlie realizes that something is wrong.
- 44:48Speaker 1: The informant's cover is in danger of being discovered.
- 44:52Speaker 2: A fake move now could cost him his life. Do
- 44:55Speaker 2: you want to travel to the trunk or do you
- 44:57Speaker 2: prefer to drive the car?
- 45:02Speaker 1: In the New Jersey.
- 45:05Speaker 2: Arrest zone. The FBI launches an undercover operation to catch
- 45:08Speaker 2: a gang of dangerous bank robbers.
- 45:12Speaker 1: The leader of the gang, Charlie Rodriguez, presents a trap.
- 45:16Speaker 1: He forces the driver.
- 45:19Speaker 2: Of the car, a collaborator of the FBI, to get
- 45:22Speaker 2: back in the car, asking a SWAT team of the
- 45:24Speaker 2: FBI to intervene. The undercover agent is trapped. This agent
- 45:37Speaker 2: takes a difficult decision. So I tell the brigade team
- 45:40Speaker 2: to keep going and execute their secondary plan, which was
- 45:43Speaker 2: the demolition.
- 45:43Speaker 1: And that it also implied that the crane put the
- 45:50Speaker 1: car in. The crane turns to immobilize the thief's car.
- 45:53Speaker 2: When the crane approaches, Charlie tells.
- 45:54Speaker 1: Him the source.
- 45:57Speaker 2: Something happens here.
- 45:57Speaker 1: This is a trap.
- 46:05Speaker 3: Let's get out of here.
- 46:08Speaker 2: The undercover FBI agent who needs to protect his identity
- 46:10Speaker 2: moves away from the SWAT team at full speed. And
- 46:13Speaker 2: one of the gunmen tries to shoot the SWAT agents.
- 46:14Speaker 1: Open fire.
- 46:15Speaker 2: When the shooting took place, I think we all said,
- 46:17Speaker 2: I hope.
- 46:18Speaker 1: We don't end up giving our confidential source away. The
- 46:33Speaker 1: cloud crashed against the back of the car that was
- 46:35Speaker 1: about to escape. Open the door. Raise your hands.
- 46:38Speaker 5: When it finally ended and we had these people.
- 46:47Speaker 2: Under custody, I think everyone felt a tremendous relief.
- 46:54Speaker 3: And satisfaction because everything went well.
- 47:04Speaker 1: Incredibly, the work on the roof was not damaged. FBI
- 47:06Speaker 1: agents recover.
- 47:17Speaker 2: A huge arsenal of weapons from the Rodriguez brothers in Soto. Yes,
- 47:19Speaker 2: the amount of weapons and ammunition that was recovered.
- 47:23Speaker 4: From the interior of this car was something that I
- 47:26Speaker 4: had never seen or heard before. is more firepower than
- 47:35Speaker 4: it would be necessary to steal a thousand banks. The
- 47:40Speaker 4: weapons included an AR-15 converted into automatic, a machine gun
- 47:44Speaker 4: with silencer, and a Chinese clone of the AK-47 also
- 47:48Speaker 4: converted into automatic. Each of the gunners also carried short
- 47:55Speaker 4: weapons with the serial numbers hammered, and dozens of fully loaded.
- 48:00Speaker 2: Magazines. In total, they had more than a thousand ammunition cartridges.
- 48:08Speaker 4: Charlie Rodríguez made a comment that if he had known
- 48:10Speaker 4: what was going to happen, he would have brought his.
- 48:12Speaker 1: Grenades by hand.
- 48:13Speaker 4: That they arrested them without anyone getting hurt with the
- 48:18Speaker 4: type of ammunition and weapons they carried on top was
- 48:22Speaker 4: an incredible feat.
- 48:23Speaker 3: The Rodríguez brothers.
- 48:26Speaker 1: Were violent criminals. They had already killed before and would
- 48:31Speaker 1: kill again.
- 48:32Speaker 2: And the only solution was to lock them up forever,
- 48:36Speaker 2: which is what finally happened. On March 30, 2000, José
- 48:39Speaker 2: Soma was sentenced to 37 years in a federal court
- 48:43Speaker 2: for attempted robbery of a armored vehicle and for crimes
- 48:46Speaker 2: related to weapons. Charlie and Joey Rodríguez were sentenced to
- 48:55Speaker 2: life imprisonment for two bank robberies, attempted robbery of a
- 48:57Speaker 2: armored vehicle, and crimes related to weapons.