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Color Revolution in Serbia? Or Student Led Protest Movement? · IndieNewsNow LIVE! Clips

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  SPEAKER_01: Who are these people?
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  SPEAKER_00: This is a lot to unpack and dissect here.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm going to rely on one specific person who's been calling this for a while
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  SPEAKER_00: to kind of counter what a lot of other people that have been saying and wanted
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  SPEAKER_00: to say.
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  SPEAKER_00: So let's talk about Serbia.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know much about Serbia.
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  SPEAKER_00: I know Serbia and Croatia had been together and split as a country,
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  SPEAKER_00: and they're not exactly the best of friends at this point,
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  SPEAKER_00: but Serbia recently had elections where the students were apparently Took over
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  SPEAKER_00: the government.
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  SPEAKER_00: How did that happen?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a little strange.
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  SPEAKER_00: There are some,
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  SPEAKER_00: like one specifically,
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  SPEAKER_00: Brian Berletic from the New Atlas has been calling this since last September
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  SPEAKER_00: that they've been planning a color revolution in Serbia.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now once it happened and these elections happened and the government was overthrown
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  SPEAKER_00: and the students came in and took over and celebrated We saw some celebrations,
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  SPEAKER_00: and I'm going to go through some of this now.
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  SPEAKER_00: And again,
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  SPEAKER_00: the reason why I'm bringing this,
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know exactly what's going on here,
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  SPEAKER_00: but there are two conflicting narratives,
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  SPEAKER_00: and I want to point that out,
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  SPEAKER_00: that there are narratives even amongst the people that we follow and like,
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  SPEAKER_00: and there are arguments about what's actually happening here.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, what's going on?
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  SPEAKER_00: Mohammed Safa.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Mohammed Safa was the UN representative to Palestine who resigned
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  SPEAKER_00: because he was ineffective in his mind at doing his own job.
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  SPEAKER_00: So he's no longer the UN delegate to Palestine,
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  SPEAKER_00: but he was and he certainly has a powerful and important voice.
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  SPEAKER_00: What he says here is everyone needs to know what actually happened in Serbia.
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  SPEAKER_00: Instead of students just protesting against their government,
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  SPEAKER_00: students organized themselves into a student list and ran in elections
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  SPEAKER_00: against their government and they've just won.
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  SPEAKER_00: Dear Serbia...
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  SPEAKER_00: Congratulations on your victory.
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  SPEAKER_00: You've just opened a new door in protesting.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is history.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, and there's a lot of different replies here.
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  SPEAKER_00: This photo is inspiring.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_00: It looks great.
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  SPEAKER_00: But what's really going on here,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: especially with the way things are in Europe right now,
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  SPEAKER_00: I've got to question what I'm seeing.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Brian turns around and says, Brian, who is behind the protests in Serbia?
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  SPEAKER_00: Short answer, it looks like the U.S. is.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here's the long answer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Again, Brian Berletic is from the New Atlas.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's an independent journalist who's been based in China and paying attention
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  SPEAKER_00: to this for a long time.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm going to go to the bottom here and I'm going to show you when this was written.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because this one happened just the other day.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right.
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  SPEAKER_00: The long answer to actually definitively answer this question,
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  SPEAKER_00: you need to look up the organizations involved directly in the protests,
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  SPEAKER_00: as well as the organizations supporting and promoting in legally,
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  SPEAKER_00: logistically, financially, and across information space politically.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm surely not the only human being on Earth that can look these things up,
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  SPEAKER_00: but since many have asked, I've begun looking.
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  SPEAKER_00: This requires research that can take several hours of dedicated focus to answer,
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  SPEAKER_00: but to start,
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  SPEAKER_00: look at the U.S.
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  SPEAKER_00: government-funded media,
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  SPEAKER_00: like Radio Free Europe and Radio Liberty,
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  SPEAKER_00: or British state media like the BBC, and see how they're spinning it.
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  SPEAKER_00: If they're enthusiastically promoting it, it's almost certain it's a U.S.-backed thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: If they're decrying it as anti-democratic mobs or Russian-Chinese meddling,
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  SPEAKER_00: it is almost certainly aimed at dismantling U.S. proxies, parties, or programs.
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  SPEAKER_00: Regarding the protests in Serbia,
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  SPEAKER_00: in just a few minutes I've found several organizations in the middle
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  SPEAKER_00: of supporting them funded by the U.S. and EU governments.
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  SPEAKER_00: He lists them here.
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  SPEAKER_00: There are four.
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  SPEAKER_00: No legit protests get hijacked.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's not how the U.S. has ever operated.
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  SPEAKER_00: Large protests require years of preparations and network building.
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  SPEAKER_00: If the U.S. is involved, it's because they're behind it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Everyone who will message me saying, no, the current government is horrible.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is legit protests.
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  SPEAKER_00: No matter how bad you think your government is,
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  SPEAKER_00: the U.S.-backed puppets they will replace it with will be 100,000
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  SPEAKER_00: or 10,000 times worse.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just ask Ukraine.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you're going to tell me the protests are legit,
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  SPEAKER_00: you need to show me the special interests that are behind the protests and show me
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  SPEAKER_00: a list longer and more convincing than the one I showed above.
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  SPEAKER_00: And no, protests are never decentralized.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is simply the US doing a better job of covering its tracks.
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  SPEAKER_00: All protests, good or bad, have special interests, good or bad, behind them.
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  SPEAKER_00: Human beings do not spontaneously self-organize on this sort of scale.
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  SPEAKER_00: And what he's talking about here are the BBC headlines that are,
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  SPEAKER_00: again, celebrating Radio Free Europe, celebrating the ousting of Vucic.
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  SPEAKER_00: Again, I'm not saying whether this is good or bad.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm saying that Brian is pointing out a narrative similar
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  SPEAKER_00: to how color revolutions are pushed through.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then we've got Craig Murray.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, Craig Murray to me was a fighter for Julian Assange.
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  SPEAKER_00: He sat in jail for a while,
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  SPEAKER_00: and I've read several of his articles,
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  SPEAKER_00: but I also think that he tends to be myopic and have hopium when it comes to some
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  SPEAKER_00: of this stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't be gaslit on the Serbian elections.
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  SPEAKER_00: Student List has one on an anti-corruption and free speech platform.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's definitely not pro-NATO or anti-Russian.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's mildly pro-EU, but so was the previous largest party.
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  SPEAKER_00: The main, explicitly pro-EU party got zero seats.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, yes, all of those things are true.
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  SPEAKER_00: However...
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  SPEAKER_00: This again goes back, and this is the one I wanted to bring.
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  SPEAKER_00: This was back last August 29th.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're talking 14 months ago.
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  SPEAKER_00: Brian...
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  SPEAKER_00: Who called it and laid out what this was.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's go back and point it out.
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  SPEAKER_00: That he was calling out US funded regime change operations in Serbia 14 months ago.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that this stuff takes time and planning and organization and networking to coordinate.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe about 14 months worth.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: So.
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  SPEAKER_00: As Western-sponsored Color Revolution targets Serbia for regime change,
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  SPEAKER_00: it's important to remember that the U.S.
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  SPEAKER_00: National Endowment for Democracy, or NED,
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  SPEAKER_00: is still operating and still funding a multitude of programs specifically in Serbia,
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  SPEAKER_00: which again he calls out in this list.
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  SPEAKER_00: But because of deceptive claims by the Trump admin claiming to have defunded the NED
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  SPEAKER_00: and other regime change tools,
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  SPEAKER_00: the NED today is more hidden, unnoticed, and therefore more dangerous than ever.
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  SPEAKER_00: Victoria Nuland didn't go anywhere.
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  SPEAKER_00: Beginning under the Biden administration,
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  SPEAKER_00: there was a push to hide the U.S.
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  SPEAKER_00: government's hand in regime change by laundering funding and interference
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  SPEAKER_00: through Europe, Australia, and other U.S. client states.
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  SPEAKER_00: Pretending as if the NED was defunded
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  SPEAKER_00: or dismantled has helped further create plausible deniability for U.S.
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  SPEAKER_00: interference worldwide, including in Serbia, which is crazy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ultimately,
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  SPEAKER_00: Europe's current course and the capture of Serbia serves Washington at
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  SPEAKER_00: the collective expense of Europe, including Serbia.
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  SPEAKER_00: Again, This is from the NED's official website,
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  SPEAKER_00: targeting, showing all the donations that were made.
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  SPEAKER_00: $40,000,
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  SPEAKER_00: $48,500,
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  SPEAKER_00: $40,000,
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  SPEAKER_00: $60,000,
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  SPEAKER_00: not a little bit of money each time, and how much they were contributing in grants.
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  SPEAKER_00: You see this?
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  SPEAKER_00: These are grants that they're issuing to people in order to Destabilize
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  SPEAKER_00: and carry out these tasks within the country.
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  SPEAKER_00: And these are countries that don't necessarily have the same level of income that we do.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's a lot of money for them.
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  SPEAKER_00: That could be years worth of income.
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  SPEAKER_00: And look at how many there are, four pages worth.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm sure there were more.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Brian was calling this out,
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  SPEAKER_00: that the NED was literally paying people tens of thousands of dollars per roll
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  SPEAKER_00: a year ago.
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  SPEAKER_00: To strengthen citizen empowerment and engagement.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's spying operations.
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  SPEAKER_00: The NED is a cutout for the CIA, in case you don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, I went to the New Arab,
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  SPEAKER_00: and I've been a little frustrated,
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  SPEAKER_00: I gotta say,
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  SPEAKER_00: with New Arab,
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  SPEAKER_00: but I still think they're an important outlet, and their perspective does matter.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're almost kind of like a corporate media to me in a way in that they're
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  SPEAKER_00: a more established type of outlet,
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  SPEAKER_00: that they have a larger staff and they're not independent one-on-one journalists.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I did want to, again, bring what their staff had to say.
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  SPEAKER_00: And let me see if I can go into, like, a reader mode.
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  SPEAKER_00: I guess not.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can close this, though.
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  SPEAKER_00: By unseating longtime leader Alexander Vucic in Sunday's election,
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  SPEAKER_00: Serbia's student protest movement did what demonstrators
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  SPEAKER_00: and other European capitals can only dream of.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe they didn't get the funding and the right people picked by NED that Serbia did.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now comes the gritty business of governing something neither the students
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  SPEAKER_00: nor their hand-picked candidates have any experience with.
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  SPEAKER_00: Tens of thousands took to the streets across the country to celebrate
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  SPEAKER_00: when Vucic conceded defeat late Sunday in a historic poll that capped two years
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  SPEAKER_00: of peaceful anti-government protests.
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  SPEAKER_00: The fact that it was peaceful also...
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  SPEAKER_00: That the government didn't get violent on the students at any point also leads me
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  SPEAKER_00: to believe that there was the CIA involved and there was protection somewhere.
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  SPEAKER_00: But as the jubilant crowd lit flares and fireworks sang and danced, questions lingered.
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  SPEAKER_00: Who's going to emerge from this leaderless movement as prime minister?
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  SPEAKER_00: What exactly will their policies be?
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  SPEAKER_00: And can a bunch of political unknowns with no previous affiliation stick together
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  SPEAKER_00: to shore up the economy, root out graft and juggle complex international relations?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well...
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  SPEAKER_00: The answers will determine Serbia's political stability,
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  SPEAKER_00: its relations with China and Russia, and its largest trading partner, the EU.
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  SPEAKER_00: They've already announced that they're not going to send more weapons to Ukraine.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's a good step in the right direction.
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  SPEAKER_00: But again,
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  SPEAKER_00: could it be a smokescreen because they,
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  SPEAKER_00: again, were funded by the NED and CIA, all these protests?
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  SPEAKER_00: Clearly, they helped organize all of this.
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  SPEAKER_00: And at some point, they're going to cash in.
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  SPEAKER_00: I hope so.
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  SPEAKER_00: That would be great.
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  SPEAKER_00: Bureaucratic resistance to reforms and
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  SPEAKER_00: the movement's limited governing experience could make the transition challenging,
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  SPEAKER_00: Taneo Global Research said in a report Monday.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's an understatement,
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  SPEAKER_00: number one,
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  SPEAKER_00: on top of the fact that you're going to have saboteurs that are fighting all
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  SPEAKER_00: of this.
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  SPEAKER_00: So again,
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  SPEAKER_00: the protest movement began after 16 people died when
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  SPEAKER_00: a railway station canopy collapsed in the northern city of Novi Sad in 2024.
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  SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the student-led demonstrations called for accountability and an end to corruption.
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  SPEAKER_00: Without a figurehead,
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  SPEAKER_00: students won widespread support before closing,
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  SPEAKER_00: before choosing 250 academics,
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  SPEAKER_00: lawyers, doctors, actors, farmers, musicians to represent them in the election.
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  SPEAKER_00: Could any of those actors or lawyers or doctors have been funded by the NED to run
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  SPEAKER_00: for elections on behalf of the students and stand up and say
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  SPEAKER_00: that they represented them?
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  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: The movement and some of the top candidates on its list gave the idea
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  SPEAKER_00: of what it stands for,
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  SPEAKER_00: promising a domestic anti-corruption program centered on institutional overhauls.
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  SPEAKER_00: It does not recognize Kosovo,
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  SPEAKER_00: Serbia's former southern province,
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  SPEAKER_00: which declared independence in 2008,
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  SPEAKER_00: but wants to hold a referendum on Serbia's accession to the EU,
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  SPEAKER_00: with which relations have frayed in recent years.
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  SPEAKER_00: Prominent figures include the head of the student's candidate list, cardiologist Ilya Srdanovic.
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  SPEAKER_00: Former Central Bank Governor Dejan Soskic and Radomir Soskic,
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  SPEAKER_00: a professor at Belgrade University who spoke on behalf of the students
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  SPEAKER_00: after their victory.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it's uncertain whether any of them will hold a ministerial post and it remains
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  SPEAKER_00: to be seen whether the candidates can form a cohesive government.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay?
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  SPEAKER_00: That can agree on policy long enough to use their comfortable parliamentary majority
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  SPEAKER_00: to enact change.
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  SPEAKER_00: Almost in a way...
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  SPEAKER_00: Although the Democrats knew what they were doing when they got both houses
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  SPEAKER_00: of Congress and the White House in 2009, they had a limited window to get shit done.
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  SPEAKER_00: And what you saw was a ton of political infighting and everybody wanting
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  SPEAKER_00: to get their piece of the pie.
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  SPEAKER_00: You saw this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Ben Nelson wanted to extract the Cornhusker thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Joe Lieberman wanted to get it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Everybody wanted to get a little piece.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hey, now that we have the majority, we can do everything we want.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want my piece, too, as long as I'm going to vote for all this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is that what's going to happen here?
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe, maybe not.
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  SPEAKER_00: I hope not.
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  SPEAKER_00: The student movement created such a shift in Serbia's culture,
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  SPEAKER_00: we'll just have to see if it lasts.
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  SPEAKER_00: We will just have to see that it's a professor at the University of Belgrade.
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  SPEAKER_00: We just hope there are big goals that can keep them together long enough
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  SPEAKER_00: to deconstruct the system.
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  SPEAKER_00: Again, with the NED-backed Funding and support behind it,
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  SPEAKER_00: I would guess that they have more of a plan on what to do now
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  SPEAKER_00: that things have started to break down and their other people have gotten in power.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the first thing they're going to do, allegedly, is reform public institutions.
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  SPEAKER_00: Under Serbia's constitution,
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  SPEAKER_00: I wish we could do that here,
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  SPEAKER_00: by the way,
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  SPEAKER_00: candidates for government have 90 days to form a government once
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  SPEAKER_00: a parliament convenes after the state election commission announces
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  SPEAKER_00: the final results.
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  SPEAKER_00: Time matters,
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  SPEAKER_00: as usual,
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  SPEAKER_00: especially with a budget to pass before year-end amid rising public
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  SPEAKER_00: and private debt.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's the other thing is time's ticking on debt where there's big bankers
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  SPEAKER_00: and globalists have their hands in this already.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now tell me that the NED isn't involved and the CIA is not going to try to push things along.
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  SPEAKER_00: While any attempt to end corruption will require overhauling the police
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  SPEAKER_00: and intelligence services and reforming the judiciary.
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  SPEAKER_00: Good luck when you've got reformers and saboteurs inside the government
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  SPEAKER_00: that are going to try to stop all of those things from happening.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's a monstrous task in front of them again with CIA now looking to cash in
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  SPEAKER_00: and say, okay, we gave you guys help to overthrow these guys.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now here's what we want.
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  SPEAKER_00: They haven't even told them that yet.
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  SPEAKER_00: State institutions require detoxification after 14 years of Vucic said Bozo Prelevich.
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  SPEAKER_00: His name is really Bozo Prelevich.
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  SPEAKER_00: They found a lawyer named Bozo to interview for this, and he's not a clown.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is two days before Halloween,
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  SPEAKER_00: so it fits,
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  SPEAKER_00: but Prelevich warned that Vucic's Serbian Progressive Party will pose
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  SPEAKER_00: a strong opposition and that the new government would have to fight its corner.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Vucic, they're not going anywhere.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're going to make sure that none of this happens smoothly or the way
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  SPEAKER_00: that these guys want it to.
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  SPEAKER_00: Butchich and the SNS repeatedly denied accusations of repression and corruption,
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  SPEAKER_00: which there may or may not have been,
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  SPEAKER_00: but I'll bet what they weren't doing was bowing down to what the U.S.
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  SPEAKER_00: and the EU was wanting.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, let's look at international relations.
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  SPEAKER_00: In Russia, Serbia's traditional ally and principal supplier of natural gas...
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  SPEAKER_00: That could be weird.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's because the U.S.
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  SPEAKER_00: didn't want Russia to continue to sell Serbia gas,
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  SPEAKER_00: and now that they're building a pipeline that would mirror Nord Stream,
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  SPEAKER_00: maybe they want to get Serbia involved in that?
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  SPEAKER_00: That's interesting.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's take a look at what they said about Russia.
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  SPEAKER_00: Serbia's traditional ally,
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  SPEAKER_00: Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov,
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  SPEAKER_00: praised Vucic but stopped short of congratulating the students.
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  SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
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  SPEAKER_00: We respect Russia both as a great power and as our historically important partner
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  SPEAKER_00: and in many cases protector.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the representative Jojo Bakic, a sociologist and university lecturer told RT.
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  SPEAKER_00: Adding that there would be no change in Serbia's foreign policy towards Russia,
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: including not introducing sanctions against Moscow.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: Why should there be?
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_00: Also closely watching is Ukraine,
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: of course they are,
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: which has been an indirect beneficiary of Serbian weapons in its fight
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: to repel Russia's four-year-long invasion.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: Again, terrible framing here.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: Russia's four-year-long invasion that was stoked by NATO after
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_00: the Maidan coup failure and Ukraine bombing the Donbass repeatedly for eight days.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_00: And then the Donbass begging Russia.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_00: Putin to intervene and help them and Putin bombing back because they were attacking
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_00: the 90% Russian speaking portion of Ukraine.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: And we've done deep analysis into how Ukraine splits
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_00: and we've done Eva Bartlett articles and all kinds of analysis about
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_00: the Ukraine crisis.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_00: And how it's remarkable,
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: honestly,
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: that Putin and Russia have held off NATO for all this time
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_00: and have come out pretty well in spite of sanctions, in spite of everything else.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_00: European officials congratulated the students and said they stood ready to help
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_00: the country fight corruption.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: Of course they did.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_00: Sounds great.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_00: But again, remember what Brian said.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure the student list will find a way,
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_00: just as they have so far, to choose someone capable of governing.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_00: Someone who will have the privilege,
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: but also the immense responsibility to lead Serbia through these reforms,
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: says Savo Manojlović.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_00: Manojlović of the student-friendly Move Change Movement.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: And I think Brian actually reported that the Move Change movement,
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: if I remember correctly, was one of the four here.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_00: No, that's not it.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_00: But these are the four ACK-led Armed Conflict Location and Event Data Project
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: through NPR,
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: the Global Resilience Fund,
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_00: the United Media Group,
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_00: U.S.-funded Front promoting them,
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, the BBC and Radio Free Europe and Radio Libera.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, now, finally, I wanted to bring...
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_00: Now, on top of all of it, here's how I know it's an op.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_00: NAFO is promoting this.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_00: Hannah for NAFO has the most beautiful video.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_00: Beautiful in both sentiment, but also in quality of video because somebody set up in the square.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: Somebody knew that that was going to be there.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: Somebody captured it and somebody put it out.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to play this video because if you see how well this looks, look at that scene.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_00: That is not done by accident.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: And that's not.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_00: You don't,
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: that's a photographer setting up specifically that knows that there's going to be
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: an incredible shot there.
• 22:13
  [music]
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: The revolution's got flags, it's got a song.
• 22:27
  [music]
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's very colorful, isn't it?
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: Color me a skeptic.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: Color revolution me a skeptic.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_01: But again, it's Nafo celebrating, which also
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_00: makes me skeptical of the whole thing.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what to think about all of this.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: I really don't.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: What about the dock worker strike?
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: The upcoming dock worker strike?
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_00: Which one?
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: The one across Europe?
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: I haven't reported on that yet.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: But yes, fucking NAFO founder was a Nazi supporter before.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_00: So all of these elements coming together.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_00: Fuck NAFO.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_00: So many years at war with them on Twitter,
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_00: like four or five years now we've been doing this with them.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_00: They put so many in so many Russian bot groups.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_00: I've just, I blocked them the minute they put it.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_00: They put me in a group like that or on a list.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_00: The Reverend Joe Blank has been targeted by NAFO for so long.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_00: So long.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: And, and yeah, it's, it's just wild.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_00: This war started in 2023.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: Which war?
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_00: You talking about Serbia?
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_00: Or in Russia, Ukraine, which was 2022?
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_00: But Serbia, I mean, again, Serbia,
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_00: apparently they said the thing triggered started when there was a collapse
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: of something in 2024.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_00: You meant Ukraine.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I got you.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: Right, exactly.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: It didn't just happen in 2023, exactly.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_00: It was 2014, Maidan stuff.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, again,
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: I tend to trust what Brian's take is on this,
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_00: that there was NED funding and involvement,
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_00: and it could have been
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_00: the students could be the front for all of this.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_00: But I still think that the big bad CIA is somewhere not far in the background.
• 25:13
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• 25:17
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• 25:22
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• 26:50
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• 27:01
  SPEAKER_03: No!
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_03: We just fucking lost the stream!
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_03: I guess this isn't such an awful place Is that what you want me to say?
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_03: You'll prove it's possible to sleep for days And I still think you're right here away.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_03: The cost of living isn't much to make.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_03: But God, it's so hard to save.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_03: And when they told you everything, I said, were you safe?
• 27:37
  Were you safe?
• 27:38
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