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Curt Hogg on Brewers start, Chourio's growth, Freddy P value · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: I don't have a ton of guys kept beyond this
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  Speaker 1: year as well, mister Cortez free agent, bring the Woods,
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  Speaker 1: that will be a free agent again. They're gonna need
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  Speaker 1: some arms and Freddy Paul has been really reliable. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess no on a trade at this point.
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  Speaker 2: And you know Scott Boris, who's well known agent I
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  Speaker 2: was talking to yesterday because Scott might have noticed that
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  Speaker 2: we needed some pitching, and he had a player he thought,
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  Speaker 2: one of his we should sign who's gonna throw a
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  Speaker 2: bullpen for us, But he had a bat that was
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  Speaker 2: very similar.
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  Speaker 3: Hmm.
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  Speaker 4: He has a guy who's gonna throw a bullpen for them.
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  Speaker 4: That was I think two days ago from the Armor,
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  Speaker 4: Mark Ottanasio. We'll ask Kurt Hog about it when he
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  Speaker 4: joins us in two minutes when we're back from commercial break.
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  Speaker 4: I hinted at this yesterday. I mean, there's really only
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  Speaker 4: two guys left unsigned that Boris has that our pitcher,
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  Speaker 4: Spencer Turnbull, who was really good last year, and you
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  Speaker 4: weren't on the show yesterday. I saw this joke might
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  Speaker 4: work again. Kratz, Joey Gallo, who's going to pitch now?
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it's him.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, Joey G's he was throwing. Hold on, I gotta
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  Speaker 5: look back on the text.
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  Speaker 4: He sent me about him throwing gas.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, did he tell me ninety five the other day?
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  Speaker 5: That was that was March sixteenth? So wait, that was
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  Speaker 5: a couple.
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  Speaker 6: Of weeks ago.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, ninety five.
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  Speaker 4: Good.
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  Speaker 3: So is he on the PG circuit? Now? Is he
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  Speaker 3: on the perfect game circuit where he's gonna go around
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  Speaker 3: like showcases and I brought my glove and I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: throw the balls hards again?
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  Speaker 5: They give him one Hey, put him in as a reliever,
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  Speaker 5: throwing ninety five plus off the bump. Give him twenty.
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  Speaker 6: Pitches ninety five.
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  Speaker 3: That's like a that's a thumber. Now everybody comes in
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  Speaker 3: as a reliever throwing throwing it.
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  Speaker 5: Nick Goody throwing ninety one, Nick.
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  Speaker 4: Text Galt say, we need the we need the lowdown
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  Speaker 4: next week. This guy report Joey good story always root.
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  Speaker 3: What oh, he might get a bunk on the mound.
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  Speaker 3: As vigety as he is, it's always like always stretching.
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  Speaker 3: He'd be on the mound. He couldn't can't stand still
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  Speaker 3: when he was when he was loosing up, stretching in
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  Speaker 3: the in the on deck circle, in the box, always stretching, always.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I always root for the position player.
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  Speaker 5: I think doesn't doesn't enjoy this at all. He doesn't
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  Speaker 5: like that.
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  Speaker 4: It didn't work for him. No, he did pitch. How
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  Speaker 4: many outings and a seven?
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  Speaker 3: I got seven outings? Like five something? R A freaking JD.
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  Speaker 6: Martinez is crazy zero for me?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, how many one punch? Our buddy who writes for
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  Speaker 4: the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel joining us on a Friday, which
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  Speaker 4: is always a little looser. Kurt Hoag with us right now. Kurt,
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  Speaker 4: Great to see you, and I'm sure Milwaukee is feeling
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  Speaker 4: a lot better after they were talked about a ton
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  Speaker 4: last weekend, the opening weekend of the season, but not
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  Speaker 4: for the right reasons. So how you doing and how
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  Speaker 4: do you think the Brewers look after a full week
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  Speaker 4: of baseball?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the panic level has gone down significantly. The torpedo
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  Speaker 1: bat usage has gone down significantly against them. It's probably
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  Speaker 1: not a word I should bring up much in the
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  Speaker 1: Bruce clubhouse after what the Yankees put.
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  Speaker 6: Up on them.
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  Speaker 1: The most runs ever allowed in the first four games
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  Speaker 1: of the season, Scott, and also the worst run differential
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  Speaker 1: in the first four games of the season that it
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  Speaker 1: was not good. But now they've won three in a row,
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  Speaker 1: and so it's like, okay, all right, they're settled in.
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  Speaker 1: They're settled into the season a little bit. They'll win
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  Speaker 1: some games.
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  Speaker 3: Could you ever think that you would see a complete
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  Speaker 3: one eighty turnaround? They had twelve don't like, tell me
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  Speaker 3: if I'm wrong. They had a twelve vra correct a team. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: ray of twelve through the first four games, and now
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  Speaker 3: they're shutting dudes out.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot to talk about within that question,
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  Speaker 1: Like this is it's kind of a reminder of like
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  Speaker 1: the Brewers, they're Pixie does, they're pitching magic that they
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  Speaker 1: sprinkle on guys like Chad Patrick, who no one on
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  Speaker 1: the national scene heard of, and he threw five shutty
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  Speaker 1: almost four and two thirds a couple of nine zero
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  Speaker 1: against the Royals. But I think the real story here
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  Speaker 1: is Freddy Peralta. He looks more confident, he's pitching more confident,
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  Speaker 1: he's attacking guys in.
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  Speaker 6: His own like we've all known.
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  Speaker 1: His stuff is some of the nastiest and baseball. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he got seven swings on the curveball in his last
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  Speaker 1: start against the Royals, seven whiffs. They didn't touch it once.
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  Speaker 1: But there's there's just a little bit of a difference
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  Speaker 1: in how he's going about attacking guys, and it's sort
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  Speaker 1: of like this new version of Freddy, or so it seems.
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  Speaker 1: Again only two starts, but as he's getting older and
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  Speaker 1: he still has the really good stuff.
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  Speaker 6: Because he's not that old. He's just been in a
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  Speaker 6: legal while.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, okay, here it is, hit it, and so
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  Speaker 1: far guys really are not hitting it. And that could
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  Speaker 1: be a big thing for this club as well.
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  Speaker 3: Oh sorry, I had Freddy, I had won one more
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  Speaker 3: on Freddy? Could Could that be the downfall of Freddy then?
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  Speaker 5: Too?
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  Speaker 3: Because we know his team option is coming up for
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  Speaker 3: next year. It's a very club friendly, but when pitchers
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  Speaker 3: in the Brewers organization get to this point, it could
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  Speaker 3: spell the end for Freddy. If he's an All Star
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  Speaker 3: at the at the break here this year.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, that's that's always possible with the Brewers. It's more
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  Speaker 1: so the off season trade that that really is is.
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  Speaker 6: Where it happens.
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  Speaker 1: That's when they traded Devin, That's when they traded Corbin.
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  Speaker 1: That's not when they traded Hater. But they had lots
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  Speaker 1: of conversations every off season about Hater. So it's certainly
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  Speaker 1: within the realm of possibility that they would consider trading
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  Speaker 1: Freddy Pearl to the season or this offseason. I would
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  Speaker 1: deem it unlikely at this point. We'll see again how
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  Speaker 1: this year unfolds. The Brewers, you know, kind of want
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  Speaker 1: to take another crack at it basically every single year.
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  Speaker 1: Never go all the way in, but give themselves a
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  Speaker 1: realistic chance going into every single season. I don't get
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  Speaker 1: the sense that Freddy Pearl the guy that they would
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  Speaker 1: trade with a year left of team controlled. He's sort
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  Speaker 1: of a Willia Domis type person in the clubhouse, and
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  Speaker 1: that deals pretty affordable to I mean eight million, I
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  Speaker 1: believe going into next year, and if you look at
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  Speaker 1: the rotation, they don't have a ton of guys kept
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  Speaker 1: beyond this year as well, mister Cortez free agent Brandon
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  Speaker 1: Wodrod will be a free agent again, so they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: need some arms, and Freddy Pearl has been really reliable.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna guess no on a trade at this point.
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  Speaker 5: That's interesting. You broughng up Nester Cortes absolutely or excuse me,
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  Speaker 5: first outing not very good, second outing coming on. We're
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  Speaker 5: talking about that too a little bit ago. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: just this guy, talk a little bit about him and
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  Speaker 5: what you expect from him this year. I mean, he
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  Speaker 5: goes from sky low to sky high after a great outing.
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  Speaker 5: This is pictures are just different. Base You just never know.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, this game's crazy, isn't it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine anything's ever has happened like
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  Speaker 1: what happened on Saturday in the Bronx, where the first
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  Speaker 1: three pitches against his old team all left the as usual.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like in this game, right, the truth is
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  Speaker 1: somewhere in between Nessor might not go out and go
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  Speaker 1: six shutty with seven or eight strikeouts every game, but
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  Speaker 1: he's also not going to allow five homers in two
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  Speaker 1: innings every game. I thought this was a good combination
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  Speaker 1: when they initially acquired him for Devin Williams. The Brews
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  Speaker 1: do a lot with guys who throw multiple fastballs and
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fastballs, and that's obviously his game. So
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  Speaker 1: I was really impressed with his start last night, six innings,
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  Speaker 1: no runs, just the difficulty in going from what he
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  Speaker 1: experienced at Yankee Stadium and then trying to figure out
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  Speaker 1: what went wrong with a team that he's not super
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  Speaker 1: familiar with the coaching staff. He's not super familiar with
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  Speaker 1: like what adjustments do you need to make? What adjustments
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  Speaker 1: don't you need to make? I feel like that's I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you guys would know this. That's probably the trickiest part
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  Speaker 1: of being a player is that side of things and
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  Speaker 1: figure out what to do when things are going wrong.
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  Speaker 1: And him and Chris hook and Jim Henderson, all the
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  Speaker 1: pitching guys in Milwaukee Day, they figured it out pretty quicker.
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  Speaker 3: So seems yeah, they developed that relationship in spring training.
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  Speaker 3: Hooky's good at that. My question is about what Mark
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  Speaker 3: Antonasio said, and I'm gonna use Scott Brown's joke. So
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  Speaker 3: he was talking to Boris at a tryout for a pitcher.
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  Speaker 6: So it was either.
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  Speaker 3: Gallo or Turnbull, Spencer Turnbull or Joey Gallo. So which
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  Speaker 3: one do you think the Brewers are looking at, and
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  Speaker 3: which do you think is a good chance that they
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  Speaker 3: sign him?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it is not Joey Gallo, So I'll let you
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  Speaker 1: do the math on that one.
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  Speaker 6: With who that's probably left with.
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  Speaker 1: I really don't know how to handicap the odds of
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  Speaker 1: signing him, but the Brewers are certainly in need of
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  Speaker 1: a guy. Spencer Turnbull is another one who could fit
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  Speaker 1: the mold of a Brewers pitcher. I guess part of
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  Speaker 1: the question is is he looking to be a reliever
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  Speaker 1: is he looking to be a starter, because at this
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  Speaker 1: point the Brewers do need starters, but by the time
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  Speaker 1: they have him built up, they will not need starters.
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  Speaker 1: Hose Kintana will be back next weekend in Arizona. Tobias
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  Speaker 1: Myers is coming back shortly after that. Brandon Woodrow will
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  Speaker 1: be back. Theoretically it seems like the beginning ish of
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  Speaker 1: to the middle of May, and then Aaron Ashby and
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  Speaker 1: Deal Hall are on the mend around that time as well,
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  Speaker 1: So like that's a full rotation of guys that are
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  Speaker 1: coming back relatively soon. They don't need to go out
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  Speaker 1: and sign another starter who will be built up. But
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  Speaker 1: we did see him pretty pitch pretty effectively in a
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  Speaker 1: middle relief role. So whether it's the Brewers or someone
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  Speaker 1: else that feels like someone that like a team that
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  Speaker 1: is often not a great start and feels like maybe
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  Speaker 1: they're injured, or they could just use that swing man
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  Speaker 1: a couple innings in relief when the guy when they
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  Speaker 1: start to go Shorter. That's a guy that someone should sign,
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  Speaker 1: and like there's a very good case to be made
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  Speaker 1: that the Brewers, who didn't really spend a whole lot
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  Speaker 1: of money at all this offseason, should be the ones
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  Speaker 1: to do it.
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  Speaker 4: Oh sorry, Scott, all get what's the biggest concern right now?
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  Speaker 3: Then?
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  Speaker 4: With the Brewer in your mind, right, you only get
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  Speaker 4: a week here. They're coming off you know, really cruise
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  Speaker 4: control of a division title last year. It could the
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  Speaker 4: biggest concern actually just be maybe a little more competition
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  Speaker 4: from a team like the Cubs. Maybe the Cardinals are
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  Speaker 4: not as bad as people think they're going to be.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's that's a really good point. Is
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  Speaker 1: the Cubs are probably gonna be a lot better this year.
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  Speaker 1: We saw them mash in Sacramento. A lot of teams
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  Speaker 1: are going to do that.
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  Speaker 6: But nevertheless, the Brews cannot afford.
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  Speaker 1: To get off to a really slow start. They've righted
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  Speaker 1: the ship a little bit. We're only seven games in,
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  Speaker 1: but three and four is a very doable record. We'll
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  Speaker 1: see what happens the rest of the month, because, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, the pitching reinforcements aren't going to be all
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  Speaker 1: the way back and right now, you've got a rotation
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  Speaker 1: that's got a lot of unproven guys. Elvin Rodriguez is
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  Speaker 1: making starts, Chad Patrick is making starts. Tyler Alexander's starting tonight.
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  Speaker 1: So a lot of questions on the starting staff, which
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  Speaker 1: we're not used to necessarily with the Brewers.
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  Speaker 6: So it's sort of a question of, like we've seen
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  Speaker 6: these guys in.
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  Speaker 1: The past turn pitchers like that into you, the Tobias
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  Speaker 1: Myers of the world. Can they do that again or
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  Speaker 1: at least win games with those guys on the mound
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  Speaker 1: to stay afloat until your horse has come back and
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  Speaker 1: then you start lining up the rotation like okay, Peralta, Cortes,
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  Speaker 1: Woodriff Myers, like that's pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: I like saying things before they actually happen, and everybody's like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I knew Jackson Jackson Churio was going to have an
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  Speaker 3: All Star year. When he's at the All Star Game,
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  Speaker 3: have you seen or has the organization seen enough growth
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  Speaker 3: from not just the end of last year, but from
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  Speaker 3: the end of spring training to start the season or
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  Speaker 3: during spring training to say, you know what, this dude
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  Speaker 3: is going to be the I mean, some are saying
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  Speaker 3: he could get MVP votes. Some are definitely saying he's
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  Speaker 3: an All Star. Have you seen the growth already? Are
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  Speaker 3: there things that they can point to it?
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  Speaker 1: It's the quick adjustments for me, Like, there's still going
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  Speaker 1: to be the struggles, and that's he's twenty one years old,
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  Speaker 1: and some of that's within his skill set as well,
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  Speaker 1: and he'll chase, he'll swing and miss. The defense is
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  Speaker 1: pretty solid, but there'll be some some mistakes out there
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  Speaker 1: as well. But the adjustments happened with him, and they
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  Speaker 1: happened seemingly really quick. Like I just think about he
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  Speaker 1: went over five on opening Day and then within a
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  Speaker 1: within a couple of at bats, it was like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's locked back in. He's he's swinging the bat really well.
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  Speaker 1: His his bat speed's up a little this year, which
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  Speaker 1: is kind of interesting because he's a guy who's already
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  Speaker 1: had really really good bat speed and so every time
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  Speaker 1: he's hitting the ball, he's crushing it. He If I
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  Speaker 1: had to pick, yeah, he's absolutely my pick to be
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  Speaker 1: the Brewers All Star this year. I'll throw Freddy Berlt
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  Speaker 1: in that conversation as well. But look, he had five
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  Speaker 1: almost five hundred in spring and then strike out the
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  Speaker 1: first five at bats of the year. So I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: never gonna care about spring training stats again. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: try to stick to it this time. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: we all know it, and then it immediately goes out
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  Speaker 1: the mind as stond as you see a guy hitting
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  Speaker 1: five hundred. But yeah, it was just funny how that,
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  Speaker 1: how that worked out the best spring training in all
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  Speaker 1: of baseball. And then immediately facing Carlos Rodan, it's like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's like the worst game you're ever going to have
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  Speaker 1: as a pro.
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  Speaker 3: Were you in the scrum when Trevor McGill said tom
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  Speaker 3: Or made his comment about the torpedo bats.
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  Speaker 1: I was not so So you guys should have Trevor
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  Speaker 1: McGill on. I'm sure he would have some great things
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  Speaker 1: to say about this.
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  Speaker 6: He said.
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  Speaker 1: He said that there was a New York reporter just
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  Speaker 1: walked straight to him. He saw I mentioned the club.
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  Speaker 1: I was walked straight to McGill. Why was McGill, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe they know he's opinionated on things. Who knows,
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  Speaker 1: And he gave him his line and then they walked
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  Speaker 1: away and that was it.
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  Speaker 6: So that's that's Trevor McGill's side. Of things. I don't
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  Speaker 6: know the New York reporter.
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  Speaker 1: Side of things, but I don't think he like actually
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  Speaker 1: hates the torpedo Bats as much as the comments made
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  Speaker 1: it seem. But he'll probably stand by the Yankees like
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna let the Yankees get away with it, for sure,
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  Speaker 1: no doubt he would stand by that.
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  Speaker 4: That's good.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, everybody's a lot more people than the Yankees
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  Speaker 5: are using it. That was not trying to be that guy,
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  Speaker 5: but that was the Jews.
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  Speaker 4: It was fun. I thought it was a fun line.
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  Speaker 4: You know, if no one's holding him to it, like
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  Speaker 4: it's a court case or something. Yeah, fun line. He's like, yeah, of.
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  Speaker 5: Course Yankees, that always happens.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people feel that way against the
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  Speaker 4: evil Empire. It was fun. So anyway, Kurt, thank you
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  Speaker 4: for stopping by. As always, make sure you check out
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  Speaker 4: Kurt's working the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. Also follow him at
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  Speaker 4: Thanks Kurt, talk to you soon.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks, says