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Cardinals & Twins are on HEATERS · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: We said, what are you dealing with? Is it paying discomfort?
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Speaker 1: He's like, no, my swing sucks. He's like, that's what
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Speaker 1: I'm dealing with. There's my swing socks.
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Speaker 2: This is why I love baseball. We're hitting better than
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Speaker 2: box scores. The two hottest teams in the sport right
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Speaker 2: now with eight game winners, eight game heaters. I should
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Speaker 2: say the Cardinals and the Twins have both won eight
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Speaker 2: games in a row. Cardinals have a tough stretch coming up,
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Speaker 2: but nice little sweep over the weekend for them. Obviously,
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Speaker 2: same thing with the Twins against what was supposed to
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Speaker 2: be a pretty good Giants team.
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Speaker 3: Chants are faltering a little bit. They're they're starting to
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Speaker 3: They're they're a little they're they're they're faltering. But they're
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Speaker 3: still doing all right. They're still doing all right. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: but the Twins totally. Col Roco knew what he was
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Speaker 3: doing in the car. But the Twins a lot of
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Speaker 3: people picked to win that division, So they're not as
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Speaker 3: surprising because they got at such servile start. Let's got
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Speaker 3: Cardinal baseball though no one thought they be just good.
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Speaker 2: At all nineteen. I mean, the two sweeps they just
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Speaker 2: had where Pittsburgh don't care.
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Speaker 4: And the Nats, but.
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Speaker 3: Don't care they beat them. I don't care, naser pesky
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Speaker 3: little bunch of yea Nats. They are right there, They're Gnats,
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Speaker 3: jimn Nats.
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Speaker 2: You want to show the Katie Wu tweet because this
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Speaker 2: will help tell the story of.
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Speaker 3: But their defense has been incredible. They're starting.
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Speaker 5: Don't tell me.
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Speaker 3: Starting pitching doesn't win. Length and starting pitching doesn't win,
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Speaker 3: because this tweet right here proves it.
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Speaker 4: That's right.
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Speaker 2: So Katie Wu hosts Cardinal Territory also covers the team
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Speaker 2: for the Athletics. She said, the Cardinals lead the National
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Speaker 2: League in rotation innings pitched. They have the fourth highest
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Speaker 2: team average in baseball. They have not allowed an earn
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Speaker 2: running belief since last Sunday, about a week. Right, and
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Speaker 2: then they have the best drs in the National League
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Speaker 2: defensive round and sad birds are surgings.
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Speaker 4: She said.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's the recipe that John Mozelac likes to
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Speaker 2: put together. I want length out of my starters, I
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Speaker 2: want good defense, I want a little bit of contact. Right,
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Speaker 2: we're not going to be able to buy every big
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Speaker 2: bopper in baseball, and they're doing it.
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Speaker 4: Is it sustainable?
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Speaker 2: Know who they have coming up, Kratz, Philly, Kansas City, Detroit, Arizona.
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Speaker 6: That's what That's what Modaylak's doing. Damn even heim Bloom
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Speaker 6: might be doing that. Like, Hey, these next nine against
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Speaker 6: these tough, tough three, you know, three game sets that
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Speaker 6: we got coming up, Let's lose a couple of these
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Speaker 6: because we want to make sure we're in a position
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Speaker 6: to be able to not piss off Saint Louis Cardinals
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Speaker 6: fans even more and trade some of these guys because
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Speaker 6: if they stay a few games over five hundred oh
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Speaker 6: and now Central it's always winnable, you can always get in.
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Speaker 6: Then they're not gonna get rid of anybody, and all
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Speaker 6: of a sudden, you're gonna lose a window of getting
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Speaker 6: a chance to the reboot pushing you ahead earlier with
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Speaker 6: your youth movement.
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Speaker 5: So they're looking for a few losses here.
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Speaker 3: I don't know A completely disagree with the same year,
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Speaker 3: completely disagree sex last year. He wants to go out good,
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Speaker 3: he wants to win, so he doesn't have to make
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Speaker 3: those trades. He no, I completely disagree with that. Why
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Speaker 3: would Mozilic want him to be He's already taken enough
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Speaker 3: from being.
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Speaker 6: I'm him, Him might want some he might want some prospects,
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Speaker 6: maybe not Mo.
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Speaker 5: Moe wants to win. Okay, that's fair because he's one.
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Speaker 3: Isn't to guarantee you him Bloom would rather win than
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Speaker 3: lose because this is a team he did help put together.
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Speaker 3: It's not like if Heini Bloom was doing nothing the
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Speaker 3: last couple of years. He's been there for two years.
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Speaker 4: Now and they didn't selling.
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Speaker 6: He was as advisor role and he's just been sticking
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Speaker 6: to the minor league stuff. So he's building the minor
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Speaker 6: league up, building the staff, up building what they have.
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Speaker 6: That might have been what he told you, but I
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Speaker 6: guarantee you he has some saying what's happening? So do
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Speaker 6: you so? So would they want a five hundred season
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Speaker 6: and not get rid of anybody and not upgrade their prospects,
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Speaker 6: or would they want a below five hundred season where
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Speaker 6: they're like, Okay, trade deadline, We're able to move Nolan
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Speaker 6: Aeronaut because he's having a good year. We're able to
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Speaker 6: get rid of Sunny Gray because he actually one.
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Speaker 3: Of those traded. But they both said they're not going anywhere.
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Speaker 3: So those two names you just brought up don't work,
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Speaker 3: they both said. Arnaudo said no, Sonny Gray's come out
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Speaker 3: and said, I ain't getting traded. I am not going anywhere.
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Speaker 5: I don't care. I mean, he said it.
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Speaker 4: I think he'd go to Atlanta.
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Speaker 5: You think he'd be the only one.
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Speaker 2: I think he'd go to Atlanta because he lives in Tennessee, right,
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Speaker 2: I think that would right now?
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Speaker 4: Nashville, Yeah, Nashville, Tennessee.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think he would go down there because
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Speaker 2: he'd be close to home.
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Speaker 3: I think he'd be very I mean, he's been very
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Speaker 3: adamant that he's not waving his no traue.
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Speaker 6: Yes.
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Speaker 3: Yes, And Arnado's already turned down trades to places.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and that's why they're twenty two to nineteen.
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Speaker 3: I agreed having a great year, So Soney Gray is
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Speaker 3: having a great year. I just I think the problem
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Speaker 3: you have is if you don't trade those two, then
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Speaker 3: who do you trade?
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Speaker 5: Hellesley?
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Speaker 3: But if you're somewhat in it, you can't trade him.
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Speaker 3: He's off the table, game out. If you're over five
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Speaker 3: hundred at the trade deadline, you don't.
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Speaker 4: Make moves, correct.
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Speaker 3: I know the National League is way tougher than American
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Speaker 3: leg but.
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Speaker 5: You just don't.
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Speaker 4: Centralized the team in a similar spot and.
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Speaker 6: The central teams aren't that great now. The other option, then,
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Speaker 6: do they add to their team? Do they get rid
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Speaker 6: of some of their prospects to add somebody to help this,
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Speaker 6: to help the fact that Jordan Walker's not playing great
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Speaker 6: defense and right field and his hitting isn't really coming around.
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Speaker 6: If they're that one game out or like four games
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Speaker 6: about five hundred at the trade deadline, do they now
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Speaker 6: add Yes.
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Speaker 2: If they're in, if they're in a position to potentially
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Speaker 2: win the division, they will add. Will they add crazy, No,
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Speaker 2: But I think they would add at the trade deadline.
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Speaker 4: I don't think that's far fetched to think it's early.
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Speaker 4: Though it's early.
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Speaker 2: We're again, we might talk about them in ten days
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Speaker 2: and be like, well, they just went on a two
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Speaker 2: and ten stretch or whatever, a two to eight stretch
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Speaker 2: in a ten game span.
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Speaker 4: But at least they're doing.
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Speaker 6: But the things that they're doing create a good team
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Speaker 6: batting average and defense to run safe. That creates good
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Speaker 6: team and length, like aj said, length from your.
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Speaker 4: Starters, which is rare these days in our game.
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Speaker 3: That's why for that, like, okay, we'll use the Cubs
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Speaker 3: right for example, we just did the Cubs game. The
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Speaker 3: Cubs have the the Cubs and the Mets, their starters
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Speaker 3: don't go deep, especially with Emmanaga and Steel down.
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Speaker 5: The Mets, I think are.
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Speaker 3: Twenty ninth baseball five point zero nine innings per start.
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Speaker 3: I think one of the two are low, and I
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Speaker 3: thought it was the Mets front. Yeah, I'm pretty sure
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Speaker 3: that the metswenty ninth.
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Speaker 4: Dodgers I think are the lowest.
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Speaker 5: Dodgers are a little bit.
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Speaker 4: That's that's a different that's a whole different thing.
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Speaker 3: But I think the Mets are twenty ninth in baseball
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Speaker 3: and like five point h nine innings per start, which
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Speaker 3: catches up to you eventually.
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Speaker 4: It could they've had starters coming back.
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Speaker 3: In, but eventually your bullpen runs out of gas. Yes,
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Speaker 3: I don't care how I mean, unless you're the Dodgers.
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Speaker 3: You just keep shuttling guys up and down.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it certainly is a good sign when you're starting
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Speaker 2: pitching is eating up innings right now for the bullpen.
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Speaker 2: All right, So we'll talk about the Twins when we
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Speaker 2: swing back, because Dan Hayes is going to join us,
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Speaker 2: got Dan Hayes with US covers the Twins for the
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Speaker 2: Athletic and the Twins have won eight games in a
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Speaker 2: row as of this conversation, Dan, what is going on
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Speaker 2: right for this team now?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, when we talked last, I think it was five
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Speaker 1: weeks ago, the Twins starters had the worst rotation ERA
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Speaker 1: in baseball with six point nine through ten games and
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Speaker 1: obviously two turns that's nothing, but they had so much
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Speaker 1: weird stuff going on in that first run. Since then,
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Speaker 1: the last thirty one games, they're first in the majors
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Speaker 1: with the two three nine era pitching. Pitching, pitching, let's
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Speaker 1: do the Twins right now. Are thrilled to be at
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Speaker 1: the five hundred and mark. Twenty one days ago they
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Speaker 1: were seven to fifteen. They were in a terrible spot
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Speaker 1: the season. It wasn't over because it's only twenty two games,
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Speaker 1: but also you've dug yourself a huge hole. Now here
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Speaker 1: they are, you know, twenty they've won fourteen or the
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Speaker 1: last twenty and it's been pitching. But the pitching allowed
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Speaker 1: the hitting to catch up, and I think that the
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Speaker 1: infield defense probably got more sure handed. Not they're not
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Speaker 1: a rangeye group at all. But they weren't converting the
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Speaker 1: outs that they should be making before. And now they've
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Speaker 1: gotten better at that, and I think that combo of
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Speaker 1: all three things has really turned things around for him.
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Speaker 4: So good.
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Speaker 6: Okay, sorry it was it was glitchy, but I thought
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Speaker 6: that was me. The Twins were a team on August
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Speaker 6: whatever tenth last year that we're in control. Is this
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Speaker 6: the same looking team? They were in control of the
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Speaker 6: spot that they were going to be in the playoffs,
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Speaker 6: and it was more of like, Okay, we're just gonna
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Speaker 6: cruise in and then the end of the season came
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Speaker 6: and they were not.
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Speaker 5: They were watching, not playing. Is this the same looking
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Speaker 5: team when you look at it's the same personnel, right,
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Speaker 5: you know, minus or plus a few guys from the
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Speaker 5: minor league that have come up and played, you know,
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Speaker 5: decent roles in this winning stretch. But is this the
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Speaker 5: same looking team in the sense of like how they
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Speaker 5: go about it every night? Minus Corey are not having
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Speaker 5: a good year yet? Yeah they are.
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Speaker 1: I mean look August seventeenth, there were seventy and fifty three.
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Speaker 1: Last year they had a ninety five percent chance of
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Speaker 1: making the playoffs. But the key thing that it happened
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Speaker 1: was on August seventh or eighth, Joe Ryan suffered that injury,
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you're down to Pablo Lopez
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Speaker 1: and Bailey Ober and three guys that are going five
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Speaker 1: innings max in the rotation and your bullpen got overloaded,
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Speaker 1: just got way too much work down the stretch. The
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Speaker 1: rotation was solid, wasn't nearly what it would be. And
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Speaker 1: this year you have five solid contributors. Like you look
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Speaker 1: at the rotation right now and I think Simon Woods
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Speaker 1: Richardson's at four to one ERA. That's that's the guy
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Speaker 1: that it's the Probably the odds are the least in
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Speaker 1: their favor on that day. If Pablo Lopez, Bailey Ober
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Speaker 1: or Joe Ryan's on the mound, the Twins are probably
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Speaker 1: favor or very close to. Even the strikeout to walk
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Speaker 1: is incredible. The Twins lead Baseball in strikeout to walk ratio.
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Speaker 1: And so you look at that that group, as long
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Speaker 1: as there's health, this was a very good group.
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Speaker 4: Last year.
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Speaker 1: They had another a similar slow start last year where
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Speaker 1: they were seven to thirteen to start it off, and
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Speaker 1: like I said, seven and fifteen this year. Then they
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Speaker 1: played sixty three and forty ball when they figure out
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Speaker 1: how to get the offense going. But it is very
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Speaker 1: similar now. The additions have been good. Harrison Bader is
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Speaker 1: fifth I think in defensive run saved or total run
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Speaker 1: saved Byron Buckson has been healthy and outstanding. Together defensively,
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Speaker 1: it's a very good outfield when you throw those guys
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Speaker 1: out there. Ty Frantz has been really consistent at first
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Speaker 1: base with the bat. It's not his numbers don't blow
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Speaker 1: you away, but his numbers with runners in scoring position
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Speaker 1: have been outstanding. And then Danny Koulom was their other
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Speaker 1: free agent addition. He hasn't allowed to run in fifteen
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Speaker 1: at thirty innings and has really built out the bull
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Speaker 1: And aside from those three, this is largely the same group.
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Speaker 1: Luke Keishell looked like a difference maker when he came up,
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Speaker 1: he looked out standing, and then he took a pitch
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Speaker 1: off the forearm and is out for two months. So
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Speaker 1: you're seeing this same group, and when you're looking at them,
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Speaker 1: it's forty one games in Carlos, Korea has a sub
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Speaker 1: six hundred ops. Royce Lewis had his first go ahead
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Speaker 1: or game time hit yesterday since September second of last year,
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Speaker 1: you've gotten zero production or not zero, but you've gotten
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Speaker 1: minimal production. Now to your guys that are supposed to
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Speaker 1: be your best Matt Waller's been out since April sixteenth.
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Speaker 1: They're trending up for sure, because this offense is starting
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Speaker 1: to finally find its way that first. You know, through
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Speaker 1: the seven to fifteen start, they were scoring about three
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Speaker 1: point four runs a game. Now they're scoring about four
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Speaker 1: point seven runs a game during the last twenty So
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Speaker 1: I think that one, the weather's getting warmer and guys
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Speaker 1: talk about that, but also you just had guys starting
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Speaker 1: to find their level after just terrible, terrible starts where
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Speaker 1: everything seemed to go wrong.
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Speaker 6: Can you explain to me Royce Lewis, because for the
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Speaker 6: first half of his big league career, it was when
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Speaker 6: he's out there, possibly MVP type of numbers, but it
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Speaker 6: was just injury after injury. Then last year I think
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Speaker 6: the number was he played fifty three of the last
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Speaker 6: fifty six games and he ended up hitting two thirty
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Speaker 6: eight as ops was below seven fifty, So it was
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Speaker 6: it wasn't that all star type of level. Is it
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Speaker 6: something that we're seeing a difference ever since the day
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Speaker 6: he said I really don't go into slumps, so I
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Speaker 6: don't know what those are. Is there a difference when
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Speaker 6: he's out there too much?
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Speaker 4: Maybe?
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Speaker 1: Okay, so wait, I want to clarify the slump thing
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Speaker 1: because it sounds terrible because he did have that run
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Speaker 1: and it was very bad. But what he was trying
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Speaker 1: to get across, and I think some of my fellow
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Speaker 1: journalists love the I don't do slumps headline and ran
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Speaker 1: with that was he was just trying to say that
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Speaker 1: he refreshes or resets his mind or tries to every
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Speaker 1: day like I'm not in an for thirty slump, I'm
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Speaker 1: for oh and goes from there. He tries mentally not
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Speaker 1: to do it. I think we saw him go through
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Speaker 1: it in the worst way last year, and I think
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Speaker 1: he was very much dealing with a lot of stuff
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Speaker 1: that he'd never dealt with before.
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Speaker 5: You're right, it.
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Speaker 1: Was a stretch like that. I think it was fifty
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Speaker 1: eight of sixty one and that's the most he'd ever
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Speaker 1: played in his career at any time consecutively. Royce Lewis
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Speaker 1: still has not played one hundred and sixty two games
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Speaker 1: he debuted in twenty twenty two. He's creeping up one
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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty two career games right now. So that
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Speaker 1: was the longest stretch he'd ever continuously played, and it
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Speaker 1: was at the end of the season. It was a
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Speaker 1: trying year. That quad injury and getting back from it,
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Speaker 1: I think took a lot out of him and he
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Speaker 1: was frankly just not a good player and his defense suffered.
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Speaker 1: They talked about moving him to second base in the offseason.
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Speaker 1: Everything went wrong and Royce Lewis is an upbeat guy.
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Speaker 1: He's a cheerful dude. He's just always kind of the
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Speaker 1: energy guy in the clubhouse, like the positive force, and
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Speaker 1: he tried to do that and maintained that. But you know,
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Speaker 1: Byron Buckston and Carlos Carrea were both missing significant chunks
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Speaker 1: of time in the second half, and I think a
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Speaker 1: lot of it fell on him and he kind of
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Speaker 1: collapsed under that weight. Now we just got we just
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Speaker 1: are seeing him come back. You know, he just returned.
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Speaker 1: He's played six games. Yesterday he got his first hit
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Speaker 1: of the season after fifteen at bats. It was an
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Speaker 1: over thirty six dating back to last year. It was
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Speaker 1: a game time and basses loaded single. His numbers with
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Speaker 1: the bases loaded are incredible. He's got twenty six played appearances,
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Speaker 1: he has thirty one RBIs. I think his OPS is
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Speaker 1: something like seventeen hundred with the bases loaded. We got
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Speaker 1: to see what he is. Is he that guy that
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Speaker 1: was the kind of unbelievable MVP candidate or is he
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Speaker 1: is it somewhere in between? Because even with that terrible
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Speaker 1: run at the end, You're right, his OPS finished below
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Speaker 1: seven to fifty, But we're talking about two months where
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Speaker 1: the OPS was like sub five hundred, and for him,
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Speaker 1: that just illustrates how great he was early in this season.
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Speaker 1: I think we'll get a much better picture of him
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Speaker 1: if he can stay on the field. But that's been
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Speaker 1: the key. Can he stay on the field. You know,
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Speaker 1: he looked really good in spring training for the first
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Speaker 1: two weeks. Hamstring injury. It costs him thirty four games
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Speaker 1: and now here he is back and can he can
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Speaker 1: he stay out there? That's that's the big question.
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Speaker 3: What you know we're talking, Ryce Lewis were talking. We'll
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Speaker 3: get to Carlos care in a second, But I want
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Speaker 3: to know about the pitching. Like Joe, Ryan's been awesome
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Speaker 3: this year for him, Bailey over has been really good
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Speaker 3: for him. Woods Richardson's been probably as good as they
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Speaker 3: can expect right from him. Pablo Lopez when he's out
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Speaker 3: there has been really good. Paddock's still coming back. How
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Speaker 3: good is this rotation? I know the bullpen with Duran
17:19
Speaker 3: and some of the other guys has been good. Jacks
17:21
Speaker 3: hasn't gotten off to the start that he's had the
17:22
Speaker 3: last couple of years. But how good can this rotation
17:25
Speaker 3: be because they have to, you know, the mornings, they
17:28
Speaker 3: pitch the least innings of the bullpen, which can be
17:30
Speaker 3: really good, has to pitch.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, Ryan Ober and Jack's just don't Ryan Ober
17:36
Speaker 1: and Lopez don't walk guys, and they strike out at
17:40
Speaker 1: high rates. So you know, pretty much what you're getting there.
17:43
Speaker 1: But Pablo Lopez is off to a better start right now.
17:46
Speaker 1: June is always sort of his big test. That's the
17:48
Speaker 1: month where he slumps over the last couple of years
17:51
Speaker 1: with the Twins. So we'll see how good he can be,
17:55
Speaker 1: because right now the numbers are as good as they've
17:57
Speaker 1: been early in the season since probably the first year
18:00
Speaker 1: he came over. But Joe Ryan, you know, the other day,
18:04
Speaker 1: came back after throwing up thirty times on Monday night
18:07
Speaker 1: last week and his start got pushed back and hit
18:10
Speaker 1: one hundred and two degree fever, comes out against the
18:12
Speaker 1: Giants and you're thinking, man, you wonder if they're going
18:15
Speaker 1: to get five innings out of him. He said he's
18:17
Speaker 1: feeling weaker. He went six, struck out seven, gave up
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Speaker 1: two hits, just one run, and they showed pictures of
18:24
Speaker 1: him lying on the ground in the dugout in between innings.
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. He said he's done that
18:29
Speaker 1: all year. He said he didn't think he was going
18:32
Speaker 1: to throw up during the game, but he certainly did
18:34
Speaker 1: not feel good. And you know, you get him out
18:37
Speaker 1: there and out pitching Logan Web that night. But Chris
18:41
Speaker 1: Paddock has been really good. His first two were terrible.
18:45
Speaker 1: His last six he's been a five inning guy. But
18:48
Speaker 1: he came out against the Giants on Friday and through
18:50
Speaker 1: seven and a third had a perfect game through seventeen batters.
18:55
Speaker 1: Just his stuff was playing up. He was, you know,
18:57
Speaker 1: Velosy was a mile an hour up when his fast
19:00
Speaker 1: ninety five. Man he can be very dangerous. When his
19:03
Speaker 1: fastball's ninety three, he's gonna be more the five inning type.
19:06
Speaker 1: But even at that five innings, the last five starts
19:09
Speaker 1: had been a two five ERA. I think he's got
19:13
Speaker 1: a two five ERA over his last six. Now, when
19:15
Speaker 1: he's your fourth or your fifth best pitcher, you feel
19:19
Speaker 1: pretty good about that rotation when it's going like that.
19:21
Speaker 1: And Simon Woods Richardson, they still haven't shown that they're
19:24
Speaker 1: gonna trust him more than two times through the lineup.
19:26
Speaker 1: The other night he was in the lead and getting
19:30
Speaker 1: to the bottom of lineup the second time, gave up
19:31
Speaker 1: three straight hits against the Orioles. It was a tight game.
19:34
Speaker 1: They're chasing wins right now to get out of that hole.
19:37
Speaker 1: And so he got yanked with four and two thirds innings,
19:39
Speaker 1: and you could tell he was not happy about it.
19:41
Speaker 1: But they turned it over the bullpen, and the bullpen
19:43
Speaker 1: has been much better, especially if late they're they're leading
19:48
Speaker 1: the league in bullpen war right now in fangrafts, and
19:52
Speaker 1: that's with Gryffin Jacks at a five to eight nine
19:54
Speaker 1: e er. You know Gryffin Jacks. You saw it yesterday.
19:58
Speaker 1: He came in, gave up two hits is the fourth
20:00
Speaker 1: time in five days, and you could tell he probably
20:02
Speaker 1: wasn't as sharp as he wanted to be. Has a
20:05
Speaker 1: hot shot come back, doesn't move the glove, doesn't even
20:08
Speaker 1: have a shot at moving the glove. It hits the glove,
20:11
Speaker 1: It redirects had that ball gone without touching his glove.
20:15
Speaker 1: It's a double play, like Willie Castro is at the
20:18
Speaker 1: bag and in and in double play. Instead he gives up
20:21
Speaker 1: the run. They tie the game. But Jack's right now
20:23
Speaker 1: has a five eighty nine yar a and he has
20:25
Speaker 1: a two to eighty five fit, so we know there's
20:27
Speaker 1: a lot of bad luck that's happened with him. He's
20:31
Speaker 1: like twenty eight strikeouts, four walks, and you just don't
20:35
Speaker 1: have that kind of luck very often. When you have
20:38
Speaker 1: that kind of strikeout to walk. The bullpen's loaded with
20:40
Speaker 1: those guys, and so like when you compare that bullpen
20:45
Speaker 1: and the way they've consistently pitched with knowing that you
20:48
Speaker 1: can pull the plug on Woods Richardson at five or
20:51
Speaker 1: Paddock at five, you're gonna win a lot of games
20:53
Speaker 1: because you can win a lot of close games. And
20:55
Speaker 1: what they they've finally done. They were zero to seventeen
20:58
Speaker 1: when they didn't score four runs as of three days ago,
21:02
Speaker 1: and then they won two in a row that way,
21:04
Speaker 1: So they're now two and seventeen. When they score four
21:07
Speaker 1: runs or score a fewer runs, they are eighteen and
21:10
Speaker 1: or maybe it's nineteen and three when they score four
21:13
Speaker 1: more runs. So they're incredible when they score four runs.
21:17
Speaker 1: But the pitching is going to be there to support
21:20
Speaker 1: some of these three to one or two to one
21:22
Speaker 1: victories that they just hadn't been getting before.
21:26
Speaker 5: Dan, what's your simple question? What'sroll Carlos Korea?
21:29
Speaker 1: It's been weird year his last fifteen. He's hitting three
21:33
Speaker 1: twenty two, so I think he's going to be coming around.
21:37
Speaker 1: The slug isn't there yet, And I think we saw
21:39
Speaker 1: a little bit of this last year, but it certainly
21:42
Speaker 1: has not been as good. And you know, two weeks
21:44
Speaker 1: ago he told us. We asked, is it your wrist?
21:48
Speaker 1: And he's We said, what are you dealing with? Is
21:50
Speaker 1: it pain? Discomfort? He's like, no, my swing sucks. He's like,
21:54
Speaker 1: that's what I'm dealing with. Is my swing sucks. And
21:56
Speaker 1: got to appreciate him for the honesty because he'll he'll
21:59
Speaker 1: let you know. But even talking to people privately, they
22:02
Speaker 1: don't think it's the risk. There was an MRI done,
22:05
Speaker 1: there's nothing major in there. In fact, somebody told me
22:08
Speaker 1: that's close to him that it was worse last year,
22:10
Speaker 1: and last year obviously he was an All Star. So
22:13
Speaker 1: you look at it and it's three twenty two, three
22:16
Speaker 1: forty nine, but the slug is still only just above
22:20
Speaker 1: four hundred. Right now, he's like a seven forty five
22:22
Speaker 1: ohps the last fifteen games. He needs to do that,
22:25
Speaker 1: but he needs to add the slug. I think we'll
22:27
Speaker 1: see that more as the weather is warm. Took yesterday off.
22:31
Speaker 1: I mean he's been out there. His feet were the
22:33
Speaker 1: big question coming in.
22:34
Speaker 5: He's looked great.
22:35
Speaker 1: Yesterday was only his third day off and forty one,
22:38
Speaker 1: so our second day off and forty one, third start
22:41
Speaker 1: off in forty one so The Twins don't seem to
22:44
Speaker 1: be concerned, and I think they know. We saw him
22:47
Speaker 1: heat up last year right around this time, and when
22:49
Speaker 1: you look at what he was doing at the All
22:50
Speaker 1: Star break before the Planner fasciatus, he was having an
22:53
Speaker 1: incredible season. You know, on pace for one hundred, RBIs
22:56
Speaker 1: hitting three fifteen or three ten. I think they that
23:00
Speaker 1: will come. He's talking like it will come. I think
23:03
Speaker 1: there's just a you know, new philosophies with the hitting coaches,
23:07
Speaker 1: and they're trying to figure each other out. It's the
23:10
Speaker 1: first new hitting coach he's had in three years. You're
23:14
Speaker 1: your best hitting coach, no matter what. We all know that,
23:16
Speaker 1: but also having the coach figure out where you're your
23:21
Speaker 1: most comfortable and getting you to that spot again that
23:24
Speaker 1: it takes a little time, and I think all of
23:27
Speaker 1: it is there.
23:28
Speaker 5: They had so much.
23:29
Speaker 1: Bad cold weather that they dealt with, and we've seen
23:32
Speaker 1: it across the group. Trevor Larnox got like an eight
23:35
Speaker 1: to eighty ops the same fifteen game stretch Byron Buckson's
23:38
Speaker 1: been incredible that same fifteen game stretch. They finally are
23:42
Speaker 1: getting into warmer weather. They had seven games rain delayed
23:45
Speaker 1: in their first thirty seven or whatever it was, or
23:48
Speaker 1: thirty six, they've dealt with some conditions not well, and
23:53
Speaker 1: the offense really struggled. And frankly, I mean hitting outside
23:56
Speaker 1: in forty one degrees. I don't like standing outside dugout
24:00
Speaker 1: in forty one degrees, and they're trying to hit ninety
24:02
Speaker 1: five miles an hour. So I get why offense is slow.
24:06
Speaker 1: I think Paul Canerico used to say it right aj
24:08
Speaker 1: about you make your hay from like May through in
24:12
Speaker 1: the Midwest. You make your hay from May, June, July, August, September.
24:17
Speaker 1: I just think that a lot of this is April
24:20
Speaker 1: being miserable weather and him getting finding it now.
24:26
Speaker 5: Okay, But here's the thing.
24:27
Speaker 3: The other team's playing in that same weather. They didn't
24:28
Speaker 3: seem to have any problems. So I hate I hate that,
24:32
Speaker 3: except because the other team's playing in it too.
24:34
Speaker 2: Not the whole time period though. If you're La Arizona, but.
24:38
Speaker 3: They come in for three games, they're playing in the
24:40
Speaker 3: same crappy weather as you are.
24:42
Speaker 4: So I you played on the Twins, although you played.
24:45
Speaker 5: I played inside of it.
24:47
Speaker 1: He played in the Metrodome, he played in the cozy days.
24:50
Speaker 2: That's true, that's a whole nother time was seventy.
24:55
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Dan, this was great.
24:57
Speaker 2: Thanks for stopping by, and obviously we'll be in touch
24:59
Speaker 2: against me our guys.
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Speaker 5: Thanks