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First Impression - Good Witch · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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Speaker 1: This is a bramble Jam podcast.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark, a Hallmark review podcast. I'm
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Speaker 2: Megan and I'm a longtime Hallmark fan.
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Speaker 1: I'm Wendy. I'm a former Hallmark hater. Today we are
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Speaker 1: starting a brand new series called First Impressions, where we
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Speaker 1: review the pilot episodes of the series currently streaming on
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Speaker 1: but maybe you should. Let's find out before we hop
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Speaker 1: into our thoughts on our first First impressions, which is
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Speaker 1: Good Witch notably different from the Good Witch? Talk about it.
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Speaker 2: Goodwitch in my mind, I didn't realize so Goodwitch is
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Speaker 2: a series. It ran for seven seasons on Hallmark twenty
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Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty twenty one. However, preceding the episodic series,
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Speaker 2: they had seven movies that were all the Good Witch.
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Speaker 2: So perhaps they dropped the to make the series distinguishable
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Speaker 2: from the movies.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know why? I don't. That's my only
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Speaker 1: guess when you so, Megan texted me and she's like, Hey,
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Speaker 1: just FYI, there's seven movies before the episode start. Very
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Speaker 1: similar to kin well, not totally similar, but similar to
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Speaker 1: sein sealed delivered when we did that. Yeah, weird movies
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Speaker 1: and then episodes and then movies again. So when she
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Speaker 1: was trying to tell me like, oh, those are called
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Speaker 1: the good Witch and these are the episodes are just
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Speaker 1: called Goodwitch, I'm like, what why would they change the name.
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Speaker 1: That's so interesting. Yeah, I think it's got to be
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Speaker 1: just to distinguish the two, Like the good Witch are
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Speaker 1: the movies, and then Goodwitch is the series. What I
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Speaker 1: did in my research because you said there's seven movies
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Speaker 1: that came out before the seven seasons, lots of sevens here, guys.
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Speaker 1: There was also five additional movies during the seven year run.
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Speaker 1: So are those movies I'm going to google right now,
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Speaker 1: are those just called Goodwitch? Whatever? I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I think those are like special episodes, aren't they? Are
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Speaker 2: there actual movies?
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Speaker 1: Well? Chat GBT told me that they were movies, but yeah,
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Speaker 1: I kind of think they're not. Okay, this is what
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Speaker 1: I found. During the run of the good Witch television series.
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Speaker 1: From twenty fifteen to twenty one, Hallmark released five additional
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Speaker 1: made for TV movies, often referred to as the Halloween Specials.
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Speaker 1: These specials were typically aired around Halloween and considered part
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Speaker 1: of the good Witch franchise. So yeah, one, two, three, four, five, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they're all Halloween specials, I guess, but a length of
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Speaker 1: a movie, got it? Instead of the forty five minute
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Speaker 1: episode weird? This episode, for what it's worth, is also
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Speaker 1: the length of a movie, yes, which was kind of
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Speaker 1: bummed about. To be honest, I'm gonna get into it. Okay.
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Speaker 2: This was a Hallmark original series. Many of the series
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Speaker 2: that are available to stream on Hallmark are acquisitions, but
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Speaker 2: Goodwich was a Hallmark original series aired on Hallmark Channel,
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Speaker 2: created by Hallmark.
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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm guessing one of the titles that we have
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Speaker 1: forthcoming the FBI one is an acquisition, probably question Mark
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Speaker 1: question Mark. I think it probably is, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: although honestly it's not the craziest thing they've ever done.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess it's like a Canadian series that
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Speaker 1: was acquired. Got it all right? You want to run
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Speaker 1: down these news and notes? Sure? You want me to start.
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Speaker 1: Goodwitch was created by Craig Price and Sue Tenny. Craig
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Speaker 1: has thirty five directing credits, which include all seven of
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Speaker 1: the good Witch movies. He also wrote seventy three episodes
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Speaker 1: of the series. Sue Tinny is no stranger to Hallmark
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Speaker 1: and Hallmark Like series. She has been an executive producer
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Speaker 1: on series like Seventh Heaven, Cedar Cove, and Virgin River.
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Speaker 1: She was also a writer on all of those series
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Speaker 1: and is credited with sixty seven episodes of good Witch.
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Speaker 2: That's a lot of work, a lot of work. Catherine
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Speaker 2: Bell plays Cassie Nightingale Goodwitch herself. Cassie has been in
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Speaker 2: several long running series like Army Wives and Jag, as
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Speaker 2: well as movies like Bruce and Evan Almighty. Her most
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Speaker 2: recent Hallmark appearances were on Christmas on Cherry Lane and
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Speaker 2: Happy Holidays from Cherry Lane.
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Speaker 1: James Ditton joins the good Witch cast as doctor Sam Radford.
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Speaker 1: Prior to this series, he was best known for his
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Speaker 1: role as Mike Delfino on Desperate Housewives. He has gone
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Speaker 1: on to become a staple on Hallmark, appearing in two
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Speaker 1: Cherry Lane movies, The Real West and A Kiss Before Christmas.
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Speaker 2: Bailey Madison plays Grace Russell. Bailey has fifty eight acting
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Speaker 2: credits and appeared on The Fosters as well as Pretty
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Speaker 2: Little Liar's Original Sin.
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Speaker 1: Hey f yi, Pretty Little Liar's Original Sin is very scary.
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Speaker 1: Oh okay, then I won't watch it. Yeah, don't. I
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Speaker 1: would definitely not watch it. The bad guy has like
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Speaker 1: a like a like a bag over his head, like
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Speaker 1: a like a wheat bag or like cornback you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, like those burlap sacks. Yes, those
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Speaker 1: are the words I was looking for. Yeh. Terrifying, terrifying.
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Speaker 1: It's on HBO Max. It's like a spinoff from like
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Speaker 1: the original Pretty Little Liars, but it's far scarier considering
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Speaker 1: it's on like a cable channel like that. Yeah, or
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Speaker 1: more than the c W. Yeah, very scary. And when
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Speaker 1: I saw that she was in this movie, I was like, what,
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Speaker 1: that's the girl from Pretty Little Liars. So I was
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Speaker 1: excited to see her in the series. All Right, moving on.
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Speaker 1: Peter McNeil plays George. Peter has a whopping two hundred
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Speaker 1: and fourteen acting credits and was recently seen in a
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Speaker 1: nineties Christmas as well as the CW series Sullivan's Crossing.
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Speaker 2: I'm aware that Sullivan's Crossing was on a Canadian network
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Speaker 2: before it was on the CW, but just.
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Speaker 1: United States. That's where it airs, correct.
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Speaker 2: Catherine Disher plays Mayor Martha Tinsdale. Catherine has acting credits
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Speaker 2: spanning nearly forty years, and we recently saw in the
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Speaker 2: three Love on the Danube movies.
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Speaker 1: Other familiar Hallmark faces include dan Ja Not as Brandon,
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Speaker 1: Rebecca Dalton plays his wife Tara, and in future episodes,
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Speaker 1: Jefferson Brown, Kat Beryl and Sarah Power will appear.
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Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break and then we'll come right
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Speaker 2: back with the synopsis of season one episode one. All right,
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Speaker 2: let's hear a synopsis for season one episode one of Goodwitch.
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Speaker 1: What's funny is our notes say brief synopsis and this
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Speaker 1: is not one, So tap tap, tap through if you
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Speaker 1: don't want to hear it. This is Hallmark's very lengthy synopsis.
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Speaker 1: They're set in the scene Cassie nightingales back as Middleton's
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Speaker 1: favorite enchantress. You guys, so many times I've had to
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Speaker 1: say it. And this time she's joined by her teenage
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Speaker 1: daughter Grace, who shares the same special intuition as her mom.
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Speaker 1: When Handso doctor Sam Radford and his teenage son moved
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Speaker 1: to next door to the Gray House, they are immediately
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Speaker 1: spellbound by the mother daughter duo next door. When Cassie
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Speaker 1: tries to welcome them with her special magic touch, Sam
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Speaker 1: and Cassie quickly find that they may not see I
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Speaker 1: to eye. Then, as Cassie and her family are relean
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Speaker 1: from a devastating loss, her son Brandon has a shocking
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Speaker 1: surprise announcement about his future that will cause emotions to
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Speaker 1: run high. With her signature charm, Cassie attempts to bring
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Speaker 1: everyone together in time for a powerful event, ensuring all
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Speaker 1: of Middleton is in for the new changes, big surprises,
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Speaker 1: and of course a little bit a little bit of magic. Woof.
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Speaker 2: So here's something interesting. Bailey Madison. You know when it
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Speaker 2: says it says joined by her teenage daughter Grace. It
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Speaker 2: didn't occur to me that Bailey is not in the
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Speaker 2: Good Witch movies.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have some information about that. Okay, was there
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Speaker 1: a Grace. No, apparently she was like referenced, Grace is
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Speaker 1: the baby?
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Speaker 2: What there was a Grace in the last movie played
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Speaker 2: by actress Lily Fay Mowbray Grace.
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Speaker 1: Oh well, okay from what I learned. Now, I'm sure
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Speaker 1: you know, big good Witch fans are probably yelling at us,
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Speaker 1: but this is what I learned. So Grace is the
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Speaker 1: baby of Cassie and her now departed husband. Yes. And
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Speaker 1: the two older children Brandon and what's the sister, Laury?
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Speaker 1: They are the children of Cassie's departed husband. Yes, those
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Speaker 1: are not her kids. And so what I read is
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Speaker 1: in the movies pre dating the episodes, Grace was like
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Speaker 1: a baby. She was like not like a walking, talking character. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: She came on in the episodes as like a emerged
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Speaker 1: as a you know, a full character. Apparently got it,
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Speaker 1: got it? Yeah, it makes perfect sense.
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Speaker 2: All right, So girls, go on. Hallmark listeners may notice
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Speaker 2: a slight departure. We do have a little bit of
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Speaker 2: a format change because these episodes are different than a movie.
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Speaker 2: So we're gonna start with our first take, which is
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Speaker 2: just our thoughts kind of what we thought about this
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Speaker 2: pilot episode. It's plot, the people we meet, et cetera. So,
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Speaker 2: as we've said many times in this episode, we're starting
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Speaker 2: a series based on pre existing characters. However, I think
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Speaker 2: they tried really hard to make it a standalone series,
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Speaker 2: Like you did not need to watch seven movies in
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Speaker 2: order to come into this series with an unders ending
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Speaker 2: of who these people are. And there's a lot of backstory,
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Speaker 2: and obviously we can't get all of it in this episode,
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Speaker 2: but I personally think that they did a great job
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Speaker 2: of allowing for new viewers to join the show and
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Speaker 2: meet the characters and settle in and understand what's going
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Speaker 2: on here and where we're going. I think the addition
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Speaker 2: of James Denton and Bailey Madison, but I in my
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Speaker 2: mind kind of assumed.
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Speaker 1: She was part of the previous guest.
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Speaker 2: I think that is a great way to mark the
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Speaker 2: time between the new series and the movies that aired
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Speaker 2: prior to it kind of brings in a fresh start
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Speaker 2: without fully resetting the storyline.
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Speaker 1: So I agree that it's it's done okay for me
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Speaker 1: because I did have to google things. I was like,
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Speaker 1: who are these older children? I don't understand how are
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Speaker 1: they related? So I think the backstory wasn't totally clear
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Speaker 1: to me or did I just miss it? I mean
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Speaker 1: maybe both. I don't know. I mean, they don't like
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Speaker 1: sit down, They're not like I think a lot of it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think a.
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Speaker 2: Lot of has to be inferred, because like Grace talks
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Speaker 2: to Laurie and Brandon, you know, they talk about Dad
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Speaker 2: and they reference him. But then Laurie and Brandon obviously
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Speaker 2: call Cassie Cassie, and Cassie says, like your dad not
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, I think a lot
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Speaker 2: of it has to be inferred.
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Speaker 1: I suppose. I think that that is the most confusing piece,
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Speaker 1: like how Laurie and Brandon fit into all of it.
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Speaker 2: Yes, but I think the rest of it, the town
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Speaker 2: isn't like this unknowable place. Like we get an immediate
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Speaker 2: sense of who mayor Martha is. We get an immediate
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Speaker 2: sense of who Cassie is and these gift that she wields.
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Speaker 2: We get an immediate sense of like the vibe of
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Speaker 2: this town. And like I said, I think there's enough
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Speaker 2: newness that sets this apart on its own, like Sam's
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Speaker 2: a completely new character. Were obviously launching a completely new
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Speaker 2: storyline love interest.
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Speaker 1: This is Hallmark. We know where this is going. So
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Speaker 1: I don't think you're wrong.
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Speaker 2: That if there was a piece that could have been
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Speaker 2: handled better, it would have been the Brandon and Lori connection.
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Speaker 1: Maybe a previously on but interesting but not previously on.
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Speaker 1: You know. It's it's weird because it's a completely different,
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Speaker 1: like departured series from the movies, but not well yeah,
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Speaker 1: and I mean, are those the same actors? I that's
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Speaker 1: when I don't know if if like Dan Janott and
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Speaker 1: the gal that plays Lori, we're in the previous movies.
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Speaker 1: That's my first question. My second question is do they
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Speaker 1: continue on in the series. Does Dan Janott continue to
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Speaker 1: play Brandon for the next seventy five episodes?
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Speaker 2: Dan Janat is in twenty five episodes of the series asrdon,
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Speaker 2: and the actress who plays Lorie, Hannah Endicott Douglass, is
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Speaker 2: only in eight episodes.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So for me, if I was fully new coming
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Speaker 1: into this, like I am, I could put aside Brandon
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Speaker 1: and Laurie's storyline because I would just go, all right, fine,
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Speaker 1: they're wrapping up those movies that preceded this, right, kind
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Speaker 1: of like putting up like finishing, closing the loop on
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Speaker 1: their stories and if they show up as sprinkled throughout
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Speaker 1: the next seven seasons is fine, Like, I don't need
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Speaker 1: to know any more information about them. I'm just going
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Speaker 1: to move forward with Cassie and Grace and all the
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Speaker 1: new characters.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I think definitely the leading storyline here. The Cassie,
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Speaker 2: the Grace, the Sam may or Martha Stephanie, all of
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Speaker 2: those people play a much bigger role going forward. I
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Speaker 2: keep plinning this, say, Dan Brandon's police storyline, in my
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Speaker 2: mind plays his marriage storyline is the more interesting piece
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Speaker 2: to me, and get like a very small glimpse of
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Speaker 2: that at the beginning of this episode, and then it's
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Speaker 2: never revisited. It does come back around that much.
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Speaker 1: I remember.
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Speaker 2: I don't remember the resolution of that. But the actress
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Speaker 2: who plays his wife, who was a Hallmark actress, Rebecca Dalton,
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Speaker 2: is in this series.
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Speaker 1: I did not even recognize her. That was her at
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Speaker 1: the beginning where they're in like the cafe or whatever,
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Speaker 1: having kind of an argument. No, never mind, that's season.
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Speaker 2: There's an actress name Ashley Legatt who puyes her. It's
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Speaker 2: not her, So Rebecca they twitch actresses.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Rebecca comes in in season two. It's so funny
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Speaker 1: that they swap out the terrorists totally. And while we
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Speaker 1: were watching, I took a picture of baby dan Jana.
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Speaker 1: I was like, is this pin strip from the Bowl type?
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Speaker 1: I couldn't recall his name. I know he's a Hallmark actor,
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Speaker 1: but you know, yeah, it was him. Let me tell
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Speaker 1: you so you thought no, let me let me ask
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Speaker 1: you you thought Brandon and his wife's storyline was of
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Speaker 1: interest to you in this pilot episode. It just made
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Speaker 1: me want to know more. We don't know much about it,
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Speaker 1: Like we see them having a disagreement, She's frustrated with him,
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Speaker 1: she feels unsupported, she leaves, and then we never hear
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Speaker 1: from her again for the rest of the episode. And
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Speaker 1: then we're more in on Brandon becoming a police officer
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Speaker 1: and the worry that this causes his family, And so
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Speaker 1: to me, I just feels like there's more story to
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Speaker 1: tell there, gotcha? Well, I gotta tell you. Brendan and
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Speaker 1: Laurie I did not care, Like I was like, after
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Speaker 1: I googled to find out like who they were coming
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Speaker 1: into this, I was like, I don't care. I don't care.
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Speaker 1: I don't care.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think you're meant, you're certainly not
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Speaker 2: meant to care about them as much as you care
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Speaker 2: about everybody else, Sam and Cassie and Grace. Yeah even Okay,
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Speaker 2: So can I talk about some of the characters.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was immediately charmed by Cassie. Yeah, I super
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Speaker 1: drawn to her character. I thought Catherine Bell was great.
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Speaker 1: There was something captivating about her. I was really drawn
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Speaker 1: to like her magical abilities, and I had read online
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Speaker 1: that it was really toned down in the episodes versus
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Speaker 1: the movies. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I haven't seen the movies, but when you look at
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Speaker 2: the posters, they give me like a little bit of
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Speaker 2: like witchy hokeiness, and we don't get that in the series,
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Speaker 2: which I like, Like, I don't want to see her
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Speaker 2: like casting secret spells.
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Speaker 1: It's just like suggested. It's just like this lightwash of
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Speaker 1: like maybe she's a witch, but they never actually call
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Speaker 1: it out right. Yeah, I mean it's fine that like
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Speaker 1: she has some sort of intuition or whatever. I can
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Speaker 1: totally get down with that. I mean, if I can
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Speaker 1: get that you can time travel via Pond, I can
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Speaker 1: get with a lady kind of having magical abilities. Sure, right, Anyway,
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Speaker 1: I thought that Cassie and Catherine Bell, Like the character
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Speaker 1: and the actor alone could get me to continue to
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Speaker 1: watch the series.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this show, especially her character, it's kind of like
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Speaker 2: a weighted blanket of television, Like it's just, yeah, so
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Speaker 2: soothing to watch. I talk more about Catherine Bell a
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Speaker 2: little bit later on in this episode, but I really
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Speaker 2: love Cassie a lot.
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Speaker 1: I just love the vibe of the show, like I
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Speaker 1: just for me. I can see why they got seven
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Speaker 1: seasons out of it because it's just so watchable, like
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Speaker 1: you can just put it on and just let it
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Speaker 1: wash over you. And even the mayor.
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Speaker 2: Who is kind of a troublemaker, is not causing problems
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Speaker 2: in like a stressful way.
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Speaker 1: It's not firing me up.
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Speaker 2: She's just like kind of getting in there and making
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Speaker 2: things happen and being a little bit difficult and like
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Speaker 2: causing a little bit of conflict, but in an amusing way,
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Speaker 2: not in a way that's like I gotta say things
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Speaker 2: about this person sort of way.
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Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? I do? I didn't.
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Speaker 1: I didn't love her. I wondered if they tone her
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Speaker 1: down going forward. You tell me you watched three seasons
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Speaker 1: of it. It's not my recollection that they tone her down. No,
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Speaker 1: I mean I loved her on the Danube Movies. I
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Speaker 1: just thought though this character was a little like kind
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Speaker 1: of an annoying nat a little bit. But I bet
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Speaker 1: she goes on to do like good things well, and
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Speaker 1: I think we get a little more of her backstory.
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Speaker 1: I think we start to understand her a little bit
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Speaker 1: more later in that series. Yeah, if I like this
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Speaker 1: power hungry small town mayor, yeah, exactly, like if I
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Speaker 1: understood her motivations, which I'm sure we'll get to that, Like,
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Speaker 1: you can't put that all in a pilot episode, right, No,
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Speaker 1: And that's kind of another thing I like about this
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Speaker 1: episode is it sets up a lot to dig through,
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Speaker 1: a lot to look forward to.
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Speaker 2: Obviously, I think we're setting up. I mean, I know
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Speaker 2: we're setting up, but even if I hadn't seen the
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Speaker 2: series would be pretty obvious. We're setting up for a
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Speaker 2: romance between Sam and Cassie, and they've got a lot
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Speaker 2: of work to do to get there because their relationship
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Speaker 2: is a little bit contentious. But what I kind of
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Speaker 2: like is that Sam's kind of a jerk. That's not
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Speaker 2: what I like. What I like is kind of.
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Speaker 1: No, no, No, I know, I'm not suggesting he's not
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Speaker 1: a jerk. He is.
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Speaker 2: What I like about that is that Cassie doesn't really
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Speaker 2: respond to him. She doesn't take the bait. She's kind
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Speaker 2: of just like, like, I know who I am, I
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Speaker 2: know what I can do. I understand like your life's
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Speaker 2: a little bit challenging right now. I feel like in
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Speaker 2: the back of her mind, Cassie's like, this dude just
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Speaker 2: moved to a new town with his son, who is
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Speaker 2: not happy to be here. Obviously there's a backstory there.
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Speaker 2: She gives him a little bit of grace while still
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Speaker 2: holding him up accountable and kind of pushing him to
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Speaker 2: be better. When she talks to him about the trouble
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Speaker 2: she's having with her father in law, she's like, look,
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Speaker 2: you need to get him to trust you, Like we
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Speaker 2: need to figure out what's going on. I feel like
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Speaker 2: she's pushing him to be the person in the town
21:17
Speaker 2: needs him to be. And I like that she's the
21:20
Speaker 2: bigger person. We don't see that a lot in these
21:23
Speaker 2: Hallmark movies where we get some contention. We've seen a
21:27
Speaker 2: lot of like bitchy women, and I think it's a
21:31
Speaker 2: little bit of a reverse here. And she takes the
21:33
Speaker 2: high Road, and I like that.
21:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish I could be more like Cassie. Yeah. No, me,
21:38
Speaker 1: I'm not like screw you. Yeah, I'm not poisoning people
21:42
Speaker 1: with my herbs. Get the hell out of here. What
21:43
Speaker 1: do you think? Yeah? Yeah, yeah yeah. I didn't love
21:47
Speaker 1: doctor Sam. I just kind of thought, like, what a jerk.
21:50
Speaker 1: But he's so smug. I just look, I get it.
21:55
Speaker 1: The show went on for seven seasons. I'm sure they
21:58
Speaker 1: probably really end up Mary. In fact, I think I
22:01
Speaker 1: know they get married at some point, right, m hmmm.
22:05
Speaker 1: I mean it doesn't go on forever. I'm glad. I
22:08
Speaker 1: wonder do you know what season they get married in?
22:11
Speaker 1: Because I don't know how many seasons I could take
22:12
Speaker 1: of them, like being contentious with each other, No, no,
22:16
Speaker 1: I don't think the contentiousness lasts long. Okay, good, good good.
22:21
Speaker 1: I loved teenage Grace. Yeah. I loved her vibe. I
22:26
Speaker 1: liked that she was smart. I like that she inherited
22:30
Speaker 1: Cassie's intuition. Plus I was super into her high school storyline.
22:37
Speaker 1: It was like this stuff that was happening at school
22:40
Speaker 1: and with her friends, Like I was drawn to that
22:44
Speaker 1: as much as I was drawn to Cassie and her
22:48
Speaker 1: job and her whatever. She kind of is like a
22:53
Speaker 1: little bit Rory Yomore to me. Oh, totally, Like she's
22:58
Speaker 1: like the Hallmark Rory Yomore. I like that too. She's
23:01
Speaker 1: so smart, she's almost you know, they're not like Rory and.
23:06
Speaker 2: Laura I because I feel like Kathy has her shit
23:09
Speaker 2: together more than Laura I does. But she's just like
23:15
Speaker 2: kind of above all of the high school shenanigans while
23:18
Speaker 2: still forcibly being in it. But I speaking of things
23:21
Speaker 2: that this show sets up that I like, which I
23:23
Speaker 2: was talking about and talking about Grace, like there's a
23:27
Speaker 2: lot to deal with her. Like we got the Grace
23:28
Speaker 2: and Nick. We got Grace and her best dude friend
23:31
Speaker 2: whose name I don't remember at all, Like he does
23:34
Speaker 2: not like that Grace and Nick are becoming friends.
23:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like soapiness. I'm into. Yes, Like that's like
23:42
Speaker 1: high school drama light. I love it.
23:44
Speaker 2: I also love that we have like it's like dual
23:46
Speaker 2: love triangles because Stephanie is clearly all in on Doctor
23:50
Speaker 2: Sam too.
23:51
Speaker 1: Like Stephanie a lot. She's just so fun. I agree. Okay,
24:00
Speaker 1: I have a question and it's gonna come later. It's
24:05
Speaker 1: it's later in my notes, but I'm going to ask
24:07
Speaker 1: it now. Yeah. Am I misreading the vibes between Grace
24:17
Speaker 1: and Nick in what way? Well? To me, it seems
24:23
Speaker 1: potentially romantic. But if their parents end up married, then
24:28
Speaker 1: they become step siblings. What's happening here? Yeah, I hear you.
24:34
Speaker 2: I actually I couldn't remember what happened and I just
24:38
Speaker 2: googled it. I think you're I think you're good. I
24:41
Speaker 2: think there is some like some potential, like they're trying
24:47
Speaker 2: to set some uncertainty out there, like what's going to
24:51
Speaker 2: be the direction they go. But I think, knowing what
24:56
Speaker 2: we can assume about Cassie and Sam, we're safe, Like
25:00
Speaker 2: they're just going to be friends.
25:02
Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. I was like, oh, I'm into this like
25:06
Speaker 1: love triangle they're setting up, and I was like, wait,
25:08
Speaker 1: wait a minute, love triangle because I'm thinking of like
25:13
Speaker 1: the other dude friend she has, right, Yes, but if
25:19
Speaker 1: Grese and Nick like what, I just couldn't I'm confused. Yeah.
25:25
Speaker 2: I think they I think they developed more of like
25:26
Speaker 2: a brother sister vibe, and I think that's hinted at
25:29
Speaker 2: in this episode where she kind of takes on the
25:31
Speaker 2: role of protector. You know when he's like, oh, we're
25:35
Speaker 2: scaping in school and she's like, I wouldn't do that,
25:37
Speaker 2: And you know, I just think I think both things
25:40
Speaker 2: are true. I think we're meant to believe like, oh,
25:43
Speaker 2: her friend is obviously feeling immediately threatened by Nick's presence,
25:47
Speaker 2: and I don't think he's feeling threatened by him being
25:50
Speaker 2: another friend of hers.
25:51
Speaker 1: Agree, exactly, exactly. I have a couple more things. Yeah,
25:59
Speaker 1: I'm into the town of Middleton. We talked about Rory
26:03
Speaker 1: and LORELEI, yeahs ago there. This this does give like
26:09
Speaker 1: a Hallmark version of Stars Hollow to me. Yeah, not
26:13
Speaker 1: like quirky characters, well, kind of quirky characters, I guess,
26:17
Speaker 1: with the mayor and Stephanie and like yea, yea, yeah, yeah, yea,
26:19
Speaker 1: yeah for sure, but like we have like Cassie's bookstore,
26:23
Speaker 1: and then we have the doctor's office, and we have
26:26
Speaker 1: like the high school. It's all these like familiar landmarks
26:31
Speaker 1: that I could see becoming like welcoming visuals. Yes.
26:38
Speaker 2: Well, and when Sarah Howard joins the show, she opens
26:40
Speaker 2: like a flower store slash chocolate shop. Oh see, so
26:46
Speaker 2: that's like really hitting those vibes as well.
26:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, I loved it. I loved it. One final thing
26:52
Speaker 1: you talked about the pilot having, you thought it set
26:57
Speaker 1: it up well, like a lot of stories that we
26:59
Speaker 1: could like take into the as the series goes on.
27:03
Speaker 1: I agree with you, And this is sometimes where pilots
27:06
Speaker 1: like go sideways for me when there's too much, because
27:10
Speaker 1: we know they have to set up all the stuff
27:12
Speaker 1: so you will continue to come back. But when there's
27:15
Speaker 1: too much, I kind of like tapped out. It's similar
27:19
Speaker 1: to when I watch a Hallmark movie where there's like
27:21
Speaker 1: too many storylines, too many people, too many actors, and
27:24
Speaker 1: I just kind of have to like focus on like
27:27
Speaker 1: the main characters. That's the feeling I was feeling while
27:32
Speaker 1: watching this. It was like a lot of subplots. Yeah,
27:35
Speaker 1: I feel like they needed that.
27:37
Speaker 2: They felt like they needed to really wrap up the
27:39
Speaker 2: Jake storyline in this episode while also introducing those two characters,
27:44
Speaker 2: and perhaps all the Jake stuff could have been episode
27:48
Speaker 2: two right, like they mildly referenced him while we're meeting Sam.
27:52
Speaker 2: But like I can understand their motivation to getting that
27:55
Speaker 2: memorial done. Like the actor has left the series, they
27:58
Speaker 2: need to put a button on it, so they do
28:01
Speaker 2: this like mega movie length episode, like double episode. Basically
28:06
Speaker 2: there was a lot absolutely happening.
28:10
Speaker 1: Question for you, do you know why the original actor
28:13
Speaker 1: left the episode or left the series?
28:15
Speaker 2: It was by choice. He was either doing something else
28:18
Speaker 2: or wanted to leave. M okay, But my understanding is
28:22
Speaker 2: like they were leaving of their own volition.
28:25
Speaker 1: So this series or the franchise or whatever had enough
28:29
Speaker 1: like fan following that they're like, okay, let's pivot to
28:34
Speaker 1: these episodes then with certainly must have brand news storyline,
28:38
Speaker 1: very very interesting and risky. Yeah interesting, all right, anything else?
28:45
Speaker 1: That's all I got for my first takes. All right,
28:47
Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk.
28:49
Speaker 2: Is it giving Hallmark the Hallmark test? Because some of
28:51
Speaker 2: these are Hallmark and some of them are not, And
28:55
Speaker 2: for me, this feels classically Hallmarked.
29:00
Speaker 1: So interesting.
29:01
Speaker 2: The drama is very mild meddling mayor a kid rebelling
29:06
Speaker 2: against his parent by skipping school, mild contention between our
29:09
Speaker 2: future love and tests like, it's all very like, very
29:13
Speaker 2: surface drama, but it's also like, we know we have
29:17
Speaker 2: a love story, we know we have a happily ever after.
29:20
Speaker 2: To me, while I do think it's well done Hallmark,
29:24
Speaker 2: it feels like Hallmark.
29:25
Speaker 1: To me, what about you? I agree. I definitely agree
29:28
Speaker 1: with that it's hitting all those typical Hallmark tropes that
29:33
Speaker 1: make it feel classically Hallmark. However, I did think there
29:38
Speaker 1: were a few little lines that made me pause dialogue
29:45
Speaker 1: that oh uh huh, that doesn't seem like Hallmark, but
29:49
Speaker 1: a I don't know. Like for example, one of them
29:52
Speaker 1: a real standout to me was Grace says something about
29:57
Speaker 1: she's been I wrote it down. Hold on, I've been
30:00
Speaker 1: watching Carbs since I could spell. She says, I haven't
30:04
Speaker 1: had a carb since I could. Oh, that's what it is, elin, Yeah,
30:07
Speaker 1: so you've bumped on it too, right.
30:10
Speaker 2: Yes, I wrote it down. Where is my Oh, I
30:13
Speaker 2: haven't had a carb since I learned how to spell?
30:15
Speaker 2: I actually wrote, Ick, I don't like that.
30:18
Speaker 1: I don't like that either, but I'm like, okay, twenty
30:20
Speaker 1: fifteen feels like classic diet culture. Yes, uh huh, but
30:26
Speaker 1: I hate that it's coming from a teenager who then
30:29
Speaker 1: referenced that she's been watching car haven't eaten a carb
30:32
Speaker 1: since she was a young child like them. Ick is right, yeah,
30:38
Speaker 1: especially in this moment where she's like trying to figure
30:41
Speaker 1: out like her outfit if she's got the right look.
30:43
Speaker 1: And then she basically references her weight in a roundabout way,
30:45
Speaker 1: and I was like, oooh, that commented on age well,
30:48
Speaker 1: and I do not like it. It very much stood out, Yes,
30:52
Speaker 1: but does not seem like Hallmark either, right.
30:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right. I mean Sam says like
30:59
Speaker 2: a love stress, thrive on it. You know, some of
31:01
Speaker 2: these like moments feel like Sam has some great line he.
31:06
Speaker 1: Does, please tell me, I want you to say the
31:08
Speaker 1: next line. Oh, well, I don't know if it's the same.
31:11
Speaker 2: But when he says to his son, I'm going to
31:13
Speaker 2: explain the difference, you know why and it need it.
31:15
Speaker 1: It's gonna blow your mind. Yes, I don't know if
31:20
Speaker 1: this is because we have teenage kids, but I was like, Samn,
31:23
Speaker 1: that's a great line. Yeah, and I we didn't talk
31:26
Speaker 1: about this.
31:27
Speaker 2: But I also like, that's a whole other unexplored storyline
31:31
Speaker 2: like why did Sam? We know why they had to move,
31:33
Speaker 2: but like where's Nick's mom? Why does Sam have full custody?
31:36
Speaker 2: What's the backstory there? What's going on all of this?
31:39
Speaker 1: Does it come later? Yes? Okay, because truly, as I'm
31:44
Speaker 1: watch I don't remember it. But yes, as I'm watching.
31:48
Speaker 1: I was like, am I gonna continue watching this? Like
31:52
Speaker 1: this is good enough that I would probably throw it
31:55
Speaker 1: on and be a show that I don't have to
31:58
Speaker 1: watch that closely. But I'm like, maybe it is. Maybe
32:03
Speaker 1: it is going to be my next show. I don't know.
32:05
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk the cast. Some standout characters. Okay,
32:11
Speaker 2: we talked about Cassie. I love Catherine Bell. You never
32:15
Speaker 2: watched Army Wives, Nope, I watched every season. I've never
32:19
Speaker 2: seen Jag. She was in many seasons of that, obviously.
32:21
Speaker 2: She's been in a few Homewark movies as well. She
32:24
Speaker 2: just has this incredibly calm energy about her, and personally,
32:31
Speaker 2: I think Cassie Nightingale is her ideal persona. I will
32:34
Speaker 2: never see her and not see her as Cassie Nightingale.
32:37
Speaker 2: I just think her vibe. I love her if she
32:40
Speaker 2: were my mom, like the vibe that she brings. She
32:43
Speaker 2: just seems to have it all together as mom, as stepmom,
32:47
Speaker 2: as this town matriarch kind of that everybody turns to
32:50
Speaker 2: for advice and support.
32:53
Speaker 1: I love Catherine Bell a lot, yet it feels her
32:56
Speaker 1: character feels aspirational, right, Yeah, Yeah, That's why I feel
33:00
Speaker 1: so connected to it. I'm like, oh, I love what
33:02
Speaker 1: she's putting out there, and I want to be her.
33:07
Speaker 1: That is truly why I think I would tune back
33:09
Speaker 1: in and watch the show again, because I'm so drawn
33:13
Speaker 1: to a character. Yeah more Cassie, Yeah yeah, yeah. Speaking
33:19
Speaker 1: of Cassie and Doctor Sam and chemistry, like, okay, fine,
33:25
Speaker 1: he's a grump and there's some contention between the two
33:28
Speaker 1: of them, but it was flirty from go right, Like
33:33
Speaker 1: it felt fireworky to me. Yes, I agree, So I
33:39
Speaker 1: was pleased with that. I mean, I guess it's going
33:42
Speaker 1: to be a slowburn, but like instantly I was like, Okay,
33:47
Speaker 1: they're popping off together. You know, I fully agree.
33:51
Speaker 2: I think I think they're well matched, and I think
33:55
Speaker 2: there's a reason why they're in those Cherry Lane movies together.
34:00
Speaker 1: See. I didn't even realize that I remember him, you know,
34:05
Speaker 1: I always get him confused with the other actor that
34:09
Speaker 1: really looks like him. There's another James. We always knew this, Yes,
34:14
Speaker 1: isn't it. Yeah, he was.
34:15
Speaker 2: In another movie with Terry Hatcher. Yes, yes, yes, I'm
34:19
Speaker 2: looking up Terry Hatcher's IMDb. I'm gonna reverse engine near this.
34:24
Speaker 2: They were in mid Love crisis together helping go Yes,
34:29
Speaker 2: Oh my.
34:30
Speaker 1: Gosh, James Tupper, Yeah, I get them confused.
34:34
Speaker 2: Although, oh, this photo he has on IMDb is is
34:38
Speaker 2: a younger James Tupper. Okay, yeah, and they have a
34:41
Speaker 2: similar vibe. But yes, I think the fact that they
34:45
Speaker 2: went on to play a couple in another series of
34:49
Speaker 2: movies speaks speaks to their chemistry. Totally, totally, totally well.
34:54
Speaker 1: And I loved James Denton in that Western, in that
35:01
Speaker 1: Western movie with Kim Sestid, The Real West. I mean,
35:05
Speaker 1: that's like a perfect role for him too. That was
35:08
Speaker 1: a great This kind of like sun Tanned Cowboy was
35:13
Speaker 1: so good. I wish they would make episodes of that movie. Yeah.
35:20
Speaker 1: I enjoy him as an actor. I think I totally
35:25
Speaker 1: agree with. However, this doctor character. I hope he changes
35:31
Speaker 1: because I just was kind of turned off with what
35:34
Speaker 1: a jerk he was. Yeah, that's not his vibe throughout
35:37
Speaker 1: the series, for sure. Okay, good, good, good, Good to know.
35:39
Speaker 2: He's he's just pushing back on it all. He got
35:42
Speaker 2: baited and switched come into small town by Mayor Martha.
35:46
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he was real disappointed with his office space.
35:50
Speaker 2: Yes, and all the things that he was promised by her.
35:53
Speaker 2: I know she oversold the position, and I always got
35:56
Speaker 2: this teenager at home who's pissing him off, just got
35:59
Speaker 2: a short he was because of it.
36:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess I can relate.
36:03
Speaker 2: I know you're not super excited about the character of Brandon,
36:06
Speaker 2: but I gotta say I am happy to have baby
36:07
Speaker 2: Pinstripe in this series, that familiar face. I don't remember
36:12
Speaker 2: Jefferson Brown joining the series, but evidently he does. I'm
36:17
Speaker 2: excited to see his recurring character.
36:20
Speaker 1: Oh so, wait, you're gonna continue to watch it? I mean,
36:22
Speaker 1: I've seen like so many seasons.
36:24
Speaker 2: I don't know who knows what I'm gonna do. Who
36:27
Speaker 2: knows what I'm gonna do. I'm not opposed to continuing
36:30
Speaker 2: to watch it. And look, I know you found me
36:33
Speaker 2: or Martha annoying, and I don't think that's an incorrect take.
36:38
Speaker 2: But I when I think of the casting, I can't
36:40
Speaker 2: think of anybody else other than Katherine Disher that I
36:42
Speaker 2: would want playing that character, because I think there's something
36:45
Speaker 2: about Katherine Disher's vibe that makes her a little bit forgivable.
36:50
Speaker 2: While she's kind of being mettlesome and a pain in
36:55
Speaker 2: the ass, quite frankly, there's something about her that even
36:59
Speaker 2: though I'm like, ugh, may Or Martha, like added again,
37:02
Speaker 2: I also kind of letter let her just roll with it?
37:07
Speaker 1: Got it all right?
37:09
Speaker 2: It's time for us to design. Are we gonna keep
37:12
Speaker 2: watching or are we done? Are we gonna skip it?
37:16
Speaker 2: What are you landing on that one?
37:18
Speaker 1: Well? I think I would definitely keep watching this series,
37:22
Speaker 1: especially if the listeners emailed us or messaged us and
37:28
Speaker 1: said like, yes, this is what you need to look
37:30
Speaker 1: forward to. This is a great series. These are the
37:33
Speaker 1: storylines that are coming up. Stick with doctor Sam, stick
37:37
Speaker 1: with mayor Martha. Is it Martha? Yes? Okay, So if
37:43
Speaker 1: I got some reinforcement like yes, it's good, then I
37:47
Speaker 1: would definitely stick with it. Yeah, Like, is this the
37:50
Speaker 1: kind of series we could be reviewing? Yeah? My only
37:54
Speaker 1: wish is this. I do wish there was more magic
37:59
Speaker 1: to it. I know you think it's kind of hokey,
38:02
Speaker 1: but like I kind of think it's hokey. I think
38:04
Speaker 1: it has the potential to be hokey. Well remember the
38:07
Speaker 1: recall Oh Nikki Di Looch. Yeah, that's my concern. Yeah,
38:17
Speaker 1: where they're like because the posters give the same vibe.
38:21
Speaker 1: I agree Yeah. What I remember from that movie is
38:24
Speaker 1: like a blender that goes crazy and like, yes, like
38:30
Speaker 1: too cheesy.
38:31
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Well, as I mentioned, I have seen many
38:35
Speaker 2: seasons of this show. Obviously, you know. I didn't watch
38:38
Speaker 2: it as a reviewer. I watched it as like a
38:41
Speaker 2: my kid wanted to watch TV with me, and so
38:42
Speaker 2: I just like was hanging out on.
38:44
Speaker 1: The couch vibe and with the show.
38:47
Speaker 2: So I don't remember a lot of it, but I
38:49
Speaker 2: do find this show highly watchable. It's soothing. I think
38:55
Speaker 2: people who love Hallmark would vibe with the show, would
38:59
Speaker 2: be all in on what.
39:00
Speaker 1: It has to offer. It's very familiar and comfortable to
39:05
Speaker 1: the average Hallmark watcher in my opinion. Yeah, I agree.
39:09
Speaker 2: We did reach out asking for some listener comments on
39:12
Speaker 2: this show, and I'd like to share a few with you.
39:15
Speaker 2: First up, Cheryl says, I loved Goodwitch so much.
39:17
Speaker 1: I really loved the movies. They were more mystical.
39:20
Speaker 2: And magical in my opinion, And it was a bummer
39:23
Speaker 2: that Chris Potter didn't want to Slash couldn't do the.
39:26
Speaker 1: Series's is that James character?
39:28
Speaker 2: Okay, James Denton was a great ad though to the series,
39:32
Speaker 2: and I liked Sam's relationship with Cassie. George was a
39:35
Speaker 2: great sounding board as the series went on. I did
39:38
Speaker 2: miss the original kids. I thought Stephanie, Abigail, and especially
39:42
Speaker 2: Martha added color and levity. I didn't love the last season,
39:46
Speaker 2: particularly I thought there was too much of Cat Barrell's
39:48
Speaker 2: character and I never warmed to her.
39:50
Speaker 1: I felt like she was bratty. Andrea says, are y'all
39:56
Speaker 1: about to start watching The Good Witch? Question Mark? Question Mark?
39:59
Speaker 2: I started binge it and the movies during the early
40:01
Speaker 2: days of the pandemic. It isn't something I usually watch,
40:05
Speaker 2: almost too wholesome, but I really enjoyed it. I hope
40:07
Speaker 2: this is something y'all are about.
40:09
Speaker 1: To take on. Ooh, too wholesome is interesting. I don't
40:15
Speaker 1: like too wholesome, and I don't think this first movie
40:20
Speaker 1: was especially too wholesome, particularly because some of the dialogue.
40:26
Speaker 1: But does it lean that way? I don't know. Here's
40:33
Speaker 1: the thing. Sue Tinney, who is one of the executor,
40:38
Speaker 1: executive producers, and writer, I mean, she did Seventh Heaven
40:43
Speaker 1: that was pretty wholesome. No, yeah, she did.
40:47
Speaker 2: She also did Virgin River, which is less wholesome. Okay,
40:51
Speaker 2: all right, our final comment is from Michelle, who says
40:55
Speaker 2: good which is a fun theories which started as movies
40:57
Speaker 2: airing one to two times a year. I love the characters,
41:00
Speaker 2: the magical feel of the storyline, nothing too serious and
41:03
Speaker 2: often predictable about worth a watch. James Denton and Catherine
41:07
Speaker 2: Bell have great chemistry too. Oh hey, I will say,
41:11
Speaker 2: if you are considering adding a new series of reviews
41:17
Speaker 2: to our Girls Gone Hamewark lineup, you may want to
41:21
Speaker 2: hold off until we talk Chesapeake Shores because spoiler alert,
41:25
Speaker 2: we got multiple messages that said, this is the best
41:28
Speaker 2: show that Homewark has ever aired.
41:30
Speaker 1: Are we going? I know we are going to review
41:34
Speaker 1: the pilot episode. Yes, Chesapeake Shores, that's our next episode, right, Yes?
41:39
Speaker 1: Have you watched it yet? No? I have seen it
41:42
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. If you recall, I think
41:46
Speaker 1: a few years ago, I pitched us doing that for
41:48
Speaker 1: summer and and if you recall, some of the feedback
41:52
Speaker 1: was like, don't do it that. I don't recall. I
41:56
Speaker 1: remember we were going to call it chessa girls. Oh boy,
42:06
Speaker 1: we'll see girls. Yeah, guys, are you into that? Email us?
42:11
Speaker 1: I mean, can we just have like a spinoff of
42:14
Speaker 1: a spinoff of a spinoff of Girls Gone Hamewark, I mean,
42:17
Speaker 1: why not? Why not? I'm excited for Chesapeake Shores because
42:22
Speaker 1: I did watch the first couple of episodes and really
42:26
Speaker 1: enjoyed it, So I'm excited to talk about that.
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