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Inside the Alec Bohm lawsuit against his parents + The Most Positive, Negative, & Foul MLB Fandoms · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Hey, let's talk Phillies and we're going to get into
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Speaker 1: how things have turned around significantly for them. But we
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Speaker 1: welcome in Charlotte Barnes joining us for the first time
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Speaker 1: on FT and you can follow all of her coverage
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Speaker 1: in The Athletic on the Phillies.
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Speaker 2: Charlotte, it's great to have you on.
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Speaker 1: I've been reading all of your articles on the Alec
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Speaker 1: Boeme situation too, so I've really been interested in the
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Speaker 1: coverage that you're bringing there. Thanks for joining us, and
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Speaker 1: can you lay out for our audience some of what's
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Speaker 1: going on there that could be leading to some distractions
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Speaker 1: for him and causing some performance issues too.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me. It has been a complicated,
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Speaker 3: I would say month plus saga legally for Alec Boem.
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Speaker 3: So March twenty fifth, just a head opening day, he
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Speaker 3: files a lawsuit in Philadelphia against his parents, alleging financial mismanagement.
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Speaker 3: It all comes back to these LLC's. They created a
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Speaker 3: couple LC's when you first got drafted, another couple a
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Speaker 3: few years ago, and essentially what he is alleging is
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Speaker 3: that the money that was moved into those LLCs. Yes,
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Speaker 3: some of his parents invested on his behalf and used
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Speaker 3: to pay his bills. A large sum he's alleging was
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Speaker 3: taken and has been used by his parents for what
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Speaker 3: he doesn't know, So it all comes back to that.
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Speaker 3: He's filed a few different documents. He filed for an
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Speaker 3: injunction essentially requesting that his parents return five hundred and
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Speaker 3: twenty eight thousand dollars that they took. He alleges it
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Speaker 3: is for legal war chest. They took this money a
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Speaker 3: couple months ago, or about a month and a half ago,
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Speaker 3: and he's alleging they're going to use it to fund
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Speaker 3: their legal expenses. They're alleging they're going to use it
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Speaker 3: to pay the bills from the money that he took
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Speaker 3: out of these LLCs. The latest and that they filed
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Speaker 3: a few days ago, he shows that he has five
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Speaker 3: million dollars in one of these accounts attached to the LLCs,
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Speaker 3: so he would have no trouble paying his bills. So
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Speaker 3: right now it's a lot of back and forth. On
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Speaker 3: June twenty second, I believe they are going to meet
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Speaker 3: with Philadelphia Courts in a zoom room to then set
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Speaker 3: the date for a hearing, and then maybe we'll have
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Speaker 3: a decision on an injunction, So just a lot of
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Speaker 3: legal back and forth.
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Speaker 4: Charlotte, have we ever heard of anything like this before?
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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure this has happened before, but have
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Speaker 4: we heard of another player having an issue like this,
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Speaker 4: especially so publicly with their parents. I know it's happened,
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Speaker 4: but this is like the most public one I've ever
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Speaker 4: heard of.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I'm pretty young, so I can't exactly
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Speaker 3: remember what happened with Ryan Howard and his parents, but
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Speaker 3: that a lot of people brought up that example, or
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Speaker 3: Jack Johnson in the NHL, which I wasn't familiar with.
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Speaker 3: He's also had legal troubles with his parents. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: in recent years, really in the past decade, this is
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Speaker 3: the only thing I can think about.
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Speaker 5: And you kind of laid out the timeline. Do you
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Speaker 5: have dates as far as the timeline, because if we're
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Speaker 5: going to eventually correlate this to how Alec is playing
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Speaker 5: on the field, Philly fans need to be like, we
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Speaker 5: need to settled right now, like it's if this is
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Speaker 5: bothering him. So is there like normal dates of when
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Speaker 5: this could be, like each step could happen.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think it's tricky in that they're not
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Speaker 3: meeting until June twenty seconds, so that's a month and
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Speaker 3: a half from now, and that's only to decide a
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Speaker 3: date for the hearing, and the hearing presumably they'll get
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Speaker 3: a decision on the injunction and whether Alec will get
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Speaker 3: his money back. And also part of it is that
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Speaker 3: his parents are seeking to move this Florida. They believe
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Speaker 3: because it's LLC's that were created in Florida, it should
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Speaker 3: go through arbitration there instead of going through trial in Pennsylvania,
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Speaker 3: which they are arguing is just not the right venue
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Speaker 3: for it because a lot of this happened in Florida.
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Speaker 3: All the bones are legal residents there, So if it
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Speaker 3: gets moved into arbitration, eventually this could all take place
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Speaker 3: out of the public eye, which I think all of
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Speaker 3: the parties involved in the mean. I mean, I think
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Speaker 3: Alec wants it to take place in Pennsylvania, but I
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Speaker 3: think they would all love this to be playing out
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Speaker 3: a lot more privately. But yeah, in terms of the timeline,
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Speaker 3: it's tricky. This could be playing out for months. I
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Speaker 3: will say, like people close to the situation have said
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Speaker 3: they feel like he processed a lot of this because
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Speaker 3: a lot of this was taking place during spring training
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Speaker 3: in terms of him reaching out to his parents wanting
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Speaker 3: to know more about his accounts, and a lot was
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Speaker 3: unfolding then rather than during the season. I mean, obviously
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Speaker 3: the news coverage and all of these updates were taking
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Speaker 3: place during the season, but people closed him kind of
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Speaker 3: felt like he has processed it and kind of put
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Speaker 3: it away at the moment.
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Speaker 6: Does he talk about it, Charlotte? Does he does? Boom?
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Speaker 4: If you go up to Alec and say, Alec, I
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Speaker 4: want to ask you a question about this, does he
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Speaker 4: talk about it or is it all just no comment,
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Speaker 4: no comments, legal situation.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's no comment. He was asked about it as
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Speaker 3: soon as it came out, and I mean the story
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Speaker 3: the Inquirer road dropped middle of the game on opening day,
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Speaker 3: so that was not great timing. So he hits a
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Speaker 3: home run all opening day and is asked about it
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Speaker 3: after because of course, and he says no comment and yes,
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Speaker 3: as far as I know, for the foreseeable future, he
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Speaker 3: does not want to talk about it.
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Speaker 4: Do you imagine can anyone imagine, though, I just I mean,
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Speaker 4: can you imagine Scott and Eric to play a baseball
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Speaker 4: season and also at the same time having a lawsuit
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Speaker 4: against your mom and dad or someone who you've probably
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Speaker 4: leaned on your entire life. I can't even imagine what
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Speaker 4: he's going through his numbers. Aside the baseball I'm just
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Speaker 4: talking about as a person in general, Cheryl. You you
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Speaker 4: don't play baseball. Can you imagine waking up one day
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Speaker 4: and saying, mom, Dad, by the way, I'm suing you
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Speaker 4: for stealing money allegedly from me. I can't even imagine
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Speaker 4: having that weighing over me. Forget trying to play baseball
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Speaker 4: with it weighing over me.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean in his parents filing a couple of
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Speaker 3: weeks ago, there were one hundred and four pages of
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Speaker 3: text messages between him and his parents. And even reading that,
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Speaker 3: I mean, imagine your parents putting out one hundred and
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Speaker 3: four pages of text messages between you and them. Like
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Speaker 3: it's just all of this is so hard to fathom.
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Speaker 5: Are his teammates, I know his teammates, and all you
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Speaker 5: hear about is the Phillies Clubhouse, Like this is the
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Speaker 5: time when I think the Phillies Clubhouse really needs to
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Speaker 5: back him. Are his teammates speaking about it at all?
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Speaker 5: Or is it just the same tight lips no comment.
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Speaker 3: They haven't really spoken about it at all. I think,
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Speaker 3: just in terms of Alec, they've just sort of talked
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Speaker 3: about the difficulties he's been having on the field because
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Speaker 3: I think they've been asked about it. I know, a
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Speaker 3: few weeks ago, Alec had a pretty tough night and
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Speaker 3: he ends up sitting next to Schwarbur and Schwarber ends
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Speaker 3: up comforting him. And I think his teammates have tried
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Speaker 3: to be with him in that way. I mean, I
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Speaker 3: saw Dave Dombrowski kind of hug him a couple of
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Speaker 3: weeks ago. I think everyone's trying to support him. And
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Speaker 3: I mean when Rob was the manager, he said, look
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Speaker 3: like I've be't talked about this with Alec, but my
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Speaker 3: door is always open. And I think for the most part,
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Speaker 3: like Alec, Boehm is well known for airing his frustrations
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Speaker 3: out publicly in the past, and everyone's seen that. But
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Speaker 3: I mean, the hitting coach told me, the manager said,
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Speaker 3: like they said, they're not seeing that level of frustration
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Speaker 3: right now from him. It seems like he's pretty even
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Speaker 3: keeled and he's not really talking about it. So when
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Speaker 3: the coaches and players are short talking about this, they're
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Speaker 3: talking about in the light if he's struggling on the
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Speaker 3: field more so than what's happening off the field.
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Speaker 5: What about what about with coming in as Don Mattingly
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Speaker 5: coming in as a new manager. Does there seem like
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Speaker 5: there's a different air about not necessarily just this situation,
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Speaker 5: but the fact that now we're just looking at on
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Speaker 5: the field. And Don came out the other day and
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Speaker 5: he said what he said about I think Alec is
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Speaker 5: gonna be there. But do you think if he's still
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Speaker 5: struggling in X amount of time they do look to
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Speaker 5: make a move with an ed Mundo Sosa or possibly
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Speaker 5: at Mundo at second and Stod at third, or is
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Speaker 5: there do they even have an option if they go
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Speaker 5: to that direction.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think Sosa playing third and stop
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Speaker 3: playing second would probably be the right move should they
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Speaker 3: go that way. I mean, right now, down's like, like
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Speaker 3: you said, pretty publicly committing to playing Bam and letting
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Speaker 3: him play through this. But I mean, at this time
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Speaker 3: he's just really not helping the team. I mean, last
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Speaker 3: night you look at like that was the first time
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Speaker 3: he was pinched hit four. Unless we're talking a blowout,
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Speaker 3: we're talking an injury. That was the first time he
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Speaker 3: was like ever or pinch hit four in his career
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Speaker 3: in that circumstance, And I think that kind of shows
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Speaker 3: where things are right now. They can't really trust him
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Speaker 3: in those late game situations, and I would not be
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Speaker 3: surprised if things keep trending this way, if they turn
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Speaker 3: to Sosa at third. I mean, it just feels like,
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Speaker 3: especially with everything he's been going through, just giving him
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Speaker 3: a few days on the bench honestly might just let
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Speaker 3: him clear his head and maybe he's a different guy
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9:33
Speaker 1: the Phillies. Now the classic question versus when Rob Thompson
9:37
Speaker 1: was managing this team, all of a sudden, it's coming together,
9:40
Speaker 1: Bryson Stott can hit, Bryce Harper, elevating his game, Christopher Sanchez,
9:44
Speaker 1: I mean continuing to impress, but was dominant. So what
9:47
Speaker 1: are you seeing from this team that looks different as
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Speaker 1: a whole. Is it just a matter of a few
9:52
Speaker 1: more bats getting hot.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's part of it. And I think
9:56
Speaker 3: a huge thing is the starting pitching. I mean there
9:59
Speaker 3: was just like some explicit, inexplicable bad luck. I mean
10:02
Speaker 3: that everyone talks about the but BIP in the first
10:06
Speaker 3: week or a few weeks of the season, and I
10:08
Speaker 3: mean you look at Jesus Luzardo had a great start
10:10
Speaker 3: in Miami on Sunday, Christopher Sanchez was excellent the other night.
10:14
Speaker 3: I mean, they were one of the last teams in
10:15
Speaker 3: baseball to have a starter go seven innings, and finally
10:18
Speaker 3: Lozardo did it last week, and I think that's been huge,
10:21
Speaker 3: having him go that deep, having Christopher Sanchez go that deep,
10:24
Speaker 3: and having them pull it together, because the rotation is
10:27
Speaker 3: really just the It's the strongest part of this team,
10:30
Speaker 3: no doubt. And I think when you had them struggling
10:32
Speaker 3: at the beginning of the season, along with a lot
10:34
Speaker 3: of the bats, it just it really was an issue.
10:37
Speaker 3: And then yeah, you're right, you're right about the bats
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Speaker 3: getting hot, and I think they've They're also just they're
10:42
Speaker 3: playing a lot better in these late game situations where
10:44
Speaker 3: last year, remember toward the end of the season, it
10:47
Speaker 3: felt like anything could happen. I mean those last couple
10:49
Speaker 3: of months, it just felt like, yeah, the Phillies could
10:51
Speaker 3: be down like two or three runs in the last
10:54
Speaker 3: few winnings and I would not count them out in
10:56
Speaker 3: any circumstance. Meanwhile, I was on that road trip and Chicago.
11:01
Speaker 3: Aside from their last game in Chicago where they kind
11:03
Speaker 3: of fought and they sent it to extras like they
11:05
Speaker 3: just looked dead in the water, and I just there,
11:09
Speaker 3: they've looked a lot more clutch, essentially. I I really
11:11
Speaker 3: trust their ability to come back in these circumstances. Were
11:14
Speaker 3: even just two weeks ago, you could tell they were
11:16
Speaker 3: playing really tight and we're really stressed out, and they're
11:19
Speaker 3: they're looking a lot better in those situations.
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Speaker 4: Now, all right, Charlie, before I let you go, I
11:24
Speaker 4: just before I we can move on, what did you
11:26
Speaker 4: call it? Because that's the way I'm gonna start saying
11:28
Speaker 4: it for now. When it was what did you call it?
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Speaker 4: The BIP, I'm gonna start calling it but bim, Yes,
11:33
Speaker 4: I love it. That was awesome.
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Speaker 6: I did too, But I love it. I love it, not.
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Speaker 2: Even kidding, Charlotte, we're going to change that because I actually.
11:42
Speaker 6: Thought, wow, it was a little bit better.
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Speaker 4: I thought it was awesome, but BIP because I had
11:45
Speaker 4: bibb and Bop for bibb and Bob for lunch today.
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Speaker 6: So that's all that popped in my mind when she
11:49
Speaker 6: said it. So, but BIP, I love it close enough,
11:55
Speaker 6: So awesome.
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Speaker 1: Nobody termed it like it's not a real that's the
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Speaker 1: whole thing is like abip, right, so.
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Speaker 3: And I don't want to spell it out and saying
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Speaker 3: it is just like you be too.
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Speaker 1: Long, I know, but it's not like when someone first said,
12:08
Speaker 1: like we shall call it babit, Like, no, you don't
12:11
Speaker 1: get to make that decision.
12:12
Speaker 2: So now now it's I mean.
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Speaker 5: Somebody that has a great babip and is having a
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Speaker 5: great start to the season, Brandon Marsh. Brandon Marsh actually
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Speaker 5: has I think he has like twenty some at bats
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Speaker 5: against lefties. Don Mattingly not afraid because he has the
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Speaker 5: intern tag to say, you know what, Marsh, you're hot.
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Speaker 5: You're gonna play against lefties and righties. Because I've seen
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Speaker 5: the last few nights he's gotten at bats against lefties.
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Speaker 5: They're not afraid to put him out there. Is that
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Speaker 5: part of just him being hot or is that part
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Speaker 5: of the Don Mattingly saying I see that he's hot,
12:48
Speaker 5: and I don't really care. We're gonna put whoever's out
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Speaker 5: there that's gonna be hot.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's exactly it. I mean, he has
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Speaker 3: just been phenomenal to start the season. I mean three
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Speaker 3: for four last night with a triple. It's just been
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Speaker 3: really hot so far. And I think part of that
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Speaker 3: too is just the outfield has been sort of confounding,
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Speaker 3: and when you when you have someone in the outfield
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Speaker 3: who you can trust to play every day. I think
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Speaker 3: that's why they're moving forward Brandon that way, and I
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Speaker 3: think like there they trust him a little bit more
13:17
Speaker 3: becau obviously he's been around. I think they're protecting Justin
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Speaker 3: Crawford a little bit right now because they don't want
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Speaker 3: him playing every day against lefties at this time, just
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Speaker 3: because he's really early in his career. They just want
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Speaker 3: to protect.
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Speaker 6: Him in that way.
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Speaker 3: And I think having sort of an everyday option in
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Speaker 3: the outfield has been beyond Aduli Scarcia has been huge,
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Speaker 3: because I mean, it's it's just been it's it's been
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Speaker 3: a really weird start for the Phillies outfield. When you
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Speaker 3: have Felix ray Is in his second career game hitting cleanup,
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Speaker 3: like that's sort of indicative on where things are.
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Speaker 6: All right.
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Speaker 5: So my last one was something that was brought up
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Speaker 5: by Kevin Long when they're in their struggles. One of
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Speaker 5: the reasons that Kevin Long said that they weren't able
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Speaker 5: to hit lefties early in the season, was because they
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Speaker 5: didn't have a left handed pitcher to throw to him
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Speaker 5: to throw to their hitters. Has there been any follow
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Speaker 5: up with that or is it something that's kind of
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Speaker 5: been forgotten the fact that, ah, well, now they brought
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Speaker 5: somebody in And did the players ever react to his
14:17
Speaker 5: comment about that when they were struggling.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that that was said to me, and Rob
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Speaker 3: was asked about it the next day and he immediately
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Speaker 3: shut that down as like not being the reason why
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Speaker 3: they were struggling. I mean, it's it's an interesting excuse,
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Speaker 3: I'll say that, but as far as I know, the
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Speaker 3: players didn't really react to it, and I mean it
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Speaker 3: is just like it. Yeah, it is a really interesting excuse.
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Speaker 3: But it's just interesting as well, because I mean, when
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Speaker 3: you're at home, obviously traject exists. Obviously they don't have
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Speaker 3: traject on the road. Some of these guys don't even
14:52
Speaker 3: want like a lefty bpe BP header throwing to them
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Speaker 3: or pitcher throwing to them. So I yeah, there wasn't
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Speaker 3: really any reaction beyond that. Personally, I don't know how
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Speaker 3: much of that I would I would say, is why
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Speaker 3: they weren't really hitting lefties. But yeah, it was an
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Speaker 3: interesting comment. There really hasn't been much follow up. They're
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Speaker 3: they're hitting theft lefties a little bit better now, and
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Speaker 3: I I'll be curious to see if I should follow
15:19
Speaker 3: up on that and see what people say.
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Speaker 1: Hey, my last one is about don Mattingly and if
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Speaker 1: it seems like he's enjoying this. And I haven't been
15:29
Speaker 1: to a Phillies game as a media member in the
15:31
Speaker 1: past week and a half while this team's gone what
15:33
Speaker 1: eight and one with Donnie, so the winning helps, But
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Speaker 1: do you think that he's enjoying this. I don't know
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Speaker 1: if he had the thoughts of being in this spot,
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Speaker 1: and if he did, I don't know if he thought
15:44
Speaker 1: he was going to be in this spot in you
15:46
Speaker 1: know what, late April taking over a team to essentially
15:49
Speaker 1: be their manager for the entire year. So what are
15:51
Speaker 1: you seeing and hearing from him?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean he was asked about that right away
15:56
Speaker 3: because he essentially said I don't want to ever manage
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Speaker 3: again when they hired him, and here we are, And
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Speaker 3: I think part of the reason it sounds like he
16:04
Speaker 3: said that was because he didn't want anyone to think
16:06
Speaker 3: he was there to like take over for Rob. That's
16:08
Speaker 3: not why they hired him. They hired him to be
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Speaker 3: a veteran voice. And I think the players have really
16:13
Speaker 3: appreciated that. Everyone sort of loved having a former player
16:16
Speaker 3: and a former player of his stature on staff. But
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Speaker 3: I get the sense that he's really enjoying it. He
16:22
Speaker 3: is super active. I mean in terms of like our
16:25
Speaker 3: media availabilities, like it's it was common with Rob. Rob
16:28
Speaker 3: will come talk to us like right after the clubhouse closed,
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Speaker 3: whereas with Dawn. He wants to see all the work
16:33
Speaker 3: in the infield before he comes talked up talks to us,
16:36
Speaker 3: and he loves working in the infield. He said something
16:38
Speaker 3: funny the other day because like someone was asking him
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Speaker 3: about it, and he was like, yeah, I'm trying to
16:43
Speaker 3: get all the sixty five year olds out there. I'm
16:45
Speaker 3: trying to stay active. So go sixty five year olds.
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Speaker 3: We all should be staying active. Just because of all
16:49
Speaker 3: the work he's doing in the.
16:50
Speaker 4: Field, Charlotte, is there any good stories between him and
16:54
Speaker 4: Preston yet, Like where he's working for his son, so
16:57
Speaker 4: he is done his son had to I mean they're
16:59
Speaker 4: obviously so I guess not. But what happens when something
17:03
Speaker 4: goes wrong, is Preston gonna come down and yell at
17:05
Speaker 4: down and be like, Dad, you're doing this wrong.
17:10
Speaker 3: I don't think either of them would love that scenario,
17:12
Speaker 3: but yeah, something like Don was obviously asked about it,
17:16
Speaker 3: and he said, I don't think there are gonna be
17:17
Speaker 3: any issues going forward because at the end of the day,
17:20
Speaker 3: like he wants to win, Preston wants to win, Dave
17:22
Speaker 3: wants to win, Everyone wants to win. And I mean, like,
17:25
Speaker 3: if a circumstance like that arrived, I think it'd probably
17:28
Speaker 3: be fair for Dave to be handling that because Dave
17:30
Speaker 3: is over Preston any ways and is obviously not related
17:34
Speaker 3: to Don. But yeah, Don did not seem concerned about
17:37
Speaker 3: how things are going to be going forward, just because
17:40
Speaker 3: they're working toward the same goal.
17:43
Speaker 4: Charlotte, last thing before we let you go. When you
17:45
Speaker 4: go into the dining room, are you happy or sad
17:48
Speaker 4: that they move Frankie two scoops from his normal corner?
17:51
Speaker 4: They gave him a whole station now, and then what
17:54
Speaker 4: is your go to flavor when you go in there?
17:55
Speaker 4: Because nobody can go in there because Frankie literally you
17:58
Speaker 4: walk in there, he just hands you ice cream. You
18:00
Speaker 4: can't even say no, it's just here's ice cream. Here's
18:02
Speaker 4: my pick of the day. So what's your go to flavor?
18:07
Speaker 3: Okay, last night I got the watermelon water ice which
18:09
Speaker 3: they don't usually have, but I did like that, or
18:12
Speaker 3: I'll do I like coconut. He's had that recently. But yeah,
18:16
Speaker 3: it's been weird. I don't really know what they're doing
18:18
Speaker 3: with the space where he used to work, but it's
18:20
Speaker 3: like kind of funny because well, like last night, we
18:22
Speaker 3: were eating dinner right in front of him, and he
18:23
Speaker 3: likes to jump into our conversations, and last night I
18:27
Speaker 3: saw the Yeah, of course, this was a great move
18:30
Speaker 3: by A's PR head Mark Ling. He brought Frank an
18:34
Speaker 3: A's hat last night because he apparently grew up a
18:36
Speaker 3: Phi Philadelphia A's fan. And then Frank started to tell
18:40
Speaker 3: me about the nineteen fifty four A's which is just crazy,
18:44
Speaker 3: but obviously he's a Phillies fan now. But I thought
18:46
Speaker 3: that was a nice move by A'SPR and I got
18:49
Speaker 3: a photo of him with the hat and I think
18:50
Speaker 3: you got it.
18:52
Speaker 6: That's awesome.
18:53
Speaker 4: He gave me three scoops. He gave me three scoops.
18:55
Speaker 4: Last time, by the way, I was too much.
18:58
Speaker 3: It's always too much.
19:00
Speaker 5: It's perfect amount. There's no such thing as too much
19:03
Speaker 5: ice cream.
19:04
Speaker 6: There is not.
19:05
Speaker 5: I took my boys up to the press box and
19:07
Speaker 5: he would just absolutely. They're like, oh, He's like, oh,
19:10
Speaker 5: make a milkshake. And all he did was fill the
19:12
Speaker 5: milkshake cup full of ice cream, and he put a
19:15
Speaker 5: straw in and he like mixed it around a little bit.
19:18
Speaker 5: He goes, probably not a milkshake, but enjoy it was
19:21
Speaker 5: all ice cream.
19:22
Speaker 6: Frankie's the man so funny.
19:24
Speaker 2: I think.
19:25
Speaker 3: We've gotten really good cookies in the press box now,
19:28
Speaker 3: Like the cookies they're serving are good. So if I
19:30
Speaker 3: have one of those and then frank gives me a
19:32
Speaker 3: lot of ice cream, I'm like, I just it's so sugary.
19:34
Speaker 3: I can't be doing all that.
19:36
Speaker 4: And he has all the toppings now too. He has
19:38
Speaker 4: a little card. He has all the toppings. Before he
19:41
Speaker 4: didn't have toppings. Now he's got all the toppings. You're like, Frank,
19:43
Speaker 4: I cannot do this every day.
19:46
Speaker 3: Probably he gives you so much ice cream it doesn't
19:48
Speaker 3: fit in the cup. You can't put the toppings on.
19:50
Speaker 6: True, that's true, you need towo cups. You need a
19:52
Speaker 6: bigger cup.
19:54
Speaker 2: Life's so tough. Too much ice cream from Frankie in
19:56
Speaker 2: the press box. I mean, maybe he.
19:58
Speaker 1: Should open up his own spot on the concourse, a
20:01
Speaker 1: little concession stands frank two spot, because he's given away
20:05
Speaker 1: too much.
20:06
Speaker 2: You're right.
20:08
Speaker 3: I'm always stunned by how obsessed the fans are with him,
20:10
Speaker 3: like they they love him. Any photo we post of
20:13
Speaker 3: frank the fans are so excited to see him because
20:15
Speaker 3: I guess.
20:15
Speaker 6: They never see him, so I agree.
20:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, he's a legend.
20:19
Speaker 1: You can't Usually there's you know, people like that at
20:21
Speaker 1: the ballpark, but you can say hi to them or whatever.
20:24
Speaker 1: This is someone who's essentially not accessible to the fans.
20:28
Speaker 1: So kids, if you'd like to meet him someday, then
20:31
Speaker 1: become a journalist and you can get in there and
20:33
Speaker 1: get two, three or four scoops. Well, Charlotte, this was great.
20:36
Speaker 1: Hope you enjoyed it. Thank you so much for joining us.
20:38
Speaker 1: Appreciate it.
20:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me.
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20:45
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20:50
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20:54
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Speaker 1: after at FTFAM. So this is an interesting why I
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Speaker 1: figure this was right up your ally. Aj Vegas Insider
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Speaker 1: did a pretty comprehensive report on fans online speak negatively
22:00
Speaker 1: or positively about their teams and also speaking with foul
22:04
Speaker 1: language or clean language. So according to analysis from them,
22:09
Speaker 1: and they used Reddit of subredit channels that are kind
22:12
Speaker 1: of super fan channels for teams. They looked at one
22:16
Speaker 1: point two sixty four million comments. That's a nice sample size.
22:19
Speaker 1: That's the way that they were able to put this together.
22:22
Speaker 1: Thirty subreddits, so the thirty MLB teams, and they looked
22:26
Speaker 1: for comments that had swear words, they looked for comments
22:29
Speaker 1: that had positivity. They were able to put it through.
22:31
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm sure some ai the whole deal. So
22:33
Speaker 1: in total, out of those comments, they found fifty two
22:36
Speaker 1: three hundred and thirteen swear words out of about one
22:39
Speaker 1: point two sixty four million. And here are the top offenders.
22:46
Speaker 1: Number one, the Athletics as fans checked in at six
22:52
Speaker 1: percent six point zero three percent. Number two, most foul
22:56
Speaker 1: mouthed not really teams, but fans their team, The Red
23:01
Speaker 1: Sox Angels were three Yankees for Twins five. I mean,
23:07
Speaker 1: I've got some surprises right from the jump here aj
23:11
Speaker 1: Twins fans at five. I guess because of what they've
23:14
Speaker 1: gotten through with the ownership rug and how they thought
23:19
Speaker 1: they were going to get a new team and then
23:20
Speaker 1: it didn't work out.
23:21
Speaker 2: But your thoughts on the top five, hold on, I'm
23:26
Speaker 2: not hearing you. Dude one sick.
23:35
Speaker 6: You're back, Oh we got you. I didn't do anything.
23:40
Speaker 6: Day's fans don't surprise me.
23:42
Speaker 4: I mean, I played in Oakland for a long time
23:44
Speaker 4: and they were also mad that their team left. So
23:46
Speaker 4: I'm sure there was a lot of cursing certain people
23:48
Speaker 4: out in that Red Sox. Not a surprise we all have.
23:52
Speaker 4: They're not called the mass holes for nothing. Out there,
23:54
Speaker 4: you know, they're also very passionate. Angels kind of surprised
23:57
Speaker 4: me a little bit because you always think, oh, no
23:58
Speaker 4: one really cares that much about the Angels are kind
24:00
Speaker 4: of down there in Anaheim. But that wan't surprise me.
24:03
Speaker 4: The Yankee is not a surprise. If you've ever been
24:04
Speaker 4: to New York and try to drive or try to walk,
24:07
Speaker 4: there's a lot of cursing. But Twins and Angels are
24:09
Speaker 4: the two that really stand out, especially the Twins. What
24:11
Speaker 4: happened to Minnesota?
24:12
Speaker 5: Nice?
24:13
Speaker 4: Everyone in Minnesota is always usually so nice, but apparently
24:16
Speaker 4: the poll AADs and the Twins and the way they're
24:17
Speaker 4: playing has.
24:18
Speaker 6: Gotten people all riled up. So those two surprised me.
24:21
Speaker 6: The other three do not.
24:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you have to factor in what the
24:27
Speaker 1: online conversation is a lot of the online conversation for
24:30
Speaker 1: the A's is about the team moving.
24:33
Speaker 2: So the oda's.
24:34
Speaker 1: Fans that are in that group are going to flood
24:36
Speaker 1: it and they're going to be ticked. Same with the
24:39
Speaker 1: Twins fans, Same with the Angels fans, and then Yankees
24:41
Speaker 1: red Sox. Kind of makes sense just based on Northeast
24:45
Speaker 1: people cursing here. Can I throw you a shacker on
24:49
Speaker 1: the other end of the spectrum, This was probably the
24:52
Speaker 1: shocker of the entire study, the fourth most polite team.
24:58
Speaker 1: If we're able to go to the most polite list
25:03
Speaker 1: there it is. So I'll give you one through five
25:05
Speaker 1: because I want to lay it out for the crowd
25:07
Speaker 1: listening on podcasts later on Cardinals one not surprised, Midwest
25:11
Speaker 1: nice Orioles, two Nationals three not surprised, mid Atlantic nice Phillies,
25:18
Speaker 1: four Tigers five from the Surprise Phillies four AJ Phillies fans.
25:25
Speaker 2: Top five.
25:26
Speaker 4: I think they used because just because they didn't curse
25:29
Speaker 4: maybe on there reddit, but the Tigers two five polite.
25:32
Speaker 4: I would have thought it would have been the opposite
25:34
Speaker 4: would have been Twins versus and the Tigers fans would
25:36
Speaker 4: have gone on the other side because I usually got
25:38
Speaker 4: more vitriol in Detroit than I did in Minnesota. I
25:41
Speaker 4: mean forgetting that wasn't my fault, guys, but blame Terry Ryan.
25:46
Speaker 4: But yeah, the Phillies polite, like have anyone ever been
25:52
Speaker 4: to a Phillies game. I mean, Cardinals, sure, they give
25:55
Speaker 4: a standing ovation to everybody, Orioles now, it's fine, but
25:58
Speaker 4: the Phillies at four, I mean, they just must not
26:00
Speaker 4: cuss when they write their little chat things.
26:03
Speaker 6: They must just cuss in real life.
26:05
Speaker 2: Yeah.
26:05
Speaker 1: I respect the process and how many comments they were
26:08
Speaker 1: able to dig into, but it is heavily shifted towards
26:14
Speaker 1: where the teams are at. And I know that's not
26:17
Speaker 1: a completely fair cross examination based on the Yankees and
26:21
Speaker 1: Red Sox playing pretty well over the past year and
26:23
Speaker 1: the Red Sox not this year, of course, but this
26:25
Speaker 1: study mostly had to do with beginning of last season
26:28
Speaker 1: up to this season, right up to really the beginning
26:31
Speaker 1: of this season. So if you're a Phillies fan last year,
26:35
Speaker 1: you were pretty happy. During the regular season, team looked good,
26:38
Speaker 1: you had some heartbreak in the playoffs. To me, aj,
26:41
Speaker 1: you're not getting the same ticked off comments that would
26:45
Speaker 1: lead to the cursing.
26:46
Speaker 2: The cursing is often leading.
26:48
Speaker 4: To twenty fifteen, Go to twenty fifteen, twenty four when
26:52
Speaker 4: they were terrible for the Yeah, exactly, they were.
26:57
Speaker 6: They were awful. I mean, I don't know.
27:00
Speaker 4: I look at it more of like when I think
27:02
Speaker 4: about teams I played against and the fans and the
27:04
Speaker 4: way they reacted. Like Mariners fans never really had much
27:07
Speaker 4: reaction to a lot of stuff. Rockies fans never really cared,
27:12
Speaker 4: you know, Orioles. There was never a ton of fans there,
27:15
Speaker 4: So that was it was. It was weird because Paul
27:16
Speaker 4: Park was beautiful and they weren't. They weren't very good
27:19
Speaker 4: a lot for a long time. Nationals were good when
27:22
Speaker 4: I played against them, so they were always happy. Yeah,
27:26
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean Yankees, Red Sox, Oakland A's Rais
27:31
Speaker 4: fans were always super nice. I can't I can't say
27:34
Speaker 4: anything about Rais fans. Blue Jays fans they were fine.
27:38
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's different, I guess for players than
27:40
Speaker 4: it is for what they write in the chat rooms.
27:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll give you the negative and the positive fandoms.
27:46
Speaker 1: So one had to do with language, and one had
27:48
Speaker 1: to do with positivity and negativity. So here is the
27:51
Speaker 1: most negative fandoms one through five in a study done
27:55
Speaker 1: from April of twenty five up until April of twenty
27:58
Speaker 1: twenty six.
27:59
Speaker 2: Right, Socks are one again. We have the Yankees and
28:03
Speaker 2: the Red Sox on here. Zero surprise. You have the
28:05
Speaker 2: a'son here. Number two. Yankees were three, Marlins are four,
28:09
Speaker 2: Mets are five.
28:11
Speaker 4: Not very surprised, Red Sox not a surprise. Sacramento Athletics
28:15
Speaker 4: not surprising because they're mad about the move. Yankees fans
28:18
Speaker 4: are just mad because they're rerunning the team again. But
28:20
Speaker 4: they're actually doing really well, so I can't you know.
28:22
Speaker 6: That's why.
28:23
Speaker 4: Marlins? What do they have to be negati about? They
28:25
Speaker 4: knew what they're getting into. It's been the same with
28:27
Speaker 4: the Marlins for years and the Mets right now. They're
28:29
Speaker 4: just negative because they stink. So I get most of
28:32
Speaker 4: this list. The Marlins, though, what are they negative about?
28:34
Speaker 4: They knew what they were having. What they expect the
28:36
Speaker 4: ownership group to go and spend millions and millions of dollars,
28:39
Speaker 4: They don't do that they just don't, so I don't
28:41
Speaker 4: know what they should be negative about.
28:42
Speaker 6: They got a nice stadium, they just go to it.
28:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one was surprising to see on there.
28:48
Speaker 1: I mean, I know there's frustration, but usually it's almost
28:50
Speaker 1: like quiet frustration. But they're going off percentages here, not
28:54
Speaker 1: quantity of comments. There's probably way less comments from the
28:58
Speaker 1: Marlins based on market size compared to Yankees, Red Sox,
29:01
Speaker 1: and also just how many fans they have.
29:04
Speaker 2: But I guess the ones that.
29:05
Speaker 1: Are there are not too pleased from last season heading
29:08
Speaker 1: into this season. And lastly, this plays exactly in to
29:11
Speaker 1: your point about Rockies fans. They are just loving life
29:14
Speaker 1: out there in Denver, even though the game got banged
29:17
Speaker 1: tonight because I think it's like freezing rain, you know,
29:21
Speaker 1: in early May out in Denver. But they were voted
29:23
Speaker 1: or they were ranked as the most positive fandom in
29:28
Speaker 1: baseball when they evaluated the blogs. Rockies won, Cardinals, two Nationals,
29:35
Speaker 1: three Pirates for Orioles five. I guess it's good living
29:39
Speaker 1: down in the Beltway too, huh.
29:42
Speaker 4: I mean, Rockies, it's because they're a mile high that
29:46
Speaker 4: they're positive and they have good beer in course field.
29:51
Speaker 4: Cardinals fans are positive about everything. Pirates fans are positive
29:56
Speaker 4: because they actually did spend some money this year, so
29:58
Speaker 4: that's good. Nationals Yeah, I mean, I guess they're hoping
30:01
Speaker 4: James would and those teams and then the Orioles.
30:03
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't, I don't.
30:05
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess because they're they're hope with hope, right,
30:08
Speaker 4: and those teams. A lot of those teams have hope,
30:09
Speaker 4: and hope is a good thing.
30:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, And most Orioles fans were, of course pretty perturbed
30:16
Speaker 1: last season, but then in the offseason, most of them
30:18
Speaker 1: were pretty pumped when they got peed Alonzo. So that's
30:20
Speaker 1: where you saw a lot of positivity. Good segment. Interesting.
30:24
Speaker 1: I'd like to look at these studies. There's some things
30:26
Speaker 1: that always shock the world. Yeah, exactly,