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AEW Hot Topics | The Road to All Out · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: 10, 9, ignition sequence start, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0,
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  Speaker 1: all engines running.
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  Speaker 2: It's Tuesday, you know what that means. It's time for
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  Speaker 2: Ignition with the AEW Fan Hub Community Podcast Team. This
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  Speaker 2: is Kelson. We've got AEW Dynamite coming to us Wednesday night.
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  Speaker 2: They just added a few matches. I didn't really get
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  Speaker 2: a chance to look at it, but I'm glad that
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  Speaker 2: they're finally adding matches. There was two matches, I think.
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  Speaker 2: Is that right, guys?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That were added before, and now I think I know
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  Speaker 2: we have... I know Jamie Hayter and Lena Cross is
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  Speaker 2: one of them, but I'm not really sure.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I saw. I didn't see another one.
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  Speaker 4: Cajun Cope, Darby Allen, and Steve versus FTR, Kyle Fletcher,
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  Speaker 4: and Kevin Knight.
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  Speaker 3: Did you say Speedball?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 4: Steve.
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  Speaker 2: Steven.
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  Speaker 1: Steve, sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Little Freddy Fingers is in the chat. He says, hi, friends.
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  Speaker 2: It's Goose. Do you think that it's time AEW changes
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  Speaker 2: the skirts on the ring or in or on the ring?
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  Speaker 2: That's an interesting question. I'm going to be honest with you, Goose.
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  Speaker 2: I've never really noticed the skirts. I guess that's a
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  Speaker 2: good thing. I mean, I guess you don't want them
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  Speaker 2: to be too busy. Does that make sense?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like what they have right now. It's simple enough,
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  Speaker 4: but it's not like, boring.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I would think maybe the LED pads, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that are on the barriers, those could change from week
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  Speaker 2: to week, which I think they do anyway. So... Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think I pay more attention to those.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because they'll change them, like, when they have a specialty, like,
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  Speaker 4: where they're partnering with, when they did Mortal Kombat or
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  Speaker 4: with House of the Dragon. Like, they've had those special ones.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Winter's Coming. I mean, they did have, like, last week,
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  Speaker 2: they had The Butcher on the LED panels. Anyway, moving
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  Speaker 2: right along. Tomorrow night, Wednesday night, Dynamite. Join our live
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  Speaker 2: chat on the AEW Fan Hub subreddit. It's a chat box.
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  Speaker 2: It's right at the top of the subreddit. Very easy
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  Speaker 2: to find. I'll put the link to the subreddit. There
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  Speaker 2: we go. It's our AEW fan hub. And we have
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  Speaker 2: a lot of fun. You know, we just talk and
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  Speaker 2: chat while the show is going on. You can always
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  Speaker 2: tell when a match is good because nobody's chatting. You
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  Speaker 2: ever notice that?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then, of course, after Dynamite tomorrow night, our good
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  Speaker 2: friends over at the Everything Pro Wrestling podcast at their
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  Speaker 2: YouTube channel, which is on the screen now at EPW show.
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  Speaker 2: They do their Dynamite review show. It's always very fun,
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  Speaker 2: very interactive. Be sure to interact with them in the chat.
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  Speaker 2: And you'll be able to maybe get on the show
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  Speaker 2: because they do show a lot of what is being
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  Speaker 2: said by the community on the show. But let's move
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  Speaker 2: on to our show. Again, this is AEW Fan Hubs Ignition.
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  Speaker 2: We're live on X. We're live on YouTube. And if
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  Speaker 2: you're on YouTube, join us in the chat. Share your
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  Speaker 2: thoughts with what we're talking about, and we'll look forward
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  Speaker 2: to it. Let's talk a little bit about All Out. Essentially,
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  Speaker 2: it is a sellout. They have added more seats, which
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  Speaker 2: they just keep selling. I think there are over 9,100
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  Speaker 2: tickets distributed right now. We've still got three confirmed matches. uh,
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  Speaker 2: is there, are there any other matches that you guys
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  Speaker 2: think you would like to see on at all out?
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  Speaker 4: Uh, like to see a TNT type. I mean, ideally
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  Speaker 4: I'd like to see all the titles defended. I know
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  Speaker 4: it's not going to happen with the continental because Moxley's in,
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  Speaker 4: but they're challenging for the world, but pay-per-views. I want
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  Speaker 4: to see all the titles defended. If possible.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I agree. Uh, Well, the TBS title, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: that's been announced for defense yet.
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Not yet. I could see Persephone versus Thunder Rosa.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think so? If they do that, I think
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  Speaker 2: they need to get... Don't you think that they need
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  Speaker 2: to get Thunder Rosa on TV more? They should. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: in a one-on-one match?
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  Speaker 1: They should.
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  Speaker 3: Either Dynamite or Collision.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you still have this week's Collision, next week's Dynamite,
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  Speaker 4: the Collision after. They have an established rivalry, so you
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  Speaker 4: could book the match and then feature her, you know,
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  Speaker 4: to kind of, I guess, bring her back into the
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  Speaker 4: public eye.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't forget, though, that Dynamite, Wednesday night, is the
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  Speaker 2: 16th of September. So it's 10, all out is 10
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  Speaker 2: days away. So, yeah, I mean, we've definitely got to
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  Speaker 2: get some folks, you know.
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  Speaker 4: There is no collision next week. Well, there's the collision.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's going to be taped.
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  Speaker 3: So, I mean, I mean, it's going to be on
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  Speaker 3: Thursday next week, I'm sure. because All Out is Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I mean, they're not going to show
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  Speaker 2: it on Saturday, since All Out is on Saturday. Yeah, again,
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  Speaker 2: 10 days away, we've only got three matches. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the arena sold out, but now you're looking for pay-per-view buys,
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  Speaker 2: not ticket sales. And I think it's incumbent upon Tony
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  Speaker 2: Khan and AEW to get um more matches set up
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  Speaker 2: probably tomorrow night on uh on dynamite because those three
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  Speaker 2: matches the three original matches were made really early right
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  Speaker 2: after all in and and nothing since.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah and you know what that's like one of my
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  Speaker 4: biggest gripes with you know a it's like we'll get
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  Speaker 4: three to four big matches set up, you know, way
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  Speaker 4: in advance, and then it feels like all the other
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  Speaker 4: matches are slapped together in the last week. Like, even
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  Speaker 4: though I know the matches are going to be good,
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  Speaker 4: it just makes them feel like, okay, these are somehow
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  Speaker 4: lesser matches.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're less important because they didn't think to make
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  Speaker 2: them early.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, like, Ideally, a pay-per-view card should be set two
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  Speaker 4: weeks out before the pay-per-view at a minimum, I say.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Chris and Val, when you look at it, we
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  Speaker 2: have three matches set, which means you're probably going to
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  Speaker 2: get at least, I don't know, six or seven more
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  Speaker 2: matches on the pay-per-view. I mean, it's going to have
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  Speaker 2: nine or ten matches. It could have eight, but that
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  Speaker 2: would be on the low side for AEW. And then
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  Speaker 2: you're probably looking at two or three matches for the buy-in.
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  Speaker 2: So you're probably looking at another nine or ten matches
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  Speaker 2: being added between now and ten days from now. And
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  Speaker 2: that's a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: You know, so I'm hoping, I don't know, I'm hoping
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  Speaker 2: that we do see some matches made tomorrow night, or
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  Speaker 2: at least hinted at, and then they can be made
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  Speaker 2: on Collision. But don't forget, you know, Collision's now going against,
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  Speaker 2: you know, college football and whatnot. So, you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: a tough time of year for Collision viewership, I guess,
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  Speaker 2: is the best way of putting it. But AEW did
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  Speaker 2: make a couple of announcements this past week, one of
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  Speaker 2: them being Blood and Guts coming to Jacksonville on November 4th.
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  Speaker 2: This year's build has been a little bit different than
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  Speaker 2: last year's build. Not so much on the men's side,
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  Speaker 2: but on the women's side, certainly, because last year they
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  Speaker 2: built up the women's blood and guts, gosh, four or
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  Speaker 2: five months ahead of time. I mean, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Sky Blue was already posted. Is it November 4th yet?
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  Speaker 3: And last year she was the star of the match.
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  Speaker 3: She was incredible.
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  Speaker 1: Incredible.
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  Speaker 3: I hope she's in it this year.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure she will be. I don't see.
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  Speaker 4: I know her crazy little butt is going to be
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  Speaker 4: in there. She ain't going to not let them have
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  Speaker 4: her in that match.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's stay with the women. I mean, who
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  Speaker 2: do you want to see in this blood and guts match?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, think about it. November 4th is, you know,
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  Speaker 2: less than two months away. It's not that many weeks away. What,
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  Speaker 2: six weeks?
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  Speaker 4: So.
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  Speaker 2: Who do we want to see in it, in the
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  Speaker 2: women's match?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Triangle of Madness is the easy option. choice.
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  Speaker 2: I have to say something here. Tekla and Sky Blue
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  Speaker 2: are the obvious choices. I think that Julia Hart's out
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  Speaker 2: of her element in a blood and guts match.
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  Speaker 1: Was she there last year in that match?
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  Speaker 4: I don't remember. She was.
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  Speaker 2: She did well. But, you know, there was a lot
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  Speaker 2: of blood and, you know, gore in a blood and
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  Speaker 2: guts match, in the women's blood and guts match, for
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  Speaker 2: everyone except Julia. You know, I mean, it is what
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  Speaker 2: it is.
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  Speaker 4: There's always got to be one person who somehow makes
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  Speaker 4: it out. relatively unstazed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm going to say this. If Julia's
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  Speaker 2: in the match, I want to see her gushing blood
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  Speaker 2: from her forehead, honestly. And I mean that in a
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  Speaker 2: nice way, you know, because I think that that's something
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  Speaker 2: that she needs to do in this kind of match.
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  Speaker 2: If she's not going to do it in this kind
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  Speaker 2: of match, or if they don't, she may have been,
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  Speaker 2: you know, willing to do it, but maybe Tony Khan
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  Speaker 2: or the doctors or whatever said, nope, Julia can't do it.
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  Speaker 2: I think she's got to do it. It's as simple
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  Speaker 2: as that. What about, let's look at the men's blood
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  Speaker 2: and guts.
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  Speaker 3: We've got a lot of options.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of think you've got to go United. The
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  Speaker 2: new AEW version of the United Empire has to be
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  Speaker 2: in it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Ospreay and whomever.
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  Speaker 4: Right now there's Ospreay and Andrade. Francesco Icaro is It
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  Speaker 4: looks like he might be sticking around for a little while,
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  Speaker 4: which I will really enjoy because he's freaking awesome. Who
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  Speaker 4: else for them is the big question.
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  Speaker 3: Four or five people.
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  Speaker 4: On a team.
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  Speaker 2: There's usually five. That's the tradition. They've gone more, I believe.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't they have more last year?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there was. Not last year, but I
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  Speaker 4: want to say the year before there were six.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean, it is fluid. They can add more.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Jon Moxley's got to be in the match.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but on which side? That's the question.
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  Speaker 2: That's the question.
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  Speaker 3: Million-dollar question.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's... How do I put this? It's...
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  Speaker 2: weird that we're struggling to find people that are going
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  Speaker 2: to be in this match, because last year, on both
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  Speaker 2: the men's and the women's side, especially on the women's side,
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  Speaker 2: we knew with fairly certainty who was going to be
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  Speaker 2: in the match, although there were a couple of injuries
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  Speaker 2: last year on the women's side that prevented a couple
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  Speaker 2: people from participating, but they would have been in there
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  Speaker 2: had they not been injured. Put it that way.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think it's just, there's not a lot of clear, like,
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  Speaker 4: five for each side to me right now. Like, the
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  Speaker 4: Bang Bang Gang could be in there, but the Death
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  Speaker 4: Riders don't really have a thing. I mean, a little bit,
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  Speaker 4: you've had Moxley and Jay White, but it's really been
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  Speaker 4: the dogs, which only have three. So it's like, do
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  Speaker 4: they just get two of the Death Riders, or how's
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  Speaker 4: it going to work? United Empire could be in it,
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  Speaker 4: but right now they only have, you know, two, maybe three. Like,
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  Speaker 4: there's no clear team-ups to me right now.
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  Speaker 2: Right, you know, and that brings up another topic, because
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  Speaker 2: since there's no clear team-ups, there have been some people
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  Speaker 2: in the community, um, Well, not necessarily in the community,
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  Speaker 2: but in the Internet wrestling community that has said, why
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  Speaker 2: are they announcing blood and guts when they don't have
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  Speaker 2: teams set up yet? There's like been no build to it.
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  Speaker 2: I have a theory about that. It's, of course, on
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  Speaker 2: November 4th coming to Devise Star Veterans Memorial Arena. The
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  Speaker 2: tickets go on sale. I believe they go on sale
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  Speaker 2: on Friday the 25th, which is next week. Right. And
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  Speaker 2: when they go on sale, you can see on the
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  Speaker 2: screen there is a seat map. And the seat map
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  Speaker 2: itself would show the two rings on the seat map.
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  Speaker 2: So that being said, when the tickets go on sale
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  Speaker 2: next week, it's going to be blatantly obvious that it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be blood and guts. That's likely the reason
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  Speaker 2: why they just went ahead and announced it, because you
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  Speaker 2: want people to get excited about it, too, of course.
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  Speaker 2: But in order for them to get excited about it,
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  Speaker 2: you've got to build it up. So AEW's got to
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  Speaker 2: come up with all-out matches. They've got to build up
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  Speaker 2: a feud, two feuds for blood and guts as well. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: do either of you have any thoughts about this?
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  Speaker 4: It should make the next few weeks really interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, especially since we had yet another announcement, and
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  Speaker 2: that is the Continental Classic starting on November 18th in Denver,
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  Speaker 2: Colorado on AEW Dynamite. So now you've got that as well.
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  Speaker 2: You've got All Out, Blood & Guts, and the C2
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  Speaker 2: starting right away. Now, you've also got to build up
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  Speaker 2: kind of like Feud's Florida Tournament. You know, because that's
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  Speaker 2: what they always do. And I mean, don't get me wrong.
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  Speaker 2: There's already feuds well in place. Would you agree with that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: But that being said, who do you think should be
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  Speaker 2: definitely in this tournament? Frankly, I don't want to see
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  Speaker 2: the same old faces. I want to see somebody new. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: As well.
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  Speaker 3: Chris, do you want to start?
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  Speaker 4: I have a pretty good list. Moxley. Finley. Jay White. Andrade. Cesaro,
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  Speaker 4: because he's awesome, I know, kind of same old face,
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  Speaker 4: but I don't care, he rules. Then I would say...
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  Speaker 4: Who's Cesaro?
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  Speaker 3: Claudio.
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  Speaker 4: God, why did I say that? Wow, wow, I am dumb.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we're not going to rush to argue with you there, buddy.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, you shouldn't, but I can't believe I did that.
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  Speaker 4: I haven't called him that. Claudio, Claudio, Claudio. I apologize
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  Speaker 4: to Mr. Claudio Castagnoli for that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but who else?
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  Speaker 4: I said Andrade. Brody King. I just like Brody King.
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  Speaker 4: Ilya Dragunov. Reports that he is signed. He'd be perfect
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  Speaker 4: in there.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to be talking about Ilya soon.
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  Speaker 4: That's all I really have for now. There's other names.
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  Speaker 4: There's a bunch of Okay, well then let's go to Val.
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  Speaker 3: You forgot somebody, Chris. I want to say his full name,
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  Speaker 3: but I can't. You can, Chris. Say his full name, please.
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  Speaker 4: The former AEW international champion, the proto-star... Kyle, Herbert Walker,
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  Speaker 4: Kenny Bungford, Mountain Dew, Camacho, Fletcher. I can't do that.
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  Speaker 1: I can't do that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you forgot Kyle.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Kyle Fletcher. Anybody else?
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  Speaker 3: So him, Mark Slade, because he's the champ, so he's
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  Speaker 3: the champ. He has to be in it. Per the rules, right?
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  Speaker 3: So him, Claudio, Jay White, Dragunov. I want to see Speedball.
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  Speaker 3: Brody King is a good choice. And Gabe.
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  Speaker 2: Gabe Kipp. I like that. You know, I have to
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  Speaker 2: say that I do not want to see Claudio. And
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  Speaker 2: I want to preface this by saying I have nothing
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  Speaker 2: against these wrestlers. But remember I said I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: see new faces. Claudio has been in every single C2.
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  Speaker 2: And he's really just there to disrupt. He's not there
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  Speaker 2: to win. I want to see somebody else there. Even
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  Speaker 2: if they're not going to win, I want to see
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  Speaker 2: somebody else disrupt. Same thing kind of goes for Brody King.
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  Speaker 2: He's there to disrupt, but he's not there to win.
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  Speaker 2: You know he's not going to win it. I want
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  Speaker 2: to see people that have a legitimate chance to win it.
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  Speaker 2: And if it's not somebody that has a legitimate chance
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  Speaker 2: to win it, I want to see somebody new in
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  Speaker 2: there to disrupt, win a couple of matches, lose some
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  Speaker 2: close ones. You know, you know what I'm saying? Uh,
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  Speaker 2: then that's what Brody King and Claudio Castagnoli had done.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to see anybody like Danny Garcia and
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  Speaker 2: for that matter, Wheeler Yuta, you know, for that matter, uh,
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  Speaker 2: Pac would be an interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I forgot about him.
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  Speaker 2: You know, uh, I wouldn't mind seeing Bandito in it. Oh, yes.
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  Speaker 4: For somebody.
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  Speaker 2: That could be a very good addition.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be interesting, yeah. Commander.
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  Speaker 2: Commander's been in it before. Remember, he actually replaced somebody
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  Speaker 2: that was injured. I can't remember who was injured.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, right.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, but I want a Commander match every week, so
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  Speaker 4: Commander should be in there.
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  Speaker 2: I do. I mean, you know how I... If you
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  Speaker 2: know me, I'm a huge Commander, Mark. I think I
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  Speaker 2: think the guy is fantastic. I would like to see
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  Speaker 2: him in it. But he's one of those guys that,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: you know, he's small. He's not going to win against
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: these monsters that are in there. You know, one name
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: that there's a couple other names for Strickland. I wouldn't
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: mind seeing him in there. I wouldn't mind seeing Tommaso
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Ciampa as a disruptor in it as well.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: That would be good. be Mortos.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Mortos has been in it before. Mortos has been in
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: it before, too, and he kind of strikes me as
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: somebody that's like Commander. You know, he's good, he's great,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: but he's just not going to have a chance. But
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I will say this, if you want to really, really,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: really amp this up to the nth degree, Mystica. Oh, yeah.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Which could be Commander. You know?
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: As long as I get to hear Mimuero.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: But anyway, but this begs the question, and this is
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: something that Val brought up. Jon Moxley is the current
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Continental Champion. Should Jon Moxley be the champion still going
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: into the Continental Classic, into the C2, or does him
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: losing it to somebody... Make it a better story for
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: him to enter C2 and have to work his way
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: through everybody to get it back. Because we just had
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: him in the Continental Challenge Cup. You know, and he
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: had the tournament as a champion. Do we really want
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: to see Jon Moxley as a champion going into yet
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: another Continental Championship tournament? I have an opinion. Or do
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: we want to see him lose it?
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: Go ahead.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: I have an opinion.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Remember when Okada won? The Continental Championship from Eddie Kingston.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: How long did he have the title? I think a
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: full year.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: I don't remember.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: But that was way, way, way, way, way too long.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: So I want Kyle Fletcher or Josh Alexander to defeat
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: mocks and be the continental champion my first choice is
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: kyle and he can do it without any help at.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: All so we didn't even mention josh alexander when we
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: were bringing up a you know fantasy booking a roster
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: here i don't see josh alexander with the title at
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: all i don't yeah i.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Can see kyle winning it i don't think josh alexander
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: is quite there in a w like he's Really good,
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: but I don't think just in turn. And he just
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: came back. I think he needs time to reestablish himself.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and I think he's, you know, when
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: you come back from an injury, you generally have to
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: take it easy a little bit. You have to be protected.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: You don't get much protection in a continental C2 match.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Excuse me. We didn't bring up Konosuke Takeshita. No, we didn't.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: We didn't actually bring up Kazuchika Okada either.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I doubt he'll be having the international title, though
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: there have been champions in it before.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't want to see Okada in the C2
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: this year.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Really? Okay, why is that?
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like he needs to step
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: up and go for the higher titles, like the international
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: and the world championships. in my opinion. Like you said,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: you wanted fresh faces. Leave Okada on the side.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: No, I noticed that nobody said Will Ospreay. No, he's
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: the world champ. He's the world champ. But anyway, back
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: to the question, in your opinion, should Jon Moxley go
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: into the C2? as the Continental Champion?
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: No.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Or would it be a better story if he wasn't?
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: It would be a better story if he wasn't.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Chris?
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: I think he should, simply because it makes it, to me,
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: more believable that we might get a new champion at
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: the end of the tournament. If he loses the title,
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: you know... Obviously, it won't be at All Out, but
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: say two weeks after that, do we really think someone's
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: going to lose the title after two months when they
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: just beat the guy who held the title for almost
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: a year? That's kind of my logic. We're either getting
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: a very, very obvious winner with a two-month champion, or, okay,
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: I can believe someone's going to take that title from Monster.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: I will say this. If Moxley does go into the
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: C2 as the champion, he should not make it to
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: the finals. That is definitive for me. And it's nothing
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: against Moxley. But like I said, he just won the
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Continental Challenge Cup. He just won a tournament. He's had
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: the title for God knows how long. That's the problem.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I can't remember when he won the title.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: At the C2.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: The last C2, that would be a year. It's too long.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: The same as the final.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: It's just one of those things where there's never been...
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I've never been convinced that there's been a good challenger
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: for that title.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: Honestly, having Moxley just miss out on the finals, you
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: can easily do it where Pac is in there, and
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: they're in the same block, and whoever you're going to
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: have win it is in the same block as well.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: You have Pock beat Mox in the first match of
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: the block, like the first match for both of them.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: And then you have Moxley win the next view, but
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: lose to the person who's going to win the whole thing.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Sense.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: I don't want to see AEW get into a rut
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: with their championships. I was very, very vociferous about, you know,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: we knew that Will Ospreay was going to win the
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: world championship at all in. You know, we knew, you know, that,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: you know, it's just obvious different things that happened. You know,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: and Conrad and I have this discussion all the time,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Conrad being from the Everything Pro Wrestling podcast. where he
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: says that predictability isn't always bad. And my rebuttal to
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: that is if you have to say predictability isn't always
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: bad all the time, then it's bad. Then you know
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: you're too predictable, but you haven't defended all the time.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: So that is just something, that's just my observation. I
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: want to see AEW take a chance. I want to
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: see AEW do something unpredictable. One of the things that
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: I have seen a lot of people talking about, as
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: far as even the C2 goes, is Ilya Dragunov. Veiple
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: is reporting that Ilya Dragunov is imminently coming to AEW.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: And I have seen a lot of people say that
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: he should be in the C2, and it would be
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: something for him to win it. What do you guys think?
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: I definitely want to see him in the C2. What
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: I would love is he wins every block match, wins
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: the semifinal match, but loses in the finals. Because, okay,
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: you've made him beat six top-tier wrestlers, and then the
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: final match, he fights tooth and nail, but just loses it.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: He doesn't lose any credibility or anything. and you establish
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: that champion, it's like, okay, this is the freaking guy
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Val, what do you have to say?
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Tony Khan, for making dreams come true. I
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: love this guy, and I've been a fan for a
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: couple of years now, watching him at the other company,
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: so that he's jumping in AEW, and a lot of
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: wrestlers want to face him. And He has to be
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: in the C2. He has to be. And I already have, like,
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: a final in my head, and I'm crossing my fingers
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: that if he's in the C2, he's not in the
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: same block as the person I have in mind for
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: the finals.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Well, say the person you have in mind, because you're
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: not making any sense if you don't.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Kyle freaking Fletcher.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Him versus Dragunov.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, so... That's what you want in the finals.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Now, I want to ask, I am not as familiar
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: with Ilya Dragunov. Okay. I have watched a few of
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: his matches. But if you were, because there's going to
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: be some AEW fans that are not as familiar with
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: him and his style. Chris and Val, if you would,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: how would you describe his style? And not only his style,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: but his size, his athletic ability, his strength, etc.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Oh my God, he has strength, strength, strength, strength. I
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: said about him probably maybe a week or two ago
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: that I would see him in the Death Riders. I
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: would see him with the group because of how the
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: group is set up. The physicality, he has it. The charisma,
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: he has it. He is incredible to watch. Chris, do
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: you agree?
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he is very intense. That feels like the best
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: word to describe him. his entrance alone, you just, like,
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: feel this, like, okay, this is a guy who is
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: ready to beat somebody, but, like, this is a guy
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: who is out not to win a match, but to
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: win a fight, and he's gonna make it into a fight. Like,
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: he is hard-hitting, he is forward, forward, forward, always charging
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: into attack.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: So would you say that that's his outlier? Is that
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: his trademark? Is he a brawler? Is he a high flyer?
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: More a brawler. More a brawler. He reminds me of
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Mark Staley a little bit.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: I would say he's more like a technical striker. Like,
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: definitely some brawling in there, but it's more focused, sharp strikes. Like,
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: A lot of chops, a lot of, I mean, I
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: know he does like a crazy running, flying headbutt, which
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: is just, it looks nuts. And it's one of those
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: things that it's like, that should not work at all,
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: but it does.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Now, again, I said, and I admitted to it, and I,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: you know, and I'm not ashamed to admit to it,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: is that I'm not as familiar with Yulia Dragunov as
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: most other people. One thing I did notice on me,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: he seems to be on the smaller side to me.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Yes, he does.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: So if I had to, from watching of like two
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: or three of his matches in the last couple of days,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: I would compare him size-wise. I'm not talking about his
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: ability or anything here. I would compare him size-wise to
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: maybe somebody like Daniel Garcia. Is that? It's accurate. Yeah.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: That's accurate?
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Okay. Maybe a little closer to Pac. Yeah.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I agree. He doesn't seem to be muscular at all.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: He seems to be lanky, and I'm just going by
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: what I saw. Now, again, remember this, is that these
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: matches that I watched, they were not recent matches. I
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: don't know when they were, but you can tell that
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: they weren't recent matches. His body shape may have changed,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: you know, over three, four years since these matches have
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: been aired.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. He's definitely more muscular now. I mean, he is.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: I just looked it up. He's 5'10, 210. So, I mean,
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: he technically falls in that junior heavyweight reign, but he
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: doesn't wrestle like a junior heavyweight. Okay.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: You know, as I said earlier, Fightful did confirm, I
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: think that's the word they used, confirmed that Ilya Dragunov
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: is coming to AEW. Today, they announced another wrestler that...
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: is coming to AEW, and that's Danny Luna. If you're
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: not familiar with Danny Luna, she is a women's wrestler
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: coming from TNA. She was in 2024 Pro Wrestling Insider's 250,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: ranked Danny Luna's number 23 out of 250, the top
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: 250 in women's wrestling. Are you guys familiar with Danny.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Luna I do not.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: I've seen a little bit of her on Maple Leaf
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: Pro Wrestling on my AEW.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: She was there?
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: The one thing that I noticed about Danny Luna, and
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: this is something that I just think is kind of funny,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: she's got Ace Austin thighs. The woman is all thighs.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: It's impressive.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: She's got a base on her, and it's all in
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: the thighs. She's got good size. I believe she's 5'5, 139. But, man,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: go look at pictures of her. Her thighs are well-developed.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: You know, so she's going to be one of those
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: people that are going to be strong. Put it that way.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Speaking of Maple Leaf Pro Wrestling, it was kind of funny.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: They have a show. I think they're starting a new
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: show called Ignition.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw it.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Come on, guys. We've had Ignition, the name for... I mean,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: we're certainly not the only... I mean this, you know, ingest.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Take this, everything I'm saying now, tongue-in-cheek. But we've had
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: this name for, you know, several years now. We've been
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: doing this podcast. And, you know, then they come and
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: they take our name. So, you know, somebody suggested that
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I write them a cease and desist, which... you know,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: that's just too much writing. I don't want to do that.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: But if Maple Leaf Pro Wrestling is listening to this
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: podcast right now, I demand financial restitution for you to
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: be able to use our name on your show. And
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: I want $ 100 donated to IMLALS.org. There you go. It's
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: just I just thought it was funny, you know, because honestly,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: if you go and you look up Ignition on like
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: any of the podcast things, there's so many podcasts called Ignition.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: You know, there's only so many names out there. And
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: a wrestling show has absolutely nothing to do with a
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: wrestling podcast. You know what I mean? So copyright laws
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: would not probably even be in play here, especially since
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Maple Leaf Pro Wrestling is from Canada. and has no
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: bearing on American copyright laws.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we have different laws.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so anyway, I just thought I'd bring that up.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Danny Luna is apparently coming to AEW. That's pretty exciting,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: you know, because she is. You don't get to be
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: number 23 in the PWY 250 on the women's side
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: without being a damn good wrestler, because you've got to
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: look at all those wrestling companies like Starz AEW, WWE, NXT,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Ring of Honor, Stardom, TJPW, Sendai Girls, and all the others.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Eve Pro Wrestling. Number 23 is impressive. Any way you
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: turn it. Moving on, these guys, Swear Strickland and The
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: New Deal. I'm going to say New Deal until it sticks.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: I said New Deal last week, and everybody came down
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: and was like, You said New Deal. I was like,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I did? Yeah. Okay, well, then it's New Deal.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: Oops, you did it again.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Well, I did it on purpose this time. But anyway,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Swerve Strickland, Swerve Strickland, new level. Trios champions. You know
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: how I feel about trios and trios matches. I don't
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: enjoy them. I would much rather see a singles match
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: than a trios match. I just... I've been saying, I've
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: been shouting at the moon for the last two and
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: a half years at least that the Trios Championships in
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: AEW should be retired. Okay? Now the way that the
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Trios is, there's more Trios teams that they don't look
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: like they're forced. They look like actual Trios teams. It
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: is a little bit more interesting as far as the
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: teams go to me. But again, I'm not an enjoyer
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: of Trios matches, mostly because there's too much going on.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: You don't know who's tagged in some of the times.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: And then there's that whole thing where everybody that's not
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: tagged in, they're kind of laying on the ground outside
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: the ring because somebody flicked their forehead. with their finger
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: you know what i mean i mean i i just
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: don't like i like logic in my wrestling entertainment and
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: this just isn't logical to me the trios matches and
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: of course you have that spot that they always do
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: where everybody gets their moves in yeah i'm like okay
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: we're doing this again in every match it happens and
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: it's preposterous to me i hate it i hate it
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: with a passion So, do you think that the trios
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: division has been elevated?
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely. Like, I mean, that match is all in.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, you had seven trios. I mean, with top
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: tier stars. Like, I mean... You know, you have, you
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: had former world champions in there, tag team champions, international champions, like,
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: all of them were former trios champions. Like, the division
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: is really stacked right now. I love trios. Like, I
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: enjoy it. You know, I'm, I guess I'm a little
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: more used to it with watching like New Japan and
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: stuff because they do a lot of trios, four-man, stuff
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: like that. Lucha Libre, trios, matches are a big thing.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: So for me, this is great. I am excited to
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: see the division. I'm excited to see more matches. I
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: really like Swerve and New Level as the champions right now.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: So this is great.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: Two thumbs up from me.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Val, what do you think? Do you think that the
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: trios division has been elevated as of late? Absolutely.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: With Kofi and Austin Creed being in AEW, now the
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: stakes are going to get a little bit higher because
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: there's another trio that we haven't mentioned that is coming back,
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: hopefully pretty, pretty soon. And you know which team that
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Actually, I have no clue you do that all. You
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: do this a lot. You assume that I know what
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: you're talking about. I'm talking about the elite.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: Come on, Kelson.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: The dream match that everybody wants to see.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Just keep commentary on my wayward son.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, with that song.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Don't assume that, you know, I told you before, you
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: had the same you have the same name as my ex-wife.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: You told me that.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: And she used to do that. She used to do
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: that all the time, where she assumed that I knew
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: what the hell she was talking about. You know what
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about. No, if I knew what you were
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: talking about, I'd be nodding my head dumbly or something.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: I have no clue what you're talking about.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: And I don't.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: I have no clue what you're talking about.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm talking about the elite, of course. That's what
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: And by the elite, you're talking about the Young Bucks
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: and Kenny?
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: The original. They are the original.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, with Val, it's 98% certain that she's either
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: talking about Kitty or Speedball when she mentions that.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, this is true.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: The other 2% is Kyle Fletcher.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: That reminds me, when we were fantasy booking the C2.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: I did say Speedball. We didn't say Kevin Knight.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: No, that's right. That's right.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: But he was there last year. Same as Speedball.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: This is true, but he's a lot different. I would
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: say both Speedball and Kevin Knight, you can disagree with
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: me if you want, but I would say today's Speedball
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: and today's Kevin Knight far exceed last year's Speedball and
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: last year's Kevin. Yeah, yeah.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: And the match that he had with Mark Slayer on
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Saturday was pretty good. Pretty good.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So... Yeah. I mean, look at Speedball's matches with
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Kyle Fletcher. I would love to see that run back
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: in the C2.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God, please.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: So, yeah.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: So, yeah. So, if we talk about the Trios match, yeah.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: I didn't talk a lot about Kenny these days, these
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: past few weeks. But he's coming back. He's taking a
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: little bit of time off. He's in Japan right now.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: He's going to do some of the Tokyo Game Show
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: on Saturday. But he's coming back, and he's going to
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: come back with Matt and Nick and do the Elite
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Run one more time.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, let's move on. It's Stephen! I thought that
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: he did a really good job at his match. You know,
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: his tag team match with Darby Allin.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: It was impressive.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: He's definitely got the look. He's definitely got the aura.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: His brother Garrett is now also wrestling. As a matter
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: of fact, Garrett won his match in Rhodes Wrestling Association,
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: I think is what it's called, the RWA, over the weekend.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: And then he got jumped and Steven came out. and
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: made the save. And now we're getting Garrett and Steven
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: in a tag team match in RWA and in the
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: coming weeks. So, you know, Garrett may be coming to
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: AEW as well. Although Steven has been training for a
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: couple of years. I don't know how long Garrett has
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: been training. I don't think it's been that long, maybe
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: like a couple of months, you know? So, but yeah, Steven, that, that,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: who did he give him? The dropkick that he did
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: with Mark Davis sitting on the turnbuckle.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: He has a beautiful dropkick.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: I love his dropkick. Yeah, I mean, Okada would be proud.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: And then the Scorpion Coffin Drop was a cool move.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, do you guys see Steven? I mean, he's
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: definitely working tag teams, trios, and that makes sense. Because
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: you've got to protect him a little bit. Do you
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: guys see him, like, this time next year? I just
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: talked about how much more, how much Speedball and Kevin
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Knight have advanced since last year at this time. Do
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: you see this kind of thing probably happening to Steve?
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got potential.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he is loaded with potential potential. I'd
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: love to see him, like, obviously he's going to be
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: on Dynamite and Collision. I'd love to see him on
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: Ring of Honor when he's not on Dynamite and Collision.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: And I think in a year or so, you know,
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: send him over to Japan for a little, send him
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: over to New Japan for a little bit, let him
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: get some reps in there. And when he comes back, like,
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: this is the guy, if you put in the time
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: and work over the next 18 months, I legitimately believe
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: he can be a top-tier star.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I agree.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: He's got the potential. He looked great in that match.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: The promo was relatively simple, but he did a great
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: job with it. Yeah, I think sky's the limit for
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: this guy.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: How about you, Val? Do you have any other thoughts
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: about Stephen Borden?
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: I agree with Chris 100%. He got the He's got
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: the looks. He's got the physique. He's got it. I mean,
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: you can see his dad. When I was watching him,
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: I was like, geez, that's his dad from 20, 30
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: years ago.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: That's the one thing that I see as a negative.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: He's always going to be compared to his dad. And
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: any time that I hear people say, oh, he looks
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: like his dad or he reminds me of his dad,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: When it comes to his wrestling, that takes away from
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: his talent. They're noticing his dad and not him.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: And I think that's a negative. But I think with time,
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: he will surpass. And we don't even mention that anymore.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I consciously try not to think of
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Sting when I'm watching Stephen Borden. It's hard because they
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: do look very similar. And they wear... You know, it's
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: kind of like the same kind of gear almost, you know,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: the black gear, whatever. You know, but it is what
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: it is. Just a couple more things. I wanted to
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: get your thoughts on the Rebel Heart Dynamite and the
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: tribute show to The Butcher. How did you think? Did
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: AEW nail it or did they drop the ball? You know,
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: I think they nailed it, but what do you guys think?
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: I think they nailed it as well. The Rebel Heart
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: Show is great. You know, ALS takes so much from
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: a person. But you can tell, like, it didn't take
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: Rebel's spirit. It didn't take her heart. It didn't take
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: her comedic timing.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, when she was, when she had Britt
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Baker on her lap, Chris.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, she was, I think those were happy tears.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: You know, that's the most emotional tears. I mean, everybody
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: cries because they're sad, but it takes a lot to
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: cry when you're happy. And I was so happy to
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: see that. I really was.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: I cried my eyes out. I was watching that and
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: I had tears in my eyes and was like, oh,
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, it was emotional.
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, some tears would definitely cut onions around me.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, even when she did the, when they opened
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: the show with her and Brett and she was funny and,
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: you know, you can see that she was happy to
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: be there and she was happy to to be ringside,
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: to cheer on bread, and you even have Ikaru Shida almost,
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: I think she cried, I'm not sure.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: Shida was the first to break.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so yeah, and she cried, and I was like,
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: oh gosh, it's so emotional, and for the butcher, I mean,
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: the tribute was, my gosh, I cried every time a
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: person was talking about him talk especially made me cry
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: um it reminded me a little bit of when when
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: Owen died like many many many years ago was like
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: I had the same feeling all over again so in
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: the end in the end and the pro the montage
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: and all the wrestlers that were on the ramp I
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: mean beautiful beautiful yeah Yeah, that's.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: The only thing that I kind of wish they had
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: done differently. I wish they would have done that montage
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: that they did at the end of the show at
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: the 9 o'clock hour. I don't know. Because I think
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: that a lot of people may have missed it live
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: because they may have tuned out by then thinking the
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: show was over. Because I actually thought the show was
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: over and then they brought that up. Yeah, but like
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: with The Butcher, it was... I thought it was a
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: really good tribute. I did.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: I was a little disappointed that the blade wasn't there, but,
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: you know, he was booked, from what I understand, on
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: another show that night. He couldn't get out of it, whatever.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: Maybe he didn't.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Want to get out of it.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, at least he got a little bit of time,
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: thanks to Tony Schiavone, who read something that he wrote
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: about his tag team partner, which was pretty cool.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. But, you know... Obviously, if you go
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: on the AEW Fan Hub, if you go on any
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: social media, nothing negative was said about either show as
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: far as the tribute to the Butcher and the support
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: for Rebel. And by the way, I thought Rebel looked
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: absolutely beautiful.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: Yes, she did.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: Especially at the beginning of the show and her bit
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: with Britt, you know, and Hikaru Shida. So.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: And also, I read that there was a petition about
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: a law, probably, that financing something.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, financing the research for AOS. Congress had not passed
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: the federal law. She did come on to social media
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: and posted a video asking for people to sign a petition.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Had a lot of people from the AEW fan-up community
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: went out and signed that petition. And, you know, personally,
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that. And it goes without saying that probably
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: the people that signed the petition appreciated it, too. You know,
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: I do want to bring up one final thing, because
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: somebody made a post on the AEW fan-up subreddit, and
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: I shared it on our other socials, and it's gotten
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: a lot of play. And that is, I don't know
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: if you guys are familiar with the TV show Dancing
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: with the Stars.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: I do. I do, actually.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Are you familiar with it, Chris?
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever watched it.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Well, basically, what it is is that you have celebrities,
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: usually not the top, top, top celebrities, but, you know,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: mid-tier celebrities.
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've seen clips of them.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they are... paired with a professional dancer to
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: compete in a ballroom dancing competition. And it's kind of
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: like an elimination thing where one, sometimes two people are
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: eliminated during the week, and then the first person, the
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: person that's left standing at the end of the competition
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: wins this really horribly gaudy but well-beloved mirror ball trophy.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: So the person that made the post on the AEW
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Fan Hub subreddit asked, What AEW wrestler, one AEW wrestler
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: that you think would be good to participate on Dancing
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: with the Stars?
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: Do you want to know a funny story? I started
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: watching the show way, way back because it's season 35.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: And I started watching that show since season two because
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: there was a wrestler that was on that show. And
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: her name was Stacey Keillor. She was the first ever
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: wrestler being on that show.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: And she did terrific.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: She did fantastic. She finished third that year. And it
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: was like, I think it was probably 2005, 2006 maybe?
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: We're running out of time, but I did want to
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: ask you the question, which you I don't want a
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: history lesson. I wanted to ask you a question. Which
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: one AEW wrestler that you think would do well on
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars?
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: I would say Mercedes. On the women's side and on
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: the men's side, I would say Will.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: Okay. Will Ospreay did say that he wanted to participate
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: on Strictly Come Dancing, which is the UK version of
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars, which it actually originated out there.
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars is like a copycat. Chris, do
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: you have any answers?
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, the women's side, obviously, Mina Shirakawa. She's the
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: best dancer ever.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, to be fair, to be fair, you know,
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: you said that Valerie would always bring up Speedball Mike
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Bailey and Kenny Omega. You will always bring up Mina Shirakawa.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: So there you go.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: I apologize for nothing. I knew you would say me. Hey,
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, she is a great dancer.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she is.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Do you have anybody on the men's side?
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: Leo Russ.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Very interesting. Since the question only asked for one, you know,
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: I thought of somebody that had the athletic ability and
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: maybe a little bit of training in dance, you know,
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: in AEW. So I immediately thought of Julia Hart.
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: But I will say this, based on, we've had a
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: couple hundred replies throughout social media about this. I would
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: say by far, by far, the number one answer, and
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: I would have never thought about it, but the number
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: one answer was Daniel Garcia.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good one.
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: You could be good.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: On the women's side, a lot of people said Toni Storm.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: There were several people that said Mina Shirakawa and Mercedes Monet.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: There was a couple of Megan Baines that I saw
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: as well. But I would say probably the one that
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: got the most votes on the women's side was Thunder Rosa.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Okay. Interesting.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was interesting. But anyway, that's our
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: show for tonight. We will be back. Next Thursday. Next Thursday.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Listen to me. Oh, my gosh.
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: Oh, my gosh.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: Next Tuesday. Next Tuesday night, and unbelievably, it will be
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: our all-out preview and prediction show. So let's hope and
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: pray that we actually have something to predict and preview,
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: meaning that we hope that AEW makes some matches. We
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: have three at least. We have something to talk about.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: We have three. It'll be a quick show at this point,
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: I was going to say, if they don't make at
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: least three more matches, that's going to be a really
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: fast show.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to talk, you know, we'll have to
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: talk about who do we think should in AEW should,
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: you know, appear on Survivor or The Bachelor or The Bachelor.
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: The Great British Bake Off.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. Anyway. We will be back next Tuesday
• 58:15
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• 58:19
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• 58:24
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• 58:27
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• 58:31
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• 58:36
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• 58:41
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• 58:54
  Speaker 2: the overruns are pretty consistent now. It's not an 8 p.m.
• 58:58
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• 59:02
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• 59:09
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• 59:11
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• 59:14
  Speaker 2: 40 AEW Fan Hub Community Podcast Team, this is Kelson.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Good night, everybody.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: Good night, Kenny.
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: Good night, Minas Geri.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: Good night, Beast Mordos. I got to come up with
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: somebody new, right?