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NFL Week 13 Recap · Banter with the Boys

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  Yo yo yo welcome back everybody to banter with the boys NFL week 14
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  Yo yo yo welcome back everybody to banner with the boys NFL week 14
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  13 is gone on to week 14, but of course we will be talking about those week 13 games
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  I'm your host smeltsy this week and with me I have
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  Nobody as Tyler is sick usually you're used to him hosting the show obviously
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  But unfortunately actually his whole household is sick, so we're just wishing him the best and his and his fam
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  Hopefully they heal up quick so moving right into the week 13 recaps
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  We had the Chiefs traveling to Green Bay just to start off here with the picks
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  I I thought the Chiefs would pull it off
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  they were favorited by six and a half and of course Tyler was a homer and picked his Packers and
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  Tyler was right the Packers took the game 27 to 19 and holy cow
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  What a game did we get from Jordan love this week? Uh-huh that was kind of funny actually holy cow
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  Spotted cows from Wisconsin. I love that beer lol, but anyway, sorry sidetracked a little bit
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  But Jordan love 25 for 36 267 yards 3 TDs
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  No picks great game all around from him
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  Packer fans, I think you finally also saw a little bit more what you were looking for from AJ Dylan
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  18 carries for 73 yards kind of coming up with some key plays
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  In the clutch I guess when you needed them Christian Watson
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  What a touchdown grab over slip in my mind who it was
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  But I mean we've talked about it on the show here the past couple weeks how
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  Christian Watson hasn't really shown to be that number one wide receiver, but that catch kind
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  That was a number one receiver catch catching it over somebody like that taking it away from him great play all around
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  So that Green Bay offense kind of just kept it going what we were not me
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  I guess I don't really give a shit
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  But what Tyler was kind of looking for kind of hoping that that Green Bay offense with how hot they've kind of been lately and kind
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  of figuring it out
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  Could keep it going and they absolutely did against Kansas City
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  Now on the other side of the ball Patrick my homes
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  Didn't look as good 21 for 33 210 yards touchdown and a pick
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  And that pick was ugly in my opinion now. I can't remember who
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  The receiver was I think was actually a running back coming out of the backfield
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  I don't know why he's slipping my mind there, too, but he kind of over he overthrew him
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  But a Nixon for the Packers went as he's picking the ball
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  He acted more like the receiver like over-the-shoulder type of catch
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  But if you look at the replay it looks like the intended receiver kind of did I believe his number 24?
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  so if I had a quick moment, I would look up who that was but I
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  believe
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  He almost stopped running in the route and you just you just can't so my homes is planning on you being there now
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  Don't get me wrong. I still think my homes overthrew him still a great play by Nixon to turn around
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  Grab that
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  Yeah, 24 is actually Sky more. Thanks to kev sitting right here for me. Thank you, sir
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  I thought it was Sky more but I was like, no, that's wrong
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  I thought he was a single digit, but okay, so got to keep running sky more
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  But who also only had one reception for five yards and he's just kind of been a big disappointment since he's got to Kansas City
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  Kind of was uh, I don't know getting rave reviews before he even did anything. So I don't know whatever but moving right along
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  Rashid Rice another great game from him Travis Kelsey again showing why he's the number one tight end in the league
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  Averaging 20 yards a catch. I mean, that's just ridiculous for receptions on five targets, but averaging 20 yards a catch
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  Normal stuff from him Isaiah Pacheco
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  Big game changer for Kansas City now if he didn't get ejected in the last 50 seconds, which we'll talk about later
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  Do I think that makes a difference in the game? No
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  But he did have a hell of a game himself, but let's talk about the end of the game here
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  The end of the game was actually really weird. So
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  The Chiefs have the ball last
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  Um kind of driving down the field down eight points, which is what they lost by
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  I don't know. It was second and I don't know six or eight whatever and mahomes is kind of
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  Running, you know running for the first down and he's kind of stretching the ball kind of not
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  But then he looks like he's heading right out of bounds, you know, nothing crazy and then boom gets cracked
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  absolutely cracked
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  Gosh, I can't remember kev you want to look up who number 34 on green bay is for me quick
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  I forget who that is, but uh
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  Oh, he already pulled it up Jonathan Owens. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
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  Absolutely, dude. I think that's the guy that's married to simone Biles too if i'm not mistaken
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  I can't remember i'm probably pulling that out of my ass, but
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  Anyway, just absolutely cracks mahomes mahomes feet weren't even on the out of bounds line boom ref throws a flag now
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  He did he is married to simone Biles. Damn. Look at me knowing pop culture. Holy shoot
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  But anyway
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  Where was I? Okay, he gets crack Owens cracks mahomes. Mahomes wasn't quite out of bounds ref throws the flag anyway
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  That's a tough one, right? Um
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  Because it's because what the refs said that
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  Bugs me he said the ref said quote and I just watched it again today
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  So I know this is exactly what the ref said he said quote after the play was over unnecessary roughness
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  After the play was over sir
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  Mahomes didn't step out of bounds that play wasn't over
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  Can you say unnecessary roughness in general on the on the tackle? Maybe but it was shoulder to shoulder clean hit
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  Mahomes was obviously like checking up kind of as he was going out of bounds and just kind of
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  Obliterated but I think that's kind of a bad call in my opinion and i'm no packer fan. Trust me, but uh,
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  Whatever. So that's 15 yards right off the bat the next play
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  I think right after that is when pacheco runs fumbles because kway walker's a beast
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  But then that's overturned because pacheco was allegedly down which I think he was looking at it
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  It does look like he was down, but damn it's close. It's a bang bang play
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  And I think that right there is a little bit of a
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  Bang bang play and I think that right there is when pacheco got up and threw a punch at somebody
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  Whatever. I think it was nixon actually threw a punch up. I could be wrong
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  And then ended up getting ejected
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  So, I don't know kind of some missed stuff by the refs there and then like a play or two later
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  Mahomes throws a deep ball to mvs
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  And somebody's all over mvs is back. That could have been a call for the chiefs
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  Like it's just so crazy to me
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  Uh, the refs were really trying to control the end of this game. They really were
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  And then ultimately it led to a hail mary, which you know, shoot
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  There could have been a call on that too
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  I saw travis kelsey get pushed right in the back away from the ball
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  Of course the guy you want to get away from the ball so I don't blame anybody
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  But another possibly missed call. I again, I don't give a shit who wins this game
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  I don't like either team equally to be honest with you, but
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  Um, it was just really weird man. It looked it seemed to me the refs really didn't want green bay to win
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  But then also missed calls on the chiefs right there at the end too. So I don't I don't really know
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  But all in all packers won 27-19
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  Kind of start thinking about maybe a wild card playoff spot for the packers, you know
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  And the chiefs have another tough game this week. So they got to look to have a nice little bounce back
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  On to our second game of the slate there for week 13. Um
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  Obviously my vikes typically number two game. They were on bye. So that's cool
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  Uh, seahawks traveling to dallas. Tyler picked the seahawks to win this game
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  Dallas was favorited by nine points
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  Uh nines a lot, but I took dallas anyway
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  I figured dallas would blow the seahawks out of the water with how gino has been playing lately
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  And boy was I wrong what a game this was so technically tyler takes the l
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  Um, but technically I took the l2 cowboys only won by six so I didn't cover so
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  That sucks. But anyway, talk about gino for a second. This was the gino smith that we saw last year
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  This gino smith showed up to play 23 for 41 334 three tds and a and a pick
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  But wow did he put on a show his reads were there his connections with the gino smith
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  There his connections with dk metcalfe were ridiculous dk, by the way six receptions 134 yards three tuds
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  On eight targets dk was absolutely ridiculous and all over the field
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  Charbonneau, I mean not not his best game 19 carries 60 yards
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  Which gives us a 3.2 average, but he did have a ton did have a ton in there smith negba
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  Uh again another great game for him. He almost had another deep touchdown, but I believe that was waved off
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  But not all in all not a bad game for the seahawks. Yes. They took the l by six here
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  But that was the gino we've been asking for and waiting to see again and he showed it he showed he's still capable of that qbr of 91.2
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  Still not amazing, but I mean way better than we've seen the last few weeks from gino. That's for sure
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  And again just his his plays to dk. I mean
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  Just go look at it. Just go look at it me talking about it's not going to do anything for you
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  You got to see it yourself
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  The the ball placement for me, um for a lot of dks over the shoulder catches was just on the money
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  You know no offant also three receptions 43 yards
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  He had a huge diving catch another one to go take a look at crazy play
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  He he dives for the ball and as he's catching it
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  He turns his body actually so he knows that ball ain't going to touch the ground and possibly come loose
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  Just a great play all around but ultimately all of that effort was just not enough against his dallas offense man
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  Dak prescott also 29 for 41 which is crazy by the way
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  Both gino and dak both attempted 41 passes in the game. That's kind of wild
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  But dak prescott 29 for 41 299 for three tuds himself not the worst day, but he did take four sacks
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  Um, you got to get that ball out of there
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  You can't you can't continuously take sacks and fours quite a bit to take in one game
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  So you just you just got to get rid of that ball
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  You know what I mean?
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  Um, tony pollard not his best day either 20 carries for 68 yards only a 3.4 average
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  But he did have a tud and I will say this about tony pollard
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  Every time that dude touched the ball this game. It was aggressive
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  He ran downhill and it kind of reminded me a little bit of old school adrian peterson almost running
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  I think he was running angry as I would say like he was just like
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  You just think he's an angry man. I don't know running people over
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  He just looked angry when he ran really aggressive. So yeah, those 68 yards may not seem like a lot
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  But he fought for every yard this week. I really loved seeing that from tony pollard seriously
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  And then you have cd lamb 12 receptions for 116 yards and a tud
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  jake ferguson the tight end six reception 77 yards he came up clutch
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  This dude jake ferguson. I I don't think i've heard of him before obviously. He's probably done some stuff this year
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  I'm not a dallas fan. I despise dallas
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  So far you're learning a lot about me that I despise a lot of teams in nfl, but that's all right
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  Um, I got my reasons for dallas one of them lives in sioux falls south dakota shout out
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  But yeah, ferguson came up clutch dude big third downs coming up with the first down catch. I mean
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  You can't ask for much more. I man i'm curious how many years that kid has been in the league
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  Let me look here. He's 24 years old
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  2022 pick so that would make
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  This year's 23. So this is the second year in the league. Okay, so not not so bad out of wisconsin, of course
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  Uh badgers tyler. I'll wring my neck for that. That's all right, but I do want to talk about the final play of that game
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  I mean
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  the seahawks were driving they they really were and then uh
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  Micah parsons comes up huge on a fourth and two comes in untouched doing micah parsons stuff
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  Hurries to throw that's pretty much it
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  Unfortunately, the seahawks just could not keep up with dallas and dallas again shows that
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  That you know, they're not they're not rolling over, you know, they're nine and three six and oh at home
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  I just noticed that I didn't know dallas was six and oh at home undefeated at arlington this season
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  That's dope. I don't I don't think they were last year
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  I think they had some issues at home if I remember last year, but I could be again. I could be wrong
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  But dallas is trying to challenge for that top spot in the nfc
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  Do I think they're better than the eagles? No, but with what happened in the eagles game, which we'll talk about
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  Do I think dallas can challenge the eagles? Yeah now I do I really do
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  Um, but again, we'll talk about that in a little bit but all in all great game dallas comes out on top again 41 35
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  Game three of five this week was the broncos denver broncos traveling to the houston texans and uh,
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  So tyler took the broncos here who were hot so I don't blame them
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  It was a tough tough matchup texans. I took the texans texans were favorited by three and a half
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  So texans win 22 17 yay me yay texans
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  Texans are seven and five
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  Whoa, if you told me texans are gonna be seven and five at the beginning of the season
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  I straight up wouldn't have believed you and I would have asked you why you're talking to me about football
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  But damn is houston impressing uh cj stroud a little bit off this week to be honest with you 16 for 27
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  274 with the tud also took five sacks again
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  We just talked about it with dac that's just too many
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  You know you got to get and that's part of being a young quarterback. Obviously the rook
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  You got to get rid of that rock man get outside the pocket get rid of it
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  I mean at least he only took 28 yards out of the five sacks
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  So I don't know what that average is off the top just over five probably 5.1 or something. I don't know but uh,
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  5.6. Well, i'm again my math, but anyway, I was at least got five right so again, thanks to kev doing quick math
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  Um, so 5.6 losing per sack. It's just too much man, though
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  I mean that's a drive killer you lose if it's first and 10 you lose five now
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  It's first and fifth or second and 15
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  If it's second and eight and you lose five now, it's third and whatever 13 like that's just not it's unacceptable
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  So you got to get the ball out get rid of it still got the win though
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  But the help kind of came from damien pierce 15 carries 41 yards with the tud
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  only a 2.7 average, but
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  That tud was big and he always came up with the the tough yardage again the the third and twos the the short yardage
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  Situations he was coming up with those first downs. So I know that stat line doesn't sound amazing because it's not um
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  But but it matters it matters the big thing for houston this week
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  Nico freaking collins dude nine receptions 191 yards and a tud but I don't even on 12 targets
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  But I mean none of that really matters. I mean the dude was just open when it mattered, dude
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  Every time cj looked on the field it was either nico collins or brevin jordan almost all game and brevin jordan only had three receptions
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  But they were big every time because nobody covered the guy probably because he hasn't done too much this year
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  But he's not bad. He's not bad
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  But he was wide open like every time and half of nico collins, uh plays wide open
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  I I don't understand. I think two of nico collins with how many touchdowns he have only one
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  Okay, so the one touchdown I thought he had two but
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  Uh one of his touchdown wide open in the back of the end zone
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  I I don't quite understand that at all, but I do want to start bringing up some defense finally
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  Uh will anderson what a game for him two sacks one of them coming up clutch
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  Can't remember when that was I have it in my notes here somewhere
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  But he did come up with a big play late, of course
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  Oh, no, i'm sorry. That was right at the uh
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  Wow, no, i'm all over in my notes here. I apologize
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  But again will anderson just coming up big and big time plays and that's why he was drafted so high
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  Uh, that's what he did at alabama. It's no it's really no surprise what he's doing in the nfl
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  This is what we expected to see another guy doing it at a high level
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  Derrick stingley jr. Another pick for him this week great pick by the way
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  Um, I mean kind of a bad throw but he still made the play still made the play and that's actually his third pick
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  in three games
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  so this dude is
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  Playing at a very high level. I I see a rook this year last year. Let me look real quick
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  I thought it was this year. Nope. I'm wrong
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  Third uh, third overall pick last year. So finally coming into his own a little bit three in a row
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  That's pretty impressive and I think jimmy ward also. Yeah, he did now stingley got two picks. Oh, yeah
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  Yeah, that's right stingley had that ridiculous pick as denver's trying to drive towards the end of the game
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  He comes out of nowhere looks like corlyn sutton's got another touchdown coming his way on like a home run ball
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  And stingley just comes out of nowhere and just picks that shit
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  By the way, if you heard if you heard a noise in the background
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  That's just dunkin the awesome golden retriever in the background dropping his bone just having a good time
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  He's enjoying the pod. Don't worry about it. But yeah, so jimmy ward also gets a pick in there
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  I believe he's safety for the for the texans, but let's talk about denver a little bit russell wilson, man
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  That was that was it wasn't good wasn't good
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  The only good thing ross really did was the 10 carries with 44 yards
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  But that's mostly scrambling because he had to get the hell out of there before he got killed
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  And he also took three sacks this week. So with three picks, it just wasn't a good game for him
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  Um the one main highlight that I will say for russell wilson is his touchdown pass to uh, corlyn sutton
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  Holy cow was that og russell wilson that was some seattle
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  Legion of boom era russell wilson
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  That ball it was a typical rainbow ball russell wilson rainbow ball right to corlyn sun
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  Now don't get me wrong son made a hell of a catch
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  You got another play you got to check out
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  I don't know if I gotta come up with my top five plays you gotta go watch or something a week but like
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  Another play you just have to see it man. What what a pitch and catch to be honest with you
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  But other than that there really wasn't a whole lot going on
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  Javante williams had a decent day 13 carries 46 yards. No tuds though. Just
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  They couldn't get any momentum
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  Denver couldn't they they did nothing in the first half the halftime score was 13 to 3 houston
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  And those three points came at the end of the half for denver if i'm not mistaken
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  Yeah, it did came on a 34 yard field goal right at the half
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  Broncos looked horrible, dude
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  Horrible in that first half and then came out russell wilson throws that rainbow ball
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  I like to call it to corlyn sutton right at right to make it 16 10 houston right back in the game
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  But then wilson on the next drive goes ahead throws a pick to uh, derek stingley
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  But then the next play big play to jerry judy leads him down to like
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  I don't know inside the 10 or whatever wilson quarterback sneaks it now. You're 22 17
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  But unfortunately, that's where it would end up with again
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  Russell wilson, um, you know, he's scrambling around on fourth and two with the game on the line gets the first
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  Now we're looking at third and goal with the clock winding down. We're under 10 seconds at this point wilson escapes a sack
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  Uh another sack and that's where ether has picked jimmy ward with about nine seconds left game over looking at this though
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  Denver could still bounce back from this. Let's see who they got coming up on their schedule here
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  See if this pulls up for me here it is
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  Um, they're away at the charters and then away at the lions now the charters
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  My second favorite team. Thanks to ladanian tomlinson
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  But the charters are dumpster fire right now. So that's a winnable game for the broncos
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  I think they have to go into la and win that game
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  They have to because the next game they're probably not going to win which is in detroit
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  But then they play the patriots
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  And the charters again and then at the raider
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  So really actually the broncos could still sneak into the playoffs here as a wild card
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  So I guess I guess we'll just see how it plays out for them
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  But this this game ain't it for them so they got to figure their shit out to say the least
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  Let's just look at the texans next five real quick at the jets. That's a win at the titans
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  That's probably a win against the browns. I would imagine at this point
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  That's a win unless the browns have miles garrett and they're just feeling themselves, but I don't see it
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  At home against the titans. That's probably a win
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  And then in indy, that's a toss-up. I think indy's still a decent team
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  Yeah, I mean texans definitely have a shot at the afc wild card as well if not winning the afc south
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  With jacksonville's situation brewing, but yeah
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  Texans again get the win 22 17 at home
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  Rolling right into the fourth game here the detroit lions traveled to the new orleans saints
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  Both tyler and I thought the lions would win this game. They were four and a half point favorites
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  And they did lions win 33 28, but the man was at a lot closer than I thought
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  I think tether and I both mentioned last week that we really thought they would handle the handle the saints
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  Well, I mean five points is a lot closer than I thought that barely covered the spread
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  but
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  Honestly, I thought the lions would win by at least two scores, but the saints really battled back
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  So let's kind of dig into that a little more because honestly
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  At the end of the first quarter the detroit lions are up 21 to nothing
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  They were looking to run away with this thing
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  Laporta was looking
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  Ridiculous and he continued it throughout the game. Of course nine receptions 140 yards with a tud
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  Nine receptions on nine targets mind you he caught everything thrown his way
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  But he was also open half of those again. I don't understand
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  New orleans was letting him do all these under
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  Underneath crossing routes and then they got him on a couple deep routes laporta. They just couldn't cover him
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  He was he was uncoverable for that game
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  But you know his quarterback, uh was a little off goff was a little off
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  16 for 25 to 13 two tuds
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  You know, he just he just didn't look right to me
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  I don't know
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  He was feeling himself for sure in that first quarter the whole offense. Hey, why are you doing that?
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  In that first quarter the whole offense it was the whole team was
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  But then they came out flat in that second half. They really did
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  I mean they come out. Let's see come out right away first drive at the half punt
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  You know, um now the next drive after that laporta is wide open, of course for 49 yards
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  But then you kick a field goal. You got to capitalize on these big plays you have to
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  Do now the next drive they did jamison williams end around reverse for 20 yards and then he superman dives into the end zone
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  Boom another play you got to check out the superman dive is worth it super badass
• 23:32
  But jamison williams on the end around reverse for the tud that was pretty crazy
• 23:36
  Um jimmy or gibbs with that big 36 yard run david montgomery finishing it off one two punch
• 23:43
  You know detroit detroit looked the part but that second half is scary
• 23:47
  Again being up 21. Oh at the end of the first. Let's see. What was the halftime score 24 to 7 detroit at half?
• 23:56
  You can't you can't be winning that game 33 to 28 man. You you you got to keep your foot on the gas
• 24:02
  I mean, I don't understand what happened to the defense per se. I think honestly to me
• 24:08
  It's alvin camara. He kind of just kept
• 24:10
  I don't know chipping away at that line's defense. I know he only had 14 carries for 51 yards, but he also had six receptions for 58 yards
• 24:19
  So over a hundred yards total for him on the day and he again he just kept chipping away at him
• 24:25
  You also had tasem hill back there that that gadget player that tyler and I have been talking about 13 carries 59 yards and the tud
• 24:33
  Um, there's also this weird play. Where is it here in my notes? I know I have this there it is
• 24:37
  Taysom hill this was in the third quarter. I believe um
• 24:42
  This gets him to a first and goal tasom hill is back there in the quarterback position
• 24:47
  um
• 24:48
  And then there's this big number 99
• 24:51
  For the new orleans saints. I don't know who that is but big old number 99 sitting back there
• 24:56
  In the backfield with tasom hill and it almost looks like tasom runs a read option with the guy
• 25:02
  99
• 25:03
  uh
• 25:05
  How do you say his name?
• 25:06
  kellen
• 25:08
  Kellen sanders. I'm i'm saying it wrong
• 25:11
  Kailin sanders, maybe I don't want to disrespect. I really don't does it say how what he weighs right there while you have that up?
• 25:18
  Or his his
• 25:21
  What's his height?
• 25:23
  So he's six foot three twenty four this dude is in the backfield. That's why it threw me off
• 25:27
  I was like, holy shit
• 25:29
  Talk about a goal line package reminds me of uh, green bay packers bj
• 25:33
  Raji like what 10 years ago or whatever which is pretty dope using him as a fullback but
• 25:38
  Even if tasom pulls that ball which he did that dude's a great blocker for you
• 25:42
  And then tasom, you know gets the first down gets him to first and goal and then tasom hill sneaks it in
• 25:47
  For a tud brings him within 24 21 at that point in the game
• 25:51
  But again, we we obviously know what happened the rest of the way
• 25:54
  We did see derek car go out of the game for the saints. He did go out with a concussion again
• 25:59
  I don't know if it was last week. I don't think it was last week. He went out with a concussion
• 26:03
  It might have been two weeks ago
• 26:05
  But now that's two concussions in a in a pretty short period of time
• 26:09
  I would imagine he's still in concussion protocol. We'll mention that later
• 26:13
  But I think you got to be careful with him and it's it's not even about the football game
• 26:17
  You know what I mean? It's it's more about the person you got to start taking care of people a little bit
• 26:23
  Worst case jamis winston starts for you next week who came in and went two for five for 41 yards
• 26:29
  Jamis winston stuff
• 26:31
  Uh the saints do travel to the panthers. So I would go ahead and let jamis play that game straight up
• 26:37
  Um now the panthers have nothing to lose
• 26:40
  so
• 26:40
  They're probably gonna come out playing hard. Maybe I don't really know. I nobody really knows what's going on in carolina right now, but
• 26:48
  I don't know man. I would probably let jamis start just be careful with derek man. Don't don't rush him back
• 26:54
  He's already not having a great year
• 26:56
  Uh allegedly when he came out for the game and was announced, you know, they probably announced the vikings do it
• 27:03
  Where they announce the defense or the offense when you go to a game or whatever not both
• 27:07
  And i'm imagining it's the same across the league. I don't know
• 27:10
  So when derek car got announced for the saints on sunday allegedly there was a lot of booing going on
• 27:15
  So who do y'all want?
• 27:17
  I'm just curious saints fans. Who do you guys want quarterbacking your team?
• 27:20
  Are you okay with jamis because if i'm in your shoes I am why not?
• 27:25
  Why not he almost led the saints back to a win against the vikes when he came in
• 27:30
  Yeah, he threw threw one or two picks. I can't remember. I think he went two tugs and two picks
• 27:34
  But I mean that's unfortunately what jamis is going to give you
• 27:37
  I just wish god he's just so much better than that. He really is but whatever moving on
• 27:42
  Crystal lave with five receptions for 119 yards big day for him as always of course
• 27:49
  Um at perry only the one catch. Yeah, it was for 30 yards. I'm pretty sure his big big first down
• 27:54
  But he'd like to see a little more from him get get open buddy. Gotta get open
• 27:59
  Jimmy graham won reception for six yards, but he got that tud good for you back in a new orleans uniform
• 28:06
  Had some stuff earlier in the year
• 28:08
  Good to see jimmy graham back in the end zone though to be honest with you
• 28:11
  But yeah, I mean that's that's really that's really the game as a whole detroit just controlled it and ran away with it
• 28:18
  And then almost lost it so if i'm detroit
• 28:21
  I mean look if you're looking at the quarter breakdown
• 28:25
  Detroit scored 21 in the first three in the second three in the third and six in the fourth
• 28:31
  Dude, it's not how you start the game. It's how you finish no matter what game it is right?
• 28:36
  And they almost lost that shit so if i'm if i'm detroit you got to keep that foot on the gas man
• 28:41
  Stick to what's working stick to what's working in that game. It was laporta and again. He came up big late in the game
• 28:48
  so
• 28:49
  So either way detroit with the win 33 28. Let's see who detroit has the next five just real quick
• 28:57
  We'll wrap this one up for you
• 28:59
  Let's see they traveled to chicago. That's a win. They play the broncos at home
• 29:03
  We kind of already touched on that. I think that's a win for detroit. They play at minnesota
• 29:10
  I want to skip that one
• 29:13
  That could be a win
• 29:14
  Yeah, you know what? I bet detroit wins in minnesota
• 29:17
  Minnesota
• 29:18
  And then they travel to dallas. They will lose that game deck prescott will walk on that defense
• 29:24
  I think and then they play the vikings at home to end the season
• 29:28
  And that's the one they'll lose to the vikes. I think the vikes will split it
• 29:31
  But I think detroit will win in minnesota and minnesota will win in detroit. I don't know gut feeling
• 29:37
  Whatever
• 29:38
  But yeah, so again detroit with the dub 33 28 and move to nine and three new orleans falls to five and seven
• 29:45
  And on to our last game game five of five
• 29:48
  banner at the boys game of the week san francisco 49ers traveling to philly and
• 29:54
  The halftime score you'd thought yeah game of the week for sure
• 29:58
  14 to 6 at halftime san franc was up, but then you look at the final score san franc 42 philly 19
• 30:05
  San franc absolutely destroyed philly at home tyler picked the 49ers. I took the eagles
• 30:12
  49ers were three point favorites, but I figured I don't know it would be close. I figured the eagles would have a chance
• 30:20
  and
• 30:21
  You know, we've been we've been talking about the eagles a lot the past few weeks because they're one of the best in the league
• 30:26
  Right now and one of our main issues with the eagles have been that they haven't played a complete game
• 30:31
  They were saying it themselves. They haven't played a complete game and now they got exposed this week. That's the issue
• 30:38
  The eagles now fall the 10 and 2 and 5 and 1 at home obviously this past weekend be in that one loss
• 30:43
  They don't they don't want to lose at home. Nobody does but
• 30:47
  Unacceptable. I mean for philly seriously though completely unacceptable. I mean jalen hurts 26 for 45
• 30:54
  298 for a tud not bad, but three sacks for 27 yards. That's unacceptable
• 30:59
  Jalen hurts with as mobile as you are you got to get that thing out of there now. Don't get me wrong
• 31:03
  The 49ers defense coming at you with who they are. Maybe three sacks ain't bad
• 31:09
  You know, but there is no rushing game this week for philly and I think that hurt them
• 31:14
  I mean, there's way too many three in outs or maybe get a first down and have to punt
• 31:19
  Just way too much of that. Deandre Swift six carries for 13 yards. Are you shitting me?
• 31:24
  That's not gonna win you a game as a team as a team 18 carries for 46 yards. No
• 31:30
  2.6 as as your average one touchdown that being jalen hurts on a tush push
• 31:37
  Again, that just that's that's why they lost to me. They could I mean don't get me wrong
• 31:42
  Their defense played like garbage and we'll get to that
• 31:46
  But their offense didn't do much because they had no running game. They had nothing. They kept trying to force the ball
• 31:52
  You look look at jalen hurts
• 31:55
  attempts 45 attempts
• 31:57
  And and you tried to run the ball only 18 times. What are you doing?
• 32:01
  What are you doing? Now? I will say with those 26 completions
• 32:05
  Aj brown did have eight of those for 114 yards. He was open most of the game
• 32:11
  Devante Smith doing Devante Smith stuff quick short
• 32:16
  Fella that's that's easy to lose in the defense
• 32:20
  Other than that not much going on for philly offensively serious
• 32:24
  They need to get that run game going. That was a big difference in this game
• 32:29
  and then that philly defense
• 32:32
  you know philly's defense still picked up two sacks, but it just
• 32:37
  Brock Purdy threw all over him straight up. I mean he really did but again
• 32:43
  I don't even want to talk about philly's defense. They just weren't good enough
• 32:46
  They weren't good enough this week and they know that but again when you're going up against that
• 32:49
  Three-headed monster if you will that san fran possesses maybe four-headed now you can you can put purdy in there
• 32:56
  Debo feels like he can you know with purdy and they can win anything
• 33:01
  Purdy went 19 for 27 314 yards four toads
• 33:08
  Stellar day stellar day for purdy debo samuel showing again that that swiss army knife like
• 33:15
  Player that was a little bit of a
• 33:18
  unique player that we were kind of touching on last week
• 33:22
  Four receptions for a hundred and sixteen yards two toads also had three carries for 22 yards and another touchdown
• 33:29
  So debo with three overall touchdowns. I mean he you just put the ball in his hands four receptions for a hundred and sixteen yards
• 33:37
  And one of those plays actually was crazy yak yardage
• 33:41
  Yak again for those that don't know stands for yards after catch
• 33:45
  Let's see well there was the bubble screen at the end of the game that put him up to 42 that was ridiculous
• 33:54
  A short bubble screen kev. I know you don't watch football, but like the bubble screen
• 33:59
  You got two receivers here this one usually blocks for you and this one goes negative yards
• 34:04
  To catch the ball and then you just try to get up field
• 34:07
  Well san fran's entire offensive line came over here to block and he was got I think it was I think it went for 40 yards
• 34:14
  I mean
• 34:16
  If you're if you're a good defense that screen should either be blown up and go for nothing
• 34:21
  Maybe a fumble or you stop him for like five yards
• 34:25
  san francisco showed the perfect example on blocking on that play and debo showed that he
• 34:32
  Can accelerate with the best of them? I mean he's one of the fastest players in the league with the ball in his hands
• 34:38
  Because I know some of you can be like no dude. He's not even top 10 or 15
• 34:41
  You know, that's fine. I'm talking about with the ball in his hands
• 34:43
  There's a difference between straight line speed like tyreek hill who's still fast at the balls in his hands
• 34:50
  Don't get me wrong
• 34:51
  But if you know what I mean though, right like it's different. It's different when the ball's in your hands
• 34:57
  Now we look at christian mcaffery at 17 carries 93 yards big surprise there with the touchdown himself
• 35:04
  Uh, he had another three receptions for 40 yards as well
• 35:07
  Well, but look look at how brock purdy spread the ball around debo four receptions george kittle
• 35:12
  Four receptions one of the best tight ends in the league brandon iuk five receptions one of the most underrated players in the league
• 35:18
  Because of everybody else on his team joan jennings three receptions 44 yards and a tut himself. I mean
• 35:25
  Oh my god purdy was spreading the ball around that defense was absolutely ridiculous and hungry
• 35:32
  I just you know, we had the incident with green law and we'll get into that later, too
• 35:36
  He was ejected as well, but man that bosa
• 35:40
  Chase young I love it chase young put up nothing this week other than a quarterback hit but he's still a threat
• 35:46
  He was in the backfield almost every time
• 35:48
  So a lot of what he did this week doesn't get measured by stats you see it on film
• 35:55
  So now whoever the heck plays san francisco next week is going to be looking at the film like damn
• 35:59
  We still have to block chase young and they go play seattle at home
• 36:04
  That'll actually be a good game if gino's on his money
• 36:07
  I mean 49ers will still win that but if gino's on his money
• 36:10
  It'd be curious to see how the seahawks do play against the 49ers
• 36:13
  But anyway, there's really not a lot to say about this. There's really not I think if you're philadelphia you are extremely concerned
• 36:21
  About the play of your defense
• 36:23
  Seriously, and we again we say it every week. Well, they'll they'll just get better as I play more together and play more together
• 36:29
  Well, that can't be the same shit every week
• 36:31
  And now we're starting to see them get exposed and it happened. So what do they need to do? I don't know
• 36:38
  I have no idea. I'm not in the nfl
• 36:41
  but
• 36:42
  At the end of the day, you're still 10 and 2
• 36:44
  You're still I think they're still the number one seed in the nfc playoffs right now. You're still going to win your division most likely
• 36:52
  But you have a big game next week
• 36:54
  You travel to dallas
• 36:56
  That is a big game
• 36:58
  You have to win that game. I'm sorry
• 37:00
  Actually they play dallas in
• 37:02
  Wait a minute today's wednesday my bad
• 37:04
  I'm totally blank and they do play dallas on sunday my bad
• 37:08
  But yeah, they travel to dallas. That's gonna be a tough game and then at seattle
• 37:14
  Home against the giants home against the cards two easy wins and then at the giants
• 37:18
  So they'll win at least three more games for sure the eagles will
• 37:22
  Well, those next two games
• 37:24
  Those are big that's going to show you kind of what you're what you're looking for at the playoffs
• 37:28
  for philly
• 37:30
  Um, they should be able to beat seattle, but that dallas game. I think that's big for them. It's big for dallas, too
• 37:34
  They're going to be coming hungry. I think dallas is only I know we already talked about them
• 37:38
  I think they're nine and three as well
• 37:40
  So look out. I mean, we'll see but all in all niners showing that they're probably the best
• 37:46
  They don't have the best record in the nfc
• 37:48
  But they're showing right now that they are probably the number one team in the nfc
• 37:54
  Anyway, the 49ers won 42 19 against philly at home in philly my bad
• 38:00
  So that wraps up week 13 recap now
• 38:04
  I know we've been telling you guys the last two weeks that we were going to have a record like a standings
• 38:10
  You know between tyler and I and who knows what the hell they're talking about who doesn't um for the season
• 38:16
  But again, uh since tyler was sick this week. I did have to prepare to rip this by myself
• 38:20
  So I did not have a chance to do it. I apologize
• 38:24
  So next week, I swear I don't care if i'm doing it while I watch my vikes play this weekend or what but we will get you an overall standing so you know who to make fun of
• 38:34
  But as far as this week goes as far as week 13 goes tyler went three and two and I went two and three so
• 38:40
  You know, i'm now i'm curious i'm curious what the overall standings look like but we'll have something for you next week. Don't worry
• 38:46
  911 what's your emergency
• 38:50
  And here we go with some tent talk now uh starting with the injuries as we always do
• 38:56
  Jacksonville had a couple losses this week. Um, not only did they lose the game
• 39:00
  They lost their starting quarterback trevor lawrence to a high ankle sprain. However, two days later he was already walking without a boot on
• 39:10
  So he is questionable for this week. Um, so maybe you see cj bethard start. We don't know yet
• 39:16
  So who knows that could be a game time decision if I was Jacksonville
• 39:20
  I'm playing the browns this week who are already kind of on that lower tier playoff team because of injuries as well
• 39:28
  I don't know. I think i'd maybe let cj bethard do it and see what happens if you know you can have trevor lawrence for sure the week after
• 39:38
  Against the ravens on i think that sunday night football even so you're gonna need them against the ravens
• 39:44
  So if you have a chance to just wait it out just do it i think unfortunately which sucks because you really needed to win last week against the bangles
• 39:52
  You lost 34 31 now you're at the browns and then home against the ravens. Thank god. That's a home game, but it's still not looking still not good
• 40:02
  Not good. So they need trevor lawrence back. We'll just see what happens. I don't think he'll play this week though
• 40:08
  I really don't for everything i'm seeing i'd i don't know if i could even say i'd expect him back against baltimore
• 40:14
  Let's say we hope to see him back against baltimore but another Jacksonville injury injury. Wow. What did i say injurely?
• 40:22
  Another Jacksonville injury christian Kirk receiver obviously likely needs core muscle surgery that blows
• 40:32
  For anybody six to eight weeks he could miss so i guess we'll see what happens with that but if Jacksonville makes a deep playoff run
• 40:40
  They are saying they do expect Kirk to potentially come back but i guess that that determines that depends on what happens with trevor lawrence too
• 40:49
  You know so it's ah who knows who knows we could see christian and kirk back this year we might not so unfortunately core muscle surgery for him
• 40:57
  Frank rag now the center for the lions is kind of iffy for sunday but he kind of got quote good news after his mri
• 41:05
  Campbell said today dan Campbell being Campbell said today he is doing good however today being wednesday when we're recording this
• 41:15
  Which is what december 7th i think no six tomorrow's the day that lives in infamy um he did not practice today so that is kind of a downer
• 41:25
  But i don't know i guess we'll see more of a game time decision for frank rag now tank dell uh having a decent year man tank dell having a decent year
• 41:37
  But unfortunately that year is over he has had successful ankle surgery but his season is done not much else to say there that is a loss for the texans
• 41:49
  But you did see nicole collins step up and um brave and jordan so that's a big that's a big deal for them you need damian pierce to run the ball a little more but i think you'll be alright
• 41:59
  Next uh next on our little injury list here puka i can't remember if it's nicoa i think it is puka nicoa um ac joint sprain uh but he is apparently supposed to play on sunday
• 42:11
  Limited practice today but they expect him to play so for all you fantasy people um sounds like you can leave him in your lineup but i guess that's on you
• 42:21
  You know if he goes out halfway through the game i don't know what to tell you you'll be down in the dumps like me in fantasy i don't know whatever
• 42:28
  Um jaron baker linebacker for the dolphins mcl injury sucks will not go to ir though so he's more of a week to week situation for the dolphins um they're hoping he gets back quicker than they think
• 42:43
  But i don't know we'll see so the dolphins brought in four players today to work out i think it was today or yesterday um to work out at the linebacker position
• 42:53
  Uh reuben foster was one of those players so i'm curious if we'll see a reuben foster return to the nfl uh he was brought in for a workout as well he did just play in the usfl last year
• 43:04
  For no my god i can't remember the pittsburgh maulers i think their team name is but he was a former first-round pick out of alabama in 2017 confirmed pittsburgh maulers he played for
• 43:16
  But yeah former first-round pick out of bam in 2017 i think he was a higher perk yeah he said first round cheese but he was third in defense of rookie of the year voting that year
• 43:26
  But then after that not much else man he had a good year as rookie year and then after that got into some off the field trouble and ultimately was cut by san francisco i believe it was i believe washington then picked him up
• 43:40
  Um looking to you know maybe start a new i don't know new new life in the nfl maybe after all that off the field stuff and then boom suffers an acl tear in the off season for washington
• 43:53
  So he had that repaired and you know got in shape went to the usfl last year where he did record 53 tackles half a sack and he did score a defensive touchdown so i mean 53 tackles isn't horrible um i guess we'll see maybe he did enough to get a job maybe he didn't
• 44:12
  I would assume that's just until jerome baker's back and then maybe they try to wave them and then sign them to practice squad i don't know i'm an idiot when it comes to contract shit but whatever jerome baker week to week
• 44:28
  Derek car obviously we talked about him already still in that concussion protocol he kind of also has a rib injury going on too so he's he's on the men man their cars a little rough right now jay james price start if Derek car can't go and again i believe i looked right they play the panthers this week i believe
• 44:48
  So if that's true i would just start james man like seriously why not why not um if you're the saints you don't really need to you already paid their car all that money the fans already hate them allegedly i wouldn't send them out there all injured and battered up let them go back out there 100%
• 45:06
  Unfortunately another quarterback to talk about kenny pickett pittsburgh steelers he's still yet to undergo ankle surgery i don't know if he's had it yet today or what but he will not be put on ir even with ankle surgery so the steelers are kind of hoping he could be available for week 18 but his is kind of like that
• 45:29
  four to six weeks too so they are planning to not have kenny pickett for a month which would mean most likely mitch trabyski gets to start again which actually is pretty dope i think mitch trabyski is not that bad of a quarterback he's probably one of the best backups in the league
• 45:45
  so he needs to take this opportunity to show the rest of the league what he's got maybe he could start for a lower level team i don't know but i guess we'll see we'll see what mitch has and then most likely mason rudolph will be backing mitch trabyski up but i don't know mason personally but he just does not seem like the human being i would hang out with
• 46:07
  and then finally to end the injury seg here in the tent talk christian watson he did kind of if you watch the game he did kind of take a knee people thought maybe he was taking a knee to just stay in bounds keep that clock running but he did grab at that right hamstring which if you remember was why he missed the first three games of this season was due to a right hamstring injury
• 46:34
  and again it looks like he has possibly re aggravated that so we don't quite know what his outlook is there's not really a solid update out there i don't even think the packers know what's going on i mean the packers have five games left like everybody else includes the giants which is probably a win actually for the packers
• 46:55
  tampa bay that could be a win panthers that could be a win the vikes and the bears so i guess we'll just see you know the the packers need need the rest of their receivers to really step up in the absence of christian watson i mean you'll see guys like jaden reed dontavian wicks romeo dobs they got they got a they got to step it up they got to step it up and you saw that this week with romeo dobs so i and i think you will see that with jaden reed as well especially with
• 47:25
  christian watson is down i don't know i think they'll be okay without him as we've discussed again he's not a true number one but you want him on the field so with that we move right into the kind of more of the news of the nfl as everyone knows obviously joe flacco got signed to the cleveland browns practice squad but he was elevated and did start actually last week against the los angeles rams um yeah he didn't look good 23 for 44 250 for
• 47:55
  two tuds in a pick but 19 points is abysmal amari cooper three receptions for 34 yards that's your guy man so if he's getting 34 yards nah nah you have elijah more there too but it's just not not good enough so unfortunately joe flacco is back to the practice squad and so starting quarterback has yet to be named for the game against jacksonville which again jacksonville is probably starting a different quarterback too so i would assume cleveland will probably start pj
• 48:25
  walker and you're probably going to see pj vs cj uh on sunday but i i don't know i don't know so i guess we'll see shack leonard finally signed with somebody signed with the eagles just as tyler and i kind of talked about last week um yeah i guess it was more tyler i'm kind of stealing a thunder i guess but he said it was probably going to be the eagles or the cowboys and actually jerry jones came out with a thing today that just said you know what a unique time in the nfl this is and everybody was like
• 48:55
  oh he's salty he didn't sign shack leonard no no uh and i'm not a big jerry jones fan i seen him for one time in real life when the super bowl was here and that dude was tall as shit actually so real quick tangent my bad and i'll go back i swear to god but jerry jones has got to be like 6364 like tall dude walked into this hotel i can't remember why i was there but he walked into this hotel and literally dude this dude's walking up to his hotel room and all the dallas cheerleaders followed him i'm dead ass dude it was the wildest
• 49:25
  thing i've ever seen he's six foot no way that's bs google's lying google's lying because that dude was tall now i am five seven but that dude was tall bro and wearing like some cowboy boots and everything dude and dressing like all black dude he just looked like he looked like business yeah dude and then he had like all the cheerleaders following him it was just kind of funny i was like that was pretty wild but anyway so back on what he kind of said he was just saying how it's a unique time and by that he means like
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  it's crazy that you can just sign a player and they could play on sunday because dallas plays philly on sunday so they'll probably as hard as they were trying to get him to sign with them now they're going to see him on the field on the other team on sunday so he's just saying how unique it is that a player can sign get up to speed and play on sunday now i'm assuming it's a little bit easier for defense but nfl defenses are so complex like way more than people think so
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  but anyway lennard signs a one-year deal with the eagles kind of for that playoff push waiting for zac cunningham we'll see what happens if he's a depth player for them when cunningham comes back that's great for the eagles they need that they need some veteranish leadership i think he's still only 25 26 years old maybe maybe he could be a little older than that but again a little more veteran in that lot in that young defensive locker room other than sleigh i guess uh adrian amos real quick not really worth mentioning
• 50:55
  much but he does clear waivers he's now a free agent so if somebody needs a safety i guess he's available the jets have released tim boyle after two starts so there's kind of some weird shit with with the jets right now and that kind of leads a little bit into the our
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  quote-unquote rogers watch um allegedly rogers had and i wish tyler was here because he'd be all over this shit right now i know it but like allegedly somebody in the building for the jets kind of i don't know if they leaked the conversation for rogers more or less twisted to what rogers said to whoever right rogers doesn't know somebody leaked this shit but basically i allegedly rogers told somebody that wilson doesn't really want to start for the jets or play right now because
• 51:42
  you know the jets are horrible so he doesn't really want to get injured doesn't want to get smacked around and who does right so i don't know i think that's i don't know rogers came out pissed on the i think it was the pat mcaffey pat mcaffey show um i don't know i i i honestly got to look at that more it's kind of interesting maybe we'll talk about it more next week but as far as we know tim boyle is released and as of like this morning i think uh wilson is going to be starting for the
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  jets this weekend so i don't know maybe a bunch of crap but the jets did sign brett ripen or whatever off seattle's practice squad that's not the move so if you are friends with zac wilson i would just start that dude please because if you're if you're the jets because brett oh brett ripening ain't it and as far as rogers watch goes i mean really nothing really came out this week as far as i'm aware other than kind of the weird new york jets internal bs um and again
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  maybe we'll talk about that a little bit more in depth but as far as we know he's still kind of eyeing up that christmas eve projection if the jets are still in playoff contention which i mean at the moment they probably won't be they play houston this week that's probably an l unfortunately for the jets and to think that they were just a quarterback away to be honest and now they're sitting at four and eight probably gonna be four nine after this weekend which would be one two three four five six l's in a row and then they play the dolphins after
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  that in miami that's probably an l2 so unfortunately the jets i don't think we'll see rogers this season to be honest with you um because yeah if they're not in playoff contention why why but now does this start a new rogers watch a rogers watch of you gotta trade me now because that was some bs that you leaked my freaking conversation within the organization so i don't know maybe that's something new to watch now but that's pretty much it for tent talk this week and uh yeah hopefully we have no injuries
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  next week because that's never a fun part of the game yo welcome back again uh it's still me you're still stuck with me um for bonehead of the week though so that's fun um allegedly one of tyler's favorite seg so that's great but also joining me is the guy that i kept referring to all freaking episode looking shit up for me real quick kev what's up everybody how we doing so kev doesn't really watch football he did this weekend though you watched the packer
• 54:12
  game i did i'm from wisconsin born or eight so i'm just like by association a packers fan but i don't watch every game every week also living in minnesota they're not always on and i'm not as diehard as you guys paying for like nfl red zone and crazy shit like that so i'm definitely not going to be putting money into that but if it's on it's on and i happen to catch this game i guess i can't blame you too much because guilty by association is part of the law too so like whatever like if you really want to like watch the pack i guess that's what you go back go hey i i have a rogers jersey but i'm
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  also oh my god i've had it for five years and i've worn it two times in my life kev granted it was to the office but i got a lot of hate for that at the corporate no shit yeah good good yeah yeah yeah yeah for sure it's yeah no pack no is what we like to say in minnesota but anyway so um weird week this week for bonehead so we had three players kind of break out of their you know i mean you're kind you know when you're a professional athlete you're kind of you're critiqued on everything
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  on the field off the field doesn't matter if it's football baseball hockey uh what am i what am i missing the basketball court thank you for the four major sports but like you're critiqued on everything so this week we're going to talk about three players that decided their fists were part of the game we'll start with the least controversial and kind of work our way up from there because it gets into really interesting so sorry you probably just heard the click of my pen there but uh so the first one is
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  kind of the game that you actually watched right so pacheco i think it was right after he fumbled the ball if i'm not mistaken and so he fumbles the ball and then gets up and i'm sure you know they didn't kansas city didn't expect to lose that game so i'm sure he's frustrated the whole team was pissed it was clear that there was some aggression happening throughout that game from my my take on it the team wasn't happy of how the game was playing out so we're trying right right right so your main sport that you watch is hockey you got where it's totally allowed to punch somebody in the face but
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  you're gonna get it back yep and it's legal but as far as like staying even in the heat of the game right you're frustrated you're losing the game you obviously want to win the game you're but like in the heat of the game you still got to stay under control of yourself absolutely so what do you what do you think of that just witnessing it you know you don't really watch football obviously you know punching people in the face or rather the helmet and hurting your hand probably most likely but like you know that's not part of the game what do you think like seeing that it fits in this segment a hundred
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  thousand friggin percent bonehead move of the week that i watched the play over and over again they talked about it they had it was so funny watching it live they had to do four different like takes of it to actually see what happened because it was obviously behind the player you fumbled right after yeah yep so they're always every every camera goes to the guy running down the field yeah but to me it was it was so dumb don't get me wrong i'm a i'm a sucker for a battle these guys were going at it right like they they weren't just like yeah you like your hockey fights yeah don't get me wrong i love someone getting punched in the face but this was just a bonehead move
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  i thought it was really stupid and of course he gets booted out of the game and again i don't really watch football very often but pretty confident he's their number one running back you can't have him no yeah for sure no sorry sorry i was blanking for so yeah yeah for sure you need him in the game you can't have him just get booted and he just happily trotted off the field like oh we're getting our you know we're not getting our asses kicked like we're losing i could possibly be helpful in this game i'm gonna punch someone in the fucking face and be done with it for the game like stupid move really really dumb i get there's heat of battle
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  heat of the moment i understand that but where's the self-control you mentioned these athletes are top tier they're always being viewed and under a microscope or under like the spotlight in every aspect of their life punch someone in the face you're gonna get called for that it's just stupid play just a stupid freaking play that i don't think it cost his team the game but he was a pivotal point he's a pivotal player on their team they could have certainly have used him no i like everything you said i don't again right right like you said it probably didn't cost them the game
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  but he's a main player like you gotta have him on the field so it's just a bad move it's a bad move all the way around so the next bonehead move is the exact same bs and then guess what the one after that is the exact same bs so ufc this past dude seriously so the second one which is slightly more controversial brian burns of the panthers he was ejected yeah excuse me wow sorry it's the end of the pod man i'm tired um all this talking by myself anyway
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  he was ejected for punching uh the bucks guard cody mack mac whatever in the head he ended up saying uh quote so yeah the emotions got the best of me okay boom right there that it kind of explains the situation you know he let the emotions get the best of him he let the emotions control him in that moment um you gotta have control you do and i do believe that this player burns here brian burns i'm talking about uh i believe that's his first ejection ever so you know out of character for him
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  but he did say uh you know obviously the media kept pestering him right like was it a racist thing did he say something wild you know like and they but they kept pestering him and he kept giving the same answer like quote he said something he shouldn't have said so who knows everybody's gonna speculate that right so the media does right they get an inch they're going for the mile i get it and that's what they're doing but guess what he's giving you an answer accept that answer and move the f on if you're the media like you know like i hope brian burns the next time
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  if he's asked about this incident next week which now you're a week removed if he's asked about this incident next week i kind of hope he's just like pulls the marsh on lynch i was like i'm i'm just here so i don't get fine because that's part of their contract they have to deal with media and blah blah blah i've seen those interviews it's pretty funny so like i i and you know i i'd get sick of at you know being asked that over and over and over again um but people just wanted to know what was said to cause you to act out of emotion but all in all like he made a mistake he owned up to it
• 1:00:12
  he's sorry for it but if there was something said like that's the thing you never know because i watched this i just watched it right now live again i watched the highlight of it before and i watched it again just now he decked this guy like the play was over he wasn't nearly even near him i don't know if the what he said was directed at him or at somebody else or just like said like in the the scrum if you will of the ref trying to pull everybody out but he cracked this guy so and he punched him in the third quarter if i'm not mistaken right after like a fugal attempt or whatever
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  i think it's the third is it the third there yeah third quarter four minutes ago so he he said allegedly he said allegedly that somebody he didn't say cody for sure i'd assume it was this cody guy because he's the one that got punched but like he said that he said something in the first half so this dude it was festering got it so it must be something enough that it kept replaying over and over in his head and he snapped right again gotta stay under control but to what to what point though if this dude is
• 1:01:12
  coming at you i i don't want to talk politics or race on the show but if he's coming at you in that sense that's unacceptable agreed now to that point then would the referees ever step in because they're all in the house better scrum here right i would assume there's a policy in some i mean everybody's players helmet says stop the hate and stuff like that so you'd assume that if something like that was said at the referees either make an adjustment or you know make take action fix that or let the players handle themselves like a hockey game in this case
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  either it was said the first half nobody heard it and just this guy did or it was said before everybody heard it nothing was done he's like screw i'm taking manage into my own hands and then if that's the case i don't blame this guy for cracking the dude in the shit but again we'll never know unless someone's mic'd up and the audio gets leaked like the rogers thing so you never know so again like the controversy continues we won't know and we all we have is what he said quote again we'll leave it with this quote he said something he shouldn't have said very interested to see what happens yeah anyway panthers in the blue
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  using that game twenty one to eight so again he was he frustrated about the game and maybe not because they are only a one win team this year well it's also five minutes left in the third quarter there's still a lot of football left but again it's the fact that it was said in the first half so like he was thinking about it like dude this is just like something there something that mr cody here said something that's unacceptable yeah i want has he publicly commented about what was said cody yeah i don't know that's a good question let's see let's see if he did come out and say anything
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  if it was known that he cracked him in his shit for a reason and it's like well hey dude you said something in the first half what did you say i mean it to you know to his point if he's you know the one that said something he's probably not going to be obviously the crazy racist and like yep i said x y and z so this is allegedly what what cody said he was asked if he's ever been involved in a situation like that and allegedly explained his side of the story let's see this is from what's the source yeah that's what i mean i want to cite my source you
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  know i'm saying this is from all panthers fn so it must be a panthers fan page so i don't know but let's see here uh this was this quote was taken from a video posted by i don't know her name eline hinatuk i'm not even gonna say her last name i don't want to mess it up but it's the mbc the tampa affiliate so this quote was taken from their mbc's video allegedly on the panther this panther fan page so we can take we can take this how we whatever yeah take the great assault so coming from us directly
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  so quote cody says nothing like that no i mean you talk a little bit to each other but no nothing like that i'm assuming they probably asked him if it was some sort of racial remark or whatever yeah that was a new experience but it was fun i liked it he had been talking a bunch which it happens and you're kind of in it in the pile and you don't know what's going on to have going to happen so you try to push him out of the pile a little bit and i guess i was just a guy he retaliated against so was that the case in the video you saw where they kind of
• 1:04:12
  getting up off the pile no yeah you know i i think it's i think it's more i think it's more targeted like burns knew what he was doing so this is what burns said in this same article he said burns says i want to apologize to my team my family for conducting myself that way never been ejected from a game especially for doing something like that emotions got the best of me one of one of the uh oh dude no he came right up to him he he looked for him he knew he was coming yeah so anyway he goes on to say one of the offensive
• 1:04:42
  lineman said something in the beginning that he shouldn't have said to me and marquez uh hain senior and ever since then i was pretty much on 10 so he was pissed okay makes sense the next three word sentence i was mad okay i should have kept reading um some events happened we got scored on the game wasn't going our way initially it wasn't even my fight i just got pushed and i turned around and reacted i take accountability so maybe cody didn't even push him maybe if somebody else had touched him or whatever but it probably wasn't a push it
• 1:05:12
  was probably more of like a touch or a barely of a shove and like if he's already on 10 that was it that was like the last straw you know this is the boiling point was the straw that broke the camel's back is the expression right it's just the one little feather whatever the little tiny thing that just yeah sets you over the edge yeah looking at the video again like i said they're all kind of showing outside like the scrum and he wasn't really involved in it and it looks like he just came over and just straight cracked this dude so who knows man who knows what will happen we'll see to your point if he gets asked about it again next week after the other guys i hope not just move on from it they
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  both seem like they're cool and want to move on from it just move on but the media will be media they may continue to pester this to see if there's something more there no no doubt no doubt we'll see what happens next so unfortunately we do have one more to talk about and this one is probably one that everybody has heard about drey green law with the san francisco 49ers he i believe he was the one to suplex
• 1:06:12
  vante smith into the turf to which most people were upset now did he need to suplex him into the turf no was he in bounds for the most part yes so i don't know it could be unnecessary roughness but that's it right everybody gets up you get 15 yards that's it well according to mr. big dom they call him de sandro i believe he is the eagles like head of security on the sideline something like that
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  basically he's a part of their i don't want to say coaching staff a part of the philadelphia eagles staff in general someone on the line somebody on the line yeah yeah yeah so so he was there and you're watching it now have you seen this one yet this first one i haven't seen this one i saw the last the first one i've seen the first game in the last one i saw it in a highlight video earlier so the video you're watching now does it show the hit that green law puts on the player no it does not which is davante smith before okay let me go back and find that video real fast continue on yeah so basically green law suplexism i'm pretty sure it's green law
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  and then oh yeah right here okay he definitely gave him a little extra wwe move there for sure he definitely throws him on on the ground there people kind of the player shove and now dom comes up out of nowhere now that was dumb personally for him to get involved in that hundred percent and there's rules against that there is you know you you're a non-player you shouldn't be touching right other players especially of the other team i'm sure it's okay to like touch your players not punch them in the face but like you know or push them or whatever
• 1:07:42
  yeah i'm sure i'm sure that's cool right sure now let's let's look at it from the beginning i know this is going a bit long but it's worth it though it's it's just interesting that three of them happen this week that's why it's the bonehead move of the week for all three guys but so look at the play as a whole drake green law suplexism or whatever gets up and then him and davante smith are kind of going at it now big dom comes in and out of nowhere and pushes green law back well green law freaks out about the push
• 1:08:12
  which is barely a shove he does shove him he does yeah but it's barely a shove and now green law quote unquote punches him right it's not really a punch either and everybody's like oh he punched him no he didn't dude he he he punched him but it more or less like kind of grazed the side of his face and it wasn't hard right like no he stuck his arm out completely straight yeah but like it was more or less like he like rubbed his nose and his cheek you know what i mean like it was a very brisk like right there you just saw he so to your
• 1:08:42
  point he barely made contact it depends on your version of a punch if you're talking the burns punch from a minute ago that's a fucking punch which probably hurt his hand more than the player because he punched a helmet his face mask he has a glove on but i know usb gloves but i guarantee you green law could have kicked big dom's ass if he needed to you know what i mean i feel like he held back on that so his arm was fully extended so i wonder what would have happened had he had better aim for sure also is he not to get into like fighting tactics is he a left hand or right hand dominant person
• 1:09:12
  he just throw it whatever he can like because you know to the credit of the of what actual contact was made he grazed his nose like is like the front of his knuckles and then like kind of barely made contact with like the right side of the dude's cheek so like there was contact made on this unnecessary uncalled for whatever you want to say but in the act of like saying you got punched in the face yeah and i mean at this point in the game the game was pretty out of hand at this point anyway like philly's gonna
• 1:09:42
  be frustrated in general but like green law deserves to get ejected which happened yes you just punched a non-player personnel on their side like you cannot do that you're ejected they ejected dom as well desandro or whatever i don't know how to say his name big dom right big dom yeah i'm just gonna keep calling him big dom no no no no head of security oh that's yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but if you saw philadelphia's head coach nick serrini or whatever he comes up to you don't see nick touch
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  a single san francisco player he's kind of in the scrum too on the outside looking in but he doesn't touch nobody he knows yeah he's probably pulling his guys back or just like saying like don't be stupid get the heck back pretty much i i would think so yeah so anyway so big dom i just like saying it like that he's a big guy though dude he's a big dude yeah yeah yeah so he gets ejected much to philly fans delight though that's the annoying part they were cheering they were going nuts which am i if i'm
• 1:10:42
  a philly fan and i'm lit you know having a good time at the game or getting killed but that happens and your security guy gets ejected okay i'm trying to look at it from that point like an entertainment point like oh yeah hell yeah like that would be fun but like well think about it from like the like a he's not he's like a local he's rocky now he's a local hero to those people yeah well we're thinking about from like a hockey's perspective because like hockey is what i know that'd be like the equivalent of like the the guy that hands you a stick when you broke your stick if he comes over and yanks somebody off the pile that happens on the bench and you're just getting your ass it'd probably be
• 1:11:12
  crazy right as a fan you'd be lit you know i see them get involved but to your point he shouldn't have been involved that's a bonehead move no bonehead move so both ejected green law ended up getting a 15 yard unnecessary roughness here's the funny part really quick to wrap this all up so they they review the play right to determine ejection at that point like whoa there's a punch zone now we have to review it now whether that's the refs on the field or new york or whoever the f is doing it right um
• 1:11:42
  but after the players reviewed according to i think this is rule 19 i don't know how many effing rules there are whatever fact check me that's fine but um rule 19 or something i wrote my notes i don't even know but it says a non-player can't be given a flag post-play so if they review a call right they can still give a player a flag after reviewing which is which is also bs by the way but but you know if it's something serious whatever
• 1:12:12
  like targeting i'm sure that's that's how targeting comes up is after the review right you can see it live but whatever all right we're going on tangent but um uh they can flag a non-player so they can flag mr big dom in real time but that's legal but they can't do it after right did they do it after no they didn't and that's the problem that some san francisco fans are having now they won the game and blah blah blah but they're like we got an ejection and we got a 15 yard penalty where's
• 1:12:42
  their 15 yard bench penalty or whatever it may be 10 yard penalty i can't remember what it is but where's their penalty where's that where's their side of it yeah they just had their head of security ejected that's it so that's that's the big thing with that one that's kind of controversial so i'm curious i'm curious if we'll end up uh they're already saying there's like a new big dom rule going it going into place about like non-player personnel on the sideline and penalties and all this crap i haven't really looked too far into it yet but like
• 1:13:12
  it's just interesting it'll be you know to see what happens in the future for that bonehead move he didn't need to get involved like to your credit though if the other team's fans are pissed off that they got penal they got penalized versus the team did not when like you said rule 19 or whatever yeah can't you can't do that it should have been called in the moment and they should have been probably been offset or whatever the difference was a five yard delta whatever it would have been um it should have been called so i mean granted they won the game regardless but in the event of being
• 1:13:42
  there i'm into your point they reviewed this over and over and over again they looked at it no they looked at it now we'll see going forward if isaiah pacheco brian burns drake green law we'll see if any of those guys get i'm sure they're all getting fines um because that's the no fun league nfl yeah um but like we'll see if they get suspended any games i don't really see any of them suspension worthy maybe brian burns just because i said that one because he seemed targeted to me like that seemed well he
• 1:14:12
  admitted it was targeted because he meditated you know what i mean like and like you said he he he uh admitted to it you know but like the green law one i could see maybe a game suspension because it's a non-player personnel but then that dude better be suspended from the sideline for a game too big dom well that's the thing it was a it was a retaliation thing because the big dom dude pushed the guy first and we're not okaying the retaliation of punting somebody in the face if you want to even call it a punch we've already been over that but like a little baby swipe yeah baby swipe
• 1:14:42
  with a fist but i don't i don't know all in all at the end of it all three of them are boneheads you gotta you gotta keep your emotions in check especially on the field but off the field too so like you just gotta keep keep your emotions in check i agree i agree thanks so much for having me on this little sex man here buddy i appreciate it dude yeah absolutely at least you're not the bonehead not yet we'll see how the edit turns out oh shit and now for our week 14
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  slates thank god my vikings are back this week but uh they gotta win but anyway let's just start off with the packers like we always do which i don't know why we always start with the packers for recap and predictions that's kind of bs but anyway um so green bay travels to the new york giants this week um tyler picks that as a win for the packers uh green bay is a six and a half point favorite i will also take the packers i with the way the packers offense is going right now um i think that's a good chance
• 1:15:42
  good win there it's a monday night game um you know packers are technically the seventh seed in the playoffs right now they have something to play for and i think you'll see another dub this weekend moving on to the vikes my vikes traveling to vegas i really actually wanted to go to that game low key because flights in vegas aren't that ridiculous but kev guess how much tickets were for nosebleeds for that game in vegas 400 i couldn't believe it i was like even if i
• 1:16:12
  just like had a quick trip to like go out there and see the vikes playing vegas i want to see their stadium it looks super dope but 400 bucks for nosebleeds no i didn't so anyway no shit no shit so i want to see a night's game there too but that's another pod but anyway so uh tyler takes my vikings who are a three point favorite this weekend i will also be taking my vikings of course uh romeo daub's uh wow not romeo daub's my bad packers on the brain unfortunately
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  josh jobs has been named the starter for the vikings this week despite his six turnovers the last two games um but they changed the scheme up a little bit so we'll see uh i guess what what they really changed if they're they're allegedly playing the daub's strengths now so i guess we'll see what koc came up with the next game is borderline game of the week it's not for the banter the boys crew but it's borderline um we have the buffalo bills heading to k-12
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  kansas city kansas city is only a one and a half point favorite tyler's going with the chiefs i really want to go with the chiefs i i actually think mahomes and company could win another super bowl this year if i'm being quite honest with you they're that good buffalo coming out of the buy though i think they're going to be ready to play i think they know they're on the outside looking in to be honest with you let's see the bills are actually the 11th seed
• 1:17:42
  right now in the afc so they got to climb four spots to even have a shot at the uh at the playoffs right now with the dolphins leading the afc east by such a long shot so they're right there in it though they're only a game back of the cults for the seven seed for a wild card so i think buffalo comes out strong i'm picking buffalo here i know it's crazy in kansas city but with that kansas city lost a green bay that's concerning but they do go back to their home crowd guess we'll see what happens
• 1:18:12
  and then we have the colts traveling to cincinnati tyler taking the colts here and this is another interesting matchup cincinnati i'm sorry the colts are favorited by one and a half points um hmm tyler goes with indy i'm gonna go with cincinnati i think jake browning is playing really well right now and actually kind of trying to keep those bangles relevant you know they pulled off the dub last week i believe um so yeah
• 1:18:42
  i would say jake browning is just better than whoever the hell the colts are sending out there right now which i don't even know i don't know that'll be a good game good noon noon game so if you're up early enough watch that one and then last but not least sunday night football banner of the boys game of the week talking about the freaking eagles again but the eagles travel to dallas tyler takes the eagles here dallas is a three and a half point favorite and i think dallas is gonna win
• 1:19:12
  that game for sure end cover i think dallas is kind of hot right now they look really good dak is dak looked comfortable man on sunday he honestly he just the way he carried himself he was he was feeling himself late in the game um the way he was kind of strutting around the pocket if you dare say strut um when you're playing the game but like he felt so comfortable man like i i don't see i think dallas could actually for once be a contender this year and not just a pretender
• 1:19:42
  um i think they're a little more than regular season so i'm going with dallas so it looks like tyler and i split on three games i almost agreed with him on that buffalo kansas city game but okay let's make it interesting disagree so as always i know this is a lengthy one if you're still here with me i appreciate you i know tyler appreciates you kevin appreciates you coming on the show um as always make sure you like comment subscribe do whatever you got to do yeah till next time this has been smelty on banner with the boys
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  don't forget to follow like and subscribe tune in next time for more banter with the boys