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- 3:03Welcome in to the Scene Project Sports Network.
- 3:07This is Vikings United.
- 3:09This is a very special holiday edition.
- 3:12Ho ho ho to everyone out there.
- 3:14A very merry Christmas to you.
- 3:17Welcome in.
- 3:18I am your host, Bubba Starts.
- 3:20And with me, as always, my cohost, coach Cody.
- 3:24Cody Holmdahl, welcome to the show, brother.
- 3:26Merry Christmas to you, man.
- 3:28Man, Bubba, merry Christmas.
- 3:30It's a very special time of the year, obviously, and just a time for us to get
- 3:34together with friends, family, close ones, and, you know, just get that holiday spirit.
- 3:42So I'm starting to feel it already.
- 3:44Just now feeling it.
- 3:46A couple days later.
- 3:47Just put
- 3:47this hat on for the show.
- 3:48I've been wearing it all day.
- 3:50We we did some Christmas shopping today with the kids and, getting out with the family
- 3:55today.
- 3:56Even though we don't have a lot of snow down here in Southeast South Dakota right now, it
- 4:00all kinda melted off.
- 4:02The weather's been absolutely beautiful.
- 4:04It was 60 degrees yesterday.
- 4:07It doesn't bother me one bit, and I feel just as festive.
- 4:10I have no problem with a subtropical Christmas whatsoever.
- 4:15Maybe one year we can do a destination Christmas together when the Vikings are maybe
- 4:20playing on Christmas day for an away game and say, I don't know, Florida, Southern
- 4:26California.
- 4:27I'm okay with that.
- 4:29Right.
- 4:29Yeah.
- 4:29No.
- 4:30Somewhere warm.
- 4:31Definitely.
- 4:32It hasn't been too bad over here.
- 4:34I I would love for a 60 degree day, but I'll take thirties for right now.
- 4:39Yeah.
- 4:39Well, and up up in the Twin Cities, obviously, you're not just a Minnesota fan, but you live
- 4:44up that way.
- 4:45You guys have been getting pelted by snow already this season and kinda buried in.
- 4:51With snow comes car trouble, which I know you've had plenty of this year.
- 4:55We need to so we need start sharing coach Cody's Venmo so we
- 4:59make sure he gets
- 5:00to work and can keep doing the show.
- 5:02Yeah.
- 5:04No.
- 5:06That was a unexpected surprise, unpleasant one to say the least.
- 5:12Just yeah.
- 5:15Coach, how do you feel like your life of football prepared you for the challenges that
- 5:21life throws at you?
- 5:22I know, obviously, we talk a lot of ball here.
- 5:25Mhmm.
- 5:25But, football is the greatest game for a reason, and it's it's what it makes out of
- 5:30young men and young women who play the game, right, that it teaches you something about life
- 5:36with each and every week.
- 5:37And lord knows, we have had some lessons taught to us with this Vikings team this year.
- 5:43What has it taught you just as a reflection as we come to the end of the year here?
- 5:48Well, I mean, like, I had mentioned in our earlier conversation when it first happened,
- 5:55you know, you're like, oh, man.
- 5:57That sucks.
- 5:57I'm like, there's three things that you do or that I'd like to do when things happen.
- 6:04One, it is what it is.
- 6:07I actually learned this from one of my mentorship classes, but one, it is what it is.
- 6:12I mean, you can go back and change it.
- 6:14You just gotta go forward.
- 6:17Harvest the good.
- 6:19Take whatever good you can from any situation.
- 6:22Even in a bad situation, you can only always find a positive.
- 6:26And then number three is, let go and let God.
- 6:31So, I mean, I've been sticking to that, and that usually helps me because, old version of
- 6:37Cody would have absolutely crashed out in that moment.
- 6:44No red solo cup tonight.
- 6:45No.
- 6:46I, I actually landed a really nice job opportunity, getting into real estate.
- 6:52So I got a lot of classes and courses to go through.
- 6:55Oh, well, you're gonna do great at that.
- 6:57And as soon as you've got that license, we'll be sharing it on the show and and getting the
- 7:01word out there.
- 7:03So, hey, if you're looking to sell a house in the next couple of months, you can get ahold of
- 7:07coach Cody.
- 7:08And Oh, yeah.
- 7:09I'll treat you right.
- 7:11Before we get too far into the rest of the show, we got a lot to get to, guys.
- 7:15We're gonna do our since the Vikings are playing on Christmas Day, we're also gonna do
- 7:19our pregame show tonight, and then we're gonna run this all as a replay on Christmas Day.
- 7:23So if you're watching this on Christmas Day, a merry Christmas to you, and thanks for tuning
- 7:27in.
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- 7:31We're gonna talk the good, the bad, and the ugly from the game on Sunday, and then we're
- 7:36gonna jump into our pregame coverage here as well.
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- 7:50Maybe.
- 7:53Okay.
- 8:49Alright, coach.
- 8:51I don't know if, Eddie got play, but we're trying.
- 8:54I, was in a little bit of a rush tonight getting everything ready.
- 8:58So if something screws up, I'll take the l on that.
- 9:01It's all good.
- 9:02It doesn't doesn't bother me.
- 9:04It's not the first time.
- 9:06But, you know, it's, you know, part of life.
- 9:11Right?
- 9:11You know, the old me as well, coach, woulda just crashed out here, woulda got mad, throwing
- 9:17some stuff, like cats in the background, going bananas.
- 9:21She didn't get her allotment of attention today, so she's losing her crap back there.
- 9:27It's, you know, it is what it is.
- 9:29Oh, that's why that did that.
- 9:30I see now.
- 9:31I see what I did.
- 9:32Here.
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- 9:33Let's try it again.
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- 10:24Hey.
- 10:25Alright.
- 10:25We did it.
- 10:27We made it through.
- 10:29Yes, sir.
- 10:30Yes, sir.
- 10:31We got it.
- 10:31Alright.
- 10:32So let's get in the gooter, the eeler, and the yoder.
- 10:36That's the good, the bad, and the ugly, and Vikings, Yiddish, or may I don't know.
- 10:41I don't know what they spoke.
- 10:42Some version of something Norwegian.
- 10:45But this is our chance to kinda talk about what we liked from the game, what we didn't like,
- 10:50and what was just atrocious.
- 10:52A lot more of the latter than the former, with this game against the Giants.
- 10:57Obviously, JJ McCarthy getting hurt there towards the end of that second quarter had a
- 11:03lot to do with that coach.
- 11:04But what did you like be before it before it turned ugly?
- 11:09I mean I mean, the good, obviously, we're coming out with a win.
- 11:16Kept kept that winning streak live three in a row.
- 11:19Let's keep it going.
- 11:20Two a quick turnaround here, but I like the fact that we were able to, work in Justin
- 11:27Jefferson, try to get the ball to him early.
- 11:30You know, just with a start like that and with the slow start that he has been having, it's
- 11:36pivotal that you do get him the ball early in games like these, you know, where you're going
- 11:43up against an opponent where it's, you know, the lower echelon, I guess.
- 11:49It definitely seemed like KOC was watching the pregame show again because they were doing
- 11:54everything that you had mentioned off the top.
- 11:57Right?
- 11:58The screens, you know, what however you could get him the ball, get the ball in his hands,
- 12:03and just let him go make plays.
- 12:05And and it's not like they were not doing that the rest of the year.
- 12:09I'm sure there was points where they, you know, maybe forced it a little too hard, especially
- 12:13in Dallas.
- 12:14I I think you took some you know, you you threw some balls in there that you probably you
- 12:19didn't need to.
- 12:19You probably could've looked somewhere else.
- 12:21But he's one of the best I mean, he's the best receiver in the league if you ask me.
- 12:26Having watched him play in person a few times now, the amount of respect that he commands
- 12:32from a defense, like, nobody's game planning for anything other than how do we stop Justin
- 12:38Jefferson, and he can still make you pay during a game.
- 12:42Mhmm.
- 12:43Yeah.
- 12:43No.
- 12:43I and then KOC probably is watching this.
- 12:47And, you know, with KOC, we've been giving you a lot of grief in early in the earlier
- 12:51episodes, but you're coming around.
- 12:53You know?
- 12:53We're growing and learning with this.
- 12:55You are doing the same, so kudos to you.
- 13:00But, yeah, Jeff Jefferson.
- 13:02You know, the different styles of play calls that, KOC was throwing out too with those,
- 13:10like, kinda screen passes to, Josh Oliver coming out, and it just looked totally
- 13:17different than what I've seen so far this year.
- 13:20So that was actually really, really nice to see.
- 13:24Other than that, I'd say the only other good is Byron Murphy got a pick.
- 13:30He finally got a pick after going crazy last year, Couldn't find one.
- 13:35Yeah.
- 13:35You know, couldn't find water if he jumped out of a boat type of thing, and he finally got
- 13:40one.
- 13:40Granted, it was off a tip, but we'll take it.
- 13:44Well and so last year, if I'm not mistaken, he was playing a lot more in the slot last year,
- 13:50which with this defense, that puts you in a position to catch those batted balls to, you
- 13:56know, get those tipped balls over the middle of the field and puts in a position for that.
- 14:01It's a little bit harder on that outside to come up with a lot of those opportunistic
- 14:07picks.
- 14:07Right?
- 14:08And like you said, this one coming off the hands of the big tight end as he was about to
- 14:11get lit up by the linebacker there, got the alligator arms out a little bit.
- 14:16And the ball pops up in the air, and he's Murphy's got good hands.
- 14:21Right?
- 14:22It's just he's not necessarily getting those opportunities this year playing, I don't wanna
- 14:27say out of position, but in a much different position than he was last year playing in more
- 14:32of that nickel cornerback position.
- 14:35Yeah.
- 14:35Well and then, you know, along with that, but, you know, when you have a year like that, it it
- 14:42opens some eyes, and you're most likely not gonna get as much attention the next year or
- 14:49even the next game, you know, because everyone's seeing that you're locking down that
- 14:54side of the field.
- 14:56So, I mean, you know, just playing out of position, less opportunities coming his way.
- 15:01You know?
- 15:02And sometimes when it's your year, it's your year.
- 15:04Sometimes it's not.
- 15:05So I you know, just it goes hand in hand.
- 15:09But that would that would honestly, that's probably the only good that I would have with
- 15:14that game.
- 15:15Only good.
- 15:16Yeah.
- 15:16Well and you know what?
- 15:17You got a quarter and a half of JJ McCarthy playing pretty well.
- 15:23Right?
- 15:24And then obviously throws the ball, slams his hand into the helmet.
- 15:28That stuff happens to these quarterbacks all the time.
- 15:32Now that's restarting the whole, you know, he's made a glass kind of thing.
- 15:36I mean, this happens.
- 15:37When you're playing at a high level and when you're a young player, you don't necessarily
- 15:41know how to play.
- 15:44I don't I don't wanna say safe, but playing a little bit differently to not put yourself in a
- 15:50position to get hurt.
- 15:51And I don't know, you know, and maybe that's a learned trait.
- 15:55JJ does play with a little bit of reckless abandon out there, but maybe some of those
- 16:00throws, you know, where you're coming and you know you're gonna hit your hand there, an older
- 16:04player may throw it a little bit differently.
- 16:06They may sling out their little sidearm action there instead of throwing in a way that your
- 16:11follow through is going to take you right into that defensive lineman helmet like that.
- 16:16It's unfortunate because I thought he was playing well, showing you some things with his
- 16:20legs, you know, getting in there for the rushing touchdown.
- 16:24And, you know, the pick six obviously got called back, but even that one, not really his
- 16:28fault.
- 16:28Neither one of the picks, I would say, were his fault.
- 16:31I know the the pick six got called back, but your receiver's gotta catch the ball.
- 16:35And I feel like we've been we can kinda transfer into the bad from here because Jordan
- 16:40Nassau dropped a fucking dime off of his chest in the end zone again.
- 16:46Like, what the hell, man?
- 16:48Get your
- 16:48back together.
- 16:50Oh, and that's what I'm saying.
- 16:51I bet I brought it up a couple weeks, maybe three weeks ago, but, you know, which I I asked
- 16:56the question, which Addison are we gonna see?
- 16:59Because we could see Addison the Addison that comes out and can damn near be that number two
- 17:05wide receiver.
- 17:07Or you see what we saw this past weekend where, you know, the quarterback our quarterbacks
- 17:14finally can get you that ball down the field, and you're not even gonna it hits you right in
- 17:19the chest when you're gonna drop it.
- 17:21That's ridiculous.
- 17:22That pick, like you mentioned, both those picks, I'm not putting that on McCarthy one
- 17:28bit.
- 17:29That screen, that screenplay that he ended up getting hurt on, screens are meant, They're
- 17:39basically allowing the defense to get upfield quick.
- 17:43So you can
- 17:43Cody, that's not even the one that he got hurt on.
- 17:46He hurt his hand earlier in the game.
- 17:48So they showed a replay where he was following through on a throw earlier in the game and
- 17:53actually smacks.
- 17:54I think it was Roy Rob Roy Robertson Harris catches Roy Rob in the helmet.
- 18:01And Okay.
- 18:02Honestly, I'm gonna be real about that that strip sack that they called.
- 18:05The ball was out before he got tackled.
- 18:07If you see the rear end zone, the all 22 when you see it on the all 22 and you get that end
- 18:13zone look at it, that ball's already out.
- 18:15He was trying to dirt it, and I think he kinda lost control of the ball.
- 18:21And and I think if it's Tom Brady doing that, that's an attempt to pass.
- 18:26Yeah.
- 18:26Right?
- 18:26But because and then he gets lit up there, that ball's out, and they only showed that replay
- 18:31one time.
- 18:32They only showed it on one time coming back from the halftime, and I saw the one replay.
- 18:39It was like, that ball's already out before he ever gets hit.
- 18:41So it wasn't necessarily on that play, but then probably gets, you know what I mean, reinjured
- 18:46out there, and they're going to or or they see it like, hey.
- 18:50What happened on the play?
- 18:51He's like, man, I can't grab the ball.
- 18:53You know what I mean?
- 18:54Or they're, you know, bitching at him.
- 18:55Know?
- 18:55Why didn't you hang out on the ball?
- 18:56What are you doing?
- 18:57And it's like, man, slipped out because I don't have that grip strength, and that's where they
- 19:02start to do the testing.
- 19:03You see him wince on the sideline there.
- 19:05So yeah, man.
- 19:06I and I think if that team's even between if those teams are contending, I think they take
- 19:12another look at that play and because it was in the final two minutes of the half, then it gets
- 19:17an extra look.
- 19:18But I think because it's such an inconsequential game that nobody even cares to
- 19:23watch the replay.
- 19:25Right?
- 19:25Like, nobody in New York gives a shit.
- 19:27Look.
- 19:27It doesn't it doesn't matter.
- 19:29You're a low priority.
- 19:30But to me, ball was out.
- 19:32You can see it clear as day.
- 19:34That ball is out, and I think it's related to the injury that he sustained earlier in the
- 19:39game.
- 19:40Yeah.
- 19:40No.
- 19:41That's, that's my bad.
- 19:42Thank you for picking me up on that.
- 19:44You had texted me about that when I was getting my tire up out of the ditch.
- 19:48So I was still climbing up out of that valley, but, it was it was a trip, man.
- 19:55Made me feel alive, though, you know, feeling all emotions.
- 19:59But other than that, the bad I mean, just losing losing JJ going down like that, and now
- 20:08out for this week, coming up against the Lions, it's you know, it leads you to question, do
- 20:14you, you know, probably just shut him down?
- 20:17You probably just shut him down.
- 20:18Think he's coming back.
- 20:19I I just especially if it's that hair a hairline fracture, there is no reason to go
- 20:25back out there and risk it, especially because you've seen a little bit of growth.
- 20:29I know a lot of people wanna see more, but there's a lot they're gonna be able to see in
- 20:34this offseason because I don't think quarterback is your first move.
- 20:38I know a lot of us fans are like, you gotta get somebody.
- 20:41I think that's gonna be a pulling someone off the strike.
- 20:44You don't know who's gonna get cut in training camp.
- 20:47Right?
- 20:47And I think it's gonna be more of that than you know, I don't think they're making a big splash
- 20:53at quarterback with trading for a starter, a Matt Stafford or a Joe Burrow.
- 20:57I don't think that's happening.
- 20:58I think a percentage chance of that happen in the teens, maybe, in the high teens.
- 21:03Right?
- 21:03Like, a 18% chance maybe of something happened because the offer that you would make would be
- 21:09too sweet.
- 21:10Right?
- 21:10If Burrow's available for two firsts and two seconds, now I'm talking.
- 21:16But three first rounders, I I don't think you're bringing I don't think you're bringing
- 21:20the Vikings to the table, mortgaging your entire future in that way.
- 21:24But, yeah, losing JJ sucks, man.
- 21:26Well and even even two first rounders and two seconds because he can package those two
- 21:32seconds into a a third first.
- 21:35So I with his he's a good quarterback.
- 21:39I would love to have him on our team.
- 21:41All this talking about him coming possibly coming to the Vikings or, you know, to all the
- 21:45different scenarios that would bring him here.
- 21:48I just He can hurt
- 21:48just as much if not more than JJ McCarthy has, though.
- 21:52Yep.
- 21:52Yep.
- 21:53So, I mean, if the draft capital is just that's too much for me.
- 21:59You know?
- 21:59And as much as I wanna go for an offensive lineman, I'd go for Jeremiah Love.
- 22:04Just just saying, KOC, if you're listen, listening, Quasi, Jeremiah Love.
- 22:10But, you know, I think you think you gotta shut down JJ McCarthy, and that you already shut
- 22:19down, Dar es Sal.
- 22:24Then it brings in the question, how long are you gonna keep Jefferson out there?
- 22:29Now he's so close.
- 22:30He's got, 27 yards to go to break Randy Moss's record for most yards, by a receiver in his
- 22:39first six seasons.
- 22:39I think if it was I think if these were wow.
- 22:44Detroit plays inside, but I've I've and both of these games are at US Bank Stadium.
- 22:50I think if you were playing away on week 17, right, if you were playing in Lambo and he
- 22:57already had the record, so say, like, he gets the yards this week and they were playing
- 23:01outdoors in Lambo, I'd say they might shut him down.
- 23:04You know what I mean?
- 23:05Or maybe on a pitch count or something, you just don't risk it.
- 23:08But both of them being at home indoors Yep.
- 23:11You feel like it minimizes some of the risk, I guess.
- 23:15It's it's if he gets it this week, it'll be interesting to see what they do.
- 23:19Obviously, he's playing on Christmas day, but it'll be really interesting to see if, like,
- 23:24the thousand yard season, these records that he's chasing down, if those are done, it'll be
- 23:31interesting to see what happens in that last game of the season.
- 23:34Yeah.
- 23:35Yeah.
- 23:36Of course, he he you know, just because the Vikings are playing on Christmas Day, even if
- 23:40we were, you know, winless, they would still and shut down most offense, say, bring them
- 23:46back out just because Chris missed and Jefferson.
- 23:49So that makes sense.
- 23:51But the ugly just the whole the whole game in general, I thought was just ugly.
- 24:01You know, reps didn't help us out, know, with a couple calls you had mentioned.
- 24:06I had missed that one.
- 24:07What do you wanna explain that call?
- 24:11Which one was that?
- 24:14Think it was it the roughing the pad?
- 24:16No.
- 24:17Roughing the
- 24:18one There was a roughing the passer I didn't agree with at all.
- 24:21Eric Wilson, I'm pretty sure, is who they called it on.
- 24:24He came in, and, I mean, it was a little bit delayed.
- 24:30Jackson Dart's moving around back there.
- 24:32I mean, what are you supposed to do?
- 24:34What are you supposed to do when you're playing this fast?
- 24:37And it it was it totally changed the game because they ended up getting three points on
- 24:41that drive to tie it.
- 24:42Now we came back down and we're able to kick another field goal to take the lead for good.
- 24:47But it was a 15 yard penalty when they were at about midfield.
- 24:51It was on third down, so it was a sack to force it to fourth down.
- 24:56I mean, it wasn't malicious.
- 24:58It wasn't like it just I I don't know.
- 25:02I don't know.
- 25:03We talked about it pregame about exact like, you're taught to wrap them up.
- 25:07It you've I just don't know.
- 25:10And I get it.
- 25:12Inconsequential game, if are they going by the letter of the rule?
- 25:16Yes.
- 25:17The rule sucks.
- 25:19Like and that's kinda where I'm at is that, like, the rule as it is written and as it's
- 25:24called out here, it is just awful.
- 25:27Absolutely awful.
- 25:28I can't stand it because it changes it changes games.
- 25:31And had this game been of some consequence, it it has ramifications.
- 25:38Right?
- 25:39And, I just I don't agree with that.
- 25:41I don't he didn't hit him.
- 25:42I think they called it helmet to helmet.
- 25:46It but what are you supposed to do?
- 25:49Like, that's my thing.
- 25:50Like, you can't help if this giant thing on your head grazes a piece of the other giant
- 25:56thing on someone else's head.
- 25:58Right?
- 25:58It wasn't him leaning in with the head and smashing into his face.
- 26:02The very tip of his helmet happens to catch the face mask.
- 26:06What are you gonna do?
- 26:08What like, I just don't understand.
- 26:11I mean and that and that's why these players are professional players playing at the highest
- 26:17level because, you know, even even with all these rule changes and everything, they can
- 26:24still come out and perform and adjust to these rule changes and perform at a high level.
- 26:30And, I mean, it's it's getting bad.
- 26:33It's they're probably you know, they already got flag football in as an Olympic sport.
- 26:38I could see them trying to take out football all in general just because of how vicious it
- 26:46is, but that's the game.
- 26:48People gotta get used to it.
- 26:52I just don't know what you're supposed to do in, in that situation as a defensive player
- 26:57because Wilson had like, it was a little bit of a delayed blitz to begin with, and he kinda
- 27:03comes free as as darts moving around in the pocket.
- 27:06And he had a good four, five step run.
- 27:09I mean, he is moving full speed at this point.
- 27:11What what is he supposed to do differently?
- 27:14I don't understand.
- 27:15I, like, I just don't understand.
- 27:17So you either do you just let him go?
- 27:19Do you not touch him at all?
- 27:21Do you can you jump?
- 27:23And that's like basically where the game is going coming down
- 27:25the what you're supposed to do.
- 27:27Like, I I it just it's crazy to me.
- 27:29It's so crazy to me.
- 27:31And, I mean, it is what it is.
- 27:33The rules are what they are.
- 27:34They're not changing.
- 27:35I do agree with a lot of them and saving these quarterbacks.
- 27:39I'm not saying that the rule needs to be changed, but there needs to be I I don't know.
- 27:44I don't know what you do about it.
- 27:45It it's atrocious what you're doing because of ultimately ultimately, what it comes down to is
- 27:50that you're stealing money from these players as well because Dallas Turner would have had,
- 27:56like, three extra sacks this year if not for roughing the pass at least.
- 28:00I think he's got called for three or four, and and we could probably check the stats.
- 28:04And if Big b were here and a shout out to our cohost, Big b wasn't feeling well, and he's
- 28:08gotta work at 6AM tomorrow on Christmas Eve.
- 28:11So I wasn't able to join us tonight.
- 28:13He said I'm popping some sleep meds and passing out.
- 28:16So I was like,
- 28:16buddy, you do what
- 28:18you gotta do.
- 28:19But it it's it's stealing money from these young players.
- 28:22Right?
- 28:22From these young men who only have a limited amount of time in the league to make that
- 28:26money.
- 28:27The difference between three sacks or and six sacks when it comes down to contract time is
- 28:34pretty freaking big.
- 28:35Right?
- 28:35So Mhmm.
- 28:37I I just I don't know.
- 28:40I I feel for them.
- 28:41As players, I feel for them.
- 28:42Like and I someone who didn't even really, like, play the game at any kind of level,
- 28:46right, to to I just don't know how you're gonna go full speed and all you're gonna make a split
- 28:51second decision that if he gets away from you and he goes and hits a big pass, everybody's
- 28:56looking at you and going, you fucking suck.
- 29:00You know?
- 29:00Like, the the double standard No.
- 29:02Frustrating.
- 29:04No.
- 29:04That and that's exactly it.
- 29:06And that, you know, and that goes you know, there's so many decisions that you have to make
- 29:11in a split second.
- 29:13And, you know, your reaction time.
- 29:15You know, if that quarterback dips his head a little bit or twitches, moves a little bit, and
- 29:20you don't match that, you're gonna get fined.
- 29:24And, you know, I mean, we're you know, it's no secret.
- 29:28Everybody's out to try to get you somehow.
- 29:31Some way, anytime they can get you, they're gonna get you.
- 29:34You know, it it's not a they're like, yeah.
- 29:37These NFL contracts are getting bigger and bigger, but the fines are getting bigger and
- 29:41bigger.
- 29:42They're finding every possible way to slap them things on.
- 29:46Oh, they got Puka Nakua for rubbing his hands together.
- 29:49Fined him $25.
- 29:53I I know.
- 29:54I just There's gonna be there's there's gonna be something for everything.
- 30:01Everybody's gonna try to find something.
- 30:04Now I'm not I can't speak on that because, like, I heard about it, but I don't know all
- 30:09too much about whatever.
- 30:11But, I mean, that's just ridiculous.
- 30:14He was not he's not trying to do anything.
- 30:17We're just ball players.
- 30:18You know?
- 30:19He is the moment, showing emotion.
- 30:21And Yeah. It is
- 30:21It is what
- 30:22it is.
- 30:22He was told to do it by by another podcaster who he was on with, and and I got the whole
- 30:29backstory, another podcast that I listened to.
- 30:31Shout out to Andy Frisella, the Real AF podcast.
- 30:34They went pretty in-depth on it.
- 30:35But I it just it goes to show you, man.
- 30:38This league is just unreal.
- 30:40Unreal with their rules and everything that you're trying to do and to play at this high of
- 30:44a level.
- 30:45And you know what?
- 30:46Honestly, it's only a matter of time before the talent starts to leave it.
- 30:51Right?
- 30:52Before somebody else with a whole big boatload of money goes, you know what?
- 30:56We're gonna make a rival league.
- 30:57And I know some people have tried, but there's only so long that people are going to continue
- 31:03to support this kind of crap.
- 31:06And and if it ever does happen to the NFL, then they had it coming.
- 31:11Yeah.
- 31:11No.
- 31:12I you know, you make your bed, you can lay in it type of thing.
- 31:16I I agree with that 100%.
- 31:17You know, a a $100,000,000,000 trillion dollar, you know, franchise that is the NFL.
- 31:24So it ain't happening anytime soon, but you you never know, man.
- 31:27It's only a matter of time before people just start tuning out.
- 31:31I mean, you've seen what it takes for an NFL fan base to tune out with this Vikings team.
- 31:35Right?
- 31:36And the wolfs kind of hemorrhaging money that they could have made just because the team's no
- 31:40longer gonna make the playoffs.
- 31:42Right?
- 31:42Like, you they're doing whatever they can to sell tickets at this point to fill up their
- 31:47stadium just because the team was no longer in a playoff hunt.
- 31:51So, you know, I I don't know how teams like a, you know, the Dolphins even, you know, stay in
- 31:58the league without the the money share.
- 32:00Right?
- 32:01Yeah.
- 32:02It's kind of keeping the bad teams afloat.
- 32:05Yeah.
- 32:06The wolves, I mean, you you you get used to, you know, playoff seasons, successful seasons,
- 32:1310 plus win seasons.
- 32:15And, you know, those home games, you're racking in money, you're able to charge top dollar,
- 32:22because you, you know, you have superstars like Jefferson.
- 32:25You're having a good team, good record, you know, it's exciting football.
- 32:30And then, you know, maybe a playoff game that's just added revenue, exposure to your brand
- 32:38throughout the year.
- 32:39And then when it all turns, for the worst, you know, to us, it might not seem like a lot of
- 32:47money, but they're losing a lot of money right now.
- 32:51That's and then, you know, it is what it is, but I think it's a good decent gesture by the
- 32:57wealths, you know, cutting prices to the tickets like they have been, you know, making
- 33:02it possible for people to, know, experience a Vikings game that they might not have had the
- 33:09chance to do.
- 33:11Yeah.
- 33:12Any anything else you wanna cover on this game, before we move on to our pregame section?
- 33:18We
- 33:19got out of there.
- 33:20We got lucky.
- 33:22That's it.
- 33:22Even an ugly win is a win, coach.
- 33:25And this team still has a chance to win double digit games.
- 33:28Like, if you would have said that four weeks ago.
- 33:31Right?
- 33:32Like, what?
- 33:33Yeah.
- 33:34It didn't look it didn't look good.
- 33:35It didn't look good.
- 33:37You know?
- 33:37And we were able to you know, the Giants and the Washington Redskins, they're there's, you
- 33:43know, all respect to them, but they're lower, you know, in the standings.
- 33:49But we had to win that game, and we had to find any way possible to win that game.
- 33:55So we did.
- 33:57That's that's huge.
- 33:59That is all that matters.
- 34:02Hey.
- 34:02Appreciate you, Paul.
- 34:04That's my buddy Paul Schlothauge.
- 34:05He's helped us out with, some editing.
- 34:07What up, Paul?
- 34:08I I know he's gonna be helping us out as as this show continues to grow and move on.
- 34:13So a merry Christmas to you as well, Paul.
- 34:15Thanks for tuning in.
- 34:17We're gonna roll a a little bit here.
- 34:19We're gonna get started on our pregame show.
- 34:22So, pull it back here, give myself a little bit of a break.
- 34:26I need to reset.
- 34:27I need to let this Giants game go and get in the mode to start talking about this game
- 34:32coming up on Christmas day.
- 34:34So we'll be right back with our pregame coverage.
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- 38:39And welcome back now moving into our pregame coverage.
- 38:44Christmas day, Vikings, Lions at US Bank Stadium, fired up for this one.
- 38:51Like, you know, you still wanna win.
- 38:54I think a lot of people looking at the way winning this game can affect the schedule for
- 39:00next year or it can affect draft stock.
- 39:02I don't know the draft is as much of a thing as, beating the lions can definitely affect the
- 39:08way that the schedule looks, at least right now looking at, you know, the third and fourth
- 39:13place, the difference between the third and fourth place schedule.
- 39:16So a lot on the line here.
- 39:18I think, there's a definitely a contingent of the fan base that, is kind of hoping that the
- 39:25game isn't awful, but you don't come out victorious.
- 39:29I am not of the I don't have it in me to root for a team to lose.
- 39:34Right?
- 39:34Like, I don't wanna watch my team lose ever.
- 39:37Coach, can you talk about from a locker room and culture standpoint of, like, culture is
- 39:43everything, and that's what you're trying to build here.
- 39:46You don't ever want it in the locker room that these guys are thinking about, you know, what
- 39:52this has for next year.
- 39:54Right?
- 39:56No.
- 39:56Not at all.
- 39:58You know, it it's inevitable that people are going to anyway, so you just try to minimize
- 40:04it, and try to make it as less of a distraction.
- 40:09I am in the same boat kinda sorta.
- 40:13You know?
- 40:14As as a coach, I you know, I'm going for the dub.
- 40:17I'm going for the win a 100%, as a fan and a you know, if I'm thinking about it from a, you
- 40:27know, like, a higher top management spot, Wilkes and, Quasi, You know, you the the the
- 40:38Detroit Lions and the Green Bay Packers are still in the hunt for the playoffs.
- 40:45I just as a Viking fan, you know, do you lose the game?
- 40:50Do you rest your starters?
- 40:51Like, you're already planning on resting Justin Jefferson or JJ McCarthy.
- 40:56You know, you're resting some of the offensive line.
- 40:59Do you shut it down and see what you have depth wise to help you make decisions for the off
- 41:07season and making cuts?
- 41:10You know?
- 41:10And if you win, you're just helping out the packers, and that's just something as a fan I
- 41:15can't get behind one bit.
- 41:20I feel you there.
- 41:21Yeah, man.
- 41:22That was the easy part about transitioning from rooting for one NFC North team for most of my
- 41:29life to donning the purple and gold or the purple and white now.
- 41:34And it's gonna be the Whiteout game on Christmas Day, which I was at we were at the
- 41:38Whiteout game last year on Monday night football, and what a fucking experience, man.
- 41:44It was so incredible.
- 41:46Everybody dressed up.
- 41:48Obviously, we've had Sir Picasso on several times now.
- 41:50He's also Darth Viking.
- 41:53And so to see him in the all white Vader and everybody dressed up, it's just so cool, man.
- 41:59What a great look.
- 42:00So gonna be a ton of fun out there regardless.
- 42:04I think it makes it hurt, like, a little bit less.
- 42:06And now that JJ is not playing, and and no offense to Max Broesper, I mean, he's an
- 42:12undrafted rookie for a reason.
- 42:14The expectations aren't very high for him.
- 42:17Detroit just lost that crazy game at home against the Steelers.
- 42:22That final play was totally fucking open.
- 42:25I've never seen anything like that.
- 42:27It was, yeah.
- 42:29My wife said it was awesome.
- 42:30It was an incredible, experience.
- 42:33And, yeah, I can't talk enough good things.
- 42:36Kind of unfortunate this year that it was on, Christmas Day because that poses so many
- 42:40challenges for a lot of families, right, to get there.
- 42:44And that
- 42:44team just kind of out of it.
- 42:45I know a lot of our VWO friends, actually did some giveaways with their tickets, and got some
- 42:52single parents out there into the seats.
- 42:54So that's really cool.
- 42:55Shout out to sir Death and and a lot of our other VWO crew that that did that and got some
- 43:02really great seats in one forty out to some incredibly deserving parents out there.
- 43:09But, I mean, this Detroit team, this is a must win game for them to even stay in the hunt yet.
- 43:13They're not in a playoff spot right now.
- 43:15They have to win.
- 43:17And we have a chance to really kind of end their season for a team that, you know, we
- 43:26kinda owe one to a little bit.
- 43:30Yeah.
- 43:31I mean, it it's it's tough because it's you know, who whose season do you wanna end, you
- 43:37know, when it comes down to it?
- 43:38If we if we lose this one and we help out the the lions, you know, it's also helping out our
- 43:45draft position, which I know a bunch of fans have been eyeing up since probably week five,
- 43:51week six.
- 43:54But, you know, this this Lions team both the Lions and the Packers need to win out, and
- 44:01they, you know, both obviously need help, the other team losing.
- 44:07I I feel like even with Brozmer.
- 44:10Brozmer, he kinda opened up my eyes, last week coming in relief.
- 44:15You know, the game wasn't won.
- 44:17We'd still had to he still had to lead the team down there.
- 44:20It comes in for Justin or for JJ McCarthy, and for his drive has a third and 10 and is able to
- 44:30hit Jefferson for 11 yards.
- 44:33Was able to, you know, pass make throws down the field and get it to the you know, not only
- 44:39make throws down the field, but get it to Jefferson.
- 44:42And that's what you need to do in big moments like that.
- 44:45I know third down, you know, long down in distance, when you need to play, get it to the
- 44:51playmaker, and that's what he was able to do.
- 44:53He showed a little bit of, you know, promise.
- 44:56And so I just hope it's not anything like the Seattle game.
- 45:01That's all I want.
- 45:02I win would be nice.
- 45:05Let's get four in a row, but just look better than you did your first start.
- 45:12You know?
- 45:12Yeah.
- 45:13You're an undrafted rookie.
- 45:15You know, not a lot of expectation because of, you know, not being drafted, but, you know,
- 45:23just show us a night and day difference between your first start and your second start, not
- 45:30only for us and the team, but for, himself.
- 45:34If he wants to stay on this team, any and be relevant at all, even as a backup or a third
- 45:40strike.
- 45:45Yeah.
- 45:46Well and the team looks a lot different now.
- 45:48Right?
- 45:48Your play caller, is going to treat this game a lot differently than he did.
- 45:52I I think, KOC kinda had his come to Jesus moment.
- 45:57You know, no pun intended here at Christmas time.
- 46:01But he had it after that Seattle game, right, where it made it quite evident that, like, hey,
- 46:08buddy.
- 46:09Look.
- 46:09Regardless of who's been in a quarterback, you've kinda sucked.
- 46:12You know?
- 46:13And so I I think the team looks different.
- 46:17We have, you know, all your number one fans in the building.
- 46:21What up, girl?
- 46:22Thanks, man.
- 46:22What up?
- 46:23That's cool.
- 46:23Appreciate you.
- 46:25We have you know, it's gonna be a little bit different look.
- 46:30And this Detroit team, they're I mean, they're banged up too.
- 46:33We're gonna get into that in in our keys to the game, but they need this one.
- 46:37And I feel like they're gonna be, maybe a little bit more motivated, because they don't
- 46:43wanna go from first to worst.
- 46:46Right?
- 46:46A lot of teams kinda make that out of the bears this year in the NFC North have gone from, you
- 46:50know, the fourth place team to potentially clinching the division, I think, with a win
- 46:55this week.
- 46:56So you don't wanna go the opposite way.
- 47:00And I think a lot of people are stunned by what the Vikings have done here the last they looked
- 47:04like we were gonna be the basement dwellers regardless, especially after, you know, week
- 47:09eight, week nine, and how things were were trending.
- 47:13And now you find yourself in a position where, you know, the big difference right now isn't
- 47:19draft position necessarily.
- 47:21It is definitely in the scheduling for next year playing the fourth place teams out of in
- 47:27your out of conference games or playing the third place teams.
- 47:31And and the teams that you're looking because we already know, you know, what teams that will
- 47:36be in those positions and how things are shaking out is, you know, a a difference
- 47:40between playing some really bad, traditionally bad football teams or playing some, you know,
- 47:47teams that are traditionally good but just maybe had a bad year.
- 47:51Right?
- 47:52The NFC West, I think, is one of, you know, one of its conferences next year and, or, you know,
- 47:58out of division games in conference that you could be playing a third place San Francisco
- 48:0549ers team or playing the Arizona Cardinals.
- 48:09Right?
- 48:09And I think that was kinda that's one of the big ones to kinda circle right at this moment,
- 48:15but you don't know what those teams are going to be from year to year either injuries and
- 48:21when you play them in the season.
- 48:22So I don't like to put a lot of stock in that.
- 48:25I think you still have so much to show with the culture of your team.
- 48:30Now is it going to maybe sting a little less if this or, you know, this game goes kind of, you
- 48:35know, into the fourth quarter?
- 48:36It's been close, and then maybe Detroit pulls away, wins by a a touchdown or, you know,
- 48:42between, you know, five to 10 points, right, where it didn't feel like a blowout.
- 48:46They pulled it away at the end.
- 48:48Does it then, like, sting a little bit less?
- 48:50I think that's okay.
- 48:52Right?
- 48:52But I don't wanna watch this team just go out and lay down and get the brakes beat off them
- 48:56on Christmas day.
- 48:57That's not how I wanna spend my Christmas,
- 48:59to be perfectly honest.
- 49:01Yeah.
- 49:02No.
- 49:02Definitely definitely not lay down.
- 49:05I think, you know, you made up the good point.
- 49:07Just going out there even if, you know, we're losing by, like you said, a touchdown, a field
- 49:12goal, whatever it may be, just one score game, but just make it enjoyable.
- 49:17Make it entertaining.
- 49:19Just make it a game, especially for Christmas.
- 49:23We can't Seattle thing.
- 49:25Especially on Christmas, it's gonna we're gonna be, like, laughing stock.
- 49:29Oh, yeah.
- 49:30We've done that enough already this year.
- 49:31Like, we Yeah.
- 49:32We've had enough of that.
- 49:34Alright, coach.
- 49:35Let's get into the keys to the game.
- 49:37You sent them to me a few hours ago.
- 49:38I managed to get the graphics done.
- 49:42Every week, coach Cody gives me three keys that he thinks are gonna be keys to the Vikings
- 49:47winning even if we don't really want that to happen.
- 49:50We're still gonna pretend that we're trying to win every game.
- 49:53So exploited Detroit's injured and then secondary, just looking at their injury report
- 49:59for this week, it is long.
- 50:02Ours isn't great either, just to be perfectly honest.
- 50:04Slow down the lions run game, which with that two headed monster back there, is gonna be
- 50:09tough.
- 50:10And make golf one dimensional as we kinda saw if you were watching that Steelers Detroit
- 50:16game.
- 50:17This this offense looks a lot different than last year.
- 50:20So and then playing smart and disciplined football against the Dan Campbell chaos, which
- 50:26there's still no lack of that.
- 50:28That is very much the same this year as last, but let's talk about this Detroit secondary.
- 50:35I'm gonna let you go ahead and talk a little bit.
- 50:37I'm actually gonna bring up their the injury reports while you're doing that.
- 50:41Yeah.
- 50:41Yeah.
- 50:41I do think.
- 50:44I mean, Detroit, first of all, just that game I I just wanna comment real quick.
- 50:51That game against the Steelers, that would that ending was crazy, absolutely crazy.
- 50:58They are like I said, they're still in the hunt for the playoffs.
- 51:02After a game like that, they're gonna be hungry hungry for a win.
- 51:07So we gotta be on our toes.
- 51:09But regardless, this this Detroit team, they're hurt.
- 51:14They are hurt.
- 51:15No.
- 51:17No.
- 51:17This is no joke.
- 51:18These guys, you know, they lost LaPora, they're tight end.
- 51:26They've been losing people left and right on the offensive line.
- 51:29Two, they had to bring back, old veteran Dan Skipper.
- 51:34Shout out to him.
- 51:36Let's see.
- 51:37Their secondary has been taking a huge hit.
- 51:40Yeah.
- 51:41They have playmakers like Aidan Hutchinson, Ann Zaloney, but, their back end, their corners and
- 51:48safeties are just they're dropping like flies quicker than they can get them in the building,
- 51:53it seems like.
- 51:55And because and especially at the safety position.
- 51:58And because of that, they've been given up a ton of explosive plays, a ton of a ton of them.
- 52:06When the safeties I don't know why the Detroit lines have done this, but and not made an
- 52:13adjustment.
- 52:14But when I'm telling you right now, look forward in the game.
- 52:17When the safeties deep and just too too high deep safeties, if we don't run the ball, I'm
- 52:24gonna be extremely upset.
- 52:26Like, there's a weakness right there.
- 52:30But with with that, those injuries, you know, lining up, in the back or with the cornerbacks
- 52:37and DBs, I mean, there's no reason why our wide receivers can't do any any type of damage
- 52:44whatsoever as long as Brosmer can get them the ball.
- 52:49They actually lost another one.
- 52:51I don't know if he is still on the injured or or, like, the injury list, but, safety, Avante
- 52:58Maddox, he ended up actually getting pulled mid game, mid play.
- 53:03They had stopped the game and bring him into the blue tent, probably for a concussion.
- 53:07So that's just not
- 53:08He was listed as a cornerback, but he did not participate in Monday or Tuesday's practice.
- 53:13So Yeah.
- 53:14Okay.
- 53:14Yeah.
- 53:14He's trending in the wrong direction.
- 53:16Another surprise on there, and it's just due to illness, but, David Montgomery didn't
- 53:21participate in practice today either.
- 53:23So if he's still a little under the weather depending on what it is, you know, the flu can
- 53:29kind of keep a guy out.
- 53:31But even if it doesn't keep him out of the game, could be something that, you know, limits
- 53:36his usage at least.
- 53:38And he's a big part of that rushing attack.
- 53:41Mhmm.
- 53:41Yeah.
- 53:42No.
- 53:42Absolutely.
- 53:44And Spoken Jar here.
- 53:45He's, he's part of the, NFC North, trash talk cave, another tech
- 53:51Yeah.
- 53:52Yeah.
- 53:52You take care.
- 53:53Send me send me a message on Facebook.
- 53:56If you got me over there, send me a message.
- 53:59I'll send you the link, man.
- 54:00Shoot me shoot me a DM.
- 54:01And if you wanna come on for a few minutes and share, towards the end of the show, we'd love
- 54:05to have you, man.
- 54:07They that was cray the run game, the Steelers were getting messed up.
- 54:11And a lot of it was because they were able to get to that second and third level of the defa
- 54:15and there was just nobody back there to to stop them.
- 54:18Right?
- 54:18That that Steelers' rushing attack really took advantage.
- 54:22And it seemed like towards the end of the game, and that must have been after Maddox got pulled
- 54:25out, and you're putting people back there, you know, with a little bit less experience because
- 54:31and coach, you know this as a defensive back coach.
- 54:34It only takes one wrong step there at a safety position.
- 54:38If you get sucked a little too far inside and you're that last line of defense, like so these
- 54:43these NFL running backs, man, they're gone.
- 54:45So it's not just in the pass game that it can be an issue.
- 54:49It can be in that run game as well and maybe missing a bit in that run game because you have
- 54:54a little bit less experience back there.
- 54:57Yeah.
- 54:58Yeah.
- 54:58No.
- 54:59You know, if we can foresee safeties into making tough decisions, it's gonna be I feel
- 55:05like it's gonna be a tough one.
- 55:09I want I I they do have one corner that's up and coming.
- 55:15Number 23, I I think it's Rock Yassine.
- 55:19But he he's been a like, one of the only bright spots, playing you know, coming in to you know,
- 55:27and being that next man up.
- 55:29He's been making plays.
- 55:31So they have some people, you know, coming in for depth and actually providing depth.
- 55:39So, as long as we, I guess, take calculated shots, I I don't think we're gonna take many
- 55:48with Brosemer, but who knows?
- 55:50We we gotta keep on guessing a little bit.
- 55:53So maybe one or two.
- 55:54Brosemer doesn't have a good arm.
- 55:57Right?
- 55:57You saw him throw that deep out to Jefferson.
- 56:00You you don't make that throw without an NFL arm talent.
- 56:04Now I I think it's a lot of other things.
- 56:06I don't think he's as good of an athlete as a JJ McCarthy.
- 56:09He's he's not as big.
- 56:11He's not, you know, just, like, in stature.
- 56:14Right?
- 56:14But he's got an NFL caliber arm.
- 56:16So I wouldn't be surprised if they try to take advantage of that a little bit and to try to
- 56:21hit some of these deep shots early and, yeah, get out there.
- 56:26And I know you know what?
- 56:27I was just looking at the injury report for the Vikings too, and it's it's long.
- 56:32So Hawkinson with the shoulder did not participate in Monday or Tuesday's practice.
- 56:37Ryan Kelly, I'm a assume he's out concussion, did not participate Monday or Tuesday.
- 56:42Jordan Mason did not participate in Monday or Tuesday's practice, and, obviously, we talked
- 56:46about McCarthy already being ruled out.
- 56:49Ryan O'Neil limited Tuesday.
- 56:51Aaron Jones limited both Monday and Tuesday.
- 56:55And Ty Chandler, unfortunately, went on the injured list, but he was a full participant
- 57:00both Monday and Tuesday.
- 57:02So, I mean, you're probably gonna see quite a bit of Ty Chandler, I would assume, and maybe
- 57:07some tricky things back there to get maybe some of these speedy wide receivers, a nailer.
- 57:12And I I know we got Ty Fulton back there.
- 57:14Maybe you're seeing a little bit more of that.
- 57:16I'm taking some pages out of Dan Campbell's book and throwing some of the trick plays.
- 57:20Hey.
- 57:21Maybe we'll see the flea flicker this week.
- 57:25Beal made his Christmas wish.
- 57:28At least it's at least one thing come true.
- 57:30We can hope for that.
- 57:32That's for sure.
- 57:33Awesome, man.
- 57:35Well, I think we covered the secondary, pretty good here.
- 57:37Let's move on to key two.
- 57:41Slowing down the run game.
- 57:43Make off one dimensional.
- 57:46And now this is tricky.
- 57:49They they have an explosive offense.
- 57:53You know, Aman Ross, St.
- 57:54Brown, Jameson Williams, you know, as a wide receivers.
- 57:58They got this young guy, Isaac Tesla, and it seems like this dude, all he does is catch
- 58:03touchdowns.
- 58:04So, you know, even with La Porta out, they have, the weapons on the outside.
- 58:11Montgomery and Gibbs, like you mentioned, if Montgomery doesn't play, that helps us out a
- 58:17lot, but you still gotta stop Gibbs, and that is a very tough thing to do.
- 58:22You cannot you can't it's almost you can't stop and you just try to contain them.
- 58:27And so, you know, with Detroit having a loaded offense, if you they love their running game.
- 58:36With two running backs like that, you know, you're gonna lean off of it, and then that's
- 58:41when Ahmad Ross St.
- 58:43Brown makes his money.
- 58:46If we can get if we can stop their running game, limit the limit the damage that these two
- 58:51star running backs can do and make Goff throw yeah.
- 58:56Goff is a veteran quarterback, you know, above average.
- 59:01Anybody would like to have him.
- 59:03He isn't he isn't fast or mobile at all.
- 59:09He's just gonna stand there like Brady.
- 59:11That's why you always take the under on his rushing yards.
- 59:16But
- 59:17Yeah.
- 59:18Even if it's zero, take the hammer the under.
- 59:21Even if it's zero, take the under.
- 59:24But, yeah, if if the Viking the Vikings must take away the run early, force Gough to beat
- 59:29them consistently through the air with injuries along deep the Detroit offensive line, La Porta
- 59:35out, this is a moment to attack them.
- 59:38If you can get pressure in the middle, you know, big boys, Allen and Hargrave, you gotta
- 59:46show up today because if you get pressure in the middle, he's not gonna be able to beat you
- 59:50on the outside and escape.
- 59:52So this could be a big big, big, opportunity for the defense and for Flores.
- 59:58Right.
- 59:58And Hargrave limited participant in, in the last two practices as well.
- 1:00:04Jer, I see you backstage.
- 1:00:05We're gonna get through the rest of our keys, and then we'll bring you in, man.
- 1:00:08Appreciate you tapping in with us tonight.
- 1:00:10Looking forward to talking with you and getting to bring you onto the show.
- 1:00:14Yeah.
- 1:00:14I mean, you you said it.
- 1:00:16Montgomery, even if he plays, if he's been sick all week, that is going to be a that's gonna be
- 1:00:24something to watch.
- 1:00:25Right?
- 1:00:26Because he's going to be a little bit hobbled regardless.
- 1:00:29So we'll kinda wait and see what what becomes of that.
- 1:00:34But
- 1:00:36Basically there's
- 1:00:37no telling.
- 1:00:38If we, you know, win stop the run, win on early downs, and get Detroit behind schedule, for
- 1:00:46their play calls, make it harder for Dan Campbell to empty the playbook to dig in his
- 1:00:52bag and, you know, pull out some tricks and hit us with it.
- 1:00:57Well and it plays into this Vikings team and what they do well.
- 1:01:01When you're able to stop that run and you can get the, you know, Dallas Turner and Van Ginkle
- 1:01:08and, you know, this defense coming with the pressure and getting after a not mobile
- 1:01:13quarterback.
- 1:01:13Right?
- 1:01:14I mean, they got to Jackson Dart who's one I mean, he's doesn't have a lot of experience,
- 1:01:18but the kid can move around back there and make some things happen with his legs.
- 1:01:21You do not have that with Jared Goff at all.
- 1:01:24So if this defense can dial up the pressure because you have them in the third and long
- 1:01:29situations in which we excel, we can really do some damage against this and keep a young
- 1:01:34quarterback on the other side of the field with Max Brosmer in the game long enough to
- 1:01:40hopefully make a couple of plays.
- 1:01:42I mean, this this game's gonna come down.
- 1:01:44I don't know what the spreads are right now.
- 1:01:46I haven't checked, and maybe Jared pays a little bit more attention to, the gambling
- 1:01:50side.
- 1:01:50I don't have any money, so I'm not doing a whole lot of gambling.
- 1:01:53I'm not paying attention to those things.
- 1:01:55But, that, it's gonna come down.
- 1:01:58It's a division game.
- 1:01:59I don't see it, you know, being more than a five point game.
- 1:02:04Right?
- 1:02:04Less than a touchdown, I I think is what this comes down to, unless something crazy happens
- 1:02:09and they're able to force some mistakes out of Max Brozmer down the stretch.
- 1:02:14Oh, and, like, we brought up a few weeks ago, you know, for KOC, big keys for the the game
- 1:02:21was to sustain drives.
- 1:02:23You know, we we cannot be going three and out in general, but with Bretton with Max Brosmer,
- 1:02:30we cannot go three and out at all.
- 1:02:32We have to at least,
- 1:02:36we just stick two
- 1:02:37or three times.
- 1:02:38To 19 play drives.
- 1:02:40Yeah.
- 1:02:41If if
- 1:02:41running the ball We have to.
- 1:02:43Four stones.
- 1:02:44Gotta have.
- 1:02:44If we have to, you know, and Brosmer, like I said, you know, he he showed a little bit of
- 1:02:51something to me last week, you know, just coming in and not only holding on, but giving
- 1:02:57us a position to get that late field goal.
- 1:02:59So we'll see what happens.
- 1:03:02Yeah.
- 1:03:02Game winning drive, man.
- 1:03:04Hey.
- 1:03:05I I He got
- 1:03:05one on his record now.
- 1:03:07I've been telling people, I'm like, that wind didn't go to JJ.
- 1:03:10He might have started the game, but we last time I checked, we were tied when he left.
- 1:03:14Yep.
- 1:03:15Yeah.
- 1:03:17Alright.
- 1:03:19Key three, coach.
- 1:03:20Play smart.
- 1:03:21Disciplined football.
- 1:03:23We talked about the chaos that Dan Campbell likes to bring in really all points of the
- 1:03:29game, and and we're gonna get Jer on to talk about that kneecap biting Jer.
- 1:03:34He was bring Dan Campbell was bringing chaos to the team before he ever stepped onto the
- 1:03:39sideline.
- 1:03:40Yeah.
- 1:03:41He you cannot predict this guy.
- 1:03:46He does unorthodox things, but, it works out for him.
- 1:03:53And, you know, I mean, if it works, keep it going.
- 1:03:57He'll go for it on fourth down.
- 1:03:58It doesn't matter matter where he is on the field.
- 1:04:01Doesn't matter what time in the game it is, early or not.
- 1:04:04He'll dial up the trick plays like nothing.
- 1:04:06And that, you know, that'll test our defense and our discipline, and just staying in the
- 1:04:14right spots, not trying to, you know, beat and always make that huge play, but just playing
- 1:04:22within the system.
- 1:04:24Because if you don't, it it it can turn ugly and embarrassing really, really quick.
- 1:04:30The Vikings gotta stay assignment sound, play smart football, communicate on, you know, any
- 1:04:38motions, misdirections, trick plays.
- 1:04:41We gotta make tackles in space.
- 1:04:44It's been a kind of an issue, missed tackles, making me puke.
- 1:04:50And on the offense
- 1:04:51fierce, man, with the speed that he brings, you gotta take him down on first contact because if
- 1:04:57he gets loose, he's gone.
- 1:05:00Yeah.
- 1:05:00He's gone.
- 1:05:00Yeah.
- 1:05:01A quick twitch, and then he's got that, speed.
- 1:05:04You know, he can stop and start, and it almost looks like he doesn't lose any speed doing it.
- 1:05:10It's that quick.
- 1:05:11Yeah.
- 1:05:11That quick, he's a fairy tale of the player.
- 1:05:13This team is on a historic pace right now.
- 1:05:16This defense, especially, is performing at a high level.
- 1:05:19Now granted the opponents some of the opponents the last few weeks, but what is it they have
- 1:05:24not allowed a passing touchdown in, six games?
- 1:05:29I guess I'm not I don't know for sure.
- 1:05:33But
- 1:05:33No.
- 1:05:33I I would have to look it up, and I might do that when Jer when Jer jumps on with us here in
- 1:05:38a minute.
- 1:05:38But, yeah, I mean, you you have to play fundamental football with a team that's going
- 1:05:46to try to create chaos with the trick plays, with the misdirection, and you just have to not
- 1:05:52bite on that and not let it get you.
- 1:05:54Make some stops on third and fourth down for crying out loud with this team.
- 1:05:59Make a damn stop on third down on third and long, please.
- 1:06:04Please.
- 1:06:05Yeah.
- 1:06:06Well and if I feel like the defense is has to come, and they gotta show up at play.
- 1:06:15Getting off the field is gonna be crucial for them as well, just because if it doesn't go
- 1:06:21well on offense, they're gonna be out there a long time.
- 1:06:24So they gotta take their opportunities when they can and just make plays, get off the
- 1:06:29field, get it back to the offense.
- 1:06:31Give us more time to score.
- 1:06:32But even if they're just field goals all all day, whatever.
- 1:06:37You know, Will Rikert, he'll kick it from Yucatan, like I said, a few weeks ago.
- 1:06:41So we got no problems.
- 1:06:45Let's see.
- 1:06:45On offense, you know, Max Brosmer, he gets his second start.
- 1:06:50Let's see how he builds off of last week.
- 1:06:54You know?
- 1:06:55Well, and he's gotta look for this man.
- 1:06:56Let's just let's buy me we said we're gonna keep him there, and I we weren't joking.
- 1:07:02No.
- 1:07:03No joke at all.
- 1:07:04One man for the job this week.
- 1:07:06Well and who who else would we rather pick than Justin Jefferson?
- 1:07:12You know, he's basically the only exciting thing happening for this team, even with him
- 1:07:20having a below average, you know, under par season.
- 1:07:25But, I mean, this has gotta be the player to watch.
- 1:07:28We he's still got, you know, a couple milestones to go to break records.
- 1:07:34So not everything is lost this season.
- 1:07:38You know, like I mentioned, he's 83 yards away from 1,000 yard season.
- 1:07:44So let's get that.
- 1:07:45Let's just get it done this week.
- 1:07:48You know, I don't want I don't wanna have to sweat the thousand yards for the last game.
- 1:07:54And then he's 27 yards away from breaking Rainy Rainy Moss' record for most receiving yards in
- 1:08:01a player's first six seasons.
- 1:08:03So let's get it.
- 1:08:05I mean, this line's secondary, like I said
- 1:08:07in the first half and then you can shut them down the rest of the year.
- 1:08:10I don't even care.
- 1:08:12Yes.
- 1:08:12Yeah.
- 1:08:12Absolutely.
- 1:08:14Yeah.
- 1:08:14That would be perfectly fine with me.
- 1:08:17Get Ty Felton out there.
- 1:08:19But against like I said, against this line secondary, Jefferson should be featured early
- 1:08:24and often like he was last week.
- 1:08:26Get him touches any way possible.
- 1:08:28Like like also, motion, quick hitters, deep shots.
- 1:08:32It's just you any I don't even care how you do it.
- 1:08:37If there's slants or curls all day, 10 curls, seven slants.
- 1:08:42Just get them the 85 yards, 83 yards.
- 1:08:44Let's get them some.
- 1:08:45Let's get the record and finish it.
- 1:08:48Yeah.
- 1:08:48And you were able to do that last week.
- 1:08:50So just get it done, and then you
- 1:08:51can kind of
- 1:08:52address what you wanna do against Green Bay in the final game of the season after that.
- 1:08:57Awesome.
- 1:08:58Coach, I want you to talk about your tryouts and everything you got coming up on Sunday
- 1:09:02since we're gonna get a chance to do that, and then we're gonna ring Jared here and talk a
- 1:09:05little bit about it.
- 1:09:06But you got some tryouts happening this week up in the Minneapolis area.
- 1:09:11Chance for some young ball players to continue their careers.
- 1:09:14Tell us all about it.
- 1:09:16Yeah.
- 1:09:17For those who are just tuning in for the first time and don't know much about me, my name is
- 1:09:23Cody Hamadall, coach Hamadall.
- 1:09:25I am the assistant head coach and defensive coordinator for the Wyoming cavalry.
- 1:09:30We'll be playing out of Gillette, Wyoming in the AIF, the American Indoor Football League.
- 1:09:37And this is my first season with the team, second season as a professional coach on the
- 1:09:42arena level.
- 1:09:44And we got tryouts, our first tryouts for this upcoming season, this Sunday, December 28, 10PM
- 1:09:51to one or 10AM to 1PM at the Toka Soccer Center in Burnsville.
- 1:09:56You know, I'm looking for all players.
- 1:09:59You don't even just have to be from Minnesota.
- 1:10:02The defense is gonna live and be housed here in Minnesota, and then we'll travel out there.
- 1:10:06So, you know, just if you got game, if you're if you think you're a dog and you're not gonna
- 1:10:13shy away from competition, come on out.
- 1:10:15Show me what you got.
- 1:10:16You gotta show me.
- 1:10:17You gotta see me in person, and, you know, we'll evaluate and get the best players out
- 1:10:22there.
- 1:10:22And we're gonna go out to Wyoming and bring them a a ring.
- 1:10:26I'm going for the second one in one year, calendar year.
- 1:10:32Absolutely love it, coach.
- 1:10:33Well, yeah, glad that we can give you a little bit of platform to talk about the tryouts and
- 1:10:37talk about
- 1:10:37the way we're doing
- 1:10:38the cavalry.
- 1:10:39Looking forward to covering that team with you.
- 1:10:41But now I wanna bring in, our our guy, Smokin' Jer.
- 1:10:45Jer, welcome to the show, man.
- 1:10:48Hey.
- 1:10:48Glad to be here.
- 1:10:49Love talking football, period.
- 1:10:51How are doing, man?
- 1:10:52Happy holidays.
- 1:10:54Happy holidays.
- 1:10:55Merry Christmas.
- 1:10:55We get to watch each other on Christmas day.
- 1:10:57Neither of our team can make the playoff, but all we can do is beat the crap out of each
- 1:11:01other.
- 1:11:05Yeah.
- 1:11:05We
- 1:11:05hope it's, we hope that, no injuries here.
- 1:11:08I think at towards the end of these seasons, we hope that you don't see any big injuries from
- 1:11:13your best players.
- 1:11:14That's why we're even considering talking about shutting Jefferson down.
- 1:11:18Right?
- 1:11:18You want them to get these yards and kinda break those personal accolades because they do
- 1:11:23matter.
- 1:11:23Right?
- 1:11:24The this man is building a hall of fame resume.
- 1:11:27You don't want to tarnish that in any way.
- 1:11:30But, also, if he's kind of got that in the bag and you're going into a essentially meaningless
- 1:11:35game in week eighteen, there's no reason to risk your franchise on it.
- 1:11:42There's no reason to sit him when you're playing the packers?
- 1:11:46Well, wait.
- 1:11:46It depends on how Max plays this.
- 1:11:48No.
- 1:11:49No.
- 1:11:50No.
- 1:11:50If you're not gonna set him We are setting John
- 1:11:53Wolford against the packers in week eighteen.
- 1:11:57They can set Jefferson all they want to.
- 1:11:59But, you know, if Max goes out and plays well this week, it'll really speak to what they try
- 1:12:04to do.
- 1:12:05Do they wanna play spoiler?
- 1:12:06And me and coach talked about it earlier in the show that none of these guys, it's just not the
- 1:12:11culture around this Vikings team to lay down.
- 1:12:14I know, you know, around some really bad teams, the Browns or, you know, any pick pick a
- 1:12:19terrible franchise.
- 1:12:20Arizona right now is god awful.
- 1:12:22Right?
- 1:12:23You probably have a culture in that locker room that does that.
- 1:12:27I don't think you have that with this Vikings team because if you did, they would have laid
- 1:12:31down three weeks ago.
- 1:12:32Right?
- 1:12:32Or at least two weeks ago in Dallas, they didn't have to show up on Sunday night.
- 1:12:36They were already mathematically eliminated.
- 1:12:39So and and I know you're
- 1:12:40challenge there.
- 1:12:41You know, you
- 1:12:41guys are are you mathematically eliminated now, Jer?
- 1:12:44Is that what you're you're saying, or are they you still got
- 1:12:47Pretty much.
- 1:12:47I mean, it it's like a a a 7% chance.
- 1:12:50And what would have to happen is we have to win out.
- 1:12:53Hackers have to lose out.
- 1:12:55That's what it all boils down to.
- 1:12:57Because right now, they have one more game.
- 1:12:59So they can't win a tenth game because they have to tie, plus they beat.
- 1:13:04So
- 1:13:05Right.
- 1:13:05So the the betting line, because I heard you asked, so I looked it up on FanDuel.
- 1:13:10Thank you.
- 1:13:11The lions are seven and a half point favorites, and the over under is 43.5.
- 1:13:18Wow.
- 1:13:19Seven and a half.
- 1:13:20I mean, I think I'm still hammering Vikings the cover.
- 1:13:24I don't know if I'm picking Vikings to win this week.
- 1:13:27Moneyline, would the gross mark?
- 1:13:29Moneyline, it's minus three ninety for the lions and plus three ten for the vikings.
- 1:13:34So, basically, for every $10, you're you bet you'll make three.
- 1:13:39You know what I'm saying on the vikings?
- 1:13:41And you'll for every so it'd be 13 you'd get back.
- 1:13:45You know what I'm saying?
- 1:13:46Whereas if you bet on the or you're 13 on top of your bet, so it'd be 23 you'd get back.
- 1:13:52With the lions, you would actually only get 17 total.
- 1:14:00Right.
- 1:14:00If you win
- 1:14:01that, Jared.
- 1:14:02Thanks for explaining that because I don't know what the hell any of that means.
- 1:14:05We're gonna have to bring you on every week to be our betting expert.
- 1:14:08Yeah.
- 1:14:08Yeah.
- 1:14:09That that plus minus gets me.
- 1:14:12The the that's what the money line means.
- 1:14:13That's a straight up bet.
- 1:14:14And that's how yeah.
- 1:14:15On Wednesdays when I do my NFL show, we actually
- 1:14:19Cody only speaks in wins and losses, man.
- 1:14:22Yeah.
- 1:14:23I I do that.
- 1:14:24I do the wins and losses every week for the entire schedule on my Wednesday night show.
- 1:14:28I invite fans of other teams, and I don't care if they're in the division.
- 1:14:32I've got Ken the bear fan and Ken Catalone on there.
- 1:14:35I've had a couple Vikings fans before.
- 1:14:38I've had Patriot fans, Bills fans.
- 1:14:41I don't care.
- 1:14:42It's about having fun and talking about NFL news.
- 1:14:45And we go through the entire schedule and do the pick ups, and my record so far this year
- 1:14:50is, like, one thirty seven and ninety two.
- 1:14:56Hey.
- 1:14:56That's pretty damn good, man.
- 1:14:58Go crazy.
- 1:15:00Yeah.
- 1:15:00I'm better than 50%.
- 1:15:02That's all I care about.
- 1:15:03I don't wanna end the year at 50%.
- 1:15:05Almost batting you're batting, like, six fifty, man.
- 1:15:08Just
- 1:15:08waking up in my percent.
- 1:15:10Yeah.
- 1:15:10You're killing it, man.
- 1:15:12So Killing it.
- 1:15:13Bad.
- 1:15:13I got a guy that's killing me.
- 1:15:15That's what I'm I shared it to my channel since I was I said I'm being a guest in enemy
- 1:15:19territory.
- 1:15:20Yeah.
- 1:15:21Couple of my people have came up.
- 1:15:23Steve, the packer vans in there.
- 1:15:25Steve knows the policy, and Patty Grimes is he is actually from Grand Blanc right down the
- 1:15:31road from here in Mississippi.
- 1:15:32You might
- 1:15:32be in enemy territory, but one thing we can all agree on here is fuck the packers.
- 1:15:37Amen.
- 1:15:37FTP every day.
- 1:15:39Yeah.
- 1:15:40Yep.
- 1:15:40No.
- 1:15:41I You're cool.
- 1:15:42But Yes.
- 1:15:44Steve's Steve's actually a knowledgeable fan, and we talk a lot.
- 1:15:48You know, he's not the normal Packer fan.
- 1:15:52I Jare, a little bit about me too.
- 1:15:55I grew up a bears fan, and my wife's a Vikings fan.
- 1:15:57Sorry.
- 1:15:58And the bears were so caught off my entire life.
- 1:16:01I'm sorry.
- 1:16:02I got so tired of my wife talking to all this trash the last few years that, I said, to hell
- 1:16:10with this, man.
- 1:16:11I would much rather I would much rather oh, my wife that's my wife, Danielle.
- 1:16:20Jer, but, yeah, she talked so much smack, and we were going up to watch.
- 1:16:25Like, a little bit harder for me to get to Chicago and and get up there.
- 1:16:30Hey, Steve.
- 1:16:31What's up to you?
- 1:16:31And get my wife back in here.
- 1:16:33She said she got me to come to the you know what?
- 1:16:35It was really the fans.
- 1:16:36And it was really, like, even if the bears won, because I'm outside of the city and I don't
- 1:16:42live close to any of my family, I didn't know when to celebrate a win with.
- 1:16:45My wife's like, shut the f up.
- 1:16:47Like, I don't wanna hear about it.
- 1:16:48If you beat my team, I don't care.
- 1:16:50Where now we still kinda watch the bears games, and both of us, it's just like it I it's I'm
- 1:16:56not emotionally attached.
- 1:16:57Right?
- 1:16:58And that's great because the last time the bears beat them, it was 19 games before the
- 1:17:03last time.
- 1:17:04So
- 1:17:06And me, I've just become a bigger fan of football in general.
- 1:17:09Yeah.
- 1:17:10And a lot of that's had to do with becoming, friends with coach Cody, kinda following his
- 1:17:15journey first with the Saint Paul bears.
- 1:17:17And now with the Wyoming Cavalry, we're just like, I like to talk ball, and I like to kind
- 1:17:21of be in the conversation.
- 1:17:23I'm a podcaster.
- 1:17:24Right?
- 1:17:24I I came at this He's
- 1:17:27a lot happier.
- 1:17:28Hey.
- 1:17:29My buddy is.
- 1:17:30He's he's fighting in the neigh in the house.
- 1:17:32You know?
- 1:17:32Right.
- 1:17:32I'm happy everybody's happy.
- 1:17:34Season now is a lot better.
- 1:17:37Not and even though the bears are doing well right now, I've found that that franchise can
- 1:17:41be freaking toxic even when they're doing well.
- 1:17:44So, yeah, a shout out to, you know, my family.
- 1:17:48And the bears obviously having a great season this year.
- 1:17:51Beating back in that crazy game Sunday night that that was or a Saturday night rather.
- 1:17:58That was freaking crazy, man.
- 1:18:00Yeah.
- 1:18:01So But also a loveless, Parsons list, and then their their safety, know, was out too, and it
- 1:18:08took everything they had.
- 1:18:10So I you know what?
- 1:18:12These bears fans are out of their minds right now.
- 1:18:14Enjoy it.
- 1:18:15But when you go up and play some of these playoff caliber teams that are healthy, I mean,
- 1:18:20you gotta be who's in front of you.
- 1:18:22But at the end of the day, like, you got a lot left to prove and a lot to freaking figure out
- 1:18:28before you're talking about winning a Super Bowl.
- 1:18:31Hey.
- 1:18:31There you go.
- 1:18:32Steve's an alright guy.
- 1:18:33My roof for the packers, but he's a twins fan.
- 1:18:35Hey.
- 1:18:35That's great.
- 1:18:38You know, I root for anybody but Chicago team.
- 1:18:43That's awesome.
- 1:18:44I'm still all of my other Chicago team.
- 1:18:46All of them can go to hell.
- 1:18:47Yeah.
- 1:18:47I know.
- 1:18:49I still got love for the black hawks, and I've I just grew up diehard cubs fan.
- 1:18:55You know, really, you know, still got love for all my Chicago teams.
- 1:19:00And no.
- 1:19:01Not hickey's ass.
- 1:19:04I I don't call them
- 1:19:05the Yankees anyways.
- 1:19:06I felt for a long time I've been calling them the Yankees.
- 1:19:09But
- 1:19:12How fun, man.
- 1:19:14Well, yeah, I you know, talking about this game, I know you guys lost a brutal brutal
- 1:19:21game, the other night, the other afternoon.
- 1:19:24I say night.
- 1:19:25It was the
- 1:19:25late afternoon game, but it was freaking it was the when it happened.
- 1:19:29Yeah.
- 1:19:29Yeah.
- 1:19:30So well, I did wanna ask Cody about that because I know you probably watched the end of
- 1:19:35that game because you guys' game was done at 04:30 when ours started.
- 1:19:40That sequence and I'm not talking about the second one.
- 1:19:43The Amanra one, yes, he pushed off of Ramsey.
- 1:19:46That was pass interference.
- 1:19:47I understand that negated that anything that happened after that.
- 1:19:52The one before, when the defender redirected Tesla into the safety and they called offensive
- 1:19:58pass interference.
- 1:20:01Oh, I agree with Rex Ryan.
- 1:20:05They got it dead ass wrong.
- 1:20:08You you know, you're initiated by a corner, pushed into a safety, and they call OPI.
- 1:20:15Jared, do you feel like that might have been a little bit of and coach, you too, a makeup call
- 1:20:19from the OPI in the end zone going the other way just a little bit earlier in the game?
- 1:20:25The one with the DK Metcalf you're you're talking about.
- 1:20:28Right?
- 1:20:28No.
- 1:20:28He pushed off with the guy, came back to the ball just like I'm on Ross St.
- 1:20:32Brown.
- 1:20:33You know what I'm saying?
- 1:20:34That was the same type of play.
- 1:20:36So that is a actual OPI.
- 1:20:39You know what I mean?
- 1:20:40If you extend your arms, it doesn't matter who talking about but, man, there was a bunch
- 1:20:46of OPIs in this game.
- 1:20:47There was one that happened in
- 1:20:49the end where they were running maybe it wasn't in the end zone, but it was a crosser, and they
- 1:20:53kinda ran that pick play and the that giant well, what's his name?
- 1:20:56Washington, the tight end?
- 1:20:58The guy that's actually a tackle.
- 1:21:00He was drafted in massive.
- 1:21:02Yeah.
- 1:21:03He's massive.
- 1:21:04Yeah.
- 1:21:04And the dude runs into plays tight end.
- 1:21:06Get it right.
- 1:21:08Says get it right.
- 1:21:10Get him.
- 1:21:11You tell him.
- 1:21:13Dude, he's six eight, two sixty five, man.
- 1:21:16He's Yeah.
- 1:21:16I know.
- 1:21:17But he's eight.
- 1:21:18He's six eight.
- 1:21:20He was three fifteen.
- 1:21:21He cut weight because they asked him to play you know, Washington was not the tight end.
- 1:21:28He he weight from three fifteen to two sixty five to play tight end.
- 1:21:33Damn.
- 1:21:34That's that's some work right there.
- 1:21:36That's crazy work.
- 1:21:37Coach, there was one play where he ran over three dBs.
- 1:21:40They were bouncing off him like freaking bouncy balls.
- 1:21:44It was crazy.
- 1:21:45Twenty.
- 1:21:46I I weighed two twenty.
- 1:21:48I would bounce off of him.
- 1:21:51Oh, did you guys see Nate Burleson on the Dan Patrick show and what he said?
- 1:21:56I did.
- 1:21:56What did
- 1:21:56he say?
- 1:21:57Who was saying?
- 1:21:58I don't have time to watch it right now.
- 1:21:59He said, I played seven years in the NFL before I came to Detroit.
- 1:22:03I had two contracts with out there.
- 1:22:05I had Minnesota, then Seattle, and then I came to Detroit.
- 1:22:09And when I got there and we were playing against Chicago, and Calvin Johnson made that
- 1:22:15catch at the end of the game, and they called it not a catch because he stood up and sent the
- 1:22:21ball on the ground before he stood up all the way, they said, it's different here, man.
- 1:22:26The refs have it in for us.
- 1:22:28He goes, that's when he knew.
- 1:22:29And then the playoff game that same year was the base guarding play that got picked up in
- 1:22:35the playoff game.
- 1:22:38Yeah.
- 1:22:38And
- 1:22:39he said he said in my two years before I got injured, there was seven game changing calls
- 1:22:46where there was rules changed the next season because of our team.
- 1:22:52I I I believe it.
- 1:22:54I believe it.
- 1:22:56So he said it 100% is the thing.
- 1:22:58It's Detroit versus the refs.
- 1:23:02Yeah.
- 1:23:04I, I feel that way as a Vikings fan sometimes.
- 1:23:08You know?
- 1:23:08But I you know, that that played, the one you were talking about with, Calvin Johnson.
- 1:23:16That is a touchdown.
- 1:23:17That is a touchdown.
- 1:23:18That was a
- 1:23:19He doe caught it, got into the touchdown, got up on his knees, raised the hand, and set the
- 1:23:24ball on the ground, and got up.
- 1:23:26Mhmm.
- 1:23:27Mhmm.
- 1:23:27And
- 1:23:28they said it's not a catch.
- 1:23:29You know, it's this whole, you know
- 1:23:32But yet, the two weeks later, it was wintertime in Green Bay, and I remember this play because
- 1:23:39it was Randall Cobb made a diving catch into the end zone against your Minnesota Vikings,
- 1:23:44and there it was snowing.
- 1:23:46He sets the ball on the ground and makes a snow angel without ever getting up.
- 1:23:53They called him.
- 1:23:53Still ruled it a touchdown.
- 1:23:55Still ruled it a touchdown.
- 1:23:56Of course.
- 1:23:56Yeah.
- 1:23:58See?
- 1:23:58Yeah.
- 1:23:58Backers, the darlings of the NFL.
- 1:24:01Yeah.
- 1:24:01Yeah.
- 1:24:01I'm just saying they
- 1:24:02The only time the Vikings get a call is when they're playing the lions.
- 1:24:08Oh, please don't.
- 1:24:10But, here, I got one for you.
- 1:24:12I'm gonna put something in for a share screen here in a second.
- 1:24:15Let me get this going.
- 1:24:19It's what Skip Bayless said.
- 1:24:26Yeah.
- 1:24:26The, that was a wild finish, man.
- 1:24:28And and if Amanrad doesn't push off there, I mean, for one, he probably gets open anyway.
- 1:24:34And I wonder if that did they say was that Goff just kinda following the play, or was that
- 1:24:39designed?
- 1:24:40Yeah.
- 1:24:40That was with Dan Campbell.
- 1:24:41No.
- 1:24:42That was Goff following the play.
- 1:24:43That was
- 1:24:44good.
- 1:24:44And and Ahman Ra was trying to lateral it.
- 1:24:47It hit the ground, but that's a backward pass, which means it's a live ball.
- 1:24:51Yep.
- 1:24:51Right.
- 1:24:52Yeah.
- 1:24:52Presence on line Right.
- 1:24:53And that.
- 1:24:54Called it a touchdown, but because the OPI happened before it, it negated the play.
- 1:25:00Well and, hey, real quick.
- 1:25:02Shout out to Goff, and that should be a lesson to younger players.
- 1:25:07You know?
- 1:25:07Even even the quarterback, like, don't give up on the play.
- 1:25:11Keep on with the play until the whistle.
- 1:25:13Play until the whistle.
- 1:25:15Just because you're a quarterback doesn't mean you can just, throw the pass and sit there.
- 1:25:20Get upfield because stuff like that can happen.
- 1:25:24Just that's that's what being a vet and being a pro is all about.
- 1:25:29So he said the first one was not pass interference OPI.
- 1:25:32You know what I'm saying?
- 1:25:33He was talking about the first one at first.
- 1:25:35Okay.
- 1:25:36It didn't gain any advantage.
- 1:25:37Just let him play.
- 1:25:38The second OPI was the last ditch drive that cost Detroit a touchdown.
- 1:25:42Maybe the NFL just wants to earn Rogers in the postseason.
- 1:25:45Hey.
- 1:25:45I'm not gonna deny that either.
- 1:25:47I'm
- 1:25:49I was like, Skip went off about it.
- 1:25:52You know what I mean?
- 1:25:53And then look what Robert Kirkman said down there.
- 1:25:55Second one in the
- 1:25:56end zone for sure.
- 1:25:57The one earlier, in the game or in, you know, that drive.
- 1:26:01And that drive was just weird.
- 1:26:03That whole last drive was weird.
- 1:26:05Weird penalties on Pittsburgh too to extend things
- 1:26:09and just forth and everything.
- 1:26:11Yeah.
- 1:26:11Just
- 1:26:11wild.
- 1:26:12The whole sequence.
- 1:26:13I I honestly thought it was coming down in Detroit.
- 1:26:15You know, they were setting it up for Detroit to win, and then you have this crazy play at
- 1:26:20the end.
- 1:26:21Hey.
- 1:26:22We appreciate you, Steve.
- 1:26:23Thanks for
- 1:26:24Thanks for tuning
- 1:26:25in, Matt.
- 1:26:25We're a new show.
- 1:26:26We started halfway through this season, went through a rebrand.
- 1:26:30We were Vikings uncensored, but there's another uncensored.
- 1:26:33So we rebranded to Vikings United, which is actually better for us because we got coaches
- 1:26:37inside.
- 1:26:38Obviously, you know, coach has been a diehard Vikings fan his whole life.
- 1:26:42I'm a little bit new to the Vikings thing, but still watched a lot of NFC North football
- 1:26:46anyway.
- 1:26:47I know that you guys got the trash talk session.
- 1:26:50I had to leave the messenger group.
- 1:26:52I don't do the trash talk that much.
- 1:26:56I don't do it that much.
- 1:26:57I I I talk with Mac, and if I get beat, I say good game.
- 1:27:02You know?
- 1:27:03I don't I'm not that guy.
- 1:27:05But if somebody tries to trash my team when we just beat them, I'm gonna say, wait.
- 1:27:11You're saying what?
- 1:27:13You know?
- 1:27:14It's been it's been Thirty
- 1:27:16eight years as a bears fan.
- 1:27:18I've never had any shit to talk.
- 1:27:20They won the Super Bowl after I or before I was born, and then they've only made it back once,
- 1:27:26and it was a glitch for us.
- 1:27:27Yep.
- 1:27:32Are you saying has football changed since the eighties and nineties?
- 1:27:37Or Yeah.
- 1:27:37Are
- 1:27:38100%.
- 1:27:39The eighties and nineties was a way more hardcore type of football.
- 1:27:43There wasn't a lot of that ticky tacky kick.
- 1:27:46You have to put a pillow and a blankie on the quarterback when you sack them.
- 1:27:50You know, you can take somebody's leg out.
- 1:27:52So look at look at what LT did to Joe Diceman.
- 1:27:56That wasn't a penalty.
- 1:27:58It would be a penalty these days.
- 1:28:00Well and I was I was bitching earlier in the Vikings game.
- 1:28:04Eric Wilson had a sack on Jackson Dart where he's coming in.
- 1:28:09It's a little bit yeah.
- 1:28:11Steve, let me find me on Facebook.
- 1:28:14Bubba starts.
- 1:28:15Shoot me a DM, a friend request, and I'll send a link over to you, man.
- 1:28:20Yeah.
- 1:28:20And later, actually, you know what?
- 1:28:22I think Jared could send it to you because he's probably already got you in a chat.
- 1:28:26So go ahead and send that link
- 1:28:27to him.
- 1:28:28I I got how to do it.
- 1:28:30I can copy it and put it into the chat actually first on my side.
- 1:28:35Is that right messaging?
- 1:28:37To answer answer Steve's question, I mean, yeah, it's a 100% changed since the eighties
- 1:28:43and nineties.
- 1:28:44You know, you're talking about LT, Lawrence Taylor.
- 1:28:47I'm I'm, you know, I'm from a different generation, so I'm thinking, you know, Brian
- 1:28:52Urlacher, Zach Thomas.
- 1:28:55You know?
- 1:28:56He he you know, the the, like, people like those, they'd probably be broke from all the
- 1:29:03fines like we were talking earlier.
- 1:29:06Just Ray Lewis, people that were just, just beasts.
- 1:29:14That should be it, Steve.
- 1:29:16Yeah.
- 1:29:16You just the messenger of Meta always adds some long freaking code to it, so it looks like
- 1:29:21trash, but there he is.
- 1:29:23Awesome.
- 1:29:24Yep.
- 1:29:24I'll wait for him to load up on a I don't know if you got video on there yet, Steve, or just
- 1:29:29audio.
- 1:29:32I'm gonna remove that graphic I put up.
- 1:29:35No.
- 1:29:35You're all good, man.
- 1:29:36It's nice that everybody uses StreamYard, so we kinda know how to operate.
- 1:29:39Bring in our brother, Steve.
- 1:29:41Welcome to the show, man.
- 1:29:42What's up?
- 1:29:44What's up, Steve?
- 1:29:45How we doing, Steve?
- 1:29:46Like I said, I've known JV for a couple years.
- 1:29:49I always respected him.
- 1:29:51You know?
- 1:29:51Like, I'm not one of these guys that comes in and I I mean, I can't.
- 1:29:57I'll let you know that if if you if you're gonna bash on me, I can bring it.
- 1:30:02But I'm I'm respectful of people's podcast because I know people put a lot of work and
- 1:30:07time in this, but I just love talking football with people.
- 1:30:11And JB's been one of the decent guys I have met over the years that like, he said he likes me
- 1:30:16because I actually talk football.
- 1:30:18I don't really trash talk.
- 1:30:20I'm not really that type of person.
- 1:30:21Now if you wanna bring it, bring it.
- 1:30:23Because I'll tell you
- 1:30:24what right now, I'll bring it.
- 1:30:26Oh, yeah.
- 1:30:27But you have to admit, the that is the only way Detroit gets in at this point.
- 1:30:34We have to win out.
- 1:30:35You have to lose out.
- 1:30:37That is what they said.
- 1:30:39That's it.
- 1:30:39That's the only way.
- 1:30:40But, you know, like, I don't let anything faze me now in football because I've seen and heard
- 1:30:47many things.
- 1:30:47I don't know what to believe anymore.
- 1:30:49Like, I don't know if you guys heard this, but I've been trying to say it, like, there's been
- 1:30:53a lot of controversial calls about these reps.
- 1:30:56Okay?
- 1:30:57A lot.
- 1:30:57Not, you know, not just the lions or bears or packers, what everywhere.
- 1:31:01Now couple years ago, I was on a pod, and it was said, JB, you're pretty good with
- 1:31:09background.
- 1:31:09YouTube dudes, god bless you, don't know.
- 1:31:11You guys might know anything like this, but it was said that it was in a court order that the
- 1:31:18NFL is sports entertainment.
- 1:31:21Yep.
- 1:31:21It's sports entertainment that the refs can call the games however they want.
- 1:31:27Yep.
- 1:31:27And that's what I gather.
- 1:31:30I mean, so if if that's it's like I hate saying this because I think some people, you know, get
- 1:31:36mad when I say this, but it's like almost like the WWE.
- 1:31:40Oh.
- 1:31:41Yeah.
- 1:31:41There was a I remember a couple years ago, see saw where Roger Goodell made a statement.
- 1:31:47He says, the WWE that The Undertaker go 21 and o at WrestleMania, and because there's this big
- 1:31:54thing with the Patriots always winning and now the Chiefs.
- 1:31:57And I'm like, why is he bringing up a wrestling antic when he's a commissioner of the NFL?
- 1:32:04And, you know, it just hit me weird.
- 1:32:06But Well, he was
- 1:32:08basically saying VR sports entertainment.
- 1:32:12Yeah.
- 1:32:12Well, I think the
- 1:32:13only thing they can control really is the refs.
- 1:32:16Right?
- 1:32:16The schedule kinda has a system that it follows.
- 1:32:19You can't help injuries.
- 1:32:21You don't know how that's gonna go, but you want the best franchises in that position
- 1:32:26because that makes the overall product, right, more valuable.
- 1:32:31It's money.
- 1:32:31It's it's sucks to see it.
- 1:32:33Like, that's my wife, Steve.
- 1:32:35She she's not she's not talking smack, but she she's got a she could have a link to join the
- 1:32:41show too.
- 1:32:42She always tells me no.
- 1:32:43So until she jumps on the
- 1:32:44show to defend herself, then we're both honest.
- 1:32:47Timeline.
- 1:32:48Danielle, Danielle, god bless you.
- 1:32:50Be safe, whatever.
- 1:32:52No hard it it's all good.
- 1:32:54I take a
- 1:32:54lot of crap on I take a lot of crap on from people.
- 1:32:57I could take it.
- 1:32:59Yep.
- 1:33:00You know, I I have my four sponsors that Steve loves that I do.
- 1:33:04He laughs when I do it because
- 1:33:06it's for one.
- 1:33:08I said for one.
- 1:33:09I got FTP, and it shows the little stick figures screwing the Green Bay logo.
- 1:33:13And I got I got f to b for fuck the bears, and it's screwing a bears logo.
- 1:33:21Hey.
- 1:33:21I have
- 1:33:22to say this.
- 1:33:23On his one show before on his one show before, I was the first person to ever call his show.
- 1:33:30Yes.
- 1:33:31When I I had I had a good board that allowed me to hook a burner phone up, and I used the
- 1:33:38burner phone.
- 1:33:39And he actually called in, and we did a call in show.
- 1:33:42Awesome.
- 1:33:43Yeah.
- 1:33:44And StreamYard's great for this, man.
- 1:33:45I love it.
- 1:33:46I mean, I do.
- 1:33:46So what I actually do, Steve, is that I have a the scene projects is kind of my original
- 1:33:52network, which is all focused
- 1:33:54on independent music.
- 1:33:55I'm a songwriter and a musician, and I interview independent musicians and artists
- 1:34:00around the world.
- 1:34:00I've done over 500 interviews on my show.
- 1:34:03Oh, that's Sandal Opry House last last month in November doing interviews with some artists.
- 1:34:11And then I just happen to be a sports fan.
- 1:34:13So I've used my podcasting to get into you know, I'm trying to work it into credentials
- 1:34:19for some of these games.
- 1:34:20Right?
- 1:34:21Get big enough to where we can get in and actually get on the sidelines for some of this
- 1:34:25stuff because I've covered PGA Tour events with this, and I got, like, 70 followers.
- 1:34:29Right?
- 1:34:29We got 70 subscribers.
- 1:34:31But because of who I am and knowing the systems a little bit, I've gotten into PGA Tour.
- 1:34:37I interviewed Ronda Barber and Chris Carter at a charity golf event.
- 1:34:40Awesome.
- 1:34:42Well, I got a picture with Ronda.
- 1:34:43That was really cool.
- 1:34:44A forty five minute pressure with these guys.
- 1:34:47Right?
- 1:34:47It was awesome.
- 1:34:48Got a bunch of free golf out of the out of the podcast because I'm willing to go out there,
- 1:34:53bring my cameras, go hit some balls, and make a little promo video for the golf course.
- 1:34:58Right?
- 1:34:58So it was all about leveraging the media side of it.
- 1:35:01And I watched a lot of I don't
- 1:35:03know if you guys are familiar with the bears podcast, the tape never lies network.
- 1:35:07Draft doctor Phil and my guy, Shane Marshall, as growing up a bears fan, I was watching them
- 1:35:14a lot.
- 1:35:14I think what they had built was like, damn, man.
- 1:35:17That's cool, but I don't wanna do a
- 1:35:20I don't wanna do a Yes.
- 1:35:22We do.
- 1:35:22Yeah.
- 1:35:23It's all I can mute him while while I'm talking.
- 1:35:25But I wanted to do a show, but I didn't there was already a lot of bears coverage.
- 1:35:30Obviously, they're the biggest market in the NFC North.
- 1:35:33There's already a ton of coverage.
- 1:35:35You have CHGO.
- 1:35:36Sorry about that, guys.
- 1:35:37Networks.
- 1:35:38You're all good, man.
- 1:35:39But, you know, having that out there already was like, I wanna do something, but I I'm not
- 1:35:46gonna break in on the bear side.
- 1:35:47Right?
- 1:35:48There's already a million shows.
- 1:35:49And once I started following the Vikings a little bit, I like, there's nobody really out
- 1:35:53here doing other than Purple Daily, who's a pretty big network with Score North that's
- 1:35:59really doing Vikings kind of fan content.
- 1:36:01And then finding you guys, obviously, through Rob Haspels and the Viking World Order crew is
- 1:36:06just like, oh, no.
- 1:36:07We have a platform to talk about all of the all of the charity work that the VWO are doing and
- 1:36:13some of these other people.
- 1:36:14So, yeah, it was an easy transition then to, like, okay.
- 1:36:18I know all the broadcasting stuff now, this this podcasting world.
- 1:36:21Now we're just talking ball, and and who gives a shit?
- 1:36:24Don't have to be the the best in the world.
- 1:36:27Right?
- 1:36:27I don't have to have all the answers as far as the statistics go.
- 1:36:31We got Big B from the coast to coast network that that's been cohosting with us.
- 1:36:35He's a little under the weather tonight, so he's off the air.
- 1:36:37But, yeah, man, it's just fun to talk ball.
- 1:36:40It's fun to invite the other teams in.
- 1:36:41Good people.
- 1:36:42Right?
- 1:36:43Talking football, we all care.
- 1:36:46It's fun to eventually be able to meet up at the tailgates and to Yes.
- 1:36:50Yes.
- 1:36:50We all play each other twice a year, man.
- 1:36:52So it's about building a family and and and growing and and just having good time watching
- 1:36:58ball, man.
- 1:36:59And I I switched.
- 1:37:00I grew up a bears fan.
- 1:37:01I switched so I could root for a team with my wife.
- 1:37:03Right?
- 1:37:04Like, rooting against your wife in football is, like, the worst possible thing on the planet
- 1:37:09because if she wins, she talks mad shit and always in my face the whole time.
- 1:37:16And if I win, I don't get the same courtesy.
- 1:37:19Right?
- 1:37:19Oh, no.
- 1:37:20Not at all.
- 1:37:20Situation and
- 1:37:22The prop bets can be great.
- 1:37:26Yeah.
- 1:37:27But, anyways, you were talking about credentials.
- 1:37:30I've been lucky enough as a writer because I write about the lion for the South Florida
- 1:37:34Tribune.
- 1:37:35I have recently been picked up by Roundtable IO.
- 1:37:38I also write about the Jaguars and the Buccaneers, but I was credentialed for the
- 1:37:43twenty twenty four draft here in Detroit.
- 1:37:45That's cool, man.
- 1:37:47That's cool.
- 1:37:48So I had a good friend of mine that performed at it, and that's kinda how I met the Viking
- 1:37:53World Order.
- 1:37:54My friend my friend has a band called Trailer Park Country, and he did the song, he did the
- 1:38:02song Tailgate Crazy.
- 1:38:03And it became a little viral hit.
- 1:38:05The NFL picked it up, and they invited him out to the draft.
- 1:38:07He was actually at the hall of fame game this year as well.
- 1:38:11So, yeah, shout out to Trailer Park Country.
- 1:38:13Look them up.
- 1:38:14They're friends with all the super fan groups now.
- 1:38:17And, you know, I I've been blessed.
- 1:38:19I've been blessed to just know some people Yes.
- 1:38:21Who were able to plug me in and and then get in to meet the Viking World Order and going to the
- 1:38:26Whiteout game up in Minnesota last year.
- 1:38:28We're just like, okay.
- 1:38:29And they're the closest team to me.
- 1:38:31Right?
- 1:38:31Like, I'm eight, nine
- 1:38:32hours from Chicago.
- 1:38:33I'm five hours from Minneapolis.
- 1:38:35It's a
- 1:38:36lot easier to get to the cities and see a game.
- 1:38:39I have a lot of friends up there
- 1:38:40that play music as well.
- 1:38:41So anytime we go up, I book a couple of shows, and I'm able to kind of make a weekend out of
- 1:38:46it.
- 1:38:47Right?
- 1:38:47Or go see the twins.
- 1:38:48We were up there too.
- 1:38:49So, yeah, this is all about access at the end of the day.
- 1:38:52Like, can we grow our platform big enough to be able to do what you've done and to get into
- 1:38:58some of these Yep.
- 1:38:59Big events and get some sideline credentials eventually?
- 1:39:02I'm hoping Well, I've been a
- 1:39:04Oh, go ahead.
- 1:39:05Packers.
- 1:39:06You know, I'm 52 years old, and I noticed most packer fans became packer fans when Brett Favre
- 1:39:13came into the era and and and, you know, Aaron Rogers.
- 1:39:15Fucking hated Favre.
- 1:39:17I've been a packer fan since 1978 at
- 1:39:20my In
- 1:39:20Brown and when I was four or five years, actually, my first packer game I watched was
- 1:39:27with my dad, and it was the packers versus the Vikings.
- 1:39:31That was their very first game, and that was David Whitehurst and Lynn Dickey.
- 1:39:34I that's when I started.
- 1:39:36And most packer fans Brett Falk now my favorite quarterback of a Packer of all time was the
- 1:39:41Magic Man.
- 1:39:42He was the one I would hope yeah.
- 1:39:45He he was the one I would hope that would have played for seventy years.
- 1:39:48I loved Don Mikalski.
- 1:39:50In high school, because of that, everybody called me the magic man.
- 1:39:54Even my teachers wrote on my paper magic man.
- 1:39:56They drew a wand if I had to if I get an air or something.
- 1:39:59It was great.
- 1:40:00It was great.
- 1:40:01But my my first game was, and I think so many weeks ago on YouTube, they showed that game on
- 1:40:08here.
- 1:40:09And I think and I remember it brought back a lot of memories.
- 1:40:11It was the same game that I the first game that I watched versus the packers and Vikings.
- 1:40:17The beautiful the beautiful thing with me is my first game was 10/02/1982, and that was the
- 1:40:24game when Billy Sims karate kicked Stevie Brown, the cornerback for the Houston Oilers,
- 1:40:29to get a first down.
- 1:40:31And then next year, it became a rule that you couldn't karate kick people.
- 1:40:35So that was what made me a super lions fan at the age of 12.
- 1:40:41And forty years to the day, I got to take my father to his first game at Fort Field.
- 1:40:49I love that.
- 1:40:50Awesome.
- 1:40:50Even though it was a losing effort versus Seattle, it was really cool to have that, you
- 1:40:56know, circle of life moment.
- 1:40:59Cody, you grew up a a Vikings fan.
- 1:41:03I'm assuming you've been to a game at either at the Metrodome or or at US Bank?
- 1:41:08I went to one game at US Bank back when we had Tavares Jackson.
- 1:41:15Everybody no.
- 1:41:17The ponder Christian ponder.
- 1:41:19Oh.
- 1:41:20And yeah.
- 1:41:21We ended up we actually ended up winning that one, so that was sweet.
- 1:41:25Mhmm. Okay.
- 1:41:25Okay.
- 1:41:26But Or no one knows.
- 1:41:28I know.
- 1:41:29Especially with him.
- 1:41:30Of course, it was Peterson, Adrian Peterson carrying the load.
- 1:41:34So but, man, I now you guys got me thinking.
- 1:41:39The first game I ever remember watching as a Vikings fan, it's gotta be I wanna say Randy
- 1:41:46Moss's first or second year he was doing kick return, or punt return, and he took one back
- 1:41:53against the Kansas City Chiefs.
- 1:41:55And, yeah, that was too.
- 1:41:58That was your too?
- 1:42:00Too.
- 1:42:01Yep.
- 1:42:01Okay.
- 1:42:02Yeah.
- 1:42:02Yeah.
- 1:42:02No.
- 1:42:03That's that's always stuck out to me.
- 1:42:05I and even, you know, growing up, I didn't I was You
- 1:42:09just mentioned my greatest know, everybody says Aaron Donald was the worst Aaron Donald was the
- 1:42:15worst draft missed by the Lions picking Eric Nebron.
- 1:42:18No.
- 1:42:19No.
- 1:42:19No.
- 1:42:19It's worse.
- 1:42:20In night, in that draft that Randy Moss has picked 28, do you know who we picked 27?
- 1:42:26Terry fucking Bear.
- 1:42:30A punt returning corner that couldn't cover anybody with a blanket.
- 1:42:38Yeah.
- 1:42:39That's tough.
- 1:42:40That's tough.
- 1:42:41That's very tough.
- 1:42:42I cried that draft.
- 1:42:44I was like, he's right there.
- 1:42:46Man.
- 1:42:48Jared, Steve, are you do you do the podcast with Jared occasionally?
- 1:42:53You got your own show or anything that you do, or what do you do?
- 1:42:56I'm actually thinking somewhere down the line.
- 1:42:58I've started one, but right now, like, I I just love going on, like, his show and all the other
- 1:43:05shows.
- 1:43:05Like, I even found another one.
- 1:43:07It's a bear show.
- 1:43:07There's four guys, and they're really cool guys.
- 1:43:10They're really cool guys.
- 1:43:11It's a bear show that I found, and they respect me.
- 1:43:14You know?
- 1:43:15I mean, we had a little fun trash talk, but it's what I enjoy.
- 1:43:18Just to just to talk football.
- 1:43:21Because here where I'm at I live in West Virginia.
- 1:43:23Okay?
- 1:43:24And here where I'm at, I outside my one friend, John, who's a 49ers fan, I don't really have
- 1:43:30anybody to talk football with.
- 1:43:32Now my girlfriend here is a Colts fan, you know, and so forth, but still no one really has
- 1:43:39the knowledge to talk for me to talk football with.
- 1:43:42Then that's why, you know, like I said, I just wanna I don't really wanna trash talk.
- 1:43:47Like I said, I enjoy JB and, you know I mean, I could bring it if I wanted to, but I'm not
- 1:43:52really a disrespectful guy like that.
- 1:43:55You know?
- 1:43:55But it's
- 1:43:56your only t it's your only chance to talk about your team because you don't have it.
- 1:44:00You're not a local fan.
- 1:44:01Right?
- 1:44:02And that's, like, the beauty of the Internet now is that you can still, like, follow your
- 1:44:06team and find community and and have people to talk to about it.
- 1:44:11And even if you only get together once a week and to me, that's what was cool about the tape
- 1:44:15never lies network.
- 1:44:16Shout out to my guys, you know, draft doctor Phil.
- 1:44:19And now they built a whole network.
- 1:44:20They got shows every day.
- 1:44:21They got, you know, ex bears that are coming on with them and hanging out, and they've really
- 1:44:26grown this thing.
- 1:44:26But they were in chat rooms and shit way back.
- 1:44:30Like, in the late nineties, they've been doing different chat rooms, and then Bears Barroom
- 1:44:34was another one that did it, and I started following them there.
- 1:44:38And then they've just been growing and growing and growing where their YouTube channel's got,
- 1:44:42like, I don't know, 16,000 subscribers or something now, and they get a huge following,
- 1:44:47people tuning into their live stuff all the time.
- 1:44:49But it just grew from being in small communities of Bear because one of them is from
- 1:44:54Connecticut, the other one's in Upstate New York.
- 1:44:57So they've always been out of town Bear fans and really growing from there.
- 1:45:02So seeing what they built gave me a lot of confidence to come out and build this network.
- 1:45:06We do a pregame show before the Viking games.
- 1:45:09So this week's different.
- 1:45:11We're doing our we did our pregame coverage on Tuesday for Vikings United, but this is kind of
- 1:45:16exactly what we want the show to be.
- 1:45:18Yes.
- 1:45:18Being able to bring in the opposing team in on Tuesday nights, talk ball, talk about the game
- 1:45:24coming up, talk about the game that was, and just have some fun with each other and Right.
- 1:45:30To share it.
- 1:45:31Right?
- 1:45:32Well, it's
- 1:45:32it's it's like to me, I've been on some other pods, and what I don't like is is that there's
- 1:45:42like, JB, he's a lot him, Fred, you know, this Jimmy Jackson, he he he's cool.
- 1:45:49I don't like the ones that can dish it out
- 1:45:52But can't take
- 1:45:53can't it.
- 1:45:54They you know, because if you cut now see, they have the power.
- 1:45:57Like, if you say something back, they could, band you or whatever.
- 1:46:02I mean, they you.
- 1:46:03No.
- 1:46:04Of course. Just
- 1:46:04Just mute Steve if we don't like what he's saying.
- 1:46:07But I'm talking with you, Steve.
- 1:46:09If if you're gonna come on okay.
- 1:46:12It you know, there has to be a little to make the pots fun, there's gotta be a little
- 1:46:15hostility.
- 1:46:16A little, but keep it clean.
- 1:46:17You know, keep it clean.
- 1:46:19Respectful.
- 1:46:20Yeah.
- 1:46:20If you can't if you can't take it, then don't dish it.
- 1:46:25So I mean, you When Jim comes on, I do something for him on my channel from my
- 1:46:29soundboard.
- 1:46:30Do you mind if I play a quick sounder?
- 1:46:32No.
- 1:46:33Go ahead.
- 1:46:39I love it.
- 1:46:40I love it.
- 1:46:41Oh, man.
- 1:46:43But yeah.
- 1:46:44No.
- 1:46:44Steve, I'm with you.
- 1:46:46You know, I I got that same mentality.
- 1:46:49You know, you, you know, you want to have a place to come and talk football.
- 1:46:56You know, everybody have respect for everybody.
- 1:46:58But if someone crosses that line, you know, you're willing to dish it back, you know, I'm
- 1:47:02kind of the same way.
- 1:47:04Don't take my kindness for weakness because these hands work.
- 1:47:06You feel me?
- 1:47:07So Amen.
- 1:47:08It's the same thing.
- 1:47:10Be a deep warrior if you can't back it up.
- 1:47:13Exactly.
- 1:47:13Yeah.
- 1:47:14But I mean,
- 1:47:15You know, the this you know, just have you know, you wanted the space to talk football,
- 1:47:21you know, and, you know, not very many people might have that knowledge, or the same level of
- 1:47:27knowledge to talk that football, but there's also not that very many places for people to go
- 1:47:34and feel comfortable to speak, you know, about football.
- 1:47:38And so this is, you know, this is why we we're doing what we're doing.
- 1:47:42And, you know, right now, it's for fun.
- 1:47:45Who knows?
- 1:47:45It could build into something bigger and better, and we could probably all one day meet
- 1:47:50at a Vikings game, you know, doing it on the sideline.
- 1:47:54And, you know get
- 1:47:55into one game, right, or even if we just, like, get to the for us, like, the VWO, they're all
- 1:48:02see most of them are season ticket holders.
- 1:48:04Right?
- 1:48:04So if we could get to the point where we wanna start covering it and being at their, at their
- 1:48:09tailgates when possible and doing the show live from there.
- 1:48:12So, like, if this show gets us into one game that we didn't have to go and buy tickets for,
- 1:48:18like, it's a win.
- 1:48:20Right?
- 1:48:20Yeah.
- 1:48:21Just being able to hang out and talk ball.
- 1:48:23You know?
- 1:48:24Your show I'm sure you feel this way, Jer.
- 1:48:26Like, your show is wildly.
- 1:48:28It got you into a draft, dude.
- 1:48:30Like
- 1:48:30Yeah.
- 1:48:30That's crazy.
- 1:48:31My writing.
- 1:48:32That my writings.
- 1:48:33I started them the same season, the 2223 season.
- 1:48:37And for in two years' time, to be able to be at the draft was amazing.
- 1:48:42It was an honor.
- 1:48:43Thank you to my publisher for applying for my credentials to get me in there.
- 1:48:47Scott Morgenroff is originally from the Detroit area.
- 1:48:50He moved to Florida, started the South Florida Tribune, and he bought the name of the paper
- 1:48:55that he wrote for in Detroit called the Motor City Tribune.
- 1:49:00So that's where all my articles go in the subheading under the sub subheading subheading
- 1:49:03the the subheading.
- 1:49:05Well, because of him and his connections, I got hooked up with Roundtable IO, which is an app
- 1:49:10you can download on your dry on your phone.
- 1:49:13And they have different shows and different for all 32 NFL teams.
- 1:49:17So I'm trying to break into there for the lions too and to have my stuff go to two sites.
- 1:49:24Yeah.
- 1:49:24We're gonna look them up tomorrow.
- 1:49:25We'll do some writing.
- 1:49:27Say, Steve, we're we're getting some pretty bad feedback off of there, so I'm gonna let you go.
- 1:49:31But just a chance to say goodbye to everyone and wish everyone a Merry Christmas.
- 1:49:35Yep.
- 1:49:35You too.
- 1:49:36Thank you.
- 1:49:37Thanks, Steve.
- 1:49:38Pleasure seeing you.
- 1:49:39See you, guys.
- 1:49:40Don't be a stranger, man.
- 1:49:41Make sure you jump over.
- 1:49:42Scene Project Sports Network is our YouTube channel.
- 1:49:45Give us a subscribe over there, and you're welcome here anytime, man.
- 1:49:48Appreciate you, brother.
- 1:49:49What's the name
- 1:49:50of the site?
- 1:49:51Scene Projects Sports Network.
- 1:49:54Okay.
- 1:49:54I'll check it out, and I'll
- 1:49:55do that.
- 1:49:56SPSN.
- 1:49:57Okay.
- 1:49:59Well, and god bless.
- 1:50:00I mean, you
- 1:50:00a merry Christmas.
- 1:50:02You too, and you guys be safe.
- 1:50:03God bless.
- 1:50:04God bless, man.
- 1:50:05Happy holidays.
- 1:50:07It took me four years to get to where I started podcasting, to where I even wanted to be a part
- 1:50:13of a a network.
- 1:50:14And the reason why is a somber one.
- 1:50:17It was 02/08/2016.
- 1:50:19That was the infamous, fail can't Super Bowl where they couldn't hold off the Patriots.
- 1:50:25And my son, my oldest son, called me at halftime.
- 1:50:28He lived in North Carolina the time.
- 1:50:30And he goes, what do you think of this game?
- 1:50:32I said, you cannot count the Patriots out.
- 1:50:37And he said, if that happens because I don't care what you do the rest of your life, do
- 1:50:43something with the football knowledge you have.
- 1:50:45And I said, okay.
- 1:50:46He goes, I know you're a lions fan, so that's the great route you'll go.
- 1:50:51That was the last time I got to talk to my son on the phone because he parisked in a car crash
- 1:50:56that night.
- 1:50:57And so after dealing with all of that and four years later, I started a page about the lions
- 1:51:05on Facebook, and I started writing a couple game previews and game reviews.
- 1:51:11And lo and behold, I made a comment on a podcast called Inside the Pigskin that was ran
- 1:51:19by Scott Morgan Roth, and he was talking about the difference between Matt Patricia and Dan
- 1:51:24Campbell back in 2021.
- 1:51:27Yes.
- 1:51:28See?
- 1:51:28He agrees with me.
- 1:51:30Take out the packers in week 18.
- 1:51:32But, anyway, anyways, so I said, oh, I can give you my nicknames for him.
- 1:51:39He goes, throw them in there.
- 1:51:40I said, I called Matt Patricia and Bob Quinn, Matt Patricia and Boob Quinn.
- 1:51:47And he laughed, and he contacted me.
- 1:51:49He goes, you ever do any writing?
- 1:51:50And the only game that I had reviewed that year was the Ravens game when they beat us with that
- 1:51:57at the time, the NFL record 66 yard field goal from Justin Tucker.
- 1:52:02And I call it the greatest kick that never should have happened and explained about the
- 1:52:06false start, the a time running out, and they did they had no time out, and they didn't do a
- 1:52:12runoff and didn't call a penalty because that kick shouldn't have happened.
- 1:52:16When they spiked the ball, it was two seconds after the clock hit zero.
- 1:52:20And we all know even though the time play clock is off, it's not off by two or three seconds.
- 1:52:25It's like a half a second off between the TV and real life.
- 1:52:30So twins bandage, misspelled tigers.
- 1:52:35Jim, you're funny.
- 1:52:38No.
- 1:52:39He's from Minnesota.
- 1:52:40Give him his stuff.
- 1:52:41But so that's how I got started into the writing.
- 1:52:45Mhmm.
- 1:52:45I met up with through my page on Facebook, I met Jim Bordeaux who ran Detroit Lions on the
- 1:52:52Prowl.
- 1:52:53And he passed away Thanksgiving of twenty twenty one, but he started having me on his
- 1:52:58Friday show, which was free for all Fridays with fans and podcasters of the show.
- 1:53:03And he introduced me to some guys, and I took over that season and helped them out.
- 1:53:07And at the end of the season, I found out they had been on for three years and not a new
- 1:53:12podcast like I thought because they had 29 subs when I started, and they had 209 subs by the
- 1:53:18end of the season.
- 1:53:19I said, I think I need to do this on my own.
- 1:53:22I said, oh, okay.
- 1:53:24The next couple months later, I got my StreamYard going.
- 1:53:27I started it, and I had a 100 subs the first month.
- 1:53:30I'm sitting at almost 600 now.
- 1:53:33Let's go.
- 1:53:34Let's go.
- 1:53:35So I'm trying to get I'm trying to get where I'm paid.
- 1:53:40I'm trying to get where I'm paid like everybody else.
- 1:53:42You know?
- 1:53:43But, you know what?
- 1:53:44But I didn't do it because I'm paid.
- 1:53:46I didn't wanna do it because I wanna be paid.
- 1:53:48I did it because I love talking football.
- 1:53:50I love my team, and I love talking sport.
- 1:53:53And You know?
- 1:53:54Hey.
- 1:53:54We're gonna follow in your footsteps with the writing gigs, man, because I think what you
- 1:53:59just explained there is that when you look at the stats, and you listen to the winners, that
- 1:54:06you're not getting any context.
- 1:54:08Right?
- 1:54:08You're not getting any context about how the game was won or lost either way.
- 1:54:13And and that's a valuable asset, I think, to, you know, our our stack now as well as kinda
- 1:54:19getting more writing out there.
- 1:54:21And I'm releasing these as podcast fan, you know, on our podcast versions as well.
- 1:54:27At least the Vikings United, the pre games are kind of you know, pregame is pregame.
- 1:54:31We'll do those as a livestream.
- 1:54:33But, yeah, man, it's really cool to see what it's done for you.
- 1:54:36Really sorry to hear about your boy, man.
- 1:54:38That that's awful for any parent to have to go through, man.
- 1:54:41So our hearts go out to you.
- 1:54:43Thank you.
- 1:54:43I appreciate it.
- 1:54:46Well, fellas, it's almost 10:00 here in South Dakota.
- 1:54:51I think you're an hour ahead of us, Cher.
- 1:54:52Are you East Coast time?
- 1:54:54Yeah.
- 1:54:54I'm in Eastern time.
- 1:54:55I'm up about an hour north.
- 1:54:57Yep.
- 1:54:58I I'm up this time of light.
- 1:54:59I don't mean I I usually work afternoon for my day job.
- 1:55:03But thank you very much for having me on.
- 1:55:05I appreciate it.
- 1:55:08Christian Christian Mahogany, he was awful in his first game back after the injury.
- 1:55:12I didn't expect much out of him, but he did have the backup center playing next to him and
- 1:55:18not our starting center center in Graham Glasgow who was a pole participant today.
- 1:55:23So that's good that we we may have him back because that'll get some of that cohesiveness
- 1:55:28back that they just started to bill on build on the interior pole line.
- 1:55:33Yeah.
- 1:55:33She's getting tired.
- 1:55:34She's like, come to bed, daddy.
- 1:55:36Yeah.
- 1:55:37She doesn't care.
- 1:55:38She's she's got her cats, man.
- 1:55:40She's going to bed.
- 1:55:41Well, I might be sleeping in the garage, though, if I don't get in here soon.
- 1:55:45Yep.
- 1:55:45But
- 1:55:46Pleasure having you on, Jer.
- 1:55:48Have a great
- 1:55:48It's a pleasure talking.
- 1:55:49Have a holiday.
- 1:55:50Enjoy the game.
- 1:55:53I I say the same thing when I end every one of my shows, and I'd like to share it with you.
- 1:55:57It's try every day to be a better person than you were the day before.
- 1:56:00That's the only way we'll make the world a better place and start to see yourself.
- 1:56:05I like that.
- 1:56:06Appreciate
- 1:56:07that.
- 1:56:07Great night, everybody.
- 1:56:08Hey.
- 1:56:09You too.
- 1:56:09You know what?
- 1:56:10In in this game, if the lions win, I'm not gonna be that brokenhearted, honestly.
- 1:56:16And at least you still got some hopes.
- 1:56:18We're mathematically eliminated.
- 1:56:20So a win for us is just playing spoilers.
- 1:56:22So Yep.
- 1:56:23We when we beat the when we beat the cowboys, that that kind of that was the week.
- 1:56:29I think that was the week.
- 1:56:31Yeah.
- 1:56:32Have a great night.
- 1:56:33Have a great one, Jer.
- 1:56:34Nice nice to meet you, man.
- 1:56:38Alright.
- 1:56:39Well, coach, that was cool to see it all come together.
- 1:56:42Our our first show where we had in some other fans of the the opposing team and even some
- 1:56:48other NFC North, fans as well.
- 1:56:51I think that's where I'd like to see this go, because, ultimately, you bring something to the
- 1:56:56table that not a lot of us have, which is the experience on the field in the locker room as a
- 1:57:04coach yourself.
- 1:57:05You see the game in a different way.
- 1:57:07And I think over time, a lot of these fans and fellow podcasters are really going to
- 1:57:14appreciate what you bring to the table.
- 1:57:16So you're kind of our ace in the hole, coach.
- 1:57:18I
- 1:57:19appreciate you.
- 1:57:20I appreciate this opportunity.
- 1:57:22Like I said, you know, when you first came up to me with this, you know, I don't I'm not
- 1:57:29comfortable.
- 1:57:30I don't like being on camera.
- 1:57:32I don't like speaking on camera, but, I mean, this is an opportunity for growth.
- 1:57:37You know, big things can come from this, and, you know, you gotta you gotta live with, live
- 1:57:43outside your comfort zone.
- 1:57:45So we're just gonna get bigger and better.
- 1:57:47Speaking of a platform, tell everybody about the tryouts one more time this weekend, and,
- 1:57:53we'll let you get out of here and get some rest.
- 1:57:56Absolutely.
- 1:57:56I appreciate that.
- 1:57:57You too, though.
- 1:57:58So let's get it.
- 1:58:00This Sunday, December 28, at Toka Soccer Center in Burnsville, we're having tryouts for the
- 1:58:06Wyoming Cavalry, arena football team playing in the AIF Arena Indoor Football League, and, it's
- 1:58:14from 10AM to 1PM.
- 1:58:17I'm look I'm calling all ballers, dogs, you know, beasts, whatever you wanna call yourself.
- 1:58:23If you got game and you, wanna come show it off and, you know, hopefully land a spot on a
- 1:58:29professional team, getting paid to play the game that we all love.
- 1:58:33Come on out.
- 1:58:34Show me what you got.
- 1:58:35Let's get this ring.
- 1:58:38Awesome, coach.
- 1:58:39Well, I hope you have a very merry Christmas.
- 1:58:42Yes, sir.
- 1:58:42You too.
- 1:58:43We
- 1:58:44are, we're gonna have some fun watching some ball this week and, really happy to get to
- 1:58:49spend a lot more time with you.
- 1:58:51We got together on some events this year that I don't think either one of us had on our bingo
- 1:58:56card for the year.
- 1:58:58I got video of all of us together from, from the show up in Hinkley, which was super cool.
- 1:59:06And, yeah, couple of couple of comments here.
- 1:59:10Jimmy, thanks for tuning in, man.
- 1:59:12We appreciate Thank you, Tim.
- 1:59:13For
- 1:59:14for hanging out with us.
- 1:59:16And, yeah, you I agree, man.
- 1:59:18I grew up a bears fan.
- 1:59:20I've seen how toxic that fan base can be.
- 1:59:23I still love a lot of them.
- 1:59:24They're fam some of them are family to me, but I I really appreciate you know, I think what it
- 1:59:31is is that the Vikings and the lions farewell, and the bears fan base has been awful for so
- 1:59:35long.
- 1:59:35They've been living on 85 for fucking forty years now.
- 1:59:38But that the Vikings and lions, like, the teams were so historically kind of it was so many
- 1:59:45tough seasons.
- 1:59:46Right?
- 1:59:47Vikings never having, you know, won a Super Bowl, got some NFL championships.
- 1:59:51Right?
- 1:59:51But no Super Bowl that it it just brings a different breed of fan and just nicer people.
- 1:59:57Right?
- 1:59:57Upper Midwestern people are different.
- 1:59:59Nicole here giving us the strong.
- 2:00:02Thank you, Nicole.
- 2:00:03Appreciate you tuning in.
- 2:00:04Danielle says you look exhausted.
- 2:00:06I I'm sure I do as well.
- 2:00:08The hat's covering it up a little bit.
- 2:00:10But, coach, I just I I love that we get to spend time together like this, man.
- 2:00:15We get to talk ball, and, we're gonna do a lot of good with this show moving forward too.
- 2:00:19So everybody make sure you subscribe to our channel.
- 2:00:23Follow along with our coverage.
- 2:00:24We're gonna be talking, more football as we go through when, we're gonna be doing a lot of
- 2:00:29draft coverage as the season, comes to a close here in the next few weeks.
- 2:00:34So we'll have a lot of draft coverage.
- 2:00:35And then after the draft and the Super Bowl, coach starts his season with the Wyoming
- 2:00:39Cavalry.
- 2:00:40So we're gonna be still covering football.
- 2:00:42It's gonna be indoor football league.
- 2:00:44Right?
- 2:00:45Yep.
- 2:00:46Yep.
- 2:00:46Indoor football league.
- 2:00:47So Yeah.
- 2:00:49So last year, we're more intense.
- 2:00:51Yeah.
- 2:00:51It it never stops here.
- 2:00:53So make sure you give us a follow.
- 2:00:54See in Project Sports Network.
- 2:00:56We're gonna have some great golf, stuff that we'll be doing during the, summer as well.
- 2:01:01So, coach, I'm a be trying to get us on a a bunch of, golf courses in the summer here too.
- 2:01:06So a Merry Christmas to you, Jimmy.
- 2:01:08Thank you, brother, for tuning in.
- 2:01:10We appreciate you.
- 2:01:11And, yeah.
- 2:01:12Hey.
- 2:01:12It's gonna be a fun one on Thursday no matter what.
- 2:01:16And, either way, like I said, I'm not gonna be too disappointed if the lions win because that
- 2:01:20keeps us in the the fourth place schedule.
- 2:01:23But and it gives us an opportunity to go out and still spoil the packers season, to finish
- 2:01:28the season too.
- 2:01:28They got a tough one against the ravens, this week.
- 2:01:31So that ravens team still kinda clawing at their playoff chances.
- 2:01:35Everybody, this has been Vikings United here on the scene, Project Sports Network.
- 2:01:40We appreciate you all, coach Cody.
- 2:01:42Hommeldahl.
- 2:01:43I've been saying your name wrong for a while.
- 2:01:45We live in Bonhomme County, which is H 0 M F E.
- 2:01:48So I've been saying Hommeldahl.
- 2:01:49It's not right.
- 2:01:50It's Hamadol.
- 2:01:51I apologize, coach.
- 2:01:53No worries.
- 2:01:53No worries.
- 2:01:54Thanks for tuning in and joining the show tonight.
- 2:01:57We appreciate you, man.
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- 2:02:14Have a merry Christmas.
- 2:02:15Get that car fixed, and we'll see you soon.
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