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Jack Rozema | Clydesdale Media Semifinalist Series · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  I was born to kill it.
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  I was meant to win.
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  I am down and willing so I
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  will find a way.
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  It took a minute and I
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  didn't have to ride away.
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  what is going on everybody
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  welcome to the Clydesdale
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  media podcast where we are
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  featuring the athletes of
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  the North American
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  semifinals and for the
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  third year in a row I have
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  the pleasure to talk to
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  Jack rosimo what's going on Jack
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  Not much, man.
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  How are you doing?
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  I'm doing well.
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  Yeah.
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  So before I dive into a bunch of stuff,
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  when I do these,
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  I like to do enough
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  research to get a good idea
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  of who I'm interviewing.
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  But for a lot of these
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  semifinal interviews,
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  I've talked to you guys
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  enough times at the competitions,
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  on these interviews.
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  And so it's really just kind
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  of a catch-up.
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  But for you...
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  I went to your game site
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  just to kind of get, like,
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  your numbers for the last couple years.
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  Your profile pic on the game site.
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  Oh, on the CrossFit Games website?
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah,
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  that's still from my days at Ohio
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  State Wrestling.
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  So I think that was, yeah,
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  I think that was my, I don't remember,
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  even remember, like,
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  my freshman early days, like freshman,
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  sophomore year.
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  So that was already, I don't know,
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  eight years ago, seven, eight years ago,
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  something like that.
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  so I just pulled it up uh it
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  is if you said if you said
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  college wrestling picture
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  this is what would show up
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  in the dictionary yeah yeah
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  that sounds about right
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  yeah no facial hair growing
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  there yet really just uh
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  just a little yeah I think
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  I was 19 or 20 probably in
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  that picture so it's crazy
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  almost 10 years ago then
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  yeah and you have you've
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  not changed are you gonna
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  just leave it forever
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  My picture?
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, I don't have a reason to change it.
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  Like you said,
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  there's not really a better
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  athlete picture.
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  I'm just living the wrestling vibe.
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  Are you trained as a
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  wrestler to have the death
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  stare whenever you get your photograph?
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  Uh, not really.
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  I think I would think I
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  thought I was a lot tougher
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  back then than I actually was.
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  So it was more of a persona
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  trying to put on, you know?
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  Um, so I don't, I think I was just like,
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  don't feel like smiling that day.
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  Maybe I think I can't just kind of blurry.
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  Maybe I had a little bit of
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  a black eye on my left eye that day.
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  Maybe I just didn't feel
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  like smiling cause I was
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  getting beaten practice so bad.
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  That's probably what was going on.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  So in years past,
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  we've talked about your
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  Ohio State days because I
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  live here in Columbus still to this day,
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  just north of the city.
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  But you grew up in Michigan.
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  Are you back in Grand Rapids?
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  No.
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  So I've been,
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  I've made a couple moves with
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  the army so far.
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  So I'm active,
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  I'm an active duty attorney in the army.
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  So we, I grew up in Michigan,
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  went to school and law
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  school at Ohio state where
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  I wrestled and then went to law school.
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  And then, um,
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  I did two years at Fort Riley, Kansas.
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  Uh, that was my first duty station.
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  And then now I'm at Fort Knox,
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  Kentucky as of last, last summer.
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  So that's why the last two
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  years I was in the West this year,
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  I'm back in the East.
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  So that's kind of why.
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  Are you full-time army warrior fitness?
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  Um, so not technically.
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  So I'm affiliated with the team and I'll,
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  when I go to comps like, uh, you know,
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  semis and Wadapalooza and
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  larger events like that,
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  I'm part of the team.
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  I represent the team,
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  but my contract with the
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  army is such that after I
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  graduated law school,
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  I have a commitment to the JAG Corps.
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  So I have to be a full-time
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  attorney for a certain number of years,
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  um, before that contract is up.
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  And so I'm still in that
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  initial four-year contract.
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  And even though I'm
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  I'm qualified as a CrossFit
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  athlete to be on the team.
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  The powers that be in the
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  Army have basically said, not right now.
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  We're not going to allow you
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  to be a full-time CrossFit
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  athlete right now because
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  you're still in that initial contract.
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  But the good part is this
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  assignment at Fort Knox has
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  allowed me to be –
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  Basically,
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  as much as I could be full time
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  without actually being full time on paper,
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  because my office,
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  my attorney office with the
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  JAG Corps for United States
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  Army Recruiting Command is
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  like three minutes down the road.
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  So I'm able to kind of come
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  and go more so throughout
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  the day than I would
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  otherwise at like a
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  traditional job where I
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  would have to find um a gym
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  to train at you know either
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  the the crossfit gym in
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  town which is kind of what
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  I would do in kansas you
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  know I would have to drive
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  30 minutes to work and then
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  figure out how to train
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  either before or after it
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  and so this way um the last
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  year has been good because
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  it's been a lot it's been
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  it's allowed me to train a
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  lot more focused and just
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  make more use out of the hours of the day
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  Real quick, Jamie Latimer,
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  who is my co-host,
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  and she was with me last year at Semis.
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  She's from Lansing,
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  so she's got to love those boys.
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  Yeah, for sure.
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  That's where I'm from,
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  like an hour west of
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  Lansing and Grand Rapids.
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  I was up there for her.
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  She's competing Masters this year,
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  and I was up there for her quarterfinals.
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  I love Grand Rapids.
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  Any chance I can get to go over there,
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  I love that place.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah,
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  we just went to a concert there last
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  week.
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  So I'm always trying to find
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  excuses to go back.
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  Because I love the area,
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  especially during the summer.
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  It's the best like from now
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  until Labor Day.
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  It's I love there's nothing
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  better than West Michigan.
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  So that brings up the question.
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  They have an amazing
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  competition there every
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  year called Fresh Coast.
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  Have you ever been or do you
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  plan on ever going?
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  So, like, yeah,
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  I'm pretty sure we're
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  talking about the same one.
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  Fresh Coast Fit Fest in
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  Muskegon on the lakeshore.
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  Me and two guys,
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  the two guys that are on Team 8th Day,
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  so 8th Day CrossFit in the east,
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  I think they were, like,
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  one point away from making
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  the games last year.
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  So last summer I did the
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  Team of Three male with Dylan and Michael,
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  and we won it at the Team
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  of Three competition for Fresh Coast.
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  So, yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, and Rich showed up last year,
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  Rich Froning.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  It was weird.
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  I didn't even know that he
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  was going there or, like,
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  was going to be there.
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  And I just, like, looked over,
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  and he was just, like,
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  sitting there on the beach.
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  So it was kind of funny.
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  We were like, what's up, man?
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  So, yeah.
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  So it is my goal to make it
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  up there for that this year.
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  Yeah, it should be fun.
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  Yeah, it's always a good time.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, CrossFit and beach and lake, like,
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  why not?
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  Yeah, this this past year they had,
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  which I'm trying to still
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  be a part as much of a part of that can.
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  I'm kind of obviously not
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  co-located with it,
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  but they had wrestling.
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  They had beach wrestling
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  there last year to to kind
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  of hit the wrestling part again.
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  So to basically just throw a
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  rope down in the sand like
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  a ring in this basically
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  kind of freestyle wrestling rules where,
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  you know,
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  you just kind of also from your
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  feet and whoever gets a
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  takedown or a push out gets points.
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  And so it was kind of cool.
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  They had like their CrossFit floor,
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  like rig floor set up.
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  And then 50 yards this way was like the,
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  the peer, they call it peer wrestling,
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  like the peer Michigan logo,
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  but they flipped the M
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  upside down and do a peer wrestling.
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  So they, so they'll have probably,
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  I would assume they'll have
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  that again this year with
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  CrossFit going and then
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  beach wrestling going right next to it.
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  It was fun.
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  Yeah,
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  all Jamie ever talks about is the
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  competition.
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  And then I think it's called
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  the Pier Restaurant where
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  everybody goes and they're
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  hammered after the competition.
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  Yeah, it's right there.
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  It's like right up the parking lot.
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  Yeah, it's good.
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  Good stuff.
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  Yeah, that's how she sells it to me.
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  So I don't know if that's
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  just my personality that
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  she's selling to.
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  Yeah.
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  So we talked about Rich.
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  Are you still a Mayhem Athlete?
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  Absolutely.
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  Yeah, I'm Mayhem.
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  I'm fully Mayhem everything.
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  I love what they stand for, their values.
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  I've been working with Coach
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  Jake Locker a little bit
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  more this summer.
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  He's definitely what would be my coach.
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  I'm not, I guess, the same as...
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  I'm not I'm not someone who
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  likes to have who feels
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  like they need or likes to
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  have a full time coach that
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  I'm always kind of hip to hip with.
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  But definitely Jake has
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  helped me out a lot this year.
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  So definitely following
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  mayhem more than anything
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  and much more this past
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  year and working with Jake
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  and everyone there.
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  And now Fort Knox, Kentucky,
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  where I live is like.
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  less than three hours from
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  mayhem so um kind of going
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  down there as much as I can
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  to do little training camps
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  and prep for stuff which I
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  think next week I think
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  next week we'll be going
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  down there to kind of prep
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  for semis to do like a
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  little mock semis out there
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  at least all the all the
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  events too so that'll be
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  fun so hillar was down
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  there like a week or two
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  ago yeah I saw that I
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  haven't watched his uh I
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  haven't watched his video
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  yet I saw he posted one
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  like 48 hours at mayhem or something
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  Yeah, it was really, really enlightening.
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  They showed where,
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  I can't remember the guy
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  who kind of runs the facility,
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  but he was talking about how like,
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  this is how you kind of
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  qualify to be able to work
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  out in the back room.
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  You know, like if you're still alive,
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  you get to work out back here.
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  If you're eliminated,
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  it's for the athletes that
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  are still alive.
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  Okay.
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  And it seemed like really brutal,
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  but it made perfect sense.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, for sure.
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  It's like, you know, it's a,
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  it's something to strive for, you know,
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  if you haven't reached that level yet.
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  Um, and yeah, it's a,
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  it's kind of an elite
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  membership of people that can,
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  that can be there and to
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  kind of build each other up and, and, um,
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  make each other better that, so, you know,
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  environments a lot
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  environment can help you a lot and who,
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  who you surround yourself
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  with is a major indicator
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  of where you're going to go.
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  So that's where,
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  that's why I like that area too.
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  Getting to know you over the
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  last few years,
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  you just seem like-minded
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  with a lot of the people there.
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  Yeah, absolutely.
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  Faith Family Fitness Service
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  is the order in which and
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  what I try to strive to
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  have my life be revolved around as well.
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  Absolutely.
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  So before we get into the CrossFit stuff,
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  you had a child recently.
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  How's that going?
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  This is your second?
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  Yep.
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  So we got two girls.
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  Yeah, we got Riley,
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  who will be three in August.
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  So she's two and three quarters now.
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  And then Jordan, my youngest daughter,
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  was born in November.
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  So in three days, she'll be six months.
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  So that's been...
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  It's been an adventure.
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  It's been fun.
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  My wife is awesome.
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  She deserves all the credit
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  for them being who they are.
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  She's in the trenches, as I like to say,
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  every day as a stay-at-home mom.
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  We're blessed to be able to
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  be in that situation.
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  It's been awesome to...
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  Be a dad, you know,
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  definitely puts things in
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  perspective for what you
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  want your life to be and
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  the example you want to set.
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  So that's been a great journey so far.
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  Not so much the nights that
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  they decide they both don't
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  want to sleep on the same exact night,
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  which makes the next day
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  and recovery and life in
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  general a little bit more challenging.
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  But, you know,
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  that's what everyone who
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  pretty much everyone who
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  has kids will say.
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  It's the most challenging,
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  but the most rewarding thing.
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  One of the most rewarding
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  things you'll ever do.
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  Yeah,
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  we got really lucky because we only
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  had one,
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  but I'm kind of a night owl and
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  my wife is like an early riser.
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  So she would go to bed early.
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  I would stay up with the
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  daughter and we'd go to bed.
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  Then she would sleep in long
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  enough for my wife to kind of get up,
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  get her stuff together.
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  That's good.
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  Yeah, compliment each other.
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  That's good teamwork.
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  You got to have good teamwork like that.
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  It's important for sure.
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  Yeah.
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  So sleep's good now going into semis?
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  Did you say sleep's good?
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah,
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  they've both been well above average
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  sleepers just when we talk
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  to other people about their
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  kids and just what you read
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  and see about other kids.
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  I mean, Jordan's six months.
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  She's kind of going through what they say,
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  like a six-month sleep
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  regression right now, but it's not.
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  Most nights,
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  they both sleep through the night.
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  That's good.
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  It's been good.
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  I talked to some friends and
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  they look at me with their
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  nine month old baby and they're like,
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  we haven't slept in like
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  eight months because she don't go,
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  she don't go down for more
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  than like 90 minutes.
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  And I'm like, yeah, that's rough.
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  I wouldn't know.
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  But yeah, so it's everything.
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  No, everything's been good.
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  Leading up to semis, like feel good.
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  Body feels good.
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  Training's going good.
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  Everything is really can't
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  complain about anything.
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  So with all this going on in
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  your life and you get closer to semis,
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  is there a part of you that
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  it's hard to kind of set
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  the priorities still as you
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  get closer to semis?
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  Or is that something you and
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  your wife talk about quite a bit?
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  I think we do talk about it a lot,
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  and we have a very good
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  open relationship where it's like, hey,
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  if I'm sucking in this area,
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  we'll just tell each other, hey,
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  you're falling short here.
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  You're doing great here.
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  What you're doing here is bothering me.
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  So we just have a very...
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  strong relationship of communication,
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  I think.
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  And we kind of have those
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  expectations already from
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  just our first daughter and
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  kind of going through the season already.
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  You know,
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  she's fully so supportive and so
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  understanding of how much
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  time it takes to dedicate
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  to training if you want to
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  really be successful in this sport.
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  Um, so, and just kind of one example,
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  what I just said, like when some,
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  when the girls get up in
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  the middle of the night or one of them,
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  you know,
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  she's getting up 90% of the time.
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  Cause she realizes that like,
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  I'm trying to sleep to go
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  to work and train, um,
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  and come home and be
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  present at the same time
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  and just with other things going on.
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  But, um,
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  I think it's just a shared
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  understanding that
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  intensity kind of ramps up
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  once the season,
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  the open is here and the
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  season kind of then gets going.
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  We have our kind of set schedules.
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  And so those two kind of
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  things work in tandem.
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  Our experience at Fort Riley
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  before when I had kind of a more intense,
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  my job as an attorney was a
• 14:16
  little bit more time
• 14:17
  demanding and I lived
• 14:18
  farther away from the office.
• 14:19
  So being here has been a
• 14:22
  nice change in pace where I
• 14:23
  can just focus more for a
• 14:26
  couple of different reasons on,
• 14:28
  on CrossFit,
• 14:29
  but also be really home more
• 14:32
  hours of the day too.
• 14:33
  So it's definitely teamwork.
• 14:34
  Um, like I said, she's amazing.
• 14:36
  Um,
• 14:37
  I owe her a lot of credit for just
• 14:39
  putting up with my,
• 14:40
  putting up with my crap when I'm,
• 14:42
  when I'm gone a lot,
• 14:43
  doing multiple sessions a day,
• 14:44
  plus working plus, you know,
• 14:46
  being involved with men's
• 14:47
  groups or church activities
• 14:49
  or that we both,
• 14:50
  we both do those as well.
• 14:51
  But, um,
• 14:52
  It's just – yeah,
• 14:53
  it just all comes down to teamwork,
• 14:54
  communication.
• 14:56
  Faith is at the center of our relationship,
• 14:57
  which is a huge foundation for us.
• 15:01
  Neither of us are perfect.
• 15:02
  I'm far from perfect.
• 15:03
  I make mistakes all the time,
• 15:05
  but we just communicate
• 15:05
  with each other and we get it done.
• 15:09
  So with – so you're in the Army.
• 15:14
  How much –
• 15:16
  I guess I don't understand
• 15:18
  what the JAG Corps does.
• 15:19
  Are you representing soldiers?
• 15:22
  Are you representing the Army itself?
• 15:25
  How does that work?
• 15:26
  So both.
• 15:26
  Yeah, both.
• 15:27
  It just depends on what job you do.
• 15:28
  And that's kind of what the
• 15:30
  appeal and what the JAG
• 15:32
  Corps kind of hangs its hat
• 15:33
  on is you can get this
• 15:34
  broadly skilled range of
• 15:36
  stuff because when you come in,
• 15:37
  there's kind of a templated
• 15:38
  experience of –
• 15:39
  You do legal assistance,
• 15:41
  which is when you just work
• 15:42
  in an office and you basically do,
• 15:45
  you have clients that are
• 15:46
  soldiers and retirees and
• 15:47
  family members of soldiers
• 15:48
  and retirees that can come
• 15:50
  to the legal assistance
• 15:51
  office and get legal help
• 15:53
  with anything other than
• 15:54
  criminal matters.
• 15:56
  That's a whole different field.
• 15:57
  Like if they're on,
• 15:58
  if they're under investigation,
• 15:59
  if they've been charged with a crime,
• 16:00
  that's trial defense services,
• 16:02
  which is its own part.
• 16:03
  So you can be
• 16:04
  an army prosecutor, essentially.
• 16:06
  You can be an army defense counsel,
• 16:07
  which is what I just said, trial defense,
• 16:09
  trial defense services.
• 16:10
  And then there's this whole
• 16:11
  kind of bucket of stuff in
• 16:12
  between there that you can
• 16:13
  be administrative law,
• 16:15
  which is what I do right now.
• 16:16
  And you basically do just,
• 16:17
  you advise commanders in
• 16:18
  the command on how to
• 16:19
  basically do their jobs within regs,
• 16:22
  within, uh,
• 16:23
  Title 10 of the United States Code,
• 16:25
  which governs the military.
• 16:27
  And so you're really just in
• 16:29
  the sense your client really is the army.
• 16:32
  And you might be advising commanders,
• 16:34
  you might be advising the
• 16:35
  unit that you're attached
• 16:36
  to for how to hold events,
• 16:38
  how to discipline their soldiers,
• 16:41
  whether they can do certain
• 16:42
  fiscal or monetary ethical
• 16:44
  things along with that
• 16:48
  align with both different bodies of law,
• 16:51
  like just
• 16:52
  united states code or army
• 16:53
  regulations or department
• 16:55
  of defense instructions
• 16:56
  there's this whole body of
• 16:57
  stuff so yeah that's kind
• 16:59
  of a long answer of what
• 17:00
  you just asked is the army
• 17:02
  the jag corps and you know
• 17:04
  the navy and the air force
• 17:05
  and the marine corps have
• 17:06
  their have their jag corps
• 17:07
  as well you are just you
• 17:08
  are that services attorneys
• 17:10
  for whatever job that
• 17:12
  you're currently in and
• 17:13
  there's a variety of them
• 17:15
  And then is it typical you
• 17:17
  just stay in whatever group
• 17:20
  or bucket or can you be moved around?
• 17:22
  So there's kind of some
• 17:23
  flexibility with that.
• 17:25
  As you go along in your career,
• 17:27
  you can stress to the
• 17:28
  command and to the
• 17:29
  leadership that you want to
• 17:30
  specialize more in some areas.
• 17:33
  At the end of the day,
• 17:34
  you go where the Army needs you.
• 17:36
  It's the Army's needs,
• 17:37
  and then your needs go beneath that.
• 17:41
  Typically in the JAG Corps,
• 17:42
  you move more often than
• 17:43
  other assignments in the Army.
• 17:44
  You'll probably move every
• 17:45
  two or three years.
• 17:47
  Two is kind of the default.
• 17:48
  You have to kind of beg and
• 17:49
  plead to stay somewhere
• 17:50
  longer than three or four years.
• 17:54
  That's really typically only
• 17:55
  granted if you have family
• 17:57
  situations or if you're
• 17:58
  trying to specialize in a certain area,
• 18:00
  but typically they're going
• 18:01
  to shuffle you around.
• 18:02
  You can't really sit in one area.
• 18:03
  You can't just say, hey, oh,
• 18:04
  I really like military justice.
• 18:06
  I want to be a prosecutor
• 18:07
  for my entire career.
• 18:09
  You might be able to get
• 18:09
  away with specializing for a few years,
• 18:11
  but once you reach a
• 18:13
  certain rank and you've
• 18:14
  been a certain place long enough,
• 18:15
  they're going to just have
• 18:16
  to keep shifting you around
• 18:17
  because that's the way things work.
• 18:19
  Okay.
• 18:20
  Is it your goal to retire
• 18:22
  from the army or have you
• 18:23
  not made that decision yet?
• 18:25
  Uh, my wife and I,
• 18:26
  we haven't really made that decision yet.
• 18:27
  I don't,
• 18:28
  we don't see ourselves staying in
• 18:29
  for a 20, 25 year career, um,
• 18:31
  in the army.
• 18:32
  But, um, yeah, I,
• 18:35
  it's kind of just a year to year thing.
• 18:36
  One of, you know, the JAG Corps, um,
• 18:39
  the three-star general who's the,
• 18:41
  the judge advocate general
• 18:42
  of the army came and visited, um,
• 18:45
  when I was at Fort Riley.
• 18:46
  And just one thing he said
• 18:47
  stuck with me is that like,
• 18:48
  even he has someone who
• 18:49
  obviously would advocate
• 18:50
  for you staying in the JAG Corps.
• 18:51
  Um, but he was like, Hey, I just, it's a,
• 18:53
  it's a decision that you
• 18:54
  and your family should look
• 18:54
  at on a yearly basis.
• 18:56
  Like,
• 18:56
  annually you should check in
• 18:57
  and say do we like what
• 18:59
  we're doing do we like
• 19:00
  where we are and are we
• 19:01
  happy with those two things
• 19:03
  and if the answer is no
• 19:04
  then go do something else
• 19:05
  so I think once we you know
• 19:07
  I think we'll still every
• 19:09
  six to twelve months we'll
• 19:10
  check in and say hey do we
• 19:11
  like where we're at and
• 19:12
  where we're gonna go and if
• 19:14
  not I'll do something else
• 19:16
  When and if you become a civilian,
• 19:20
  are you still an attorney
• 19:21
  in civilian life?
• 19:22
  Yeah.
• 19:23
  Yeah.
• 19:24
  So if I choose to.
• 19:25
  So for a few different reasons,
• 19:28
  I chose to take the bar exam in Ohio.
• 19:30
  So I'm a licensed attorney in Ohio.
• 19:33
  But now that I'm coming up
• 19:35
  on four or five years as an attorney,
• 19:37
  I can...
• 19:38
  I can most likely transfer
• 19:40
  to most other states because the bar exam,
• 19:43
  when I took it,
• 19:44
  it was kind of transferring
• 19:45
  this thing called the universal bar exam.
• 19:48
  And so really,
• 19:49
  once you take a state that
• 19:51
  has the UBE and you score high enough,
• 19:54
  which I did to basically
• 19:55
  transfer into any other
• 19:56
  state that also does the UBE,
• 19:59
  You can just say, Hey,
• 19:59
  I've been practicing for a few years.
• 20:01
  I have this score in my UBE.
• 20:02
  I want to practice here.
• 20:04
  Now you pay your, you pay your attorneys,
• 20:06
  a bar association fees,
• 20:07
  and then now you're
• 20:08
  licensed in that state as well.
• 20:09
  So, um, I can, yes,
• 20:12
  you have to be a full on
• 20:13
  licensed civilian attorney first,
• 20:14
  and then you join the JAG Corps.
• 20:17
  That's kind of how it works.
• 20:18
  Okay.
• 20:19
  Makes sense.
• 20:21
  Um,
• 20:22
  so the CrossFit brought back the
• 20:24
  service open.
• 20:25
  Do you think that's important?
• 20:27
  Yeah, I think as well.
• 20:29
  I think it's definitely
• 20:31
  important to involve those
• 20:33
  different bodies of people
• 20:35
  that obviously I think are
• 20:36
  the lifeblood of the
• 20:37
  community in a lot of ways.
• 20:39
  And I think it's good that
• 20:40
  they show that they're
• 20:41
  still supportive of that.
• 20:42
  Absolutely.
• 20:44
  And then Mayhem is doing their own...
• 20:48
  The version of that everyday hero.
• 20:51
  And they're including
• 20:53
  frontline workers like the
• 20:55
  medical profession teachers.
• 20:59
  Do you participate in those
• 21:01
  things or because you have
• 21:02
  bigger aspirations in CrossFit?
• 21:04
  Does that kind of go on the back burner?
• 21:07
  So honestly,
• 21:08
  if I hadn't been traveling last week,
• 21:10
  I may have done that
• 21:12
  everyday hero qualifier
• 21:13
  just to kind of do a few
• 21:15
  workouts and do the in-person,
• 21:18
  assuming I won the military version,
• 21:20
  the military leaderboard to
• 21:21
  do the comp in Cookville.
• 21:23
  But yeah.
• 21:24
  just for a couple of reasons.
• 21:25
  Um, mainly like you just said,
• 21:27
  my goals are to make and be
• 21:29
  competitive at the CrossFit
• 21:30
  games this year.
• 21:31
  Um, that obviously takes priority.
• 21:34
  And so things kind of leading up to that,
• 21:36
  um, I just chose not to do it this year,
• 21:37
  but I might, I might do it next year.
• 21:40
  Because you're so close to mayhem.
• 21:42
  Would it be fun to watch if,
• 21:44
  because if people don't
• 21:44
  know the everyday heroes
• 21:46
  ends with an in-person
• 21:48
  competition with each, each, um,
• 21:54
  group of people having a
• 21:56
  representative and then you
• 21:57
  compete against each other
• 21:59
  to kind of see is better than police,
• 22:03
  better than fire.
• 22:05
  Friendly competition is great like that.
• 22:08
  I love seeing that.
• 22:10
  I think that's June 22nd is
• 22:12
  the day that it's an
• 22:13
  in-person in Cookville.
• 22:15
  If I'm able to go watch, honestly,
• 22:18
  I'm going to try to because
• 22:19
  it'd be cool to see.
• 22:20
  I think you're right.
• 22:20
  I think it's male-female teams
• 22:23
  of this different service
• 22:24
  groups so yeah like you
• 22:25
  said law enforcement
• 22:26
  against military against
• 22:27
  teachers against emt or
• 22:29
  whatever it is that
• 22:30
  whatever they have their
• 22:30
  leaderboards so yeah it'd
• 22:32
  be fun how much smack talk
• 22:34
  do you think happens in
• 22:35
  that event yeah I hope a
• 22:36
  lot I think I think the
• 22:38
  sport needs more more smack
• 22:39
  talk and not not as much uh
• 22:42
  kumbaya high-fiving which
• 22:44
  is good I'm not saying
• 22:45
  that's bad but I just think
• 22:46
  it's I think I think smack
• 22:47
  talking and uh friendly
• 22:48
  competition is good
• 22:51
  So,
• 22:52
  so you already talked about the last
• 22:54
  year you were in the West this year,
• 22:55
  you're in the East.
• 22:57
  There is a perception that
• 23:00
  the East is a much harder
• 23:02
  region than the West,
• 23:04
  but if that's so it's going
• 23:06
  to have more spots than the West.
• 23:09
  So do you look at it as an
• 23:12
  advantage or disadvantage
• 23:13
  coming back to the East?
• 23:15
  I honestly, the way I look at it,
• 23:17
  my goals are not to just make the games.
• 23:19
  I mean,
• 23:19
  I want to be – my goal straight up
• 23:23
  this year is to be top 15 at the games.
• 23:27
  so it's just, just as a,
• 23:28
  just as a benchmark, you know,
• 23:29
  it would be my rookie year,
• 23:31
  assuming I make it, um,
• 23:32
  I want to play stop 15 and get,
• 23:33
  and then get invited and compete in rogue,
• 23:36
  um, in Scotland this year.
• 23:37
  So those are kind of my goals.
• 23:38
  I mean, I just look at it as I'm in a good,
• 23:41
  you know, I'm 28.
• 23:42
  Like I said,
• 23:42
  my training last year has been great.
• 23:44
  Um, that's my goal.
• 23:45
  I want to,
• 23:46
  I want to go win every event
• 23:47
  that I'm going to,
• 23:48
  that I'm a part of and just
• 23:49
  put the best version of my
• 23:51
  skills and hard work, uh,
• 23:54
  um and support system out
• 23:56
  there and see what happens
• 23:58
  and so that being said I
• 23:59
  don't I'm of the viewpoint
• 24:00
  that whether I'm in the
• 24:01
  West East or even Europe
• 24:02
  this year looks the most
• 24:04
  stacked when you just look
• 24:04
  at the scores of all the
• 24:06
  semi-finals um doesn't
• 24:08
  matter what semi-final in
• 24:09
  I'm gonna I'm gonna go to
• 24:10
  the semi-final um I'm gonna
• 24:11
  podium at the semi-final or
• 24:13
  be close enough to it to
• 24:14
  secure my spot at the games
• 24:15
  and it doesn't matter where
• 24:16
  it is that's kind of my mindset
• 24:19
  Okay.
• 24:20
  So let,
• 24:21
  let's go a little timeline last
• 24:22
  year in the West,
• 24:24
  you were flirting with that
• 24:25
  qualification spot.
• 24:27
  You were bouncing,
• 24:29
  you were kind of in that
• 24:29
  little group that was bouncing above,
• 24:31
  below, above, below.
• 24:32
  And at the end of the
• 24:33
  weekend you fell just outside.
• 24:36
  Yep.
• 24:37
  Was there anything you
• 24:38
  learned that weekend that
• 24:39
  took you forward that now
• 24:40
  gives you this belief?
• 24:42
  Uh,
• 24:43
  I think I learned where I needed to
• 24:44
  work more.
• 24:45
  Um,
• 24:47
  I learned just the holes
• 24:48
  that I had were too big of
• 24:50
  holes to be competitive in
• 24:53
  an event that only has six
• 24:54
  or seven events in a weekend.
• 24:57
  If that's for me, it's like, hey,
• 24:58
  barely touching a barbell
• 25:01
  and doing a crap ton of
• 25:04
  inverted gymnastics and
• 25:05
  hanging gymnastics and rope climbs, um,
• 25:08
  and just,
• 25:08
  and just dialing in sleep and
• 25:10
  nutrition more, which I,
• 25:12
  which I've been trying to do.
• 25:13
  Um, then that's, that's what I have.
• 25:15
  So I, I've always,
• 25:16
  I've always had good self-belief and, um,
• 25:20
  knowing that I can be out
• 25:21
  there and compete with them.
• 25:22
  It's just, it's just hard.
• 25:24
  It's just been hard when
• 25:25
  certain movements have came
• 25:26
  up that I just didn't,
• 25:27
  don't have a strong background in.
• 25:29
  And so that's the, over the last year,
• 25:31
  I've been trying to work in
• 25:32
  those areas as much as I can.
• 25:34
  And so that's just, um,
• 25:36
  Yeah, so that's what,
• 25:38
  even without the events being released,
• 25:39
  those were my mindset,
• 25:40
  but now with three events
• 25:41
  being released that I'll
• 25:42
  have a moderate to heavy barbell in them,
• 25:44
  I think it's as good a year
• 25:47
  as any for me to go out
• 25:49
  there and execute and
• 25:50
  compete right alongside the
• 25:52
  best of the sport.
• 25:54
  If you were forced to call
• 25:55
  your shot on one event, what would it be?
• 25:57
  Definitely the snatch ladder.
• 26:00
  I think I can challenge the
• 26:04
  best in the world if not win that event.
• 26:07
  Assuming I don't miss,
• 26:09
  but I don't plan on missing.
• 26:14
  I love barbell work.
• 26:16
  Strength has been a strength for me.
• 26:19
  If I go out there with the
• 26:21
  right strategy and hit all my snatches,
• 26:23
  I think I can win that
• 26:24
  event across the board.
• 26:27
  I got to say, Jack,
• 26:28
  in the three years I've talked to you,
• 26:29
  this is the most confident
• 26:30
  I've ever seen you.
• 26:32
  And I love it.
• 26:33
  I love every bit of it.
• 26:35
  Yeah.
• 26:37
  Confidence comes from preparation.
• 26:38
  Your offseason,
• 26:39
  you did some comps this
• 26:41
  year with some big hitters in it.
• 26:44
  You started with Crash Crescendo.
• 26:48
  You did that, you podiumed.
• 26:51
  It was not a, it had a heavy,
• 26:56
  top heavy group of guys and you podiumed.
• 26:59
  Did that give you some confidence?
• 27:02
  Yeah, that did.
• 27:03
  It was, it was a good, it was a good, um,
• 27:06
  solid weekend of just,
• 27:08
  of just like you said, being there with,
• 27:10
  with Austin Colton and
• 27:11
  James and a lot of other,
• 27:12
  of other great athletes of
• 27:14
  throwing down in that environment, um,
• 27:17
  with a lot of loud screaming people.
• 27:19
  And a lot of those,
• 27:20
  a lot of those events
• 27:21
  really hinged on how well
• 27:24
  you could execute.
• 27:25
  And even though, even with that event,
• 27:26
  I had a bunch of stuff that
• 27:27
  I didn't execute to perfection, but, um,
• 27:31
  Yeah,
• 27:31
  I think that that was a good event to
• 27:35
  test where I was at the time and carry.
• 27:38
  I still have the notes from
• 27:41
  that competition that I
• 27:42
  kind of frequent in my training.
• 27:44
  So yeah,
• 27:44
  it definitely was a good experience.
• 27:47
  So tell me about that.
• 27:48
  You take notes after a competition?
• 27:51
  Yeah.
• 27:51
  Yeah.
• 27:51
  I always,
• 27:52
  I always do whether I'm testing events,
• 27:54
  um,
• 27:54
  before a competition or usually the night,
• 27:57
  the night of a, of a competition, uh,
• 27:59
  whether, you know,
• 27:59
  whether it's a multi-day
• 28:00
  competition or not,
• 28:01
  I just kind of take some
• 28:02
  time by myself and write in my phone, um,
• 28:05
  whether it's a Google doc
• 28:06
  or iPhone notes and just
• 28:07
  write out the event,
• 28:08
  write what I was thinking, right.
• 28:10
  As it started, right.
• 28:11
  What I was thinking, um, you know,
• 28:13
  in the middle of where it
• 28:14
  was starting to get hard,
• 28:15
  like how I paced it and broke up the reps,
• 28:17
  um, and stuff like that.
• 28:18
  And I just, um,
• 28:20
  I always,
• 28:20
  I just try to break stuff down as
• 28:21
  much as I can to tie,
• 28:23
  even if it's something
• 28:23
  super small that I can
• 28:24
  carry on and reference back later.
• 28:27
  I try to do that as much as I can.
• 28:28
  So, yeah.
• 28:31
  So as someone who was not at crash,
• 28:35
  from what I understand,
• 28:36
  it is an event that is run
• 28:38
  so professionally.
• 28:39
  It's like being at a semifinal.
• 28:42
  Yeah.
• 28:42
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 28:44
  Yeah.
• 28:44
  A hundred percent from the
• 28:46
  way that they have the,
• 28:48
  have everything laid out to
• 28:49
  how you get corralled and
• 28:50
  everything is right on time.
• 28:52
  And just the, you know, the judging,
• 28:54
  the movements,
• 28:54
  the workouts that are
• 28:55
  programmed or well-rounded tests.
• 28:57
  Yeah.
• 28:57
  It's just a,
• 28:58
  it's just a super zoomed in
• 29:00
  version of semifinals basically in a,
• 29:02
  you know, you walk in and you're like,
• 29:04
  Oh yeah,
• 29:04
  this is a regular everyday
• 29:05
  CrossFit gym that they just
• 29:06
  turn into an elite field of
• 29:10
  people that come want to
• 29:11
  compete against other
• 29:13
  compete against other
• 29:14
  people in the sport that are really good.
• 29:17
  And they have all the toys.
• 29:19
  Yeah, yeah, they do.
• 29:20
  Yeah.
• 29:21
  So you get to work out at mayhem sometimes,
• 29:24
  but like,
• 29:26
  I've never seen a trapeze total bar.
• 29:31
  No, me neither.
• 29:31
  I don't think anyone did
• 29:32
  before they showed up there.
• 29:34
  We saw some hints that it
• 29:35
  was going to be in the in the event,
• 29:37
  but I never did one until we got there.
• 29:39
  So when a competition offers those,
• 29:42
  for lack of a better term, odd objects,
• 29:45
  is that good for you in the
• 29:47
  offseason to kind of like
• 29:48
  just get your hands on
• 29:49
  weird things at times?
• 29:50
  Yeah, I think it's good if you can.
• 29:54
  If you can get practice on
• 29:58
  anything that's going to be
• 30:00
  in the competition, it's good.
• 30:02
  But I think if you can do it, if you can't,
• 30:06
  whatever,
• 30:07
  you just better go out there and
• 30:07
  figure it out.
• 30:09
  I say that and then this year,
• 30:10
  semifinals is about as
• 30:12
  classic CrossFit as it's ever been.
• 30:15
  Absolutely.
• 30:16
  I love the events.
• 30:18
  I've always been a big
• 30:18
  advocate of getting back to just, hey,
• 30:22
  let's do really simple triplets, couplets,
• 30:24
  short chippers of the classic movements.
• 30:28
  We don't have to get crazy
• 30:29
  and try to reinvent brand
• 30:32
  new movements every year and blah, blah,
• 30:34
  blah to try to make the wow
• 30:35
  factor or whatever.
• 30:36
  I think we just need to
• 30:38
  stay stick to the basics of
• 30:39
  what made it attractive and
• 30:40
  what made people want to
• 30:41
  get out there and compete
• 30:42
  in these events and that
• 30:43
  they're exciting to the
• 30:44
  finish and I think I think
• 30:45
  this year is since I've
• 30:47
  been competing is the best
• 30:48
  semi-finals program so far
• 30:49
  but we'll see how it goes
• 30:51
  uh so trish asks if I'm
• 30:53
  interviewing jason statham
• 30:55
  you ever get that
• 30:56
  Someone literally – I
• 30:57
  honestly haven't gotten it that much,
• 30:59
  but I just had friends over
• 31:01
  for dinner like two nights ago,
• 31:03
  and he just said the exact same thing.
• 31:04
  So that's hilarious.
• 31:06
  So it must be a few people think that,
• 31:08
  I guess.
• 31:09
  It's got to be like the
• 31:10
  gruffy beard thing.
• 31:11
  It's probably when I don't shave, yeah.
• 31:13
  So that's funny.
• 31:14
  I mean,
• 31:14
  a good part about being in the Army
• 31:16
  is like if you –
• 31:19
  they have certain policies
• 31:20
  now that are pretty beneficial to you.
• 31:25
  The downside is, yeah,
• 31:26
  you move around every
• 31:27
  couple of years and stuff like that.
• 31:28
  But even me as the dad,
• 31:29
  I get 12 weeks of leave for
• 31:32
  when you have a child.
• 31:33
  So that's why I've not been
• 31:34
  to work in a couple of
• 31:35
  weeks other than training, obviously,
• 31:37
  but I've not done my
• 31:39
  attorney job in a couple of weeks.
• 31:40
  So whenever I get a chance to not shave,
• 31:42
  whenever I get to the army,
• 31:43
  I will not shave one more
• 31:45
  time in my entire life.
• 31:47
  Trish admits she doesn't have her
• 31:49
  eye focus on that's all
• 31:51
  right I'll still take it um
• 31:54
  and then back to the auto
• 31:55
  lynn uh nijiri says the odd
• 31:57
  objects are good practice
• 31:58
  for athleticism which helps
• 32:00
  in the games yeah yeah I
• 32:02
  would agree with that for
• 32:03
  sure so so you finish crash
• 32:07
  you you have a great run
• 32:08
  there then you get to
• 32:10
  wadapalooza and talk about
• 32:14
  like nothing going as planned
• 32:18
  Well,
• 32:19
  I think things went planned from the
• 32:20
  Snatch Complex, the lift that they had.
• 32:22
  I hit the number I wanted to there.
• 32:25
  And then it was just, yeah,
• 32:28
  like it did rain all weekend,
• 32:29
  which everyone dealt with.
• 32:30
  You know, it wasn't just me.
• 32:31
  So they changed the events a little bit.
• 32:33
  And I'm someone who does not
• 32:36
  have the slightest bit of a
• 32:37
  swimming background.
• 32:38
  I've tried and I continue to put in.
• 32:41
  Yeah.
• 32:43
  Uh, to put in, you know,
• 32:45
  I try to do different workouts,
• 32:47
  get input from coaches, uh,
• 32:49
  people with swimming backgrounds.
• 32:50
  I'm like, Hey, watch, watch my stroke.
• 32:52
  And they're like, yeah, that's God awful.
• 32:53
  You got to work on that.
• 32:54
  And I'm like, I know I'm trying.
• 32:55
  I watch videos.
• 32:56
  I do different workouts.
• 32:58
  Um, I've gotten better.
• 33:00
  Like, you know,
• 33:00
  I'm certainly not one of
• 33:01
  the best swimmers or not
• 33:02
  certainly a good swimmer,
• 33:03
  even in the eyes of CrossFit yet.
• 33:05
  But that's something that
• 33:06
  obviously you're going to
• 33:06
  deal with when you go to a
• 33:07
  lot of Palooza and,
• 33:08
  and once you get to the games, um,
• 33:10
  Um, now that now they're in Texas,
• 33:11
  probably maybe a short pool swim, um,
• 33:14
  if at all.
• 33:14
  So I think I'll,
• 33:16
  I think I've gotten to the
• 33:17
  point where I'm like, Hey,
• 33:17
  I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.
• 33:19
  I'm not going to put as much
• 33:20
  of an emphasis on swimming, um,
• 33:23
  because I think it just, for me,
• 33:24
  it's a net negative.
• 33:25
  It takes away from other
• 33:26
  holes that I can work on.
• 33:28
  Um, and so, yeah,
• 33:28
  that is kind of what
• 33:29
  happened to a lot of blues that there was,
• 33:30
  I was the last one in the
• 33:32
  water and the last one out of the water,
• 33:34
  um, for that swim.
• 33:35
  And that kind of set me back.
• 33:37
  Um, and then still just the other,
• 33:38
  the other events, uh, same, just,
• 33:40
  just execution errors, um,
• 33:42
  here and there and,
• 33:43
  and a really good field.
• 33:44
  It was, it was a stack field.
• 33:45
  So, um, it is what it is really short.
• 33:48
  I think there was only five
• 33:48
  events that year.
• 33:49
  So, um,
• 33:51
  or this past, this past year.
• 33:52
  So it is what it is.
• 33:55
  Also two things.
• 33:56
  One, um, I swam at Ohio state.
• 33:58
  So you did.
• 33:59
  Yeah.
• 34:00
  Nice.
• 34:01
  So I, when I watched CrossFitter swim, my,
• 34:04
  I,
• 34:05
  get like sure don't watch me
• 34:09
  even some of the good ones
• 34:10
  are not really like using
• 34:11
  the best form yeah and the
• 34:13
  other thing I learned a
• 34:14
  long time ago was that the
• 34:15
  correlation between
• 34:16
  wrestlers and swimming is
• 34:18
  not a good one not great no
• 34:20
  no good or swimmers
• 34:23
  wrestlers that can swim
• 34:25
  Yeah, not often.
• 34:26
  Not often, nope.
• 34:28
  I think Chandler might be
• 34:29
  the only good one that's
• 34:30
  ever came out of D1
• 34:31
  wrestling that's a good swimmer.
• 34:34
  That's a good point.
• 34:35
  Yeah, I don't know.
• 34:37
  And then,
• 34:37
  so Carolyn Prevost co-hosts a
• 34:39
  show with me now, and she always says,
• 34:41
  like, her swimming is terrible, but...
• 34:44
  Like you said,
• 34:45
  it's not advantageous for
• 34:47
  her to make it better.
• 34:49
  She's only ever going to get
• 34:50
  maybe five places better in that.
• 34:52
  Exactly.
• 34:53
  And what does that take away from other?
• 34:55
  Because it's only ever going
• 34:56
  to be one event.
• 34:57
  Exactly.
• 34:58
  Yeah.
• 34:58
  Yeah.
• 34:58
  You know, it's only going to be one event.
• 35:00
  And that's why me, I'm like, Hey,
• 35:02
  if I make it to the games, you know,
• 35:04
  you got 12 to 15 events.
• 35:05
  Swimming is one of them.
• 35:08
  I'll grip my teeth and try
• 35:10
  to crack out at best middle of the pack,
• 35:13
  maybe beat five or 10 guys.
• 35:15
  And that's just going to be what it is for,
• 35:17
  for now, for the foreseeable future.
• 35:19
  Maybe I'll,
• 35:20
  maybe I'll have some kind of
• 35:20
  breakthrough or I don't know.
• 35:22
  It's like a mental thing with me.
• 35:23
  I, I,
• 35:25
  I literally used to just be
• 35:26
  absolutely terrified of the
• 35:27
  water of basically like one
• 35:30
  step above like, holy crap,
• 35:31
  I'm going to drown.
• 35:32
  Like it was,
• 35:33
  I was like barely one step above,
• 35:35
  like I knew I wasn't going to drown,
• 35:36
  but it basically felt like
• 35:37
  it when I jumped in the water,
• 35:38
  especially doing something else first.
• 35:40
  Now I'm like,
• 35:41
  I've definitely gotten to the
• 35:42
  point where I can jump in
• 35:43
  the water and swim half mile mile.
• 35:45
  If I need to, it's going to be pretty slow,
• 35:46
  but I know I'm not going to drown.
• 35:48
  And I know I might be able
• 35:49
  to beat a couple of people.
• 35:50
  So, but that's, but you know, that's,
• 35:52
  that's hard when you're at
• 35:53
  an event like a lot of
• 35:54
  Palooza and that's one
• 35:55
  sixth of your score.
• 35:56
  Like it's, it just is what it is.
• 35:59
  Yeah.
• 36:00
  You just don't want to end
• 36:00
  up like easy Muhammad,
• 36:02
  like floating around in the ocean.
• 36:04
  Yeah.
• 36:05
  Yeah.
• 36:06
  Yeah.
• 36:06
  I want to avoid that.
• 36:07
  Yeah.
• 36:07
  Yeah.
• 36:08
  Um, so, you know,
• 36:10
  you're a military guy and
• 36:12
  military guys are known for
• 36:13
  like being punctual timeliness.
• 36:17
  You go to Wadapalooza and like,
• 36:18
  it's all up in the air.
• 36:20
  Does that,
• 36:21
  does that mess you up or can you
• 36:22
  go with the flow?
• 36:24
  No, I think I'm pretty good with the flow.
• 36:26
  I think I say this all the time.
• 36:28
  There's a lot of being in
• 36:29
  the Army that I enjoy, but in a way,
• 36:31
  I think it's just my
• 36:32
  personality or just the way
• 36:34
  I've grown up.
• 36:35
  And I don't know my experiences,
• 36:37
  my collective experiences,
• 36:38
  but I'm the most non-Army
• 36:40
  person that you'll probably
• 36:41
  meet on the street.
• 36:41
  If you met me on the street,
• 36:43
  you probably wouldn't know
• 36:44
  that I'm in the Army just
• 36:44
  because the way I talk and
• 36:46
  I'm laid back and stuff like that.
• 36:48
  So, yeah, I...
• 36:50
  I'm generally unbothered by
• 36:52
  certain because I'm just like, hey,
• 36:53
  I can only control what I
• 36:54
  can control and the event
• 36:57
  schedule and the weather
• 36:58
  and certain like that.
• 37:00
  I try to spend zero time and
• 37:02
  energy on things that I cannot control.
• 37:04
  And that's one of those.
• 37:05
  So.
• 37:07
  So I'm just going to finish
• 37:08
  up with how's the health?
• 37:11
  My health?
• 37:12
  Yeah, it's been great.
• 37:13
  great we got nothing I got
• 37:16
  zero injuries which I'm
• 37:17
  extremely blessed um
• 37:19
  nothing nothing nagging um
• 37:22
  you know as long as my as
• 37:24
  long as my girls keep
• 37:25
  sleeping pretty uh pretty
• 37:26
  regularly uh should be peak
• 37:28
  should be should be ready
• 37:29
  to peak but no my health is
• 37:31
  great so you're in optimal
• 37:33
  shape heading into
• 37:34
  semifinals you've got all
• 37:36
  the confidence in the world
• 37:38
  and you truly believe this
• 37:40
  is your year to get over that hump
• 37:42
  yeah no I absolutely I think
• 37:44
  I can I think I can go out
• 37:45
  on the floor and put my my
• 37:48
  best product on the floor
• 37:50
  is good enough to win um
• 37:52
  whatever whatever's thrown
• 37:53
  at us so I and like like I
• 37:56
  said before that that comes
• 37:57
  through preparation that
• 37:58
  mainly comes from my faith
• 38:00
  and my support system
• 38:01
  that's the first thing
• 38:02
  that's most important to me um and so
• 38:05
  Having that at the foundation,
• 38:07
  having Christ at the center
• 38:08
  of my life is where I
• 38:09
  derive all of my motivation, strength,
• 38:13
  and trying to find my path
• 38:16
  and what that's supposed to be.
• 38:18
  And for now,
• 38:18
  I'm going to try to be the
• 38:19
  best CrossFit athlete I can be.
• 38:21
  And I think that that
• 38:23
  version of myself is good
• 38:24
  enough this year right now to be good.
• 38:28
  So I'm a Christian man,
• 38:30
  and it's a lot of work to
• 38:34
  keep Christ in the center of my life.
• 38:37
  Things come and things go,
• 38:38
  and it's really hard,
• 38:39
  and it's what I try to do.
• 38:41
  You're a mayhem athlete.
• 38:43
  Paige Powers this week came
• 38:45
  on the Savant show and
• 38:47
  talked about how not making
• 38:48
  it to semifinals or the
• 38:49
  games this year because of
• 38:51
  the penalty situation.
• 38:53
  It's God's plan,
• 38:54
  and it may be a way for...
• 38:56
  How impressed were you with
• 38:59
  that response?
• 39:01
  And I know I would be so upset.
• 39:05
  And the maturity she showed
• 39:07
  to come out that way was
• 39:10
  just so impressive.
• 39:12
  yeah no that's super
• 39:13
  inspiring um I think that
• 39:15
  that I think that's
• 39:16
  indicative of someone who
• 39:17
  has their values as in the
• 39:19
  place that they say they do
• 39:21
  um and when they say hey
• 39:22
  jesus is lord of my life um
• 39:24
  and all I'm trying to do is
• 39:26
  glorify him in everything
• 39:27
  that I do and romans 8 28 says um
• 39:32
  You know, we know that in all things,
• 39:34
  God works for the good of
• 39:34
  those who love and move and
• 39:35
  call according to his purpose.
• 39:36
  And so if you actually believe that,
• 39:39
  you have to show it in your
• 39:42
  actions and your beliefs.
• 39:43
  And no matter what happens with you,
• 39:44
  it's actually funny.
• 39:45
  I just sent this to my
• 39:46
  buddies the other day.
• 39:48
  I think it was yesterday
• 39:49
  because I was listening to
• 39:51
  a sermon about Philippians 4.13 that says,
• 39:55
  you know,
• 39:55
  I can do all things through
• 39:57
  Christ who gives me strength.
• 39:58
  And that's often quoted as, hey, I can...
• 40:03
  do and achieve and go chase
• 40:05
  and pursue all these things
• 40:06
  um because I have christ
• 40:07
  but actually the context of
• 40:08
  that verse is the previous
• 40:10
  verses it's about paul
• 40:12
  writing about how he's
• 40:13
  content in every any and
• 40:14
  every circumstance um and
• 40:17
  so that's that's the
• 40:18
  context of that verse is
• 40:20
  christ gives you the power
• 40:20
  to be content whether
• 40:22
  well-fed or hungry whether
• 40:23
  living in plenty or in want
• 40:25
  um and so I think that you
• 40:26
  know you can take that and
• 40:27
  apply it to every
• 40:30
  season of life um and say
• 40:31
  hey I'm content my purpose
• 40:33
  is to glorify god um and I
• 40:36
  know that he's I know that
• 40:37
  in all things um he's
• 40:39
  working for the good of
• 40:40
  those who love him and
• 40:41
  called according to his
• 40:41
  purpose so I think that
• 40:42
  that's super inspiring to
• 40:44
  hear people actually live
• 40:45
  that out and be bold and
• 40:47
  proclaim it it's cool you
• 40:49
  said that because
• 40:50
  philippians 4 13 is my
• 40:52
  tattoo oh is it really nice
• 40:56
  awesome that whole thing
• 40:57
  right there awesome yeah cool
• 41:00
  nice well jack as always
• 41:03
  it's so fun catching up
• 41:04
  with you um we will be
• 41:07
  rooting for you to make the
• 41:08
  games uh you know
• 41:09
  appreciate that you're a
• 41:11
  columbus guy at least for
• 41:12
  part of your life yeah I'm
• 41:15
  definitely go bucks I mean
• 41:16
  I grew up the west side of
• 41:17
  michigan so michigan state
• 41:19
  fan um I don't like seeing
• 41:21
  the university of michigan
• 41:21
  win anything um so I'm
• 41:23
  definitely am on board with with uh
• 41:26
  the ohio state university go
• 41:28
  bucks buckeye nation
• 41:29
  that'll be a part of me
• 41:30
  until I die absolutely
• 41:31
  because because of what
• 41:32
  that city and um what that
• 41:34
  group of people school
• 41:36
  community church family all
• 41:38
  different things that come
• 41:39
  from columbus I love it so
• 41:40
  I'm always glad every time
• 41:41
  we talk for sure so you and
• 41:43
  page smiths are going to
• 41:44
  represent in knoxville yeah
• 41:47
  absolutely the lady buckeye
• 41:48
  she'll be doing that as well
• 41:50
  nice yep so with that thank
• 41:53
  you so much for being on
• 41:54
  hey everybody in oh jamie
• 41:56
  had to yell go green she
• 41:58
  had to yell go green for uh
• 42:00
  from lansing yeah jamie hey
• 42:03
  that too go I'll say go
• 42:04
  green absolutely um with
• 42:08
  that thank you everybody in
• 42:09
  the chat you guys have been
• 42:10
  awesome jack as always good
• 42:12
  luck in lux knoxville and I
• 42:14
  just tried to look for
• 42:15
  hotels right now so
• 42:16
  hopefully I'll be there weeks to reach on
• 42:19
  Sounds good.
• 42:20
  Thanks, brother.
• 42:21
  Appreciate it.
• 42:21
  All right.
• 42:22
  Thank you, everybody.
• 42:23
  See you next time on the
• 42:24
  Clydesdale Media Podcast.
• 42:26
  Bye, guys.