Latest / INSIGHT TODAY / The War They Didn't Vote For: How the Conflict with Iran Alienated Gen Z Men
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- 0:00Speaker 1: David Challen, let's check in with you.
- 0:01Speaker 2: What numbers are you looking at just in terms of
- 0:03Speaker 2: shifts among Republican voters?
- 0:05Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at the fraying of the Trump 2024 coalition, Anderson.
- 0:11Speaker 1: You remember there was a lot of talk about Trump
- 0:13Speaker 1: making up ground with young men in the 24 election.
- 0:16Speaker 3: Look here.
- 0:17Speaker 1: In this midterm election, men ages 18 to 29, they
- 0:21Speaker 1: are 10% of the overall electorate. Democrats won them 66%
- 0:26Speaker 1: to 31%. That's a 35-point advantage.
- 0:28Speaker 3: This is a.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Group Donald Trump actually won by one point two years ago.
- 0:33Speaker 1: That's a 36-point swing away from the Republicans. The Latino vote,
- 0:37Speaker 1: also 10% of the overall electorate.
- 0:40Speaker 3: Democrats.
- 0:41Speaker 1: got 64% of them. That is 30 percentage points ahead
- 0:45Speaker 1: among Latinos of what Republicans got, 34%. Just two years ago,
- 0:49Speaker 1: Donald Trump lost the Latino vote by five points to
- 0:52Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. So this is a 25-point swing among Latinos
- 0:56Speaker 1: away from Republicans. And independents are a similar story, except
- 1:00Speaker 1: they're a bigger share of the electorate. They make up
- 1:03Speaker 1: a third of the electorate, independents do. Democrats won them
- 1:06Speaker 1: by 20 points, 58% to 38%. This is a group
- 1:10Speaker 1: Donald Trump, just two years ago, Anderson, lost to Kamala
- 1:13Speaker 1: Harris by three points. And now Republicans are losing independents
- 1:16Speaker 1: by 20. Wow, fascinating.
- 1:18Speaker 3: Dave Jelen, we'll come back to you.
- 1:19Speaker 2: Let's go to our panel.
- 1:21Speaker 3: Van Jones, what do you think is.
- 1:23Speaker 4: What happens? Particularly, what about young men?
- 1:26Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think young men are, you know,
- 1:29Speaker 2: they move toward Trump. And why? Because the economic circumstance
- 1:34Speaker 2: for young men is terrible. And they were, look, they're
- 1:37Speaker 2: going for crypto scams. They're going for betting apps.
- 1:41Speaker 3: Something.
- 1:42Speaker 2: They're doing multiple gig economy jobs. They're door dashing. And
- 1:46Speaker 2: they just can't get ahead. And they signed Donald Trump somebody.
- 1:49Speaker 2: who was kind of a tough bro who understood them.
- 1:51Speaker 2: He was on their platforms. They moved toward him. Nothing changed.
- 1:56Speaker 2: In fact, everything got worse. Their opportunities got worse. The
- 2:00Speaker 2: gas prices went up. If you're a door dasher, this
- 2:03Speaker 2: is not good for you. And so you see young
- 2:05Speaker 2: men saying this was garbage and they're moving away. The
- 2:09Speaker 2: Epstein stuff did not help at all because there was
- 2:12Speaker 2: this whole thing around these Democrats are perverts, but now
- 2:15Speaker 2: Trump is not cooperating. So I've seen young men sour.
- 2:19Speaker 2: What I was happy to see was some of those
- 2:21Speaker 2: young men, rather than just dropping out, decided to do
- 2:23Speaker 2: something else, move a different direction.
- 2:25Speaker 4: Did you anticipate these shifts, Scott, at all? Well, I
- 2:28Speaker 4: think the economic conditions for a lot of groups, not
- 2:31Speaker 4: just young men, explain most of what happened. I also
- 2:34Speaker 4: think that we may have mistaken cultural access for political loyalty.
- 2:41Speaker 4: I with a lot of young men in 2024 through
- 2:46Speaker 4: podcasts and other venues, people that maybe we didn't think
- 2:50Speaker 4: of previously as Republicans. And so they came to Trump.
- 2:53Speaker 4: And then it's easy to say, well, they're with us now.
- 2:55Speaker 4: They'll be with us all the time. You can't confuse
- 2:58Speaker 4: those things. They may not be strong partisans. They may
- 3:01Speaker 4: just think, well, this seems like the best option at
- 3:03Speaker 4: the time. Then you throw two years of it doesn't
- 3:06Speaker 4: feel like things are getting better. And they're not loyal anymore.
- 3:09Speaker 4: And I think you just can never mistake access to
- 3:13Speaker 4: a voter pool in one election for permanence.
- 3:15Speaker 3: And that's obviously what happened.
- 3:17Speaker 5: I think that there's another issue with Southern black voters specifically,
- 3:24Speaker 5: and that is there's been kind of an assault on
- 3:27Speaker 5: them through the dissolution of the Voting Rights Act, redistricting
- 3:34Speaker 5: in the South, not necessarily Mississippi, but in the South.
- 3:38Speaker 5: And I think this has really raised the ire of voters,
- 3:43Speaker 5: including young men. So you add the economic piece to
- 3:47Speaker 5: those provocations. And, you know, I sat down with Scott
- 3:50Speaker 5: Collum in Chicago a few weeks ago, and he talked
- 3:53Speaker 5: about the mobilization that he felt among black voters, including
- 3:57Speaker 5: young black voters. And I think we saw it play
- 3:59Speaker 5: out yesterday.
- 4:00Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, look at also where Joe Rogan
- 4:03Speaker 6: has gone in the last two years. I mean, if
- 4:04Speaker 6: you focus in on that as a place where we
- 4:06Speaker 6: really saw this phenomenon play out with young men, he's
- 4:09Speaker 6: been talking about the war with Iran and how that
- 4:11Speaker 6: has essentially left a lot of these voters that listen
- 4:13Speaker 6: to his podcast behind. And I mean, to your point, David,
- 4:16Speaker 6: about Mississippi, I mean, Scott Colombe and there are other
- 4:19Speaker 6: Democrats across the map. Often they are male candidates, working
- 4:23Speaker 6: class candidates. Sam Forsag in Montana, Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan.
- 4:27Speaker 6: They have embraced masculinity in a way that we hadn't
- 4:30Speaker 6: necessarily seen the Democratic Party do in other ways. And
- 4:34Speaker 6: Scott Colom is very appealing, straightforward, again, avoided some of
- 4:37Speaker 6: these culture war issues that have alienated young men and
- 4:40Speaker 6: instead ran on traditional economic issues.
- 4:43Speaker 7: The American people did last night and we'll see what
- 4:44Speaker 7: happens in Alaska. We'll get that final number in Mississippi.
- 4:47Speaker 7: We're talking about a Mississippi Senate race. Potential Democratic win
- 4:51Speaker 7: the morning after a midterm election. Mississippi, North Carolina, Ohio, Iowa, Kansas.
- 4:58Speaker 7: What the American voter did last night was to revolt
- 5:01Speaker 7: and to repudiate the president. And in the process, Dana,
- 5:04Speaker 7: they just crushed and crumbled the mega coalition. Pick a place.
- 5:08Speaker 7: Let's go to Iowa. President Trump won it three times.
- 5:11Speaker 7: See these three House districts? Three Democrats flipping Republican seats
- 5:15Speaker 7: in the state of Iowa. That's a state the president
- 5:17Speaker 7: carried easily. Iowa also elected a Democratic senator and it
- 5:21Speaker 7: elected a Democratic governor. The mega coalition out in Iowa,
- 5:24Speaker 7: mostly white working class people, farmers, small cities, crushed. Move
- 5:30Speaker 7: over to another place. You can go to North Carolina.
- 5:32Speaker 7: Look at house races here. Again, another state. The president won.
- 5:35Speaker 7: three times. Out in Western North Carolina, Democrats have not
- 5:39Speaker 7: been able to win in rural white working class America
- 5:42Speaker 7: in forever. This seat, not in more than a dozen years,
- 5:45Speaker 7: not only did the Democrat win, look at that margin,
- 5:47Speaker 7: 57 to 41 in white working class America. The mega
- 5:50Speaker 7: coalition in Western North Carolina crumbled. Let's pick another place. Well,
- 5:54Speaker 7: how did the president get reelected in 2024? Well, he
- 5:57Speaker 7: had a giant surge in Latino votes across the country,
- 6:00Speaker 7: including in Texas. What did Texas do? Look down here.
- 6:04Speaker 7: in the Rio Grande Valley. Remember the Republican redistricting plan?
- 6:07Speaker 7: Let's just bring this up for you here. Remember, Republicans redistricted.
- 6:11Speaker 7: They said they were going to pick up five seats
- 6:12Speaker 7: in Texas alone. They did that at the president's demand,
- 6:15Speaker 7: not request, demand. Well, what happened with that? Four of
- 6:18Speaker 7: the five went to Democrats. Democrats winning by bigger margins
- 6:22Speaker 7: than they did two years ago in districts the Republicans
- 6:24Speaker 7: redrew to make them more difficult, largely on the power
- 6:28Speaker 7: of Latino voters. That's not all Texas did. Texas, as
- 6:31Speaker 7: you know, elected a Democratic senator for the first time
- 6:34Speaker 7: in 38 years and a Democratic governor, a Latina, for
- 6:37Speaker 7: the first time in 36 years. I could go on
- 6:40Speaker 7: and on and on, but let me end with the
- 6:41Speaker 7: crumbling of the mega coalition in the home state of
- 6:44Speaker 7: the vice president, J.D.
- 6:45Speaker 2: Vance.
- 6:46Speaker 7: Vivek Ramaswamy, MAGA himself, crushed, crushed in the governor's race
- 6:52Speaker 7: in a state where they haven't elected a governor in
- 6:53Speaker 7: 20 years, in a state President Trump carried easily three times.
- 6:56Speaker 7: Sherrod Brown, back to the Senate in J.D. Vance's old
- 7:01Speaker 7: seat in Ohio. So MAGA was on the ballot big
- 7:04Speaker 7: time here, Dana, and MAGA here and just about everywhere
- 7:07Speaker 7: got crushed. A lot for the Republicans to think about.
- 7:10Speaker 7: They followed Trump, and last night they followed him off
- 7:13Speaker 7: a cliff.
- 7:14Speaker 8: Is the MAGA era, is the Trump era coming to
- 7:17Speaker 8: an end? That's what a lot of conservatives are asking
- 7:20Speaker 8: today as the Republican Party's catastrophic losses in the midterms
- 7:24Speaker 8: become clearer. And frankly, even before the dust had cleared,
- 7:28Speaker 8: the day before the election, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, whose
- 7:31Speaker 8: state largely managed to hold off much of the blue wave,
- 7:35Speaker 8: DeSantis started drawing distinctions between his views and the Trump administration's,
- 7:40Speaker 8: specifically on the Iran war. He called it a big
- 7:42Speaker 8: drag on Republicans and accused the administration of gaslighting Americans
- 7:47Speaker 8: when it came to the high price of gas and
- 7:49Speaker 8: how it hurt regular working people. And even more stunningly, Today,
- 7:54Speaker 8: the sitting vice president, J.D. Vance, took to Twitter or
- 7:57Speaker 8: X to give the reasons why he thought the elections
- 8:01Speaker 8: had been such a disaster for the Trump administration and
- 8:03Speaker 8: for Republicans. And he blamed the U.S. war with Iran.
- 8:07Speaker 8: And he suggested the U.S. has too close a relationship
- 8:10Speaker 8: with Israel.
- 8:11Speaker 4: And on the.
- 8:11Speaker 8: Subject of immigration enforcement, the vice president said, quote, I'm
- 8:15Speaker 8: open to the idea that we should change enforcement by
- 8:17Speaker 8: focusing more on businesses that hire illegal labor, for instance, unquote.
- 8:22Speaker 8: That doesn't exactly sound like the language of a sitting
- 8:24Speaker 8: vice president. It sounds a lot more like someone outside
- 8:28Speaker 8: the White House contemplating formulating his own platform, perhaps contemplating
- 8:33Speaker 8: a presidential run. Now, the other question about whether we've
- 8:36Speaker 8: hit the end of the road of Trump Avenue is tone.
- 8:41Speaker 8: Voters overwhelmingly yesterday rejected politicians offering nasty attacks. And in fact,
- 8:49Speaker 8: they voted for the people on the other end of
- 8:52Speaker 8: those attacks. In Ohio, Republican Governor candidate Vivek Ramaswamy lost
- 8:58Speaker 8: decisively to Democrat Amy Acton, whose childhood rape he had
- 9:05Speaker 8: exploited in what has been derided as perhaps the worst
- 9:08Speaker 8: political TV ad ever made. Vice President Vance made nasty,
- 9:13Speaker 8: weird insinuations about James Tallarico, the Democrat who won a
- 9:18Speaker 8: Senate seat in, of all places, formerly Ruby Red, Texas,
- 9:23Speaker 8: and Senator Roger Marshall, who desperately was suggesting in the
- 9:27Speaker 8: closing hours of his campaign that Democratic pastor, now Senator-elect
- 9:32Speaker 8: Adam Hamilton, was guilty of grooming.
- 9:37Speaker 6: Dr.
- 9:37Speaker 8: Marshall is also heading home.
- 9:40Speaker 9: And not to the Senate.
- 9:42Speaker 8: Hamilton and Tallarico in particular have made decency and kindness
- 9:47Speaker 8: hallmarks of their campaigns. Now, to be clear, Trump is
- 9:51Speaker 8: still president, still powerful, still loud and proud. But there
- 9:56Speaker 8: are real signs that the Trump era is coming to
- 10:00Speaker 8: a close. Now, I'm here now with Dana Bash and
- 10:03Speaker 8: Caitlin Collins and John King. What do you think, Dana?
- 10:09Speaker 3: I think that.
- 10:09Speaker 8: You can disagree.
- 10:10Speaker 3: No, well, no, far be it for me to disagree. No,
- 10:14Speaker 3: I think what you laid out is spot on. And
- 10:17Speaker 3: we don't know.
- 10:20Speaker 3: The Trump era is absolutely coming to an end. It's
- 10:23Speaker 3: just the way it is. And the beginning, we said
- 10:25Speaker 3: last night, his lame duck era started the minute that
- 10:29Speaker 3: the Democrats took the House. The question is, what's it
- 10:32Speaker 3: going to look like? And more importantly, going forward, is
- 10:36Speaker 3: MAGA going to be picked up by anybody? I think
- 10:40Speaker 3: that the short answer is no. And you just laid
- 10:42Speaker 3: that out. But what I'm hearing from Republicans today, and
- 10:46Speaker 3: I'm guessing you all are the same, is between Ron DeSantis,
- 10:51Speaker 3: the governor of Florida, coming out very forcefully saying that Republicans,
- 10:57Speaker 3: if not for Florida, would have been at an extinction-level event.
- 11:02Speaker 3: Then J.D. Vance coming out and saying, whoa, whoa, whoa,
- 11:05Speaker 3: it's the war, and trying to sort of make excuses.
- 11:09Speaker 3: And then I'm told behind the scenes people are saying, okay,
- 11:12Speaker 3: Marco Rubio, maybe it's time for you to get up.
- 11:14Speaker 3: The jockeying for 2028 has already begun. And I didn't
- 11:19Speaker 3: even mention Ted Cruz and others who are out there.
- 11:22Speaker 9: I mean, the Trump administration is lost right now. They're
- 11:25Speaker 9: not really sure how to navigate this going forward. And
- 11:28Speaker 9: I think the statement from the vice president today, which
- 11:30Speaker 9: was extremely long, really encapsulated that, where he was breaking
- 11:34Speaker 9: with the president on the Iran war, saying, well, the
- 11:37Speaker 9: president said last night that's why Republicans lost. That's not
- 11:40Speaker 9: what the president said last night. And, yes, today he
- 11:42Speaker 9: said he agreed with him, but he tried to blame
- 11:45Speaker 9: gas prices without tying them to the war, even though
- 11:47Speaker 9: we all know they are directly tied, because if you
- 11:49Speaker 9: look at a chart, they skyrocketed in February when he
- 11:52Speaker 9: started launching bombs in Iran. And so, I mean, if
- 11:56Speaker 9: you look at the president, though, who is known for
- 11:58Speaker 9: his political savvy, the party follows him. They do what
- 12:01Speaker 9: he says, essentially. Today, he appeared at the White House
- 12:04Speaker 9: ballroom construction site, signed a steel beam, and right now
- 12:08Speaker 9: is complaining that the Senate didn't make daylight savings permanent.
- 12:12Speaker 9: And so he's not really giving them any guidance on
- 12:15Speaker 9: how they should handle the massive losses that they suffer.
- 12:17Speaker 3: He kind of is. He's kind of saying, I don't care.
- 12:20Speaker 3: I mean, without saying it.
- 12:21Speaker 7: Don't you think?
- 12:21Speaker 9: But he definitely cares.