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S7 288. Matt Hammack - Strategic Regional Reconnaissance, Dreams, and Spiritual Mapping in P.A · Millennial Mustard Seed

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  That's tough. We're in a very tough spot.
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  I think that what we're doing right now is a great benefit and
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  virtue because it's an end around between this whole
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  corrupt informational system, media system.
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  We claim to believe in a God who spoke the universe into
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  existence and literally raised himself from the dead, and yet
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  we are not going to believe that anything else exists in the
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  spirit realm, even though His word tells us that they do.
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  Their bodies weren't permitted to go to sleep like humans do,
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  and they weren't permitted to go to heaven, so they wander the
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  earth. You know, I've seen the eyes
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  turn black to unknown tongues being spoken.
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  These giants would look way up in the highland, the old graves.
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  The young men would hide up in the trees and wait for one of
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  these 12 footers to come walking down the bath and they would
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  jump on them and kill them, drag them back to the village and the
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  village would feast on the body. Then people start to get
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  weapons, they start to get armor, they start to build
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  cities, they start to fortify their cities.
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  Now God looks down and there's violence everywhere.
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  The battle, this war that we are at, is not against each other.
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  It's against these principalities and these rulers
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  and these archons in the high places.
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  It's really worthwhile to read the Bible.
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  Yourself fear is one of the primary drivers of mind control
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  because we have to take every thought captive and resist fear.
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  You're going to have a testimony that is a justice case against
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  the Kingdom of darkness. Welcome back to the MMSI am your
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  producer, creator and host Rod Smith.
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  Thank you for being here with me for another banging episode.
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  I'm joined by Matt Hammock. He talks about his faith journey
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  from a worldly background to walking in the supernatural.
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  He shares encounters how he organically fell into the
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  spiritual mapping that our good friend Doctor Lara Sanger talks
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  a great bit about and the strategies for regional revival.
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  And whether you're new to these concepts or you're deeply
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  immersed in it, this episode definitely offers biblical
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  insights and practical tips for spiritual warfare and the
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  awakening that's ahead of us. Once again, Matt gets into his
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  testimony of salvation living overseas multiple different
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  times. When he was a kid, they lived in
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  Saudi Arabia, South America, and he went on to join the Navy and
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  traveled with that doing submarine work, eventually
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  ending up as like a nuclear physicist or something crazy
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  like that you guys will hear about.
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  All of it. I mean, we do get into prophetic
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  timeline, sacred dates, the significance of calendar events,
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  and Matt shares some dreams and visions he's had over the years,
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  which are quite interesting. Man, today is a time that we
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  need to really be sharpening each other and leaning into what
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  God is speaking, what discernment really means, and
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  what are we doing with the million different messages and
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  signals and messaging signals that are floating around?
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  There's a lot of moving parts. You know, I've been trying to
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  pay attention slightly to what's going on in the news and I'm
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  seeing headlines come from the news organizations talking about
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  alien deceptions and about Matt Gaetz now, you know, talking
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  about alien human hybrid disclosures and all this stuff.
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  And I'm, I sit here and think, man, this really brings
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  credibility to ministries like what I do here in the MMS, what
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  Dan Duvall does at Bride Ministries, what Canary Cry
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  Radio, the family over there, what those guys are doing.
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  And there's many others I left out, but the, the, the purpose
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  is God has a worldview that we are to learn in the spirit.
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  You can't learn this just from reading at face value.
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  There's a timing, a meaning, and an importance to all these
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  things. And we're experiencing that
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  today. Some of Matt's commentary on
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  this episode talks about his personal insight and revelation
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  into this discernment into these understandings.
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  That the whole body. Is signed up for, whether you
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  realize that or not. God is trying to wake us up and
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  get us to realize it's deeper. It's more strange and more
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  important than you might have given credence to prior.
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  Really hope that you guys enjoy this episode.
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  Keep this intro kind of short and to the point.
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  notes for all the things. Hopefully you guys really enjoy
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  review, it really makes a difference.
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  And I think it's about time to jump into this episode.
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  I'm ready. Are you guys ready?
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  Let's go, Let's go. Matt, what's going on, buddy?
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  Doing well, not a whole lot, just in the basement.
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  Trying to steer clear of the family as we move into this
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  podcast. Yeah.
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  So a lot of stuff has been brewing.
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  You know, we just, we just entered the Jubilee here on the
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  MMS, right. So by the time the listeners
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  hear this message, we're officially into the 7th.
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  Year. Which I wonder quite often how I
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  made it this far. It's still like grace and grace
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  alone. I haven't met you in person yet,
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  though we're meeting tonight, Video and audio.
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  But we've talked a number of time on the phone and you have
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  hung out with some of my closest kin, BHB and Holistic Nick.
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  Shout out to both of them. I want you to talk about, you
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  know, your upbringing, how you came to the Lord, what you used
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  to do professionally, anything that just kind of the Lord wants
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  to guide you into. We'll, we'll call this a
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  foundational episode because I feel like the Lord is going to
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  work between me and you. You're not too far from me.
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  Hey, MMS family, another Pennsylvanian here.
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  So we met another guy who's in the state.
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  You're about an hour and a half north of me.
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  Matt Hammock, officially welcome to the MMS.
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  Yeah, I really appreciate you having me on my background, man.
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  I, I, I have moved around a lot. I've, I've lived all over the
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  world. My, my family traveled a lot.
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  My dad was in construction and, you know, we traveled all around
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  the world. So my, my, my earliest memories
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  of, of, of the faith really were when I was, you know, 4-4 years
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  old, we lived in Saudi Arabia and, you know, we all know what
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  it's like to, to be Christians overseas and in the Middle East
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  and just, we would meet secretly if you're like Sunday school and
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  stuff. And, you know, so that was kind
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  of my earliest, earliest start with it.
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  You know, we grew up in, I grew up in the Episcopal Church.
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  You know, I was confirmed in the Episcopal Church when I was in
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  high school and kind of fell away, you know, I went to
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  college and, you know, didn't, wasn't ready mature wise, you
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  know, and just did all the things partying and things that
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  we know that that kind of lead we we fall into in those states.
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  So some of us anyway. And then, you know, things got
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  real tough. You know, I I failed out of
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  school. I went to go work construction
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  for a while and you know, that wasn't going well.
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  And, and I was at this like really low point in my life
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  where man, I was like having suicidal thoughts, you know,
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  like just not good. And at this low point, I was
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  living with my best friend from high school and his
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  brother-in-law was a Navy recruiter.
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  And, and it was like I was, I was at that point where suicide
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  was like heavily on my mind. And he knocks on the door.
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  And, you know, I ended up joining the Navy.
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  I spent six years in the Navy. I was a submariner.
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  I met my wife while going to school in the Navy and she's the
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  reason why I ended up in Pennsylvania.
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  You know, she she's from this area and we end up getting
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  married. And when I got out of the Navy,
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  we ended up moving here. She's a Lutheran.
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  She grew up in a Lutheran Church and that's where we got married.
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  And, you know, we've spent some time in the Lutheran Church, but
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  just felt like something was missing, you know, and started
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  searching and we ended up in the Pentecostal church for a while.
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  And that's where, you know, the Lord really got a hold of me on
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  October 16th of 2022, I was baptized in the Holy Spirit.
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  And, you know, things changed, you know, like I was not the
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  same person. You know, my perspective of
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  salvation kind of changed because I had all the head
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  knowledge, you know, growing up and, and, and going to church
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  and you know, but I didn't live it out, you know, I didn't, I
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  didn't have the, the heart change and the spirit to, to
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  lead me in that direction. And that really was the start of
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  a lot of craziness in my life because, you know, the spirit
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  started revealing a lot of things, went through a lot of
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  deliverance, you know, had a lot of affliction and, you know,
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  bad, you know, you know, things that I was, you know, I was
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  addicted to porn. I, you know, I had, I had issues
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  with, with drinking and, you know, a lot of things like that.
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  And, you know, the Lord delivered me from those things.
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  And it was, you know, really a, really an interesting,
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  interesting, you know, adventure really, I mean, you see the,
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  the, the peaks and valleys of, of, of this world.
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  And, you know, once you've experienced the, the living
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  water of Christ like you, there's nothing else like it.
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  And it's all you can focus on, you know?
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  So, so on a backtrack just a little bit, you mentioned that
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  you lived in Saudi Arabia when you were four years old.
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  How many how many countries did you live in and and why were you
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  in Saudi Arabia at 4:00? Yeah.
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  So I lived in Saudi Arabia and Venezuela were the 2 main
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  countries. So Venezuela was first actually
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  when I was when I was still in diapers, I was like my first
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  memories are in Venezuela for for a couple of years.
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  And then we moved back to originally from Texas, moved
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  back to Texas for a little bit and then we moved to Saudi
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  Arabia. My dad actually worked on oil
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  refineries and chemical plants. So the company that he worked
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  for, you know, you know, you made more money when you went
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  overseas. So we went overseas in multiple
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  times, multiple times to to do that.
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  And we were actually in Jubel, which is right on the Persian
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  Gulf is is where we were in Saudi Arabia.
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  But yeah. Amazing.
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  And professionally, let's talk a little bit about that.
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  I know you have an interesting background, you know, and the
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  reason I'm asking this is right, this is foundational episode for
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  you just to kind of lay out who you are, whatever transparency
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  you'd like to share. I know that many people wrestle
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  with porn. So bringing that up, it's a
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  heartthrob, right? This is a problem.
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  Most churches will not have these conversations.
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  And so that vulnerability, I just applaud you for that, bro.
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  And I, I want to ask like professionally, because the God
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  does strategically use people and even take people out of
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  secular organizations. You know, you spend time in the
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  Navy, there's stuff that you learn there.
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  God is, is literally looking for anybody who's willing to allow
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  him to work. But there's certain individuals
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  that bring a skill set or experiences that play a
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  significant role in what God is doing today.
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  Yeah, so my background, you know, my, my dad being in
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  construction, I grew up learning a lot about construction in
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  different trades. You know, even while I was in
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  college, I would work for my dad, you know, as as a laborer
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  or a truck driver or whatever it was.
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  You know, he was teaching about the different trades.
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  When when I was done with college, I actually was a
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  Carpenter for a while. I built homes for a little bit,
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  residential homes. And then I was in the commercial
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  industry for a little while doing commercial construction.
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  And then when I joined the Navy, I actually became an
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  electrician. So I was in the nuclear Navy.
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  So I was a nuclear electrician on submarines and then, you
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  know, I always wanted to finish college.
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  So when I, when I got out of the Navy, I went to school.
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  I have a nuclear engineering technology degree.
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  And then I worked in the, the nuclear industry for, for about
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  four years at a nuclear power plant doing operations.
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  And then I was in the utility industry for about 13 years and,
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  you know, operating the grid, doing planning and engineering
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  and, you know, management in, in utility industry.
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  In 2024, the Lord called me away from that.
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  He started to give me some dreams was showing like this,
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  this, this change was going to be happening.
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  Like I was going to be changing careers and jobs.
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  You know, you don't fully know what God is showing like, but it
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  was multiple times, I mean, that probably four or five different
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  dreams where he was showing it. And, you know, there was some,
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  some organizational changes that went on where, you know, I had
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  the opportunity to, to leave. And, you know, when it was going
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  on, like I just felt the presence of the Lord saying this
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  is what I was showing you, you know, just just hold on to the
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  plan and, and move forward and, and have faith and take this
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  leap of faith with me. And, you know, I have you and I
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  have a plan for you. And initially, you know, I
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  wasn't sure what that was going to look like, but I have a
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  brother, you know, brother in Christ, the Lord has, you know,
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  brought us together and we actually started a business
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  together. You know, it had to go.
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  The business was related to all these things that I grew up
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  doing in construction and electrical and all these things
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  that I kind of moved on from. But that's what the Lord wanted
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  me to do in this business. So the, the business is called
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  Kingdom Builders. And it's not just, you know,
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  doing remodeling and, and construction work.
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  You know, God really chose the name for us because it's about
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  building and advancing his Kingdom and being able to go
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  into people's homes and properties and, and, and, you
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  know, minister to them, you know, show Christ to them in the
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  way that we behave and, and the way that we work.
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  And then, you know, that's led to other opportunities and God
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  revealing some, some things about spiritual mapping and, and
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  those kind of things coming up and being able to, to lead
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  people into prayer and, and cleansing their home or their
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  property and, and just really seeing God move mightily in
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  these situations. It's just been, it's just been
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  an awesome adventure and a blessing.
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  I mean, obviously there's trials that go with it and there's
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  times where you're like, God, what am I doing?
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  Like what were you going with this?
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  But but when you look back and you actually start thinking
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  about the fruit and every step that he was there to guide you
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  and protect you and to and to just lead you in in into his
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  plans and purposes. Man, it's just been, it's been
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  an awesome experience. So one of the key things that
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  you said there, the spiritual mapping, right?
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  Let's get weird. Why not?
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  Let's have fun. Let's talk about that.
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  You know, a good friend of mine personally and a friend of the
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  show, Doctor Laura Sanger is prolific spiritual mapper, woman
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  of Christ. And you know, when I was
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  originally talking with you about this topic, you were
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  telling me what you were doing and I'm going, how did you guys
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  start this? You know, and so I'll ask the
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  question again just just to capture that conversation
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  because your responses really kind of blew me away.
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  To be expected because spirit LED is the key here.
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  The sons of God are LED by the Spirit of God.
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  So, Matt, how did you start spiritual mapping?
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  I know you've had some crazy encounters doing this.
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  Let's get into it. Yeah, well, I'll start with the
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  terminology. I, I had never heard the
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  terminology spiritual mapping until I talked to Rod.
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  I didn't even really know what to call it.
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  I, I just felt like it was advancing God's Kingdom and, and
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  cleansing, cleansing territories of, of, you know, where the
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  enemy is, has, has gained a foothold since then.
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  I've listened to, to Doctor Sander about, you know, about
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  her view on spiritual mapping and it makes it lines up with
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  what I've seen. You know, I hadn't, I hadn't,
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  you know, put it all together like that.
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  But yeah, the, I'm trying to think the, the first time it
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  happened, the Lord actually, you know, there was a, there's a
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  place, I'll just be generic a little bit 'cause, you know, for
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  confidentiality. But there's a place that I, I
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  know some people that are, are part of a, of an organization.
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  And I started having dreams, you know, about stuff that was going
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  on there, you know, and the way that it, it came about like
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  there was witchcraft that was there, you know, and, and there
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  was like a, a, a, a sin that happened in the past.
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  And, you know, God started giving me these things and I did
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  a little research, right? Like, OK, there was these, these
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  two people that were murdered like the Lord had revealed.
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  And then I'm, I'm, I'm digging in.
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  Well, where did this happen? And then I found an article that
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  that that showed that like this happened on this day, you know,
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  and you know, then, then the Lord always verifies things,
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  right? Like he gives you 2 or 3
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  witnesses. And like, I'm sharing with some,
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  some people that I know. And they're like, yeah, I saw
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  this. And in the 1980s there, you
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  know, and, and there was this guy with me and they saw the
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  witchcraft and like they, they were there when this was going
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  on, you know, and then another brother was like, yeah, I saw it
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  on, you know, and in the 90s or whatever, you know, and, and,
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  but the Lord was like showing and, and giving me this whole
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  story. And then I was able to go and,
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  you know, with that, with those people that I know, we were able
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  to repent. We were able to pray over it,
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  like cast that stuff out. And it was just, it's just
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  amazing how how God brought all these things together.
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  You can't make it up. It's just like the Spirit
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  moving. And, you know, that was the
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  first one. Then there was other times
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  where, you know, I just show up in somebody's house and the Holy
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  Spirit says blah, blah, blah, what happened here?
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  You know, children were murdered here, you know, and you know,
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  I'm like, you got to get weird. Hey guys, you ever anything
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  strange happened in your house, you know, and you start asking
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  questions and you know, it's always amazing because people
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  are always so open to it. You're you're, you know, it's
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  surprising because it's, you know, you think you bring that
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  something like that, like get out of here crazy, like what are
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  you talking about? But again, when you're led by
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  the spirit, like the people's hearts are prepared, like
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  everything is prepared and only thing we have to do is just take
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  that step of obedience and allow the Lord the Lord to work.
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  So. Yeah, that's powerful, man.
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  We have a lot of biblical examples of of God preparing
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  hearts and areas and even there being, you know, stubborn people
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  that didn't want the light coming into the region.
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  You know, there's this plenty of stories and foundational work
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  biblically for us to look into. Even how he sent out apostles,
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  you know he would send out people beforehand.
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  That would search out the area, figure out what was going on
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  there. Now the scripture is pretty,
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  pretty clear. You know, I've, I've talked
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  quite a bit about this over the years with, with Dan.
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  Many my listeners obviously will know Dan Duvall.
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  And you can't get around the fact that the prophetic
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  narrative is is saying that the earth itself is moaning and
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  groaning for the identity of the sons of God to be made manifest,
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  to be made known. And so I mean.
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  Some people will call this the woo woo, right?
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  They go, oh man, that's you've gone too far that that's
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  supposed to be parabolic or that's supposed to, you know,
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  they want to slap a term on it to try to desupernaturalize the
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  Bible. But it is the most supernatural
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  document in existence. So when we see the confirmations
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  in there, like the land will work with us just like it worked
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  with Moses. The land was opening up and
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  swallowing disobedient, you know, backbiters at that time.
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  And I don't think it's going to look terribly different in the
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  future. And so I think the spiritual
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  mapping thing is of significance because, you know, me and Sanger
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  go back to like 2021-2022. Before her.
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  I didn't, I've never heard of spiritual mapping.
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  I didn't know that there was actually a protocol.
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  I didn't know that there was biblical principles involved.
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  The coolest thing is when I find people that are literally
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  venturing out who don't know the lingo, haven't read the book
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  right, but God is tugging them and they're kind of like
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  fulfilling a role. Like they're like they're
• 21:30
  piercing something together that is strategic for a region.
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  This is where what what you're doing and and what I'm doing and
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  many others like us becomes very important.
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  You know, because if we actually realized that the ekklesia, the
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  body, we're supposed to be working in tandem, in unison,
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  recognizing each other, saying, I see you, what you're doing is
• 21:51
  important just the same way as what the Lord has allowed me to
• 21:55
  have this ministry. I don't think it's by accident
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  at all. I think 7 years, eight years
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  ago, it was a divine appointment just as it is a divine
• 22:03
  appointment today, because today was an interesting date for you.
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  We were on the phone and I'm like, I got these three days
• 22:12
  open. Pick one quick before the
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  schedule changes. And you hit me right back and
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  you said, Rod, I'm choosing this date to come on the MMS, and
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  then you started texting me scriptures and things and stuff
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  and I'm just like, yeah, OK, that makes sense.
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  Any comments on that, Matt? Yeah, You know, one of the
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  things that the Lord has like shown me in the past is when he
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  highlights dates to me, like dig into it.
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  So like when, when, when Rod was, was giving me a schedule
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  and, and today's date, the 25th, when he said it, I felt the Holy
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  Spirit. I just felt like a, a pulse
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  like, hey, that's the date, right.
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  And I felt LED after we got off the phone to go look at the
• 22:56
  Jewish calendar. Now, there's a lot of debates on
• 22:58
  calendars, but this is one of the ways that the Lord has has
• 23:01
  revealed things to me. And, you know, when I went and
• 23:04
  looked at it, it was a specific thing in Jewish history that was
• 23:10
  the Jews prepared to enter Canaan.
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  So the Jewish nation mourned for 30 days following the passing of
• 23:15
  Moses. And during the time Joshua, the
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  new leader of the Jewish nation, sent scouts to spy on the land
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  of Canaans. You know, it has a history
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  there. So the 7th of Nissan, which is
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  today, is the first day after the mourning period came to the
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  end. And Joshua instructed the Jews,
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  and then they got ready to prepare themselves to enter the
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  promised land. And you know, I just felt the
• 23:37
  Lord say to me like this is the step that I'm taking you in to
• 23:41
  prepare you to enter the promised land.
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  So you know what, what does that mean, right?
• 23:46
  What is that? What is the the entering of the
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  promised land mean? It means whatever God has
• 23:51
  promised you and showed you about your ministry or your
• 23:53
  future, like it's starting to come into fruition, right?
• 23:57
  And that's what I feel like like today is but it, but it's really
• 24:02
  interesting because, you know, we come under a lot of attacks
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  like you, you've come under some attacks.
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  And since we, we've planned this, you know, the enemy is
• 24:13
  always trying to break up, plugging out the plans of God.
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  He's trying to break up, you know, relationships and, and
• 24:19
  things like that. And it's so important that we
• 24:22
  learn how to, how to do spiritual warfare.
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  And we, we, we, we have a site that we can see, you know, where
• 24:28
  the enemy is moving and why and what are the things that we're
• 24:31
  doing when we're in obedience that are causing him to come
• 24:34
  against us, You know, and you know, one of the things that,
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  that, you know, the Lord has shown me, you know, 'cause you
• 24:42
  can get worn out with these things.
• 24:43
  So one of the things he has said though to me was that Matt, the
• 24:47
  reason I allow these attacks is 1.
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  You learn perseverance and you grow spiritually through it.
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  But I'm showing you all the enemies tactics.
• 24:57
  When the enemy attacks you, he's showing himself and you learn
• 25:02
  from these situations and then you can help minister to others
• 25:05
  and set them free from similar types of attacks.
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  So it's a perspective that we need to keep when we're going
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  through things like what is the Lord trying to show me?
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  What is the enemy doing that I need to learn and understand not
• 25:18
  only for myself and my own growth, but also, you know, that
• 25:21
  I can share with others. And I wanted to touch one thing
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  too, when we were talking about the spiritual mapping, and this
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  is relating to spiritual warfare as well.
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  One of the things that I felt the Lord say to me was was, you
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  know, the houses, the properties, the land, the things
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  that he's that we that we have done.
• 25:40
  He said, when you get done, there's going to be a what's the
• 25:44
  demonic star or pentagram? There's going to be a pentagram
• 25:48
  over the eastern side of Pennsylvania that's going to be
• 25:50
  made by all these properties. So not only are we setting like
• 25:54
  the people and that property free, but it has a greater
• 25:58
  effect because the location and the symbology of what how these
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  things were done has it, you know, it gives control over a
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  region. So when you think about people
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  calling for revival, these are the, the, the starting points of
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  how we get to revival. We have to set the land free.
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  We have to then then preach the gospel to the people.
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  So they, they, they, they learn who Jesus is.
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  But when you start to when you start, when the Lord starts to
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  remove the, the sin, the the, the curses, the affliction over
• 26:30
  land, that's when the spirit can move right, The hearts are set
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  free and true revival can actually come out of that.
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  So I just wanted to throw that in as well.
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  Yeah, it's, I mean, well said Nick, Holistic.
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  You met Nick? He has a saying.
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  It's it's private prayer produces public power, right.
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  And so when we have these the tugging, the nudges for this
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  deeper God, I want all that you have for me.
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  I don't want to hold it back. I don't care if people think I'm
• 27:02
  crazy. I'm going to find my tribe,
• 27:05
  right? We're going to do this thing the
• 27:07
  right way and send me the people right to sharpen, to lean on.
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  And when we start actually living that out and God is
• 27:15
  calling us into deeper things like Hebrews talks about when
• 27:18
  you get into Hebrews, it's like, man, you know, the the milk is
• 27:21
  good there. There's a season for that and
• 27:23
  what we're supposed to lean away into the identity of what it's
• 27:29
  like to be in Christ because when Christ was here, he's
• 27:31
  walking on waters first of the risen through walls.
• 27:34
  He did walk. I mean, rebuking storms, right?
• 27:37
  He has, he rebukes the fig tree for not producing fruit in its
• 27:42
  season, curses it and it it's withering right, right before
• 27:46
  their eyes almost. And so this idea for Christians
• 27:50
  to start to spiritual map their local region, it's long past due
• 27:56
  the prophetic narrative. It there's hundreds of
• 27:59
  scriptures we could go through. I've done it for 300 episodes.
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  I mean, it's there, right? And we can hash out some of that
• 28:04
  again tonight. But I think what I'm excited
• 28:07
  about, Matt, is this ripple effect going out.
• 28:09
  People, first of all, realizing I'm not crazy, right?
• 28:13
  Because some people are stumbling into this not reading
• 28:17
  generation hoodwinked by Doctor Law or not knowing who the late
• 28:21
  Doctor Chuck Missler is, right? Not knowing these kind of
• 28:24
  profound tip of the spear individuals who've won out and
• 28:28
  helped gather a template, you know, like to write down the
• 28:32
  vision. Does that ring a bell for
• 28:34
  anybody? Was that what Moses was doing
• 28:37
  right? And, and, and understanding and
• 28:40
  totality, the way that we're supposed to work as an ekklesia
• 28:43
  in our regions. Because let's face it, I I'm not
• 28:48
  the kind of guy who believes we need to take over the world for
• 28:50
  Christ to come back. I I'm not going to.
• 28:52
  I don't believe that, OK, But I believe in preparing a bride at
• 28:59
  the loss of being in the cool kids club for church, right?
• 29:02
  So I'll be, I'll be the black sheep.
• 29:04
  You can shun me in church. You know, they don't need to
• 29:07
  invite me to speak there. They don't need to.
• 29:09
  You know, I'd rather go to an alien conference, to be honest
• 29:12
  with you and preach the gospel there.
• 29:14
  But not to discredit them, but I think that the what God's doing
• 29:19
  is going over the heads of religious people.
• 29:21
  I don't think they're going to the religious spirits are not
• 29:23
  going to understand it because they want to compartmentalize
• 29:26
  everything they wanted to fit in a box.
• 29:28
  It has to be what their great granddaddy talked about.
• 29:30
  And my dad was a pastor and we're in the Bible Belt and
• 29:33
  we're what you know, I've heard all the stories, I've had all
• 29:35
  the attacks, but I've also had this encouragement in these sub
• 29:39
  pockets of individuals all around the country, all around
• 29:43
  the world that are waking up organically.
• 29:48
  God is saying moving, moving this way.
• 29:51
  God, tell me the details. I'll tell you when you get
• 29:53
  there. Does that sound familiar?
• 29:54
  Right. So you got Matt over here,
• 29:56
  spiritual mapping on the other end of starting spiritual
• 30:00
  mapping is he finding out Doctor Laura Sanger has given us a
• 30:04
  template and it the maximum amount of revelation is not
• 30:09
  there. I don't think anybody has
• 30:11
  everything, you know, figured out to a tee.
• 30:15
  So there's always room for us to learn and grow.
• 30:17
  So, you know, that's one of the things, once I heard that's what
• 30:20
  was going on with you, I'm like, hey, Matt, you're coming on the
• 30:24
  podcast. And you were like, oh, yeah, the
• 30:26
  spirit told me I was going to do that.
• 30:28
  And I was like, great, we'll pick a date now.
• 30:31
  So I mean, you did mention dreams, right?
• 30:34
  Early, early on, maybe 20 minutes ago in in the beginning
• 30:38
  of this conversation, you had mentioned that God was giving
• 30:40
  you some dreams and showing you stuff.
• 30:43
  You've shared a couple dreams with me that are profound.
• 30:46
  So I want to talk a little bit about that kind of spiritual
• 30:49
  waking, right? Like you, you talked about
• 30:51
  having a church background. You talked about jumping from,
• 30:54
  you know, Lutheran to, you know, maybe a Pentecostal.
• 30:59
  You need to mention you were in and out of churches, but how did
• 31:02
  you morph in? Like how was God working on you
• 31:04
  spiritually and dreams and vision and just drawing you
• 31:09
  closer to him and less conformed to the the four walls, if I can
• 31:16
  say it that way? Yeah, it's interesting.
• 31:20
  So we, we left the, the institutional church, I guess I
• 31:23
  should say. And and I think it was 2024 when
• 31:26
  when we left and we felt led to, to start with, with some other
• 31:30
  families to start doing home church together.
• 31:33
  And you know, there was a lot of dreams that the Lord revealed
• 31:37
  leading up to that point. I was very hesitant to do it
• 31:41
  just because I have kids, you know, and they're involved in
• 31:44
  like, you know, all those things that that are a part of that.
• 31:48
  And probably, you know, admitting that I was probably
• 31:50
  delayed in my obedience. I feel like probably months, you
• 31:54
  know, up to a year earlier, God was calling me.
• 31:57
  But it took time, you know, to to go through some things.
• 32:01
  But but leading to that, you know, talking about dreams, you
• 32:06
  know, dreams are, are, are something that we all have
• 32:09
  access to. We just have to ask what you
• 32:11
  know, we have a father that loves us and we can ask for
• 32:14
  these gifts. You know, we, we know in Joel
• 32:16
  and in acts, it talks about in the last days that, you know,
• 32:18
  we'll have the year old men is old men will dream, have dreams
• 32:21
  and young men will have visions or whatever.
• 32:22
  But you know, we can ask God to to do that.
• 32:25
  You know, I, I started asking for dreams and I would get them,
• 32:28
  you know, periodically, you know, as more I leaned into it,
• 32:32
  the more dreams that I had. And you know, at this point, you
• 32:35
  know, now, I mean, I have them every night.
• 32:37
  I don't, you know, sometimes it's months or a year later till
• 32:40
  till I get a revelation on what that dream may mean.
• 32:43
  But they're there every night. And you know, I think it's
• 32:47
  something is, you know, for your for your listeners, it's just
• 32:50
  seek it. You know, God will, will provide
• 32:53
  that if you seek him for it, you know, and, and then when you do
• 32:58
  start having them, you start writing them down.
• 33:00
  You hopefully you have a, a spiritual father that you can
• 33:03
  discuss these things with or, or some brothers that they're
• 33:06
  sisters that, that, that can give you insight to it as well.
• 33:09
  But what I found with dreams is, you know, they don't always tell
• 33:14
  you what's going to happen. You know, you don't always know
• 33:16
  beforehand. But what I find is when I'm
• 33:18
  going through it or right afterwards, I can look back at
• 33:21
  the dream and be like, OK, that's what he was showing me,
• 33:24
  you know, so they're, they're, they're, they work in different
• 33:27
  ways. Sometimes he's telling you
• 33:29
  things in the future that you understand and it and it makes
• 33:32
  sense. Or he's calling you to do
• 33:33
  something, you know, in the, in the here and now.
• 33:36
  But I think, you know, some of it is when you're sitting in the
• 33:40
  moment, you're like, oh, I understand this is from him.
• 33:43
  And it just gives you a piece because he's letting you know in
• 33:47
  that moment that he, he's he, it was all of him.
• 33:49
  You know, this is this is his plan for you and what he's
• 33:52
  calling you to do. So yeah, I can go over some of
• 33:55
  the dreams if you want. But you know, there's kind of
• 33:57
  my, my thoughts on dreams. Yeah, well, why don't you share
• 34:00
  1, you know, one or two dreams with us?
• 34:03
  I'm not a prolific dreamer. I have them randomly.
• 34:07
  I man, I've had some crazy visions over the years, and I
• 34:11
  shared one of the dreams with you on the phone last week when
• 34:14
  we talked. I've yet to share it completely
• 34:17
  on the podcast. There's a date coming.
• 34:19
  I'm sure that that I'll be talking about that.
• 34:23
  But I want to hear about some of your dreams, you know, anything
• 34:26
  that the Spirit leads you to because you know, one of my good
• 34:29
  friends, Vicki Joy Anderson, she, she talks a lot about
• 34:31
  dreams, the dream world. We see a lot of new age stuff in
• 34:36
  the dream world talk people talking about controlling their
• 34:38
  dreams and doing stuff in the dreams and repetitive dreams.
• 34:43
  But the Bible has a very specific relation when it comes
• 34:49
  to dreams, right? So we know that God speaks to
• 34:51
  the prophet still small voice, right visions and dreams.
• 34:55
  He speaks through the ephod right.
• 34:56
  So there's, there's a couple ways that the Lord is speaking
• 34:59
  to those who are prophetic and the enemy is definitely not an
• 35:05
  inventor of many great, if not, well, nothing good.
• 35:09
  But he's, he invents some things, but it typically
• 35:13
  dovetails with what God is doing.
• 35:15
  So the enemy can also mess with dreams.
• 35:18
  We hear nightmares, right? I mean, it's basic the hat man
• 35:21
  experience. You know, the night terrors,
• 35:25
  sleep paralysis is a big one. I get a lot of people that are
• 35:28
  like, man, I'm dealing with and I'm like, Hey, guess what, we
• 35:31
  got something for you on that. But you know, I, I think that
• 35:34
  there's there's dreamers that that are getting a portion of
• 35:41
  something from the Lord that the ripple effect goes out even if
• 35:45
  one person hears it and it clicks for them and they're
• 35:47
  like, man, I had a similar dream and I felt like God was tugging
• 35:51
  on me. We don't know how that's going
• 35:53
  to work. We don't know what listeners
• 35:55
  ears this is going to fall on, right?
• 35:56
  This message is going to go out and it's going to do its job.
• 35:59
  But I do want you to talk about at least one or two different
• 36:03
  dream and take as much time as you need.
• 36:05
  You know, feel free to add remove any details, but let
• 36:09
  let's dive into that here. Yeah, well, I have one that that
• 36:15
  came to mind when you were talking about preparing the
• 36:17
  bride of Christ, because I, I've had several related to that.
• 36:20
  But one stood out to me when you, when you said that earlier.
• 36:24
  And I had a dream where, you know, I was in, I was outside
• 36:27
  this building and it was like in the in the middle of the night
• 36:30
  and I was going to find my wife, you know, it was going to look
• 36:34
  for her. And I came to this like double
• 36:37
  door of going in a building. And there was there was these
• 36:41
  all there was like these virgins, young girls.
• 36:43
  They were all were all sitting there asleep on the on the steps
• 36:46
  of before the door. And when I went to go past them
• 36:50
  to open the door, one of them woke up and she said, what are
• 36:53
  you doing awake? And you know, I went on and
• 36:57
  found my wife and that was the end of the dream.
• 36:59
  But when I, when I, when I was praying about it, the Lord said,
• 37:03
  you know, I'm preparing my forerunners or, or you can call
• 37:06
  it a pioneer, you know, or whatever you want to say that
• 37:09
  are that are awake and their job is to wake up the bride of
• 37:13
  Christ to prepare for my return. Like he's coming quickly,
• 37:17
  whatever that time is, you know, we don't know, but he's, he's,
• 37:20
  he's coming quickly. And you know, I've probably had
• 37:23
  four or five different dreams, similar type things about the
• 37:27
  the marriage supper of the lamb. But it's all about waking up the
• 37:30
  bride of Christ and letting people know that that he's that
• 37:34
  he's coming quickly. So that, that's one that that,
• 37:37
  you know, really has, you know, kind of it gives you that fire
• 37:43
  to, to, to be able to go out and do what God has called you to
• 37:47
  do. Because we, you know, we're
• 37:48
  supposed to always live that way.
• 37:50
  But when he, when he speaks that way to you and you know, it
• 37:52
  gives you an, an extra, you know, motivation, I would say
• 37:56
  to, to go out and do the things that he's called you to do.
• 37:59
  So in the dream you said that there was there was a bunch of
• 38:02
  like virgin girls. Were they sleeping or awake?
• 38:05
  They were sleeping. One of them woke.
• 38:07
  One of them woke up when I came by and ask why I was awake, so
• 38:13
  yeah. Wow.
• 38:15
  So do you think that that might hint at like maybe the curiosity
• 38:20
  or like that kind of startled nature of someone waking up and
• 38:24
  seeing other activity and being like, why are you awake?
• 38:27
  Do you think it was like it was a positive thing, right?
• 38:30
  It was a positive thing and it was, you know, obviously the
• 38:33
  Lord took me to the parable of 10 virgins, you know, and being,
• 38:35
  being ready, right? But it was about waking them up,
• 38:39
  right? When Jesus returns, they're all
• 38:41
  sleeping, right? And they all wake up.
• 38:44
  But 5 have enough oil and five don't, right?
• 38:47
  And it's about preparing those virgins, preparing the bride of
• 38:50
  Christ to fill their oil, right? And you know, there's, you know,
• 38:55
  so how we fill our oil well, we, we seek the Lord, we spend time
• 38:58
  in his presence. We'd be obedient.
• 38:59
  You know, we do those things to, to make sure we're in step with
• 39:03
  the spirit of Galatians 5 right? So that we have the oil and we
• 39:06
  are ready for his return. And I think really that's the
• 39:09
  call of the hour, right? We need to get ready for
• 39:12
  Christ's return, right? We, I've had some other dreams
• 39:15
  and visions that we can talk about that give more, more
• 39:18
  insight to that, right? But, but ultimately, what are we
• 39:21
  doing? Like what are we doing, you
• 39:24
  know, in our walk with Christ? Are we living in this world or
• 39:26
  we listen to Revelation 18 four that come out of her my people
• 39:29
  right, don't participate in her sins.
• 39:32
  You know, I just think that that that's the call, right.
• 39:36
  Like, you know, when you think about it, you know, the church
• 39:38
  is also an army. Like what are we doing to to
• 39:42
  prepare ourselves to go to battle?
• 39:44
  You know what what things of this world are we still holding
• 39:47
  on to us that are hindering us from from walking as a soldier
• 39:51
  and and being able to grow and and and and you know, here here
• 39:56
  are here are king of kings. Tell us what what he's calling
• 39:59
  us to do right. So yeah.
• 40:01
  So, so one, go ahead. One, one of the dreams that I
• 40:06
  think it was a, it was a vision really that that I had was
• 40:11
  another date and it was on May 5th of 2023.
• 40:15
  And on that, on the Jewish calendar that day, it was
• 40:18
  actually second Passover. For, for people that don't know
• 40:21
  the story of second Passover, it's when the, when the
• 40:24
  Israelites were, were, you know, in the wilderness, I think there
• 40:27
  were some men, I don't know if they touched the dead body or
• 40:29
  what, but they couldn't, couldn't celebrate Passover
• 40:31
  because they were unclean. They went to Moses and said,
• 40:34
  Hey, can you ask the Lord if we can celebrate a Passover?
• 40:38
  He went to God. God said yes.
• 40:39
  And then it was like, I don't know, 30-40 days later, I don't
• 40:42
  remember the exact details. So they had a second Passover,
• 40:47
  so that was the date on the calendar.
• 40:49
  So it was, I was sleeping and I woke up to the Holy Spirit
• 40:53
  filling me. I don't know if people
• 40:55
  understand what that feels like, but it's just like tingling from
• 40:58
  your head to your toes and just being full of the spirit.
• 41:01
  And all of a sudden I was outside and I was lost into the
• 41:04
  sky. So like, if you imagine being
• 41:06
  like a superhero where you're flying and like going up in the
• 41:09
  sky, like that's what happened. I went up into the clouds.
• 41:11
  Other people were going up too. And when I got to the clouds, I
• 41:15
  went right back to my body and I was back asleep.
• 41:19
  The next day when I woke up, you know, the Lord had taken me to,
• 41:22
  to, to to Joel chapter 2 about the day of the Lord and some,
• 41:26
  some other some other passages. But ultimately what, what, what
• 41:30
  I experienced, what I believe was the rapture, right?
• 41:33
  And seeing that the day of the Lord, you know, I think the date
• 41:36
  is, is, you know, is, is significant, you know, you know,
• 41:40
  it was on 2nd Passover. So whatever that means and
• 41:43
  whatever year, I think there's something to that, you know, but
• 41:47
  you know, that was one of the other things that really kind of
• 41:50
  like, hey, like he's, he's coming.
• 41:53
  Like we need to be, we need to get on the move and, and, and,
• 41:56
  you know, do the things that he's called us to do.
• 42:01
  Interesting So one of the conversations I've been having
• 42:08
  my buddy Pete, shout out to him from the days of Noah podcast.
• 42:11
  And we do we do a lot of micro minis together and then even
• 42:14
  long form stuff. But we we've been having this
• 42:17
  behind the scenes conversation and hopefully I'm not jumping
• 42:19
  the gun. The audience shouldn't know all
• 42:21
  the details just yet because we're we're cooking up some new
• 42:24
  pies of creativity here. But talking about prophecy from
• 42:29
  a time travel perspective, OK, Because when God is speaking to
• 42:34
  a prophet, he's showing them through a glass, dimly lit an
• 42:38
  event that has not happened yet. And so I start thinking about
• 42:41
  this without any indoctrination oppositions in mind, right?
• 42:46
  I'm just freely thinking and asking the question of like, so
• 42:50
  time travel, is this even possible?
• 42:54
  I I think yes, absolutely, but not in the traditional science,
• 42:59
  you know, weird movie night type way like Hollywood would paint
• 43:03
  it. I think that the harpazo or the
• 43:05
  snatching away this is what happens to fill up the Ethiopian
• 43:09
  unit. When he's speaking with
• 43:10
  Ethiopian unit, he's snatched man and he just he rips through
• 43:16
  what we would consider to be the resistance of time and space to
• 43:20
  appear at an appointed place to do the Lord's will.
• 43:24
  And so I'm like, well, I can time travel in my mind back to
• 43:28
  previous experiences, right? So I can, I can Daydream or I
• 43:32
  can, I can relive experiences of the past and literally feel like
• 43:36
  I went back and enjoyed, even though I'm sitting there in the
• 43:38
  chair, right? Even my nervous system will
• 43:40
  start to kind of fire a little bit like I'm reliving some bad
• 43:43
  experiences, some good experiences, right?
• 43:46
  And I'm like, so I can go back in my mind now I'm the, the
• 43:50
  Bible says I'm body, soul and spirit.
• 43:52
  I'm not just a physical piece of flesh and that's it.
• 43:55
  So what part of me traveled back and then I'm like, oh, I'm
• 44:00
  seated right now in my house, but I'm also in a heavenly place
• 44:04
  according to scriptures cur intense with Christ Jesus right
• 44:07
  in a heavenly place, one of the hash mayims one of the heavens.
• 44:12
  So this this is a little bit mysterious.
• 44:14
  And once again, this is more of a behind the scenes
• 44:17
  conversation. I'm a little premature on
• 44:18
  bringing it up, but I started to think time travel.
• 44:23
  If if the Lord is showing you something that didn't happen yet
• 44:26
  experientially in your bubble, right of of temporal existence,
• 44:31
  then what he showed you was a piece of the future.
• 44:35
  That's prophecy, right? You're you're stating out what
• 44:38
  has not yet come to pass. And then to the Hebrew mindset,
• 44:43
  prophecy is poetic in the fact that it's rhythmic, right?
• 44:46
  Many Joshua's and Caleb's, there's not just one.
• 44:50
  Joshua and Caleb, we can take them guys.
• 44:53
  We definitely can take them. And I don't want to wander in
• 44:56
  the desert for 40 more years. So I need more than just a
• 44:59
  couple witnesses on with me on this one, but I digress.
• 45:03
  So this concept of time travel is not outside of the the
• 45:08
  equation for me. And what you experienced in that
• 45:12
  dream, Matt, do you think possibly you said had to do with
• 45:17
  the rapture? I think that's fascinating.
• 45:19
  Yeah, you know, rapture or day of the Lord, like whatever you
• 45:24
  know you want to, however you want to, whatever you believe in
• 45:26
  that. I don't, I don't know what you
• 45:28
  know, the typical belief is for that, but you know, the other
• 45:32
  was. Like you were removed, right?
• 45:34
  Like you were shot up and then you said you woke up in your
• 45:37
  body again. Yeah, you know.
• 45:39
  Yeah. And you know, the, the aspect of
• 45:42
  it, you know, you, you, the interesting thought when you
• 45:45
  talked about what, what time travel and, and just the
• 45:47
  thought, you know, God is, you know, obviously omnipresent.
• 45:50
  He's not only omnipresent here, but across time, right?
• 45:53
  And you know, when you think about that and you think about
• 45:56
  the amount of transfiguration, you know, when Jesus and, and
• 45:59
  the disciple, the three disciples were, were seeing, you
• 46:02
  know, Jesus and his glorified body with, with Moses and
• 46:04
  Elijah, what they see in a future state, right?
• 46:07
  Like were they seeing, you know, in that, in that future state of
• 46:11
  where they where they are glorified?
• 46:13
  I think they I think they were, you know, I think there's
• 46:16
  something to that. I mean, obviously we don't know
• 46:18
  for sure, but but there's definitely could have could have
• 46:20
  been. So I thought of that when you
• 46:22
  were talking about, you know, the time aspect of what God had
• 46:24
  shown me there. But it's, but it's an
• 46:27
  interesting thing because it felt so it felt so real, like it
• 46:31
  felt like, you know, it was the real thing.
• 46:34
  It wasn't like just a dream where you're experiencing and
• 46:36
  remembering it later kind of thing where this was like vivid
• 46:40
  conscious. I was there, felt it,
• 46:43
  experienced it all the way up and back, you know?
• 46:48
  LA Marzulli, he's been on a number of times over the years,
• 46:51
  but I remember he shared a vision.
• 46:54
  He said it was a three second vision that happened to him
• 46:57
  early on in his walk. And he's like in his 70s now in
• 47:01
  a lot of ways. He says he's just getting
• 47:03
  started, which I giggle at, but I'm also like, yeah, yeah,
• 47:06
  that's about right, isn't it? But it, you know, I think this
• 47:09
  is, man, this has got to be going back like 250 episodes.
• 47:12
  But he shares this vision. He says second one, he's on a
• 47:17
  White Horse. 2nd 2, there's stacked white horses all around
• 47:24
  him and he's, he's observing all these other riders on white
• 47:28
  horses. Second three, he says he sees
• 47:31
  the tip of the spear, The Lord guiding heaven's armies, you
• 47:38
  know, and I remember when he shared that with me, how
• 47:41
  significant that was because he's like Rodney.
• 47:43
  I was there for three seconds and then boom, right back in my
• 47:50
  body. He's like, the Lord showed me
• 47:52
  something that didn't physically, experientially come
• 47:55
  to pass yet. So what you're saying just rings
• 47:59
  that bell. I just had to bring that up for
• 48:01
  listener's sake. And in the details of show
• 48:02
  notes. I'll try to put a link to that
• 48:04
  LA Marzoli episode that I just referenced in talking about that
• 48:07
  vision, because this stuff is real.
• 48:11
  I don't really need to convince my audience, but we have a
• 48:15
  growing listener base and there's there's skeptics that
• 48:17
  are out there. There's a re enchantment taking
• 48:20
  place, Matt, where people are starting to go be, I think
• 48:24
  because of many forerunners, right, But people are starting
• 48:27
  to go. Oh, the Bible has commentary on
• 48:28
  that. So time travel's not outside of
• 48:31
  the question. Like, no, not at all.
• 48:32
  Like portals. Oh yeah, they're all over the
• 48:35
  place. Angels.
• 48:36
  They're not fat little babies with wings.
• 48:38
  That was episode 1. No, they're not right.
• 48:41
  And so like when we when we get this, these anecdotal
• 48:44
  testimonies, it increases, it encourages me personally, which
• 48:50
  this is a growth podcast, a journey podcast.
• 48:52
  But then there's hundreds and thousands of other people out
• 48:55
  there just like me and you, Matt, that are like, I needed to
• 48:59
  hear that this week. Just passing it back to you
• 49:02
  commentary, wherever you would like to go from this point.
• 49:07
  Yeah, let's do that. Yeah, so, you know, when it
• 49:10
  comes to these types of things, you know, one of the things that
• 49:13
  we we have to remember, right, like these gifts, these
• 49:16
  experiences all are to glorify Jesus, right?
• 49:18
  And, and, and to to edify the body of Christ.
• 49:21
  So when we experience these things, you know, obviously
• 49:24
  we're let them by the spirit of when we share and who we talk to
• 49:27
  them about and you know, things like this.
• 49:29
  And ultimately, you know, it's all meant to prepare us, right?
• 49:33
  Like he's the, he's the king of King, he's the Lord of Lords.
• 49:36
  He is our, he is our leader. And ultimately, you know, we're
• 49:39
  taking orders from him. It's not to glorify us in any
• 49:42
  means. You know, so I wanted to say
• 49:44
  that out loud. Like this isn't anything about
• 49:46
  me or anything like that. I just, I feel like the call of
• 49:49
  the hour is Jesus is coming back and we need to get ready for his
• 49:53
  return. And it's all about him And it's
• 49:56
  all about sharing the gospel in whatever way that, that we can
• 49:59
  to, to, to bring people to him. Obviously, you know, he has to
• 50:03
  go ahead of us to do that, but I wanted to, I wanted to make sure
• 50:06
  that was said. And that's the focal point
• 50:09
  because, you know, all these things, they're, they're fun,
• 50:12
  they're cool, they're a gift, but ultimately they have a
• 50:16
  purpose. And that's to glorify Jesus and
• 50:19
  to and to, you know, obviously edify the body of Christ.
• 50:23
  And was, I mean, it's him working in and through us to
• 50:26
  cause his will to come about. That's the ripple effect, man.
• 50:32
  You know, Matt, what are you guys working on?
• 50:35
  Don't you don't have to, you know, share exact locations.
• 50:40
  Maybe for safety reasons we shouldn't right?
• 50:42
  Talk about maybe the town or city that you're doing certain
• 50:47
  things. But I think that God will filter
• 50:50
  the correct people through and open the floodgate in a future
• 50:54
  date here for people to get together in person.
• 50:59
  But that stage is still being developed some bit.
• 51:01
  But I do want you to talk a bit about what you're a part of.
• 51:03
  You guys have a unique thing going on about an hour and a
• 51:07
  half north of me. Do you feel led to talk about
• 51:10
  that? Yeah, so, you know, we have, we
• 51:14
  have a home church, it's growing.
• 51:16
  You know, we, one of the, one of the families we've, we've been
• 51:20
  working on their barn for the last, you know, year plus.
• 51:24
  And you know, they, they are leading in every week home
• 51:27
  church there. And then, you know, we have
• 51:28
  several families that are, that are a little bit further away
• 51:31
  and we're, we're doing a, a thing that kind of starting and
• 51:33
  growing here. And I think that's biblical,
• 51:36
  right? When, when you, you're starting
• 51:38
  to grow together. And I think that's the model,
• 51:40
  right? You start with two or three
• 51:41
  families, you grow together and then you're venturing out so
• 51:45
  that you can disciple others, right?
• 51:47
  And you're growing and then just kind of this, this model and
• 51:50
  it's exponential to grow and disciple people.
• 51:52
  And I think that's what God has been doing.
• 51:55
  We also have men's and women's ministry.
• 51:57
  We meet every two weeks that, you know, numbers don't matter,
• 52:01
  but you know, there's, there's, there's quite a few guys that
• 52:03
  come, you know, and, and the women, you know, they started
• 52:06
  later. They're a little bit smaller,
• 52:07
  but they're growing too. And, you know, it's, it's all
• 52:10
  about, you know, preparing the body of Christ, right, like
• 52:14
  raising the men up to, to be the soldiers in God's army and, you
• 52:19
  know, shed off the things in this world.
• 52:21
  They know teach about spiritual warfare and the things that that
• 52:25
  the enemy is doing in their lives and, and you know, point
• 52:28
  them to, to where Christ can set them free and the plans and
• 52:31
  purposes that he has for them. People are hungry like they're
• 52:35
  looking for truth. You know, I think this, this
• 52:38
  great awakening that we're seeing of, of, you know, I think
• 52:41
  I shared with you before, but one of the words the Lord gave
• 52:44
  me several years ago, he it's very simple.
• 52:46
  He said the veil of deception is being removed, You know, and,
• 52:49
  and when you think about the amount of deception that that we
• 52:54
  have and still probably have, right, because God's removing it
• 52:57
  one step at a time. And, and so we can learn and
• 53:00
  understand what it was and how it got there.
• 53:02
  You know, that amount of deception is rampant and people
• 53:06
  are hungry to, to find the truth.
• 53:08
  And they're, they're, they're open, you know, their hearts are
• 53:11
  ready, you know, to, to, to hear truth, hear things, be
• 53:15
  challenged to those things that they always believed in.
• 53:18
  You know, I think when you get your when you're ready to take
• 53:20
  that step, like God's going to open up so much to your eyes
• 53:24
  that you're going to see it. You're never going to look at
• 53:26
  the world same. Yeah, wow, couldn't highlight
• 53:33
  that better that that all of this is working in unison for us
• 53:37
  to activate the body in a deeper way.
• 53:40
  And the deception thing is fascinating too, because I've
• 53:44
  been saying for years that the veil's thinning, right?
• 53:47
  The Scripture always comes to mind that when the enemy comes
• 53:50
  in like a flood, God will raise up a standard against him.
• 53:53
  And we know what was happening with the prophetic voices in the
• 53:55
  Old Testament, right? The prophets eating, it's early
• 53:58
  in the morning and one of his companions is freaking out,
• 54:01
  saying, oh man, these armies are surrounding us.
• 54:03
  And he's just like, all right, God open up his eyes and show
• 54:07
  him what's really happening in the eternal realm, right?
• 54:11
  Not the temporal kind of changing, fluctuating realm.
• 54:15
  And so that that's happening because the same Spirit that was
• 54:19
  in the men of old, you know, there's one Spirit, 1 truth and
• 54:24
  one baptism, but a diversity of gifts.
• 54:27
  And so we're seeing the same Spirit working.
• 54:30
  Listen, I don't need to prove it to anybody.
• 54:32
  I don't need to argue that God is real or that he's doing this
• 54:36
  and that the signs will follow and God is positioning and
• 54:40
  stretching and fiery trials. Man, you know, I was just in
• 54:46
  Peter. And it's like, you know, think
• 54:48
  it not strange, beloved, as if though something weird has
• 54:52
  happened to your life. Paraphrasing here, but that the
• 54:54
  testing of your faith is to produce patience and patience,
• 54:57
  long-suffering and long-suffering to be steadfast,
• 55:00
  right? And and I'm not quoting it.
• 55:02
  I'm just, I'm just trying to remember it.
• 55:04
  So forgive me if I got a little bit of that verse wrong.
• 55:06
  But that is happening like in the most peculiar places because
• 55:12
  years ago, Matt, people were not having these kind of campfire
• 55:17
  conversations in the town square, in the public place.
• 55:20
  And that's kind of like one of the ideas behind the MMS was why
• 55:26
  are we sugar coating it? Like I am completely perplexed
• 55:30
  when people fake it. I don't put a different hat on
• 55:32
  because it's Monday and I got a right go to a business meeting
• 55:35
  or go try to, you know, get this job in the construction world.
• 55:39
  I'm the same rod there. Like if it comes up, if it's
• 55:42
  supernatural, like I'm a magnet for it.
• 55:44
  Normally when I'm out in public, people will just come to me.
• 55:47
  And and for some reason we always get to this point where
• 55:50
  the gospel is being preached with no restriction of worldview
• 55:54
  or denominational preferences. It fits perfectly in with what
• 55:58
  they're experiencing. You know, whatever the diversity
• 56:00
  individuals I've talked with from supernatural experiences to
• 56:03
  just curiosity in general. But these conversations are now
• 56:08
  taking place in the government space, in Congress,
• 56:12
  congressional meetings, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens are all
• 56:17
  talking about Nephilim within the same week.
• 56:20
  Like that's not planned. Like, come on man, that's a
• 56:23
  psyop. If you don't think that the
• 56:25
  powers that be are not infiltrating the popularity,
• 56:28
  those who the world has accepted and loved to be able to slightly
• 56:33
  alter the worldview, the reality of what truth that is because
• 56:39
  yeah, Nephilim are real. The Bible says it.
• 56:41
  I'm not here to argue with anybody about that.
• 56:44
  I do not take a satellite view. I do take an angelic view of
• 56:47
  Genesis 64 and I think the predecessor to that, Gary
• 56:50
  Stearman and LA Marzulli, shout out to them for kind of beating
• 56:53
  this idea in years ago. It was the seed war first
• 56:58
  prophesied by God in Genesis 3315.
• 57:01
  And so, but the, the world is now having a strange
• 57:05
  conversation in the public, but this is not a conversation that
• 57:10
  hasn't been taking place privately.
• 57:12
  I called the campfire conversation right when I was
• 57:15
  growing up in the Philadelphia area, man, we were seeing all
• 57:18
  types of stuff, man, you know, the conversation of lights in
• 57:21
  the sky and astral travel and the silver cord.
• 57:25
  Like all that stuff was being talked about when I was growing
• 57:27
  up in the 90s, you know, And I, I now see the conversation
• 57:33
  taking place from the witchcraft perspective, from the government
• 57:36
  perspective, from the religious perspective.
• 57:39
  And then it's like, where are the sons of God at who know how
• 57:43
  to rightfully divide the word? That's where we stepped in.
• 57:46
  Any comments on any of that? Yeah, you know that last part?
• 57:50
  You know, when you talk about witchcraft, you know, people
• 57:54
  don't, don't realize how much witchcraft is, is intertwined
• 57:58
  in, in, in, in everything. And you know, and I'll, I'll,
• 58:01
  I'll try to best quote Derek Prince when he, he talked about
• 58:05
  witchcraft. You know, anytime you try to
• 58:07
  control, manipulate or do anything to somebody, you're
• 58:11
  operating in witchcraft. So any type of thing that is
• 58:14
  doing that, you know, witchcraft is, is, is, is prevalent, you
• 58:18
  know, and, and you know it when I heard that, like it really
• 58:23
  kind of like opened my eyes to like how we behave ourselves
• 58:27
  with others, what we say it matters, right, when we curse or
• 58:30
  bless and we in the way we speak, you know, and you know,
• 58:34
  I've run into a lot of witchcraft and doing these
• 58:36
  things that we've talked about. And you know, one of the things
• 58:41
  that I've learned with it, you know, when you start to do these
• 58:44
  things, obviously you're stirring up a hornet's nest.
• 58:46
  So one, be led by the spirit, right?
• 58:49
  You don't want to go off and and start fights that God didn't
• 58:51
  call you to, right? And, and two, you know, when,
• 58:55
  when you're in it, you need to be watching, right?
• 58:57
  You know, one of the words the Lord said to me was Watchmen,
• 59:00
  what of the night, right? What what is going on?
• 59:02
  Right? So, you know, I've learned these
• 59:05
  witchcraft attacks when, when something starts to falter,
• 59:08
  break it home. You know, you, it took the
• 59:11
  second or third thing breaking before I realized that, you
• 59:13
  know, I've got a curse over me because, because I, I, I made
• 59:16
  somebody mad, some spirit mad because I was doing something
• 59:19
  God called me to. But, you know, then I would pray
• 59:22
  and break it and then things would stop breaking, right?
• 59:24
  Sometimes they would even start working again, like depending on
• 59:28
  what it was and how God was moving.
• 59:30
  But I think just our awareness of, of, of that aspect and you
• 59:35
  know, as Christians is growing, you know, I think even with the,
• 59:39
  the Charlie Kirk stuff, you heard someone come out and they
• 59:42
  were talking about Jezebel and that and how this witchcraft had
• 59:44
  had, you know, done something with related to Jezebel.
• 59:47
  I don't remember all the details, but that was in the
• 59:49
  news like they were talking about that.
• 59:51
  So, you know, it's just, it's interesting that that, you know,
• 59:56
  the devil was being exposed. Like it's coming out.
• 59:58
  You know, I, it made me think of a vision I had.
• 1:00:01
  I think I shared with you. This was on September 3rd of
• 1:00:06
  2023 where a similar experience to the To the Rapture 11 where I
• 1:00:11
  woke up. You know, felt tingling the Holy
• 1:00:13
  Spirit all over, and then actually floated out of my body,
• 1:00:16
  like floated up through the ceiling, floated up into the
• 1:00:19
  sky, into the clouds. And as I was coming up in the
• 1:00:21
  clouds, I saw the face of Jesus in the cloud and then it
• 1:00:25
  dispersed. And I saw Revelation 12/7.
• 1:00:28
  I saw the, the, the, the, the, you know, the dragon raging in
• 1:00:33
  heaven. Like there was a huge dragon and
• 1:00:35
  it was raging, you know, and, and I watched it for about 30
• 1:00:39
  seconds and then floated back down and went right back in my
• 1:00:42
  body and went to sleep. And, you know, the date again
• 1:00:45
  was significant on September 3rd of that year.
• 1:00:49
  You know, it was actually on the Jewish calendar.
• 1:00:52
  Was the anniversary the start of World War 2 And it was, it was
• 1:00:55
  God showing not only the the hey, this, this raging battle is
• 1:01:01
  happening, but it's also significant that it's starting
• 1:01:05
  this, this season of of warfare, right?
• 1:01:08
  Like you're, you're seeing it, it's, it's getting exposed.
• 1:01:11
  It's, it's out there. Like I think we're all feeling
• 1:01:13
  the the attacks that that more so than we have in the past, at
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  least for for me. And the other thing, you know,
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  that I that I was interesting is I had another dream.
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  It's similar that it was the I think I shared this one with you
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  too, about I was in the ocean in my dream and there was this big
• 1:01:29
  sea monster and like it was like trying to like suck me in or
• 1:01:35
  blow me in like back and forth. But there was this hand that had
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  a hold of me and prevented me from getting sucked in.
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  And it's the verse from Revelation where he, like, I
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  think he spews water out after, after the, after the, the people
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  that I can't remember the exact scripture, but it was both
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  showing Satan moving to, to try to come at these sayings that at
• 1:01:54
  a higher level than than than we've seen.
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  And it's because the, the exposing we're moving closer to
• 1:02:00
  that time of his return. The enemy knows it.
• 1:02:02
  So it's, you know, not trying to hide anymore.
• 1:02:05
  It's coming out in the open and trying to move in a more
• 1:02:07
  aggressive manner. And I think that, you know, it's
• 1:02:10
  a, it's a, it's an awesome time to live, man.
• 1:02:13
  Like it's an awesome time to, to be a St. to be in this season
• 1:02:17
  of, of his return and getting to, to be a part of it.
• 1:02:20
  It's not going to be easy. There's going to be a lot of,
• 1:02:23
  you know, trials and, and, you know, maybe even martyrdom.
• 1:02:26
  I think, you know, Charlie was probably the start of that, you
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  know, in the United States. But I think it's just it's, it's
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  just a cool time to live. Yeah, man, that's so
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  significant. You know, when you're saying
• 1:02:38
  that about getting, you know, pulled up into the heavens
• 1:02:42
  again, it just makes me think like, this is how God is the
• 1:02:47
  apostle Paul, right? So we got Yahweh, the spirit
• 1:02:51
  moving through Paul and he says, I knew a man, whether in the
• 1:02:54
  body or out of the body, I do not know.
• 1:02:57
  And so why would we write? Because he, and then you got
• 1:03:02
  John on the island of Patmos writing the Book of Revelation.
• 1:03:06
  They couldn't boil him to death. I mean, I feel like the enemy's
• 1:03:09
  tried to kill me 100 times, man. Like, you know, like I'm the
• 1:03:12
  millennial mustard seed, right? This is a tree growing from a
• 1:03:16
  seed of faith and the enemy tried to use a tree to Take Me
• 1:03:19
  Out a week and a half ago, Crushed my car, messed the house
• 1:03:22
  up, messed up all everything's all, you know, Like it's it's
• 1:03:26
  this is real. But why would someone have the
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  audacity to put God in a box and think that there's not men and
• 1:03:35
  women that he is not yanking up out of their bodies to show them
• 1:03:39
  through a glass dimly lit or to confirm things through them?
• 1:03:43
  Why does the body have the audacity to question that?
• 1:03:47
  Because if it be from the Lord, let it stand right, Every man be
• 1:03:51
  a liar, but the Lord be true. And if the Lord is working in
• 1:03:55
  and through us, then what's being produced by the Lord will
• 1:03:59
  produce truth and it'll produce evidence and it will produce
• 1:04:03
  confirmations. This is the fruits are well, one
• 1:04:06
  of the fruits of the Spirit. You know it's the fruit.
• 1:04:10
  Of the Spirit. Not the fruit of Rod and not the
• 1:04:13
  fruit of Matt, my fruit not so good.
• 1:04:17
  His fruit amazing. But you know, this stuff is is
• 1:04:21
  happening. So as I've been hearing this
• 1:04:23
  over the years, man, it takes because I had a supernatural
• 1:04:26
  life all of my life, right like when I was seven years old.
• 1:04:29
  I'm playing with my Batman toy sitting, you know, on the floor
• 1:04:32
  of my aunt Connie. She was like the only Christian
• 1:04:34
  in our family at the time. My dad's sister on curly cord on
• 1:04:39
  the phone. You know, this is just back in
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  like, what if I'm seven years old?
• 1:04:43
  This is back in like ninety, 9596, right?
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  She's preaching the gospel, talking about this God who wipes
• 1:04:51
  away every tear and God of love and light.
• 1:04:54
  And in that moment in my young mind, I said, I'll serve a God
• 1:04:58
  if a God like that's real, I'll serve him someday.
• 1:05:01
  And when I was seven, I was Tran.
• 1:05:03
  I don't remember moving Matt, but I ended up up in the corner
• 1:05:08
  of the room looking down at my young 7 year old self with this
• 1:05:12
  Batman tool. And I don't remember going
• 1:05:16
  there. I don't remember coming back.
• 1:05:18
  But it when I was there up in the corner of the room, I was
• 1:05:21
  engulfed in light, engulfed in light, man, It was it was like I
• 1:05:25
  could never leave. It was so, but I didn't you
• 1:05:28
  know, nothing was said to me. I didn't hear any voices.
• 1:05:30
  And I've talked about this on and off over the years, but it's
• 1:05:33
  triggering me like, so is this why God targets individuals?
• 1:05:39
  Because the enemy's watching, right?
• 1:05:41
  There's a great cloud of witness from the kingdom's sake in the
• 1:05:44
  in the heavenly, but there's also, you know, watching
• 1:05:48
  demoniac and foul spirits and familiar spirits.
• 1:05:51
  So maybe this is the resistance that all of us have been
• 1:05:55
  feeling. It's not just me and you.
• 1:05:58
  I talked with a lot of other shows that have major
• 1:06:01
  interactions with their audience, right?
• 1:06:04
  And that the message keeps coming through, man, the trees
• 1:06:07
  being shaken, right? The, the faith is being shaken.
• 1:06:10
  You know they're right here. Hebrews.
• 1:06:14
  Beloved, do not think it's strange concerning the fiery
• 1:06:17
  trial which is to try you as if though some strange thing
• 1:06:21
  happened to you, but rejoice to the extent that you are a
• 1:06:26
  partaker in Christ suffering that when His glory is revealed,
• 1:06:30
  you may also be glad with exceeding joy.
• 1:06:33
  And so many of us, some of us and even myself, man, my own
• 1:06:37
  stupidity, my own disobedience, my own sin has caused problems
• 1:06:41
  in my life. But sometimes it's literally
• 1:06:44
  like, oh man, I'm repenting of that.
• 1:06:46
  I don't know why I thought that. I don't know why I did that.
• 1:06:48
  I'm shifting out of that. That's not my identity.
• 1:06:51
  I, I went to do something good and I ended up doing the thing
• 1:06:54
  which I hate and despise. Does that ring a bell for
• 1:06:57
  anybody out there? Somebody wrote something very
• 1:06:59
  profound about that in the New Testament.
• 1:07:02
  And, you know, but we're in Christ.
• 1:07:04
  There's no condemnation to us. So the enemy is just chomping at
• 1:07:07
  the bit like man, I want to destroy him.
• 1:07:09
  I can't believe God is going to use him.
• 1:07:11
  I can't believe God forgave him because they're not forgiven.
• 1:07:15
  The wicked and dark ones. God came for man and paid with
• 1:07:19
  blood and rose from death. And so this is a warfare that
• 1:07:23
  we're in. We're in a battlefield that's
• 1:07:25
  unlike anything Tolkien could ever write about.
• 1:07:28
  Or CS Lewis, they don't even come close to the reality.
• 1:07:32
  And all of it matters that your story matters.
• 1:07:37
  And I know it's reached that this Part 1, this, you know,
• 1:07:40
  this is a foundational episode, learning a little bit about you.
• 1:07:43
  What do you experience? Where'd you come from?
• 1:07:44
  What do you do? And I believe God is going to
• 1:07:47
  continue to use you moving forward in more ways than just
• 1:07:51
  here. And, you know, you guys got the
• 1:07:53
  barn, barn dominium up there where you're meeting and doing,
• 1:07:57
  you know, men's studies and you got some animals up there so the
• 1:08:01
  kids can see the animals and run around and play.
• 1:08:03
  Now the women are meeting in the house.
• 1:08:05
  Churches are popping off all around Pennsylvania, these kind
• 1:08:08
  of little humble gatherings that I believe God is just smiling on
• 1:08:12
  it because it's all organic and authentic, all meanwhile the war
• 1:08:17
  is raging around us all. Meanwhile that the enemy is
• 1:08:21
  systematically trying to desensitize you, trying to
• 1:08:24
  create the gaslighting features of amnesia, right?
• 1:08:29
  Getting you to spiritually decay so you don't see the truth of
• 1:08:33
  the matter. And I feel like I'm just getting
• 1:08:36
  started, you know, this many years into it.
• 1:08:39
  I feel like I'm just starting to really get in position and wake
• 1:08:41
  up and realize, my God, you called me to be more than just
• 1:08:46
  an online podcast Christian influencer.
• 1:08:48
  You know what I mean? Like, yes, I wrote a book.
• 1:08:50
  Yes, we do music. Yes, we we've traveled around
• 1:08:53
  and done events and stuff. But I believe something so much
• 1:08:56
  more than that. And I believe you're going to
• 1:08:59
  play a part in it, man. Appreciate it.
• 1:09:02
  You know, one of the things I was thinking about too, you
• 1:09:04
  know, with with this generation, you know, I was thinking of
• 1:09:07
  Malachi 4-5 and six, you know, and it and it says, you know,
• 1:09:10
  behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of
• 1:09:13
  the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
• 1:09:15
  And I believe that we're in that Elijah generation and he will
• 1:09:18
  turn the hearts of the fathers to the children in the hearts of
• 1:09:20
  the children to their fathers, right.
• 1:09:23
  And in the end of that, lest I come strike the earth with a
• 1:09:25
  curse. I think we're seeing that
• 1:09:27
  restoration of family, the family unit as well.
• 1:09:31
  You know, we're seeing, you know, you know, even my own
• 1:09:34
  personal testimony, just healing of things from my childhood to,
• 1:09:38
  to, to bring about like even my father and I closer together.
• 1:09:41
  You know, I've seen it in other people were, you know, there's,
• 1:09:44
  there's, there's this gift of like forgiveness, you know,
• 1:09:47
  where people that were struggling to forgive are now
• 1:09:49
  able to because God soften their heart.
• 1:09:51
  And you're seeing this restoration, you know, long lost
• 1:09:55
  kids and parents that aren't talking to each other coming
• 1:09:58
  back and, and, and, and redeveloping relationships.
• 1:10:00
  And, you know, I just really think, you know, that is part of
• 1:10:04
  preparing the bride, right? Like we have to get ready, but
• 1:10:07
  you know, the family unit is central to that, right?
• 1:10:10
  So why wouldn't he do that as well in preparation for for his
• 1:10:14
  return? So just something that struck me
• 1:10:17
  that I felt was important to say too, because I feel like, you
• 1:10:20
  know, when we start talking about the battle and everything
• 1:10:22
  going on, but there's this hope, right?
• 1:10:24
  It's not only did we get to go be with the Lord, but there's
• 1:10:26
  there's some restoration that's going to happen.
• 1:10:29
  You know, when you think about the his coming, they know it's
• 1:10:32
  the harvest, both the wheat and the tares, right?
• 1:10:34
  They grow together. So there's, there's awesome
• 1:10:36
  things happening and there's bad things happening at the same
• 1:10:39
  time. You know, people kind of think
• 1:10:40
  it's one or the other, but it's, it's, it's going to happen
• 1:10:43
  together. And I think as, as Christians,
• 1:10:45
  we're going to see a lot of cool things happen in these last days
• 1:10:49
  where the Spirit is going to be moving mightily, not only in
• 1:10:52
  miracles and wonders, but on people's hearts and, and, and
• 1:10:55
  healing these soul wounds that they have as well.
• 1:10:59
  Man, that is that that is one of the most important things.
• 1:11:03
  Like knowing all this other stuff is cool.
• 1:11:06
  But if learning about the Nephilim and learning about
• 1:11:09
  warfare and spiritual mapping and you know, all this different
• 1:11:12
  armchair research and reading all the books, whether it's
• 1:11:15
  Derek Prince or this guy or that guy.
• 1:11:17
  If it's not bringing us closer to the revelation of who God is
• 1:11:21
  and his love starting to flow through US and to redeem those
• 1:11:27
  those broken memories and that that traumatic past that we all
• 1:11:31
  have. That's one of my first song was,
• 1:11:33
  you know, petitioning God with trauma.
• 1:11:36
  I named it trauma cycles, identifying the the cyclical
• 1:11:40
  nature of trauma replaying in our minds, in our actions, in
• 1:11:45
  society, in the fear tactics. And literally this is where the
• 1:11:49
  Bible says that he gives us a peace that surpasses the world's
• 1:11:52
  understanding because the world doesn't get it that I'm not
• 1:11:55
  trying to get the world to understand this.
• 1:11:57
  We're only looking for who belongs to the Father, whatever
• 1:12:01
  that means or look like, looks like to you, to the Father.
• 1:12:04
  He said he loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son
• 1:12:07
  that whoever would believe would be saved and not perished.
• 1:12:11
  So that's what it's about. Greater things that we're
• 1:12:16
  supposed to do does not just mean working with the earth and
• 1:12:20
  the trees and the rocks and the streams for them to bring us
• 1:12:23
  favor and work with us, maybe to open up and swallow our enemies.
• 1:12:27
  It just as much means working in faith and impatience and in love
• 1:12:33
  and gentleness. Is your gentleness made known?
• 1:12:36
  I don't know if everybody I've ever met can say that about me,
• 1:12:39
  and I'm not. I'm not happy to say that.
• 1:12:42
  But we got to give ourselves some grace.
• 1:12:44
  We have to look at this through a spiritual lens.
• 1:12:48
  And Matt, that's what you're offering every time you get the
• 1:12:50
  microphone, you're just reiterating the the spiritual
• 1:12:54
  lens about it. And that's what the body is
• 1:12:56
  being called to. You know, don't hurt the oil and
• 1:13:00
  the wine it talks about. Well, what's the oil and the
• 1:13:03
  wine? You ever think if that's the
• 1:13:05
  Spirit and the blood, if we overcome by the blood of the
• 1:13:08
  Lamb and the word of our testimony, the blood gives us
• 1:13:12
  access to the word of our testimony to be present because
• 1:13:15
  we're testifying on behalf of our redemption.
• 1:13:18
  We're sons. We've been grafted in.
• 1:13:21
  And then the oil, the Spirit, the one who resists, I think
• 1:13:26
  he's the one who's resisting until he resists no more.
• 1:13:30
  We'll kind of wind down here a little bit.
• 1:13:32
  I'm going to read a piece of scripture and then pass it back
• 1:13:34
  to you for just a word of encouragement for this Part 1.
• 1:13:39
  The Lord is righteous in all of His ways, gracious in all of His
• 1:13:44
  works. The Lord is near to all who call
• 1:13:47
  upon Him. He will fulfill the desires of
• 1:13:54
  those who fear Him. He also will hear their cry, and
• 1:13:59
  He'll save them. The Lord preserves all who love
• 1:14:05
  Him, but all the wicked he will destroy.
• 1:14:11
  Yet my mouth shall speak the praise of the Lord, and all
• 1:14:15
  flesh shall bless His holy name forever and ever.
• 1:14:21
  Psalms 14517 through 21. Matt, give us a word of
• 1:14:26
  encouragement. Yeah, man, this, this has been a
• 1:14:30
  great part. Yeah, you know, I, I think when
• 1:14:34
  it comes down to it, you know, where is our focus?
• 1:14:37
  Like are we focusing on, on Jesus or we focusing on our, our
• 1:14:41
  problems in the world? So my encouragement is look up,
• 1:14:47
  you know, our redemption draws nigh and we, we just have to ask
• 1:14:53
  our father and not allow the, the condemnation of the enemy
• 1:14:58
  to, to, to have a spin cycle of being in the mud and the muck,
• 1:15:02
  right. So I, I just encourage you to,
• 1:15:04
  to let go of your past. You know, the Bible tells us to
• 1:15:08
  live in the present, you know, not focus on the past.
• 1:15:11
  You know, we think of Lot's wife who looked at the past.
• 1:15:14
  You know, there's, there's a, there's a spirit behind that.
• 1:15:17
  I feel like that's needs to be talked about.
• 1:15:19
  Then when the, I don't remember which chapter is, but there's a
• 1:15:22
  spirit of legion that it was a man who walked among the graves.
• 1:15:26
  And one of the things the Lord revealed to me is that spirit.
• 1:15:29
  Now it was a lot of them, right? But that spirit gets you to
• 1:15:32
  focus on your past. And I just feel if there's
• 1:15:34
  someone out there that is struggling to let go of their
• 1:15:37
  past, I would love to just pray over right now that against the
• 1:15:42
  spirit of if, if you're OK with that Rod, I just feel like
• 1:15:45
  there's people out there that are the enemy's got them focused
• 1:15:48
  on their past. And right now, guys and gals,
• 1:15:52
  you know, if you're, if you're willing, I just ask that you
• 1:15:54
  will repent of, of, of giving in to the enemy's tactics to, to
• 1:15:58
  focus on those things of your past and that you just give it
• 1:16:02
  to Jesus right now and right now in the name of Jesus Christ,
• 1:16:06
  every spirit of legion, every spirit of rejection that people
• 1:16:10
  are feeling and being afflicted for by right now, Lord, we bind
• 1:16:14
  them in the name of Jesus Christ.
• 1:16:16
  We cast them out in Jesus name and I just pray right now for
• 1:16:20
  everyone that that is listening to this podcast that they would
• 1:16:24
  feel the presence of your Holy Spirit that it would fill them,
• 1:16:27
  Lord, that it would vacate everything that the the enemy
• 1:16:30
  has left and that you would fill those voids.
• 1:16:32
  Lord, that you would bring healing.
• 1:16:34
  Lord that that every soul wound that they have of their past
• 1:16:38
  would be healed in the name of Jesus Christ.
• 1:16:41
  And I just pray that that you would bless the people that that
• 1:16:44
  have listened to this Lord and that anything that is of you
• 1:16:48
  would would be remembered and anything of the flesh that that
• 1:16:51
  is wrong would not be remembered.
• 1:16:52
  Lord ultimately would glorify you.
• 1:16:55
  We just thank you and praise you in Jesus name.
• 1:17:00
  Matt, you definitely have a knack for strengthening that
• 1:17:04
  which remains, buddy. Thank you.
• 1:17:08
  Listen, you know, until next time, you know, God is doing
• 1:17:12
  doing stuff behind the scenes and and Matt's life and I think
• 1:17:16
  you guys are going to hear more from him here and possibly other
• 1:17:20
  places in the future. And so you know, like this
• 1:17:23
  episode, share it, share it far and wide.
• 1:17:25
  Share it with your, you know, your radical spirit filled buddy
• 1:17:30
  who needs to hear it. Share it with your struggling
• 1:17:34
  een adolescent, your non believing uncle, whoever that
• 1:17:37
  may be. Share it far and wide.
• 1:17:39
  That's how you help us beat the algorithm and that's how you
• 1:17:41
  help us meet one more person that's just like me and you
• 1:17:45
  listener coming to you from Southeastern Pennsylvania.
• 1:17:49
  God bless and goodbye. Calling you, I'm still trying to
• 1:18:13
  let go. Jesus, I'm calling you.
• 1:18:16
  I feel guilty, but I'm still trying.
• 1:18:18
  I'm still trying to let go. I feel shackled, but I'm.
• 1:18:24
  I'm shackled you. I'm unworthy.
• 1:18:29
  I'm calling you. I'm still trying to let I feel
• 1:18:33
  guilty, but I know that guilt's not from you.
• 1:18:37
  I feel guilty. I'm calling.
• 1:18:41
  I feel guilty. I'm calling.
• 1:18:43
  I'm calling you. I'm calling you.
• 1:18:50
  I've been a friend of many strangers, a stranger to many
• 1:18:52
  friends. I always handle all the dangers,
• 1:18:55
  always make amends. I hear the prophetic release.
• 1:18:57
  Can you detect I'm recognizing to walk in my brokenness, to be
• 1:19:01
  perfected. It's the sacred dance of life
• 1:19:04
  and death. The powers in your tongue suffer
• 1:19:07
  right? The rest I mumble, the grumble,
• 1:19:09
  a true prayer from my spirit. I walk with the broken and
• 1:19:13
  neglected. I walked away from the only ones
• 1:19:15
  I love and not going to feel the pain.
• 1:19:18
  Always the spot or the detective.
• 1:19:20
  I always cry when pushed from the shove.
• 1:19:22
  Can you check it? I've sat with the old and the
• 1:19:24
  barrack. I've danced with the young and
• 1:19:26
  wild. Since there's nothing left, I
• 1:19:28
  feast it with the starving master.
• 1:19:30
  I've starved in the presence of kings.
• 1:19:32
  And I always defend the class I feel.
• 1:19:34
  Guilty. But I'm still trying.
• 1:19:35
  I'm still trying to let it go. Shackle.
• 1:19:40
  But I'm. I'm shackled.
• 1:19:42
  You show all. I'm unworthy.
• 1:19:46
  I'm calling. I'm still trying to let go.
• 1:19:50
  I feel guilty. But I know that guilt's not from
• 1:19:54
  you. Oh, I feel guilty.
• 1:19:57
  I'm calling. I feel guilty.
• 1:20:00
  I'm calling. I'm calling you.
• 1:20:27
  I trust no one.