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- 0:00What is going on, beautiful folks?
- 0:02Today we're going to be answering the question, what
- 0:06should you do if you can't avoid seeing your narcissistic ex or
- 0:11parent or whoever? If you, maybe if you work with
- 0:13them, maybe if you have kids together, maybe you, if you see
- 0:16them in public all the time, you go to the same restaurants or
- 0:18bars or whatever. If you're new here, my name is
- 0:20Lee Hammock. I'm a self aware narcissist and
- 0:22welcome to another episode of The Narcissist Code.
- 0:42So boom, welcome back folks. Welcome back, welcome back,
- 0:45narcissistic people. What?
- 0:46What happened? How, what should you do if you
- 0:49can't avoid seeing them? Like if you can't go no contact.
- 0:53That's the most, that's the main thing that people ask.
- 0:55Like what should I do if I can't go no contact?
- 0:56We have kids together, we work together.
- 0:59We've, we go to the same restaurants, we go to the same
- 1:01bars. We're, we're, we're in the same
- 1:03friend groups or friend circles or whatnot.
- 1:05What should you, what should I do?
- 1:07How can I act? What should I, how can I react?
- 1:10You know what I mean? This is the space that so many
- 1:12people fall into, right? This is how a lot of people want
- 1:16to handle it. This is how a lot of people
- 1:17can't handle it and whatnot. So narcissistic people, right?
- 1:22Love it when you can't leave them alone.
- 1:26I know that's not your choice, right?
- 1:27I know it's not a choice to not leave them alone.
- 1:29That's what I'm saying. Like they love it when you are
- 1:31forced to have to deal with them, right?
- 1:34They love it when you're forced to have to communicate with
- 1:37them, when you're forced to have to see them, when you're forced
- 1:41to have to interact with them, when they when they feel like
- 1:43they always have access to you, which is why a lot of times they
- 1:46want to marry you, which is why a lot of times they want to have
- 1:48kids with you, which is why a lot of times they want to move
- 1:51you across the country or move you to a different city, move
- 1:53you to a different area to isolate you, right.
- 1:56They always want to have the access to your reason to reach
- 1:59out to you. That's why sometimes they like
- 2:00they like to dabble, dabble in the coworker, right?
- 2:04They want, they want, they want to dabble with the coworkers and
- 2:06whatnot. They want to have these type of
- 2:07relationship dynamics, these, these spaces that we fall into.
- 2:12So that's why they, they want to trap you in this situation where
- 2:14you can't leave them alone or they want to trap you into
- 2:17situations where they can't intentionally torture you
- 2:21emotionally, right? They can intentionally
- 2:23emotionally torture you because that's the, that's what some of
- 2:26our statistic people do right there, right?
- 2:28They intentionally get you into a space and start to emotionally
- 2:32torture you and emotionally abuse you.
- 2:35It really, really does. It's really, it's really the
- 2:37space that so many people fall into, right?
- 2:40This is how you like, what should you do?
- 2:42Learn step one, learn to control those reactions of yours.
- 2:48Yo, it's going to sound just super just going to sound, I'm
- 2:52not like I'm not talking about a human narcissist or people,
- 2:54right? But you have to learn how to
- 2:57control those reactions because they feed off your reactions.
- 3:00Your reactions, emotional or physical, give them power.
- 3:03So you want to strip them of that power.
- 3:06You have to take a deep breath and learn how to get get get
- 3:09Zen. You know how people like the
- 3:12people, the meditating people be floating into the air.
- 3:14You have to be like that. You have to be at a you have to
- 3:17be at a sit down and be so one with yourself and not reacting
- 3:21that you float into the air when you cross your legs like you
- 3:24just are floating up. You have to, you have to be we,
- 3:32you know, you have to get to that point right there.
- 3:36We don't negotiate with kids. Like, yeah, you don't want to
- 3:39negotiate your emotions with a person.
- 3:41You I'm, I'm putting this on threads right now.
- 3:43We don't negotiate with emotional terrorists.
- 3:48You see what I'm saying? You don't because they will use
- 3:51your emotions. They will hold your emotions,
- 3:53emotions as hostage. You see what I'm saying at Bay.
- 3:56They will use your, you know, weaponize your emotions against
- 3:58you. They will, they will use your
- 4:00emotions to get you to react in a certain type of way, to get
- 4:03you to behave in a certain type of way.
- 4:04This is what a lot of abusive, manipulative narcissists will do
- 4:08because they enjoy doing this type of stuff.
- 4:09They like doing this type of stuff.
- 4:11They it empowers them a lot of times, y'all, it really does
- 4:16like, and this is what I tell the people like get them in, get
- 4:19them in control. Don't give them that power.
- 4:23You have to. Well, it's not fair.
- 4:24Like, yo, I'm not telling you. I'm not saying it.
- 4:27Yeah, of course it's not fair. You're dealing with an abuser is
- 4:30not going to be fair. Dealing with somebody that is
- 4:32trying to abuse you and some of them are trying to hurt you on
- 4:34purpose, it's not going to be fair.
- 4:36But learning to control those reactions can help you out so
- 4:38much because there's there's people I talk to when I do, when
- 4:40I'm doing my coaching calls, when I'm when I'm in my support
- 4:43group, you can find everything@mentalillness.net.
- 4:47I do my coaching calls to my support group, like the stuff
- 4:49that I would do, the stuff that I like, that type of stuff right
- 4:52there when I'm doing my coaching calls, my support group and
- 4:55stuff like that, I tell people like it's not fair, but you have
- 4:57to control those reactions because you sometimes your
- 5:00reactions can get you locked up in jail.
- 5:03Talk to a woman today. She said she reacted, her
- 5:06partner got her locked up, then she had a restraining order put
- 5:09on her. That happens.
- 5:11The victim gets a restraining order put on them because
- 5:13they're reacting to the abuse. Reactive abuse is a thing.
- 5:16You look like the abuser. Control those reactions.
- 5:18Another thing you can do y'all is to take your power back step
- 5:21by step. Baby steps in the right
- 5:22direction because narcissistic people want to make you feel
- 5:24uncomfortable. Like you said, they want to make
- 5:26you feel uncomfortable wherever they are.
- 5:28They want to make you feel like they're you're uncomfortable in
- 5:31their space. So what they what you can do is
- 5:33start. Yeah, take your take your power
- 5:34back. Sometimes can just involve
- 5:36breaking that ice that you can ignore the hell out of them.
- 5:39Yeah, Yeah, you have the ability, the power to ignore the
- 5:41hell out of them. If it's at work, you don't have
- 5:43to communicate with them. You don't have to communicate
- 5:44with them, right. You can ignore them.
- 5:46If that empowers you, you can ignore them, but sometimes it
- 5:49can help you to break the ice around these situations because
- 5:52sometimes you have to be able to speak to them in the work
- 5:54environment. You can keep it cordial, BIFF,
- 5:58brief, affirmative, firm and friendly.
- 6:00You can keep it cordial, high and by friendly.
- 6:04Keep the communication brief, keep it informative, keep it
- 6:06firm and you keep it friendly. Not friends.
- 6:09You don't have to be friends with them.
- 6:10Friendly means hey, how you doing high and by that's
- 6:14friendly friends or asking about your parents, how your night
- 6:17been? How are the cheeks still
- 6:18clapping? Whatever.
- 6:19That's what friends do Friendly, friendly boundaries.
- 6:24You have to be able to set boundaries and things like that
- 6:25because boundaries helps boundaries help help you survive
- 6:30because it's going to be hard. Like I said, if you if you're
- 6:32not dating a Co worker and you're you, the Co worker's
- 6:35interested in you and they got a reputation for being toxic,
- 6:38leave money. Y'all don't get into these
- 6:39situations because y'all don't want to be in a warehouse
- 6:41situation where the Co, this one narcissistic Co worker that
- 6:44slept with like 10 of y'all and you got y'all all on the string
- 6:48and battling each other and looking silly.
- 6:49Y'all come on now, they ain't that damn charming, you know
- 6:53what I'm saying? They can't be that damn charming
- 6:5510 of y'all. You see what I'm saying just
- 6:58now? You have to take your power
- 6:59back. You can keep it cordial.
- 7:01You can allow yourself to move forward.
- 7:02You don't have to give in to that power.
- 7:03You don't have to be friends, you don't have to look, you
- 7:06don't have to attend every argument or conversation that
- 7:09you're invited to high and by Hey, Lee.
- 7:11We we're in the same friend groups.
- 7:13We're in the same. We don't work together.
- 7:14We're in the same friend groups. We have a lot of mutual friends
- 7:17like our families are super close together.
- 7:19You say our families are super close.
- 7:21So what am I supposed to do? Not go to the events?
- 7:23Yeah, you cannot start. You can start not showing up to
- 7:25certain events and try to make people choose between you and
- 7:28them, or you can take your power back, show up to those events
- 7:31and just don't be like yo beef, beef, beef.
- 7:35Be brief and brief, informative, firm and friendly.
- 7:37Or you can Gray rock whatever gives you the power.
- 7:40You don't want to just get into these spaces where they they
- 7:43shut you down and they keep you away from everybody that they
- 7:45have you. They isolate you without
- 7:47necessarily having to isolate you.
- 7:49They isolate you by you, not you.
- 7:52You choosing not to show up in the places because you feel like
- 7:54they're going to be there. Well, Lee, I don't want to go
- 7:56over there because they're going to be there.
- 7:58It's going to shut you the whole life.
- 7:59They're going to shut down a whole faction of your life.
- 8:02Can they work for you? Can they work for you for a
- 8:04little while? Yeah, they can work for you for
- 8:06a little while because they they can help you heal.
- 8:08Going no contact or low contact can help you heal.
- 8:10Right. But that's the thing.
- 8:12Keep it to only necessary contact.
- 8:15Only necessary contact. ONC onk only necessary contact
- 8:22if y'all have kids together and they're trying to trigger you in
- 8:25front of the kids. Goose fraba Wu SA deep breath
- 8:30because of course you want to defend yourself, but sometimes
- 8:32you have to mitigate that in front of the kids.
- 8:33And sometimes they'll try to start arguments in front of the
- 8:35kids because they know you don't want to yell and fight and
- 8:37scream, but they do. And then when you start raising
- 8:41your voices like you doing this in front of the kids, wow wow
- 8:44what a parent. What parent of the you, you are.
- 8:46Look how you're acting in front of our children.
- 8:48You're the parent of the year Rabble, rabble rabble, blah blah
- 8:51blah, Boo Boo Boo BBB. This happens to so many people,
- 8:55y'all, I promise you, this is the one of the ways you combat
- 8:59this is by taking your power back and controlling those.
- 9:01I, I keep going back to controlling your reactions
- 9:04because it's so important. It just is, y'all, controlling
- 9:08your reactions is a superpower that you need to develop, that
- 9:11you need to practice. It's a it's a, it's a muscle
- 9:13that you need to work out. Look controlling your reactions.
- 9:17It looks like this at first. This is how this is how you're
- 9:19you're controlling your reactions muscle looks at first,
- 9:22you ain't worked it out. You don't know how to control
- 9:24those reactions, Lee. I just react to everything, but
- 9:26we go no contact. You start watching videos, you
- 9:29start doing, you see what I'm saying?
- 9:30You start building these, you start building, you start
- 9:32reading books. So I've got no contact and no
- 9:34contact muscle. They had no contact.
- 9:36They low contact muscle. They're controlling your
- 9:38reaction muscle. They just start it just start
- 9:40building itself up. You have to build it up.
- 9:42You have to work it out like a muscle.
- 9:45It's hard to turn it, hard to turn it on and off like a light
- 9:47switch, right? So you want to go no contact or
- 9:50low contact, a brief, informative, firm and friendly
- 9:52to be able to control those reactions.
- 9:53You want to get control of those reactions.
- 9:55The more you get control of your reactions, the stronger and the
- 9:58better off you will be. The better your life will be,
- 10:01the better quality of life you will live because you're in
- 10:03control of your reactions. You just are.
- 10:06It empowers you to be in control of your reaction.
- 10:08You're stronger, you're better off when you are in control of
- 10:11your reactions. You just absolutely are y'all.
- 10:14You are. So keep it brief.
- 10:15Keep it if keep it brief, informative, firm and friendly.
- 10:18If you have to see this person in public, if you have to see
- 10:20this person at work, BIFF Gray Rock low contact.
- 10:24You don't have to talk to him if it's not your supervisor or
- 10:26boss, y'all not in the same office setting.
- 10:28You're just on the same floor. If you don't have to contact
- 10:31them, don't contact them. You don't want to get to the
- 10:33point where you just have to avoid them every single day for
- 10:35a year or 234510 years. Y'all, that's just you have to
- 10:38you have to you're working around them all the time.
- 10:40You just like trying to they're, they go to the water cooler at
- 10:4310:00. I can't go there at 10.
- 10:45You don't get to the point where you you get tired of changing
- 10:47your patterns around just to to avoid them.
- 10:50Take your power back little by little, step by step, piece by
- 10:53piece. It works y'all.
- 10:55It can help you out. Low contact only only necessary
- 10:58contact ONC you only do a necessary contact.
- 11:01We're not going above beyond. We're not trying to establish a
- 11:03friendship. I have to be friends.
- 11:04No, you don't have to be friends.
- 11:05You can be friendly. You don't have to be friends
- 11:07with this person because y'all work together.
- 11:09Y'all have the same friend groups or whatever best as they
- 11:11be abusive. Hell no, we don't be friend, not
- 11:14be friend and abusers. We're not being friends with
- 11:16abusers like abusive people like that, y'all.
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