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INTERVIEW: Rapman Speaks On 'Supacell' Series, Black Superheroes, Sickle Cell Research, Roc Nation Deal + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 3: Morning, everybody, It's DJ Envy, just hilarious, charlamage the guy.
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  Speaker 3: We are the breakfast club. We got a special guest
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  Speaker 3: in the building. Yes, right, you got Rapman welcome.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 2: My big thank you for having man.
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  Speaker 4: Rapman is the creator and director of a Netflix show
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  Speaker 4: that had me in a choke hold during vacation called Supercell.
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  Speaker 4: From July eighth to July fourteenth, he was the number
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  Speaker 4: one No, you're the most watched show on Netflix.
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  Speaker 2: That's been two weeks at number.
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  Speaker 1: One, two weeks not number one?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, seven one million views. How I feel, my brother.
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  Speaker 1: I had not.
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  Speaker 5: I felt it felt humbling, man, but it felt good.
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  Speaker 5: I ain't gonna lie to put a big smile on
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  Speaker 5: my face.
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  Speaker 2: How are you this morning?
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  Speaker 5: Hey bro, I'm on Breakfast Club with you at Envy.
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  Speaker 5: I'm feeding like I've made it right now. I'm been
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  Speaker 5: this morning. You know, coming from London, these type of
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  Speaker 5: rooms here, we can only see it on YouTube. No,
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  Speaker 5: we see these RUMs on YouTube. We don't get into
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  Speaker 5: these rooms. So I'm not even gonna say it in
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  Speaker 5: front of lot.
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  Speaker 1: This is a mind.
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  Speaker 5: They're like, yeah, I'm on Breakfast Club, so I'm feeling good.
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  Speaker 3: Let's who is rapman? Where the rap men come from?
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  Speaker 3: Because you started off as a rap Let's let's go
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  Speaker 3: through the career for people that don't know who rap
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  Speaker 3: man is.
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  Speaker 5: All right, well, I was just just like every other
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  Speaker 5: guy in South London trying to rap. But them days,
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  Speaker 5: our UK rap scene was it weren't where it is now.
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  Speaker 5: So we're trying to sound like Big, We're trying to
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  Speaker 5: sound like Jay and Packs. We're rapping with the accent
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  Speaker 5: them days, and there was another form of music called
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  Speaker 5: garage and grime. But I love rap so much. I
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  Speaker 5: was always rapping with the American accents. I got the
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  Speaker 5: nickname rap man from a young age. So my thing
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  Speaker 5: is though, I was the type of person that would
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  Speaker 5: love give me the lute on the album, expect to
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  Speaker 5: see the music video to that, but the video will
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  Speaker 5: never come out. I would listen to Jay's album Inspector here,
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  Speaker 5: see the video for a week ago, and it will
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  Speaker 5: never come out.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, why they never do the music video
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  Speaker 1: to the story?
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  Speaker 2: Every day?
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  Speaker 1: I like the story. That was my thing, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but it's never the visual.
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  Speaker 5: When I start rapping, I'm going to do the visuals
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  Speaker 5: to them, make them that short films. So when I
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  Speaker 5: started doing music, I started doing these short films. They
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  Speaker 5: were like musically narrated short videos, man. And I was
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  Speaker 5: doing it for years for fun for people in my neighborhood,
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  Speaker 5: and it just started growing and growing and growing into
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  Speaker 5: I've done one called Shryl Story that went viral all
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  Speaker 5: through the UK, landed in my boy James Samuel's hands,
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  Speaker 5: who was then put it in jay Z's hands entire
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  Speaker 5: tires hands and the next thing and our meeting jay
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  Speaker 5: Z entire time.
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  Speaker 1: They saw me to the nation and they said, what
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  Speaker 1: do you want to do now that you're with us?
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  Speaker 3: I tell you a rag Nations as a rapper at
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  Speaker 3: the time.
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  Speaker 5: No nah, they saw they saw the vision as a
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  Speaker 5: filmmaker something. I'm with them as a filmmaker. So and
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  Speaker 5: they said, what do you want to do? So I
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  Speaker 5: got a TV show man, I got idea for a
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  Speaker 5: TV show like hole Pitch. It wasn't super soll it's
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  Speaker 5: another show. So they took me out to LA and
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  Speaker 5: they pitched. I pitched it everywhere every studio you can
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  Speaker 5: think of, FX who who, Amazon? No one wanted it,
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  Speaker 5: but Netflix said, yeah, we love it, but because they're
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  Speaker 5: sitting in the UK, you got to go back to
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  Speaker 5: the UK and pitch it down there. So I went
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  Speaker 5: back to the UK Picture Show. She didn't want it,
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  Speaker 5: but she says she's a big fan. Let's keep in touch.
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  Speaker 5: That's like that didn't mean that to me. I thought, okay,
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  Speaker 5: I felt it didn't work.
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  Speaker 3: Now is that the night that they asked they wanted
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  Speaker 3: to take it to dinner? And you said, I want
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  Speaker 3: to go to the most expensive restaurant and get to that.
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  Speaker 1: I take too much time.
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  Speaker 5: So anyway, I moved on with my life and I've
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  Speaker 5: wrote a movie called Blue Story, done really well in
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  Speaker 5: the UK, but before it came out, there was a
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  Speaker 5: big marketing campaign campaign on it. So Netflix said, look,
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  Speaker 5: we want to take you out. I'm like, hey, I'm
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  Speaker 5: going to rinse this. I picked the most expensive restaurant
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  Speaker 5: I could find and I went there and I was
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  Speaker 5: just eating that free food man, and in between the
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  Speaker 5: food they told me it was a general So I'm
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  Speaker 5: just there eating, but they kept on asking me questions
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  Speaker 5: like what do you want to do next?
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  Speaker 1: Was like, I don't know. I want to see what
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  Speaker 1: the film does but have you got any ideas for
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  Speaker 1: a show? So I got one.
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  Speaker 5: Idea and who was this with Netflix? The RGNI this
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  Speaker 5: is Netflix, okay. So I gave them some idea and
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  Speaker 5: said that's all right. I said, we've got anything else.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, this is one of those meetings. I thought,
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  Speaker 5: I just came to eat food and catch up. So
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  Speaker 5: with the food and my I was still in my mouth,
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  Speaker 5: say look, I got this idea about people from my
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  Speaker 5: part of London, South London, and they get powers. It
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  Speaker 5: ain't like your capespan dex. These these people are getting
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  Speaker 5: from real things. And they went quiet and I looked
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  Speaker 5: up and it looked like ching. It's not that there was
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  Speaker 5: duller signs of that, as I said, okay, so he's
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  Speaker 5: a lot that one, and they just want me to
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  Speaker 5: develop it from there.
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  Speaker 1: And then fast forward four years.
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  Speaker 4: I don't believe that you're You're not gonna make me
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  Speaker 4: believe that you sat down with somebody and told them
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  Speaker 4: you wanted to make an all black show which people
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  Speaker 4: with sickle cells superpowers and it's science fiction and they
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  Speaker 4: got it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone else would have made it. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it might.
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  Speaker 5: Have helped that the head if the UK Netflix does
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  Speaker 5: look like me and you.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, that might be that might have helped.
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  Speaker 5: But I think it was such a point that the
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  Speaker 5: UK's never had anything like it, so it was just
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  Speaker 5: like it could really go left, or this could really work,
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  Speaker 5: and I think she was ready to take that chance.
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  Speaker 4: Now, I don't want to give too much away from Supercell,
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  Speaker 4: but I do got a lot of questions because I
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  Speaker 4: really did enjoy this show. You know, you know, it
• 5:00
  Speaker 4: was so crazy. My wife turned it on and like
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  Speaker 4: we was on vacation. So I'm laying in bed and
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  Speaker 4: my wife goes, oh, look at Coupy, and so I
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  Speaker 4: opened my eyes.
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  Speaker 1: I have big up comfy and I.
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  Speaker 4: Go, oh, that's Coupy. I said, company's on this show.
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  Speaker 4: So that's what That's what really made me.
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  Speaker 1: That's good. We got coffee on that. That's nice.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, she she reached out years ago and that said
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  Speaker 5: she wants to work with me, and I said she's not.
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  Speaker 5: Our actress said I'm signing for you, and she was.
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  Speaker 5: She came off the plane from where she was out
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  Speaker 5: of the country just to do that.
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  Speaker 1: S man.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's so funny.
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  Speaker 4: I text her right and I go yo, I said,
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  Speaker 4: we're sitting there, we're on vacation, were watching this show.
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  Speaker 4: I just saw you on it. And she texted back
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  Speaker 4: and she was like, oh, that's love. She was like, man,
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  Speaker 4: rat Man is amazing, and I'm like, that's not the
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  Speaker 4: name of the show. And so when the show's over
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  Speaker 4: and then it goes Ratman, I'm like, oh, okay, the show.
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  Speaker 2: But where did the concept of super still come from?
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  Speaker 4: Because I read in the Hollywood Reporter the death of
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  Speaker 4: George Floyd was in inspiration.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so it was twenty twenty when the pandemic just
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  Speaker 5: kicked him and Jeorge fled obviously, and obviously I know
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  Speaker 5: how it felt over here obviously, but that user weren't
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  Speaker 5: alone in that feeling. In the UK and probably the
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  Speaker 5: rest of the world, we just felt like it's just
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  Speaker 5: one step too far now, it's just too much. And
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  Speaker 5: a lot of people like artists and prayers were guiding
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  Speaker 5: into central London to protest. People protest and that is
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  Speaker 5: the best way I can use my platform to make
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  Speaker 5: this to uplift black people because it was just a
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  Speaker 5: sad time in London at that time, like, and I
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  Speaker 5: didn't know how long TV takes. I think, you know what,
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  Speaker 5: if I write this TV show now, it could probably
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  Speaker 5: be out by the end of the year, and you know,
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  Speaker 5: blacks of feel like we're superpower. So that's when I
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  Speaker 5: started writing it. So I started writing it, started writing
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  Speaker 5: it for motivated by Jorge Flood, and then I wanted
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  Speaker 5: to I wanted a superpower that came from something real,
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  Speaker 5: and sickle cell, to me, was always something I never
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  Speaker 5: understood that, like, why is there disease that genuinely puts
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  Speaker 5: dark skin tones in a weak position of weakness? Never
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  Speaker 5: I never understood that. I said, nah, man, I need
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  Speaker 5: to spin this on his head. Because another thing. You
• 7:01
  Speaker 5: walk into a room with ten people and if you
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  Speaker 5: ask them about sickle cell, if more than three people
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  Speaker 5: put their hand up, you're in a great room. Because
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  Speaker 5: most people don't know nothing about it. And that's even
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  Speaker 5: our own community. They would tend that they do, but
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  Speaker 5: a lot people don't know nothing about it. I said,
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  Speaker 5: I can I make this a thing of power? How
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  Speaker 5: can I raise awareness and thinking? You know, if there's
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  Speaker 5: something that can make us weak, there must be something
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  Speaker 5: that can make us strong. And as a parent, if
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  Speaker 5: I was having to live with sickle cell, that would
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  Speaker 5: make me weak and tired and hurt and pain, but
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  Speaker 5: it would make my kid extraordinary.
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  Speaker 1: I'll take that, thugh.
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  Speaker 2: Why sickle selling in particular, though, Like.
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  Speaker 5: I knew I knew one girl and every time that
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  Speaker 5: she wouldn't come into college, and I always like, why
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  Speaker 5: are you never turning up? Why are you never telling that?
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  Speaker 5: She's like, oh, I've got sickle cell, And she was all,
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  Speaker 5: every two weeks she'll be in hospital. And she showed
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  Speaker 5: me like a whole bag of her blood transfusion and
• 7:49
  Speaker 5: this was like a massive, massive You said, you're taking
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  Speaker 5: this amount of blood every two weeks, and it was
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  Speaker 5: crazy to me. And I ended up going down the
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  Speaker 5: rabbit hole about it, trying to figure out where it
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  Speaker 5: came from. And there's no real answers, but it was
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  Speaker 5: the only factor. Is it predominantly affects darker skin. I
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  Speaker 5: was like, no, if someone a gonna give me, we're
• 8:05
  Speaker 5: gonna have to get people talking, man. So it always
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  Speaker 5: stuck in the back of my head. So soon as
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  Speaker 5: I've got the opportunity, I just opened the door in it.
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  Speaker 4: You're a hip hop head, so it's like you know
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  Speaker 4: all of us first, Well, I'm not gonna say first
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  Speaker 4: hurt the Cicka Seale, but Prodigy and I'm gonna was the.
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  Speaker 3: First first time looked made me look into it when
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  Speaker 3: I heard Prodigy had it.
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  Speaker 5: First time I ever heard it was when Pac said,
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  Speaker 5: ain't one of y'all got sickle cell? And that's the
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  Speaker 5: first time I ever heard the word. And then I
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  Speaker 5: started realizing that t B had it.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, they did a record together, Prodigy and
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  Speaker 4: t bars Uh. I think it was called Never Feel
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  Speaker 4: My Pain. I remember that record. It was it was
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  Speaker 4: it was a record about them having seat. Maybe they
• 8:45
  Speaker 4: was supposed to do it.
• 8:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: No Prodigy did the song, and I think t BO
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  Speaker 4: was supposed to be on it, but she didn't get
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  Speaker 4: on the hook of song.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it was. That's what it was.
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  Speaker 3: I was watching you on the Winter's Talking podcast and
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  Speaker 3: you was talking about how sometimes, especially when they do
• 9:01
  Speaker 3: films in London, it doesn't translate to the US, and
• 9:03
  Speaker 3: you really wanted something to translate to the US. Why
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  Speaker 3: was that so important to you?
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  Speaker 5: It's the biggest playing field, like it's it's I love
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  Speaker 5: the UK. I must sleep pro pried London now. But
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  Speaker 5: you know you're not really, you can't really fly if
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  Speaker 5: you're only doing it in the smallest stage, you know,
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  Speaker 5: and US is the biggest stage, you know. So I'm thinking,
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  Speaker 5: if I can get it to connect outside of the
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  Speaker 5: UK and the US, I can keep on telling stories,
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  Speaker 5: you know.
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  Speaker 1: And I didn't water it down so the slang's harsh.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't try to make it feasible for
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  Speaker 1: your airs.
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  Speaker 5: I kind of want to use that to learn the
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  Speaker 5: language that when I used to watch the YR, I
• 9:37
  Speaker 5: learned their language. So I didn't want to worry that
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  Speaker 5: even though I fit Netflix thinking that you're going to
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  Speaker 5: get as a hope. So that's why I was worried
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  Speaker 5: because it wasn't I didn't even try to make it
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  Speaker 5: appealing to the States that I could have given all
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  Speaker 5: the gang members guns all the time, like how it was.
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  Speaker 5: It's not really like that. Let me just do it
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  Speaker 5: exactly how it is a hole that they learn. So yeah, man,
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  Speaker 5: I feel like I want to fly and I want
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  Speaker 5: to swim the biggest fun.
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  Speaker 4: Then it's that's what I love about it, right, because
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  Speaker 4: you know, I want to know your world. I know
• 10:05
  Speaker 4: the street world over here is the same reason I
• 10:07
  Speaker 4: like Top Boy. I want to ask you, you know,
• 10:09
  Speaker 4: about something like Top Boy. It was a great show,
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  Speaker 4: but it didn't really get success until later. So I
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  Speaker 4: think super Cell popped off so fair.
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  Speaker 5: I think I think Top Bay, I think Top Boy
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  Speaker 5: done well. I think the reason I think it was
• 10:23
  Speaker 5: just I think it's because the top by super Cell
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  Speaker 5: done well. I think by the time you've seen top
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  Speaker 5: where you understand our language a bit more a dialect,
• 10:30
  Speaker 5: and you know, you see our artists coming through, artists
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  Speaker 5: that central seed. I think the culture from the UK
• 10:35
  Speaker 5: is starting to seep in a bit more.
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  Speaker 1: It's starting to blend in.
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  Speaker 5: So the time super Cell comes out, you're used to
• 10:40
  Speaker 5: the voice a bit more of the accent.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it was just timing mine.
• 10:43
  Speaker 5: You know, I believe everything's timing in life, and for that,
• 10:46
  Speaker 5: this was the perfect time.
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: Now, I definitely I love the concept. So you basically
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: came up with the concept eating, so it wasn't something
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: that you pre thought. This was like you're just eating
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  Speaker 3: and sh.
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  Speaker 1: The walls weren't that thing before.
• 11:00
  Speaker 5: But before that conversation with Netflix, I was doing promotion
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  Speaker 5: for my movie and one of the cast members asked
• 11:06
  Speaker 5: me on camera, whatere you're gonna do next. You're just
• 11:08
  Speaker 5: gonna keep on doing the hood stuff. I said, yeah, maybe,
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  Speaker 5: but I want to flip on his head and the
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  Speaker 5: about people with powers. And that's the first time I
• 11:15
  Speaker 5: ever spoke it. I had no concept of what it
• 11:17
  Speaker 5: would be, so it's stuck in my head. So when
• 11:19
  Speaker 5: Netflix asked me like a month later, it was just
• 11:22
  Speaker 5: still there and I just scaveing to them what I
• 11:24
  Speaker 5: said to them, and they they actually could make it.
• 11:26
  Speaker 5: Someone asking me, who's your friends? Like you asking me, Now,
• 11:29
  Speaker 5: that's dope, but someone who actually does that for the
• 11:31
  Speaker 5: living presses the green button on the TV show asked me.
• 11:34
  Speaker 5: I was probably a bit more eloquent with how I
• 11:36
  Speaker 5: was delivering it, and it just sold.
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: The dope thing about it is the investment that they
• 11:39
  Speaker 3: put right, because it's not like a movie that, Okay,
• 11:42
  Speaker 3: you just film in London and go. You got special effects,
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: you got people doing their own stunts, and you got
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: greet Is. Talk about some of that, because I've seen
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: some of that behind the scenes. For the of all
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: the stuff that it took to make the movie and
• 11:55
  Speaker 3: to make the flick, Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: You know what, and for London that was a big
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  Speaker 5: budget show. Like it's not don't get to say, ain't
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  Speaker 5: no Game of Thrones budget, but for the UK, they
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  Speaker 5: don't normally put that type of money.
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  Speaker 1: In show, especially when the cast looks like that. So
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  Speaker 1: that's what I've got.
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  Speaker 3: To do with a black cast.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly what I'm what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: So I think I remember saying to them, if I'm
• 12:13
  Speaker 5: going to do this, you have to let me do
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  Speaker 5: it right. Let me just swing as high as I
• 12:17
  Speaker 5: came with this, as hard as I can, and let
• 12:19
  Speaker 5: me just try with it. Don't give me the half
• 12:21
  Speaker 5: budget and it gives me enough I can least do it.
• 12:23
  Speaker 5: And I think she when she made the decision to
• 12:26
  Speaker 5: do it, she does agreed. She said, cool, whatever it is,
• 12:28
  Speaker 5: do what you want to do with it. Let's just
• 12:30
  Speaker 5: see what happens.
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  Speaker 3: What was the budget?
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: Actually, can't I can tell you off camera. I can't
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: tell you that a.
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: Fake nurse taken.
• 12:40
  Speaker 5: Think about that because sometimes what they do see if
• 12:43
  Speaker 5: it's a ship where it's not moving, it's just if
• 12:45
  Speaker 5: someone just carrying it. We can use a real nurse,
• 12:48
  Speaker 5: but anytime you see anybody swinging, we can't take the risks.
• 12:50
  Speaker 4: When Michael gets that in the chest, I don't want getaid, but.
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: That might make someone to watch.
• 12:56
  Speaker 5: I'm the type of person all conversation leads to curiosity,
• 13:00
  Speaker 5: so I don't ask me mind I don't do spiders.
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: I don't mind that.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to do spoilers.
• 13:03
  Speaker 4: But when I think about Michael and how he kept
• 13:07
  Speaker 4: trying to change the future, like, do you believe that
• 13:11
  Speaker 4: your fate is already said? I don't want give some money,
• 13:13
  Speaker 4: but do you believe your fate is already said?
• 13:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 13:16
  Speaker 5: And if you've seen it to the end, and you've
• 13:17
  Speaker 5: seen how it ends, And that's the reason why I
• 13:20
  Speaker 5: feel like it ends like that. I feel like, no
• 13:21
  Speaker 5: matter what you might be able to, I don't say
• 13:25
  Speaker 5: too much, but I do believe that.
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 13:27
  Speaker 5: That's to ask your question to make with that, and
• 13:29
  Speaker 5: the answer is yes, I do believe that what's meant
• 13:31
  Speaker 5: to be will be. But I still feel like you
• 13:33
  Speaker 5: have to you still have to push for the direction
• 13:37
  Speaker 5: you want to go, Like I believe one day I'll
• 13:40
  Speaker 5: be sitting here with people.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: Like yourself and doing what I'm doing with Netflix.
• 13:43
  Speaker 5: But it wouldn't have been if I decided just to
• 13:45
  Speaker 5: hang on the block with my people and not stay
• 13:47
  Speaker 5: in to write and not go here to learn. So
• 13:50
  Speaker 5: I feel like you do have to. You have to
• 13:52
  Speaker 5: go seventy percent of the way at least in hold On.
• 13:55
  Speaker 4: You said the end. Now, you gotta have these seasons
• 13:58
  Speaker 4: mapped out, right. I can't the way I've got.
• 14:01
  Speaker 5: I've got a free season story in my head. Okay, yes,
• 14:03
  Speaker 5: I've got free season story in my head. Not saying
• 14:05
  Speaker 5: it can't go further, but I've got three seasons where
• 14:08
  Speaker 5: I know where it goes.
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: Because I need to know why this is happening. Why
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: are these people getting snatched up? You're trying not to
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: give it away. I'm just trying to figure out what's
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: the overall goal Netflix.
• 14:20
  Speaker 5: If Netflix pressed the button on it, I will promise
• 14:22
  Speaker 5: you all your questions will be answer.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: Rodney's white mama doctor whom I wouldn't be pleased about that.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: Because he was half black.
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: Did you intentionally want to shine light on the on
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: the biracial struggle?
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: I been saying why black man, rat man? Because because
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: they go through it, man, they go through it. You
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: know people I know.
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: I know, I see what it's like, you know, and
• 14:45
  Speaker 5: something you know some you know, they sometimes they come
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: across like you're not you're not black enough, and they
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: probably go to the white chi parts and tell them
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: you're not white enough. So it must just be hard man.
• 14:54
  Speaker 5: And I've witnessed it through the words. So my people
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: telling me and I said, na, you mustill. I wanted
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: to show that. So so you got sympathy for Drake,
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: I mean, jesus, I mean I'm a Drake fan bro, Like,
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: I feel like you don't need no sympathy.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: He's rich and unsuccessful and he's good.
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: When Kendrick was saying those things about him, like you
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: can't say nigga no more and hurting your feelings.
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: I mean, I was just too busy with my hands, like, hey,
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: so I was.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: I wasn't really, I wasn't taking it, you know. I
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: was the music bro. I wasn't there to sign with you.
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: I don't know them personally, so I'm just there as
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: a fan to see who's putting out the best music.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: One time, there was a conversation about British actors taking
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: over the US and some of the US actors were upset,
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: just some of the actors. So what is your thoughts
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: on that and would you use American actors one hundred percent.
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: I would use American actors if they fit the wrong
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: I don't think people should be mad at that. You
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: we grew up with nothing on TV screens except for
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: American accent TV shows and movie, so well we.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Took him was your accent. That's why we can do it.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: And so when we get these roles and they study
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: acting a lot in the UK. I don't say they're
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: not doing the US, but it's a big thing in
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: the UK to go to drama school, like you have
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: to do your three years and then your masters. So
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: the actors can come over like Idris and Damn Sir
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: and all these other actors can come over and do
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: this because they can. But Bro I was chatting to
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: someone the other day. She was doing an American girl.
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: She was doing the UK accent just to watching Top
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: Boy in Supersar. So I was I was saying, ten
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: years from now, maybe five, they're gonna be coming to.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Steal our jobs.
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: You know, we're just a bit ahead because we've had
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: you on our screen for longer. Give it ten years,
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: more years, ten more seasons of Super Sol. You're gonna
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: be a people coming to take hard jobs.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: I go from.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: But that's my eleven year old thing. My eleven year
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: olds the learning accent. And every time she orders something
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: from Uber eat or somebody picks up, she uses that
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: accent and she thinks she from London, like her name
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: is London, which is bro And.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: I think they're starting. It's starting to happen. So you're
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: doing it first of all as a joke. But imagine
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: if you actually are your little one wants to act.
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: If your little one comes in and can kill the accent,
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: and I'm giving her the role. I don't care if
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: she lives over here, when she lives over there, I
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: want the best person for this role.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: So it's gonna happen.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: But you said something that you said people doing it
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: at first for a joke, right, That's what Kendrick was
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: mad at Drake about.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: What he but he Kendricks, but Jake wraps in his
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Canadian accent.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Right, you don't you show London.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: But London the London swang.
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: I don't know if people know it, but they see
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: the London swang and the Canadian swang.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: It's they're basically the same. We use the same slang.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Think I never want the app to this day.
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: I don't know why, and I didn't know until I
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: used to think, why is Drake talking like us? But
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: then when I met people from I said, Oh, that's
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: how they talk.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: They use the same fan cause blood, they talk like
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: we do.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: I don't know if it's because they grew up closer
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: to us than the America world. I don't understand it,
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: but it is the slang. It wasn't just Drake trying
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: to jump in on the community. And I'm not here
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: to defend anybody, but I know that that's just how
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: they talk.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: You know, another connection and people don't usually make the
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: connection at least I see between London and like Nigeria.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: A massive I'm Nigeria.
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: A lot of it is like for my parents the
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: minute over there when your better life is in the UK.
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: So you had a lot of people go to America,
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: but a lot of Nigerians live in London, you know. So,
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: and it's just because my mom and dad would just
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: tell me that. You know that, my grandparents will tell
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: them if you get well, go to London and you
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: can have a better life for your family. So in
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: the in the UK, Caribbean, African that's where predominantly more
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: to the way of the blacks.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: Off from what what's the better storytelling outlet for you?
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: Music and TV TV?
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: And I'll tell you why, other than the fact that
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: you know, rapping is such a super skill and I.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Feel like I was okay, but I wasn't z or Biggie.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: And it's funny. I don't even think you have to
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: be there normal. You just need to.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: You just need a flipping, a gimmick or hook or
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: an angle. But the thing we can do with TV
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: and film, I've got a bigger platform. I've got a
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: bigger canvas to paint. Like when I was trying to
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: do a song in five minutes, it was just like
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: I got so much more deails I want to say
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: about the.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Storey or the character.
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: When I get a canvas like film and TV, I
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: can stretch you out, make you feel emotion, get you
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: connected to the character.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: So for me, I'm well, I meant to be mine.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: I'm happy here, and I was wanting to keep them
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: paying these big canvases.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: Another thing about this show, and I know there's probably
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: some symbolism and this. All of the main characters superpowers.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: They come out when they seem like they're under extreme
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: stress and when they're.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: All near each other.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: Yes, So the thing I get from that is Black
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: people we definitely perform well underpressure.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: We make the best out of the worst situations.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: And unity and group operation I think brings out the
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: best in us as well.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I agree with that.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: And my main thing was literally with the pressure thing,
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: I feel like we only ever do become our best
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: version when we get to that peak where we think,
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: but it's that line, it's how you're gonna fall under.
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: But if you go over, that's when the greatness comes.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: And I think that's why when it's kind of single
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: swimming or fight or flight what they say, that's when
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: it comes out. That's why if you see everyone in
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: the airs when they when they were at their last
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: string and then boom, that's when it happens.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, iver, you want to ask you stuff,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: but them I'm like, am I gonna give it away?
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Can't give it?
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: But you know, it's been three four weeks in.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: People more and more now I haven't seen the whole thing,
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: so people are hearing more. Yeah, that's true.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: It's true.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: It's true that when I heard somebody else be like, yo,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: you gotta watch it. I'm like, I watch it some
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: of the international movies. I'm like, am I gonna be
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: cool with the accident first? And like now you can
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: get it, you know what I mean?
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: No, No, that's fair enough. That's fair enough, and it's
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: true we do want it to carry on a good thing.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: With the shows like this, there's like a nighty day
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: window to get into the top view of all time
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: and I don't know if we're heading for that or not,
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: because it's you know, you need to get black ninety
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: million views. We're on like twenty five, which is crazy
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: for a UK show. But basically they Netflix do you
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: monitor all for three four months, so it's not like
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: it's not like a music release an album and you've
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: got like the first opening week to really decide if
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: it's a hit or not. It will works like that Netflix,
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: So I don't want to spoil too much, but enough
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: to get people to want to watch.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: There's people with the super cell collecting other people with
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: the super cell, right, yes, but they're collecting them on
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: behalf of white people.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: Yep, I knew that. You It's funny. I saw big
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: up Vince Staple. I never I don't met him, but
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: I never met him, but I saw him tweet YO,
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: those supercoons had me shocked.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: That was crazy. I was laughing at that lot.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: I can't believe it, but you know, I literally was
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: laughing at that line when I saw that tweet. But
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: the thing with that, it's funny because I've only ever
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: been asked about this one one of an interview. We
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: are the talent, we are the culture, we are the heart.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: We bring the energy, we bring the vibe. But do
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: we not dance for the people for the other side,
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: And it's just you can't escape it. I don't know
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: if it's because where we are based we are not
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: the majority, but where we are and where we are
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: shining no matter how great we are, Like I don't
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: want to start blowing up and cut, but use I
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: should really do use on this place. These are own
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like you you when I
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: think of this, I think of you guys.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: You have the power.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: But I don't know how much power you've got, but
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: I'm assuming there's always someone on top who you can't
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: do that or envy. That's a bit much in fourteen years,
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: then you're g a lot of people ain't got there.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: We we've been lucky, we haven't how much other.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: People do you know who is just as famous and
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: such as you who are still got astairs.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: And I've and I've carved out my own entity here
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: called the Black Effect Podcast Network.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Let me come on that. Then we can really chop
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: it up.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: I would love to do a super cell podcast, bro,
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: like when you breaking like you're breaking down each episode people,
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: I would love that.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: When you're already bro, we can really go off on
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: that lap probably done. Yeah, yeah, let's do that. Let's
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: do that.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Let's do that.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Let's do that, Let's do it, Let's do that. Yeah.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Now, congratulations, you got one hundred percent critics score on
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Written Tomatoes. You that, which is not easy. We just
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: seen with Tyler Perry. His didn't didn't do as well.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: So the fact that you got one hundred percent is great.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: But I was gonna ask it took four years to
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: do this one, so when season two is it gonna
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: be another four years?
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Nah?
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: And it won't because a lot of that is breaking
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: the world, getting the characters right. Because the world is
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: you know the world, you know the characters, It won't
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: take as long. How long it will take it just
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: the preends and how soon they pressed the button.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: They won't take us long, won't take us long.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: And you say you got three seasons, three seasons of story?
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: In my head, why is three the proper number of
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: the end on?
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't know, maybe I'm a man.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: When I watch anything that goes past three three parts,
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: I feel like if they pushed the battle but then
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: it get shows like The Wire, I feel like I
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: could have taken another season there. So it just depends
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: the good thing about the super Cell world it never stops.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: Because Sickle Cells is in the US, it's in Africa.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: I can take it everywhere, so I can it can
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: go one. But for my group of characters that I've
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: created so far, I've got a free story plan for them.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: This is so ill though, because I thought I was
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: going to talk to you and you was going to
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: tell me like your mother, your grandmother or somebody you know,
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: just the fact that you you care about it because
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: it impacts so many black people.
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: Bro, How can there be something that only affects you
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: because of your black bro?
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: They're not crazy that.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: It's like, I feel like we need to ask more questions. Now,
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: why is no one asking where did this come from?
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: Why is no one asking why bro skinny skin? Don't
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: get the culture comes with how you're raised, But how
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: dark your skin is and how light your skin is
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: shouldn't make a difference to a disease.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: I guess I've never done the knowledge to it to
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: even know that. I never even thought that sickle cell
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: was just a disease.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: They say it predominantly affects black and there is some
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: other races, but I personally have never met someone that's
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: not black with it.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I'm so, but I never understood it.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: So I'm hoping now the conversation is out there, maybe
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: people might do some proper research and they find out
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: what the answer is.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: How can we bring more awareness to the disease?
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: You think with what you're doing right now is already
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: doing it.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: There's sickle cell convention is pretty often I think just
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: mention it like that's think everyone does talk about. I
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: have a conversation, maybe get someone who's living with it
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: on the show, like beause there's a lot of people
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: in power or whatever who are living with this.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: We've definitely had Prodigy Ante Bottle on over the.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: The conversation just don't happen enough.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: Like it's funny that episode of Power came out and
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: they mentioned it this week, and I thought, that's weird,
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: right close to super So the conversation to stick a
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: sells out on two Properer shows, but normally no one
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: talks about it. Man, Like when I was doing this
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: show in the UK, all of their execs had to
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: do the research minus my main exec whose brothers got it.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: But everybody else they have to do the research. No
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: one knew what they was making, you know, So I
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: just think keep the conversation. Guy, man like you blood drives.
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: You know, it's that someone like you use yourself turned
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: up to blood Drives. That would be crazy, you know,
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: just shinning that man.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: You said that I got a few questions about Rabbit.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: I gotta go to you, gotta leave, you, gotta go.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I just want to know that, Like, I have a
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: few questions.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: But like one question I had for you is you
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: said that the execut Netflix knew you in the UK.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: So what level of rapper were you in the UK? Like,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: who was comparable to you?
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: Okay, I wasn't known because I was, like, okay, the
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: biggest rapper in the UK.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Rat nice.
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: But essentially at that time, it wasn't wasn't cross over.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: It's probably storm zy gigs love.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So but shyyh story what I done. It was this
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  Speaker 5: particular project that was massive. It was the biggest thing
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  Speaker 5: in the UK for years. And this is not sounding
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  Speaker 5: like I'm glowing. It was just it had the whole
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: world in the UK in a chokehol because everyone's waiting
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  Speaker 5: for the next part, because I was releasing parts like
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: every other month, so everybody was waiting. So, because this
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: is a quick example before I get pulled out, there
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: was a show called The Bodyguard that.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Was on BBC.
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  Speaker 5: It came on Netflix after a while, but it was
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: massive in the UK and it was BBC's biggest show
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  Speaker 5: for years, and it was out there finale. Okay, so
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: that finale was trending on Twitter in the UK, but
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: I didn't know about Bodyguard. So I released my final
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: part of Shower Story the same day. We trended above that.
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  Speaker 5: So all the breakfast shows, the daytime shows the next
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: day was like, so you was probably watching this and
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: it was a clip of The Bodyguard or wha cast,
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: good show, great show, but your kids were watching this
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: and it was a clip of Shadow Story that had
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: every single network in the UK, Netflix, everyone like, who
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: is this guy who can do something off their own
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  Speaker 5: back no money? Put it on YouTube and trend above
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  Speaker 5: the biggest show that the UK's got. It opened every door. Bro,
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: It's like a blessing that thing there because it fell
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: into so much people's hands, which and then that's how
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: I was massive. So could a Shower story that was
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: before Shoo Story. I hardly nobody knew me come Sharrow Story.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: I was probably one of the hottest in the UK.
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: So if I'm in the UK, I could have been
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: maybe Hole. I mean, I could have been call at
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: that time. I could have been calling that time Big
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  Speaker 5: Three at that time, at that time. Okay, at that
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  Speaker 5: time I was at that I'm not gonna sit here
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  Speaker 5: and say I was. But for that moment where Showers
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: was out, everyone everyone, so the old the other rappers
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: was reaching out. Everybody reached out. It was just a
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: big deal, man. It was just a big deal at
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: the time.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: And I wanted to ask you about you know, because
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: you are with rock Nation and it's Lucy James. It
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: is something about London and Brooklyn. People from London have
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: a energy with people in Brooklyn.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: It's crazy because one of my good friends is tighter
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: so Ti James, I don't know, and when we took
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: we're together, we don't. We don't think that we're with
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: someone who's across the pun. It's like I'll tell title
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: the time, London and New York, bro they're basically at
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: the same place big and obviously the laws are different.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: But the reason why I could probably sit here and
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: chat to Youse all day because if we're it's so similar.
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: And I don't feel like that when I go to LA
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: But when I'm in New York, when I'll talk to
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: people from New York, it's just like I'm talking to
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  Speaker 5: someone from London.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: Because even when you say you love Biggie and Jay's music,
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: it's just like it seems like there's some type of connection.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't know why.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: But as I said, like I can sit down for
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: hours with me and Tyl with chat. I'm here with
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: just a name Jobs because that's actually my friend and
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: it's just normal yeah, yeah, big uptime and it's just
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: normal like me it.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know mine, It's like he knows.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know what that connection to have to tell me, bro,
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: But it does feel like that as well.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, Yeah, And it's just a passion that I
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: feel from you. It's a passion I feel when I
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: when I when I've interacted with James, it's just a
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: different type of energy. And I think it reflects in
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: your art in such a real way. And I really am.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: I just appreciate the way y'all tell black stories because
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: y'all tell black stories in a different way right like
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: here in America. It's like these execs want you to
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: tell black stories a certain way. A lot of times,
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: y'all always do it in a very unique way.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: I feel because people me and James Hazan, for we
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: was in that position where we didn't chase the industry.
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: They came to us because of what we was just
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: doing independently. So because we wasn't pursued. Because we was pursued,
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: it's like, Okay, if you want us to do it,
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: we're gonna do it this way, or we're to stay
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: doing it independently over here and trending over your biggest
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: shows on YouTube. So so it's like okay, So because
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: we came in with that position of kind of like
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: clout means we can just do what we kind of
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: in the UK, but I can't do it out of
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: her hair yet. So hopefully these numbers keep from writing
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: outs so I can do it over here as well.
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: But the good thing is now UK Netflix is international,
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: so I don't have to because it's still We're all
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: still talking about the same show that I made in London.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Congratulations, go watch super Cell and uh, you know, get
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: prepared for the super Cell podcast on the Black Reflect
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: podcast that work hosted by Ratman Big.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: I can bring some of my casting as well, That's
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: what I'm talking about.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: My cast man they want to roll up, so that
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: would be dope.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Those podcasts like that are big over here.
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: Like Bro, I am bro anything to push the narrative.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: As I said, I'm fans of you guys, and what
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: user of it she do with this? This was like
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: an outlet for black for the black culture across the
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: world because there's so many other things now, but we've
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: been seeing.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: This for decades.
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and we don't we know that this is the way
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: it began. So bro, anything can need to be a
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: part of it. I'm honest, mon, do it you have it.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: It's rat May we appreciate you for joining us. It's
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: the Breakfast Club. Good morning, wake that ass up in
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: the morning.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club