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Credlin | 10 April · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krendland live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Great to have your company. He's what's coming
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Speaker 2: up in the program tonight? Demeanor?
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Speaker 3: I recoon.
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Speaker 2: It's almost everything in a campaign. So are the rigors
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Speaker 2: of it all starting to get to the PM? Several
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Speaker 2: examples now of him losing his cool with journalists. More
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Speaker 2: on that with our Thursday campaign roundup. When former chief
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Speaker 2: of Staff Labour Chief of Stuff can Remelma joins me.
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Speaker 2: Here a slight reprieve today from the Trump tariffs. The
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Speaker 2: President announce see a ninety day pause. However not say
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Speaker 2: for China.
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Speaker 4: So what does this mean?
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Speaker 2: Given they are our biggest trading partner, and given all
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Speaker 2: the other countries too have signaled they want to negotiate,
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Speaker 2: why is our PM still sitting on his hands? Plus
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Speaker 2: Labour's was in Sydney's where seemed to have gone from
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Speaker 2: bad to worse Dewpolling Today show and Chris Bowen could.
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Speaker 4: Actually lose his seat.
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Speaker 2: Perhaps the butters of man are over his climate posturing
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Speaker 2: as much.
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Speaker 4: As we are.
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Speaker 2: And speaking of Chris bow and boy he was touching
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Speaker 2: today at the Press Club Energy Debate today with our
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Speaker 2: own Chris Yulman.
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Speaker 5: Electricity prices are rising, aren't they, Minister. That's written into
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Speaker 5: a level every electricity bill, isn't it.
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Speaker 1: Minister?
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Speaker 6: Well, thanks very much for the question, Chris.
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Speaker 7: I'm not exactly sure what your question is really in reality.
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Speaker 2: Whoa didn't he own Bowen today? I'll play you that
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Speaker 2: whole grab in just a moment. First, before pre polling
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Speaker 2: starts in just over a week's time, the limbs had
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Speaker 2: to start to get more policy out and finally that's
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Speaker 2: exactly what's been happening yesterday. Of course it was more
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Speaker 2: on gas, which is critical to getting our power prices down.
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Speaker 2: Today it was a policy for budget repair and that
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Speaker 2: comes on the back of confirmation that Peter Dutton will
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Speaker 2: get nets overseas migration right down to just one hundred
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Speaker 2: and sixty thousand a year at least until our housing
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Speaker 2: supply can catch up after Labour's disastrous Big Australia strategy.
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Speaker 8: And they're talking about one point eight million people coming
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Speaker 8: in over a five year period. Don't forget that that
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Speaker 8: is over a two year period a million people, which
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Speaker 8: is seventy percent more than at any two year period
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Speaker 8: in our country's history. And you wonder why we've got
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Speaker 8: a housing crisis now.
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Speaker 2: Back in that Howard era immigration averaged about one hundred
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Speaker 2: and ten thousand a year. Then it bumped up to
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Speaker 2: an average double basically to two hundred and twenty thousand
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Speaker 2: a year under Kevin Rudd, and since the pandemic under
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Speaker 2: Labour's Big Australia Agenda, it's been close to half a
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Speaker 2: million a year, even though that's putting downward pressure on wages,
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Speaker 2: upward pressure on housing costs, and of course massive pressure
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Speaker 2: on infrastructure. Sky high immigration is a Ponzi scheme for labor,
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Speaker 2: state and federal It allows reform shy governments to mask
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Speaker 2: their economic cowardice because it keeps up nominal growth, which
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Speaker 2: is the growth that's forecast in whole of nation terms,
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Speaker 2: but when you look at it in per capita terms,
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Speaker 2: per person terms, or those numbers expose the line. That's
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Speaker 2: why GDP per person has been a negative territory for
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Speaker 2: the past two years because not enough of our new
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Speaker 2: migrants have been highly skilled. Now it won't be easy
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Speaker 2: if and don't to get net migration down to one
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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty thousand a year because so much of
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Speaker 2: it has been driven by schools colleges and universities selling
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Speaker 2: residency in Australia dressed up as education and Dutton calling
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Speaker 2: them out on this is partly to explain why they're
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Speaker 2: so cranky about his plan business too, or they'd rather
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Speaker 2: import labor than train our own and pay Australians more.
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Speaker 2: But if anyone can do it, Darton can. Because if
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Speaker 2: you've got the guts to put your own personal safety
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Speaker 2: at risk, and he has because he deported those bikeys,
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Speaker 2: then you can get on top of these migration numbers.
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Speaker 2: What's required here as a leader with backbone, and unlike
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister who's known all over the world for
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Speaker 2: his weakness, Dutton is strong, not afraid to take the
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Speaker 2: tough decisions in our national interest. Also today in the
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Speaker 2: News as a reference, the Coalition will invest future revenue
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Speaker 2: wind falls in two new future funds, one to pay
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Speaker 2: down debt and the other to boost regional infrastructure. Now
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Speaker 2: this is the poll opposite to what Labour's been doing.
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Speaker 2: They've been blowing these temporary revenue wind falls from export
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Speaker 2: sales of resources on new and permanent extra spending. Here's
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Speaker 2: the PM earlier in the week claiming that the government
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Speaker 2: had delivered nearly one hundred billion dollars in savings.
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Speaker 9: Were provided were provided almost one hundred billion dollars of
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Speaker 9: savings ninety five to be precise, ninety five to be
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Speaker 9: we would have been way over that.
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Speaker 2: Well, in fact not true. There's been a near four
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Speaker 2: hundred billion dollar revenue windfall, largely due to better prices
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Speaker 2: for coal and gas. As I say, the very exports
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Speaker 2: at labor, and the Greens want us to stop exporting.
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Speaker 4: But because labor.
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Speaker 2: Only blew only three hundred billion of that windfall and
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Speaker 2: new spending, the PM reckons what's left is a one
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Speaker 2: hundred billion dollar saving.
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Speaker 4: Now, honestly this.
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Speaker 2: Is bs, but it's the kind of economic fantasy that
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Speaker 2: will keep getting from the government that's raised federal spending
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Speaker 2: to twenty seven percent of GDP, which is a peacetime record.
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Speaker 2: Last night in the Treasurer's debate, and really saw a
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Speaker 2: whole new side to Angus Taylor, And for those that
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Speaker 2: don't know his background, his intellect as a Rhodes scholar,
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Speaker 2: well that was on display, and all his years as
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Speaker 2: senior business and economic consultants was there to see.
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Speaker 10: Can I just start with some nonsense we've heard from
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Speaker 10: gin I mean he started from the point of view
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Speaker 10: of saying that there's been meaningful growth in the economy.
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Speaker 10: GDP per capita has gone backwards twenty five cents off
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Speaker 10: at the bowser and immediately for every Australia on guys
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Speaker 10: fuels to living buyers fuel at the bowser. And you
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Speaker 10: might dismiss that, you might think that's irrelevant, but let
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Speaker 10: me tell you.
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Speaker 11: You said you're going to increase in my part of
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Speaker 11: my part of the will.
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Speaker 10: Tax reducing fuel tax. That's his policy, is real, it's
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Speaker 10: relevant and it's immediate, unlike your seventy cents a day
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Speaker 10: and fifteen months time.
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Speaker 12: Will you look down the battle of the camera and
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Speaker 12: apologize for that, because is that something you should do,
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Speaker 12: because again that was a promise that.
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Speaker 3: Was not fulfilled.
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Speaker 11: I take responsibility for all of the decisions that we've
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Speaker 11: taken in our budget. So you willogize, including let me finish,
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Speaker 11: including the fact that energy prices energy bills last year
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Speaker 11: were three hundred dollars cheaper because of our energy rebates
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Speaker 11: that Angus didn't support.
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Speaker 4: You are under labour.
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Speaker 10: We've seen graceries go up by thirty percent, gas electricity
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Speaker 10: insurance all up by over thirty percent. Your home grown
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Speaker 10: inflation has had this impact. There is a better way, Jim.
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Speaker 2: Look, it was a masterclass and substance over spinners Taylor
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Speaker 2: and Ross Green. What I might add, finally called out
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Speaker 2: fig Jam Jim on his lack of detail with the
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Speaker 2: reason federal budget revealing the debt and deficit are now
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Speaker 2: stretching out as far as the eye can see and
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Speaker 2: about to hit the one trillion dollar mark for the
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Speaker 2: first time in a stratious history. It was way past
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Speaker 2: time for someone in this election to come up with
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Speaker 2: a debt and deficit reduction strategy. Now note that Darton
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Speaker 2: and a shadow treasurer and not proposing to cut spending,
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Speaker 2: just not to increase it every time there's a revenue windfall,
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Speaker 2: which is Labour's plan.
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Speaker 4: Now it's not quite the.
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Speaker 2: Revenue discipline that we saw in the Howard years when
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Speaker 2: portfolio ministers knew that they could not propose any new
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Speaker 2: spending without stumping up the stavings.
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Speaker 4: But at least it's a start.
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Speaker 2: Best of all, Taylor getting into a ring like he
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Speaker 2: did last night showed me this election is still anyone's
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Speaker 2: to win. And look on that score a little later
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Speaker 2: on the show, we'll catch up with Cameron Milner, Bill
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Speaker 2: Shorten's former chief of staff for a swing round the
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Speaker 2: key marginals, because what's becoming apparent even now is that
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Speaker 2: Labour's already given up on a raft of seats in
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Speaker 2: Victoria where they have polled resources all by conceding that
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Speaker 2: those seats are now lost to the Coalition and also
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Speaker 2: in trouble. It's confirmed in many reports today Energy Minister
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Speaker 2: Chris Bowen as he faces a huge fight to hang
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Speaker 2: onto his own seat despite that ten percent margin due
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Speaker 2: to a hard hitting Independent and that fallout from Muslim activists.
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Speaker 4: Bowen in trouble.
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Speaker 2: In his seat of McMahon, but also in his portfolio,
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Speaker 2: as we saw in another debate today, this time between
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Speaker 2: Bowen and Energy Coalition frontbencher Head O'Brien, who wiped the
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Speaker 2: floor with Bowen and expose the pack of cards that
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Speaker 2: Labour's hole in that zero agenda is built on. And
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Speaker 2: again there was a point blank refusal from Bowen, like Albourne,
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Speaker 2: Easy and Charmers this week to concede that power prices
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Speaker 2: have risen, let alone no attempt to apologize for lining
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Speaker 2: to voters before the last election about Labour's promise to
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Speaker 2: cut your power bill by two hundred and seventy five dollars.
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Speaker 4: But this was the moment.
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Speaker 2: Look at this exchange now here between Bowen and our
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Speaker 2: very own Chris Yulman.
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Speaker 5: Chris Bowen. In December twenty twenty one, you commissioned modeling
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Speaker 5: which showed and you pledged that you would drop power
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Speaker 5: prices by now by two hundred and seventy five dollars
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Speaker 5: for residential homes. You committed to it again in April
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Speaker 5: twenty twenty two, when you were told that modeling was flawed.
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Speaker 5: You continued to commit to it in twenty twenty three
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Speaker 5: and twenty twenty four, even though prices were rising. You
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Speaker 5: continue to be committed to it when you start subsidizing
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Speaker 5: power bills. And now this year, as subsidies now have
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Speaker 5: cracked through a new record and they're going through to
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Speaker 5: the end of the year, you're spending billions of dollars
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Speaker 5: on that. You are now claiming that electricity price falls
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Speaker 5: due to subsidies are a fall in an electricity bill. Now,
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Speaker 5: electricity prices are rising, aren't they, Minister. That's written into
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Speaker 5: a level every electricity bill, isn't it, Minister. And if
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Speaker 5: you can't admit that simple fact here today. Why should
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Speaker 5: anyone believe anything that you say?
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Speaker 6: Well, thanks very much for the question, Chris.
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Speaker 7: I'm not exactly sure what your question is really in reality,
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Speaker 7: you've got strong views.
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Speaker 6: Sorry you are electricity prices going back? Press you up down.
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Speaker 6: I didn't interrupt. I didn't interrupt a question. Do I
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Speaker 6: get to answer? Do I get to answer it? Thank you.
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Speaker 7: You've got strong views about these matters, which you express
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Speaker 7: on Sky News in the evenings, and that's your right.
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Speaker 7: Agree with the way that you look at these matters.
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Speaker 7: I disagree with the approach that you take. Respectfully, I
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Speaker 7: think that renewable energy is the cheapest form of energy.
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Speaker 7: You disagree with me, you disagree with the CSIRO. You're
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Speaker 7: perfectly in total of that point of view. I have
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Speaker 7: said at the outset in my opening remarks, energy prices
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Speaker 7: are higher than I'd like them to be. Of course
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Speaker 7: they are. I think everyone would say that. I think
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Speaker 7: normal Australians at home also look around the world and
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Speaker 7: known that people around the world are dealing with similar issues.
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Speaker 7: Countries with different policies in place, are all dealing with
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Speaker 7: high energy prices with great respect. It's disingenuous and dishonest
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Speaker 7: of you to blame all this renewable energy as you
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Speaker 7: do on Sky in the evenings. It's just not right, sir,
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Speaker 7: It's just not fair.
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Speaker 6: You're entitled to that view.
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Speaker 5: It's a very very simple question. Have electricity prices risen
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Speaker 5: on your watch? The exact opposite of what you pledged?
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Speaker 13: Have that.
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Speaker 6: We have never denied. We have never denied that energy
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Speaker 6: prices are higher than we would like to.
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Speaker 7: That's why we've delivered three rounds of energy to be
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Speaker 7: relief bill relieve the stage.
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Speaker 5: You wrote, electricity prices have fallen. That's not true, is it.
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Speaker 3: Well?
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Speaker 7: The fact of the matter is, if you look at
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Speaker 7: the recent data, Australia's had the lowest energy inflation.
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Speaker 6: In the world. Now you might deny that, and I
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Speaker 6: know you deny several things.
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Speaker 14: Reason for it?
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Speaker 6: What is the reason for, mister you when you're ask
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Speaker 6: you a question or are your debating, It's.
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Speaker 5: Just that you are completely avoiding it, as you always do.
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Speaker 7: We get a last I know you're a man of
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Speaker 7: strong news on these matters, and I said, I've always
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Speaker 7: had respects for you, but I have a fundamentally different
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Speaker 7: view to the one that you have developed.
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Speaker 6: In recent years, which you express.
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Speaker 5: On Sky Now, if your premise on renewables is true,
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Speaker 5: electricity prices will fall in your next term.
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Speaker 7: Well as again, i'd refer you to the austral Energy
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Speaker 7: Market Commission report which says, if we keep the path
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Speaker 7: we're on, energy prices will fall by thirty percent over
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Speaker 7: the next ten years.
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Speaker 6: You might deny that. I don't.
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Speaker 2: You could demonize Sky News or you like Minister, but
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Speaker 2: everyone to hear read a balance sheet, you clearly can't.
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Speaker 2: You can't read your bond of papers either.
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Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what.
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Speaker 2: A government that's not honest enough to apologize for its
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Speaker 2: power price failure does not deserve a second term. All right,
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Speaker 2: for the last time this week, we're down to check
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Speaker 2: in now with the two leaders campaign starting tonight, of course,
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Speaker 2: with the Anthony Albanisi bus joined of me now from Darwin.
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Speaker 4: Our political reporter can read it.
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Speaker 15: Well.
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Speaker 4: You've covered around.
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Speaker 2: Some ground Sydney after cans in beautiful temperance Darwin tonight.
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Speaker 2: What's been the PM's main message as he's been in
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Speaker 2: the top end.
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Speaker 16: Yeah, part of it, Peter on this tour of the
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Speaker 16: top parts of Australia has been about projecting confidence. It's
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Speaker 16: kind of hard to get away from the feeling that
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Speaker 16: the Prime Minister has got a pep in his step.
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Speaker 16: He was out talking tourism today on Green Island. We're
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Speaker 16: here in Darwin now, but started the day in cans
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Speaker 16: This was a big tourism announcement around the Great Barrier
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Speaker 16: Reef subsidizing school visits, a ten million dollar investment for tourism.
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Speaker 16: But of course, hovering over all of this tour wherever
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Speaker 16: both of the leaders go, is the impact of Donald Trump.
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Speaker 16: The stock market is reacting every day, the changing narrative
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Speaker 16: around the tariffs, and the response from the likes of China,
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Speaker 16: which has mounted over even the past forty eight hours.
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Speaker 16: Seems like every time we get on and off the
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Speaker 16: plane that things have been changing. Peter, I have the
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Speaker 16: chance to have a chat with the Prime Minister about
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Speaker 16: this today. Funnily enough, we were on the back of
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Speaker 16: a boat in the middle of the Coral Sea. But
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Speaker 16: he did, perhaps I think, make his clearest assessment of
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Speaker 16: this analysis yet, in which he says, look, this is
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Speaker 16: changing by the day. The Trump administration is changing by
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Speaker 16: the day. And he made this little analogy to not
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Speaker 16: just sea sickness, but also some choppy waters in the
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Speaker 16: economy as well.
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Speaker 3: Miss choppy waters behind us.
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Speaker 16: And toppy waters in the economy.
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Speaker 4: At the moment, we.
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Speaker 16: Know the impact of Donald Trump's tariffs. They're changing almost
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Speaker 16: by the day. How should Australians be looking at this?
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Speaker 4: They see what's.
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Speaker 16: Happening on the stock market around the world. What would
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Speaker 16: your message be to vote early?
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Speaker 17: That we've been in choppy waters for some time, That
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Speaker 17: we had COVID pandemic, then we had the biggest global
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Speaker 17: inflation spike since the nineteen eighties, the biggest energy crisis
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Speaker 17: since the nineteen seventies. Poppy waters, you've got to navigate them,
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Speaker 17: but you've also got to keep your eye on the horizon.
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Speaker 2: All Right, we'll leave it there, thanks, Cam, have a
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Speaker 2: good weekend. I think things are actually changing with the PM.
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Speaker 2: Oh he's getting tetchy. I'll get to that at the moment.
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Speaker 2: Let's go down of the Peter Dutton campaign. Then media
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Speaker 2: plans currently in the air, so our political reporter Rubon
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Speaker 2: Spargo filed this report before he took off.
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Speaker 18: If the opposition leader is to have any chance of
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Speaker 18: forming government, he needs to lift the coalition standing in Victoria.
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Speaker 18: While visiting Melbourne, Peter Dutton is attacking the government over
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Speaker 18: its economic management. He stopped in at a manufacturer and
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Speaker 18: the seat of Aston. The Opposition is appealing to Victorian
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Speaker 18: voters with a plan to reduce the nation's one point
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Speaker 18: two trillion dollar debt bill. It will scrap three labor funds,
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Speaker 18: including the rewiring the Nation Fund. The coalition will funnel
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Speaker 18: eighty percent of commodity revenue windfalls into two new future
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Speaker 18: fund vehicles.
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Speaker 8: Labor can't manage money and it's been demonstrated here in Victoria.
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Speaker 8: The Albanezi Alan Alliance is on display for all the
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Speaker 8: strains to see. When you put a labor government, particularly
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Speaker 8: a minority labor government, into a second term, they just
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Speaker 8: bake in the bad decisions.
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Speaker 18: The Prime Minister has previously claimed his only responsible for
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Speaker 18: the federal budget, denying state links. Peter Darton is now
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Speaker 18: preparing for his next destination after this quick stop in Melbourne.
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Speaker 4: All right, plenty of.
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Speaker 2: ELL's other issues I want to get across. Now, let's
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Speaker 2: get to them. Daily Telegraph James Willis and media commentator
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Speaker 2: Curly Katsimbarnas. Let's start with that head to head today,
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Speaker 2: Energy minister. Chris Bowen basically handed his backside, as my
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Speaker 2: father would say, not just by Ted O'Brien, the shadow counterpart,
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Speaker 2: but also by Chris Juelman. I play that a moment ago, James.
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Speaker 2: I think this whole energy debate is huge in the campaign.
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Speaker 4: I know the macro is.
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Speaker 2: Cost of living, but this is how cost of living
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Speaker 2: plays out for everyone, because electricity is essential like nothing else,
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Speaker 2: and it's in the supply chain of almost everything we buy.
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Speaker 16: Well, Peter, that's right, and it comes back to how
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Speaker 16: small businesses survive. It comes back to business. It comes
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Speaker 16: back to larger industry and having enough power and not
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Speaker 16: being told that we're going for blackouts or brownouts and
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Speaker 16: they could be in trouble. But it was refreshing and
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Speaker 16: about time that Chris Bowen cops some serious tough questions.
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Speaker 16: And I thought Chris Allman handled that very well. The
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Speaker 16: response was terribly disrespectful and disgraceful to his journalism and
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Speaker 16: also to Sky News. But Chris Bowen has been refusing
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Speaker 16: the tough interviews. He doesn't go on a lot on
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Speaker 16: talkback radio. He rarely does interviews with anyone of merit.
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Speaker 16: He's happy to go on social media and bag Peter
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Speaker 16: Dutton and spook his own policies without challenge. But you're
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Speaker 16: right this should be front and center. And Peter Dutton
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Speaker 16: and his senior opposition front bench cannot be talking about
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Speaker 16: this enough. From the power bills that Mum and Dad
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Speaker 16: play right up to the top end of town.
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Speaker 3: They have failed on this.
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Speaker 16: And look, they could have taken a leaf out of
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Speaker 16: Peter Dutton's book and Chris Bowen, by now an Anthony
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Speaker 16: Aberneze should have.
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Speaker 3: Said, look, energy, it's volatile.
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Speaker 16: There's been international factors, the coalition, everything else.
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Speaker 3: We got this wrong.
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Speaker 16: We know prices have gone in the other direction. Instead
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Speaker 16: they're refusing or gaslighting the Australian people.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Christian woman too long long story career at
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Speaker 2: the ABC, then Channel nine, only recently at Sky's so
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Speaker 2: to try and sort of drag him down by the
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Speaker 2: fact he's on a Murdoch Network program currently it's clearly
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Speaker 2: done his homework. He did that terrific doco on the
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Speaker 2: whole energy miss This is where Bowen's exposed and currently
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Speaker 2: I'll bring you in if I can, because Bowen's also
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Speaker 2: in trouble in his seat.
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Speaker 4: There's compass polling out today.
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Speaker 2: It says he said of McMahon in the Western city
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Speaker 2: is really at risk. His challenger is a true independent,
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Speaker 2: a local tech millionaire guy called Matt camon Zuli. He's
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Speaker 2: sitting at forty one percent. Bowe and I might add
19:12
Speaker 2: is way way back in the field on nineteen. It's
19:15
Speaker 2: a real conservative seat underlying in a social conservative sense.
19:19
Speaker 2: It voted no to same sex marriage, it voted no
19:22
Speaker 2: to the voice. The Libs have got about twenty percent
19:25
Speaker 2: support there. So in terms of the preference flows, I
19:29
Speaker 2: reckon Bowen's in real trouble.
19:33
Speaker 15: Thanks so, Peter. It lovely to be with you, James,
19:35
Speaker 15: and all the viewers. Look, it is quite prophetic, isn't
19:38
Speaker 15: It was only half a dozen years ago that Chris
19:40
Speaker 15: Bowen said the infamous well, if you don't like our policies,
19:43
Speaker 15: don't vote for us. So, I mean, it's good to
19:45
Speaker 15: know that he's reminding the actual electorate of that.
19:48
Speaker 4: And as you say, it's.
19:49
Speaker 15: Even more ironic, you know, the treatment of Chris Yielman,
19:52
Speaker 15: as you said, very disrespectful. Good to know that Chris
19:55
Speaker 15: Bowen keeps an eye on Sky News, Australia's news leader.
19:58
Speaker 15: But it gets it's away from the point that he
20:01
Speaker 15: just seems wedded to this green hydrogen renewables package when
20:06
Speaker 15: a lot of other people and countries have got out
20:08
Speaker 15: of it. Even Andrew Twiggy Forest is called it quits.
20:11
Speaker 15: He's abandoned all his green hydrogen projects. But the bottom
20:14
Speaker 15: line is, Chris you Elman was quite right. No one's
20:17
Speaker 15: power prices have gone down. Bowen hasn't taken responsibility for
20:22
Speaker 15: that pledge that our power bills would go down by
20:24
Speaker 15: two hundred and seventy five dollars. And he's still on
20:27
Speaker 15: the bandwagon. He's always the first one that when Dutton,
20:31
Speaker 15: you know, proposed nuclear you know, the three eyed fish
20:34
Speaker 15: and the three headed this and that and what have you.
20:36
Speaker 15: But the bottom line is he just seems wetted. And
20:40
Speaker 15: it reminds me of a Seinfeld episode where George said
20:43
Speaker 15: to Jerry, it's not a lie, Jerry, as long as
20:46
Speaker 15: you believe it. Seems like Chris Bowen is saying that
20:48
Speaker 15: to himself. This renewables push is just ridiculous. We've got
20:52
Speaker 15: to call it quits. We've got to get out and
20:53
Speaker 15: we've got to get Australia back on track.
20:57
Speaker 2: And look, I guarantee you a bit like Matt kayin
20:59
Speaker 2: the moment that Chris and is no longer in federal politics.
21:02
Speaker 2: This is where he'll go to or earn a coin.
21:05
Speaker 2: He will take jobs in this sector. I say, this
21:08
Speaker 2: is just one big job advertisement CV sort of strutting
21:13
Speaker 2: around for that rent seeking industry. But we'll see mark
21:17
Speaker 2: those words. So I'm right down the track. Senator James
21:20
Speaker 2: Patterson on a hypocrisy relating to the teals. James, He's
21:24
Speaker 2: called out a wealthy fund manager whose company invests heavily
21:27
Speaker 2: in fossil fuels to be a big donor for Climate
21:31
Speaker 2: two hundred.
21:35
Speaker 16: It's an interesting one, Peter, because this really, for the
21:38
Speaker 16: parties involved, souls sorry, provides an interesting dual purpose because
21:44
Speaker 16: for the fund managers or these wealthy investors, they can
21:47
Speaker 16: go back to there I suppose they're shareholders and their
21:50
Speaker 16: customers and say, look, we're investing money into a political
21:53
Speaker 16: movement called Climate two hundred who are determined to save
21:56
Speaker 16: the planet. But the big issue here, and this has
21:59
Speaker 16: happened at the last and at this election, is that
22:02
Speaker 16: you have independent MPs that are claiming to run on
22:05
Speaker 16: a platform of integrity, that have accepted large sums of
22:09
Speaker 16: money from companies with links or that also invest in
22:14
Speaker 16: fossil fuels, which is their number one know now, now,
22:16
Speaker 16: if you are running Liberal Party campaigns in the Northern Beaches,
22:20
Speaker 16: in the Eastern suburbs, in parts of Melbourne and in WA,
22:23
Speaker 16: I mean you'd be putting this on a billboard.
22:25
Speaker 3: This would be the easiest.
22:26
Speaker 16: Political advertisement ever to say, Hey, this candidate or this
22:29
Speaker 16: MP at the last election accepted tens of thousands of
22:33
Speaker 16: dollars for someone with links to fossil fuels. I think
22:36
Speaker 16: it's dynamite, it's red hot, and given the resources behind
22:39
Speaker 16: Climate two hundred, I'm amazed that they don't have the
22:43
Speaker 16: integrity or someone to say, hey, that donation we just
22:46
Speaker 16: got that thirty thousand dollars, we shouldn't be accepting that.
22:49
Speaker 4: Take it back.
22:50
Speaker 16: They have the potential to do that, and the fact
22:52
Speaker 16: they're not is the ultimate hypocrisy.
22:54
Speaker 4: Peter, at this stage, let's go to another till.
22:58
Speaker 2: This is a bloke running down the Victorian seat of
23:01
Speaker 2: one and so this is to the west of Victoria.
23:03
Speaker 2: It's a regional seat. His name is Alex Dyson. More
23:07
Speaker 2: today about his tawdry passes coming back to haunt him now,
23:10
Speaker 2: caroly I don't know how much I can say here,
23:13
Speaker 2: given this as a six o'clock program, but we're talking
23:15
Speaker 2: about sexually explicit posts on Facebook here.
23:20
Speaker 4: He's accused others.
23:21
Speaker 2: Of got to politics now that this is all out
23:23
Speaker 2: in the public domain, but he's not denying it.
23:26
Speaker 6: Is he?
23:28
Speaker 15: Look, he certainly isn't it. And it again shows that
23:31
Speaker 15: the teals they preach, you know, one thing, and yet
23:33
Speaker 15: they're very hypoc you know, it's hypocrisy with another. The
23:37
Speaker 15: other important thing is we've known for twenty years that
23:40
Speaker 15: anything is traceable on Google, any social media at all,
23:43
Speaker 15: as he rightly said, Peter. You know, it's just after
23:46
Speaker 15: six o'clock here, and you know, we can't say exactly
23:49
Speaker 15: what he said. But he's not denying any of that,
23:51
Speaker 15: and it's disgraceful. And there are already people in the
23:53
Speaker 15: electorates saying or I don't want someone like that. I
23:56
Speaker 15: don't want to vote for someone that's doing that. And
23:58
Speaker 15: it also shows a window into the person's character. I mean,
24:02
Speaker 15: people have been worn for twenty years. Everything that you
24:04
Speaker 15: put on Facebook or social media will come back, but
24:07
Speaker 15: of course it's always a different set of standards that
24:11
Speaker 15: the teals hold themselves to. It's a different set of
24:13
Speaker 15: standards that labor hold themselves to. But lo and behold
24:17
Speaker 15: it's someone from the Coalition. It's completely different. I think
24:20
Speaker 15: it's disgraceful. This is a young man, he's twenty eight
24:23
Speaker 15: years old, and if these are the views that he
24:25
Speaker 15: holds towards women and life in general, you know he
24:29
Speaker 15: just shouldn't be running for offers.
24:33
Speaker 2: I know the people have won, and I know how
24:34
Speaker 2: they're going to have a good look at this character
24:37
Speaker 2: and this sort of history, and I think they're finding wanting.
24:39
Speaker 2: I'll leave it there. Have a good weekend, both of you.
24:41
Speaker 2: See you next week. Let's go down to the city
24:43
Speaker 2: set of Wentworth, currently held by another one of those teals,
24:46
Speaker 2: a guccigree and I call it a leg respender. But
24:49
Speaker 2: taking the fight right up to her Liberal candidate Roe Knox,
24:52
Speaker 2: who's officially launching her campaign tonight to turn Wentworth blue.
24:56
Speaker 4: On places say Rose being able to.
24:58
Speaker 2: Join us from her launch, Well, i'll tell you what, Row,
25:03
Speaker 2: you've certainly shaken things up there in Wentworth. You had
25:07
Speaker 2: an agreed debate on Sky News with a legal spender,
25:10
Speaker 2: but she's reneged on you now we're still standing by
25:14
Speaker 2: the offer.
25:15
Speaker 4: Are you standing by the offer? Surely the people have
25:17
Speaker 4: Wentworth deservant debate.
25:20
Speaker 19: They certainly do, Peter, and we are certainly standing by
25:24
Speaker 19: that offer. We'd love to debate a legal spender, and
25:27
Speaker 19: we think it's so important for the Wentworth community to
25:31
Speaker 19: see who their candidates are and what they stand for.
25:36
Speaker 2: We were just talking about the tials and their funding
25:38
Speaker 2: sources and revelations today significant money from fossil fuelds into
25:42
Speaker 2: Climate two hundred that they pitched themselves as grassroots, community independent,
25:48
Speaker 2: but a lot of the money that's spent in seats
25:51
Speaker 2: is coming from outside those electorates. Do you think the
25:55
Speaker 2: voters in your seat of Wentworth that you hope to
25:58
Speaker 2: win understand this.
26:03
Speaker 4: Yes.
26:03
Speaker 19: Look, I think Peter, it's very disappointing for the people
26:07
Speaker 19: of Wentworth that we've had this extensive amount of money
26:11
Speaker 19: coming from outside the seat, and it's obviously been backed
26:14
Speaker 19: by a Climate two hundred donors and as you mentioned
26:19
Speaker 19: in twenty twenty two, some of those donors were actually
26:22
Speaker 19: involved in the fossil fuels and this was a group
26:25
Speaker 19: of people last time who ran exclusively on climate action.
26:31
Speaker 2: I think Australians need to know where these independents stand
26:35
Speaker 2: in the case of a hung parliament. You know it's
26:37
Speaker 2: absolutely on the cards if the polls are to be believed.
26:41
Speaker 2: Do you think we'll hear that from a legal spending
26:42
Speaker 2: before the election.
26:45
Speaker 4: We definitely won't. Peter.
26:47
Speaker 19: She said quite definitively on Sunday night that she would
26:50
Speaker 19: not declare which party should go with in the event
26:54
Speaker 19: of a hung parliament. Obviously, in a time of toni
26:58
Speaker 19: political uncertainty and uncertainty in general, I think this is
27:02
Speaker 19: a completely unacceptable answer. People need to know before they
27:06
Speaker 19: go to the polls which way their member is going
27:09
Speaker 19: to vote.
27:12
Speaker 2: Well, good luck with the launch tonight, Row. I know
27:14
Speaker 2: you've got huge support there and Wentworth. Let's hope you
27:17
Speaker 2: can turn it blue. Thanks very much, Roe after the
27:20
Speaker 2: breaking Donald Trump's ninety day tariff reprieve. But I'll say
27:24
Speaker 2: for China, so where does this leave Australia. Plus another
27:27
Speaker 2: Albanezy puff piece today is Beijing makes it very clear
27:30
Speaker 2: who they want to win our federal election. Welco Beak
27:39
Speaker 2: still to Carma the riggers of the campaign starting to
27:41
Speaker 2: get to the PM several incidents now where he's lost
27:44
Speaker 2: his cool with journalists. Cameron Milner coming up first Donald
27:48
Speaker 2: Trump and now I'm seeing a ninety day pause on
27:51
Speaker 2: his sweeping tariffs for all nations. It didn't retaliate, lowering
27:55
Speaker 2: them to ten percent, which is of course where Australia is. However,
27:58
Speaker 2: he slapped a one hundred and twenty five percent tariff
28:01
Speaker 2: on China in responds to its eighty four percent retaliatory
28:06
Speaker 2: levy on the US.
28:08
Speaker 11: Nothing's over yet, but we have a tremendous amount of
28:11
Speaker 11: spirit from other countries, including China.
28:14
Speaker 3: China wants to make a deal.
28:15
Speaker 6: They just don't know how quite to go about it.
28:17
Speaker 1: You know.
28:17
Speaker 3: It's one of those things that aren't quite proud people.
28:22
Speaker 6: And President she's a proud man.
28:24
Speaker 3: I know him very well, and they don't.
28:26
Speaker 15: Know quite how to go about it, but they'll figure
28:28
Speaker 15: it out.
28:29
Speaker 2: Johnnyman how to discuss this and more and to translate
28:32
Speaker 2: which has been what has been a very difficult tennel
28:35
Speaker 2: in days or so fore and EDITU at the Australian
28:37
Speaker 2: Greg Sheridan, as I said, Greg helped translate Trump economics
28:43
Speaker 2: for US here. He's announced that backflip the ninety day
28:46
Speaker 2: pause after more than seventy five countries asked to negotiate.
28:51
Speaker 4: What's what's your read of this?
28:55
Speaker 14: Great to be with you. This has been very messy
28:58
Speaker 14: from Trump. It's not in concern avable. He'll get a
29:01
Speaker 14: halfway decent result out of it, but there's a tremendous
29:04
Speaker 14: cost in the disruption and a tremendous cost to his
29:07
Speaker 14: credibility and to American credibility. He imposed these tariffs, his
29:12
Speaker 14: administration was at war with itself. His best friend Neilon
29:16
Speaker 14: Musk was calling his trade advisor Peter Navarro and moron.
29:21
Speaker 14: And no human being in history has wiped so many
29:25
Speaker 14: trillions of dollars of wealth out of existence as Trump
29:28
Speaker 14: did with one day of those tariffs. But then in
29:32
Speaker 14: another day he removed those tariffs and then created trillions
29:36
Speaker 14: of dollars of wealth. Now, I think all the countries
29:39
Speaker 14: who have escaped tariffs will do beneficial deals with the US.
29:44
Speaker 14: And so there's some progress there, but at enormous cost.
29:48
Speaker 14: Now with China, tariffs against China are well justified by
29:52
Speaker 14: the US, well justified. However, it's inconceivable that they'll remain
29:56
Speaker 14: at one hundred and twenty five percent and Chinese tariffs
29:59
Speaker 14: again the US at eighty four percent. My guess is
30:02
Speaker 14: that there will be a deal between China and the
30:05
Speaker 14: US in the not very distant future. And two points
30:08
Speaker 14: I'd make about that. One is the global markets would
30:11
Speaker 14: not have recovered so strongly if they didn't think there
30:14
Speaker 14: was going to be some kind of US China deal.
30:17
Speaker 1: And you know that.
30:18
Speaker 14: The sad truth is the last time Trump and China
30:21
Speaker 14: did a deal was not very good for the US.
30:23
Speaker 14: The Chinese didn't uphold their end of the bargain, and
30:28
Speaker 14: the US trade deficit with China was just as big
30:30
Speaker 14: as ever, and Chinese behavior didn't change. Now, Trump is
30:34
Speaker 14: all tactics and no strategy in my opinion, and this
30:37
Speaker 14: has been very, very messy. But one good thing about
30:41
Speaker 14: Trump he has no ideological consistency and no real ideological beliefs.
30:45
Speaker 14: So when he gets to a point where his policies
30:48
Speaker 14: are a disaster, he simply declares victory and moves in
30:51
Speaker 14: the opposite direction.
30:55
Speaker 4: Yeah.
30:55
Speaker 2: Look, it's a bit like sausages, right, You don't want
30:57
Speaker 2: to see them being made, but we all like a sausage,
31:00
Speaker 2: particularly on election day. He is a brawler, that's his
31:03
Speaker 2: commercial mercantile character, and in the end. If he gets
31:08
Speaker 2: the outcome, if he gets to deal with China, that
31:10
Speaker 2: takes the US forward further than where it was in
31:14
Speaker 2: trade terms when he was elected. Isn't that in the
31:18
Speaker 2: long term a win.
31:21
Speaker 14: Possibly? Possibly, It depends how much better the deal really is.
31:24
Speaker 14: So when Trump makes as big a mess as he's
31:27
Speaker 14: made here, he was in danger of losing Republican congressman.
31:32
Speaker 14: His approval ratings are the worst of any president at
31:34
Speaker 14: this time in his term. The only president who comes
31:37
Speaker 14: near to having approval ratings as bad as this stage
31:40
Speaker 14: of his first term was Donald Trump in the first round.
31:43
Speaker 14: And then, oddly enough, really the pressure gets on him
31:47
Speaker 14: to make a deal. So we saw this four years ago.
31:50
Speaker 14: He had a brawl with Canada that he made a
31:53
Speaker 14: deal with Canada and Mexico which was really just the
31:55
Speaker 14: NAPTA deal under a new name, and he negotiated and
32:00
Speaker 14: then he ripped it up. This time now, global trade
32:04
Speaker 14: needs some stability. There is a cost in the disruption.
32:08
Speaker 14: If he moves really forward with China and that's a
32:11
Speaker 14: net benefit, then you've got to put that benefit against
32:14
Speaker 14: the disruption. And if it's a big benefit, then it
32:17
Speaker 14: was worth the disruption. But the Chinese have a long
32:21
Speaker 14: history of basically not honoring their deals with Trump. Trump
32:24
Speaker 14: is so obsessed with getting the deal and the optics
32:27
Speaker 14: of the deal and everything that it's not always that
32:30
Speaker 14: whereas the good elements of his policy reduced energy prices, deregulation,
32:36
Speaker 14: tax cuts that can power an American economic boom. But
32:41
Speaker 14: I don't think you can look at this tariff episode
32:45
Speaker 14: as anything other than pretty disastrous from Trump so far.
32:51
Speaker 2: So this hasn't been a rare federal election in Australia
32:54
Speaker 2: when international issues have interrupted the political play. I haven't
32:59
Speaker 2: seen that for a long time. Of course, we've had
33:01
Speaker 2: quite a bit on China. I'll get to China in
33:03
Speaker 2: a moment. But Trump has been used, particularly by Labor,
33:07
Speaker 2: to try and drag down Peter Dutton. I have a
33:11
Speaker 2: feeling that this ninety day reprieve will take Trump sort
33:14
Speaker 2: of out of the equation at least domestically before the
33:18
Speaker 2: third of May, and Labor're not gonna like that. And
33:20
Speaker 2: of course the more they talk about Trump Labor, the
33:24
Speaker 2: less the Prime Minister is held to account for his
33:27
Speaker 2: China support, his China pro pro China commentary. But also
33:32
Speaker 2: I think dangerously Greg Sheridan is the fact that the
33:36
Speaker 2: China media is really pumping up his tires.
33:39
Speaker 4: Now my side of.
33:41
Speaker 2: Politics, if Beijing was out there being your best advertising
33:46
Speaker 2: spin in a campaign, that's a bad thing.
33:50
Speaker 14: Well, you're absolutely right, Peter. So I think Trump has
33:53
Speaker 14: been a serious negative for Dubtlin, a serious negative. It's
33:56
Speaker 14: not Dunton's fault. I don't think Dutton has run a
33:58
Speaker 14: brilliant campaign or anything, but it's not his fault. Trump
34:01
Speaker 14: is hurting every center right politician in the world, and
34:04
Speaker 14: he's helping every center left politician in the world. And
34:09
Speaker 14: you know this is overshadowing for campaign. But I think
34:12
Speaker 14: you're right. The ninety day paws will reduce the salience
34:15
Speaker 14: of Trump in Australian politics. I think Albanesi and Dutton
34:18
Speaker 14: both have been pretty sensible in the way they've responded
34:21
Speaker 14: to the Trump stuff, pretty low key, disagreeing with the
34:24
Speaker 14: tariffs but not personally criticizing Trump and not imposing retaliatory
34:29
Speaker 14: tariffs with the Chinese stuff. So the government today did
34:33
Speaker 14: reject the Chinese proposition that we're going to join hands
34:36
Speaker 14: and become Kumbai our allies with China. Well that's the
34:39
Speaker 14: very minimum they could have done. But the Chinese be
34:42
Speaker 14: very very happy with the Albanesi government. Overall. They send
34:44
Speaker 14: military ships to humiliate Australia and they get no response.
34:50
Speaker 14: That shows how weak Australia is, and they they I
34:55
Speaker 14: think they intentionally humiliated Albanesi when they first called him
34:59
Speaker 14: a hand some boy, and it's demeaning and contemptuous, and
35:04
Speaker 14: I think that that's quite intentional. They're not trying to
35:07
Speaker 14: hurt him, they're quite they're quite happy with him, but
35:09
Speaker 14: they are showing their absolute contempt for Australia and for
35:13
Speaker 14: all its little power games. After all, everyone in the
35:16
Speaker 14: world is increasing their defense budget to cap with Russia
35:19
Speaker 14: and China, the Europeans massively, so the Japanese, the British,
35:24
Speaker 14: even dear Old New Zealand has doubled this defense budget.
35:27
Speaker 14: We get a Chinese gunboat to plomacy exercise in our
35:30
Speaker 14: waters and we do nothing on defense. So I think
35:34
Speaker 14: they'd be very Beijing would be very very happy with
35:37
Speaker 14: the performance the Albanezer government.
35:40
Speaker 2: All right, well they were there. You're not wrong, They're great, Shearon,
35:42
Speaker 2: and thank you. How to the break more values for
35:45
Speaker 2: labor and Victoria inside it's concerned about the political blood
35:48
Speaker 2: barth looming due to Jacinta Allen talk today that already
35:52
Speaker 2: a number of seats are lost Class A preference really
35:55
Speaker 2: and dealing behind the scenes between Labor and the Greens
36:03
Speaker 2: welcobakstt to come growing concern as Chinese nationals have been
36:07
Speaker 2: found to join the Russian army in Ukraine the first
36:11
Speaker 2: plenty of people are eagerly anticipating in the outcome federal election,
36:13
Speaker 2: perhaps none more so that in battle Victorian Premier just
36:17
Speaker 2: Ino Alan. She's seriously on the nose in Victoria, Melbourne
36:21
Speaker 2: in particular, with a massive collapse in public support as
36:25
Speaker 2: a result.
36:25
Speaker 4: Today news is.
36:27
Speaker 2: That Allan's facing pressure to quit if Victorian voters punish
36:30
Speaker 2: the party at the polls on the third of May.
36:33
Speaker 2: What Labor is also telling us, and this I think
36:37
Speaker 2: is really important, They are pulling resources out already from
36:42
Speaker 2: a number of seats that they can sde are lost.
36:45
Speaker 2: Plenty to discuss here and joining me Director of GXO Strategies,
36:50
Speaker 2: Skynese contribute over of course, a former chief of staff
36:53
Speaker 2: to a national political leader in Bill Shorten. Cameron Milner Cameron,
36:57
Speaker 2: great to have you on the show. We started last
37:00
Speaker 2: week with his campaign wrap up. Lots of my audience
37:02
Speaker 2: loved it. Victoria rotten territory. Now for your mob, that's
37:07
Speaker 2: very clear. The ALP National secretary, they're chasing libertarian preferences,
37:12
Speaker 2: my goodness, me and Hawk and Dunkly, they're both Labour
37:16
Speaker 2: seats right now, but they're not chasing them in the
37:19
Speaker 2: marginals chisholm Ashton, McEwen and Bruce, because the rumor is
37:24
Speaker 2: they're already deemed to be a lost cause. Now this
37:28
Speaker 2: is a horror show for your mob, where do we start.
37:32
Speaker 12: Well, he's a horror show. And I don't think it's
37:34
Speaker 12: just about Premier Allen. I think there's a lag on
37:36
Speaker 12: Premier Andrews as well. I think Daniel has left the
37:39
Speaker 12: state of Victoria for labor, very poor state, and it's
37:42
Speaker 12: backed up, backed up. But then by week Elbow, who's
37:44
Speaker 12: done nothing for Victoria either, So no wonder the National
37:48
Speaker 12: secretary's already conceded four seats and walked away from them.
37:51
Speaker 12: He's not chasing preferences in the foremost marginal seats. He's
37:54
Speaker 12: trying to sandbag seven and eight percent seats in Hawk
37:57
Speaker 12: and Dunkley.
37:59
Speaker 3: So's that's inside story.
38:00
Speaker 12: Peter and that tells you the state of panic, the
38:03
Speaker 12: state of panic in the Victoria Labor Party and about
38:06
Speaker 12: just how bad it is for federal Labor, let alone
38:09
Speaker 12: the state government in November twenty twenty six.
38:12
Speaker 3: But the first came off the rink.
38:13
Speaker 12: The one the Victorians are going to get square with
38:15
Speaker 12: is Elbow and Federal Labor.
38:17
Speaker 3: And four six seats.
38:18
Speaker 12: And that's not counting the fact that Calwell is a
38:21
Speaker 12: really mixed bag. Even though it looks like safe. There's
38:24
Speaker 12: lots of candidates running in Callwell. It's going to split
38:26
Speaker 12: the Labor vote there and Peter Khalil and Josh Burns
38:29
Speaker 12: could both lose their seats the Greens as well, So
38:31
Speaker 12: it could be carnage, total carnage for Albaneze and Federal
38:35
Speaker 12: Labour in one state of Victoria.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it belies the fact that we'll come to
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Speaker 2: him getting touchy with the media, but is looking in
38:45
Speaker 2: sounding hyper confident, almost to the point of being cocky.
38:48
Speaker 2: You know, there's that tipping point, but that's where the
38:50
Speaker 2: Prime Minister is. However, if you look at that speech
38:53
Speaker 2: by Adam Band putting back on the table all the
38:55
Speaker 2: things that lost Bill Short in the unlosable election, these
38:59
Speaker 2: are complete unpopular measures right, They're back on the table
39:03
Speaker 2: though they will spook the soft vote. You and I
39:05
Speaker 2: both know that, and Labor needs that so absolutely undecided
39:09
Speaker 2: vote to fall their way, but.
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Speaker 3: They absolutely do.
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Speaker 12: And this is the problem with someone like Adam Bandt,
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Speaker 12: who is going to be your political partner, because there's
39:18
Speaker 12: no way Labour's got enough seats in play not to
39:20
Speaker 12: be minority government.
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Speaker 3: That's what all the Poles are saying. And we talked
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Speaker 3: about Victoria.
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Speaker 12: I mean Victoria will lose majority government for Albanize in
39:26
Speaker 12: one state alone, let alone what's helping happening around the
39:28
Speaker 12: rest of Ustrator. So there's no way the Greens aren't
39:31
Speaker 12: going to be in the driver's seat after May three,
39:34
Speaker 12: and seeing Adam Bance smugly stand up there press conference
39:38
Speaker 12: and roll off all of Labour's previous secret plans, the
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Speaker 12: secret plan about negative gearing, the secret plan about capital gains,
39:43
Speaker 12: tax bands up for all of those, and to be fair,
39:46
Speaker 12: as you said, Labour's up for that. Only two elections
39:49
Speaker 12: to go as well. So Albo of course or wringing
39:51
Speaker 12: his hands and say, oh that's the price of government.
39:53
Speaker 12: I'm terribly sorry negative gearing people terribly sorry about landlords
39:57
Speaker 12: having rents being fixed for two or three years. That's
40:00
Speaker 12: the price of me staying Prime minister after May four.
40:03
Speaker 12: That's what we're facing, Peter, And you're right. I mean,
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Speaker 12: I think voters will actually get scared about that. They
40:08
Speaker 12: were already scared by Labour secret plans previously. I think
40:11
Speaker 12: they'll be very scared that bands will deliver those plans
40:15
Speaker 12: in space.
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Speaker 2: What's interesting about the whole geopolitical play in a federal
40:23
Speaker 2: election I was just discussing it with Grig Sheridan, is
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Speaker 2: the fact that seventy five other countries had put calls
40:29
Speaker 2: in to the US President or actually got on planes
40:32
Speaker 2: and had meetings to try and renegotiate these tariffs. The
40:35
Speaker 2: Prime Minister's done none of that. Now he'll say, oh,
40:38
Speaker 2: we've got caretaker conventions. We're in the middle of an
40:40
Speaker 2: election campaign. But it was only a couple of days
40:42
Speaker 2: ago that Jim Chalmers was crowing about the fact that
40:45
Speaker 2: he was speaking with Rachel Reeves, the Chancellor of the Excheque,
40:49
Speaker 2: the Treasurer in the United Kingdom about these tariffs. So
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Speaker 2: if Chalmers can pick up the phone and have briefings
40:56
Speaker 2: with international leaders or counterparts.
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Speaker 4: In his case, there's the PM.
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Speaker 3: Well it's even more red hot than that.
41:03
Speaker 12: I mean, we got news today that Don Farrell's trying
41:06
Speaker 12: to do an EU deal in the midst of a
41:08
Speaker 12: caretaker conventions. So the caretaker convention is a fig lea
41:12
Speaker 12: for elbows, weakness and laziness. He can't even get a
41:15
Speaker 12: return phone call from the United States President. I mean,
41:17
Speaker 12: this is the guy who's supposed to be one end
41:18
Speaker 12: of three parts of UCUS. This guy is not making
41:21
Speaker 12: the effort and is excusing himself with the caretaker convention
41:25
Speaker 12: because the bloke's not doing enough for Australia. The bloke's
41:27
Speaker 12: not standing up to Trump on tariffs and would much
41:30
Speaker 12: rather say and do nothing, because that's the elbow way.
41:35
Speaker 4: McNamara.
41:36
Speaker 2: The old Melbourne Ports, you mentioned that they're in a
41:39
Speaker 2: sweep of seats. Josh Burns holds it. He's a Jewish man.
41:43
Speaker 2: He has spoken up, but I think he's struggled internally
41:46
Speaker 2: to get any traction. He faced off against the Liberal
41:50
Speaker 2: candidate Benson Solo out of Synagogue and Saint Kilda last night.
41:53
Speaker 2: Now it's fair to say the reception for Burns was lukewarm.
41:58
Speaker 4: Have a Listen, how has the.
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Speaker 9: Last eighteen months impacted on.
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Speaker 1: I've been inside the room trying to get things.
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Speaker 6: To help our people.
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Speaker 1: Excuse me, that's okay, We've.
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Speaker 13: No interruptions.
42:17
Speaker 3: I'm not going to honor that.
42:19
Speaker 1: With a response.
42:21
Speaker 2: Okay, this is pretty tough for him. Preference flows will
42:24
Speaker 2: be hugely important. He only just survived last time, didn't.
42:29
Speaker 12: He He did, and it was a matter of a
42:32
Speaker 12: couple of hundred votes between whether he slipped below the
42:34
Speaker 12: Greens or not. And that's the problem for Josh in
42:37
Speaker 12: that seat is that he relies on a strong following
42:41
Speaker 12: from the Jewish community. And I don't have a lot
42:43
Speaker 12: of time for Josh, but I think Penny Wongs cut
42:45
Speaker 12: him off at the knees and I think Tony Burk's
42:47
Speaker 12: beheaded him in that seat. I mean this is this
42:49
Speaker 12: is a Labor government that has done the wrong thing
42:51
Speaker 12: by the Jewish community Australia systematically. It hasn't started up
42:54
Speaker 12: to Andy Semitism, hasn't how down the people who are
42:58
Speaker 12: pro her mass in the Labor Party and Josh going
43:00
Speaker 12: to pay that price. And as for being in the
43:02
Speaker 12: room where it happens, no, he's not. He's in Peenny
43:04
Speaker 12: Wong's waiting room. Well, Tony Burke and Penny Wong us
43:07
Speaker 12: working out exactly how hard they want to go on
43:09
Speaker 12: Israel and how embarrassing they want to be for federal labor,
43:12
Speaker 12: given that we're the party of Bob Hawk and a
43:14
Speaker 12: party I think which has a really strong history of
43:17
Speaker 12: friendship with Israel, except on Elbow's watch, it's been torched.
43:23
Speaker 2: Under the current left faction control. Hey, we mentioned before,
43:26
Speaker 2: I mentioned before that the Prime Minister and this, this
43:29
Speaker 2: was backed up by our journalists on the road. That is,
43:32
Speaker 2: you know, got that manufactured confidence. As I said, there's
43:35
Speaker 2: a tipping point between that and cocky, and I think
43:36
Speaker 2: he's almost there, but not yet. However, I have noticed
43:40
Speaker 2: how tetchy he's getting with journalists.
43:42
Speaker 4: Have a listen.
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Speaker 9: Can you rule out any changes to negative gearing and
43:47
Speaker 9: capital gains test?
43:49
Speaker 14: How hard is he.
43:52
Speaker 3: Using this negotiations with the Greens in.
43:54
Speaker 9: Horse former government, in horse trading devotes and other matters?
43:59
Speaker 14: What are you talking about?
44:04
Speaker 4: I think tone? Tone, Tone is just critical in a campaign.
44:11
Speaker 12: It is, and we know that there's a nasty elbow.
44:13
Speaker 12: We know there's a tetchy elbow. We know that you
44:15
Speaker 12: know he sacked press secretaries because he's been so weak
44:18
Speaker 12: in the past and screamed at them in his office.
44:20
Speaker 12: We know all that it's occurred, and I think what
44:22
Speaker 12: we're seeing is elbow under pressure. Albert can't answer a
44:25
Speaker 12: straight question, which is why won't you do the deal
44:27
Speaker 12: at Adam Band said that he'll do to let you
44:29
Speaker 12: be PM again Prime Minister, so that's a fair question
44:31
Speaker 12: and for him to.
44:32
Speaker 3: Do that, But he's also snappy.
44:34
Speaker 12: Last week he was tetchy with another journalist when they're
44:36
Speaker 12: asking questions. I mean when you see that, when you
44:38
Speaker 12: and I watch this as we do, Peter and see
44:40
Speaker 12: the full press conference, we're seeing albow crack. We're seeing
44:43
Speaker 12: fractures around the edges of this confidence trick that he's
44:45
Speaker 12: trying to play by being mister always out there, mister Smiley.
44:49
Speaker 3: No, this guy is seriously under pressure. And to be.
44:53
Speaker 12: Fair, voters don't vote for another twelve days, Peter, and
44:57
Speaker 12: the elections May three, so I think it's a long
44:58
Speaker 12: way to go, a long way to go in this campaign.
45:02
Speaker 2: Love having you on the show. My viewers do too.
45:04
Speaker 2: See you next week, Cam all right after break. Australia
45:06
Speaker 2: has been blasted for blocking US beef imports.
45:09
Speaker 4: But that's not true. Stay tuned.
45:17
Speaker 2: Let's bring in the International Panel Sky and his contributed
45:19
Speaker 2: Kosher Guard and the wonder for Michael Dan Beef former
45:21
Speaker 2: Labor MP and Shairing, the Foreign Affairs Defense and a
45:24
Speaker 2: whole lot of other things.
45:25
Speaker 4: Committee.
45:26
Speaker 2: Today, we'll go back to the trade issue, but at
45:28
Speaker 2: the tariff end of it, this misinformation about Australian beef.
45:33
Speaker 2: There was a trade representative, a US trade representative called
45:35
Speaker 2: Jamison Gria, who blasted Australia saying that somehow we have
45:39
Speaker 2: defied the free trade and deal we have with America
45:43
Speaker 2: and he says Canberra's taken incredible steps to ban our beef,
45:47
Speaker 2: US beef and pork into Australia. Well, he's not telling
45:52
Speaker 2: the truth.
45:54
Speaker 13: Yes, I think he went a little bit sensationalist, and
45:57
Speaker 13: that hearing because Australia has become a cudgel to whacked
46:00
Speaker 13: administration on because it's one of the few countries that
46:02
Speaker 13: runs a trade surplus and they were using that as
46:04
Speaker 13: an example, and he gave his defense it's not true
46:06
Speaker 13: because Australia has the strictest biosecurity laws in the world
46:10
Speaker 13: and part of that is for fresh meat coming in,
46:12
Speaker 13: including beef. It has the cattle after be born, raised,
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Speaker 13: slaughtered and processed in the US, whereas a lot of
46:18
Speaker 13: US beef the cows may have originated in Mexico or
46:21
Speaker 13: Canada and then they're shipped over and that biolates that
46:24
Speaker 13: and that was all out in the open. I think
46:26
Speaker 13: the bigger point is why does Australia still fall into
46:30
Speaker 13: this ten percent tariff? And Team Trump believes that they
46:32
Speaker 13: just want to set a baseline for everybody around the world,
46:35
Speaker 13: whether you're a surplus.
46:36
Speaker 1: Australian consumers don't want made com meat from Mexico here,
46:39
Speaker 1: and that's quite understandable. Peter. I don't understand why Elbow
46:43
Speaker 1: hasn't got a delegation of Gena rein Hart and Greg
46:47
Speaker 1: Norman and even Joe Hockey and go over there even
46:50
Speaker 1: during this period, you.
46:50
Speaker 2: Know, because he doesn't want to have any Michael, you know,
46:54
Speaker 2: he doesn't want to have anything to do with Trump.
46:56
Speaker 4: He wants to use Trump.
46:58
Speaker 1: Not he's using ideological blind is to pursue the.
47:01
Speaker 2: NATY wants to use it as a weapon on Peter
47:03
Speaker 2: Dutton and to hang with a national interest.
47:05
Speaker 1: Even if they went over there, and weren't successful. At
47:07
Speaker 1: least you tried.
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Speaker 4: Well, everybody else has tried.
47:10
Speaker 2: Seventy five other countries have tried, and they've all got
47:12
Speaker 2: to the necrope.
47:13
Speaker 1: We're in the seventy five listened, we're trying well, not.
47:16
Speaker 2: Because he's been asked the questions. If you had the call,
47:18
Speaker 2: everyone else is doing it leader to leader, And you know,
47:21
Speaker 2: when the leaders make your call like this, it's way
47:23
Speaker 2: out of the US playbook. It has to be leadered
47:25
Speaker 2: a leader. Yeah, you're right, talk to me about what's
47:28
Speaker 2: happening in Ukraine because.
47:29
Speaker 1: There's this the Chinese troops.
47:31
Speaker 4: Yeah, very worrying.
47:32
Speaker 1: So there's Chinese troops there. Now, there's been a whole
47:36
Speaker 1: division of North Koreans that have been sent as the
47:41
Speaker 1: slaughter in the Kerse province. And of course you've got
47:44
Speaker 1: the Uranian drones that have been slaughtering civilians in Ukrainian
47:49
Speaker 1: cities every night of the last eighteen months. Now, Peter, everyone,
47:53
Speaker 1: apart from the current Trump administration, influenced by the Tucker
47:57
Speaker 1: Carlson isolations, seems to understand that there is a worldwide
48:01
Speaker 1: organization of Iran, North Korea, Russia, and China, and we
48:06
Speaker 1: better face up to it, and I would like the
48:09
Speaker 1: old Republicans to come back because this is not good enough.
48:13
Speaker 1: Steve Witkoff, where is your ceasefire in Ukraine? People? Nine
48:18
Speaker 1: children were killed in Kivri the other night. You promised
48:21
Speaker 1: they'd be a cease for ourn Ukraine. I think he's
48:24
Speaker 1: a hopeless negotiator, and they ought to get some mainstream person,
48:28
Speaker 1: including the Secretary of State Mark Rubio, to go over
48:31
Speaker 1: and take this up. I hope he's not going to
48:32
Speaker 1: stuff up the negotiations with Iran as he has with Ukraine.
48:37
Speaker 4: Access of crazies.
48:38
Speaker 2: I was trying to think, you know, I remember access
48:39
Speaker 2: of Eagles, that that is an access of crazies. Just quickly,
48:42
Speaker 2: this whistleblower Facebook and China, what's this story?
48:47
Speaker 13: So there's another whistleblower that just came out and gave
48:50
Speaker 13: a hearing in the US Senate about how allegedly Facebook
48:54
Speaker 13: colluded essentially with the CCP and shared American user eater
48:58
Speaker 13: with them and also eat them in the AI race.
49:01
Speaker 13: We don't know if it's true.
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Speaker 4: She's a whistleblower.
49:03
Speaker 13: They're obviously defending it vigorously, saying she has an ax
49:05
Speaker 13: to grind as a disgruntled employee. Be that as it may.
49:07
Speaker 13: But all of this, I think is building towards the
49:10
Speaker 13: real story, which is pressure is mounting for an anti
49:12
Speaker 13: trust case against Facebook and big tech because they're the
49:15
Speaker 13: most powerful companies to have ever existed. And whether it's
49:19
Speaker 13: collusion with the CCP, things that they're doing to citizens
49:21
Speaker 13: back home, just the sheer market power that they command
49:23
Speaker 13: and all the rest of it. That's what this is about,
49:25
Speaker 13: and all these things are arraying into place for a
49:28
Speaker 13: long way away from that. But I wouldn't be surprised
49:30
Speaker 13: if we saw some action around anti trust in the
49:32
Speaker 13: next three years.
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Speaker 4: And their political white, their political power. Thank you very much.
49:36
Speaker 2: Well over there, all right, that's it for me. So
49:39
Speaker 2: next week, week three of the election campaign. Jesu, it's
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Speaker 2: hotting up now. I'll see you then up nixt so
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Speaker 2: Andrew