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Bob Nightengale's Notes: Pitching trade market, Bryce Harper's All-Star commish selection, Skubal n/a? · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Tis the season in USA.
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  Speaker 2: Today's Bob nightingale Ft Insider. Here with us and Bob,
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  Speaker 2: we have a lot to hit. Let's start with your
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  Speaker 2: seven potential all stars who could soon switch teams, and
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  Speaker 2: I'll do a theme to start here. So mix in
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  Speaker 2: your schoobl prediction along with your thoughts on the overall
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  Speaker 2: starting pitching market, Bob. That includes potentially Sonny Gray, maybe
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  Speaker 2: Eduardo Rodriguez, maybe Jose Soriano. What do you think of
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  Speaker 2: some of the upper tier starting pitchers schoobl in a
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  Speaker 2: class of the zone.
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  Speaker 1: I know, yeah, I think that guys like read Deeptmers
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  Speaker 1: for instance.
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  Speaker 3: You know now with John Boziliak, he's got to talk
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  Speaker 3: Ardy Marino went too it, but he's got two plus
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  Speaker 3: years left in the control. So I think you get
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  Speaker 3: a ton for dept Meers, same thing as Sarriano. I
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  Speaker 3: think you get a ton for u Soriano as well.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Gray's just entermental. Freddy Peralta is just oriental,
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  Speaker 3: same as school ball. But I particularly think that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: if the Angels can convince Aredy Mareno to the sale,
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  Speaker 3: I think Dets and sorry, I don't you know, get
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  Speaker 3: a ton.
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  Speaker 4: Back, Bob, What does that mean though, because didn't already
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  Speaker 4: already come out, so he's not trading these guys. Didn't
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  Speaker 4: he already come out, didn't they say? Now, I know
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  Speaker 4: that was Manesian there, but can John Mozaylac talk him
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  Speaker 4: into doing something like this because Arty Moreno hasn't in
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  Speaker 4: the past been willing to make a move like that,
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  Speaker 4: even though the Angels have stunk forever.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see. I mean, why did John and Mosere
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  Speaker 1: let go there?
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  Speaker 3: Unless you know he was told that, Okay, you can
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  Speaker 3: have some autonomy here, you can make some moves, So
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  Speaker 3: we'll see. Otherwise you might as well just let you
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  Speaker 3: know Perry running out to the animous contract at the
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  Speaker 3: end of the season. So I think it'd be very
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  Speaker 3: interesting to see, Okay, can we spend money here? Can
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  Speaker 3: we put money back into the infrastructure? And do we
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  Speaker 3: move these guys? And I'm not sure you want to
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  Speaker 3: move Debt versus Serniano because you have two and half
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  Speaker 3: years of control.
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  Speaker 1: You can certainly do it later on.
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  Speaker 3: But being set to seller's market, and I think these
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  Speaker 3: teams are gonna get it to whoever starts selling.
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  Speaker 5: All right, Well, the biggest seller from last year was
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  Speaker 5: the Twins. Where does Joe Ryan sit with the twins
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  Speaker 5: kind of in that muddled American league.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, with the with.
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  Speaker 3: The owner Joe Poland, I think they want to kind
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  Speaker 3: of stay put in uh and go for this thing.
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  Speaker 1: You imagine if they had kept you know, DuRane and Barlin.
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  Speaker 1: I mean Barlin.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why they trade him as a homegrown kid,
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  Speaker 3: you know, right in the Twin Cities. He still had
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  Speaker 3: what five years of control, so that would made no sense.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, if they have both those guys, who knows,
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  Speaker 3: they might be leaving the al Central. So I think
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  Speaker 3: here in the ownership group is like, hey, we gotta
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  Speaker 3: get the bands back and everything else. Maybe they don't
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  Speaker 3: want to trade a a Joe Ryan. They're certainly not
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  Speaker 3: trading Buckston. Buckson doesn't want to go anywhere anyway. Do
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  Speaker 3: they trade a Royce Lewis?
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  Speaker 1: We'll see.
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  Speaker 3: I think right now, if they stay where they are,
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  Speaker 3: you know, within five four games, I think they stay
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  Speaker 3: stay pet.
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  Speaker 4: We all know the White Sox are winning the Central,
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  Speaker 4: So you watch your mouth when you talk about your
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  Speaker 4: twins like that.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, Bill, what about the Red Sox?
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  Speaker 4: Sonny Gray has been mentioned a rule as Chapman's been mentioned,
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  Speaker 4: but I thought they still believe they.
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  Speaker 6: Have a team that can compete and can win.
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  Speaker 4: And after they won the series against the Angels, I
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  Speaker 4: think they're only five games out of the wildcard.
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  Speaker 6: Would they still make a move for Sonny Gray and
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  Speaker 6: would they make a move to get rid of and
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  Speaker 6: a ruld as Chapman.
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  Speaker 3: I think it depends how much closer they are, but
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  Speaker 3: whether they still eight games below five hundred. I think
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  Speaker 3: they inch closer to five hundred, and they win them
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  Speaker 3: four three games, then I.
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  Speaker 1: Think they must have to stay pat.
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  Speaker 3: The one thing, too, is Sunny Gray's got a full
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  Speaker 3: of non tray clause there's a lot of places he
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  Speaker 3: doesn't want to bitch. So we'll see, you know, you
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  Speaker 3: know Atlanta would love to have him. You know, he's
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  Speaker 3: from the from the Midwest. Anyway, I think the White
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  Speaker 3: Sox will.
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  Speaker 1: Love to have him.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, teams like the White Sox, you'll take
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  Speaker 3: on money, but you don't want to give what top
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  Speaker 3: prosps spects that go for it because they went through
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  Speaker 3: the growing pains to get those prospects, So you can't
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  Speaker 3: just give them up.
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  Speaker 1: Just go for it for one year, but they'll take
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  Speaker 1: on money for sure.
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  Speaker 5: An intriguing name for me that actually has club control
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  Speaker 5: for next year. Also, EDWARDO. Rodriguez is four games out
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  Speaker 5: in the National League, which is good for the Diamondbacks,
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  Speaker 5: enough for the Diamondbacks to possibly shed some payroll for
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  Speaker 5: next year and get rid of the All Star at
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  Speaker 5: Water Arigez.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like a year ago, Eric, where they
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  Speaker 3: were kind of the bubble. Then they played so poorly
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  Speaker 3: down the stretch they thought they had a move, so
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  Speaker 3: they moved Merrill Kelly and uh you know, uh you
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  Speaker 3: Henni of Suarez, Josh Naylor and moved those guys.
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  Speaker 1: They're kind of the same predicament. This time.
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  Speaker 3: They play four games against the seven games against the
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  Speaker 3: Podres and Dodgers coming up this week before the break.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they're you know, they've been playing terrible and
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  Speaker 3: except for everybody, uh you know, except for the was
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  Speaker 3: it the Giants and the Rockies. You know, I think
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  Speaker 3: they're like eleven to three against those teams, but otherwise
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  Speaker 3: are like ten twelve games under five hundred. But Rodriguez,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, as much as the wb cemen have hurt
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  Speaker 3: some pitchers and hurt some position players. Man, he strived,
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  Speaker 3: I mean he went uh you know, went nuts against
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  Speaker 3: the team USA. Pitch lights out. He got so much
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  Speaker 3: confidence I think from that tournament. Uh, this is the
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  Speaker 3: best he's pitched in a decade.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, who did you just say the Diamondbacks
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  Speaker 4: play the Potters? They stink right now too, So let's
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  Speaker 4: not let's not. Let's just not given like, oh, the
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  Speaker 4: Padres are going to beat the Diamondbacks that The Potters
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  Speaker 4: have been awful other than obviously what they lost sevenary
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  Speaker 4: in a row and four last night.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And the thing is that third wildcard spots, you know,
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  Speaker 3: wide open. But you know it's almost saying, okay, if
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  Speaker 3: you do get the third wildcard spot, you're on the
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  Speaker 3: road for you know, best the three series. If you lose,
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  Speaker 3: you don't play one home game. Are you you know,
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  Speaker 3: was it really worth it to make the playoffs when
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  Speaker 3: you didn't get the one game.
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  Speaker 1: In front of your home fans.
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  Speaker 4: Well depends on who you ask. If you ask the owners,
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  Speaker 4: they're going to say, well, yeah, it was worth it
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  Speaker 4: because look we.
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  Speaker 6: Did everything right.
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  Speaker 4: If you ask the GM, look we did everything right,
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  Speaker 4: So yes, Bob, But it all depends on who you
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  Speaker 4: ask and what you're what you're feeling is for the
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  Speaker 4: for the whole thing, what you want to the message
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  Speaker 4: you want to deliver to your fans. But there's some
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  Speaker 4: other teams that are that are interesting to me. The Orioles,
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  Speaker 4: the Astros, right, some of these teams that are on
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  Speaker 4: the outside looking in, Will they be ultra aggressive to
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  Speaker 4: try to win?
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  Speaker 6: What you just said is could be the third wildcard?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Both teams.
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  Speaker 3: Uh. You know, in the America League, I think it's
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  Speaker 3: so different. If you just get in, you got a chance.
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  Speaker 3: America League's wide open. There's no clear cut favorite. You're
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  Speaker 3: not going through the Dodgers or Billings or Atlanta. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: if you get in, you got a chance. And when
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  Speaker 3: you talk to other gams, they say, okay, a lot
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  Speaker 3: of times, who's gonna be most aggressive?
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  Speaker 1: The gms who are on the on the hot seat.
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  Speaker 1: Two gyms on a hot seat, Micha Elias and Dana Brown.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, Dana Brown's contracts up at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the season. I think they have to make them
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  Speaker 1: for him to keep his job.
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  Speaker 3: If the Oils missed out in the playoffs, you know,
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  Speaker 3: is michaelias job saved? So a lot of times, I
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  Speaker 3: think the most aggressive teams are the ones whose jobs
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  Speaker 3: are on the line.
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  Speaker 7: I'm going straight out to rife Field. If Harper and
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  Speaker 7: Schwarber both joined the home run derby, I want to
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  Speaker 7: be catching the hometown guys hitting them, So I'm going
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  Speaker 7: out to the right field kind of where I think
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  Speaker 7: I could get the best chance of catching one of
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  Speaker 7: those home runs.
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  Speaker 5: The Mariners. The Mariners made some moves last year to
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  Speaker 5: trade deadline. Does their trade deadline moves look different because
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  Speaker 5: now this year, for some reason, they stink at defense
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  Speaker 5: and they still are kind of hitting wise.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they think that hey, just our guys,
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  Speaker 3: just a guy to play better. I mean, hey, rolling
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  Speaker 3: hit sixty home runs last year. We knew that wasn't
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  Speaker 3: going to happen again, but no one thought he had
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  Speaker 3: struggled like this. But whether it's a Louis Rodriguez Rose Arena,
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  Speaker 3: on and on, it hasn't worked so far.
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  Speaker 1: But they still believe in those players. The pitching lights out.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, once again, who wants to play the Mariners
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  Speaker 3: of America League. I think they're the scariest team just
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  Speaker 3: for that rotation. They can knock off any anybody. You know,
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  Speaker 3: they're one game away from the World Series last year,
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  Speaker 3: so I think they do some tinkering, but they don't
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  Speaker 3: really need to make that, you know, big big splash.
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  Speaker 6: Bob, there's one name that we mentioned. You mentioned them
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  Speaker 6: at the beginning.
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  Speaker 4: Will the Tigers actually trade Trek School Will it happen?
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  Speaker 4: And if it does happen, will there be a revolt
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  Speaker 4: in Detroit about them ay not being able to resign
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  Speaker 4: them and beat them trading them, Because honestly, I know
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  Speaker 4: the Tigers, Oh we're close, We're still in it. But
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  Speaker 4: I mean there's still ten plus games under five hundred.
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  Speaker 4: Terrek Scooba only pitches once every five days. So will
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  Speaker 4: they actually pull the trigger on a deal like that?
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  Speaker 3: I think they wait till like the last seventy two hours.
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  Speaker 3: Aj I think they wait to the very end. If
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  Speaker 3: they're with you know, three games, maybe four, I think
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  Speaker 3: they almost have to stay in it. And they already
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  Speaker 3: have a franchise record payroll. The fans I've shown up.
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  Speaker 3: I think the fans have been so disgusted. I think
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  Speaker 3: they'd take a big hit in a tenance next season
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  Speaker 3: if they trade school Bo. And then one thing too
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  Speaker 3: is if you make the playoffs, even if it's the
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  Speaker 3: third wild card team, you got Schoolbo Ma is going
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  Speaker 3: one too. You know you got you got a shot,
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  Speaker 3: you got a chance to get to the World Series,
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  Speaker 3: just like they had a good shot last year. So
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  Speaker 3: I think they wait to the very bidder end here
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  Speaker 3: to decide what to do.
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  Speaker 5: Let's go to a team that is out of it
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  Speaker 5: and it's the Giants. You talked about in your article
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  Speaker 5: about how they want Bryce Eldred to get actual playing
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  Speaker 5: time in the field. Does that make them more inclined
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  Speaker 5: to push out one of those infield contracts to try
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  Speaker 5: to trade him or is it still just only one
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  Speaker 5: deal and that's it? And also what's changed because Bryce
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  Speaker 5: Eldred when he first got called up was a platoon
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  Speaker 5: advantage guy. They weren't even playing him against lefties.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's kind of a joke.
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  Speaker 3: Here, here's a kid twenty one years old and you're
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  Speaker 3: using him as a DH.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you're stunning his growth. It's unfair to him.
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  Speaker 1: He needs a play.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously Devers isn't moving, but a maybe Devers
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  Speaker 3: becomes a full time GH or something. I think they'll
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  Speaker 3: love to move two guys, you know, Louisa Rise. He's
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  Speaker 3: a free agent in the year anyway, so he makes
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  Speaker 3: the most sense. I mean, he's been everything they wanted more.
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  Speaker 3: Ron Washington has turned him into gorg club, his second basement.
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  Speaker 1: Now. I think they like to.
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  Speaker 3: Move by Uh, you know Matt Chapman too. You saw
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  Speaker 3: the plays that Casia Schmidt made over over the weekend.
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  Speaker 3: They like to make room. That would clear a lot
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  Speaker 3: of payroll too.
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  Speaker 1: Chapman's got a full known trade clause, so I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 3: He'd want to go back east, but maybe still stay
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  Speaker 3: out west somewhere. I think they like to move, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Chapman enter Rise and just clear some stuff out. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think anybody touches the Dominis, and I don't think
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  Speaker 3: he's gonna touch Denvers either.
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  Speaker 6: Well. Giants pivoted fast.
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  Speaker 4: Well Giants pivoted fast from being a team that was
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  Speaker 4: all in to a team that can't wait to get
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  Speaker 4: rid of everybody they'd got in the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 4: It's crazy. It's crazy how fast it still changes. All Right,
• 11:55
  Speaker 4: I got to ask you about the Empires. You heard
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  Speaker 4: about the Empires retiring seven Empires. Bucker who everyone knows
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  Speaker 4: he's famous, right, Brian o'norra, Last, das Land Sparksdale, Marvin Hudson,
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  Speaker 4: Tony Rendezo, and Andy Fletcher. Are they getting rid of
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  Speaker 4: the old Guard? Because these are all guys I know,
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  Speaker 4: Krawts knows them. These are all guys kind of Bob
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  Speaker 4: that I came up with, and I some of them
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  Speaker 4: I had in the minor league, some of them I
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  Speaker 4: had throughout my entire Major league career. Is MLB trying
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  Speaker 4: to get rid of the old guard with some of
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  Speaker 4: the new changes and some of these guys. I know
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  Speaker 4: rankings aren't great, but is this a way of kind
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  Speaker 4: of saying, hey, guys, thank you for your service.
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  Speaker 6: We're going to go to a younger crew.
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  Speaker 1: And they all volunteered for it. I guess a buyout
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  Speaker 1: package was great.
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  Speaker 3: You had to be fifty nine years old to even
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  Speaker 3: qualify for the buyout. And I think guys too are
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: worried about next year. Okay, how many games are gonna miss?
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  Speaker 3: What's her paycheck gonna look like? Let me get out
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: now before it gets into a labor war. And interesting
• 12:48
  Speaker 3: thing is so beginning in twenty twenty seven, whenever that
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: season starts, it won't be an umpire sixty years old
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  Speaker 3: or older. I can't remember that ever happening. I'm sure
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  Speaker 3: it must have happened sometime in baseball history, but certainly
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  Speaker 3: I can't remember it happy where you don't have some
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  Speaker 3: umpires in the sixties or even in the seventies. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they are trying to kind of go younger. But these
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  Speaker 3: guys are walking away in their own they're not being
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  Speaker 3: forced out there, they're jumping to buy out.
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  Speaker 5: Is this is this buyout thing a new thing because
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  Speaker 5: I haven't heard it before, but you make it sound
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  Speaker 5: like it's something that's usually offered, just not everybody takes it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was asking some umpires was the last time it
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  Speaker 1: was big?
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  Speaker 3: It said twenty twenty two, But not these many guys
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  Speaker 3: and not these.
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  Speaker 1: Many household names. So this is a big thing.
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  Speaker 3: It's almost reminds you of back when it was it
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  Speaker 3: ninety nine, you know, when they had all the umpires
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  Speaker 3: resigned with the labor thing and you know that that backfired.
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  Speaker 3: But just to see you seven big, big time guys
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  Speaker 3: like that, a lot of crew chiefs walking away. So no,
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  Speaker 3: I do think they say, you know what, it's a
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  Speaker 3: young guy's game. And I think some of these veteran
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  Speaker 3: umpires say, you know what, I'm tired of all this
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  Speaker 3: stuff going on, and with the ABS system and everything else,
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  Speaker 3: he's become a real pain. I'm not having as much fun.
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  Speaker 3: Let me, let me take my money and walk away.
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  Speaker 6: Smart, smart, Bob smart.
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  Speaker 4: Much like Rob Manford picking Bryce Harper as the Legends picker.
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  Speaker 6: Isn't that old right? He got the Legends pick?
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  Speaker 4: Is this Rob Manford saying, hey man, it's cool from
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  Speaker 4: what happened last year in the Phillies locker room, Like
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  Speaker 4: how did this pick come about? Because again I feel
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  Speaker 4: like Bryce Harper almost could have made it on his
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  Speaker 4: merits alone.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he didn't make it, didn't get the
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  Speaker 3: van ballot, didn't get the player ballot.
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  Speaker 1: But no, I that was a stroke a genius.
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  Speaker 3: Like, hey, remember when you're screaming at me last year
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  Speaker 3: about the salary gap everything else, Let's say what my
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: guy's being? Bygones, here's an homad branch. I'm the one
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: that's responsible for you coming the All Star Game? What
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: do you have to say now? So not with you,
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: I would have picked Vera Lander and Serves. You know,
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: this could be the last year's I'm not sure you
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: know both of them agreed that comes the All Star Game,
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: but I thought that would be cool for the legend.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: You know, remembers Pool Holson Cabrera back the day Kershaw
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: last year.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: It is odd to see a guy that young being picked.
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: So I do think it was a stroke of pr
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: genius to say, hey, Bryce, you're here because I picked you.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: The fans didn't pick you, the players didn't pick you,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: but I did.
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: Do you know how that process works? Could he have?
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: Could he have said no thanks? This guy came into
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: our locker room and disrespected me. I don't want this pick.
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: Or is it something that if your legends pick like you,
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: they announced it and you're told, hey, you're going.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: And I'm not sure about that answer, but I think you, uh,
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: I think you could have turned it down. We know
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: why not?
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: I mean obviously in his hometown and I was talking
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: about doing a home run derby. So I think we
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: would have been shocked that Harper wouldn't have made it.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: But unless there were some injuries, with some replacements, he
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: wouldn't have just the way the process is. I mean, actually,
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: you know the players voted Matt Olsen over Freddie Freeman.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: Was the fans that had, you know, Freeman over Olson,
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: but a I think we would have been shocked. You
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: have an All Star Game in Philadelphia without Bryce Harper? Yeah,
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: to have my first half.
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• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Oh here here's my thing, and you're and listen it.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: This doesn't really apply to to Bryce Harbor, but you
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: know there's gonna be eighty nine All Stars this year. Okay,
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: let's let's like think last year there was eighty seven
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: or some crazy number. Right, So so this doesn't apply
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: to a Bryce Harborg Orlanda or Kershaw. But when you
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: go to Hall of Fame vote and when you go
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: to salary, all Star games matter. Even though they're saying, oh,
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: they don't matter as much, it still matters when people say,
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: oh you were People say, hey, did you win a
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: World Series?
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: Were you in All Star?
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: How many times you go to the All Star game? Right,
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: So it still does matter. Has it become cheapender lesson?
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: Because there are so many All Stars that are not
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: even elected every year that just become All Stars. Vladdy
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: Guerrero has already turned it down, right, There's other guys
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: that are gonna turn it down. Buckston got hurt yesterday, right,
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: so he could miss. Misowski's already talking all having to
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: miss because he's pitching on a certain day. So has
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: it become lessened from an out I don't receieve, not
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: from all players, because it's still special for the players,
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: but maybe from an outside perspective.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: I think in outside it's almost like, you know, you
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: talk to you know, players, retired players like you know
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: you and Eric in the sense that, look, how many
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: players have played in the major leagues. Now, you know,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: it used to be you know, you know, nineteen thousand
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: up to twenty. Now it's like twenty four thousand. There's
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: so many guys that are coming up for cop of
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: coffee and then you know, you never see him again.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: You know, we never seen so many players that have
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: played just just a game or two in the major leagues.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: The All Star thing, you're right, I mean you're going
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: to get over eighty players.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: What bonthers some guys.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Like, you know, like the managers, is that if you
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: beg to be an All Star and then you back out,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: like okay, now I get my bonus. I don't want
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: to go Philadelphia. I want to get the four or
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: five days off. You know that sort of thing. I
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: know a lot of talk about Zach Wheeler, but I
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: think wheel are supposed to pitch on Sunday, so he
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: was you know, not to be able to pitch an
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: All Star game anyway, you know that sort of thing.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: But yeah, you hate to see guys back, you know,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: back out. I know I'm on.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: They say, oh, it's you know, it's a team thing
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: with Blad Guerrero, you know, walking away.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: But wait a minute, now, all those fans want to
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: see Blad in there, all the kid who want to
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: see Blad. I think he kind of want it to
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: the game to uh, you know, to be there and play.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: I surely believe he should show up. If not, don't
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: accept that All Star bonus.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: All right, So we're talking about sometimes we talk about
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: snubs around the All Star Game, and this is the
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: time and some of those guys will end up getting in.
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: Is there a way that they should change it? Because
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: all the pitchers are just starters and closers, middle relievers.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: None of those guys have gotten any love on either roster.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: Not saying they won't, but none of those guys. It's
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: only premiere position pitchers.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Yees, particularly you know the great setup guys. I mean
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: even the Aaron Ashby, he got twelve wins. It's amazing,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: could be the first reliever ever have have twenty wins.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: But yeah, the setup guys, you get lost in the
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: shuffle here and a lot of times, hey, you can't
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: be a great closure unless you have a be a
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: great set.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Up guy like Marhone of San Diego. So yeah, I
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: would like to see that change.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: And you know, not necessarily a designation, but I think
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: they made the designation because before it was, you know,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: all starters pretty much, and you just have starters pit.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: You know, let's face, after the first inning, they're all
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: pitch and relief anyway. But yeah, there's a lot of
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: guys that that should be there, you know, particularly uh,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: you know, uh, I think Wheelners deserves to go, but
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: pitching on Sunday, I can see why, you know, MMB said, well,
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: if Vicky you're not going anyway, certainly a sunny gray
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: ten and one. Unbelievable what he's done for the Red Socks.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: I still be surprised if he doesn't end up there.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: There's so many snubs. There's so many snubs you can
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: get into if you want. I mean, Michael Harris, Pryce, Terranger,
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: the list goes on, Davis Martin, the list goes on
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: and on and stuff.
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: So but no matter how many all Stars you have,
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: they will always be the.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: Next guy who's oh he should have made it, or
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: he should have it's crazy, So be happy for the
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: guys who got in and for the guys who didn't
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: get in. Hopefully you have a great first half and
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: you get in the next year. Bob with speaking of
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: the first halfs and ending poorly.
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: Right now, the.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Yankees, what is the Yankees' problems real? I know their
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: starting rotation is beat up, Judges out, Stanton's out, but
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: can they figure this out without making a move? Schalitler
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: finally got hit last time out for the first time.
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: Really in his career?
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: Are the Are the Yankees problems real? Or is this
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: just a blip in the radar? They seem to do
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: this every year around this time.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: I almost thinking we should give the MVP to a
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Aaron Judge again this year, just because look how bad
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: but valuable he is. And so I don't believe how
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: bad they are when this guy doesn't play. He covers
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: up so many flaws. But yeah, I think they should
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: be aggressive im and I think they should be very
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: aggressive and getting other late inning reliever there another bat.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: For sure, but just playing so sloppy.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: I know what Judge kind of calling them out the
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: other day, but they should be playing this poorly now
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: They have a big series against Tampa. They're not careful.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: They're gonna be about eight games out, you know, going
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: to the break talking to fucks from Tampa.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Before.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Remember, they kind of thought this would like a be
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: tooling year, you know when maybe high eighties and to
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: make the playoffs they do.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: If not, so what now?
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: I think they're gonna aggressive, like a going for guys
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: like Derek Scougle and that sort of thing, because they
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: realized this America League is so wide open.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Here's their chance to win the first World Series if
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: nobody else is gonna take it.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: All right, Well, let's go to the Phillies, a team
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: that was ten first team ever I think in baseball
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: history to be ten games under five hundred and then
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: ten games over five hundred before July. Which team are they?
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: Are they the closer to ten games over five hundred
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: or are they closer to the Rob Thompson ten games under.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: I think they're closer to what they're playing now. I
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: still think it would have happened. I'm not saying it
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: would have gone on this hot streak under Don Manningley,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: but I do believe they would have won to Rob Thompson.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I mean Thompson and Madley. Their personalities are almost identical.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: You know, they keep your brothers.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: But I think it was such a wake up call
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: to the players, like, hey, you guys just got a
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: good guy fired here. That's on you, And all of
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: a sudden, they started playing a whole lot better. By
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: the it's a scary team. They still need a right
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: hand and hitting outfielder. If they get that, maybe uh,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: you know, another reliever for the back end that bullpen,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: then I think they're set. I mean that windows tarting
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: to close a little bit in the Phillies. I think
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: this might be their last best chance to win it all.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: There have been a you know, a great team. You know,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: they almost beat the Dodgers last year, but I think
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: they've run up against the Dodgers this time. With the
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: pitching they got, particular with the Sanchez and Wheeler and Lozarno,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: I think they could scare the Dodgers of death.
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: That was my question, Bob.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: Is you mentioned the Tigers that they get in and
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: they have Schoobal and Maz and Fromber and they've be scary.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: But can you imagine having to go to a three
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: game or a five game series and you get Sanchez, Wheeler,
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: Lozardo and then whoever the fourth guy is with Deron
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: and Alverado and some of those guys at the back end, Kirkering.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: That would be a scary proposition for any team, including
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: the Dodgers.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were so close last year.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Remember they lost a Game four and the throwing air
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: by the pitcher those Game five would have been Philadelphia
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: tough place to win. So yeah, I think they're a
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: very scary team. I think they're can be very aggressive. Uh,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Dave Lebowski has always been aggressive, So I think they're going.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: To go for this thing.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: I think, you know, obviously they don't not going after
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: a get like Turks Scugle, but they got to get
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: that right hen of bats somewhere.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: They've had their scouts all over the road here the
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: last month or so, kind of watching like who's gonna
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: be a bill? But at the trade deadline, got to
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: get help here.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Well, one more thing about the Phillies will run it.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: I know they have Mattingly and he's not gonna come
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: back next year, we know that for sure. Would Alex
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: Cora still be in the mix for this job, would
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: he still be considered the front runner. We know they
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: tried to hire him as soon as he was let
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: go from Boston, but would they would he be the
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: front runner with if Mattingly decides not to come back.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's Kora's job. I really do.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: I just think he wanted to breather get paid anyway,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: step back. I mean, he would look like your genius
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: if they'd taken this job and the same record.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: As Mallian dead.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: I think the only way man they comes back is
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: you know, hey, if they win the World Series, then
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: they asked on on hey, you want to come back
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: or not? Let him be his choice. Otherwise I think, hey,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: we want Corey here. Is that all right by you?
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Anybody step away and say no, what, I'll retire anyway?
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: But no, I think it's definitely Coorra's job unless they
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: win the win the whole thing and manually wants to
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: do it, or maybe a magie thinks, you know what,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: I'll be like a John l or something.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Just walk away with my first ring. Oh that would
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: be cool. Yeah.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: I fell for him last year obviously, you know, part
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: of the Blue Jays organization getting so damn close inches
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: away multiple times. Bob good stuff, great to catch up
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: with you. We'll be chatting frequently leading up to the
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: trade deadline.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: All right, so you guys pull it Offia,