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Mac & Bone Hour 2: Projecting the Next HOF Panther · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:21
  Speaker 1: When Cam was on the field, it was the best
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: player on the field. He was the biggest, most physically
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: dominant person on the field. And we used to walk out.
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: I remember when we'd play. You know, you play NFC teams,
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: you know, especially inside the division, they know who Cam is.
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: But when you would go play AFC games and AFC
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: teams and they would come in or we'd go there
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: and we walk out for the coin toss, you could
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: see the faces of the guys walking out like, oh
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: my gosh, he's gigantic. And I felt like he got
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: bigger on game days because you know, obviously he had
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: his shoulder pads on, and later in his career at
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: practice he would just wear these like little shell things
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: and practice. So then the only time he'd really have
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: his pads on would be during games.
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: He wore these big rib protectors.
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: He had these like shin guards on, these like foam
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  Speaker 1: shin guards, and it's he was the biggest person on
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: the field, and then he was dominant and he could
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: run past guys, through guys, around guys, jump over guys.
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  Speaker 1: He could throw the ball anywhere on the field, and
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: when he was at his best, he was the best
• 1:25
  Speaker 1: player on the field at all time.
• 1:28
  Speaker 3: That is Luke Keighley last week, that was at his
• 1:31
  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame press conference last Thursday, was asked about
• 1:35
  Speaker 3: his former teammate Cam Newton's candidacy for the Hall of Fame.
• 1:40
  Speaker 3: He supported him. He actually pumped up Greg Olsen as well.
• 1:44
  Speaker 3: Two guys bone that will be discussed in this conversation.
• 1:48
  Speaker 3: We've been on a run lately with Hall of famers Pep,
• 1:52
  Speaker 3: Sam Mills, Luke Keighley. Luke was our first one bone
• 1:55
  Speaker 3: that was exclusively a panther. Steve Smith, how quick well
• 2:00
  Speaker 3: he get in as a conversation we can have as well,
• 2:02
  Speaker 3: but we definitely got to talk about Cam and Greg
• 2:05
  Speaker 3: and some of these others. Can we expect more panthers
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  Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame. I did want to mention
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  Speaker 3: because I don't know. I don't know if you saw
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  Speaker 3: this bone. There were a lot of people on social
• 2:14
  Speaker 3: media pointing out that Luke did not mention Cam in
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  Speaker 3: the speech on Saturday, and then people were like, I
• 2:21
  Speaker 3: didn't even see Cam there. Cam was definitely there on
• 2:24
  Speaker 3: Friday night. I don't know what he was at the
• 2:26
  Speaker 3: Gold Jacket dinner. Yeah, I definitely saw him on Friday
• 2:30
  Speaker 3: video from the Gold Jacket dinner when Pep put Luke's
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  Speaker 3: jacket on him. I don't know about Saturday. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: see him necessarily on Saturday. I don't know if he had
• 2:37
  Speaker 3: something else going on, but he did make it a
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  Speaker 3: point to get there on Friday. I will admit I
• 2:42
  Speaker 3: was a little bit surprise Bone that Luke did not
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  Speaker 3: mention Cam in the speech itself.
• 2:49
  Speaker 2: I was a little bit surprised.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think we need to like make up like
• 2:52
  Speaker 3: rumors that they hate each other. Twitter tried, but you
• 2:55
  Speaker 3: heard him talking about him there right there. Yeah, so
• 2:58
  Speaker 3: maybe people didn't hear that. But yeah, it was surprising
• 3:01
  Speaker 3: that he wasn't mentioned. But I don't I wouldn't want
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  Speaker 3: too much into that. No, I don't think we need to,
• 3:06
  Speaker 3: said Twitter always looking to start something, Baby, always looking
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  Speaker 3: to We would never try to start things here on
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  Speaker 3: the mack and bout shit once. So anyway, that's kind
• 3:15
  Speaker 3: of some of the details we're already getting texted about.
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  Speaker 3: Cam is like the most polarizing one. When we discussed
• 3:21
  Speaker 3: this his Hall of Fame case, and why would it
• 3:24
  Speaker 3: be any other way, Bone, Cam was polarizing every minute
• 3:28
  Speaker 3: of his career here in Charlotte. The Smitty thing, how
• 3:33
  Speaker 3: do you feel about this? Like he's getting in, it's
• 3:35
  Speaker 3: just a matter of when, and hopefully it's soon. My
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  Speaker 3: fear is it's gonna be a while.
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  Speaker 2: Gonna be a while.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, god, oh, he's getting louder with that as well.
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  Speaker 3: That what like, that's my fear bone. I mean, you
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  Speaker 3: can't keep a dude with those numbers out of the
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  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. Over fourteen thousand yards, thousand catches.
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  Speaker 2: You can't keep.
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  Speaker 3: You can't keep that triple Crown winner receiving Triple Crown
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  Speaker 3: winner at his best in the postseason, but amazing in
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  Speaker 3: the postseason.
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  Speaker 2: To your point, I person, I'm biased.
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  Speaker 3: I believe it passing offense, Well, then that's my biggest
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  Speaker 3: case is like he and Reggie Wayne have essentially the
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  Speaker 3: same numbers for their career. Reggie Wayne played with Peyton
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  Speaker 3: Manning in a aired out offense, yes, and Smitty was
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  Speaker 3: with John Fox Ron River with defensive coaches. You know,
• 4:33
  Speaker 3: even in Baltimore they're a run first team when he
• 4:35
  Speaker 3: went to Baltimore. So that's like always been my biggest
• 4:38
  Speaker 3: thing is if you swapped Tory Holts, another one that's
• 4:41
  Speaker 3: up for it right now, if you swapped where Smitty
• 4:46
  Speaker 3: was and where those guys were and put him with
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  Speaker 3: the rams of the Colts, are you freaking kidding me?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it would be any I don't think
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  Speaker 3: there would be any comparison whatsoever.
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  Speaker 4: He's eighth all time in receiving yards. Think about that,
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  Speaker 4: playing in that offense that did highlight the receiving game
• 5:01
  Speaker 4: as much as others. Eighth all time receiving yards, that's
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  Speaker 4: insane to think about. If he wasn't an offense like
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  Speaker 4: the other guys, how high would he go up.
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  Speaker 3: Here's but my fear is bone that he's gonna have
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  Speaker 3: to wait like like like he's already waited a few years.
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  Speaker 3: I'm starting to worry it's gonna it's gonna take time,
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  Speaker 3: like and Quin Bolden's another guy that's up there. I
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  Speaker 3: mentioned Holt and Reggie Wayne. Yes, Antonio Brown soon and
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  Speaker 3: that's an interesting case. Yeah, I mean for first team
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  Speaker 3: All pros. I mean, player wise, he should be in
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  Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame easy. He's just such another Julio
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  Speaker 3: Jones is coming up soon too.
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  Speaker 4: Smitty's also fourteenth all time and catches as well, so
• 5:42
  Speaker 4: he's his numbers are ridicted in the main category. He's
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  Speaker 4: top fifteen in another. Here's the difference though, between Smitty
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  Speaker 4: Camvin Olsen.
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  Speaker 2: We can debate Cam and Olsen.
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  Speaker 3: Smitty's getting in. It's just how long is he gonna
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  Speaker 3: have to wait? And it ticks me off every year.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm just I don't know, Maybe I'm just being
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  Speaker 3: a panther worry wart here. It wouldn't be the first time,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm just looking at who's out there, and like,
• 6:07
  Speaker 3: what do they keep calling it? The pecking order? Right
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  Speaker 3: the Q you know what I mean. There's this wide
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  Speaker 3: receiver line there, and it's like, to me, he should
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  Speaker 3: be in front of that line. I think he was
• 6:16
  Speaker 3: better in Bolden. I think he was better than Tory Holt.
• 6:18
  Speaker 3: I think he was better than Reggie Wayne. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he should be at the front of that line. But
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  Speaker 3: I almost feel like they group them all together and
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  Speaker 3: then go to like who's been waiting the longest type thing.
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  Speaker 3: But but you're right, I don't think anybody will ever argue,
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  Speaker 3: and if they do, I think we'll laugh on the
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  Speaker 3: hell out of here. If you like, I don't think
• 6:38
  Speaker 3: anybody's gonna really make the case for Smith, but not to.
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: The camera. Thank you DVR day.
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  Speaker 3: The Cam one is is the polarizing one. I know
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  Speaker 3: a lot of fans think he's gonna go into the
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  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. I just don't see it happening, man.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if he played long enough. He had
• 6:59
  Speaker 3: nine years Bone where he was the starter, and how
• 7:02
  Speaker 3: many of these quarterbacks Bone are playing well in the
• 7:04
  Speaker 3: double digit seasons now?
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  Speaker 4: I think you know, there is a difference between a
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  Speaker 4: Hall of Fame talent like Luke was talking about, in
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  Speaker 4: a Hall of Fame resume, you have to merge the
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  Speaker 4: two together. And I think Cam was a Hall of
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  Speaker 4: Fame talent. He had a hall he had Hall of
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  Speaker 4: Fame years. I don't know if his resume is full
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  Speaker 4: enough to get in the Hall of Fame though hall
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  Speaker 4: of Fame talent. But like you said, is there enough?
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  Speaker 4: There is there enough Hall of Fame years there Like
• 7:31
  Speaker 4: Luke back had all didn't play a long time, they
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  Speaker 4: were all Hall of Fame years. He's seven all pro
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  Speaker 4: years out of the Hall of Fame. When you don't
• 7:39
  Speaker 4: play a long time, you have to have almost every
• 7:41
  Speaker 4: one of those years be at a certain level, and
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  Speaker 4: unfortunately for Cam and not every year it was a
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  Speaker 4: Hall of Fame level.
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  Speaker 3: The how about how about this stat from Luke Seven
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  Speaker 3: out of eight years he was either first or second
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  Speaker 3: All Pro. The only two players with a higher All
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  Speaker 3: Pro percentage in terms of seasons they were All Pro
• 8:01
  Speaker 3: for seasons in the league Jim Brown and Barry Sanders.
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  Speaker 3: That's the list. Yeah, that's the list. Luke Keigley's on
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  Speaker 3: to your point.
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  Speaker 4: But anyway, as Xander's another guy that walked away when
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  Speaker 4: he's still had some laugh.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Luke's second youngest thirty five years of age, and
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  Speaker 3: then the Hall of Fame only Gail Sanders. Gail Sayers
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  Speaker 3: was younger, and he also cut his career short after
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  Speaker 3: eight seasons. But Luke Keigley has so much life to live,
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  Speaker 3: and he's got a gold jacket already. It's crazy. But
• 8:29
  Speaker 3: do you think Luke's going to get arrogant and just
• 8:30
  Speaker 3: wears gold jacket around town? I do not see that
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  Speaker 3: at all. I did anything that draws attention to himself.
• 8:36
  Speaker 3: Bone you can count on him not doing. He might
• 8:38
  Speaker 3: let somebody else wear, Hey, go wear this for me.
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  Speaker 3: The cam thing is they're going to tear apart the
• 8:43
  Speaker 3: fact he only had three winning seasons out of his
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  Speaker 3: nine years as a starter the voters. He's so polarizing
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  Speaker 3: with media members as it is as a player. Right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: some people would swear by him, like he has the
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  Speaker 3: second most rushyard, yes, rushing touchdowns and third most rushing
• 9:02
  Speaker 3: yards ever by a quarterback. But my fear is the
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  Speaker 3: media never valued that. Like I don't think they ever
• 9:08
  Speaker 3: valued his running and how he was the key to
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  Speaker 3: our entire successful run offense when he was in his prime,
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  Speaker 3: So why would they value it when he's not. Not
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  Speaker 3: to mention bone, there's just there's other quarterbacks. Brady's coming
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  Speaker 3: up soon, Ben's coming up next year, Eli's out there.
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  Speaker 3: I just I don't think it's happening. I think Cam
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  Speaker 3: ends up being like Hall of very good.
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  Speaker 4: Unfortunately, you also wonder too how much did the did
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  Speaker 4: the running end up being the detriment by the end
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  Speaker 4: with the body. I know that the hit by why
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  Speaker 4: is what we talk about, but his running style, his
• 9:44
  Speaker 4: physicality that had to take a toll on the shoulder
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  Speaker 4: as he went along.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean he couldn't know. He'd just sit
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  Speaker 3: back in the pocket sacrifice a little bit there of that.
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  Speaker 3: Although I will point out the shoulder injury initially happened
• 9:56
  Speaker 3: when he was making a tackle on an interception. Then
• 9:59
  Speaker 3: the next moment with the shoulder that we know of
• 10:01
  Speaker 3: was the hit in the pocket. But yeah, that can
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: that can definitely play a factor.
• 10:06
  Speaker 4: I have a take back on the Olsen part of this.
• 10:09
  Speaker 4: I think Olsen long term, I don't mean in the
• 10:12
  Speaker 4: immediate I think Olsen long term has a better chance
• 10:16
  Speaker 4: of getting in than Cam does, do you, because, as
• 10:18
  Speaker 4: set from Concord points out, sometimes when you're on the
• 10:22
  Speaker 4: front lines of television in the broadcasting community, it keeps
• 10:26
  Speaker 4: your profile elevated. I think olsin Mac eventually down the
• 10:30
  Speaker 4: line will get in. And it's not far fetched to
• 10:33
  Speaker 4: think that if he continues to do broadcasting, but see
• 10:36
  Speaker 4: want to do coaching, which he's talked about before. If
• 10:38
  Speaker 4: Olsen continues broadcasting, he might get in the Hall of
• 10:41
  Speaker 4: Fame as a broadcaster for crying out loud. That's not
• 10:43
  Speaker 4: out of the all possibility either. That definitely helps.
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: Right when you're just front and center like that every week,
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: keeping your name out there, He's going to continue to
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: impress people with his football acumen.
• 10:55
  Speaker 4: So I do maybe making a good maybe being on
• 10:58
  Speaker 4: ESPN a lot helps Smitty too. It certainly did wonders
• 11:01
  Speaker 4: back for Chris Carter. Remember Chris Carter wasn't getting in
• 11:04
  Speaker 4: for a while, and at the time it was like
• 11:06
  Speaker 4: the more he was on television, the more people talked
• 11:09
  Speaker 4: about how great he was as a player. So maybe
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  Speaker 4: that helps Smitty too, if he gets on the if
• 11:13
  Speaker 4: he's on First Take with Steven A, if he's doing more,
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  Speaker 4: not that he's not on TV now, but if he's
• 11:18
  Speaker 4: on ESPN. I do wonder if that helps out the profile,
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  Speaker 4: will I do?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'd love to see it for Greg because
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: he's such a good dude man and he and he
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: he was so damn good. First tight end ever have
• 11:33
  Speaker 3: three straight thousand yards seas, so no one had ever
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: done it to that point. And now the game is
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: changing and I feel like that, you know, some of
• 11:39
  Speaker 3: the numbers for tight ends have gotten bigger and bigger
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  Speaker 3: since Greg did that, but at that time, no one
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: had ever done it. The issue is Bone, no All per,
• 11:48
  Speaker 3: no first team All Pro, and only three Pro Bowls,
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  Speaker 3: And there's a fair amount of tight ends Bone that
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: had more All Pros and Pro Bowls that have not
• 11:57
  Speaker 3: gone in sojas. He was one of those guys Win
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: and Gronk are gonna get in before him, like he
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I fear Smitty is our only guy right now.
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  Speaker 5: Indefensive though, sorry Mac, he did play like in the
• 12:13
  Speaker 5: golden era of like tight end play, where like there
• 12:17
  Speaker 5: were great multiple tight ends in both the NFC and
• 12:21
  Speaker 5: the AFC. Like when I was a youngin and I
• 12:24
  Speaker 5: got into football, you had like Jason Witten and you
• 12:27
  Speaker 5: had Tony Gonzalz whose were the two names you got
• 12:28
  Speaker 5: told were the two best tight ends in football. But
• 12:31
  Speaker 5: like as Olsen was emerging, Gates what Gates and Gates? Okay,
• 12:35
  Speaker 5: Antonio Gates. But when Olsen was emerging, look at what
• 12:38
  Speaker 5: you know? You had Gronk, Kelsey was doing his thing
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  Speaker 5: up there in Kansas City. You had multiple Jimmy Graham
• 12:45
  Speaker 5: with the Saints, Gonzales Jack like you would Butch. You
• 12:50
  Speaker 5: had a great number of tight ends in both the
• 12:52
  Speaker 5: NFC in the AFC. So I do think that might
• 12:57
  Speaker 5: might help him. It also might hurt him, as the
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  Speaker 5: fact that he had all these great seasons, but they
• 13:02
  Speaker 5: get overlooked by the fact there were other great tight
• 13:04
  Speaker 5: ends in the league.
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody's shouting out Khalil. We always bring Khalil up
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  Speaker 3: in these discussions. Its underrated panther of all time five
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  Speaker 3: Pro bowler, He's definitely on the list. He's definitely on
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  Speaker 3: the list. Five Pro Bowls in essentially nine years as
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  Speaker 3: a starter. But I go to the same thing. I'm
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: looking at the list of centers that aren't in the
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  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame Bone and there's guys with, you know,
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  Speaker 3: more Pro Bowls, more All Pros than Ryan Kley had
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: two first team All Pros. But there's guys that kind
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: of are above him, like Jason Kelsey. Everybody leaves is
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: going to go in talk about being in the media
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  Speaker 3: helping your cause, But Jeff Saturday's not in, Alex Mack's
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  Speaker 3: not in, Olan Krutz isn't in, Matt Burke isn't in.
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  Speaker 3: They all have more Pro Bowls than Khalil. So I
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: don't know, man, I'm afraid Smithy's it. I don't mean
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: to be negative today after we had this awesome Luke weekend,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm afraid Smithy's gonna have to wait too long.
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  Speaker 2: He already has. And then I'm worried these guys don't
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  Speaker 2: get it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Khalil probably needs a couple more All Pro years, right,
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: he's got one All Pro. He had two or three
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  Speaker 4: All Pro even second team All pros. I think you'd
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: have a better case there, Mac. This is not a
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: Hall of Fame take, but this is the the Panthers.
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: Is it the Wall of Honor? The Hall of Honor?
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: The Hall of honor at some point here and I'm
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: sure they will now that he's not coaching in the
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: league right now, it's it's it's gonna get time to
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: honor Ron Rivera at some point, right, not only the accomplishments,
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: but you look at how much that crew respects and
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: loves him. I think at some point temper, it's time
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: to honor Ron Rivera. Oh, definitely, definitely.
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: And you're not just saying this because he did the
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  Speaker 3: most amazing Mack and Boon Show interview on Friday.
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  Speaker 4: No, I've said that long before that. But yeah, it's
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: it's you see how the guys love him. He was
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: part of the best, one of the leaders of the
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: best run of Panther history, if not the best run
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: of Panther history. It's time to put his name up
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  Speaker 4: there with the other with the guys. One hundred percent.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 3: Man, couldn't happen to a better person. I'll tell you
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: this as I listened to Ron tell us stories and
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: if y'all didn't hear the interview, it's amazing. Included the
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: story of Charles Tillman putting a live alligator in Ron
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: shower in twenty fifteen. I mean, the stories he was
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: telling were just amazing about Luke and about all these
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: guys and what made this team so special, and he
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: was big responsible for it. Even Luke brought it up
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: during the last week or so. The way he let
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: everybody be themselves. Let Cam be cam Le tdb T.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: You know, each person had their own personality and he
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: let them. I love the way he coached like that.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: Pete Carroll coach like that, right, letting those guys kind
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: of be themselves. Harbaugh and Baltimore coach like that. And
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: I just I really they're grown men. You know, no
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: offense to Tom Coffin. He won two Super Bowls doing
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: it his way, but he wanted everybody to be like
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: some sort of like military officer for him. Yeah, you know,
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: and I just I just like that approach to doing it.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: Let's see what people are saying on the text line
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  Speaker 3: seven oh four five, seven oh nine, six' Ten Panthers
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  Speaker 3: Steve vis Aka Panther wien he has calling me a
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: weenie for being too. Negative Big drew, says what About Jordan?
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  Speaker 3: Gross very good? PLAYER i don't think he gets into
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  Speaker 3: The hall Of fame conversation, though, Bone, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: NO i would think very good tackle, though, man no
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  Speaker 3: doubt about. It this dude, says how the heck Is
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Haines king not coming up during these? Conversations now he's,
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: hurt he would have been if he didn't get. Hurt
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: we're not talking about the Obvious hall of famers first. Ballot, Baby,
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah Haines king with a hamstring injury and won't play this.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Week.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Sadly, uh let's see here this textas Says Thomas davis
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: should be in this discussion as. Well, NO i don't
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: THINK i don't think he gets in The hall Of fame. Conversation,
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: BONE i.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Don't think so. Either you, know he think he.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: Is he's A hall Of famer to us, here BUT
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: i don't know if he's going to be A hall
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: Of famer with the.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: VOTERS i still think, again much Like.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: KHALIL i look at all pros a lot as well
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: when it comes to like analyzing these. Things he had
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: One All pro. Year if he had a few, MORE
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: i think he may have a. Chance BUT i.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: DON'T i don't think he's gonna Get and what do
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: you have Three Pro?
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Bowls?
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: YEAH i feel like like he was really freaking. Good But, luke,
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: yeah AND i AND i don't want to be rude about, it,
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: man because he was. Unbelievable it's funny his career didn't
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: reach that level until after the two torn a.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Cls remember early, on like he started as kind of a.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Safety he was All he was drafted in a way
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: to be The Michael vick. Stopper, yes you, know remember
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: that that specific hybrid role safety linebacker to kind of
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Stop Michael vick because he freaking tortured us all the.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Time and it took a while for him to kind
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: of find his.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Footing but, man once he, did which is crazy because
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: after two torn, acls but, man he took. Off AND
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: i don't know if it was enough at that high.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Level if he played at that level for the entire,
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: CAREER i think we might have something or three THREE
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: a cls THREE a cls, right three a Cls?
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah my short eningm inn ac yel? Tear what's wrong with?
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Me that three or? Two yeah's it wrong with?
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: Me?
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Man that's the.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Thing guys have come back from. Two i'm Slapping panther
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: back right. Now Pether, mack how dare you short change both.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Sides of your? Checks that's a part that wasn't a
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: hard enough. Stuff i'm here get both. Sides thank, you.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: FELLOWS i appreciate the.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Love when we come, back Our hall Of famer in the,
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: Building Jim's okie of The Panther Radio networking, studio we'll
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: talk about the game from last, Week lou's career and
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: camp so far On Sports radio ninety two seven W.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Fnz i'll start With Haines.
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: King.
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: Uh Hains king has a little bit of The Rock
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: purty early on in, him And i'm not saying he's
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: going to become that, player But Rock purty started forty
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: plus games At Iowa state was a really good, athlete
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: as Is Haines king just understood like how to just
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: consistently move the ball down the field and was very
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: confident throwing the, football whether in the pocket or on the,
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: move and So i'm not saying that he's going to
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: become this starting quarterback for AN Nfc championship contending football.
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: Team But Haines king was a highly recruited player With
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: Jimbo fisher To TEXAS a AND m for a, reason
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: and then he Got Georgia tech to become a very
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: good football. Team SO i wouldn't be surprised If Haines
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: king bills off last night and just becomes a name
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: over the next couple of years that people throw. Around
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: trade whatever has a chance to have a good.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Career Dan orlovsky On, friday before we knew That Haines
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: king injured his hamstring and As Dave canalis, said most
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: likely will not play this, Week orlovsky goes with the Brock.
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: PURDY i was happy That Dan orlovsky did not go
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: with a Young Dan orlovsky comparison because it reminds me of,
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: myself like WHEN i stepped out of the back of
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: the end.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Zone that's what you don't want to hear from. Him very,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: true very. True he's already goten being.
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: Traded his whole career is already planned, out and he's
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: a guy to go talking about. TRADING i was, like
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: he played three quarters of one preseason.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: GAME i WISH i could say bone that we didn't
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: get caught up in some of these conversations.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: On, FRIDAY i get the.
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: Hype barber's, like, why how's he got trades?
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Happening it's it was a little.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: Embarrassing, now who didn't mention it when The hall Of
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: fame speech, Ego, now all of a, sudden.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Second biggest star of the weekend Was Haines. King it
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: sucks he Has king was in the crowd wearing a gold.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Jacket this it sucks he got hurt man BECAUSE i
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: did want to see, more you, know in all, seriously
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: the momentum of what he did.
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: Still coming still.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Long, yeah we'll, see we'll see how long this injury
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: is going to.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: BE i was, like we knew he could run around
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: and make, plays, right that's how he became Acc player
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: of The year last year At Georgia.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Tech but just sitting in the, pocket he made.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: A few throws where it's, like you, KNOW i bet
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of scouts out, there, like all, right
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: you know he wasn't drafted for a. Reason it was
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: BECAUSE i don't think people thought he could sit in
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: the pocket and make those big TIME nfl.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Throws he made a few of.
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: Those, YEAH i know these are just you, know college
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: stats as opposed to like what you're, saying which is a.
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: REALITY i think people view as a runner more than
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: a passer coming out of. College, however AS Acc player
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: of The, year completed seventy percent of his passes last
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: year through for almost three thousand, Yards so it wasn't
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: as if he was like fifty percent and through for
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: fifteen hundred. Yards SO i think it's it's all, there
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: son of a, coach AND i think a lot of
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: you guys watched the. Game it's just the eyeball test
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: of just the bootlegs and the things he was doing
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: off of, that and you could clearly see he wasn't
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: just taking first. Routes he was going through progressions and
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: working the. Offense so AND i was glad to the
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: Coach insick let him kind of open it up and
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: run the whole playbook. There and then when the the
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: chips were down and it's that last, drive he's got
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: to run a couple of, times the twenty eight yarder
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: and obviously the five yard touchdown. Run SO i think
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: there's a lot to, like and there's a lot of.
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: Potential but again it was one, game one, showing but
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: they had to have liked what they saw in spring
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: practice and in this training camp to give him that
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: body of work in this.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: Game he's also. Old he enters the league older Than,
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: Brice like he's twenty. Five he's twenty six In. January
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: so he's a guy that's seen a lot in his football.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Life when you watch, him we marvel at even in,
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: college never really gets. Rattled he never seems the, moment
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: never really seems like it's too big.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: For him in his.
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: Personality, no he didn't have like legitury feet and all
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: those things you see a lot of times out there
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: with a young. Quarterback and again first pro football game
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: that he's, playing preseason. Game BUT i, thought, again just
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: looked very smooth and in, control decisive in a lot
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: of those, Throws like there were times when they were
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: running no huddle and sometimes when he had time he
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: was going through, progressions but also when he knew they
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: had to get out of, bounds you, know just immediately
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: like locking in and pre snap Thinking i'm gonna throw
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: to that out side. Receiver so you can catch the
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: out route and go out of. BOUNDS i, mean just
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: a lot of intuitive like stuff that comes from just
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: playing at a high level for a long.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Time very encouraging.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Start he's, injured so they Brought kyle Trask in Who
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: canalis and Inzig no from their year with him In.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Tampa what as far as as far as the preseason game,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: went it was it was basically just depth. GUYS i,
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: MEAN i think the only guys that are starters on
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: the depth chart that played Were Trevin wallace And Cam.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: JACKSON i think we're like the only ones is. There
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: do you take anything away like about the depth in
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: a good way, maybe or or or.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: In a question mark way at.
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: ALL i think if you look at the game in its,
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: entirety we could be sitting here Doing good Morning Arizona
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: cardinals football talk and saying how good their quarterbacks look
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: against our? Defense SO i think you, have you, know
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: you have to look At Carson beck looked really smooth,
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: again rookie third round, pick oh.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Yea they made him look Like Montee tea out of.
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: Nineteen and Then Keidon slovas comes in out OF byu
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: second year player nine out of, ten so they complete
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: twenty four out of twenty, Nine So i'm sure, defensively,
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: again backups versus, backups they'd like to have done. Better
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: but you Mentioned Trevin, wallace but Also Shaw, Smith, Wade Corey.
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: THORNTON i, think you know at that nickel, spot there's
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: some competitions to are going on within that. Defense but
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: again these are, evaluations which is nice to have that
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: fourth preseason game in this case as your first one
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: where you can kind of look at the depth in your,
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: roster and you keep seeing every day almost they're making
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: roster changes and moving around different pieces and bringing in
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: guys and letting go of, guys even now early in
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: the training camp to really get a sense of like
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: who are going to be battling for these final spots on.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: The fifty three man.
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: Roster but again there's not a ton of like you're
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: gonna show like a bunch of exotic blitzes and do
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: different things like that that you would in the regular.
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: Season but, OFFENSIVELY i thought lots to like about. It
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: and then, defensively if you're going to, evaluate you, know
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: backups against, backups you'd like to not give up two
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: eighty two passing on hundred forty three rushing in the.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Game feels Like metschi And Jimmy Horn. Jr might be
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: battling for that receiver spot just from what it appears
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: to us a weed on who they get it and
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: how do you think they looked the other.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: NIGHT i, think you, know both of them showed some good.
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: Things and that was the one Miss Haynes king had
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: was could have been a touchdown Past Jimmy horn that
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: was not on jams behind. Him BUT i, think you,
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: Know mechi did some good things out. There, obviously we've
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: been talking About JESSE. M reid AND i think a
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: lot of folks feel like he's ahead of those guys
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: as far as having a roster opportunity, here AND i
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: think with the offense they run and the fact Like
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: reid obviously had the longer kick return as, well if
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: you could do special, teams we could see. MINIMUM i
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: think seven receivers on the active. Roster of, course game
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: day probably check off one or two of those. Guys But,
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: MECHI i, thought looked really smooth and he brings more
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: veteran aspect to. It Jimmy horn did have that one
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: one catchers had elusive and made a couple defenders miss
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: and got a couple more yards out of. That so
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: these are all guys that are like kind of like
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: think even with that injury we talked about The, brasle
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: there's a lot of, COMPETITION i, think more so at
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: that position than any other position offense or. Defense on
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: the roster is that depth of wide, receiver.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: No doubt out and All you're, right all those depth
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: guys made a good, showing like.
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: And David, moore who's also just been around the link
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: for a long. Time it just always does exactly what
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: you need and can do special.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Teams, yeah And David moore as the right.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: PROFESSOR i have come around On David moore WHERE i
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: used to in the past be, Like, okay surely there's
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: someone with more upside where where who can replace him
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: on the. Roster now it just seems like you just accept.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: It Dave canalis wants a veteran like, that and it
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: does make sense with the young.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Guys they have not to mention what did what Did
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: canalis call Him VITAMIN d one a.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Day you get one play a day from, him like
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: he will make there will be big third and sevens
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: where It's David moore moving to, change you, know.
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: And there are, others but you can count on him
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: to run the correct route to be where he's supposed
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: to be to help. Block, obviously you, Know bryce And
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: tremaine is a given that he'll be on the roster
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: because of the combination of what he does as a,
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: receiver and he can do special, teams and obviously of
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: great value our guys Like bryce And tremaine and some
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: others who could play all three of the receiver. Positions that,
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: way they could be multiple how they line, up not be,
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: predictable be able to put Te mac in the slot
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: at times and do different. Things SO i think they
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: really valued those receivers that can play all three.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Positions, definitely.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Definitely Jim zochi with us a little view from the
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: booth preseason edition here on The mac And Bone.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Show what's going on over? There, Bone what do you.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: THINK i was gonna Ask zoey any concerned About Derek
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: brown's knee right?
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: Now you know he don't let them sor, knee but
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: you rather hear soor knee in Early august than Early.
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: September so it doesn't sound like anyway he's been out
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: at practice working with some of the guys and the
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: rehab to return part of the field out, there but not,
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: now but hopefully it's not a lingering. Thing obviously with
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: your best defender out of that whole side of the football,
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: there and we know how valuable he, is so, yeah,
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: ABSOLUTELY i do not need to put him out there
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: anymore than you have to as far as getting ready
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: for the season. Goes but not at this, moment but
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: hopefully something the result itself sooner than.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Later, Yeah, brown he had they had practice Since, tuesday
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: sat out Last tuesday with, soreness and then sat out.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: YESTERDAY i was kind of, surprised but we got Four
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: we got four plus weeks till the.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Opener it's no.
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: Longer it's like it kind of almost like the traditional
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: training camp because of the extra game and the extra,
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: weekend it.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Has a long training. Camp Man so and Then dlu
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: sounds like he's getting. Closer BUT i do think there's
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: a level of, precaution as you.
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: SHOULD i, mean this is, like, again you want to
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: get through this training, camp get your reps, in and
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: obviously Coach kanal is saying yesterday ten to twenty reps
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: coming up In buffalo On saturday for the starters that'll
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: be out, There AND i think that's really gonna be
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: good for someone Like Monroe freeling to get out there
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: and take those reps and really just you, know cement
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: his confidence at right. Tackle and because as we've seen,
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: traditionally we'll see what they. Do but once you get
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: to that Final houston preseason, game they don't usually put
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: the starters out there at. All SO i think It's
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: buffalo And jacksonville in the joint.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Practice is the way they did it last year is
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: it played in the first two for a couple series
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: and then didn't play at a. Third the last THING
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: i want to ask you about Is Louke. Keikley you
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: called every game of him as a, player but you,
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: know you've gotten to know. Him you've got to work with,
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: him you know on The Panther radio. Network bone AND
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: i are just we love. You hear his speech and
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: he's talking about everybody around the building and it's just
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: he just he was like one of the, guys and
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: not just in the locker, room, right but like he's
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: one of The he's just one of the guys and
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: just just a fellow.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Coworker to. Everybody the way he is just on the
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: level of everybody is so impressive to.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Me it.
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: Is AND i like the fact that he didn't just
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: go like by the, trainers the equipment, guys but by,
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: name that the r, STAFF i, mean just naming people by,
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: name and that is. Genuine that's not for. Effect And
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: i've seen him. Out if you're In, charlotte you may
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: run into him at you, know a home improvement, store a,
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: restaurant and we've run into each other out just doing
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: things like. That and he's as genuine like that all the.
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: Time when he was a, player he'd walk through the
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: lobby and he'd stop and talk to us and, go
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: what are you guys doing? Tonight where are you going for?
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: DINNER i, mean and he's like really actually, interested and
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: it'll the next, day how was? It and it's just
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: like that is Lout. Keekley and you've watched all these
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: specials and seen all these different local groups do Like
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: channel nine doing a great job with these, specials and
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: part of it is that they all have the same.
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: Thing he's he is down to, earth he is, humble
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: he is.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Grounded he just.
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: Happens to be a hall of fame football, player but
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: he feels doing something. Else and he's got these two
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: brothers that are in different fields of. Work he's just
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: like them as far as you, know whatever career path
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: he would have taken if it wasn't football for whatever,
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: reason he is just that same human.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Being and it's not for a, fact it's not. OVERSTATED
• 30:32
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• 30:49
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• 31:45
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  Speaker 3: News Haines king played so well the other night that
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: we may have a New panther. FAN i just don't
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  Speaker 3: WHY i gave this man my personal phone. NUMBER i
• 31:59
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• 32:01
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• 32:06
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• 32:10
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• 32:12
  Speaker 3: comes on the radio W f AND, z but also
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: A Georgia tech, fan and he was so fired up
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: About Haines king's performance and said he's considering leaving the
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: leaving The falcons for The. Panthers do we accept do
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: we accept this application mode or do we throw this application?
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Out this is gonna take a long vetting. Process first of,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: all he's gonna have to come on at sink stand
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: and cheer with his Hard you're.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Gonna make him work like we've.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: Made he's got a lot of obstacles to overcome here
• 32:42
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• 32:44
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• 32:47
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• 32:49
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• 32:51
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• 32:55
  Speaker 3: to throw out Your Steve barkowski jersey from back in the,
• 32:58
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• 33:01
  Speaker 3: pants that you wear. Around you gotta get rid of. Those,
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: yeah this, ONE i don't know How i'm feeling. About
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: plus the guy he is, like AND i Know haines got,
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: hurt so that's kind of changed the. Conversation but like
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: it's the third quarterback on the roster right now that you're.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Changing so like what happens When bryce is playing The?
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Falcons you mean to tell me you go roof for The.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: PANTHERS i ain't buying. THAT i don't trust this From,
• 33:25
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• 33:26
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• 34:24
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• 34:29
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• 34:35
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• 34:37
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• 34:43
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• 34:47
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• 34:50
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• 34:53
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• 35:00
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• 35:04
  Speaker 3: bro this ain't. Happening Mac work's you A falcons fan
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• 35:09
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• 35:12
  Speaker 3: young THAT i was not happy. WITH i was A
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• 35:20
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• 35:23
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• 35:28
  Speaker 4: BECAUSE i want you to be able to tell him.
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• 35:42
  Speaker 4: come back here On The mack And Bone, show It's Weekend.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: CONCLUSIONS i will tell you what is the worst movie
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  Speaker 4: ever THAT i saw this, weekend and we say goodbye
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• 36:28
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  Speaker 3: SOMETHING i have just learned here on the show in
• 36:34
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• 36:52
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  Speaker 3: what weekend? Conclusion you want to start us?
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: With?
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: Mac we want to say goodbye and rest in peace
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: to one of the great characters in. Basketball from his
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: time as a player where he won five titles with
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: The Boston, celtics to then being three TIMES Nba coach
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: of The, year the Great Don nelson pass away over the,
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: weekend Coached, Milwaukee Golden, state The, knicks Briefly, dallas and
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: Then Golden state.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Again mac an all time.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: Character that got into some interesting hobbies when he was done.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: Playing here's an interview a couple of years ago Where
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: Don nelson updated what he's been up.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: To each of you talked briefly about what you've been
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: doing after, Basketball.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: COACH i know you live In, hawaii, right so, Yeah
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: i've been smoking.
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  Speaker 7: Some, Podcasts.
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  Speaker 4: Mack he became a marijuana farmer in his later. Years
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: he had long hair for a while, there. Hippie it
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: was kind of interesting from The Don, nelson the TOUGH
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  Speaker 4: nba fighter type coach that he was to becoming like
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: a gregarious marijuana.
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  Speaker 3: Farmer, well, hey at least he had some fun there
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: in his POST nba career before he passed at the
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: age of eighty. Six, BONE i gotta be, Honest, BONE
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: i don't know if this makes me a professional or a.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Loser But saturday, MORNING i grinded the preseason.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Tape. MAN i had to go back and watch again
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  Speaker 2: because THERE i wanted to see That.
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: NO a With.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: MAC i want to see the rookie, specifically Because i'm
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: gonna be honest with. YOU i didn't even Notice Lee
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: hunter during the game, live AND i went back AND
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: i WENT i, Realized oh, Crap Lee hunter was out.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: There Lee hunter got shoved around a little. Bit now
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: he was getting doubled a. Lot But Lee hunter definitely
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: had some moments where he got shoved. Around SO i
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: don't feel like it was the best. Debut Zakey wheatley
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: might have had the best rookie debut of him all
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: HIGHEST pff grade nine total tackles PER, pff eight per
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: the actual box, score AND pff had him with four,
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: stops which is a tackle resulting in a play that's
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: not a positive play for the. OFFENSE i actually Thought
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: Sam heck did pretty. Well you know the unfortunately for,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: him the only time we talked about him is when
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: he had that snap that didn't exactly clear his own
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: booty And Haines king had trouble getting, it and then
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: we had the run for. Loss he actually got obliterated
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: on that run block right after, that probably because of
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: the bad. Snap but other than that, bone he had
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: some amazing past pro. Reps, MAN i Thought Sam hunt
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Or Sam hect was damn good in WHAT i saw On,
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: yeah he did not. Play he was a dm. Pill
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: he was A dnp coach's decision. Bone so those are
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: a few guys there that kind of stuck. Out i'm
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: hoping for more From Lee hunter this, week but he
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: wasn't alone on. DEFENSE i watched it. Backbone you still
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  Speaker 3: got a strain to See princely. Like it was very
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  Speaker 3: anonymous From princely And Trevin wallace was involved in three,
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  Speaker 3: tackles but, man it was a quiet before from him
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  Speaker 3: as well for.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: A guy that we're expected to be a. Starter.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Mac when we watched weekly in, practice you know what
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: stands out to. Me it's The it's the length of the,
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  Speaker 4: arms it's the ability to make plays with the the wiry.
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  Speaker 4: Frame he reminds Me mac of Those seattle dbs during
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  Speaker 4: their best, years the, big, tall wanky defensive. Bats that's
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• 40:30
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• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Too it wasn't just that big shot on the deep.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: Ball he had a great tackle right like one yard,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: game stuff them right at the. Line so all the
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: safeties play. Well Isaiah simmons Safety Isaiah simmons been an amazing.
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• 40:47
  Speaker 4: TOP i think the future of the safety spot is
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• 41:05
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• 41:07
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• 41:10
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• 41:14
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• 41:20
  Speaker 4: FORCES i, thought, wow interesting, Premise i'll. Watch it started out,
• 41:25
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• 41:29
  Speaker 4: perhaps the worst Movie i've ever seen in my. Lifetime
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: i've Never i've never seen a movie turn quicker back
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  Speaker 4: into absolute chaos more than. THIS i can't recommend enough
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• 41:42
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• 41:48
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• 41:49
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• 42:00
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• 42:00
  Speaker 2: WELL i wanted to get. ANGRY i, FIGURE i, SAID
• 42:03
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  Speaker 2: Conclusions that's WHAT i.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: DID i, SAID i need to need to do this
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: for the team, Here, BONE i have talked so much
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: about how, things things surround things Surrounding Caitlyn clark often
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: end up getting so political and everything turns into a culture,
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  Speaker 3: war AND i hate. IT i can't stand. It, RIGHT
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: i Love Katelyn clark watched the game On, saturday she
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: goes off for twenty six and. ELEVEN i like watching the.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Fever Kelsey mitchell is amazing, Too. BONE i gotta be
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: honest with, you, Man this, league, though brings it on
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: themselves so damn. MUCH i, mean it's not just the
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: way the media and politicians and everybody reacts To Caitlyn.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Clark first of, all you know you had to Hold
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Sophie cunningham comments and stuff like, That but how about
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: what happened On? Saturday Dejah Nay carrickton goes flat Out
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  Speaker 3: bill lamb beer On Sophie cunningham on a fast. BREAK
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: i don't know if you saw the hit right up
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  Speaker 3: clothes line dirty is all?
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Hell and what does she do?
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Afterwards she goes into the locker room and tweets out
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: or on a throwing threads white privilege At indiana. Fever, like,
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: seriously that's not the medium making up this culture war.
• 43:17
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  Speaker 3: go in and have their say now and make it
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: a real big, thing but, seriously.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Man this league Can't what Did Bill simmons say about this?
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Weekend Bill simmons, says this league is basically a walking
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: talking for you On twitter like, everything AND i don't
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• 43:37
  Speaker 3: else so much toxic stuff on for.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: You it's really not for. You everything everything with this.
• 43:43
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• 43:46
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• 43:48
  Speaker 3: about transgender, athletes like it's a, mess, MAN a damn.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: Guess so much going, on it's hard to keep tracking doing. Basketball,
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: meanwhile they got some great teams and some great. Players
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: every other day they're there's a new controversy that you
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: can't keep up with that from the last, one by
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: the one absurd, though by the, way the technical foul
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  Speaker 4: that ref tried to call On Kaitlyn clark and it
• 44:08
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• 44:10
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• 44:13
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  Speaker 4: Tv. Yeah when we come, back it's the weekend RECAP
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  Speaker 4: dc with the college sports world, down that's not. Chocking
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  Speaker 4: The College Football committee meets today and there is a
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  Speaker 4: new member of teams that they will be. Discussing Plus
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  Speaker 4: DROWALOD fc wins but gets bad news after the match
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