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S5 E32: Mafia Drama · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Fifteen decrease.
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  Speaker 2: You can see your breath.
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  Speaker 3: Out in the lake effect.
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  Speaker 1: Breaking tables like get O would you wherese would you
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  Speaker 1: have to be? And to Ron Elvis in the lay
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  Speaker 1: panchel the members that.
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  Speaker 3: You need to know, I don't you out here?
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  Speaker 4: Now?
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  Speaker 1: Your family? Where's would you be?
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  Speaker 3: Where's would you have be? Welcome into the Nickel City Crew.
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  Speaker 3: I am your host, Rob Crippen.
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  Speaker 2: Please like us on Facebook and follow us on Instagram
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  Speaker 2: and Twitter at Nickel City Crew. This episode, along with
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  Speaker 2: all of our episodes, are presented by Crippen Legacy Entertainment
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  Speaker 2: here on Spreaker and stream Yard. We're so glad that
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  Speaker 2: you joining us for some of your Buffalo bills and
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  Speaker 2: NFL content again today and as always, these are my
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  Speaker 2: Bill's thoughts set out loud.
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  Speaker 4: It survive so ridiculous, staying was six the show can
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  Speaker 4: let me?
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  Speaker 3: Where's would you write to be?
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's get straight to it. Really excited for
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  Speaker 2: tonight's episode. We missed you Nicol City Crew these last
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks. Some technical difficulties on my part, so
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  Speaker 2: I apologize, but I really missed you guys. And I
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  Speaker 2: was talking to my co host pre show and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, you know what, we kind of just jumped
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  Speaker 2: back in at the perfect time because little did we
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  Speaker 2: know after last Saturday that all of Bill's Mafia hell
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  Speaker 2: would break loose.
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  Speaker 3: So let's just discuss it all.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go in chronological order, and let's put a bowl
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  Speaker 2: on this thing before we hire a new head coach.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me tonight as always my co host writing shy
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  Speaker 2: Gun Adam dump Truck Rupsick. Check him out on Instagram
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  Speaker 2: and Twitter at Adam Rupsick. Are you Pete c z
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  Speaker 2: y K at the Crew DT?
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back? Click clack, we're back. Goodness, gracious man, good.
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  Speaker 1: Click back, We're back. Nickel City. How are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: Happy Friday?
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  Speaker 4: Post season first post season Friday for the Mafia and
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  Speaker 4: and us here at Nicol City Crew.
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  Speaker 1: And wow, what a week we had? What a week
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  Speaker 1: we had?
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  Speaker 4: They say, you know, when hell freeze is over, and
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  Speaker 4: it seems like hell the past week, but it's also
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  Speaker 4: about five degrees out so hell Mike throws over here
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  Speaker 4: in Buffalo because it's uh, it's serious with this temperature.
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  Speaker 4: But at the same time, you know, a brutal, brutal
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  Speaker 4: couple days for for.
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  Speaker 1: The Mafia, And yeah, there's nothing left to it but dumbpack.
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  Speaker 4: So this is truly gonna be a therapy session. Rob,
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  Speaker 4: put the money at the door, sit in the funny chair.
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  Speaker 4: We got a lot of shit to get through.
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  Speaker 3: We sure do, man, we sure do.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, it's funny because you know, every season
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  Speaker 2: when it ends, you know, there's always that disappointment when
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  Speaker 2: you don't reach the ultimate goal.
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  Speaker 3: And obviously we didn't again this year.
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  Speaker 2: But there's a lot to talk about in respects to it,
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  Speaker 2: from everything from last Saturday on.
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  Speaker 3: So let's let's just go at it in chronological order.
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  Speaker 2: Since we missed Nicol City Crew, we missed you guys
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  Speaker 2: this last couple of weeks. DT Saturday, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: season comes to an end in dramatic fashion thirty three
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  Speaker 2: ten in overtime. And I wanted to get your thoughts
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  Speaker 2: on it because I've got some very pointed thoughts about it,
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  Speaker 2: and I've been doing my spiring sessions on Twitter for
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  Speaker 2: sure since last Saturday. I wanted to get yours first
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  Speaker 2: because I don't want to put words in your mouth
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  Speaker 2: or anything like that, But what what were your.
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  Speaker 3: Takeaways from that game?
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  Speaker 2: Because boy, that was that was a tough pill to
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  Speaker 2: swallow for a multitude of reasons, and I know that
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  Speaker 2: we'll get into to them tonight.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think the bullet point reactions from that game
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  Speaker 4: were heartbreaking.
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  Speaker 1: M familiar. Yeah seventeen finally got.
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  Speaker 2: His Yeah, okay, okay, what do you mean by that?
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  Speaker 2: You mean like chickens coming.
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  Speaker 4: In and the fact of we have it in all
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  Speaker 4: these heartbreaking fashions, all these losses through the years, everything
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  Speaker 4: we've gone through. You really can't pin it down on
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  Speaker 4: one seven. I think Saturday there was a lot of things.
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  Speaker 4: But when you are the face of a franchise and
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  Speaker 4: play like that, you take the blame. And he does
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  Speaker 4: take the blame. It's nobody's questioning that by any means.
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  Speaker 4: But this was his first one out of this cycle
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  Speaker 4: of heartbreaking defeats that we can point to him on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's it's solely on him in respects
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  Speaker 2: to the offensive performance, for sure, And I definitely echo that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, one of the things that I was arguing
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  Speaker 2: with the most with Bills Mafia Met members this week
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  Speaker 2: was that, you know a lot of people were lamenting that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, catch no catch and that kind of thing,
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  Speaker 2: and talking about the bills got screwed and and I
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  Speaker 2: don't think I know that it is a defense mechanism
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  Speaker 2: DT it it.
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  Speaker 3: Helps you cope, it helps you make you feel better.
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  Speaker 2: I know that I was on other space with She'd
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  Speaker 2: the day after the game, so this is before the
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  Speaker 2: news came down about the head coach, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: I was explaining that, like, it's a coping mechanism. It
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  Speaker 2: makes you feel better to be able to point to
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  Speaker 2: something that was out of your control, so to speak, Well,
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  Speaker 2: the refs screwed us, and the refs have it out
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  Speaker 2: for us, and this and that. I just don't buy
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  Speaker 2: that type of stuff. I'm never going to be in
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  Speaker 2: a situation where I blame the refs. It's going to
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  Speaker 2: be very very rare for me because of the fact
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  Speaker 2: that there's death. There's rarely a chance where an opportunity
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  Speaker 2: where there's just literally one call or two calls that
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  Speaker 2: were made that went against you and that decided the
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  Speaker 2: entire game. Most of the time, there's a sequence of
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  Speaker 2: events of different things that you could control beforehand. And
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  Speaker 2: I think that the fact that seventeen turned the ball
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  Speaker 2: over five four times, five times on the offense with
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  Speaker 2: that Jimbo fumble in the first quarter. I think that
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  Speaker 2: there's really nowhere to hide on this one.
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  Speaker 3: DT.
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  Speaker 2: For me, blaming the refs is kind of it's just
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  Speaker 2: kind of lame to me. It's kind of corny. I've
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  Speaker 2: said it all we long when I'm sparring with some
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  Speaker 2: of Bill Mafia members who wanted to to kind of
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  Speaker 2: use that as a crutch.
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  Speaker 3: DT.
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  Speaker 2: You are not supposed to win any games if you
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  Speaker 2: turn the ball over five times. Now, you might beat
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  Speaker 2: a team that's really shitty, like the Jets or something
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  Speaker 2: like that, and you might get lucky five turnovers in
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  Speaker 2: a game, you're supposed to lose that game almost every time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're also not supposed to take them to
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  Speaker 4: overtime and you know, and be in the game and
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  Speaker 4: really have the lead late and have a chance to win,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and and and all those things that the
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  Speaker 4: Bill still did. You're not supposed to do those things either, right,
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  Speaker 4: So that's what makes it maddening. Mm hm. Yes, of course,
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  Speaker 4: of course those things shouldn't happen, but they did, and
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  Speaker 4: then we were still in it with a chance to
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  Speaker 4: win it, with the lead at the end. I mean, yes,
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  Speaker 4: it's sought to blame, and it is a crutch, because
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  Speaker 4: what are you gonna do, Like even if they come
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  Speaker 4: out and say the call is wrong, it's it's Friday
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  Speaker 4: and we're not playing this week.
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  Speaker 1: It don't matter, you know, if the if the call
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  Speaker 1: is right or wrong, but.
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  Speaker 4: It is I think okay to say that that was bullshit,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like that that like come on, like out
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  Speaker 4: of all these things of you know, especially that exact
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  Speaker 4: the catch and it happening you know twice the next
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  Speaker 4: day and you know, being called on the other end
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  Speaker 4: and everything like that is just like how do you
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  Speaker 4: keep up with that? And that feeling of Buffalo always
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  Speaker 4: getting screwed is somewhat true in that of like it
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  Speaker 4: never just happens with us, right. The only time I
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  Speaker 4: can ever remember it happening with us was two years
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  Speaker 4: ago the Chiefs regular season game when they called the
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  Speaker 4: offensive off sides and Mahomes was crying to you know
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  Speaker 4: during the handshake line, Like, I can't remember any other
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  Speaker 4: time that we got a questionable call and it went
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  Speaker 4: our way and helped decide the game.
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  Speaker 1: It's always against us.
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  Speaker 4: So I think that's why it's a it's to go
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  Speaker 4: there and be and feel like that because it happens
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  Speaker 4: to us all too often. And you know whether the
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  Speaker 4: catch was or the phantom p I calls and they
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  Speaker 4: might have been pis at whatever call him at that
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  Speaker 4: point in the game.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't call the cooks what YadA YadA YADDI.
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  Speaker 4: All that is true, and BS and the officiating crew
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  Speaker 4: should be reprimanded for this. And you know, I'm so
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  Speaker 4: sick of this Gene s terotor in the booth and
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  Speaker 4: all these people that like are on the analyst because
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  Speaker 4: what does it matter what they say, they're not the
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  Speaker 4: rest of the game. Like, So I don't want to
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  Speaker 4: hear your freaking opinion about it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't matter me what you're telling me to explain
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  Speaker 4: the rule because it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't matter what you say.
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  Speaker 4: So I think, yes, I agree you can't use it
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  Speaker 4: as a crutch, But I also stand with Mafia that
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  Speaker 4: it was BS man and it does happen to us
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  Speaker 4: way too often, and it never is them deciding a
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  Speaker 4: game to help us. It's always the game getting decided
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  Speaker 4: against us. And so I feel that, but agree you
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  Speaker 4: can't put Saturday's loss on the rest it is BS
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  Speaker 4: and and I don't agree with any of those calls,
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  Speaker 4: but you can't put the loss on it, you know,
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  Speaker 4: with the with the reality of turning the ball over
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  Speaker 4: five times.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that the one of the juxtaposition of
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  Speaker 2: the fact that we were still in the game is
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  Speaker 2: one of the most maddening things about it, DT is
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  Speaker 2: the fact that you have this all world quarterback who
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  Speaker 2: simultaneously puts you you know, he puts it, takes you
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  Speaker 2: out of the game, and then he keeps you in
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  Speaker 2: the game all at the same time. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that that's one of the juxtapositions that makes and drives
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  Speaker 2: us crazy because we don't really know as a as
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  Speaker 2: a fan base how to deal with that, because it's
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  Speaker 2: it's really hard to grasp that, like.
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  Speaker 3: This dude keeps sucking up. You know.
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  Speaker 2: The the fumble before the half was was huge, Like
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  Speaker 2: that's a huge swing in the game, you know. And
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  Speaker 2: then he's still keeping us in the game, and he's
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  Speaker 2: making some great throws and different things.
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  Speaker 3: Like that, but he was also offering some throws.
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  Speaker 2: He's missing knocks for a potential walk off touchdown, and
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  Speaker 2: he misses Shakir for a potential touchdown where he skips
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  Speaker 2: the ball on the ground. So to me, it's it's
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  Speaker 2: crazy because he does both like he you know, Saturday
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  Speaker 2: was like a doctor Jekyl mister high performance in its finest,
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  Speaker 2: like he was he was right there to help us,
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  Speaker 2: and then he was right there to hurt us.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that.
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  Speaker 4: That's it's the it's the exaggeration on both ends. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: those turnovers and the misthrows are like the worst that
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  Speaker 4: could be, and then he pulls out you know some
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  Speaker 4: throws that are like that throw to Kincaid for the touchdown,
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  Speaker 4: like that was one of his best. Like then he's
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  Speaker 4: on the totally opposite end of this. It's not even
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  Speaker 4: like in the middle. It's it's all the way bad
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  Speaker 4: or all the way good, like he's worse than anybody,
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  Speaker 4: or he's better than anybody. Like his spectrum is incredibile.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, I agree, it's it's maddening. It's maddening.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's funny because you know when you
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  Speaker 2: look at it, like I said, you know, and he
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  Speaker 2: and he you were absolutely right. He stood up, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and everybody in Bill's mafia saw his reaction after the game,
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  Speaker 2: and and how you know, emotional he was, and then
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  Speaker 2: he heard how you know, when Dion Dawkins heard that
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  Speaker 2: Josh you know, putting it on him, and then he
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  Speaker 2: starts to get emotional because of that.
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  Speaker 3: You could tell that, you know, it was really hurting him.
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  Speaker 2: And then I think that he knew the sense that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the responsibility that he carried for that for
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  Speaker 2: some of those mistakes that he made.
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  Speaker 3: And that kind of leads into it.
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  Speaker 2: DT because you know, Saturday goes by, you know, Saturday night,
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  Speaker 2: and we're all dejected, and then Sunday goes by and
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  Speaker 2: you're just kind of trying to come to grips with
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  Speaker 2: this whole thing, and then Monday the bombshell comes. And
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  Speaker 2: one of the things that you know, really struck me
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  Speaker 2: was the fact that when that press conference started, I
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  Speaker 2: mean I was like literally waiting.
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  Speaker 3: I was, you know, they said it was gonna be
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  Speaker 3: ten o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: I was tuned in, ready to go, getting ready to
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  Speaker 2: go to work, and you know, I was making sure
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  Speaker 2: and I think they came on just a little bit
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  Speaker 2: early and I wanted to hear every word. And as
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  Speaker 2: bad as it was, there were a couple of things
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  Speaker 2: in there that I did take away from it that
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  Speaker 2: you know that I think that we can glean into
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  Speaker 2: Terry Pegola a little bit. So Bill's Mapia unless you've
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  Speaker 2: been under rock you all know, because that's all that
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  Speaker 2: we've been talking about this entire week since Saturday. Monday,
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  Speaker 2: we fired Sean McDermott, and when they let us know
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  Speaker 2: that they fired him and why. On the Monday press
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  Speaker 2: conference DT, you know, Pagoula talks about walking in the
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  Speaker 2: locker room and he talks about seeing the players dejected
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  Speaker 2: a josh, you know, crying and and different things like that,
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  Speaker 2: and then he just talked about how he felt like he.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he just couldn't do it anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Now here at Nicol City Crew, we've already been on
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  Speaker 2: this same wave leg for since, you know, since you know,
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  Speaker 2: since thirteen seconds. We've at least me, I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 2: put words in your mouth, but I've been I've been
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  Speaker 2: done with it since the thirty teen seconds. And because
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  Speaker 2: of that, I wasn't shocked when I found out the
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  Speaker 2: news that they had fired him, but I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: hear the explanation why. And when I heard that, it
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  Speaker 2: was because of the fact that it wasn't the game.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I think that there's been this national I
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  Speaker 2: hate when the national I can't stay when the national
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  Speaker 2: media picks up a story but they don't really listen
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  Speaker 2: the Steve D. Smith's and all the talking heads. And
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  Speaker 2: I heard Nick Wright. I had to turn him off
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  Speaker 2: today when I was listening to his show. You know all,
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  Speaker 2: well he fired you know he fired him based on
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  Speaker 2: the Denver game.
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  Speaker 3: No, he did not.
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  Speaker 2: It was the cumulative He literally said thirteen seconds and
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  Speaker 2: then the catch and you know what I mean. He
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  Speaker 2: talked about all the different cumulive effects that all the
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  Speaker 2: scars that we've been feeling. And that was one thing
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  Speaker 2: that I did take away from it was that I
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  Speaker 2: think that Terry Pegoula finally hit that wall where he
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  Speaker 2: was like, holy shit, like we keep doing the same
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  Speaker 2: thing and I can't do this anymore to my team.
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  Speaker 3: We need a different voice.
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  Speaker 2: That was something that did stick with me and something
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  Speaker 2: that I actually I could, I could sympathize with because
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  Speaker 2: I've been feeling.
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  Speaker 3: That for quite some time DT, as you already know
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  Speaker 3: me personally.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the one thing I took out of that
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  Speaker 4: press conference that you know, I can I can stand
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  Speaker 4: behind of and you know understand, And that was my
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  Speaker 4: knee jerk reaction on Saturday night, Rob was exactly that
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  Speaker 4: we need somebody in here that doesn't know what this
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  Speaker 4: current feeling feels like.
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  Speaker 1: And then when he repeated.
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  Speaker 4: That in the press conference, that was like, Yep, that's
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  Speaker 4: exactly what I was saying, you know, they we need
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  Speaker 4: somebody in here that doesn't know what this pain is
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  Speaker 4: because eventually that's the message. The message Sean McDermott gets
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  Speaker 4: up at the you know, in the mini camps and
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  Speaker 4: addresses the team for the year and this is our goals,
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  Speaker 4: these are our expectations. This is how we do things.
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  Speaker 4: This is Buffalo caliber, whatever it is, this is how.
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  Speaker 1: We do it. And then boom boom boom. Now we're
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  Speaker 1: in this game.
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  Speaker 4: I stand before you and I'm motivating you and telling
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  Speaker 4: you how we're gonna win this game. And then we
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  Speaker 4: lose in heartbreaking fashion. And then the next year the
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  Speaker 4: same thing happens and we lose in heartbreaking fashion. And
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  Speaker 4: then this year he stands up in front of the
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  Speaker 4: team in Denver and then they lose in heartbreaking fashion.
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  Speaker 1: So when does it get to you know where the team, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: they respect him.
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  Speaker 4: I think we saw that obviously clearly as the players
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  Speaker 4: you know, upset that, you know, the coach was gone.
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  Speaker 4: I think he was very well liked and a respected coach,
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  Speaker 4: and he was a great coach, probably one of the best,
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  Speaker 4: you know, in in the NFL. Definitely one of the
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  Speaker 4: best in Buffalo Bill's history. But when does that message
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  Speaker 4: just kind of go on deaf years And I'm not
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  Speaker 4: saying the team's like, ah, yeah, whatever, coach, screw that.
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  Speaker 1: Like you said that last year, we got killed. Like
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  Speaker 1: it's just naturally.
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  Speaker 3: Not there anymore.
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  Speaker 1: And you can only get up and do the trust
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  Speaker 1: the process and do that and then lose in this way.
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  Speaker 1: This is it now, this is what happens. This is
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  Speaker 1: what you do.
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  Speaker 4: And it's probably went a little too long as we
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: as we you know, kind of concluded to And I
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: was definitely more of an optimist in the situation. And
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: you know, but I I stand behind this firing because
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: of that exact reason. We need a different vibe check
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: in this, We need a different face. We needed We
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: can't have the face of the franchise be known for
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: gut wrenching losses, right, so we need to as as
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: your coach. And so I think that was the thing
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: I took that I agree with now. When they did
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: fire him, originally I went right back to the Stefan
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: Diggs mindset of when that happened. Okay, this ship just
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: went down. It doesn't make a ton of sense. But
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: they must have a plan then, right they They were
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: thinking about this, all right, if he doesn't do it
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: this year, we're gonna move on from him.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Here's our plan to move forward.
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: And that pres conference said everything opposite of that that
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: they there was.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: Really it was a knee jerk reaction.
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: He went in there and felt it and walked out
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: of that locker room and made the decision.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: And so that I was like, you buy that, You
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: buy that that that that's what he do you. I
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: think that this had to be planned a little bit.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: I think it was definitely planned a little bit for sure.
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: Now the rumors, rumors are coming out about, you know,
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: the strife internally between him and Beat and what what
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: whatever the case is with with that and getting players
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: and not and all that coming up, And you know,
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: I get that too. I understand the strife of you
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: know too, in the most the biggest pressure cooker, the
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: most competitive industry you know, in the world, and you
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: are continuously successful but also continuously not getting there and
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: the pressure is building and building and building. Obviously, you
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: know there's there's gonna be a time where you hit
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: a crossroads, and I think that was probably this year
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: with the distancing between being in McDermott because of that.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: But you know, I think it definitely was planned it.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: You know, obviously, if they're in the ANFC Championship this week,
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: he's not fired. If they lose the sc Championship, I
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: don't know. I can't firmly say, you know, it would be,
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: but if this was kind of the deal, obviously it would.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: But I definitely echo that of like we need nothing,
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: it's really not.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: It's it's business. It's not personal. It's it's straight business
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: of we.
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: Need a new VOD check and you know, it's it's
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: not always a successful move, but you know, just specifically
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: here in Buffalo, you you fire Ken Dorsey for not
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: his fault, you know, twelve minute on the field in
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: Denver on that Monday night, and they rattle off, you know,
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: they rattle off the next six wins and get the
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: two seed. You fire Kevin Adams and we're one of
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: the best teams in the NHL. After that and he
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: didn't change anything on there. He didn't you know, move
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: anything around in that right.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: You know cloud, you know this is cloud and.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: This is the same type of vibe. Right, Like losing
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: Sean McDermott, we lose a lot. But is that dark
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: cloud more important than what he brings as a as
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: a head football coach?
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: And I think that was the pros and cons they
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: had to deal with. And I sit here today and
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: I stand behind the firing. I'm getting pick a little
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: pissed off at Bill's mafia, like I get you can.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: You can get upset about, you know, the press conference
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: and the dysfunction and all this and a team that
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: we lived our whole lives in this bullshit and then
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: it got tight for ten years and we okay, we
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: got it organized. We don't have intern you know, like
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: even if it is beef, it's internal. That's why the
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: dig stuff was so like, you know, eye opening, because
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: that was the only drama we saw in ten years.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: And now in the last seventy two hours, it was
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: all hell broke loose and it looks sloppy and you
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: feel uneasy, and those scars from the drought start to
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: pop back up. And you're like, damn, are we gonna
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: go down this road again? Very true, but all these
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: like petitions about bringing them back and all this like
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: shut the fuck up. Yeah yeah, y'all were on firing
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: Sean McDermott, depending on whatever mood it was. After that
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: Philly game that went to overtime and regular season, after
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: anything else, you are all on to fire Sean McDermott.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: We've been on the show as critical as you can
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: be of the somebody we have for three four years.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: So like, he's not a bad coach. I think he
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: brings a lot to this team, but.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: He's not a martyr either. He's not a minor. Like
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: get it again.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: It had to happen, and it did happen. So now
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: we need to move forward.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: And I do disagree with the message of goold and
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: being on how they move forward. All they had to
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: do was stand up there on that microphone and say
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: we made the decision. We we know we have the
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: best quarterback in the world. We're gonna work to get
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: them weapons, We're gonna try to get better. This new
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: coach is gonna come in. It's gonna be a new age.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: We're going to the super Bowl Boom love it, see
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: you seeing See in the spring seeing Mini Camp.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: But instead they they kind of threw up over the place.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: And yeah, and before now before we get to some
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: of the stuff, and we can quickly go over some
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: of the stuff that that we didn't like about.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: It, And it's in that same vein DT.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: The second thing that I took from it that I
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: liked about it was what I've talked about for years
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: and you know, and you will back me up on this,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: was that it's okay to raise your expectations. And we
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: talked about that to build Mafia and Nichol City Crew
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: on this show years ago. And when he made the
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: comment and said what is success and he's and he
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: plainly said his success just going to the playoffs and
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: being you know, in these kind of you know situations
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: where you're making the playoffs every year seven years in
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: a row. He said, it's that success. And people were
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: talking about how he got cut off. I knew exactly
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: where he was going with it. I didn't need him
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: to finish it, and I loved it because of the
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: fact that that's that's been my whole message for years,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: is that you know what I mean, I wanted to
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: know just Terry, you know, we had an old episode
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: like is Terry okay?
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: With just being okay?
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: That was the first time that I got confirmation from
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: him from up top the hot writes to check that, like,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: you know what, okay is just not okay anymore, and
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: like good enough is not good enough anymore. And that
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: was the second thing that I took from it that
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: I actually appreciated because of the fact that I've been
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: waiting to hear that. I've been waiting to be confirmed
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: on that because I I dreaded the fact that I
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: thought that my owner was just you know, complacent. We
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: talked about turning the car around and what it was
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: gonna take and is it gonna take Josh Allen going
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: to UH to the front office and voicing his displeasure.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: What was it gonna take for him to realize it?
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Now we know that it was gonna take another gut
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: wrenching loss for him to finally get to that point.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: But I do think that it was something that was
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: playing now uh.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: DT so some of the stuff before we go to
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: the head coaching stuff and we've got a transition, we've
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: gotta we do have to pay uh you know, it's
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: it's right due.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: To it's it's just due to the fact that I mean,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: it was that that was debacle.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: And and here's one of the things that I'm I'm
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I'm a little concerned about is that I don't I
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: don't know if I trust Brandon Bean. You know, now
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: we don't know all the inner workings and stuff like that.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: But that whole Keyon Coleman shit was unnecessary. It was unprofessional.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: I thought that, I mean, Keon's catching strays, you know,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I mean for nothing, he didn't do anything in respects
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: that he wasn't there to defend himself. I thought that
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: that was completely bush league, and I didn't like the
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: tone that it set because what Pagoula thought he was
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: doing was trying to save his GM. But his G
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: like the GM is is he's verse. He's adverse to
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: talking to the media. He knows how to how to
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: communicate to the media, and exactly up and let this
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: guy do his job. But don't try to step in
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: and cut him off and say, well, this wasn't his
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: pick and it'd been blaming.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I don't want you to play the blame game.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: And I didn't like it as soon as I heard that,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I was on Twitter like, oh, here comes the blame game,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: because I thought that there was there's some dissension in
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: the ranks. And I understand that we talked about it
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: a little bit that McDermott was dropping like breadcrumbs, like
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: you know, talking talking a little shit here, and and
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: do you like, you know, do you think you have
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: a super Bowl caliber roster? Being says yes, McDermott says,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I love my guys. Well you're not really answering the
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: fucking question. Then you know he's dropping stuff. As soon
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: as we're getting ready for the matchup with Jacksonville, he
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: wants to praise and sing the praises of you know
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: what I mean of Jacoby Myers.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Right at the trade deadline, he's talking about you know,
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: what do you want?
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: He's like, that's not my thing, you know, like that's
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: being you know what I mean, Like I tell him
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: what I need, But that's him. You could tell that
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: that McDermott was frustrated by the roster and and we
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: are as well, like I don't I'm not mad at
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: him about that because we were frustrated with the roster.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: The roster's not good enough. I didn't like that they
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: were trying to kind of dry snitch on him and
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: throw him under the bus. I didn't I didn't really
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: appreciate that. I didn't need that from them on that
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: press conference.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we it was very tone deaf, right like we
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: you know, it was a sensitive subject and yeah, if
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: you would, I stand behind the firing.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: But I also respect Sean McDermott a hell of a lot.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: And I don't think he you know, he doesn't deserve
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: to get drugged by any means. This is again strictly business,
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: like nothing nothing else but business here, and they made
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: it personal, right like it was business, and they made
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: it personal, and that's not the way to to to
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: do things in this professional workforce, no matter what, you know,
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: what the business is. And I agree, I felt like
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: they needed to prove that it was one side or
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: the other.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: And you know, and so that also tells me that.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: It was a little hot in there, right, it was
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: a little hot in the They wouldn't have they wouldn't
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: have come out and trying to defend themselves so aggressively
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: if they if if everything was kind of cool with
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Sean and like, yeah, they had some disagreements and then
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: they made this decision to move on. I don't think
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: it was cool, right because they came out ready to go,
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: like ready to fight for themselves on this, like, yeah,
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: we weren't happy with Sean and then we let him go,
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: and now everyone's pissed, and now we're gonna we're gonna
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: tell you why it wasn't you know, we did pick
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: the right guy to let go. So you felt they played,
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: you know, they played some cards that the public shouldn't
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: see and that that's sloppy, and this organization hasn't been
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: sloppy in a long time, so seeing that is is
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: definitely concerning, seeing that they don't have a grasp on
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: the volume. Like they were surprised that that press conference
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: was kind of hot, you know, they.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Were surprised, like they felt like, yes, they were.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Just gonna sit up there and like that they didn't
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: just lose for the eight time in a row in
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: heartbreaking fashion and then fire the coach that did all
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: this for the last eight years and they just like
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: another season ending press.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Conference, Like they came in there like not prepared whatsoever.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: And that you know, concern that concerns me to the
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: fact that they don't have the finger on the pulse,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: so like so they don't when everyone is bitch, do
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: they know we need a receiver?
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Then do they know?
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: Like they do they know these things like and and
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: that's like that's the concerning part where I come from.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: But yeah, definitely not okay to to roll Sean like
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: that didn't deserve it at all. Again, moved on strictly
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: business and they made it personal, which shows me that
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: they're sloppy. They're playing too many cards that we shouldn't see,
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: and they had to make it a point to defend themselves.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: And that's just that. It's a it's a making of
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: showing me that's.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Not stable and I don't want to keep going in
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: the future with people that aren't stable, right, So that's
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: it's concerning.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it is a little bit, you know, and
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: being you know, wanted to kind of sit there and
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: thump his chest and talk about you know, when they
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: insinuated that he was kind of, you know, trying to
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: ride the coattails and be a little bit slick, and
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: he you know, he wants all my wife's cry and
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: what she here, you know, and like I don't give
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: a fuck about any of that ship, like I don't
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: care about any of that, Like I, this is professional sports,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: and tell her not to come to the facility. Then
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: if she's gonna be calling, you know what I mean,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: keep her keep her at home. Yeah, I didn't like that.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: A lot of people thought that he's being a little
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: bit disingenuous with with some of the things that's been
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: going on.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: So listen, you're absolutely right.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: It is business and it's a situation where I feel like,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: you know, it needed to happen.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: It had to happen.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: It was time, it was overdue in my book, So
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: it is what it is now as we transition tonight's episode, listen,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: all season long, we really appreciate uh Queen City vantage.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: We really do our our buddies over there, Nick and Guy,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: like they listen. They they have been hooking us up
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: with the giveaways every season. They're making sure that they're
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: hooking us up and giving us some good slag to
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: give out. And it was really cool this year to
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: be honest, just personally for me to see those guys
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: live and in person down here and Charlotte, you guys
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: came to my city that I live in now, and
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: I mean Buffalo is always my home, but I live
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: in Charlotte and they they showed the love. We had
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: the great pop up event DT that you were here
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: part of as well. So just shout out to Queen
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: City Visits. Check them out Queen City Vintage.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Listen. They've got a great storefront. I'm on Elmwood across
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: some forty thieves. Check them out.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: They still got all the Buffalo bills and Buffalo Sabers.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Now the Sabers gear is in vogue again. They got
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: the you know, goat head stuff, all that shit that
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: you need, They've got it for you. Please check them
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: out because they're gonna hook you up. And they really
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: have hooked up Nicol City Crew all season long. So
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: we really appreciate them DT as we transition, you know.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: So we turned the page and you are absolutely right
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: about Like I saw like fifty thousand people signed, and
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I'm like, are you guys fucking with me? Like I'm
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: on Twitter and I'm like I can't tell them about
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: being punk right now. I'm like, what, like, have some respect,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: have some self respect, Like what do you think you
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: think you're gonna sign a petition?
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: And then Terry Bagula is gonna say oh man, you
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: know what, I may have made a mistake.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and re sign you know, Sean McDermott,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: like get the fuck out, like he's not doing that
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: and you shouldn't even want to be in that court
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: like him as flowers. That's fine if you want to
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: give him his flower. I've given him his flowers enough
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: when he deserved him in his moments. I said, I'll
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: stand on it. This was his best year coaching wise,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: based on what he was given and the injuries that
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: he had to ender.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: But in the end it still didn't get done.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: So nine years is a long time and nine cracks
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: at the kicks at the can that's a long time.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: So Bill's mafi, can we just can we quit with.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: This ship with the whole I understand that you guys
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: feel that he was disrespected and and the presser came
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: out and they said they said admirable job, which he
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: doesn't really do it just as anyway, and then they
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: spelled admiral.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: It may just look like like dummies, but just like
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: let it go, like he's gone, He's going to find
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: another job whenever he's ready for another one. Like it's Okay,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: he's a big boy, he's a grown up. He's getting
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: paid millions of dollars.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: It's okay.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: I that kind of left a little bit of a
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: taste in my mouth, DT, because now I've got half
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: of Bill's mafia on Twitter, and I know that you've
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: seen it on your spaces as well, where they're they're
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: talk just you know, McDermot didn't deserve this and this
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: and that and this, just like yo, guys, nine chances,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: like nine chances.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Like what else do I what else do you have
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: to say? This is pro sports. It is getting it
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: is getting a little.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Result for a result driven Yeah, result driven as it gets.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Man, you win or you die.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: You win or you die, like and and that's all
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: it is, you know, that's all it is.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: You win or you die. It was his time to die.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: And I agree, like and.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: It's like if he if we didn't have five turnovers
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: and it was just another like one of those playoff
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: games where we just couldn't get off the field on
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: third down, which we couldn't by the way, on that
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: last drive two third and tens converted.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: You know, we preached discipline and.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: Everything, and we turned the ball over five times we
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: get dumbass penalties Lario Genobi jumping off sides on a
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: fumble recovery like a bunch of shit that is uncharacteristic
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: of what we were built and preached on.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: And we can't get off the field.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: On third down and you know on the final run
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: to in regulation when they scored the touchdown and in
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: overtime obviously, so it you know, if it did wasn't
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: five turnovers and we lost again, then everyone's like, oh,
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: Sean mcgermay needs to like it was so each day
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: was like different.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: If they won, we love Sean mcderhmam. If they lose,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: we need to fire him.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: There was no so like don't come at me like
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: your some like you're so sad for this dude, you
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: know because he because he got fired from a National
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Football League team that can't do it like he isn't
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: he it wasn't doing his job to completion and we
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: gave him this long to do it and he didn't
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: do it, so we fired him like that's it, Like
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: that's it, And yeah, I agree Bill's mafia. That side
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: of Bill's mafia's pissing me off. If you're on Nicol
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: City Crew and you're a part of that. I'm calling
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: you out. That's bullshit.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Quit with this. We got to start focusing on the future.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: As we do focus on the future and we start
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: to transition. You know, it's funny because when they talked
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: about it today, maybe maybe chuckle because you know, they said, well,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: you know, are you looking for offense defense or whatever
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: the case may be, And you know, Bean says it's
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: going to be an exhaustive approach and they don't have
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: any preferences, nobody. They don't have a you know, a
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: candidate list or thing like that ahead of time. And
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: then to get the news today about Philip Rivers was
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: just funny. So to run it down for Bill's mafia
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: if you don't know, just I know, sometimes people are
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: just unplugged on the actual minutia of it. But we
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: have interviewed a bunch of guys already, and Joe Brady
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: was interviewed two days ago on Wednesday, the same thing
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: for Brian Dable yesterday. Okay, lou An Rumo, the Indianapolis
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: coachs defense coordinator who was the long time Cincinnati Bengals
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: defensive coordinator, was interviewed.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Yesterday as well.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: They've got scheduled interviews coming up for Mike McDaniel, which
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: I actually like. You know, I like him. I know
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: he's quirky and stuff like that, but you know what
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, I do, I do like him. So he's
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: coming up tomorrow. They're actually going down, they said, to
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Florida to see him.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Philip Rivers tomorrow as well.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: And then you've got Anthony Lynn, the former Bill's interim
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: coach that was after Rex was fired. So he's gonna
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: get a chance on I think it's Sunday. I think
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: he gets an opportunity. No, no, that's tomorrow than Anthony Weaver,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins defensive coordinator as well. Then they're gonna
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: finish it up on Sunday with Grant Yudinsky, who is
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: a new name. He's thirty years old, one of these
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: young whopoper snappers. He's the Jacksonville Jaguarskoski.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: DT. I mean, he's like they said, he's like four
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: months older than Josts. I'm like, I don't know if
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: that's gonna work.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: So, uh, DT, who is your early clubhouse favorite?
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Do you have one?
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I know that a lot of people have talked about
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Clint Kubiak, we've got to wait now for the super
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Bowl to be over, or see what happens this weekend
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: if you want an opportunity to interview him.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Is there a leader in the clubhouse for you? Uh?
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Anybody that you're leaning towards?
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Anything like that, because I think you already know what
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, but I was interested to know what
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: you what you thought?
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been through I've been through it a little
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: bit this week. I originally, you know, went with the obvious,
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: like all right, young, offensive, right, young, offensive, That's where
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: I want to go. And then looking into it, it's like, hey,
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: you know, well I get the the one piece, you know,
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: I that if we didn't go that route, I argue with,
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: you bring somebody in that isn't you just bring a
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: new coordinator in and they're good in two years, they're
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: going to get a head coach job. If they come
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: in and they're good and you're your head coach, they're staying,
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: So I get that piece of it, right, But.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: I was also thinking, Okay, well, then some of these
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: guys might not get head coaching looks that I want
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: as ROC. Then you know, when Joe Brady leaves whatever,
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: if Dable's not getting any head coaching looks anywhere, right,
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: So if he's not gonna be a head coach, come
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: in a ROC and then get one of these dudes.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: That like I need, I need. I thought I needed
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: somebody like cause I was not hurt from Sean McDermott.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: But.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: He he did have respect to the locker room, like
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: the team, you know, so you need like somebody that like,
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: you know, has that type of like vibe to him,
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: and that Brian Flores kept popping into my head from
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: from Minnesota, like come in, have commanded them, you know,
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: and then we can bring somebody fun like a like
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: a day Ball or you know, McDaniel and is oc Well.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: As the week kind of rolls, that changes a little bit.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: I think we definitely probably got to go offensive minded.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: I'm who who I think they're gonna hire is Dayball.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: I think Terry Pagola is predictable. Terry is I've done
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: this a thousand times, right, like a thousand times. But
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: he brings back Lindy Rough. He he brings Kevin Adams
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: in because he knew him. We're bringing in, you know,
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: We're bringing Gabe Davis and Jordan Poyer, you know, back
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: like we're it's what one Buffalo does. Like, I think
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: they are gonna hire Dable, I can see it. I
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: really don't put a lot into his stock, like not
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: being successful in New York. He was a Coach of
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: the Year year one and you know, quarterbacking tough. I
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: get it, he lost his shit a few times on
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: the side, Okay, but like he didn't have Josh Allen. Right,
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: none of these dudes have ever had Josh Allen. So like,
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: I'm not really looking at their past and like critiquing
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: them too much on it.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: It's like, who can leave this team? I think Dave
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Ball definitely could.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: He has the relationships, he has that fire, he will
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: demand respect.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I think he can definitely do it.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, I also get like why he
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: wasn't getting head coaching interviews because what he did it
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: kind of showed he wasn't ready to be the head coach,
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: but from an organization that was turning, from an organization
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: that was burning in the biggest media market in the world. Right,
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: So like it's tough. Mike McDaniel, I like his mind.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: I would love to see the layups he could create
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: for Josh and we bitched and bitched for years that
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: we don't get any layups. And now he would come
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: in and you guarantee we're in layup lines a couple
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: of games a year. But can he overtake the entire team?
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: And that was the problem in Miami when things started
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: not to go well.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: He wasn't a leader of men, seems like, right. So
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: he also had Tua.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: And like they it looked like he was on teetering
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: before blowing up and got him.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: He got him to come back in, so, you know whatever.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: That's so I'm I'm cool with Mike McDaniel's mind. I
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: could get down with it. I think they're gonna go dable.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: I also so then, I you know, I like the
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: you know, keeping it familiar, the Davis Web stuff, you know.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: But I'm nervous. That makes me nervous just right. Well,
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: because he's Josh. I don't think Josh needs a buddy
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: I think people like Sean Payton have experienced expressed very
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: high regards to him, and Sean Payton I I I
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: have a lot of respect for him this week.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: You know, he's an asshole, but he's a great coach.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: But he knows how to win and and develop quarterbacks
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: and you know, and and Davis web coming.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Not that Josh Allen needs developing, but you know.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: You gotta get some stuff. You got to get some
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: of these bad habits out of him, though, for sure
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: it's time.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: And so you know, somebody that Davis web familiar bills
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: like and familiar.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: He's young.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: He could be the future, you know, and the next
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: Sean McVay esque, right, like, the next type of just
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: that young.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Guy that that that that makes it happen.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: That's what they say about this. And then they also
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: say that about Kobik. Well, Kubiak's more of a he
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: calms everything down.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: But I would if we're going that route, I'd rather
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: have somebody like Davis Webb who is familiar, right, Like,
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: if we are going young and inexperience, I want somebody
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: who knows Josh right, So.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I got down. I mean, I'm I'm cool with Philip
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Rivers to fuck.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Why he just goboys than anybody, like he knows you know,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: he played, he played in the league for twenty years.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Like he's fine.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: He knows how to he knows how to stand in
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: front and lead a team, you know, so I think
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: that's I think that's very unlikely.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I think like most likely is stable.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: I'm cool with the McDaniel thing if but if we
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: are all those out, I.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Like Davis Webb.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: So that's where I stand, all right, you know, okay,
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: I can I can respect your takes for sure.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: I can respect your takes.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: I think it's funny that we both have, you know,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: kind of alluded to the fact we're talking around it.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Do not do not, Terry Pagula bring in a defensive coordinator?
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Do do not do that?
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Okay to this to this fan base, and I heard
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: you say something about Brian Flores. It would all depend,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: I think on who the OC was. You would have
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: to have a rock.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Well that was that was strictly with that was strictly
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: with a McDaniel or Dabele as OC.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, right, yeah, and I and I and I know
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: that I think that Dabel's got some job opportunity as well.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: We know that Mike McDaniel already signed up to be
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: the Chargers OC if he doesn't get a head coaching job.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: So I think it's gonna be tough for one of
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: the DC's to come in and bring one of those
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: rock star ocs with him having said that, so we're
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: both on the offensive side of the football preferably.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, you come on, man, I'm easy to read.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: You already know when was Josh Allen at his most lethal,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: he was that as both lethal twenty thirteen seconds with
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Brian Dabel. I think that Brian Dabele, if they get
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: you know, Bean supplies the girl the right way and
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: gives him what he needs. I think he can recreate
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: that offense. You know obviously that the league has changed
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: a little bit, but we've got a great offensive line.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: We're still gonna be able to run the ball. We
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: just don't have to be as run heavy as Joe
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Brady was. We don't have to rely on it to
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: be our bread and butter the way that Joe Brady did.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I think that Brian David brings that fire. I think
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: that familiarity that you just talked about with Josh somebody
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: that's not afraid to hold him accountable. One of the
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: things I'm worried about with the Davis web or maybe
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: this Yudinsky guy who because he's so young, is that,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: you know, are you going to be afraid to get
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: in Josh's face. That doesn't necessarily mean yelling on the
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: sideline that can be in film room. I'm holding him
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: accountable on that kind of thing, the stuff that behind
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: the scenes that we don't see. I'm I'm I want
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: somebody that's going to keep Josh's foot on the fire
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: because I think that there's I think that he can.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: He can. He is capable of cleaning up.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: These are sakes, some of them because you saw him
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: win the MVP last year based on the fact that
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: he cleaned up the turnovers and stuff like that. So
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: sometimes I feel like the roster forces him to try
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: I could do too much where he feels like he
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: has to carry everything, and that's where some of the
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: mistakes come. I think if you can provide him with
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: some of the more weapons and different things like that.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: And it's funny that we.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Said earlier in the episode, just being me, but know
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: that we need receivers because that press conference he would
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was like pulling teeth just to get
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: him to fucking admit that the receivers were garbage. Then
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: at the very end he's like, maybe I did mess
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: up with the receiver room, Like yeah, man, you are
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: so arrogant.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Sometimes that. I guess he gets.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Me a little bit nervous because he does not like
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: to be admit that he was wrong. If you surround
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Josh with talent, I think the table would be a
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: great choice, I really do.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: And to your point about not being able to get
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: in Josh's face some of these young whipper snappers as
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: you called it earlier in.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: The show, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it might be reversal of that.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: They might be overcompensating, right, And that's not good either,
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: of Like, all right, I'm young, I'm disrespected, so now
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna get like I'm gonna go way over the
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: top and being Josh's face like way too much, you know,
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: like just to like show that I'm not a bitch, right,
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: you know, to show that I'm ready to be here
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: and I'm not gonna back down. So like there's a
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: reverse end of that too, Rob Where are they afraid
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: to do it or they think they have to do
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: an extra now to prove themselves right?
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: And that's not good either.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: I don't want somebody double thinking on how they should
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: think just to like get themselves acknowledged. I want somebody
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: going in there and coaching a football team, right, So
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: I definitely.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: I see what you're saying.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: But I also see the reverse effect of it of
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: them over compensating because everyone's saying they are young, they
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: won't get in Josh's face, and then every game they're
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: just cussing Josh out and it's like, all right, dude,
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: like chill out, right.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: So it's.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: It definitely is a It's a catch twenty two there.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, Dable has the like, really, if you build
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: the perfect candidate like it, you know, he fits a
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: lot of.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Those systems, right.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: He's from Buffalo, he has the community we when he was.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: He does have the head coaching experience. He was the
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: coach of the year.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: You know, he was like, there is like all the
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: questions you have from these younger guys. Brian Dabele answered
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: the those questions with his resume.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, you know, it's funny because yeah,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I'm predictable. I mean I always
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: talk about, you know, thirteen seconds and how lethal that
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: office was. Everybody on Twitter knows that I'm ready to
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: get in any argument about when was I always remember
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: when was Josh ed is most lethal? When was he
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: the best? When was he at the height of his
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: pimpin and to me it was thirteen seconds. It was
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: that year when he had all of those different plethoro
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: of receivers. No, they weren't all all world beaters, but
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: you had an all pro in stuff and then you
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: had just great complimentary for pieces all throughout the room.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: This wide receiver room doesn't even resemble anything close to that.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: And I'm just wondering if the if THET the GM
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: really understands that. So we'll see a couple other guys
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: on there, like you had already talked about.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: None of them really scared me.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: The only thing I'm scared of is that if we
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: wait for Clint Kubiak, if they really think that this
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: guy is ready to go, he's he's lined up, he's
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: you know, the next big thing in respects to what
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: this offense needs. You know, you could either get left
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: at the altar or or you know what I mean,
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: or by the time he comes around, you know what
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know you're gonna be slim pickings for
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: some of his stats, you know what I mean? Like yeah,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: and I also and I argue.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: That point as well of like yes, like why we're
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: waiting like, we don't need the perfect guy necessarily because
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: we do have one seven right, This dude's gonna win
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: you eight nine games really no matter what, So you
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: need you know, we don't need the perfect guy. Is
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: Clint Kubiak have the resume as the perfect guy?
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Not in my eyes?
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: Right, So why are we waiting for this guy? It's
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: any oc And like we we should have done this
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: last year. We could have got Ben Johnson or William Cohen.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: They weren't ship until they were you know, So like
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: it doesn't like we don't know who's gonna break out
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: and be the next Sean McVay and the next you know,
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: we don't know this until we go out and roll it.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: But I like the chances of one of these young
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: whipper snappers the word of the show tonight of.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Coming in and being with Josh Allen and being that's
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: the best way to kind of ease into a new
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: role is be with the best player in the world.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: So uh, I agree, I don't think we should wagh
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: if we know, if we kind of have a good
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: feeling where we're at this weekend, pull the trigger, get
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: it done. The team needs it, like we need the
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: fan base needs it, that they need a new face
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: and a positive press conference to kind of move forward
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: and move on.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, it'll be It's going to be very,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: very interesting because you know, it's funny I get some
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: of this tinge on Twitter and stuff like that, DT,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: and when I'm seeing social media and all after the
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: press conference, for sure and all we're getting ready to
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: go back, like you said early in the show, back
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: to the drought, and we're just functioning and stuff like that.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I'm like, guys, it doesn't have to be bad, Like
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: this does not have to be like everybody. I feel
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: like there's a portion of Bill's Mafia DT that operates
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: in fear, and you already know that that's not my style.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: I'm not operating in fear.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Just because you make a change does not mean that
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: the change has to go bad. It does not mean
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: that you are doomed for failure because you make a change.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: So I think that a lot of Bill's Mafia, and
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: I think that that's part of this whole petition garbage,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: is that they just kind of got comfortable in it
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: in their own little cocoon, like, Okay, well we go
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: to the playoffs, and you know, we're not embarrassed, and
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: our you know, our coach doesn't eat dog biscuits like
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Rex Ryan, and we're not in the drought anymore. Let's
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: just kind of let it just be. And to me,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: I think that it's okay to raise those expectations. So
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: I don't think that this is doom and gloom. I
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: think that we've got one seven, We've got a great
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: opportunity to find a way to get a new coach
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: and see what he's got and what he can bring
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: to the table. I don't think that there's any type
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: of doom and gloom that needs to be associated with
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: this coach shirts, or with the future of the Buffalo Bills,
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: any of that type of stuff. I'm interested. I love
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: the comments tonight. I'm seeing you guys all in there.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Appreciate everybody given the love and the feedback, because you know,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: this is this we are entering the you know, the
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: second half of Josh Allen's career.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: We are entering that second phase.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: And I've warned you know, tons of people that I've
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: interacted with on Twitter and stuff like that, is that
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: don't expect Josh Allen Bill's mafia to play you know, forever.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: He is not going to be like a Tom Brady
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: type that's playing. I mean, Haley, missus, missus Allan. She
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: is not going to a allow him to just play forever.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: That's just not I just don't think that that's gonna happen. So,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, we might get another good
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: five you know, four or five, maybe six years of
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: He's gonna be age thirty coming up.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: I just I warn and I caution everybody that just
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: don't don't take this for granted and embrace this. This
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: is the second half of his career, and I think
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: that there could be good things ahead. I definitely think
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: that he's still capable of taking this to the Promised Land.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: And and I I'm just I'm just not fearful.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: I really am not. I'm not fearful of of this
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: next stage DT. I was just telling Nicol City crew,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: I'm in Bill's Mafia. I'm not fearful of this next stage.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: I really am not. You got me, You got me,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: baby boy. DT having some technical difficulties, but that that's
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: just that's that's where I stand on it Bill's Mafia.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: As we try to get DT back, that's That's where
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: I stand on it. I don't think that we need
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: to be doom and gloom. I don't think that we
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: need to assume then everything is gonna not work out.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: And that's all I was saying.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: DT was just reminding everybody that Josh is not gonna
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: play forever. We're in the second half of his career.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: And I don't think that this situation where we need to.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: I don't think we need to think that this is
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: going to just go bad just because we don't know.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Just because it's unknown doesn't mean it's going to go bad.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: I agree, And you know, we have had almost ten
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: years of pretty strong success. We cannot you know, lose
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: all that and throw it away because we had a
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: bad seventy two hours, right, Like, yeah, losing sucks. Thirty
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: one NFL teams do it every year, and it seems
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: to be us that it's it's gut wrenching every time.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: But then we go into you know, the mishaps or
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: the presser and fire mcderm everything. But the future is
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: still bright with one seven at the helm, right, and
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: we need to know that. As Bill's mafia, I mean,
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: Brandon being definitely knows he's got to make a move
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: like it can't be any louder. As much as he
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: wants to be arrogant and defend it and defend it,
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: it's gotta be happening this time. So I I agree
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: we need to chill out a little bit because we
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: are nine months away from kicking off, you know, in
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: the new stadium, and there's a lot in between that.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: You know, we can't be this fired up that long, right,
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: so we need to chill out. Understand, we can be upset,
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: but no one sevens at the helm and we still
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: have a chance and we're gonna get better. And maybe
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: this coach is the John Gruden that gets us over
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: the hump, you know, oh one buck style.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, maybe so man.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: You know, as we begin to transition and wrap up tonight,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: I think that I just I just look at the
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: horizon as it's open, and I think that it's just
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: open and there's there's vast possibilities.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: I will be, I will go.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: I've told everybody I will lose my ship if they
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: bring in a defensive cord.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to like it.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: I know lou and umo Is is respected and stuff
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: like that, but he better be bringing a star studded
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: offensive staff with him if they pick him. But if
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: it's an offensive coach, it's it's almost dt Any. Like
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: any offensive coach, I'm gonna be happy. Just I agree,
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: like that Angelum swinging, you know, like I agree, we've
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: got the defensive guy. He's all buttoned up. They'll bring in.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: It doesn't even matter if they bring in Dable. He's
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: totally opposite of McDermott. And and all these offensive guys
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: are obviously going to be opposite the ball of mc dermott.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: So I I'm I'm kind of just I'm I'm down
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: for whatever. Man, I'm down for whatever.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: I'm ready if you, if you josh Ana, like you said,
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: if three to five, whatever, However many more years he's got,
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: and we keep Sean McDermott, We keep Sean McDermott, and
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: this goes on, you know, four more years.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Damn, Josh is done. We kept Sean McDermott. We never
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: did it.
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: So this is Forgoula saying, well, I gotta try something different.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: You know, we only have Josh for this long. I
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: gotta try something different. So to try something different, we
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: need to commit to something different. You know, we can't
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: go back to the same old that, you know, not
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: the same we'd hire Mike Tomlin, but that type of guy,
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: you know, defensive coordinated, the same dude.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: We have to go opposite of everything.
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: And I'm not saying get away from you know, the
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: culture and all that stuff that still has to be
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: a staple. But maybe take a chance on a guy
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: with some character issue, you know, maybe take a chance
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: on So I'm gonna get this like that guy. Maybe
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: take a chance on a guy with some character issue,
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: you know. Maybe take a chance on something a little different.
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: So that's that's where I stand.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: You know it. It really doesn't matter bringing somebody offensive.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: We did.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: We did all this to change because if we kept
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: it the same.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're breaking up a little bit.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: Like I I just feel like, oh man, I just
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: I feel like we're in a situation where if we
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: are if you operate in fear, it will cripple you.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: I got called.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Dumb like five times the other night by some dude
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: on Twitter, some old guy on Twitter, and I think
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: he's a former football player or something like that, and
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: he's calling me dumb because you know, I'm like, I'm
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: ready for you know a new coach and this and that,
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: and he's it's like what what what coach you're gonna
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: get and like he's like trying to argue with him.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: He's like, You're like, tell me what coach you're gonna get.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, homeboy, I don't have the name for
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: you that like the name doesn't that doesn't even matter
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: to me. Like I give you, he's gonna come back
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: to me. I'll say that he's not he's not right,
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: or that's the wrong way. Like, listen, your point is
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: that McDermot should have gone I got it.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: I heard you. But like, I'll just stick to that.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Any Bills Mafia member that signed that petition, any Bills
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Mafia member like that one dude on Twitter that I
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: was arguing with the other night. Listen, if you think
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: that Sean McDermott needed to stay, you are entitled to
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: your own opinion. I will respectfully tell you, and we
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: are Bill's Mafia brother and sisters, brothers and sisters, I'm
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: gonna tell you that you're misguided. And that's from the
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: bottom of my Bill's heart. I love you like a brother,
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: I love you like a Bill's sister. You are misguided
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: if you think that he just deserved to be Josh
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Allen's quarterback for the duration or of his career on
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: until he wanted to retire. That is not how professional
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: sports work. The one the two things I liked about
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: that press conference as we wrap up tonight, and the
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: one thing that I heard at the very end from Pagoula,
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: and that was all that saved it for me because
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: it was a shit show, was that he said, what
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: is success and he realizes, at least now finally he
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: gets it if he didn't get it before because he
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: definitely wasn't acting on it was that you just can't
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: keep doing the same thing. And then saying successful is
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: not getting the goal. If the goal is to get
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: the goal and you don't get the goal, well then
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: like DT said earlier, that it's like it's do or die,
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: like did you do it or did you not do it?
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: He didn't do it. He was great. He definitely changed
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: the culture.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: He definitely made us respectable and and brought us back
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: to where we needed to be in respect to the
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: eyes of our peers in the league.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: But it wasn't just that we We literally.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Had an episode DT that was the job for life,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: like like we've been over this shit, DT, we really have.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: So I encourage Bills Mafi to just embrace this next step.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Please get less words.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: And you know the fact of when he first started
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: the conference with the playoff seeding numbers, right, I thought
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: I was so confused.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Man, Well, I knew that he was going with seeds.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: I thought he was going to say we never got
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: the one seed, and hey.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: We got this, this and this, we never got the one.
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: We did this, this and this, we never made it
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: to the Super's.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Saying like the team could have won the super Bowl.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: So the roster was good enough, the coach just didn't
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: get us there and that, but yes, yes, success, he
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: knows the super Bowl needs to happen. And continuing down
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: the same road he did probably a couple of years
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: more than he should have. And you know, I'm I'll
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: give you some credit, Rob, and you know everyone they
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: gave us. Heye, a couple of years ago when the
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: whole Stefan Diggs stuff came out, he was saying the
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: same ship like this was what it was, This was
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: what it was about. Keep doing this, We can't keep
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: running it back And then he was, you know, and
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: that shifted him out of town. Now the whole organization
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: is finally caught up and saying this. I told you
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: this during the week, Rob. I think they're just on
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: a two year delay. I think they're just on a
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: two year delay. I think, you know, people Stephan Diggs
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: and people were after thirteen seconds for like mcdermany needs
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: to be gone, and then a couple of years later
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: he does it. Kevin Adams should have been done the
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: day he walked in.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: The Sabers team.
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: Two years later, three years later he does it like so,
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: I think he's just delayed on the focus and the
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: mindset of you know, the fan base and where things
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: need to go.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: I think you just on a two year delay.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: DT.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: You're a jerk man, because we're getting ready to sign
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: off and you just did that. I you know how
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: hard I worked to not bring his name up tonight
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: because everybody wants to always over You always want to
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: talk about thirteen seconds.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: You need to get over it. You always want to
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: talk about Diggs.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: Like, no, I'm not always trying to talk about Diggs,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: but god, Lee, you just took the words out of
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: my mouth to I refuse to even say tonight and
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: that's why, that's why this is my Bill's brother from
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: another mother.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: He he just feels me. We always just vibe it.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: I swear I thought this thing immediately when it happened,
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: and all tonight I was like, I'm not gonna bring
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: up stuff. I'm not gonna bring up fourteen. I'm not
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: gonna bring up fourteen. They got mad at him because
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: he wanted better, not because of pick tweets, not because
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: of this, and that he came back to Mini Camp.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: We did an episode the mis Education of Step five Diggs.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: He came back to Minicamp and wanted to sit down
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: and talk to McDermott. Wanted to sit down and talk
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: to seventeen or the OC and see like, what are
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: we getting ready to change? Because what did he say?
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: What he said, I feel like we are rolling the
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: ball a stone up the hill and then it just
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: keeps falling back down. He got he got sick of it,
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: and we were all sick of it. And they ran
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: him out of town and called them adeva and the
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: malcontent and all this other stuff, and that he wanted
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: to leave. Now the owner ok being okay anymore, And
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: now the owner finally gets it. So thank you for
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: saying that, because I purposely didn't bring up fourteen. But
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: he's been he's been saying this ship. I've been saying
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: this shit since thirteen.
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: So there's gonna be most likely in a super Bowl
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: this year, just so everyone knows.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: So yeah, God, oh God, oh god. I don't even
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: want to talk about this game.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: What were your picks for the Super Bowl? We'll close
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: up on that with Nickel City Crew before we close.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: We will be back. We are now gonna leave. This
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: was supposed to be the season five finale then Sean
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: mcgermy got fired, So uh DT and I will be back.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: We're gonna hit you off. We've got a great guest
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: coming up next week.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: Hopefully by next week, We've got our coach picked out
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: and I've got a great guest that's lined up that
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: knows his ship on one of my Twitter buddies and
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: h he'll help us break down whoever we decide to
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: hire and what that particular uh Man brings to the
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: table for the Buffalo Bills. DT, are you even gonna
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: watch Sunday? I mean, I feel like, as a football fan,
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: I probably am going to hate watch it. But I
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: don't know if I'm gonna just sit there and watch
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: every play on Sunday for the AFC, I don't I
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: don't know yought about it.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: The other weekend goes it's you know, it's it's It
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: doesn't help.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: It's very hard.
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: Because it's two degrees out, so I might might be
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: forced to watch that Ben Affleck Matt Gamon movie on
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: the Rick. So I don't know what I watched, but
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: I think you know the gambling side, meme wants to
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: go Broncos. When the whole world says it's easy money Patriots,
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: that usually means they're going to be wrong, and the
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: Broncos might give him a weird run for their money.
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: On the other side of things, let's go with the
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: Rams strictly, because I look at these four teams left,
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: Who's getting to Lombardi before Josh Allen. It's Sam Darnold,
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: hell no, it's Drake May hell no, or it's a
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: backup hell no. So Matt Stafford's the only Matt Stafford's
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: the only worthy person to get a Lombardi because he
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: already has one and he is good and you know
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: and and all that.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: So I'm going Rams and fuck the Patriots. Broncos.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, I don't I if I was placing money
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: on it. I don't know if I would be able
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: to place money on the Broncos because of Stidham. I
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: think that that may be just a hill a little
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: bit too steep to climb. But yeah, whoever, I mean,
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: the NFC is a better conference. If the Bills made
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, I would be nervous as hell. What
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: did I always say, Let's just get to the show
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: and then I let the chips fall from there. So
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know what would happen if the Bills would
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: have gotten and fulfilled their destiny and got into the
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl this year. But I know that the NFC
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: is much stronger than the AFC, So I expect either
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: one the Rams or the Seahawks to win the Super
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: Bowl this year, regardless of if they played the Patriots
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: or now obviously if they play the Patriots.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: It just it just adds another, just another layer.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: That we've got a second year quarterback, first year head coach,
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: not ever, but you know, his first year on the
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: job here in New England, and they've already surpassed something
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: that we couldn't even do and that that ships things.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: So if that doesn't make you mad, Bill's.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Mobins for the portion that wanted mc dermott, then like,
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: hopefully that'll stick again. If that happens, if you're seeing
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: the Patriots on your TV for Super Bowl Sunday, hopefully like, okay,
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: it maybe it was time, you know what I mean?
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: Because nothing, they weren't they they weren't.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: No, they weren't.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: No, hell no, hell no. They weren't supposed to come
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: this fast. And they took everything from us.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: They took the division from us, and and unfortunately they're
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: they're in a position that we should be in this weekend.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: But it is what it is. DT, I really appreciate
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: your man.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Olivia Nagel, our creative director all season long.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: We really appreciate her hard work for helping us out.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: I Again, we already given our shout out to to
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Queen City Vintage, shout out to Taste a Buffalo Pizzaia,
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: shout out to Als Bar and Grill. We really appreciate
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: you guys. Didn't get a chance to get in there.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: Just life is hectic. I got I've got four babies.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: It's hard, so I didn't get a chance to get
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: in there. But we are gonna work on some some
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: remotes for next year.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: But listen, stick with us.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: We are gonna be with you guys every Friday until
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: we pick a coach. Hopefully next week we'll come back
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: and we'll be able to wrap up season five. I've
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: had a blast, DT. I don't know about you, but
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: I've had a blast this year.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: I think that. I think it's been one of our best.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: Seasons, to be honest, and despite the know the ship
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: show and how everything ended on Saturday, I'm honored, you know.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: I love you man. That Charlotte Tripp was just what
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: the doctor ordered. We played our cards wrong with the stadium,
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: but this year, but I'm glad that you got a
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: chance to be there for the for the finale and
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. And I will see you next year
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: for the home opener. I won't miss that for anything.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: In the world.
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: Yes, sir, Yes, sir, It's been a great season. Rob
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: It's you know, we got traction, now, we got listeners.
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: This is fun, man, This is fun, and I wouldn't
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: want to do it with anybody else.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: I love man. It's been good.
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: You know, another heartbreaking year, but knowing that I got
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: people like you, you know that that it's all good.
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: It's always good. And Charlotte, this year was awesome. And yeah,
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: so another year down. We're getting better. We're you know,
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: our listeners were fine. Two of them things. We're gonna
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: we're gonna come back with next season with even better stuff.
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: We're not telling yet. Well we'll keep going for a while,
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: but we're gonna come back with better stuff. We're gonna
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: keep getting better. And uh yeah, Nickel City baby would
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: love it.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I love it. Man, I really appreciate you.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: So listen, enjoy your night. DT out there, nicol City crew.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: Pick you, pick your head up, pick you chin up.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: We still got seventeen, like you, still have the baddest
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: man on the planet. Everybody has a bad day. Saturday
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: was a bad day. He picked up a day to
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: have one. But you know, I think he's gonna learn
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: from it, he's gonna grow from it. And and I wouldn't.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't trade him for anybody, not Pat, not any
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: of those not fifteen, not none of those quarterbacks. Love
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: mars Bum asked, we want to come to practice. I mean, yeah,
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't I wouldn't want seventeen. I wouldn't want anybody
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: over him. So I understand that fifteen has had some
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: more team successful. There's a lot of other factors that
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: come into that why he's had more accolades. I'll take
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen any day of the week, and hopefully we
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: can find a way to sur around him out there.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: Nicol City Crew Bills, Mafia Listen, spread love not hate.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: These were my bills. Thoughts set out loud. Hit him
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: with a go Bills DT. It's time for us to
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: go get a old ball coach. It's time for us
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: to go get.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: A old ball Adam Adam from South Buffalo, Go bills.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: I love it, I love it, I love it. I
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: love it. I love it.