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UK Column News Podcast 7th April 2025 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, and welcome to UK Column News. Today is Monday,
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Speaker 1: the seventh of April twenty twenty five, just after one o'clock.
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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Brian Irish and delighted to have with
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Speaker 1: me in the studio Ben Rubin, and we've got Diane
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Speaker 1: rasmuson MCINNY joining us by live video link. What a day,
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Speaker 1: and viewers today get a glimpse of a wonderful outlook
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Speaker 1: on Plymouth Sound with blue sea, blue sky and a
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Speaker 1: lot of sunshine, so really lovely backdrop today, which we're
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Speaker 1: delighted to have. Now we're going to get started right
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Speaker 1: away with a subject we've talked about before, which is
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Speaker 1: the rapidly approaching state crackdown on free speech. And this
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Speaker 1: is something that if we don't tackle this properly then
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Speaker 1: column itself is under grave threat because there is no
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Speaker 1: doubt the agenda is for the British state to control
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Speaker 1: all press and media.
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Speaker 2: Over to you, Ben, Thank you, Brian. Hey everyone, and
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Speaker 2: we're going to pick up on a theme that we
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Speaker 2: were exploring last week, and actually not just last week.
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Speaker 2: We talk about this all the time and it is
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Speaker 2: the audacious takeover of the national, regional and local news
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Speaker 2: through philanthropic funding, government intervention and an overbearing and increasingly
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Speaker 2: censorious media regulator. Last week we were looking at this
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Speaker 2: report from Demos Epistemic Security twenty twenty nine fortifying the
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Speaker 2: UK's information supply chain to tackle the democratic emergency Too
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Speaker 2: long didn't read it. Basically, they want more powers to
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Speaker 2: censor you. The Online Safety Act is it not enough
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Speaker 2: and they want more powers. And we're going to explore
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Speaker 2: that with specific reference to something that they call news deserts. Interestingly,
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Speaker 2: which is a term that emerged in this report. We're
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Speaker 2: going to look at where that's come from. So if
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Speaker 2: we go back to that and jump to page thirty,
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Speaker 2: which is about boosting our domestic information supply chain, specifically
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Speaker 2: section four B. I know you all went and downloaded this,
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Speaker 2: so if you've got it in front of you can
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Speaker 2: go and read it. So four B provides targeted funding
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Speaker 2: to stimulate a new era of vibrant local news in
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Speaker 2: what they call news deserts. That's what this is about.
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Speaker 2: And the recommendation is for central Government to provide a
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Speaker 2: funding package blended with other sources of funding eg. From
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Speaker 2: philanthropists and big tech funds, to help stimulate a new
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Speaker 2: era of vibrant local news, starting at fifty pounds a
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Speaker 2: year and focusing on what they describe as news deserts.
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Speaker 2: We've got these news deser it's all around the UK
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Speaker 2: and in order to fill them, to bring them back
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Speaker 2: to life, philanthropists, the government and big tech have got
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Speaker 2: to come together and inject a load of money into this.
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Speaker 2: I wonder if any of that will becoming in our direction.
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure it comes from this organization. This is
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Speaker 2: based on some work done by Public Interest News Foundation,
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Speaker 2: who work very closely with Demos. They reference three times
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Speaker 2: in the report, and we're going to look at them
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Speaker 2: and what they're all about. So this is their website.
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Speaker 2: They've been around for five years and obviously they're a nonprofit, nonpartisan,
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Speaker 2: purely altruistic organization focused on the public interest. And what
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Speaker 2: does public interest news mean? I think it's important for
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Speaker 2: us to define this, given it's what we're talking about here.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to read this whole thing out. Actually, men,
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Speaker 2: we'll dwell on each of these points. So public interest
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Speaker 2: news is and other information which is produced and disseminated
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Speaker 2: to the public according to high standards of ethical conduct
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Speaker 2: and best practice in journalism and which provides one or
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Speaker 2: more of the following benefits to the public. First one
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Speaker 2: informs members of the public about matters of relevance to
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Speaker 2: their role and responsibilities as citizens. So this is what
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Speaker 2: you've got to do, citizen. Yeah. Second point enables members
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Speaker 2: of local communities to become aware of and understand matters
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Speaker 2: of common concern to them as members of their community,
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Speaker 2: and which promotes their involvement and cooperation in such matters
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Speaker 2: and community cohesion accordingly, So you've got to know what
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Speaker 2: you got to do, and you've got to be cooperative
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Speaker 2: with it.
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Speaker 1: And you've got to do it otherwise you're going to
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Speaker 1: be in trouble. So this is the trouble to control
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Speaker 1: of communities and individuals by the.
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Speaker 2: Government, absolutely right. Third point enables members of the public
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Speaker 2: to participate in an informed manner in relevant democratic processes.
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Speaker 2: So I'm thinking maybe citizens assemblies are looking behind this
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Speaker 2: and as a result, supports the legitimacy of the democratic
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Speaker 2: process as a whole. That's an important one there. Fourth
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Speaker 2: point benefits the public by promoting charitable educational outcomes, such
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Speaker 2: as improving public understanding of health and medical matters like pandemics.
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Speaker 2: I guess.
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Speaker 1: So this is your You're going to be told what
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Speaker 1: you need to believe, and if you don't believe the
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Speaker 1: official narrative, you're going to be in trouble.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, all the conservation of the environments, that's the climate agenda,
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Speaker 2: pandemics and climate in that fourth point final point specifically
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Speaker 2: excludes material which is simply entertaining in nature, like UK column,
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Speaker 2: we just entertainment or politically motivated, biased or inaccurate, So
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Speaker 2: no disinformation or which or which fails to observe a
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Speaker 2: person's right to privacy. Right, So those things aren't Public
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Speaker 2: interest news. And apparently according to Public Interest News Foundation,
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Speaker 2: there is a desert There are deserts all around the
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Speaker 2: country of Public Interest News and they've built this quite
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Speaker 2: impressive interactive map you can go and look at, and
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Speaker 2: they've collated across the whole country where they see deserts,
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Speaker 2: spaces where there is no reliable information for communities to access.
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Speaker 2: And one of those actually interesting. I'm going to look
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Speaker 2: at Plymouth. I thought we should look at pl one.
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Speaker 2: See what's going to pl One. And bear in mind
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Speaker 2: they've looked at all media. This is an extraordinarily in
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Speaker 2: depth study, right, So we Apparently we've got two three
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Speaker 2: media organizations in Plymouth, Plymouth Chronicle, Plymouth Herald funded by
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Speaker 2: UK government. Now look at the bottom left. This is
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Speaker 2: funded by the UK government. But what's happening in Plympton.
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Speaker 2: There's nothing happening Plimpton. It's quite amazing, but we're seeing
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Speaker 2: in Plympton. Now, Brian, why are we not on the.
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Speaker 1: Map because we're not giving the right news?
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Speaker 2: No, it's because we're simply entertainment purposes, aren't we. We're
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Speaker 2: not serious, right, So apparently no UK column. There's no
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Speaker 2: UK column on your interactive map public interest news. The
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Speaker 2: government clearly didn't pay you enough money. So anyway, what
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Speaker 2: else are they up to other than looking at news
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Speaker 2: deserts well importantly how to fill them? And they were
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Speaker 2: commissioned by this other organization, the Local News Commission, which
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Speaker 2: is actually just the same people. Basically they always do this.
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Speaker 2: They set up a new independent thing, but it's all
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Speaker 2: the same people in the background. But this Local News
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Speaker 2: Commission popped up towards the end of last year, drawing
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Speaker 2: on deep expertise from UK civil society, politics, trade unions
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Speaker 2: and business to shape media policy. They commission this report
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Speaker 2: and within it they look at the current state of media, right,
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Speaker 2: So this is the media eCos they mapped out. Go
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Speaker 2: download the report. By the way, we will always provide
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Speaker 2: links to these things. You should go and read them yourself.
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Speaker 2: And this is what they call democracy and danger right.
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Speaker 2: And you can see the key. The different colored arrows
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Speaker 2: represent unhealthy for red, week for yellow or healthy for green,
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Speaker 2: and if they're thicker that means higher engagement. So you
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Speaker 2: can see that the BBC has got a healthy but
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Speaker 2: low engagement relationship with fragile communities at the top. Communities
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Speaker 2: are fragile at the moment because the BBC is talking
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Speaker 2: to them. You've got a fragile local news in the
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Speaker 2: center there, which the BBC is also talking to as well.
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Speaker 2: So there's a just a one way relationship between the
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Speaker 2: BBC because the local news obviously look at what the
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Speaker 2: BBC is saying and then they report that and then
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Speaker 2: central government's got a bit of a role to play.
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Speaker 2: Local councils have got a week and one way relationship
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Speaker 2: with local news. But the big red flag is the
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Speaker 2: top left there. It's big tech, the big bad, dangerous
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Speaker 2: the Internet. Elon Musk and Andrew Tate and where dragons
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Speaker 2: are you know, out online, you know, and that's causing
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Speaker 2: fragile communities and ultimately it's causing democracy to wither. If
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Speaker 2: you see, they're in the top right hand corner. Democracy
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Speaker 2: is withering, all right, and we've got to fix this.
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Speaker 2: How are we going to fix it? We're going to
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Speaker 2: move to this model. This is twenty thirty five. This
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Speaker 2: is democracy regenerated, where the BBC has a much stronger
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Speaker 2: and more collaborative relationship with local news media through the
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Speaker 2: Local Democracy Reporting Scheme, which is already in place. They
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Speaker 2: want to bump that up. Central government has a more
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Speaker 2: engaged role with local news media something called the civic center.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you clocked that, but they've actually
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Speaker 2: changed from a town hall to a civic center. So
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Speaker 2: the local council is going to be a new form
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Speaker 2: of local council in this model by twenty twenty five,
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Speaker 2: and the local council is going to have a much
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Speaker 2: more direct relationship with these empowered communities at the top.
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Speaker 2: So will the community news room. There's a new entrant philanthropy. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: Center Left is going to be a lot of money
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Speaker 2: and a lot of influence coming into this ecosystem. From
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Speaker 2: philanthropy rich people. Right, this is money and power colluding
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Speaker 2: with each other in order to take control of the
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Speaker 2: media ecosystem in order to, as they see it, in
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Speaker 2: power community, so that democracy might flourish. All right, what
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Speaker 2: could possibly go wrong? And the big tech ecosystem has
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Speaker 2: been tamed. Yeah, we can see that it's now been
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Speaker 2: regulated and restrained and is much more trustworthy. Ultimately, you know, my.
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Speaker 1: Comment on this spend is, of course, the moment you
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Speaker 1: let local councils loose with news, all that's simply going
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Speaker 1: to come out is more of the mainstream political propaganda.
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Speaker 1: Because of course local councils are now highly politicized. They
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Speaker 1: only follow the lead from the controlling party. So if
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Speaker 1: it's a labor council, it's going to be labor propaganda,
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Speaker 1: and if it's a conservative council, it's going to be
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Speaker 1: concerned a propaganda. So this is immensely dangerous. I can
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Speaker 1: imagine that a Second World War Germany would have been
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Speaker 1: desperate to be able to buy and facilitate this type
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Speaker 1: of system in order to get propaganda to the individual
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Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day. This is really serious stuff
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Speaker 1: and people need to understand if this architecture comes into place.
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Speaker 1: Free speech in this country absolutely gone completely.
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Speaker 2: And guess who funded this report? Well? This actually so
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Speaker 2: who funds Public interest News Foundations to be absolutely on
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Speaker 2: the button about this, So Ben Goldsmith Jimmy Goldsmith's son,
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Speaker 2: so he's in the philanthropy bucket. DCMS, so like the
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Speaker 2: Department for Culture, Media and Sport have funded this report,
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Speaker 2: this organization, the European Media and Information Fund, Joseph Rowntree
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Speaker 2: Charitable Trust, Illuminate, which is Daniel Sachs Foundation. They've got
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Speaker 2: money in there, the Open Societies, Paul Hamlin, all the
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Speaker 2: usual suspects, basically the NHS because obviously we need to
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Speaker 2: pay attention to public health information. That was in the
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Speaker 2: definition of public interest media, wasn't it right, So that's
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Speaker 2: who's pushing this. Yeah, so government and philanthropy want more
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Speaker 2: involvement in media, so they funded a report to make
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Speaker 2: that exact recommendation. It's a bit circular, isn't it. Who's
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Speaker 2: behind Public Interest News Foundation Some of the individuals. So
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Speaker 2: we've got Julius Weinberg, he's the chair former chair of OFSTED.
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Speaker 2: Interestingly for a number of years, Poly Curtis from Demos,
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Speaker 2: she's the deputy chair of this organization. So DEMOS uses
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Speaker 2: Public Interest News Foundation as an external source of recommendations
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Speaker 2: to put into its report. But actually the person who
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Speaker 2: runs DEMOS is on the board of the Public Interest
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Speaker 2: News Foundation. It's all a bit incestuous, isn't it. Who else?
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Speaker 2: Richard Scorer? This is a fascinating one, right, So he's
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Speaker 2: a solicitor and he the Independent Inquiries public inquiries into
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Speaker 2: child sexual abuse, the Manchester Arena bombing, the COVID nineteen inquiry,
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Speaker 2: the Third Wall inquiry which is Lucy Letbee, and the
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Speaker 2: inquiry into the death of Don Sturgis, which is the
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Speaker 2: Novechuk issue. So that man there, Scorer is basically one
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Speaker 2: of the primary representatives of establishment narrative around some of
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Speaker 2: the most controversial issues that have happened in the past
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Speaker 2: twenty years. And he's on the trustee board of this organization.
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Speaker 2: Went in to control local news media. Isn't that a
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Speaker 2: bit odd and not?
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Speaker 1: If your agenda is total control state control of all
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Speaker 1: media and press, Yeah, then quite okay.
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Speaker 2: So this is these are the trustees, So these are
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Speaker 2: non execs essentially, Let's have a look at a few
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Speaker 2: of the exec team again, go and look at the
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Speaker 2: website itself. First one Jonathan Hayward. He is the executive director,
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Speaker 2: former editor of the Fabian Review. That's his big claim
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Speaker 2: to fame. So Fabian's right in the mix. He's also
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Speaker 2: a leadership fellow at Saint George's House in Windsor, so
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Speaker 2: so nestled up right next to the royal family. Jal
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Speaker 2: Deep Catwella who's the network manager former BBC Channel four.
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Speaker 2: Un you get the picture. And then the guy on
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Speaker 2: the end there is a fascinating one, Samir Padania. So
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Speaker 2: he's involved with open Society foundations, the Welcome Trust with Nestor,
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Speaker 2: and also the International Fund for Public Interest Media that
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Speaker 2: I spoke about about a month ago. I think it
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Speaker 2: was where Mark Thompson is on the board right, So
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Speaker 2: this is a local news but he's linked right up
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Speaker 2: into the stratosphere in the global ecosystem around this. And
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Speaker 2: he's also a trustee of something called the Indigo Trust.
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Speaker 2: And if you remember this bloke William perryin Obe last week,
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Speaker 2: the guy that helped found Demos not demos found offcom
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Speaker 2: sorry worked for Blair has got to think called the
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Speaker 2: Indigo Trust that he's actually a founder of that guy
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Speaker 2: Padania is a trustee of that trust. So this is
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Speaker 2: all just interconnected. It's just all the same pie. It's
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Speaker 2: just one thing. Yeah, I think it gets presented as
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Speaker 2: many things. Extraordinarily corrupt, Yeah, and dishonest. Yeah. It's they're
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Speaker 2: lying to us, frankly about their intentions and their methods.
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Speaker 1: How the system works. But it's a revolving door.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And you've got one more here, I think.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do, indeed, just very quickly, just to look
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Speaker 2: at how this is actually coming to life in practice.
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Speaker 2: So this is a case study from the Public Interest
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Speaker 2: News Foundation website about ipswitch dot co dot uk. And
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Speaker 2: I'll just pull out two quotes from the article ipswich
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Speaker 2: doesn't need more journalism, it needs change. And also twenty
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Speaker 2: two organizations fund our journalism through an annual fee. We
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Speaker 2: call this a common purpose Levee, I think says quite
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Speaker 2: a bit.
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Speaker 1: That's just got to be a coincidence, I think, Ben, Well,
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Speaker 1: let's move across to the so called mainstream or better
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Speaker 1: known as the legacy media. And of course, for many
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Speaker 1: people through their letterbox dropped to Sunday Mail yesterday, let's
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Speaker 1: have a look at the front page. It says that
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Speaker 1: Labour's Dan Norris suspended by party chiefs of the police
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Speaker 1: swoop on its West Country constituency homes, Stormer rocked as
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Speaker 1: MP held in rape and child abuse probe. Now the
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Speaker 1: thing is that front page goes to Labour's Dan Norris,
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Speaker 1: but nothing about Dolphin Square child abuse, which I understand
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Speaker 1: is stalled at the moment in the Daily Mail editorial queue.
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Speaker 1: But thankfully smaller outlets that do exist have been doing
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Speaker 1: some good work in the background. And although we have
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Speaker 1: known about this for a while, it's only been now
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Speaker 1: that it was appropriate for us to point you to
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Speaker 1: your local Guardian And there is an address there on
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Speaker 1: the on screen image so you can find it. Where
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Speaker 1: the headline was, what do we know for sure about
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Speaker 1: the Elm guesthouse scandal? Now, this was a guesthouse where
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Speaker 1: men were going not only for homosexual sex, but children
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Speaker 1: were involved and in the mix a lot of people
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Speaker 1: involved with the police and indeed the security services. But
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Speaker 1: this local reporter, Charles Thompson, has produced an absolute fantastic
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Speaker 1: article and I'm going to encourage people to go and
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Speaker 1: see it. But it includes some excerpts from documents. He
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Speaker 1: is the Met Police total policing, and it's talking about
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Speaker 1: the way people were behaving in this particular accommodation. They
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Speaker 1: were watching homosexual pornographic videos and it gets very mucky
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Speaker 1: indeed in some of these. So I'm not going to
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Speaker 1: go into huge detail in today's news except to say
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Speaker 1: go and read the detail, because this is about the
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Speaker 1: sexual abuse of principally young boys. But my point is
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Speaker 1: that whilst the Mail on Sunday is printing a front
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Speaker 1: page about Dan md noris MP in the role of
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Speaker 1: the state and the Metropolitan Police and indeed an MI
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Speaker 1: five agent in respect of Elm Guesthouse and the subsequent
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Speaker 1: cover up that goes unreported. Now there was a second
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Speaker 1: report by this same man, Charles Thompson. He says that
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Speaker 1: the IOPC won't publish the Elm Guesthouse police officer statements.
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Speaker 1: So it's well known now that there are a lot
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Speaker 1: of statements by police that have not been brought forward
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Speaker 1: and put in front of the public. Why not because
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Speaker 1: there's a very big cover up by the one of
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Speaker 1: the police watchdogs. So if we have a look at
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Speaker 1: some comment from the article, it says a police watchdog
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Speaker 1: has refused to release documents about a pedofile ring investigation,
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Speaker 1: despite publicly relying on them to dismiss serious corruption allegations,
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Speaker 1: and that's corruption in the police. The Independent Office for
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Speaker 1: Police Conduct has suppressed witness statements gathered in its reinvestoration
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Speaker 1: of the notorious Elm Guesthouse, a Richmond brothel that's a
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Speaker 1: homosexual brothel where a national inquiry ruled in twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: that child sexual abuse took place. So if we have
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Speaker 1: a look at this organization, of course there they've got
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Speaker 1: a glowing website about how good they are. Were the
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Speaker 1: Independent Office for Police Conduct. We are the police Complaints
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Speaker 1: watched og for England and Wales. We're not the police.
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Speaker 1: We are completely independent. Well we'll see about that in
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Speaker 1: a minute. We investigate the most serious complaints and conduct
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Speaker 1: matters involving the police, and we set the standards by
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Speaker 1: which the police should handle complaints. And of course they
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Speaker 1: like to say, as usual that their vision is that
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Speaker 1: everybody is able to have trust and confidence in the police.
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Speaker 1: But it's very clear this organization is helping the cover
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Speaker 1: up of key evidence, including key evidence from police officers,
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Speaker 1: demonstrating that children, especially very young boys, were raped and
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Speaker 1: seriously sexually abused in el guesthouse. But they don't want
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Speaker 1: this coming to the surface. Let's just have a look
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Speaker 1: at a little video clip of the IOPC digging up
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Speaker 1: itself and its role.
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Speaker 4: Following a series of scandals involving the Metropolitan Police and
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Speaker 4: criticism of a perceived lack of independence in the existing
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Speaker 4: complaints process, the Police Complaints Board was created by an
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Speaker 4: Act of Parliament in June nineteen seventy seven. The nineteen
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Speaker 4: eighty one Brixton riots and the Scarman Report on allegations
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Speaker 4: of racism in the police led to pressure to reform
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Speaker 4: the Police Complaints Board as part of the Police and
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Speaker 4: Criminal Evidence Act nineteen eighty four. The Board was replaced
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Speaker 4: by the Police Complaints Authority in April nineteen eighty five.
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Speaker 4: Following the murder of Stephen Lawrence in April nineteen ninety three,
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Speaker 4: public confidence in police was again questioned. Sir William Macpherson's
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Speaker 4: public inquiry into Stephen's murder called for the creation of
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Speaker 4: a new independent watchdog to oversee and investigate police complaints.
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Speaker 4: In addition, a study in two thousand by Liberty, the
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Speaker 4: human rights organization argued for an independent body to investigate
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Speaker 4: police complaints. This was followed by the Police Reform Act
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Speaker 4: of two thousand two, which, among other policing changes, replaced
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Speaker 4: the Police Complaints Authority with a completely independent investigatory body.
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Speaker 4: The Independent Police Complaints Commission became operational in two thousand
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Speaker 4: four and replaced the Police Complaints Authority. It had greater
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Speaker 4: powers and its own team of investigators to probe the
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Speaker 4: most serious incidents. The IPCC had doubled in size between
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Speaker 4: twenty thirteen and twenty eighteen, and structural changes were needed
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Speaker 4: to better suit a much expanded organization. In January twenty eighteen,
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Speaker 4: the IPCC became the u S Independent Office for Police Conduct.
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Speaker 4: In twenty twenty, the police complaint system was reformed to
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Speaker 4: make it simpler and more effective. The IOPC received new powers,
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Speaker 4: including the ability to investigate without a referral from a
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Speaker 4: police force. A greater emphasis was placed on taking the
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Speaker 4: learning from complaints to help improve policing practice overall.
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Speaker 1: So a mind blowing little video and of course music
22:30
Speaker 1: or a throbbing beat in the background to destroy your
22:33
Speaker 1: brain as you watch it. But let's look at some
22:35
Speaker 1: of the people involved in this pernicious so called independent organization.
22:40
Speaker 1: The person of focus in on is Rachel Watson, who
22:43
Speaker 1: was appointed Director General of the organization in April twenty
22:48
Speaker 1: twenty four, independent ben if we have a look at
22:52
Speaker 1: what they say about themselves, that Rachel has significant public
22:55
Speaker 1: service experience, having worked in the heart of government for
22:59
Speaker 1: more than twenty years. This includes a decade working at
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Speaker 1: the Home Office where she was Policing Director for five years.
23:06
Speaker 1: So somebody who has been part of the system that
23:09
Speaker 1: has failed is then brought forward to so called police,
23:13
Speaker 1: the police in their failings to date, this can't be accidental. Now,
23:18
Speaker 1: in the UK Column event on Saturday, when we were
23:22
Speaker 1: talking about the deep state and indeed the failings of
23:25
Speaker 1: the deep state, one of the points that I made
23:28
Speaker 1: to the audience was effectively that our security services keep
23:32
Speaker 1: telling us they're listening to us to keep us safe.
23:36
Speaker 1: But if we start to look at the agencies themselves
23:39
Speaker 1: and what their key people do, we learn something rather different.
23:43
Speaker 1: So this is from the Secret Intelligence Service website where
23:48
Speaker 1: they're talking about Sir Richard Moore, the seventeenth so called
23:52
Speaker 1: Sea and what he has to say is that he's
23:55
Speaker 1: there to help preserve the rules based international system. So
23:59
Speaker 1: they didn't know anything about the widespread abuse of children,
24:03
Speaker 1: including in our guesthouse, where personnel from mi I five
24:08
Speaker 1: were reported at the time as being present. They simply
24:12
Speaker 1: didn't know any of this was going on.
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Speaker 2: Now.
24:15
Speaker 1: At the time UK column reported heavily on what was
24:18
Speaker 1: going on with guesthouse, including Cyril Smith, high ranking police,
24:24
Speaker 1: a leading tycoon, a National Front member, Shinfein, royal household
24:29
Speaker 1: official and five officer pop stars and originally some of
24:34
Speaker 1: the former spies in this country. And the other thing
24:38
Speaker 1: we pointed out is that people warning about this abuse
24:42
Speaker 1: were ultimately threatened by Special Branch. So I'm going to
24:46
Speaker 1: say this is a big thing in the background and
24:49
Speaker 1: it is coming to the surface. But of course the
24:51
Speaker 1: other thing the column reported on was the cover up
24:54
Speaker 1: of this abuse by David Cameron's Conservative government. One of
24:59
Speaker 1: the things to know in this very busy diagram is NSPC,
25:03
Speaker 1: sorry n NSPCC, and that links back into the front
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Speaker 1: page of the Mail report and that labor MP read
25:14
Speaker 1: the article to understand why. But also, of course what
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Speaker 1: we're seeing here is the abuse of young children in
25:20
Speaker 1: Dolphin Square where there was also a massive cover up.
25:24
Speaker 1: But apparently, excuse me, apparently the Metropolitan Police and our
25:27
Speaker 1: security services don't know anything about it. Now, just to
25:32
Speaker 1: end the segment by a little bit of focus back
25:35
Speaker 1: on the failure of the established media. If we have
25:38
Speaker 1: a look at just one of the internal pages from
25:41
Speaker 1: that Sunday Mail, it is complete comic. We've got a
25:45
Speaker 1: mixture of a lovey story about the King, We've got
25:50
Speaker 1: crass politics being mixed with cheap films. We've got Elton
25:54
Speaker 1: John and loose women. And we've got a headline about
25:57
Speaker 1: a nervous British company called land Rover. But of course
26:02
Speaker 1: you have to read the article to understand it's not British,
26:05
Speaker 1: it's Indian. And of course this is where it takes everybody,
26:10
Speaker 1: is a double page spread where we are accused of
26:13
Speaker 1: having the problems, the mental health problems because of things
26:17
Speaker 1: we've done wrong, when in fact, what the Daily Mail
26:21
Speaker 1: is doing by printing this dross, in my opinion, is
26:25
Speaker 1: absolutely attacking people's minds. Now, Diane, welcome to Today's News.
26:30
Speaker 1: And one of the things that we'd like to stress
26:33
Speaker 1: to our audience is that, aside from the videos that
26:36
Speaker 1: go out, the news programs and the interviews, there's a
26:39
Speaker 1: huge amount of information in the articles. And today you
26:44
Speaker 1: wanted to draw people's attention to some of those articles.
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Speaker 5: Welcome, Yes, Hello Brian, Hello Ben. It's good to be
26:52
Speaker 5: here today, even though I'm still quite tired from the weekend.
26:55
Speaker 5: The first thing that I want to point out is
26:57
Speaker 5: a section on sexualization inductor of children. And I'll be
27:02
Speaker 5: going through some other articles and some other reporting that
27:04
Speaker 5: we've been doing in our written articles later in the news,
27:06
Speaker 5: but as sort of the new editor for written material
27:11
Speaker 5: on the UK column website, I do want to say
27:13
Speaker 5: there's quite a bit out there, going back years and years,
27:16
Speaker 5: well before we were even producing videos and interviews. So
27:20
Speaker 5: what I wanted to say first of all is that
27:22
Speaker 5: there has been several pieces of I guess you could say,
27:28
Speaker 5: several parts of this whole story of sexualization of children,
27:32
Speaker 5: which I've been covering for some time and will continue
27:34
Speaker 5: to do so until it goes away. And one of
27:37
Speaker 5: these that have we've put out most recently has included,
27:40
Speaker 5: for example, articles from Martin Edwards on what he calls
27:43
Speaker 5: education subjugation, particularly focusing on Wales and h McCarthy in
27:48
Speaker 5: Northern Ireland. Now, of course these all line up together
27:51
Speaker 5: because they are all following the same globalist policy which
27:54
Speaker 5: I'm going to talk about here just a minute. Hugh's
27:57
Speaker 5: three part series is called What They Didn't Want to
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Speaker 5: Hear The Continued Sexualization of Our Children. Part one of
28:03
Speaker 5: the series considered the wider issues affecting education. What is
28:07
Speaker 5: education for exactly? And what we're seeing more and more
28:10
Speaker 5: in the schools is that they're going away from teaching
28:12
Speaker 5: subjects such as geography, maths, reading and going into social
28:16
Speaker 5: emotional learning, sexualization of children that, like I said, and
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Speaker 5: all about feelings, all about relationships, all about these things
28:25
Speaker 5: that are not the things that we would think children
28:27
Speaker 5: should be learning, and how to do things and how
28:29
Speaker 5: to learn things and how to think. So that was
28:32
Speaker 5: part one. Part two considered the promotion of gender ideology,
28:35
Speaker 5: and in this one he went specifically into globalist policies,
28:39
Speaker 5: particularly from the World Health Organization. And so we're seeing
28:43
Speaker 5: from the WHO that they're telling us what children around
28:45
Speaker 5: the world must be taught. And just to quote a
28:48
Speaker 5: little bit from the article which quotes directly from the policy,
28:52
Speaker 5: is that their approach to sexuality on children is summed
28:55
Speaker 5: up by this statement, which is then the policy documents,
28:58
Speaker 5: a child is understood to be a sexual being from
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Speaker 5: the beginning the guidance that's given for children ages six
29:05
Speaker 5: to nine recommends our curriculum content which includes sexual intercourse,
29:09
Speaker 5: gender orientation, sexual behavior of young people, enjoyment and pleasure
29:13
Speaker 5: when touching it own's body, including masturbation or orgasm. For
29:17
Speaker 5: ages nine to twelve, the content includes again pleasure of masturbation, orgasm,
29:21
Speaker 5: how to enjoy sexuality in appropriate way their first sexual experience.
29:26
Speaker 5: So for ages nine to twelve. Part three summarizes parental rights,
29:31
Speaker 5: and in nord Dan in particular, they're a bit fortunate
29:34
Speaker 5: because it's in their law within their developed nation that
29:37
Speaker 5: parents have the right to say what doesn't does not
29:40
Speaker 5: go into the curriculum. We don't have that right explicitly
29:44
Speaker 5: in the other three developed nations in the UK. And
29:47
Speaker 5: he asked a question in this article that parents frequently ask,
29:50
Speaker 5: which is how did we get to this point in
29:51
Speaker 5: the first place. And I would argue that it goes
29:54
Speaker 5: back to again that right now, the globalist policy that
29:56
Speaker 5: they're saying all over the world, we should be doing
29:58
Speaker 5: this to think about I want to go a little
30:01
Speaker 5: bit deeper into what he covered in Part three, which
30:04
Speaker 5: is kind of the background to what we call gender
30:07
Speaker 5: affirming care or as I some people I've seen say
30:10
Speaker 5: even more directly genital affirming care rather than gender And
30:15
Speaker 5: if we go back to a professor Caltiela, she is
30:17
Speaker 5: an adolescent psychiatrist at Temperi University in Finland, and she
30:23
Speaker 5: talked about how she went back on her previous work
30:26
Speaker 5: where she came up with was part of the group
30:29
Speaker 5: that came across this protocol, which is called the Dutch
30:32
Speaker 5: Protocol for Gender Affirming Care for Young People. So what
30:36
Speaker 5: she said in just a couple of years ago, she
30:39
Speaker 5: said that she knows now gender refirming care is dangerous.
30:42
Speaker 5: I know because I helped pioneer it my country and
30:45
Speaker 5: others found that there's no solid evidence supporting the medical
30:48
Speaker 5: transitioning of young people. And this of course goes along
30:51
Speaker 5: with the cast review in the UK, which came directly
30:55
Speaker 5: as a commissioned report from the NHS in England, and
30:58
Speaker 5: a lot of people are still saying it's transphobic and
31:01
Speaker 5: so on. But what's happening is that what he points
31:04
Speaker 5: out is that the previous work is now dated, that
31:08
Speaker 5: it's based on research that is out of date, its flawed,
31:11
Speaker 5: has problems, and countries around the world and clinicians and
31:15
Speaker 5: so on. And the parents who are letting their children
31:18
Speaker 5: mutilate their bodies before they even turn sixteen or eighteen
31:21
Speaker 5: years old is based on research that is no longer
31:24
Speaker 5: in date. It goes back to you, for example, the
31:27
Speaker 5: twenty eleven paper which was in the Child and Adolescent
31:30
Speaker 5: Psychiatric Clinics of North America Journal, and this goes into
31:34
Speaker 5: this Dutch protocol saying that in the Netherlands, gender dysphoric
31:37
Speaker 5: adolescence maybe eligible for puberty suppression at age twelve, hormone
31:41
Speaker 5: treatment at age sixteen, process hormone treatment, and gender reassignment
31:44
Speaker 5: surgery at eighteen. And it goes through the various steps
31:47
Speaker 5: from the psychological interventions all the way up to the
31:51
Speaker 5: medical mutilation. Do you want to say that of children's
31:55
Speaker 5: bodies and how these steps go through? And that was
31:58
Speaker 5: back in twenty eleven, But now in April twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 5: I went back and found in the Journal of Child
32:04
Speaker 5: and Adolescent Psychiatry that they have said that the European
32:09
Speaker 5: Child Adolescent Psychiatry Association, this society says now that they
32:15
Speaker 5: are calling for healthcare providers not to promote experimental and
32:19
Speaker 5: unnecessarily invasive treatments with unproven psychosocial effects, and therefore so
32:23
Speaker 5: we adhere to the first do no harm principle. Finally,
32:28
Speaker 5: this organization insists that respect for all kinds of different
32:30
Speaker 5: views and attitudes is an essential part of an ongoing
32:34
Speaker 5: open professional debate that we wish to stimulate. So we're
32:39
Speaker 5: seeing again that even though the globalist policy says, well
32:41
Speaker 5: that you know, this Dutch protocol from twenty eleven is
32:43
Speaker 5: what we are looking at, but now in twenty twenty
32:45
Speaker 5: four and even more recently, this is continuing to be
32:49
Speaker 5: the case that the people are saying, this is not
32:51
Speaker 5: what we should be doing because we don't know the
32:53
Speaker 5: harm that we are doing to young people, which of
32:56
Speaker 5: course we are. And just a little bit more on
32:59
Speaker 5: f W. It's toward in doctrination the Scott's Union for Education,
33:04
Speaker 5: which people will know. I'm a member of the editorial
33:06
Speaker 5: board for that, where we're doing work against education indoctrination,
33:10
Speaker 5: which is the theme of the logo of that we
33:13
Speaker 5: follow in. Sue Kate Deeming, who is the coordinator of
33:16
Speaker 5: the Parents Group, she wrote an article that about the
33:21
Speaker 5: Burial Collection, which is a museum based in Glasgow and
33:25
Speaker 5: she visited it and talked about some of the lgbt
33:29
Speaker 5: doctrination and so on that is present currently in the
33:32
Speaker 5: artifacts and the description of the artifacts. And there's a
33:34
Speaker 5: whole report about this that you can read. A leak
33:37
Speaker 5: to this will be in the show notes. And two
33:39
Speaker 5: examples that she used in her article, for example, was
33:41
Speaker 5: the figure of Guangyen and that description says, quote Kwan
33:45
Speaker 5: Yin has always represented the basic human values of capassion
33:48
Speaker 5: and kindness. Trans people deserve respect and understanding trans rights
33:52
Speaker 5: or human rights being more Gwangyen. And the other one
33:55
Speaker 5: who's a dish showing the barterer of Dombas State Sebastian
33:57
Speaker 5: from fifteen hundred to sixteen hundred. Initially a religious figure,
34:01
Speaker 5: Saint Sebastian came to be seen as a gay icon
34:04
Speaker 5: as LGBT age. I don't know what that is. Members
34:07
Speaker 5: we've looked at why this might be. The eras fired
34:10
Speaker 5: into his body are like words that can still prick
34:13
Speaker 5: us as lgbtqi plus individuals. In art and film, Saint
34:16
Speaker 5: Sebastian has often shown as a beautiful young man appealing
34:20
Speaker 5: to gay culture. LGBTQI plus experiences are very diverse. It
34:24
Speaker 5: was your icon and as a result of a conversation
34:28
Speaker 5: that I had over the weekend with a UK column
34:30
Speaker 5: member Dan Cheltenham, I was reminded I actually learned for
34:34
Speaker 5: the first time. I guess I should say, because it's
34:36
Speaker 5: been years since I've read Brave New World and I
34:37
Speaker 5: didn't remember this. A Brave New World by Alvis Huxley
34:41
Speaker 5: was originally published in nineteen thirty two, written in nineteen
34:44
Speaker 5: thirty one, and there's a portion of this book in
34:47
Speaker 5: the first few pages as a conversation between some children.
34:51
Speaker 5: In the book, it was between the director of HATCHERIESA
34:54
Speaker 5: and conditioning and some children, and the director said, what
34:57
Speaker 5: I'm going to tell you now, he said, may sound proud,
35:00
Speaker 5: but then when you're not accustomed to history, most facts
35:02
Speaker 5: about the past do sound incredible. He let out the
35:06
Speaker 5: amazing truth. For a very long period of before the
35:08
Speaker 5: time of our ford, and even for some generations afterwards,
35:12
Speaker 5: erotic play between children had been regarded as abnormal. There
35:16
Speaker 5: was a roar of laughter, and not only abnormal, actually
35:19
Speaker 5: immoral no, and had therefore been rigorously suppressed. A look
35:24
Speaker 5: of astonished incredulity appeared on the faces of his listeners.
35:27
Speaker 5: Poor little kids not allowed to amuse themselves. They could
35:30
Speaker 5: not believe it. Even adolescens. The DHD was saying, even
35:34
Speaker 5: adolescents like yourselves, not possible. Barring a little surreptitious auto
35:39
Speaker 5: or autism and homosexuality. Absolutely nothing, nothing in most cases,
35:44
Speaker 5: till they were over twenty years old. Twenty years old,
35:47
Speaker 5: echoed the students in a course of loud disbelief. Twenty
35:50
Speaker 5: the director repeated, I told you that you'd find it incredible.
35:53
Speaker 5: But what happened? They asked, what were the results? The
35:56
Speaker 5: results were terrible. So back in nineteen thirty one, as
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Speaker 5: Haartzums writing that it would be terrible for people to
36:02
Speaker 5: wait until they were twenty years older as well to
36:04
Speaker 5: start engaging in sexual activity. And I guess that's kind
36:07
Speaker 5: of what we're seeing playing out now. But when we
36:09
Speaker 5: trace back the history, we see that this is not
36:11
Speaker 5: a new agenda, and I want to suggest that perhaps
36:14
Speaker 5: this is something that they've been thinking about for a
36:16
Speaker 5: long time.
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Speaker 1: Brian, Diane, thank you very much for that, And I
36:20
Speaker 1: think that's a very astute statement. There's lots of clues
36:22
Speaker 1: if we go back in time, but we're in the
36:25
Speaker 1: age we are, and we have to fight the battle
36:28
Speaker 1: in the time twenty twenty five. At the moment, we
36:31
Speaker 1: have to fight the battle today, but we can only
36:33
Speaker 1: fight that battle if we understand what's actually being done.
36:38
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37:36
Speaker 1: that's it. So that's Tuesday, the eighth of April at
37:40
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37:43
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37:49
Speaker 1: so there's a lot to this and if you need
37:52
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37:56
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37:59
Speaker 1: Now we're delight to be able to say that today
38:02
Speaker 1: we have a little report from our weekend conference the
38:06
Speaker 1: Deep State that took place in Cheltenham. It was a
38:09
Speaker 1: fantastic day. We enjoyed it. Everybody who spoke to us
38:13
Speaker 1: said they enjoyed it and my goodness, some fantastic speakers.
38:17
Speaker 1: Let's have a look at this video report. Thanks to
38:21
Speaker 1: Gemma Cooper and the media team that were with us.
38:28
Speaker 6: From the moment the doors opened, the atmosphere was buzzing.
38:32
Speaker 6: More than three hundred people had traveled to Cheltenham to
38:34
Speaker 6: hear UK columns take on the Deep State. Someone even
38:38
Speaker 6: traveled as far as Australia and the United States to
38:41
Speaker 6: hear what our speakers had to say. Delegates enjoyed tea, coffee,
38:45
Speaker 6: snacks and socializing before settling into their seats for a
38:49
Speaker 6: day of mind blowing information. Our speakers didn't disappoint. It
38:54
Speaker 6: was one truth bomber after another first up was activist
38:57
Speaker 6: and campaigner Rajamir, picked off with an explosive expose about
39:02
Speaker 6: institutionalized corruption. He got a standing ovation. Raja was followed
39:13
Speaker 6: by UK Column's very own editor and co founder, Brian Gerrish.
39:17
Speaker 6: He revealed information he's never told anyone before until now.
39:21
Speaker 1: This is sedition, this is treason. We were told what
39:26
Speaker 1: were the security services doing? Where were they? I think
39:30
Speaker 1: they were complicit with the deep state?
39:32
Speaker 6: Firmly in focus, delegates were treated to their very own
39:35
Speaker 6: UK Column donut in the break, a nod to the
39:38
Speaker 6: odd shaped building just up the road which houses the
39:41
Speaker 6: British Security and Intelligence Agency GCHQ. Were they listening in today?
39:47
Speaker 6: What do you think? The Brakes also gave an opportunity
39:51
Speaker 6: to buy books and merchandise from specially invited guests, and
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Speaker 6: perhaps most importantly of all, the chance to talk to
39:58
Speaker 6: fellow audience members and four new fanships. But soon it
40:03
Speaker 6: was back to the action, with Alex Thompson talking about
40:06
Speaker 6: his time at GHQ and giving his insights about the
40:10
Speaker 6: British establishment. Then lunch a chance to chew over the
40:14
Speaker 6: morning's content and reflect, what do you think of the
40:17
Speaker 6: events so far today.
40:18
Speaker 7: I'm really enjoying it. Yeah, very insightful. Particularly Raja this morning,
40:23
Speaker 7: really really enjoyed that. Quite harrowing. Actually I enjoy it's
40:27
Speaker 7: not quite enjoyed, but you know what I mean. Yeah,
40:30
Speaker 7: I think it's been exceptionally well organized. Look forward to
40:34
Speaker 7: the next one.
40:35
Speaker 8: Wonderful day. Sun is shining and everyone chatting, and I think,
40:39
Speaker 8: you know, I noticed that at Bristol where we didn't
40:43
Speaker 8: have access to outdoor space, but here, you know, that
40:46
Speaker 8: adds a certain expansiveness to discussion. And yeah, I mean,
40:50
Speaker 8: how wonderful it is just to be surrounded by people
40:53
Speaker 8: with whom one can turn effortlessly and say a joke
40:57
Speaker 8: or make a reference, you know, and not check yourself,
41:00
Speaker 8: not second guess you're interlarket or that kind of thing.
41:03
Speaker 8: There is a real ease on that. And I think
41:04
Speaker 8: we only discover this when we come here.
41:06
Speaker 9: Right, we could see the sky cup when there's no chemtrails.
41:08
Speaker 9: It's quite nice. But yeah, it's brilliant. It's just it's
41:11
Speaker 9: worth every penny. Look at the people, you know, it's
41:14
Speaker 9: just a bunch of wonderful misfits of madam uncles and
41:17
Speaker 9: aunts and fathers and whatever. Else and sitting mothers and
41:20
Speaker 9: it's just joy, absolute joy.
41:24
Speaker 6: After lunch, a UK Column panel discussion with questions from
41:28
Speaker 6: the audience, then a much anticipated presentation from Patrick henningson
41:33
Speaker 6: a recent return to UK Column's Friday afternoon news show.
41:37
Speaker 6: After a stint away, he went down a storm. The
41:41
Speaker 6: final speaker of the day was GHQ whistleblower Catherine Gunn.
41:46
Speaker 6: She too had the audience on their feet. It was
41:49
Speaker 6: an extraordinary presentation running off an extraordinary day. But it
41:54
Speaker 6: wasn't over yet. Ticket Holders joined the UK Column team
41:58
Speaker 6: and our speakers for an evening buffet, social and some music,
42:02
Speaker 6: a chance to relax with like minded people.
42:05
Speaker 7: These sorts of events are massively important to bring people together.
42:10
Speaker 5: For me, that's what it's all about is finding people.
42:13
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's been lovely today. I've really enjoyed it.
42:15
Speaker 10: The unanimity you get when people get together, which you
42:18
Speaker 10: can't get on a screen. It's just so important and
42:20
Speaker 10: it's what I think mostly the big dogs fear, because
42:24
Speaker 10: when we're together and working together and thinking together, we're
42:27
Speaker 10: much more dangerous than if we're behind screens and just
42:30
Speaker 10: a number of followers behind. Somebody's bringing across a message,
42:34
Speaker 10: So it's hugely important.
42:35
Speaker 11: It's spiritually good for us all, I think, and it
42:39
Speaker 11: makes you think that you're not alone and that maybe
42:41
Speaker 11: that we can we can find some of this madness.
42:44
Speaker 11: This's stone at us. If we all stick together, the
42:46
Speaker 11: presenters and the interviewees. The interviewers, they'll do a fantastic
42:51
Speaker 11: job and you can just talk to them like they're
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Speaker 13: The raw honesty and clarity that they provide I think
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Speaker 3: Your K column saved my life. And b it's important
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43:51
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43:53
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44:13
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Speaker 6: The event was so successful plans are now underway for
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Speaker 1: Well, there we are. A wonderful event and of course
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44:36
Speaker 1: stay with us because you'll have the opportunity in the future. Now,
44:39
Speaker 1: i'd also say that if you didn't see a Saturday's
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44:48
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44:55
Speaker 1: But the next best thing to have a look at
44:57
Speaker 1: that live event. Let's bring you back with us because
45:02
Speaker 1: you've got more to say about material that's been up
45:05
Speaker 1: on the UK Column and the good work of our
45:08
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Speaker 5: Yes, thanks Brian, that was a wonderful video too. Kind
45:16
Speaker 5: of overwhelmed by other compliments that we just received in
45:18
Speaker 5: that video. I've just seen it for the first time.
45:20
Speaker 5: That was amazing. But I also want to make sure
45:23
Speaker 5: that again because I'm working with so many wonderful authors
45:26
Speaker 5: that have given us a lot of written content for
45:29
Speaker 5: our website as well, to make sure that all of
45:31
Speaker 5: these are highlighted, and also because I have some additional
45:33
Speaker 5: information to add for another article that was published recently.
45:38
Speaker 5: Because it's a real pleasure for me as the editor
45:41
Speaker 5: to be working with our authors when there are topics
45:43
Speaker 5: that I know about and can maybe make suggestions, although
45:46
Speaker 5: of course we're completely free speech platform when it comes
45:49
Speaker 5: to their work, but I do want to mention just
45:51
Speaker 5: as well, since I've taken over in February that we
45:53
Speaker 5: have published several written articles that you can find if
45:56
Speaker 5: you search the UK Column website, and we'll provide some
45:59
Speaker 5: links as well in the show notes. In these range
46:01
Speaker 5: all the way from Replacement Migration, written by Simon Elmber,
46:06
Speaker 5: which is actually a republication of part of his own
46:09
Speaker 5: book that he published before this was in the K
46:12
Speaker 5: Column website. We have an article from Mark Anderson about Guernsey,
46:16
Speaker 5: the tiny island that beat the big bankers for twenty
46:19
Speaker 5: years of monetary freedom. We have articles from Charles Mallett
46:22
Speaker 5: including farmers protests the wrong target in an earlier one,
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Speaker 5: another article called COVID vaccines and New Mechanisms of serious
46:30
Speaker 5: Pathology by doctor Mike Williams. An article about Mark Karney,
46:34
Speaker 5: who's the new technocratic globalist Prime Minister of Canada. Post
46:39
Speaker 5: Democracy in Germany about the constitutional crisis happening in Germany.
46:42
Speaker 5: That's by Yop's Landgreba. We have an article another article
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Speaker 5: Charles called the Church of England in the Room with
46:48
Speaker 5: Big Tech. And the one that as just from a
46:52
Speaker 5: couple of days ago, the evolution of the serial chemical
46:54
Speaker 5: weapons narrative on the Road de Gauta. That's part two
46:57
Speaker 5: of a Chemical Weapons as a Narrative of series by
47:01
Speaker 5: doctor Pierce Robinson. And finally, the one that I want
47:04
Speaker 5: to focus on is one by Martin Edwards called the
47:07
Speaker 5: Great Transition and in Geo Alliance is triding a course
47:09
Speaker 5: towards the rocks of zero. And the reason I want
47:12
Speaker 5: to talk about this one is because there is a
47:14
Speaker 5: lot of information in this article, but there is also
47:17
Speaker 5: some information that I want to provide that kind of
47:20
Speaker 5: contextualizes what he's done with it and where it can
47:24
Speaker 5: potentially go. The further you dig deeper. And this is
47:27
Speaker 5: what I think we're so good at a UK column,
47:29
Speaker 5: not just me obviously, but all of us, that we
47:31
Speaker 5: go deeper than the typical media, and even articles and
47:36
Speaker 5: videos that sometimes viewers send to us from other non
47:39
Speaker 5: mainstream sources, even if they are alternative or independent sources.
47:42
Speaker 5: I would have to say that a lot of them
47:45
Speaker 5: I personally wouldn't use in my own reporting because they
47:47
Speaker 5: don't go that far into the depths that we go
47:50
Speaker 5: into you to kind of figure out where things actually
47:52
Speaker 5: come from, and to look at the original sources as well,
47:56
Speaker 5: so actually looking at policy documents so we are able
47:59
Speaker 5: to stay from all of these sensationalism and all of
48:02
Speaker 5: the Oh look at this. This is really scary and
48:04
Speaker 5: exciting because we're going to actual sources and no one
48:08
Speaker 5: can dispute us, even if they try to. So. In
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Speaker 5: this article by Martin Edwards, he talks about the Planetary
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Speaker 5: Health Alliance as an organization which is quote a consortium
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Speaker 5: of over four hundred and eighty universities, non governmental organizations,
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Speaker 5: research institutes, and government entities from eighty plus countries around
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Speaker 5: the world. And I'm just going to read a little
48:26
Speaker 5: a couple of bits from this article so that you
48:28
Speaker 5: can see where I'm going to with this. Its origins
48:30
Speaker 5: can be traced to twenty fifteen when the Rockefeller Foundation
48:35
Speaker 5: and Lancet Commission, which is the Lancet which is a
48:38
Speaker 5: medical journal working with the Rockefeller Foundation on planetary health,
48:42
Speaker 5: published their report called Safeguarding Human Health in the Anthroposcene
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Speaker 5: Epic in the Lancet Journal. It defines anthroposcene. If you
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Speaker 5: don't know this word already. If you do know it,
48:52
Speaker 5: that's great. If you don't, you need to catch up
48:54
Speaker 5: on your globalist terminology. It is a proposed name for
48:57
Speaker 5: a new geological epic demarketed as time when human activities
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Speaker 5: began to have a substantial global effect on the Earth's systems.
49:05
Speaker 5: In the executive summary of this report, the authors talk
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Speaker 5: about the Sustainable Development Goals and they say that reasons
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Speaker 5: for hope include the advent of the SDGs and the
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Speaker 5: post twenty to fifteen Development Agenda, which provide an important
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Speaker 5: opportunity to address these trends. And to tackle health social
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Speaker 5: environmental challenges in integrated ways. The part that's really interesting
49:27
Speaker 5: in what really got me going as not just an editor,
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Speaker 5: but as a reporter. It discusses four alternative scenarios of
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Speaker 5: future development that exemplify alternative worlds that might emerge from
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Speaker 5: the present. The first two scenarios represent an evolution of
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Speaker 5: conventional worldviews. For example, market forces exemplifies market centered growths
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Speaker 5: or oriented globalization, whereas Policy Reform tells of a government
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Speaker 5: led redirection of growth towards sustainability goals. It says that
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Speaker 5: the alternative scenarios presented in the report envisioned a full
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Speaker 5: fundamental restructure of the global order, authoritarianism and fragmentation and
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Speaker 5: fortress world and positive transformation in the Great Transition, in
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Speaker 5: which material consumption is reduced but is more equitable than
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Speaker 5: the present. At another report, which is shorter, that talks
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Speaker 5: about this Great Transition scenario, the future scenario the Great
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Speaker 5: Transition can be found at a report from October twenty
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Speaker 5: twenty one from the Planetary Health Meeting. They met in
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Speaker 5: cell Pallo and while the rest of us were locked
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Speaker 5: up under COVID restrictions, they decided to go to sell
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Speaker 5: Paalo and talk about the planet, and they said at
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Speaker 5: that time they called this fundamental shift and how we
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Speaker 5: live in Earth the Great Transition. Achieving this will require
50:39
Speaker 5: rapid and deep structural changes across most dimensions of human activity,
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Speaker 5: including how we produce and consume food, energy, manufactured goods,
50:50
Speaker 5: how we construct and live in our cities, and how
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Speaker 5: we consider and measure growth, progress and development and govern ourselves.
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Speaker 5: It will take practitioner, scholars, and policy makers across every
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Speaker 5: dimension of human activity working together. Now, the reason that
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Speaker 5: was interesting was because they concluded their report talking about
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Speaker 5: how else it's going to help us achieve the Great Transition.
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Speaker 5: And when I saw that, I remember the report that
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Speaker 5: I did back in September twenty twenty four about the
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Speaker 5: United Nations Summit of the Future, and working backwards from
51:19
Speaker 5: the Summit of the Future which happened last year, or
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Speaker 5: in the last several months, that I went back to
51:25
Speaker 5: a globalist, a little known globalist, but a very influential
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Speaker 5: one called doctor Paul Raskin from Yale University, and he
51:32
Speaker 5: was actually a member of the Club of Rome in
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Speaker 5: the past, and we just found that out recently. I
51:37
Speaker 5: want to go back and play a couple of clips
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Speaker 5: to show where this came from, because the reports that
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Speaker 5: were highlighted in Martin's report didn't really mention Paul Raskin,
51:46
Speaker 5: but he's the one in his organization called the Tellis Institute,
51:49
Speaker 5: was the one that did this. So my question is
51:51
Speaker 5: are the globalists plagiarizing each other? Essentially? But let's play
51:54
Speaker 5: my clip that I showed back in September on the
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Speaker 5: news first, please.
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Speaker 14: And we discuss scenarios. We talk about three broad channels
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Speaker 14: radiating out into the future. One we call conventional worlds,
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Speaker 14: basically an evolutionary sequence of events, despite hiccups like the
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Speaker 14: current meltdown, that the basic paradigm and values persist into
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Speaker 14: the future. The second channels barbarization, which markets and policies
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Speaker 14: are unable to cope with the crises, the chaos, and
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Speaker 14: the social disruption and the environmental deterioration that is induced
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Speaker 14: by conventional worlds, and you have futures of catastrophic disruption.
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Speaker 14: And the third we call great transitions, where people rise
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Speaker 14: to the possibilities, to the promise of this planetary phase
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Speaker 14: with new values and new institutions and steer and development
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Speaker 14: steers towards a more fortunate form of civilization.
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Speaker 5: So he wrote a book in twenty of the Tellis Institute.
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Speaker 5: I guess really wrote a book that was published in
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Speaker 5: twenty sixteen called Journey to Earthland in which he further
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Speaker 5: sort of developed these ideas about the Great Transition. And
53:13
Speaker 5: what he says is that global consciousness, cultural experimentation, popular
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Speaker 5: struggles for peace, justice and sustainability urge a great transition
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Speaker 5: which tendency will dominate. So we have these different scenarios
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Speaker 5: that we can choose from. And he said that the
53:26
Speaker 5: Great Transition after period of gestation could rapidly unfold in
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Speaker 5: a whirlwind of change as dominant norms lose their sway
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Speaker 5: and system elements and structures began to crack. The revolutionary
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Speaker 5: moment will have survived if well prepared oppiditional and visionary
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Speaker 5: movements can influence the anatomy of the kind of Earthland
53:44
Speaker 5: that emerges from the tumult. So let's play this next clip,
53:47
Speaker 5: which is from the same original video we've tried to
53:50
Speaker 5: have a plate on the news previously, which shows exactly
53:53
Speaker 5: what kind of Earth a Doctor of Askin envisions for us.
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Speaker 14: Because humanity has found a way to balance the imperatives
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Speaker 14: of global responsibility with diversity and pluralism in modes of
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Speaker 14: culture and development. When we take our trips to outer
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Speaker 14: space and we look back, we see an integral blue planet.
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Speaker 14: We don't see imaginary lines of states. And so that
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Speaker 14: this globalism, the sense of the Earth as a natural
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Speaker 14: unit for a human organization and identity, in some ways
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Speaker 14: more profound than are the imaginary boundaries of nation states.
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Speaker 5: So he says in this book as well going on,
54:52
Speaker 5: that the choices we make, the actions we take now
54:55
Speaker 5: before catastrophes erupt, old institutions crumble and new and solidify
54:59
Speaker 5: our decisive for keeping progressive options open. This news may
55:03
Speaker 5: be dishearten, to mean comforting or inspiring, but cannot be ignored,
55:06
Speaker 5: for that too would be a choice. So, Brian, I
55:09
Speaker 5: just want to say that you know, what we're hearing here,
55:12
Speaker 5: and what we can see in these reports is that
55:15
Speaker 5: Paul's actually talking about what the globalists want is to do.
55:17
Speaker 5: What to do with this agenda. We talk about this
55:20
Speaker 5: constantly on the news, which is their ultimate goal, which
55:22
Speaker 5: is to destroy the nation state and have Earth be
55:25
Speaker 5: a big sort of blue and green blob of existence.
55:29
Speaker 5: We've talked about this frequently a UK com will continue
55:32
Speaker 5: to do so. But my point here is that if
55:34
Speaker 5: people want to go deeper into what we report on,
55:37
Speaker 5: a lot of this will be available in the written articles,
55:39
Speaker 5: which we simply just don't have time to do when
55:41
Speaker 5: we publish videos and news broadcasts for three hours a week.
55:45
Speaker 5: But if you want more depth, you can always go
55:47
Speaker 5: into this amazing archive that we have of written reports.
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Speaker 1: Joanne, thank you very much for that excellent point. Huge
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Speaker 1: amount of material on the UK column website and we
55:58
Speaker 1: use it ourselves and archive very often. When we are
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Speaker 1: reporting today, we go and look at what we were
56:05
Speaker 1: saying ten fifteen years ago. Ben, Just to end off
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Speaker 1: today's news, everything is about utopia in the future Mission
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 2: Indeed, utopia in the future the grand transition, the just
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Speaker 2: and sustainable transition from one economic model to a new one.
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Speaker 2: The political process that will facilitate it exactly is described
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Speaker 2: there by Diane. Thank you for that report. But I
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Speaker 2: think they might be in trouble and let's start off
56:32
Speaker 2: by looking at what they're up to with Mission twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty five.
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Speaker 15: The UN Climate Conference COP twenty nine is taking place
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Speaker 15: this week in Azerbaijan. It's a chance for international cooperation
56:44
Speaker 15: and to bridge the gap between world leaders and the
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Speaker 15: private sector. I've been around London to hear from British
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Speaker 15: businesses and experts to get their views on how we
56:53
Speaker 15: can work together for the just, clean and prosperous transition.
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Speaker 16: The good news is we are a global economy in
57:00
Speaker 16: a state transition. There's a huge appetite for investment in
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Speaker 16: the next industry revolution.
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Speaker 6: Business is absolutely at the arrowhead.
57:09
Speaker 5: They are the innovators.
57:10
Speaker 6: They're going to make the change happen, and they need
57:12
Speaker 6: support from the ecosystem.
57:14
Speaker 4: When it comes to climate change, adaptation and resilience. Institutional
57:18
Speaker 4: asset honors are really keen to play their part.
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Speaker 16: Businesses understand the barriers, so listening seriously to them while
57:23
Speaker 16: our policy makers to steer towards met zero future.
57:27
Speaker 15: Most businesses are ready to run, but now they need
57:29
Speaker 15: governments to create supportive policy landscapes to help them act decisively.
57:34
Speaker 16: Climate change is still the world's fingers market failure. It
57:39
Speaker 16: runs the risk of destabilizing the international geoglyphical world order
57:44
Speaker 16: as well as financial markets.
57:45
Speaker 15: We're already going in the right direction, but now it's
57:48
Speaker 15: a question of how we move at the pace and
57:50
Speaker 15: scale client wind and solar arising to new highs. Industrial
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Speaker 15: transformation is picking up pace.
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Speaker 5: We're storing nature and.
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Speaker 15: Transforming our food systems. It's both possible and increasingly profitable.
58:06
Speaker 15: Leaders are stepping up and speaking up, but we still
58:10
Speaker 15: need to move faster and leave no one behind.
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Speaker 1: Lovely music always.
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Speaker 2: But it's money and power, power, money, money. They're super
58:25
Speaker 2: keen to invest in the next industrial revolution. This is
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Speaker 2: a multi trillion global marketplace. The City of London's lined
58:33
Speaker 2: up behind it and they want power the policymakers to
58:36
Speaker 2: enable this program. That's what's happening internationally, and as I said,
58:42
Speaker 2: I think they're in trouble. I'll come on to that
58:44
Speaker 2: in a minute. First thing is to note who's actually
58:46
Speaker 2: leading this. So this lady in the center there, that's
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Speaker 2: Christiana Figetes. She is involved in something called global Optimism
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Speaker 2: and she's one of the main voices in the climate movement,
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Speaker 2: involved with the World Bank and the UN and recently
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Speaker 2: was the Palace we can see here to receive a dbe.
59:10
Speaker 2: She's a dame now right, So this is as ever
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Speaker 2: linked very closely into the British establishment. You can get
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Speaker 2: a bit more background on her, and I recommend that
59:20
Speaker 2: you do by going to look at this article. So
59:23
Speaker 2: this is who exactly is Christiana Figeties. This is on
59:26
Speaker 2: the Winter Oat website. Will provide a link to it.
59:29
Speaker 2: And she's leading this out on behalf of these people.
59:33
Speaker 2: All right. This is the partner list on the Mission
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Speaker 2: twenty five website. And we can see in here some
59:38
Speaker 2: familiar names. You've got C forty cities, so we've got
59:41
Speaker 2: Sudik Kahn in there. We've got the Bezos Earth Fund,
59:47
Speaker 2: We've got E three G based in London, which is
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Speaker 2: like the global harbor of all the new blueprints for
59:53
Speaker 2: the transition and new economy. They want us to move
59:56
Speaker 2: towards IKEA a bunch of corporate money, and we can
1:00:01
Speaker 2: see planetary Guardians as Paul Pullman and the B team
1:00:04
Speaker 2: and then the Club of Rome pop up right. So
1:00:08
Speaker 2: this is exactly what Paul Raskin was talking about earlier.
1:00:12
Speaker 2: And this is the actual mechanics of how this marketplace
1:00:16
Speaker 2: is delivering this transition. So they're driving this thing forward.
1:00:20
Speaker 1: And this is the partnership that you're constantly talking about.
1:00:24
Speaker 2: Ben.
1:00:24
Speaker 1: I'll just say, caught my eye at the bottom of
1:00:27
Speaker 1: the screen as it was scrolling up there. But you've
1:00:29
Speaker 1: got Unilever next to the University of Exeter. Obviously that's
1:00:34
Speaker 1: that's just a coincidence that they're there. But university's next
1:00:38
Speaker 1: to global big business. Nothing to worry about apparently.
1:00:42
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not and systemic. Also who in the mix now?
1:00:45
Speaker 2: They just they issued that film was put out at
1:00:49
Speaker 2: cop back in November. They just issued this back in January.
1:00:53
Speaker 2: This is the global mutted out and mutted out is
1:00:56
Speaker 2: a Brazilian term which is a community coming together to
1:00:59
Speaker 2: work on the shared task. And this is just a
1:01:02
Speaker 2: really neat piece of communication that I think sums up
1:01:05
Speaker 2: what they're doing, but also where they're at. And there's
1:01:08
Speaker 2: some hope in here for me. So they're saying that
1:01:11
Speaker 2: the darkest hour comes before dawn. A new economy is rising.
1:01:16
Speaker 2: But we are at the center of this new economy,
1:01:19
Speaker 2: our needs, aspirations and potential. When they say we, they
1:01:23
Speaker 2: mean them. Yeah, it's not us. This is the partner
1:01:27
Speaker 2: list that we just looked at. If you read what
1:01:29
Speaker 2: these people put out every now and again, they betray
1:01:31
Speaker 2: exactly what they're up to. We're at the center of
1:01:34
Speaker 2: this new economy. That's what they're saying. Yeah, and the
1:01:37
Speaker 2: power structure that's going to enable it. What do they
1:01:39
Speaker 2: need to deliver. They've got to accelerate our energy and
1:01:41
Speaker 2: industrial revolution, protect our abundant natural world, ensure our futures
1:01:47
Speaker 2: are financed. So all of this is about money. They're
1:01:50
Speaker 2: obsessed with this thing called climate finance. And importantly this
1:01:54
Speaker 2: final slide, this is what gives me hope. How we
1:01:57
Speaker 2: must respond. We've got to end in fighting. Yeah, this
1:02:01
Speaker 2: is like an internal communication thing that they put out.
1:02:03
Speaker 2: I don't know if they expect other people to read
1:02:05
Speaker 2: this stuff right, but apparently they need to stop attacking
1:02:08
Speaker 2: allies and embrace different paths towards the shared vision. They
1:02:12
Speaker 2: all hate each other. Yeah, this is corporate politics. You've
1:02:15
Speaker 2: got people who've come up through the system by being
1:02:18
Speaker 2: ruthless and taking other people out, and now they're turning
1:02:22
Speaker 2: on each other. I think that they're struggling to implement
1:02:25
Speaker 2: their plans. It says, upgrade our tactics. We've got to
1:02:28
Speaker 2: stop broadcasting and start building a movement. So this is
1:02:31
Speaker 2: less about media more about on the ground. Tailor our message,
1:02:35
Speaker 2: stop ignoring the audience and focus on what truly matters
1:02:38
Speaker 2: to people. And unfortunately what matters to people has got
1:02:42
Speaker 2: nothing to do with the economic, technological and political transition
1:02:47
Speaker 2: that they're trying to force us into.
1:02:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it, Ben, I think we need to stop there.
1:02:54
Speaker 1: For today's news. We're always shorter time because there is
1:02:58
Speaker 1: so much happening, but each UK Column News we try
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Speaker 1: and get out as much as we possibly can to
1:03:03
Speaker 1: the audience. So let's send it there. Huge thank you
1:03:07
Speaker 1: to everybody who's joined us today, wherever you are in
1:03:10
Speaker 1: the world. We're very grateful of your support, and the
1:03:14
Speaker 1: more viewers we get, the stronger UK Column becomes. Now,
1:03:19
Speaker 1: I just want to point out that Saturday's event was wonderful.
1:03:23
Speaker 1: We're going to look to have another one in the autumn,
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Speaker 1: and next year is our twentieth anniversaries UK Column News
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Speaker 1: and we're going to look to have a special weekend event,
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Speaker 1: So stay with us for all of that. And my
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Speaker 1: last comment is, yes, we did invite the director of
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Speaker 1: GCHQ to come and enjoy the day on her doorstep,
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Speaker 1: but unfortunately she was much too busy to attend and
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Speaker 1: actually discuss her work with a wider public. A great shame.
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Speaker 1: Let's leave it there for members of the UK column
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Speaker 1: state with us because we'll have UK column extra in
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Speaker 1: just a few minutes.
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Speaker 2: Log I
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