Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / Help! I Called My Daughter the B Word! (A Listener Q&A)
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- 0:06Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Happy Families Podcast. Sometimes our
- 0:08Speaker 1: kids can bring our temperature up. They can make our
- 0:14Speaker 1: lives feel challenging. Is it them really doing it to
- 0:16Speaker 1: us or is it us just doing it to ourselves
- 0:20Speaker 1: the way that we're thinking, the way that we're responding.
- 0:22Speaker 1: Either way, parenting can be a really tough gig. Today
- 0:25Speaker 1: on the Happy Families Podcast, we answer one of your
- 0:27Speaker 1: tricky questions with teenagers who are just tricky, who have attitude,
- 0:35Speaker 1: who make us end up doing and saying things that
- 0:39Speaker 1: we don't want to do and say we're going to
- 0:41Speaker 1: answer that tricky question right after this. Stay with us. Hello,
- 0:47Speaker 1: Welcome to the Happy Families Podcast where you get real
- 0:50Speaker 1: parenting solutions every single day. This is Australia's most downloaded
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- 1:01Speaker 1: and relationships and well being and screens and discipline and
- 1:05Speaker 1: today tricky teenagers. I can't wait to answer this question.
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- 1:22Speaker 1: at happy families dot com dot au. His today's question.
- 1:28Speaker 2: Hi, my name's Kim. I'm calling for some advice about
- 1:31Speaker 2: my fifteen turning sixteen next week daughter, my eldest daughter.
- 1:36Speaker 2: We've been having lots of conflict lately, and small things
- 1:40Speaker 2: escalate really quickly. This morning, for example, I tried so
- 1:44Speaker 2: hard to stay calm and help her as she was
- 1:47Speaker 2: running late to catch the bus for school, and I
- 1:51Speaker 2: ended up losing my patients and called her the B word,
- 1:55Speaker 2: which I really really regret. Right now, I'm feeling I've welmed, frustrated, angry,
- 2:02Speaker 2: and I'm just worried about how I'm reacting in these moments,
- 2:06Speaker 2: and I'm just looking for some advice on how to
- 2:08Speaker 2: handle this better and whether this is typical for her age, typical.
- 2:15Speaker 2: What do you reckon?
- 2:15Speaker 1: We're up to, Kim, You are not alone. Sixteen year
- 2:18Speaker 1: old Number five is where we are right now, and.
- 2:21Speaker 3: I'm not laughing at you. I'm laughing at holy smokes.
- 2:26Speaker 3: This is a perfect follow up from yesterday's conversation. We
- 2:30Speaker 3: talk specifically about this very situation.
- 2:34Speaker 1: You don't have to attend every argument.
- 2:36Speaker 3: Yeah, and the idea that as humans we are the
- 2:40Speaker 3: only ones on the planet with the capacity to have
- 2:44Speaker 3: a stimulus and a pause and a response.
- 2:48Speaker 1: We can choose how we're going to respond.
- 2:49Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 2:50Speaker 1: I was listening to what Kim said, and I have
- 2:53Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe eight or ten different things that
- 2:54Speaker 1: I can say in response here. But first of all,
- 2:58Speaker 1: let's let's just get this out of the way. Name calling,
- 3:01Speaker 1: calling you kids' names. I grew up in a home
- 3:03Speaker 1: where that happened all the time. This has been a
- 3:04Speaker 1: really hard habit for me to break. I've never called
- 3:06Speaker 1: them horrible, horrible names, but any name is horrible in
- 3:10Speaker 1: some ways. And you never do this and go oh yeah,
- 3:14Speaker 1: nailed it, like I'm just getting this so right. You
- 3:16Speaker 1: always just feel so lousy. It just it doesn't feel
- 3:20Speaker 1: good at all. But I would, as I say this
- 3:24Speaker 1: these kinds of responses, anger and losing it, that they
- 3:28Speaker 1: are choices, and they do become habits.
- 3:30Speaker 3: They're also a normal response to really tricky, challenging stimulus.
- 3:36Speaker 1: Do you know what the best response is? When I mean,
- 3:39Speaker 1: think about what Kim said, She's running late for the bus.
- 3:41Speaker 1: I'm trying to organize her, trying to get her out
- 3:43Speaker 1: the door, trying to do whatever. Her daughter is feeling
- 3:46Speaker 1: like she's been called incompetent, being controlled. The best thing
- 3:51Speaker 1: to say to your kids when things are starting to
- 3:53Speaker 1: get tired is how can I help? Times short, what
- 3:56Speaker 1: do you need from me?
- 3:57Speaker 3: One of our daughters attends an early morning class.
- 4:01Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of times a week.
- 4:02Speaker 3: And it starts at a specific time, and every day
- 4:07Speaker 3: we are.
- 4:08Speaker 1: Late every day.
- 4:09Speaker 3: And I just got to a point where I recognized
- 4:14Speaker 3: that the most important thing in my mind is that
- 4:18Speaker 3: she goes, and if I create a fight every time,
- 4:24Speaker 3: the chances of her wanting to go are next to none.
- 4:28Speaker 1: Yeah. I was thinking about that as well when I
- 4:30Speaker 1: was listening to Kim's comments, And I want to get
- 4:32Speaker 1: to some solutions and strategies to help to regulate well
- 4:34Speaker 1: in a sec But at the age of sixteen, if
- 4:39Speaker 1: your daughter can't get out the door on time for
- 4:40Speaker 1: the bus, it's not your problem. It's actually her problem.
- 4:44Speaker 1: And you might say, how can I help? Do you
- 4:46Speaker 1: need any support? And if she misses the bus, you
- 4:48Speaker 1: might say, well, here's some money for a public bus
- 4:51Speaker 1: to get where you need to go. Or you can
- 4:52Speaker 1: catch the next bus, or if you've got the time,
- 4:54Speaker 1: you might say, I guess I can help you today,
- 4:56Speaker 1: But I obviously can't do it every day because sometimes
- 4:57Speaker 1: I've got to go to work, or I've got those
- 4:59Speaker 1: other things that I do. I think that the main
- 5:01Speaker 1: thing is you're not there to be a critic. You're
- 5:04Speaker 1: there to say I'm here to help you. I can't
- 5:07Speaker 1: do everything, and I'm certainly not going to rescue you
- 5:09Speaker 1: all the time. There are consequences to your actions, but
- 5:12Speaker 1: let me help you however I can in ways that
- 5:15Speaker 1: work for both of us. Tricky line to tread, though.
- 5:20Speaker 1: Let's talk about some of the specific strategies right after
- 5:22Speaker 1: the break. I have been scrawling them down as we've
- 5:25Speaker 1: been talking, and I've got a lot, so we're going
- 5:28Speaker 1: to go through them in a lightning round right after this.
- 5:38Speaker 1: Strategies to help to stay calm and navigate those big
- 5:42Speaker 1: teenage emotions. Let's talk about them right now on the
- 5:45Speaker 1: Happy Families podcasts. Kylie, I've got a bunch. Do you
- 5:48Speaker 1: want me to start. I know you jottedson things down
- 5:50Speaker 1: as well, or do you want to start?
- 5:52Speaker 3: Go for it.
- 5:53Speaker 1: So the first thing is take care of yourself, if
- 5:55Speaker 1: you're stressed, if you're not getting enough sleep, if you
- 5:57Speaker 1: haven't had a proper breakfast, if you're not taking care
- 6:00Speaker 1: of yourself and your needs. Remembering to breathe, remembering to eat,
- 6:02Speaker 1: remembering to sleep, remembering to do all yours.
- 6:04Speaker 3: A lot of things to remember.
- 6:06Speaker 1: I know, I know, but you don't do a good
- 6:08Speaker 1: job if you don't have calories in your body. You
- 6:10Speaker 1: don't do a good job if you haven't had enough sleep. Like,
- 6:13Speaker 1: no parent who is sleep deprived feels like they're getting
- 6:16Speaker 1: it right. When you sleep deprived, you just feel like
- 6:17Speaker 1: you're always playing underfueled yeap horrible. So that's my first one.
- 6:22Speaker 1: It's really quick, really easy. I'm listening to Kim, and
- 6:24Speaker 1: I'm just wondering what her morning was like, what her
- 6:26Speaker 1: night before was like. Can we make sure that we
- 6:30Speaker 1: wake up vital and ready to go?
- 6:32Speaker 3: And as I was listening to her share the experience
- 6:36Speaker 3: that she had, the thing that jumped out at me
- 6:38Speaker 3: was good mornings begin the night before. Yeah, and so
- 6:42Speaker 3: what are we doing the night before to prepare and
- 6:46Speaker 3: be ready for the next day. The onus isn't all
- 6:49Speaker 3: on Kim to do that, but it's helping our children
- 6:51Speaker 3: recognize that we're going to set ourselves up for success
- 6:54Speaker 3: so much better if we actually plan for the next day.
- 6:58Speaker 1: Yeah. The second thing that I'd say is, I don't
- 6:59Speaker 1: think that your daughter is waking up in the morning
- 7:02Speaker 1: and thinking how can I rule nun's morning? Nor is
- 7:04Speaker 1: she waking up and thinking how can I make today
- 7:06Speaker 1: go awesome? Well, yeah, she's just kind of doing a thing.
- 7:10Speaker 1: And then because she's a teenager, she's got her alplates on.
- 7:14Speaker 1: She's not good at planning and thinking about the future,
- 7:16Speaker 1: like the future is an abstract concept because now is
- 7:20Speaker 1: all that matters.
- 7:20Speaker 3: She's also not thinking about her like she's thinking about herself.
- 7:24Speaker 1: That's all she's got to think about. That's what teenagers do,
- 7:27Speaker 1: That's right. So I think that if we can just
- 7:29Speaker 1: allow some grace, recognize she's got her alplates on, and
- 7:32Speaker 1: again that vital important question, how can I help to me?
- 7:35Speaker 1: That's the central one. You're more likely to see your
- 7:38Speaker 1: child's heart if you can just slow down and take
- 7:42Speaker 1: away the judgment and the frustration and just be like, yeah,
- 7:45Speaker 1: you're a teenager. When I was a teenager, I missed
- 7:48Speaker 1: the bus from time to time as well.
- 7:49Speaker 3: The other day, I was getting really, really frustrated at
- 7:52Speaker 3: one of our children, and I was talking it out
- 7:55Speaker 3: with one of the other children, and it just hit
- 8:00Speaker 3: me like a ton of bricks, and I looked at
- 8:02Speaker 3: her and I said, I'm getting upset about this. But
- 8:04Speaker 3: when I was her age, I did exactly the same thing,
- 8:07Speaker 3: and it just deflated everything in a heartbeat, just that acknowledgment.
- 8:12Speaker 3: You know what, I'm actually asking her to do something
- 8:14Speaker 3: that I couldn't do, and part of the frustration is
- 8:16Speaker 3: that I couldn't do it right. And I would love
- 8:19Speaker 3: for her to learn from my mistakes and be better
- 8:22Speaker 3: as a result, but that's not often how it works.
- 8:25Speaker 1: So just going back to yesterday's podcast and the way
- 8:29Speaker 1: we regulate our emotions. If you're just regulated, just stop talking,
- 8:33Speaker 1: Like if she's angry, you just stop talking. You don't
- 8:35Speaker 1: have to attend the argument. As an extension of that,
- 8:37Speaker 1: maybe give yourself time out. Just say to your kiddo,
- 8:41Speaker 1: I'm going to go to my bedroom and just breathe
- 8:43Speaker 1: for a sec because, or.
- 8:44Speaker 3: Even better, I'm just going to go outside.
- 8:46Speaker 1: Yeah, touch grass, touch and grass, look at the tree.
- 8:49Speaker 3: Whatever it takes.
- 8:51Speaker 1: That will work. That'll all work. Now, there are some
- 8:54Speaker 1: deeper things that you can do and times getting away
- 8:57Speaker 1: from it, So I'll go through these fairly quickly. You
- 8:58Speaker 1: can some gratitude, like you can be grateful that you
- 9:01Speaker 1: actually have a daughter, or that your daughter is up
- 9:03Speaker 1: and getting ready for school, even if she is running late,
- 9:06Speaker 1: or that she does have big emotions because we live
- 9:08Speaker 1: in a country where she's allowed to go to school,
- 9:11Speaker 1: and therefore she's allowed to be late for school, because
- 9:13Speaker 1: there are some countries where girls aren't allowed to go
- 9:14Speaker 1: to school. I know that sounds a little bit cheesy,
- 9:17Speaker 1: a little bit annoying, and maybe even a little bit patronizing,
- 9:20Speaker 1: but it's also true, and the data shows that it
- 9:22Speaker 1: helps us to regulate well. And I guess put things
- 9:25Speaker 1: into perspective a little bit more.
- 9:27Speaker 3: Kim could imagine that you were looming over her, judging
- 9:30Speaker 3: her every parenting move.
- 9:31Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about all.
- 9:33Speaker 3: She could imagine me holding her hand and telling her
- 9:35Speaker 3: that everything's going to be okay.
- 9:37Speaker 1: You do a better job as a parent when you
- 9:39Speaker 1: imagine someone's watching you you just do.
- 9:41Speaker 3: Or someone's got your back. You're not all on your own. Like,
- 9:44Speaker 3: I don't think it's a judgment thing.
- 9:46Speaker 1: It's just we do better when we fell supported, right,
- 9:49Speaker 1: you said, that's so much better than me and Kim.
- 9:52Speaker 1: We've probably given you so many things, But just go
- 9:55Speaker 1: back to perspective. If she's late for school, what's the
- 9:58Speaker 1: worst thing that happens? You get a text message from
- 10:00Speaker 1: the school and they say your daughter was tardy, Like, I.
- 10:03Speaker 3: Kind of ignore those ones now, Yeah.
- 10:05Speaker 1: Well, we've been through it so much. It's not so
- 10:09Speaker 1: I get it. It's not ideal, and every school teacher
- 10:12Speaker 1: who's listening is going to be like, no, we need
- 10:13Speaker 1: them to be a class on top. I get it,
- 10:15Speaker 1: I really do. But as a school teacher, if you've
- 10:18Speaker 1: got a student who walks in late, don't give them
- 10:20Speaker 1: a hard time because you just have no idea what
- 10:23Speaker 1: they've been through that morning at home, and as parents,
- 10:27Speaker 1: getting them to school is better than having them at
- 10:29Speaker 1: home fighting with you. So just if they're going to
- 10:34Speaker 1: be ten minutes late or fifteen minutes late, but they're
- 10:36Speaker 1: going to be there without any winging, complaining and carrying on,
- 10:39Speaker 1: then maybe that's just what you deal with for a
- 10:41Speaker 1: little while, and then on the weekend you can have
- 10:43Speaker 1: a chat about punctuality and getting things right from that perspective.
- 10:47Speaker 1: I think that's probably I don't know how many we've done.
- 10:51Speaker 1: Probably that's at least a half a dozen ideas that
- 10:53Speaker 1: might well.
- 10:54Speaker 3: You keep saying that I'm the one who makes the
- 10:55Speaker 3: podcast go super long. But out of your I don't
- 10:58Speaker 3: know ten things you might have shared, I've only got
- 11:01Speaker 3: three right, and it encompasses them all. I think I
- 11:05Speaker 3: took a leaf out of your book, and I've used
- 11:08Speaker 3: a little bit of alliteration. I have a refrain, reframe,
- 11:13Speaker 3: and reconnect.
- 11:15Speaker 1: I like it. Refrain from yelling, reframe the situation, and
- 11:18Speaker 1: then reconnect with your child. You should write parenting books
- 11:21Speaker 1: and do parenting podcasts. You're pretty good at this. I
- 11:24Speaker 1: like it. Good luck, Kim, Thanks so much.
- 11:26Speaker 3: May the Force be with you.
- 11:27Speaker 1: Thanks so much for the question. Hey, if you have
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