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Special Episode - Trump Threatens Civilizational Destruction Of Iran…Is He Serious??? · The Chuck ToddCast

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  Speaker 1: vary and rates may vary. A The debate about Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump and words right, It began all the way in
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  Speaker 1: twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen with the ridiculous Do you
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  Speaker 1: take them seriously? Do you take them literally? And here
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  Speaker 1: we are again, we are in our eleventh year of
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump dominating American politics, and we still don't know
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  Speaker 1: whether we should take his words literally, seriously or both.
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  Speaker 1: He found a way in his latest tweet to be
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  Speaker 1: both menacing and meaningless. If that's possible, he figured it out.
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  Speaker 1: So he tweets out this morning, a whole civilization will
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  Speaker 1: die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want that to happen, but it probably will. Let's just
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  Speaker 1: sit on that for a minute. The sitting president of
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  Speaker 1: the United States is threatening to annihilate an entire civilization.
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  Speaker 1: And we know he's not serious about it. At least
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  Speaker 1: we're like ninety five percent. I'm ninety five percent sure
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  Speaker 1: he's not serious about it. The guy is a chicken hawk.
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  Speaker 1: He's all of those things, right, you know, he's the
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  Speaker 1: classic bully. You punch him in the nose, who'd go
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  Speaker 1: running to mommy to complain and running nose, he will punt,
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  Speaker 1: He will sue somebody than fight back, right that. That
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  Speaker 1: is who he really is. And this is no tough guy.
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  Speaker 1: This is a guy who is you know, no matter
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  Speaker 1: what age he was, he ran from a fight. He
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  Speaker 1: is the classic guy that wants that goaded everybody else
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  Speaker 1: into the fight, and he wants to sit back and watch.
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  Speaker 1: And we all knew those sort of chicken those chicken
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  Speaker 1: hawks and those bullies. I had my own run in
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  Speaker 1: with once, and I remember the feeling of empowerment. Wait
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  Speaker 1: a minute, when I punched back, they just ran and
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  Speaker 1: complained to their mommy. This really happened. That's who he is,
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  Speaker 1: and we know this. But is at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: you sit here and if you really want to go
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  Speaker 1: down a rabbit hole, right Pete Haigseth is just fired.
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  Speaker 1: General's very high up out of nowhere, really for no reason.
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  Speaker 1: And now you're wonder jeez, are they trying to clear
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  Speaker 1: the chain of command of anybody that might get in
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  Speaker 1: the way of some horrendous order that may be given
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  Speaker 1: by the commander in chief? So I understand why some
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  Speaker 1: in the conspiracy minded set have gone down some really
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  Speaker 1: ugly rabbit holes based on this tweet, and it's probably
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  Speaker 1: by design. I should read the rest of it. A
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  Speaker 1: whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to have that happen, but it probably will. However,
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  Speaker 1: now that we have complete and total regime change, where different,
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  Speaker 1: smarter and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionarily his word,
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  Speaker 1: not mine, wonderful can happen. Who knows all caps We
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  Speaker 1: will find out tonight one of the most important moments
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  Speaker 1: in the long and complex history of the world. Forty
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  Speaker 1: seven years of extortion, corruption and death will finally end.
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  Speaker 1: God bless the great people of Iran. So right, the
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  Speaker 1: entire truth post is filled with all sorts of contradictions,
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  Speaker 1: the typical blowhardiness. And you know, there's certainly a discount
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  Speaker 1: that we've all. I'm sure everybody gives their own discount
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  Speaker 1: to Trump language. I discount it probably more than others do,
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  Speaker 1: because I've seen how often his words have been meaningless.
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  Speaker 1: But you can't ever say, you know, it should be
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  Speaker 1: at zero. I mean, you know, I didn't think he
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  Speaker 1: would be this dumb to start a war he didn't
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  Speaker 1: know how to end, which he's clearly done with Iran.
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  Speaker 1: But that's what happens when you clear out any points
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  Speaker 1: of friction, right he is he has created the conditions
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  Speaker 1: in the second term that he is surrounded by, yes people,
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  Speaker 1: nobody is pushing back. Even those that pushback, they do
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  Speaker 1: so so gently that it doesn't even look like a pushback.
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  Speaker 1: But this is some scary stuff. And you know, there's
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  Speaker 1: certainly a part of me that has been concerned that
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  Speaker 1: putting my best Trump brain on right, how does Trump think? Well,
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  Speaker 1: the way Trump would think is Harry Truman dropped the
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  Speaker 1: bomb in Japan's now our ally right. And it's always
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  Speaker 1: the simplest facts that seemed to be the ones he
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  Speaker 1: carries with him. I remember a moment he when before
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  Speaker 1: he decided to fire Comy, he sort of spitballed the
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  Speaker 1: idea during one of my conversations with him in his
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  Speaker 1: first term. Well, everybody like that, everybody hates Comy, And
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't think that's going to work out
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  Speaker 1: the way you think it's going to work out. So
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  Speaker 1: if you were to tell me he actually asked, well,
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  Speaker 1: why not on the idea of dropping a tactical nuke,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think any of us would be shocked. I
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  Speaker 1: really do believe that somebody would remind him that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Middle East is kind of a small place, so
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  Speaker 1: you're going to you tried that, you pretty much could.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know poison millions, kill millions, the after on effects,
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  Speaker 1: the radiation, all that stuff. So I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you have I don't think you have
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  Speaker 1: to take them seriously or excuse me, take them literally.
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  Speaker 1: But we have to. You have to take some of
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  Speaker 1: his threats seriously because he's already followed through to a
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  Speaker 1: point and he's certainly gotten the entire world into this mess.
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  Speaker 1: On this front, it's probably of little comfort, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: I do not believe he's going to do something this rash.
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  Speaker 1: It is worth noting that officially, the news organization AFP
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  Speaker 1: Confirm got a confirmation from the White House that a
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  Speaker 1: nuclear bomb is not being considered for use in Iran.
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  Speaker 1: But just imagine that that had to be asked, and
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  Speaker 1: it's given what he said, what choice did you have?
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  Speaker 1: But as a responsible wire service reporter of just double checking,
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  Speaker 1: is you know, is the nuclear option on the table?
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  Speaker 1: And apparently the White House said no, it is not.
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  Speaker 1: But American credibility is now shit. Okay, I mean he is,
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  Speaker 1: we are are We're a leaderless world the United States.
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  Speaker 1: It's advocate abdicated, it's leadership of the world. We are
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  Speaker 1: now causing more problems than solving. That has not been
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  Speaker 1: what American leadership over the last eighty years has been about.
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  Speaker 1: We're there to try to solve problems. We are now
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  Speaker 1: creating problems. We have we are. We are the source
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  Speaker 1: of energy price spikes around the world, as Daniel Jurgen
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  Speaker 1: told me, the worst energy shock we've ever experienced ever,
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  Speaker 1: all thanks to a war of choice by Donald John Trump.
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  Speaker 1: He's frustrated that he launched a war and the Iranians
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  Speaker 1: fought back. He clearly was either misled into this, felt
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  Speaker 1: cocky because of how easy he thought Venezuela was. But
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  Speaker 1: by the way, he is still overseeing a dictatorship. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, I don't mean to go down that
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  Speaker 1: rabbit hole. But the fact that he's bragging that Venezuela's
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  Speaker 1: a success, it is not a success. It is not
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  Speaker 1: a democracy. Mister president, do you if you want to
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  Speaker 1: know if he cares about democracy? We know the answer
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  Speaker 1: is no. He is preventing it from taking place in Venezuela.
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  Speaker 1: So what do you think he wants anywhere else? I'm
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  Speaker 1: sorry to see people that have cared about this issue
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  Speaker 1: for as long as they have. I'm looking at you,
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  Speaker 1: Marco Rubio, that you're just looking the other way while
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  Speaker 1: he essentially takes advantage of a Maduro puppet and has
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  Speaker 1: made a Maduro puppet a Trump puppet. That what you've
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  Speaker 1: been fighting for? Is that what so many of our
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  Speaker 1: South Florida friends and families have been fighting for, to
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  Speaker 1: turn one puppet into another puppet. So look, I am,
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  Speaker 1: here's the real struggle here. He is now handing propaganda
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  Speaker 1: winds to the Iranians. Right, He's the one using bombastic language.
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  Speaker 1: He's the one using very uncomfortable and infusing religion into
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  Speaker 1: this fight in ways that are a bit crusade like
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  Speaker 1: and a bit and very much on American on this
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  Speaker 1: front and these threats. And he doesn't care if what
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  Speaker 1: is he if what he orders looks like a war crime,
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  Speaker 1: He's not bothered by it at all. Now, look, this
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  Speaker 1: is the same guy that at his rallies, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the only thing that I think, you know, the only
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  Speaker 1: people we have to blame ourselves on this. It's not
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  Speaker 1: as if Donald Trump didn't tell us this is who
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  Speaker 1: he is. This is the same guy that at rally
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  Speaker 1: said I wish we could take him out on a stretcher. Right.
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  Speaker 1: He embraces pugilism, He likes the spectacle of violence. This
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  Speaker 1: is a man who thinks mixed martial arts on the
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  Speaker 1: White House lawn to celebrate America's two hundred and fiftieth
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  Speaker 1: anniversary is an appropriate thing to do. I'm not here
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  Speaker 1: to trash mma. I know a lot of people love it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's the most patriotic thing to do
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  Speaker 1: on the White House lawn on the fourth of July
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  Speaker 1: or for his birthday or whatever the hell it is
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  Speaker 1: that he that he's concocted here. But he has made
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  Speaker 1: it clear he sort of seems to want to play
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  Speaker 1: with these toys, and it's it's beyond irresponsible rhetoric. We've
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  Speaker 1: so we're so far past where are the adults in
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  Speaker 1: the room. If there are any adults that exist in
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  Speaker 1: the in the elected Republican party in Washington, then then
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  Speaker 1: they must be curled up in a fetal position, afraid
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  Speaker 1: of their own shadow, because none of them are speaking up.
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  Speaker 1: There's not a single elected Republican that I've interacted with
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  Speaker 1: that would support anybody speaking this way unless it was
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump. They're so afraid of criticizing Donald Trump that
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  Speaker 1: they won't say anything. And now you can't undermine the
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  Speaker 1: credibility that I mean, it puts us in a situation
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  Speaker 1: where if you undermine the credibility of our commander in
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  Speaker 1: chief and undermind's the credibility the United States, It certainly is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but this war is going to now do
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  Speaker 1: more more long term damage to America's ability to lead
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  Speaker 1: the world to how much repair is going to be
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  Speaker 1: necessary for the next president, regardless of party, and what
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  Speaker 1: they're going to have to do to try to win
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  Speaker 1: back trust from our friends and allies, let alone rivals
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  Speaker 1: and adversaries. And no matter what decision he makes tonight,
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  Speaker 1: he is in some ways already punted away that credibility.
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  Speaker 1: Either he doubles down, doubles down on it and follows
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  Speaker 1: through and commits some atrocities that we can't undo and
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  Speaker 1: will be a stain on the United States for decades,
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  Speaker 1: or a tacos and he we're in this stalemate, in quagmire,
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  Speaker 1: and he continues to, you know, find himself in political
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  Speaker 1: quicksand and he's stuck in his Chinese finger trap, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, and he continues to in some ways hand
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  Speaker 1: you know, we're militarily defeating the Iranians and simultaneously handing
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  Speaker 1: them propaganda tools with his words and his his behavior.
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  Speaker 1: So bottom line is like I called I called these
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  Speaker 1: I called this these words menacing and meaningless we know
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  Speaker 1: they're meaningless, they're intentionally menacing. I guess he thinks this
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  Speaker 1: is some sort of art of the deal. But the
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  Speaker 1: one thing that I don't think he fully understands is
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  Speaker 1: you know what Iranians love to do. Negotiate, and they're
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  Speaker 1: going to negotiate and negotiate and negotiate. They're not coming.
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  Speaker 1: This is a regime that already killed its own people
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  Speaker 1: for protesting. What do you think they're afraid of? That's
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  Speaker 1: the problem he's got here. These threats ring hollow because
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure those in charge of this regime who
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  Speaker 1: are just trying to survive, see any incentive to play
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  Speaker 1: ball here. So on that uncomfortable note, uh, I'll see
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  Speaker 1: you tomorrow with a full episode of the Chuck Podcast.
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