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Speaker 1: It's Hate Texas Week. Baby, We're gonna talk about that
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Speaker 1: and a few of the things here on the Sooner
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Speaker 1: y'all know, Coop, I'm Jay. Thanks for pulling up here
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Speaker 1: soap O today's episode, Me and Coop's gonna have some
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Speaker 1: fun because it's Wednesday, and y'all know exactly what it is, right.
0:47
Speaker 1: It is Hate Texas Week, right because it is the
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Speaker 1: Red River Rivalry showdown, shoot out, whatever you wanna call it,
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Speaker 1: SEC style two thirty Central time, because Central time is
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Speaker 1: the only one that matters. And we actually get some
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Speaker 1: prime real estate in the television sphere. So Coop, Happy Wednesday.
1:08
Speaker 1: How's it going?
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Speaker 2: Man? Man? I am pretty excited about today. Today is
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Speaker 2: a good day, my friends. And why is it a
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Speaker 2: good day? Because we get one more one more day?
1:18
Speaker 2: You know, I feel like it's this season's going by fast, bro.
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Speaker 2: Like we were just talking about you know, uh talk
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Speaker 2: talk season finally being over and now we going.
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Speaker 1: We are here and we have arrived, so now we
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Speaker 1: get to just talk about the middle point. We were
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Speaker 1: past the bye week, bodies are getting healthier, We're now
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Speaker 1: able to, yeah, get started on the weekend. How you
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Speaker 1: feeling about this game? Let's just open with that.
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Speaker 2: You know, you go through and you look everywhere, and
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Speaker 2: you can go through all the stats, you can go
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Speaker 2: through all of the you know, everything, and all you
2:11
Speaker 2: got to do is say like it's O U Texas,
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Speaker 2: Like it really does not matter. You know, we've seen
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Speaker 2: so many stats here there, everywhere over the past couple
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Speaker 2: of days, and but it's it's these two teams get
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Speaker 2: down out there to play and that's that's I mean,
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Speaker 2: it sounds completely ridiculous, but that's where the game's decided.
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Speaker 2: It's not decided by the previous five games or the
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Speaker 2: games after this. It's it's show up, showdown. And it's
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Speaker 2: just different than anything else anywhere else. You know, I
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Speaker 2: know that there's always been the big thing, is it
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Speaker 2: you know Michigan Ohio State? Is that the biggest rivalry?
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Speaker 2: Is it? Is it? You know? The University of Georgia
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Speaker 2: versus the state Highway patrolman. You know that's a different
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Speaker 2: rivalry or Alabama Auburn and uh it's I mean, oh
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Speaker 2: U text is just different.
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Speaker 1: It is. And that's the fun part about it, right.
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Speaker 1: I've talked to a few Texas folks about it and
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Speaker 1: I said, Hey, how's the reception being with SEC people?
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Speaker 1: And they're they're like, nah, they they don't understand. They
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Speaker 1: still don't fathom it. They don't fathom the environment, the
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Speaker 1: atmosphere and what the game is like. I'm like, okay,
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Speaker 1: we'll have to see if it was possibly them coming
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Speaker 1: down and actually being there and experiencing it for them
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Speaker 1: to feel, you know, what everything's like. So I don't know,
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Speaker 1: it don't matter at this point. I guess the big
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Speaker 1: question too, is I have one just kind of just
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Speaker 1: out off the wall before we start talking ball. How
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Speaker 1: exactly is Kirk Herbstreet gonna make it to the game
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Speaker 1: to call it?
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Speaker 2: Was it Herbshare was a fouler?
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Speaker 1: It's Herbstreet, I find correct. It's supposed to be on
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Speaker 1: the call for this game. And let me go check
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Speaker 1: real quick. I'm a verified under callaway. My boy Callaway
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Speaker 1: always has it Josh Callaway. There is gosh, dog it,
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Speaker 1: I'm needing call of duty instead. Shout out to Kyler Murray,
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Speaker 1: who got that nice little endorsement deal with him. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I got that endorsement deal because everybody was, you know,
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Speaker 1: trolling him, and now you got a bag out of it.
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Speaker 1: Shout out to him. Okay, So Bowler is play by
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Speaker 1: play Herbstreet Analysts with Holly Row and Laura Rutledge, which
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Speaker 1: I love Laura Rutledge, She's dope. I actually like Holly too.
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Speaker 1: You know a lot of people don't like Holley. I
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Speaker 1: actually enjoy Holly. But it's kind of fascinating cool. How
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Speaker 1: the hell is her for? You're gonna make it an'thing.
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Speaker 1: Gonna be at Oregon, Ohio State for game day.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the game day, and then you gotta book it.
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Speaker 2: I mean, because you're coming back across, coming back across
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Speaker 2: you know timelines too, right, so you get done it.
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Speaker 2: I mean, what is it eleven o clock?
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Speaker 1: I mean it's six a m. East. It's six am
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Speaker 1: Pacific Pacific time when they start, which is that's what
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Speaker 1: nine o'clock are. It's eight o'clock R time, So yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's about that time. And it be done about eleven.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got two and a half hours to get
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Speaker 2: to the stadium.
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out how does that work. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: for real, unless they plan on lie flying him right
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Speaker 1: into the fair and like dropping him off via parachute,
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Speaker 1: how does that work getting through Dallas?
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Speaker 2: We'll see. I think it's a Tennessee game. I was
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Speaker 2: going down because you know, I was arriving right about
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Speaker 2: the Walk of Champions. I think I got there right
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Speaker 2: at four o'clock and there was a motorcade with I'm
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Speaker 2: assuming maybe Holly Row somebody was in you know, somebody
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Speaker 2: was in a big black escalade, had two highway patrol
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Speaker 2: up front, two in the back, and they were going
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Speaker 2: down thirty five right in the you know, the forty area.
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Speaker 2: And that was pretty crazy. So I mean, yeah, I
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Speaker 2: don't know if it's a helicopter. They're gonna have a
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Speaker 2: helicopter out there. I guess when you're a big time
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Speaker 2: like Herb Street, you can get dropped in on a helicopter.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, And it's funny because just so y'all know
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Speaker 1: that I'm joking here with all of this. This is
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Speaker 1: this is all jokes and funny, because it's just funny
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Speaker 1: that he's gonna be in the West Coast and he's
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Speaker 1: gonna come to this game like right afterwards. I know
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Speaker 1: he's gonna have to leave midgang mid game day, so
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Speaker 1: he won't be able to do his picks at the eleven.
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Speaker 1: He'll probably leave around I'd say he probably only make
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Speaker 1: it an hour out there because it's about three hour
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Speaker 1: flight from Eugene, at least three and a half, so
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Speaker 1: he's probably gonna leave quite early from game day if
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Speaker 1: he even goes. But no, I just think it's hilarious
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Speaker 1: that they have him calling this game. Would Fowler while
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Speaker 1: doing game day across the Country's like, what are we doing?
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Speaker 1: Doesn't make any sense? So yeah, anyway it is. Oh
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Speaker 1: you Texas weekend man. I I'm excited for the game
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Speaker 1: to be here finally, right everybody, you know, we got
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Speaker 1: the Texas trolls in here. We've got Texas fans in here,
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Speaker 1: We've got Texas trolls in here, We've got Oklahoma fans
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Speaker 1: in here. Got a couple Oklahoma trolls in here too.
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Speaker 1: They like to troll everybody. So I'm curious though, Coop
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Speaker 1: going into this one Quinn's gonna start. What do you
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Speaker 1: feel about Quinn playing post injury, post a few weeks
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Speaker 1: off against this defense?
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Speaker 2: Man? First off, I want to give a shout out
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Speaker 2: first of all, Gave and Teddy have Fozzy Whitaker, you know,
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Speaker 2: ex Texas running back.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, every year as he.
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Speaker 2: He he is terrific that that guy. He's much better
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Speaker 2: than Ocho, but he does a great job. And you know,
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Speaker 2: he was talking about how you know, Quinn, Quinn could
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Speaker 2: have probably played Mississippi State game. You know, he might
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Speaker 2: not wanted to get get hit or anything like that.
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Speaker 2: But man, I I just I mean, Quinn's been around
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Speaker 2: for quite a long time now. He knows this offense,
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Speaker 2: you know, pretty dad gone well. And so it's not
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Speaker 2: it's not game plan or scheme or anything like that.
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Speaker 2: And I I think it might be somewhat of an
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Speaker 2: advantage for Quinn to sit out and watch some stuff
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Speaker 2: going on, because you know that, I think that that
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Speaker 2: makes you know, a dedicated film watcher, It makes you
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Speaker 2: a better player. And so so I think that with
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Speaker 2: that being said, you know, how does the rust play
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Speaker 2: Because there's the difference between practice speed. There's practice between
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Speaker 2: game speed, and there's a practice between this type of
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Speaker 2: game speed and so you know, how do you kind
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Speaker 2: of get him into a little bit of a rhythm
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Speaker 2: early on? You know, so keys you he's he's great offensively,
9:03
Speaker 2: he can give you so many different looks and h
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Speaker 2: you know, they they talked about it on Oklahoma Breakdown
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Speaker 2: with a lot of that three that that trip set
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Speaker 2: and so I mean, I I think that you want
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Speaker 2: to get him into a little bit of flow. So
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Speaker 2: is it is it throwing some you know, throwing out wide,
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Speaker 2: throwing out Uh? You know some of the receivers getting
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Speaker 2: those tight end screens. They're a really really good screen teams.
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Speaker 2: So I think that's a way that you can get in.
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Speaker 2: Now that being said, you know, having rust and coming
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Speaker 2: in and experiencing some setbacks early. Uh, that's that's hard
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Speaker 2: to overcome because now you're thinking everything through a way
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Speaker 2: more than than you should. So, uh, it's it's going
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Speaker 2: to be a key to the game. Is is how
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Speaker 2: does you know? How does that take? Also, Quinn is
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Speaker 2: a competitor and Jay he's going to take off if
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Speaker 2: he gets the opportunity, Yes, and if if if he's
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Speaker 2: gonna lay it all out there. Yeah, if that's that abdomen.
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Speaker 2: You know that mid section is still tender at all. Uh,
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Speaker 2: you're gonna make it. You know, you're gonna see him.
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Speaker 2: You know, maybe not take the you know, as many
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Speaker 2: yards as possible and maybe take a slide a little
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Speaker 2: bit earlier. So does that come into a play, But
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Speaker 2: you know it's any football player says, you know, after
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Speaker 2: an injury, all you need to do is get out
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Speaker 2: there and get that first hit and then you're you're
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Speaker 2: you're kind of ready to roll from that point.
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Speaker 1: All you need is one quick hit and that gets
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Speaker 1: you one hundred percent going. All right, yep, I know
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Speaker 1: the energy is gonna be ray, It's just gonna be
10:31
Speaker 1: just Oh, I'm so sad. I'm gonna miss it. I'll
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Speaker 1: unfortunately have to work this weekend. Fly out Friday night,
10:38
Speaker 1: and I'll be watching it with a whole bunch of
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Speaker 1: people on Saturday.
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Speaker 2: Now, time out, Time out for everybody on the stream.
10:45
Speaker 2: Jay's entertaining folks in a little place so that it's
10:48
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the sports book the entire time. Actually, what's funny,
10:53
Speaker 1: it's because it's a big convention that we throw every year.
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Speaker 1: We'll have people from all over the country so there's
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Speaker 1: I say, I've been told about watching the Tennessee game,
11:09
Speaker 1: some folks that'll be watching the Oregon Ohio State game.
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Speaker 1: And so I'll just be jumping around from area to
11:15
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Speaker 1: we've got to talk about this injury report. We're not
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Speaker 1: gonna talk about me. I don't worry about me what
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Speaker 1: I'm doing, No, I ain't gonna be able to be
11:25
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Speaker 1: Thank you for pulling up. Of course, the wide receiver
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Speaker 1: room is still a little you know me the standard
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Speaker 1: for guys are out, Gentry Williams out. I don't expect
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Speaker 1: to see Gentry this season unfortunately. I think I think
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Speaker 1: when he fell on that shaoulder that second time, it
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Speaker 1: just yeah, he's gonna have to probably have something else
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Speaker 1: cleaned up there. But we don't see Taylor Tatum, Design
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Speaker 1: McCullough or Tyler Caltner on this list. How are you
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Speaker 1: feeling about that?
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Speaker 2: I mean, the weapons are the ones that you want,
13:51
Speaker 2: you know, the saw mccolla that that's just something Bonus
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Speaker 2: pretty excited with him to be able to come in
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Speaker 2: and to finally get some playtime. You know, he had
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Speaker 2: the had the issue at the foot and so now
14:06
Speaker 2: that's that's been a that's been a tough deal for
14:08
Speaker 2: him because you know, he's been wanting to get out there. Keltoner,
14:11
Speaker 2: now you've got the two kicker situation. So you feel
14:14
Speaker 2: good about that because I mean it's it's this is
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Speaker 2: a game to where you're gonna need to uh pretty
14:20
Speaker 2: much be uh you know, blemish free on special and uh,
14:26
Speaker 2: but you get a you get a weapon in there
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Speaker 2: with Taylor Tatum. And so there's been some funky reportings
14:34
Speaker 2: around about Taylor Tatum, and so I mean I just
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Speaker 2: I always just ask people, hey man, hear something about,
14:42
Speaker 2: oh you player injuries on TV or radio? Uh, you know,
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Speaker 2: hit up the old twitter. You know, you're familiar friends
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Speaker 2: to go ask questions to and wait until you hear
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Speaker 2: something about that, especially right before the injury report comes out.
14:55
Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of a silly thing. So that
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Speaker 2: beings said, Taylor Tatum is a big piece because, uh,
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Speaker 2: you're you know, I think that he is going to
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Speaker 2: he gets some pretty good chemistry with Hawkins, and he
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Speaker 2: adds another piece that you got to kind of pay
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Speaker 2: attention to. It reignites that two back set that you
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Speaker 2: can go use. So yeah, no, no receivers, guys. I mean,
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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say this is. Yeah, I don't expect
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Speaker 2: to see Dion Burks this week. So probable, doubtful, questionable, alphabetical,
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Speaker 2: whatever whatever on the injury report. I just don't don't
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Speaker 2: expect to see him.
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Speaker 1: Yeah right now I don't either. It kind of sad
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Speaker 1: to me too. I was really hoping to get gentry
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Speaker 1: back out there. But it's gonna be fine. I think
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Speaker 1: this defense is up there at the top tier and
15:40
Speaker 1: it's gonna be It's gonna be tough. Both these coaches
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Speaker 1: are tacticians in their role, and they of course always
15:46
Speaker 1: give each other praise. So I'm sincing it. It's gonna
15:48
Speaker 1: be gonna be big. Right, we expect to see some
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Speaker 1: Jacobi Johnson hurt that he'll be. They've got some things
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Speaker 1: ready for him to be able to get out there,
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Speaker 1: so him and Taylor Tatum, it's gonna be the youth
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Speaker 1: movement for us now. We do need is for the
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Speaker 1: young players to execute. But I got a question here.
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Speaker 1: I like this from t Boomer. This is actually a
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Speaker 1: good one. Do you think the refs is going to
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Speaker 1: let us play football Saturday? Look, SEC refs are gonna
16:13
Speaker 1: be there for this one, so my anticipation is that
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Speaker 1: they're not gonna be high levels disrespectful like we're used
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Speaker 1: to Big twelve. Well, the funny thing is Big twelve
16:21
Speaker 1: reps always struggled in this game anyway, because they had
16:23
Speaker 1: to decide do we call the penalty on them or
16:26
Speaker 1: do we call the penalty on them? We hate both?
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Speaker 2: What do we do.
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Speaker 1: I don't know they were struggling. They don't. They ain't
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Speaker 1: gonna struggling like that here, right. I actually expect the
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Speaker 1: refs to let us go out there and play some ball,
16:41
Speaker 1: so since it's gonna be a good one. But I'm
16:44
Speaker 1: glad to see that we're gonna have McCullough back because
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Speaker 1: mccolla had a big game against Texas last year and
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Speaker 1: at his length, height arms his ability to play and
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Speaker 1: if they have him out their rushing he could be
16:58
Speaker 1: a very nice, nice wrinkle added to what this defense
17:04
Speaker 1: is gonna do. I think Zach Ally's gonna have some
17:06
Speaker 1: stuff dialed up with him, him and bv as. They
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Speaker 1: really try to make sure they get into the head
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Speaker 1: of these players, because the big thing for me is
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Speaker 1: when it comes to Quinn that injury is once he
17:16
Speaker 1: gets hit once, he won't be thinking about it because
17:20
Speaker 1: we don't just we don't. We don't love tap. We
17:23
Speaker 1: try to level and we've seen that entire season. I mean,
17:26
Speaker 1: we saw the pressure we put on Nico. If we
17:28
Speaker 1: were to capitalize on that, we'd be undefeated. But we
17:31
Speaker 1: won't go there right now. But I do see bright
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Speaker 1: lights from in big games from Tatum as well as
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Speaker 1: Hawkins together, because I don't know if Texas knows what
17:41
Speaker 1: we're gonna do in this game. I think that's the
17:43
Speaker 1: one thing that's kind of different in this it's everyone's
17:46
Speaker 1: you know, looking at how putrid our offense has been overall. Sure,
17:50
Speaker 1: we look better against Auburn. We've gotten better week over
17:52
Speaker 1: a week, as you've mentioned before, which I really really
17:55
Speaker 1: really appreciate. But does anybody even know what we're gonna
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Speaker 1: do on offense really legitimately? To be honest, No, it's
18:03
Speaker 1: that stuff under lock and Key. They got some they
18:05
Speaker 1: got a little scouting, if anything. I talked to my god,
18:09
Speaker 1: Jonathan Davis over at Locked on Long Horns. We did
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Speaker 1: a crossover show that's gonna premiere tomorrow, and his idea
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Speaker 1: is for them to treat Hawkins like he's Jayleen Milroe.
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Speaker 1: Kind of a fast stating thought if you really think
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Speaker 1: about it.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a one guy has you know, done
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Speaker 2: a lot of cooking, and one guy just found out
18:36
Speaker 2: where his apron is in the kitchen per se. So
18:40
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean they've got they've got good playmakers.
18:44
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you don't want to you don't
18:48
Speaker 2: want to take anything away from from what Texas has
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Speaker 2: done defensively. Yet at this point, I don't think that
18:55
Speaker 2: there's been I mean, they haven't faced an offense that
18:59
Speaker 2: has had any similarity to a to the to the
19:03
Speaker 2: word good yet. And I mean I'm not going to
19:08
Speaker 2: sit here and say, hey man, we're walking in with
19:10
Speaker 2: a prolific offense right now. But at the same time,
19:14
Speaker 2: you know, you had Michael Hawkins being inserted in as
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Speaker 2: a starter for the first time ever on the road
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Speaker 2: against Auburn. You know, you got to think that the
19:24
Speaker 2: expanded playbook was not something that was going to be used.
19:27
Speaker 2: You're throwing a new piece like Jacoby Johnson, you get
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Speaker 2: Taylor Tatum back, and so you know, if you're Texas,
19:34
Speaker 2: what what do you know? You do know that OHU
19:37
Speaker 2: has not done anything to make you terrified of them
19:40
Speaker 2: throwing them over the top. So it's going to be
19:44
Speaker 2: more of what this offense has done is that Texas
19:47
Speaker 2: is going to dare you to throw the ball up
19:49
Speaker 2: over the top. If you do not loosen them up,
19:52
Speaker 2: they can play in that fifteen yard twenty yard bubble
19:55
Speaker 2: and they're going to be able to run some spies
19:58
Speaker 2: and somebody is always going to have eys on on
20:02
Speaker 2: Michael Hawkins. So uh yeah, expect that because I mean
20:06
Speaker 2: it's it's whereas Michigan I think was you know drastically
20:12
Speaker 2: one one sided. You know absolutely, you know you could
20:18
Speaker 2: line up and do that. Uh, but I mean there's
20:21
Speaker 2: also just a little bit more moxie in uh in
20:25
Speaker 2: in Michael Hawkins versus uh the Orgy kids. So it's
20:29
Speaker 2: going to be again, like I said, this is this
20:32
Speaker 2: is one of those games where you can you know,
20:35
Speaker 2: you throw all the stats in all everybody is going
20:37
Speaker 2: to look at everything up to this point and uh
20:41
Speaker 2: most of the time, none of that stuff makes sense.
20:43
Speaker 2: So now also on defense, Texas is going to be
20:49
Speaker 2: scheming up a lot of stuff for the Oklahoma defense.
20:54
Speaker 2: And I'm I'm pretty sure that there's going to be
20:57
Speaker 2: you know, you you've got anything from you know that
21:00
Speaker 2: that four two front to the three three front, you
21:03
Speaker 2: know a three four front now with the Sawma Cola
21:05
Speaker 2: out there. Uh so there's going to be a lot
21:07
Speaker 2: of uh, there's gonna be a lot of stuff. And
21:10
Speaker 2: again lastly, this is now game three in a row
21:14
Speaker 2: to with this offensive line is is playing together, so
21:17
Speaker 2: we're hoping to see we're hoping to see you know,
21:20
Speaker 2: a good game. No, but you know again, I'm pretty
21:22
Speaker 2: sure that the Texas faithful would love to see, you know,
21:26
Speaker 2: a beat down. But as far as everybody, what we
21:30
Speaker 2: want is you know it is an actual game. Because
21:34
Speaker 2: I mean Texas Texas fans, I mean, what does it prove?
21:38
Speaker 2: You know? Does? Does? Does? Does a beat down help
21:41
Speaker 2: you feel better about your team? Because by all accounts,
21:45
Speaker 2: all i'm here in is Oklahoma's not any good.
21:47
Speaker 1: So so it really doesn't do anything for you To me,
21:51
Speaker 1: I just want to, like said, I just want a
21:52
Speaker 1: good game. I wanted to be competitive. I wanted I
21:55
Speaker 1: want us to to I want to be be able
21:57
Speaker 1: to enjoy it. I wanted to go down to the
21:58
Speaker 1: wire like it traditionally. Does it does that? I'm gucci
22:03
Speaker 1: you won't hear any complaints out of me, and I
22:06
Speaker 1: think that we can we can pull that off. I don't.
22:08
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that it's gonna be just
22:10
Speaker 1: so easy as everybody's trying to make it. I think
22:11
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a game. It's gonna be tough on
22:13
Speaker 1: both sides. We've seen this every segonal time. We played
22:20
Speaker 1: each other for the most part, Right, it's usually something
22:22
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a dogfight. Yeah, and that's what we're
22:26
Speaker 1: going for now. I mean, this is one of Texas
22:28
Speaker 1: you know, best teams they've had and forever. I mean
22:32
Speaker 1: the last time that we played against them with significant
22:36
Speaker 1: injuries like this in one of Texas better teams was
22:40
Speaker 1: oh nine. The game ended being sixteen thirteen. Texas couldn't
22:45
Speaker 1: do anything. Oklahoma was running, but we were dealing with
22:49
Speaker 1: so many injuries that we didn't play very well either.
22:53
Speaker 1: And yeah, that team went played the Natty. Yeah it
22:58
Speaker 1: was a close game, right, So, and that Oklahoma team
23:01
Speaker 1: ended up eight and five because of all the injury
23:03
Speaker 1: that was when Sam Bradford went down, we lost like
23:05
Speaker 1: six offensive linemen, right, Jamaine Gresham, your best tight ends out,
23:10
Speaker 1: A ton of them went down. So for me, it's
23:13
Speaker 1: gonna definitely be a competitive, fun game. So I'm pretty
23:17
Speaker 1: excited about where we're gonna go defense wise. I'm curious
23:22
Speaker 1: to see what this Texas linebacker room is gonna look.
23:24
Speaker 1: Like I've been hearing all all this about them, I'm
23:28
Speaker 1: really curious to see if the Texas actually front seven
23:33
Speaker 1: is gonna be as good as advertised because to me,
23:36
Speaker 1: I haven't seen them tested like at all. Like keep
23:40
Speaker 1: people talk about Michigan. Michigan lost so many players and
23:44
Speaker 1: a lot of them hit the portal right after Harball
23:47
Speaker 1: also left, got get guys, drafted guy guys in the portal.
23:50
Speaker 1: You're replacing a whole bunch of staff. They had a
23:52
Speaker 1: whole bunch of things they had to figure out.
23:56
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's I don't listen. I'm gonna sit up
24:02
Speaker 2: here and say, like I still thought that Texas was
24:05
Speaker 2: going to struggle with Michigan because if you take into
24:09
Speaker 2: account that they still had some of the best guys
24:12
Speaker 2: on the pack back end to that defense, and then
24:16
Speaker 2: you know that defensive line was was supposed to be
24:19
Speaker 2: just as good. I mean, they have not looked good
24:21
Speaker 2: at all. And I know that as far as passing,
24:23
Speaker 2: I mean they're in the upper one hundreds in passing defense.
24:27
Speaker 2: I mean they're they're they're not very good at all.
24:30
Speaker 2: And I don't know what it is. Maybe you know,
24:32
Speaker 2: because again, if your offense is struggle bus you know,
24:35
Speaker 2: like like theirs is, also you continue to be on
24:40
Speaker 2: the field eventually. I mean, guys who are super draft
24:43
Speaker 2: eligible are you know, they're not going to have that strain.
24:46
Speaker 2: And so that's one thing that I'm glad that I
24:48
Speaker 2: have not seen out of our defense yet, is is
24:50
Speaker 2: that our guys continue to play as long. I mean
24:53
Speaker 2: that Tennessee game. How many times did you and I
24:56
Speaker 2: look at each other and say, like, all right now,
24:58
Speaker 2: this is about to be They're about to quit trying
25:00
Speaker 2: right now because it's it's not even there's no reason
25:02
Speaker 2: to keep keep pushing and keep straining, and they were.
25:05
Speaker 2: So I mean, I'm very very very thankful for the
25:08
Speaker 2: bye week for our defense to get a break. But yeah,
25:13
Speaker 2: I mean I want to see I want to see
25:15
Speaker 2: what happens, uh, you know, on their defense, because that's
25:19
Speaker 2: the that's the matchup that if your defense is really
25:22
Speaker 2: this good and our offense is really this bad, there's
25:26
Speaker 2: no excuses, right, There shouldn't be explosive plays. There shouldn't
25:29
Speaker 2: be scoring. It's there shouldn't. They just shouldn't. And so
25:37
Speaker 2: we'll get we'll get it. We'll get a chance to
25:38
Speaker 2: see it. I mean this again, that's why they play
25:40
Speaker 2: the game.
25:41
Speaker 1: That's exactly why they play the game. So scheme wise,
25:47
Speaker 1: I know it's funny. I think the one player on
25:50
Speaker 1: our defensive side of the ball that I'm really really
25:54
Speaker 1: intrigued and seeing in this game probably will surprise you.
25:57
Speaker 1: It's Robert Spears. Jennings's of the highest rated safeties in
26:01
Speaker 1: the country right now. I think he's like number four
26:03
Speaker 1: in defensive players in general as far as grades, and
26:07
Speaker 1: he is bawling this year like he's getting to the
26:10
Speaker 1: point where he's he's being mocked to some nice spots
26:15
Speaker 1: as far as his uh his draft stock right now,
26:18
Speaker 1: and I'm really curious to see how he goes out
26:21
Speaker 1: there and commands the defense. I mean, when they have
26:24
Speaker 1: them blitz, we watch him go out there, and he
26:27
Speaker 1: makes it rain because he does a great job of
26:30
Speaker 1: timing his blitz through the UH, through the through the
26:35
Speaker 1: guard and the tackle and level the UH and level
26:41
Speaker 1: of the quarterback. And then of course he likes it
26:43
Speaker 1: Golso create turnovers. That's what I'm curious for, because that
26:47
Speaker 1: was one thing I looked at when I watched the
26:48
Speaker 1: Mississippi State game. And you know, Jaydon Blue came out
26:51
Speaker 1: for Texas because he fumbled the ball twice. And we're
26:54
Speaker 1: very opportunistic on turnovers where we we forced eight this year.
26:58
Speaker 1: One of the tops in the country. You margin at eleven.
27:03
Speaker 1: If anything, the key to success in this game is
27:06
Speaker 1: going to be muddying it up and getting turnovers again.
27:08
Speaker 1: We got three last year. I can totally see his
27:10
Speaker 1: getting three again. I mean, as safe as they want
27:12
Speaker 1: to be, I think we can call some turnovers.
27:15
Speaker 2: Would you think, Well, it depends on you know, when
27:19
Speaker 2: you're running the front that we run. You know, whether
27:22
Speaker 2: it's the three three or whether it's the four to two.
27:26
Speaker 2: Brievitables is always going to keep pretty under wraps, like
27:29
Speaker 2: what where where the pressure is coming from? And you
27:32
Speaker 2: see Bowman, and you see Robert Spurs Jennings, you see
27:36
Speaker 2: whoever's at the cheat of spot. Those guys are always
27:40
Speaker 2: you know, you don't really know is it is it
27:43
Speaker 2: middle coverage? Are they going to drop back deep? Are
27:45
Speaker 2: they coming on a blitz? And that I will say
27:48
Speaker 2: that Brandon Hall has done an absolute terrific job with
27:51
Speaker 2: designing that because you know, before Dolby got hurt, you
27:54
Speaker 2: saw him do it over and over again. You've seen
27:57
Speaker 2: Sam seeing O Maseigo do it a few times. You've
27:59
Speaker 2: see RSJ hit it, and it seems like when those
28:02
Speaker 2: guys do get home I mean it's it's it's not
28:05
Speaker 2: seen very well because they're usually getting home and they're
28:08
Speaker 2: usually i mean knocking the Bejesus out of the quarterback.
28:11
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's that's that's gonna be a big thing.
28:16
Speaker 2: Is I think Oklahoma has to win the turnover battle
28:19
Speaker 2: and it's got to be by more than one, uh
28:21
Speaker 2: you know too for this game to go the Sooner's way.
28:24
Speaker 2: I don't think that you can go create one and
28:27
Speaker 2: give it up zero times, kind of like Auburn. I
28:30
Speaker 2: think there's just too much strain. Obviously, Texas has a
28:33
Speaker 2: stronger offense than Auburn does. And so but the thing
28:37
Speaker 2: that I do I do wonder is when you typically
28:42
Speaker 2: have like you know, Texas is pretty spread out. They
28:45
Speaker 2: they get a lot of production from a lot of
28:47
Speaker 2: different guys. And when you're that spread out, like who
28:52
Speaker 2: who's the you know, getting down to grind time, like
28:55
Speaker 2: who are you going to and it goes through guys. Yeah,
28:59
Speaker 2: And so I mean, I just I think that that
29:02
Speaker 2: is going to be a question that has to be
29:03
Speaker 2: answered at some point throughout this this game.
29:07
Speaker 1: That's true, and that's that's that's we got to figure
29:10
Speaker 1: out who that person is gonna be for Texas, you know,
29:14
Speaker 1: not not not to advertise for them, but their their
29:16
Speaker 1: wide receiver room, you know, coming with all those transfers
29:19
Speaker 1: if done solid, and that's really usually tough, is building
29:23
Speaker 1: that that instant like rapport in which of course we're
29:27
Speaker 1: seeing it now we're playing a whole bunch of young
29:29
Speaker 1: wiree receivers instead of us, you know, being able to
29:31
Speaker 1: play a whole bunch of transfers because most of them
29:33
Speaker 1: but they have been hurt. And of course truth says
29:36
Speaker 1: over here anyone but Cook. So it sounds like the
29:39
Speaker 1: god that they they're recruited is not one that they
29:41
Speaker 1: all they buying in on. It usually is tough bringing
29:48
Speaker 1: in a bunch of wide receivers and getting them to
29:49
Speaker 1: really truly buy in. I think o Miss in a
29:52
Speaker 1: way did it, but they still ran into some problems
29:55
Speaker 1: and now they're trying to get to that point. But
29:59
Speaker 1: all their wis have actually done well. And but at
30:01
Speaker 1: the same time, I mean again, Michigan has a solid
30:05
Speaker 1: defense overall, but their offense did nothing but put them
30:08
Speaker 1: leave them on the field the entire time. So it's
30:11
Speaker 1: not like it's you know that big but Texas defense
30:15
Speaker 1: forced a lot of you know, plays that Michigan didn't
30:17
Speaker 1: want to do. Michigan wants to run it down your throat.
30:20
Speaker 1: And if you can't run down someone's throat, you ain't
30:24
Speaker 1: got no chance. In their game, which we they showed
30:27
Speaker 1: that against. You know, USC, you have to be very
30:29
Speaker 1: careful with the ball. And the question is is how
30:31
Speaker 1: careful can Texas be in this game against us when
30:35
Speaker 1: our entire goal is to force a mistake and get
30:38
Speaker 1: a turnover. I think we we have opportunities there for that,
30:41
Speaker 1: especially once you start looking at who each have played
30:45
Speaker 1: in comparison, right.
30:48
Speaker 2: And you know, I will say this also, the tight
30:50
Speaker 2: end is going to pay play a big, play, big
30:53
Speaker 2: role for Texas this year too. You know last year
30:56
Speaker 2: he saw just Javid Sanders. You know he was a
30:58
Speaker 2: little deemed up. You know, Billy Billy rocked him out
31:02
Speaker 2: the goal line and he really wasn't the same after that.
31:06
Speaker 2: You know, they've is it Gunner Gunner helm Uh? You know,
31:10
Speaker 2: he was really really big in that Michigan game. If
31:12
Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, I think he was the leading wide
31:14
Speaker 2: receiver for them in that game. And so but you
31:18
Speaker 2: know the one that I that I really really like
31:21
Speaker 2: is the is the freshman more? You know, he's a
31:23
Speaker 2: guy who looks like he's going to be a problem
31:27
Speaker 2: down the road. He's been putting up some production. I
31:29
Speaker 2: think one of the last couple of games he had
31:31
Speaker 2: two touchdowns in the game. So, uh, he's one that
31:34
Speaker 2: you want to see, you know. I think that when
31:37
Speaker 2: when Quinn went down, uh, you know, I think the
31:39
Speaker 2: very next play was it Arch hit him and he
31:43
Speaker 2: he made himself, you know, a runner and got into
31:46
Speaker 2: the endstone. And I think he may have had another
31:49
Speaker 2: one later in the game. But you know, they they've
31:52
Speaker 2: got it all over the place. I mean, they've got
31:53
Speaker 2: weapons to use. You know, I think that is it?
31:57
Speaker 2: Is it golden or Bolden?
31:59
Speaker 1: Uh?
31:59
Speaker 2: In isac a bond? You know, those guys are all
32:02
Speaker 2: They're all going to be equal opportunity guys that you're
32:04
Speaker 2: gonna try to get the ball to. And so do
32:07
Speaker 2: you do. We've seen some of the some of the
32:10
Speaker 2: outside throws against Oklahoma hasn't done very very well, and
32:14
Speaker 2: more often than not, there have been negative plays versus
32:17
Speaker 2: you know, successful plays. So how to sark scheme up
32:21
Speaker 2: that without uh, you know, making sure that you have
32:24
Speaker 2: adequate blocking making sure that you do it in a
32:26
Speaker 2: spot to where the box favors you. And you know
32:29
Speaker 2: that's gonna be some of the r PO stuff because, uh,
32:31
Speaker 2: that's going to be a game that the the Oklahoma
32:33
Speaker 2: defense has to play very very well as the RPO stuff.
32:36
Speaker 1: So who's the player you think for us that needs
32:39
Speaker 1: to really show out? Who's thee Who's the who's the
32:42
Speaker 1: one that's got to jump out in this game for
32:44
Speaker 1: us to see some success.
32:48
Speaker 2: Man, I I'm going to continue to say, I mean,
32:51
Speaker 2: it's going to be I mean, I can't say one
32:54
Speaker 2: guy because I'm gonna to say the linebacker corps. It's
32:56
Speaker 2: going to have to be the linebackers, whatever, you know,
33:02
Speaker 2: whatever rotation that you got you have out there, because
33:05
Speaker 2: I think that with the RPO stuff, you cannot bite
33:09
Speaker 2: too hard and then leave a decent fifteen twenty yard
33:12
Speaker 2: gap between the safety and yourself. You saw it one
33:16
Speaker 2: of the first plays of the game last year. You know,
33:19
Speaker 2: Jaron Kannick was the leading tackler for our team last
33:23
Speaker 2: year against in the Texas game, and that first first series,
33:28
Speaker 2: you know, they try to run a slant. Jared dropped
33:31
Speaker 2: right where he was supposed to Quinn double clutches, and
33:34
Speaker 2: you know when he double clutches, Gentry jumps route and
33:37
Speaker 2: I think that that's going to be have to be.
33:38
Speaker 2: The situation for the linebackers is they're going to have
33:40
Speaker 2: to be very very disciplined with their eyes to make
33:44
Speaker 2: sure that they are not overrunning stuff. You know, if
33:47
Speaker 2: you can give any critique to the linebackers, it's been
33:51
Speaker 2: they have they've left yards on the on the field
33:54
Speaker 2: when they've gotten in the backfield and instead of a
33:56
Speaker 2: three or four yard loss, say you know, it's it's
33:58
Speaker 2: a gain of nothing. Which those types of things can
34:01
Speaker 2: you know, really really turn the tide of an offensive
34:03
Speaker 2: play calling, you know, scheme, because you know, second fourteen
34:07
Speaker 2: is is a little bit more of a tough task
34:10
Speaker 2: than you know, your second ten or second nine, which
34:13
Speaker 2: is just I mean, obviously remedial football. But those guys
34:17
Speaker 2: are gonna need to when they do have the opportunity
34:19
Speaker 2: to get through and make it tackle make it. This
34:22
Speaker 2: team has done really really great in gag tackling and
34:26
Speaker 2: it has to be top notch on Saturday.
34:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be. The tackling is going to
34:32
Speaker 1: be critical, and I expect them to actually take this seriously.
34:35
Speaker 1: I think it's my favorite part about it, right, This
34:38
Speaker 1: this defense cares about how they perform in this game.
34:44
Speaker 1: This defense really has shown that they that it's of
34:47
Speaker 1: importance just about in every game. They want to They
34:50
Speaker 1: want to bring the Clemson defenses in the early two
34:53
Speaker 1: thousand defenses of Oklahoma back to work back today. And
34:58
Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately we trade it defense for offense for
35:01
Speaker 1: a year, and so hopefully we can get this defense
35:04
Speaker 1: running the right direction that we need to, which we will,
35:07
Speaker 1: there's zero doubt in my mind that we will. But
35:10
Speaker 1: it's good to see that we have a defense that
35:11
Speaker 1: we can actually lean on and not just get destroyed
35:15
Speaker 1: every game because we shovel on offense. But I think
35:18
Speaker 1: this one's gonna be the one where we have a
35:19
Speaker 1: breakout again. Hawkins has shown week over a week improvements.
35:23
Speaker 1: The line is now healthy. That's what we also saw
35:27
Speaker 1: on that list. The only one on that list now
35:30
Speaker 1: is Gary and Hatchett, and he's done for the year anyway,
35:31
Speaker 1: because Knew had showed to surgery. Yeah, everybody else is back.
35:36
Speaker 1: It feels good. It feels real good to be able
35:39
Speaker 1: to say we're not we're not rotating centers. We're not
35:42
Speaker 1: going through four centers anymore. Cool. Yeah, does that feel.
35:47
Speaker 2: I mean it feels great because I mean you also
35:50
Speaker 2: have a couple of key you have a couple of
35:52
Speaker 2: key reserves, and you know, you're still waiting for some
35:56
Speaker 2: of these younger kids who've been in now the system,
35:59
Speaker 2: you know, for a couple of months, guys like E. P.
36:01
Speaker 2: L Or Isaiah Autry. These guys are been looking for
36:03
Speaker 2: their time, uh to go. But you know it's hard
36:06
Speaker 2: to rotate a guy in and get him some play
36:09
Speaker 2: with some guys who know what they're doing. If you
36:12
Speaker 2: are on your thirteenth you know, line assortment, and so
36:16
Speaker 2: I mean it's going to be you know, there's still
36:19
Speaker 2: you know, the things that we're gonna want to see
36:21
Speaker 2: on the offensive line is how is Hickman's ankle is it?
36:25
Speaker 2: Is it up? Is it up to par? Like? Is
36:27
Speaker 2: he clear and healthy? Now? Jake Taylor was still you know,
36:33
Speaker 2: lumbering quite a bit, you know, against against Auburn, and so, uh,
36:38
Speaker 2: you know that's that's hopefully now you've got this and
36:43
Speaker 2: you've got you've got a lot of guys who are
36:45
Speaker 2: going to be at the game. I know that I'm
36:47
Speaker 2: probably going to be meeting up with a couple of
36:49
Speaker 2: the uh the recruits you know who are out and
36:52
Speaker 2: about walking around offensive line guys, and uh so I'm I'm,
36:56
Speaker 2: I'm pretty excited to you know, kind of hear what
36:58
Speaker 2: their what their thoughts are, because you know, now, like
37:00
Speaker 2: I said, this is three weeks in a row that
37:02
Speaker 2: you're playing with the same starting offensive line. So have
37:05
Speaker 2: they learned something together? Have they learned to communicate a
37:07
Speaker 2: little bit more by going on the road and playing
37:09
Speaker 2: on the road during a you know, in Auburn.
37:12
Speaker 1: Pretty hostile environment. Yeah, yeah, no, you're right. What what
37:19
Speaker 1: lessons have you pulled from playing in a stadium with
37:23
Speaker 1: eighty something thousand fans it with at least, we'll say,
37:28
Speaker 1: just to be on the conservative side, and the number
37:33
Speaker 1: seventy five thousand of them are anti Oklahoma, which is
37:37
Speaker 1: kind of funny. When I was there, you could tell
37:39
Speaker 1: that the Auburn fans had basically quit on their team
37:42
Speaker 1: because like really like Lower Bowl tickets were like sixty
37:45
Speaker 1: bucks a pop. They literally were giving them away. And
37:48
Speaker 1: when I got there, the ones I got a lotted
37:51
Speaker 1: and God initially were like nose bleeding, which we do
37:54
Speaker 1: the same thing to our visitors. They go straight to
37:57
Speaker 1: the nose bleed and I was like, noa, I ain't
38:03
Speaker 1: sitting up here. No I can't do it. So I
38:05
Speaker 1: went on see Gig looked at it. I'm like, oh wow,
38:08
Speaker 1: that's a lower bowl sea for like sixty bucks with fees.
38:13
Speaker 1: They were giving them seats away.
38:14
Speaker 2: Coop.
38:14
Speaker 1: They quit on their team. So because of that, i'ma
38:20
Speaker 1: be nice and say seventy thousand. But at the same time,
38:24
Speaker 1: like you said, they played in a hostile environment. The
38:26
Speaker 1: question is what is the continuity like in the communication
38:30
Speaker 1: in that situation, Because once you go into this game,
38:33
Speaker 1: once you get to half the field, you're gonna be
38:34
Speaker 1: hear nothing. The other half it's gonna be like quiet,
38:39
Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm sad that I'm not gonna be there
38:42
Speaker 1: for that, because that's just the best thing in the world.
38:45
Speaker 1: It's just that experience of being able to see the
38:47
Speaker 1: half and half. I really hope more SEC people come
38:50
Speaker 1: out and check this out, just like it's one of
38:52
Speaker 1: those bucket list games you just gotta go to just
38:54
Speaker 1: say you went, just put it in your mind, say
38:56
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna do it, because why you
39:05
Speaker 1: need it in your life. You need, you need, you
39:08
Speaker 1: need to say that you have been there, because I
39:09
Speaker 1: still want to go to the Big Game. I still
39:11
Speaker 1: want to go to Ohio State Michigan. But the only
39:12
Speaker 1: problem is it's like it's winter time. I don't know
39:16
Speaker 1: how I feel about that. That's gonna be cold.
39:18
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I cold doesn't bother me at all.
39:21
Speaker 2: I love I love the cold weather. I'm so excited
39:24
Speaker 2: to not have to wonder if I'm gonna uh you know,
39:27
Speaker 2: one to one my adult beverages and water bottles, uh
39:31
Speaker 2: you know here soon. But you know, I just uh,
39:34
Speaker 2: I mean, I absolutely would love to go see it,
39:37
Speaker 2: except for the fact of, like I think you kind
39:39
Speaker 2: of have to be like you have to be kind
39:41
Speaker 2: of like emotionally invested in one of the one of
39:43
Speaker 2: these games for it to mean that much. You know,
39:46
Speaker 2: you're gonna say you're gonna see it, but you know,
39:50
Speaker 2: because I mean that's the only thing that you know,
39:52
Speaker 2: I love this game. It's just something different, but that
39:55
Speaker 2: it's something that I've always wondered as like, you know,
39:58
Speaker 2: what if you did a two year hiatus every ten
40:00
Speaker 2: years to where you did ou down at DKR and uh,
40:04
Speaker 2: you know, one year and then up in Norman the
40:07
Speaker 2: next year. And don't know if financially the city of
40:11
Speaker 2: Dallas could afford that.
40:14
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, no no, that's a massive influx with not
40:17
Speaker 1: only do people come in there for that as well
40:19
Speaker 1: as the fair itself. Man, that environment itself is just
40:24
Speaker 1: unreal and just fun. People love it, and so I'm
40:29
Speaker 1: here for I'm here for it to stay in Dallas.
40:32
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been there ninety plus years, so we
40:36
Speaker 1: may as well. Why change it now? At this point
40:40
Speaker 1: we're stuck.
40:41
Speaker 2: It was like it was like when Ou and Texas
40:43
Speaker 2: played it was at twenty eighteen and played in Jerry
40:46
Speaker 2: World for the Big twelve Championship game, Like it just
40:49
Speaker 2: felt like a different game, Like it feel right? It
40:53
Speaker 2: was just different.
40:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, it didn't feel right. It just felt weird. Everything
40:58
Speaker 1: about it was like, I don't I felt like the
41:01
Speaker 1: energy was off in the Big twelve Championship game.
41:04
Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna lie, Jay. I mean, walking in
41:07
Speaker 2: public and being in big crowds are two things that
41:09
Speaker 2: I absolutely hate, uh because I hate when people just
41:13
Speaker 2: you know, will be walking full full uh full stream
41:16
Speaker 2: and then stop and turn around on a dime, like
41:19
Speaker 2: oh wait, there's not sixty five thousand people around me,
41:22
Speaker 2: and uh, but this is like the only time it
41:24
Speaker 2: doesn't bother me really, the only time.
41:29
Speaker 1: Man, I was it was the struggle was real trying
41:35
Speaker 1: to get in for me. Last year, it was a
41:39
Speaker 1: it was a battle people just the lines weren't moving.
41:42
Speaker 1: The renovations need to hurry up, because I think they
41:45
Speaker 1: start them this year. I think, is it this year?
41:51
Speaker 2: Is it?
41:51
Speaker 1: This? Is it? Is it? Is it? After this? After
41:53
Speaker 1: this Bowl season? They're starting to renovation.
41:56
Speaker 2: Honestly, don't know. Yeah, it's I couldn't. I couldn't tell you.
42:03
Speaker 1: See, let me look, I actually pulled the article up.
42:08
Speaker 1: It's two year, one hundred and forty dollars project, and
42:14
Speaker 1: they're adding all kinds of stuff.
42:17
Speaker 2: I wonder if that I wonder if that price went up.
42:20
Speaker 2: You gotta think it's it's it's north of like one
42:22
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five mil. Now.
42:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's gonna be after the State Fair
42:29
Speaker 1: and Red River and the plan is it to be
42:34
Speaker 1: completed by twenty twenty five before the State Fair next year.
42:39
Speaker 1: So I think they start after this game and then
42:41
Speaker 1: it should be done by next year, especially because the
42:48
Speaker 1: world Cup will be in North America in twenty six
42:52
Speaker 1: and I think that that's supposed to be one of
42:54
Speaker 1: the many venues that will be leveraged for World Cup.
43:01
Speaker 1: So I don't know, Blake, this is a good question.
43:04
Speaker 1: Cool what you think over under fifty points?
43:07
Speaker 2: Over?
43:10
Speaker 1: Why? I'm curious.
43:14
Speaker 2: I think that I really do think that. Like, I
43:19
Speaker 2: think that this is going to be a pretty tight game,
43:21
Speaker 2: and I think that it's going to kind of happen
43:23
Speaker 2: like last year to where you have, you know, both
43:26
Speaker 2: teams get ten to fourteen points in the last four
43:30
Speaker 2: minutes of the game, and so I mean that's that's so.
43:34
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're sitting at let's say you're sitting
43:37
Speaker 2: at twenty seventeen, and then both teams go down to
43:39
Speaker 2: score touchdown, if my math is correct, that would put
43:43
Speaker 2: you at fifty one. Correct, Yep, So that's over.
43:49
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm on the under. I am here with less
43:55
Speaker 1: here in this score range twenty four to twenty one
43:58
Speaker 1: or less. I don't think it's I think clock is
44:02
Speaker 1: gonna get ran. I think it's gonna be a low
44:05
Speaker 1: scoring game. I am under the fifty. It's gonna be
44:10
Speaker 1: weird to see a game that's gonna be that defensive focused.
44:14
Speaker 1: But that's what I expect.
44:16
Speaker 2: I almost talk myself out of it. I mean, like,
44:18
Speaker 2: as I'm sinner saying twenty seventeen, so that means the
44:20
Speaker 2: game ends up twenty seven to twenty four, which is
44:24
Speaker 2: it's fifty one. I mean, so it's not like I
44:26
Speaker 2: think it's going to be.
44:27
Speaker 1: Oh you're close, right, So that's in the range. So
44:31
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at it. That's actually a solid number
44:38
Speaker 1: area I would that's a number area I would be
44:43
Speaker 1: comfortable with. But because is it still fifty? Let me go,
44:48
Speaker 1: I've been pulling up real quick right now.
44:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, while you're I mean, while you're looking at that, Yeah,
44:55
Speaker 2: one of the one of the.
44:58
Speaker 1: What you got fifteen and a half fifty and a
45:01
Speaker 1: half and it's dropping. He started at fifty one and
45:04
Speaker 1: a half, so it's dropped a point so far. And
45:06
Speaker 1: it looks like most of the bets are on the under.
45:10
Speaker 2: Okay, so the money says that there's a it's not
45:16
Speaker 2: going to be a shootout.
45:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll know on Friday heavily. That's when usually the
45:25
Speaker 1: sharps really drop unless it's a line that they want
45:28
Speaker 1: to get on early the sharps usually drop all their
45:31
Speaker 1: money on the game's Friday because that's when all the
45:34
Speaker 1: injury reports come in. That will tell you what you
45:36
Speaker 1: need to know. And yeah, I'm still calling under I
45:44
Speaker 1: do like your score though, that would be a good
45:48
Speaker 1: one for us. I think, if anything, the biggest thing
45:51
Speaker 1: next is in order to get into that score range,
45:55
Speaker 1: not only does the run game have to be established.
46:00
Speaker 1: I just think that Michael Hawkins need to take advantage
46:02
Speaker 1: of the short pass very much, very much. He's gonna
46:07
Speaker 1: go deep. We know there's gonna be some deep passes
46:09
Speaker 1: in there. We know there's gonna be some of that.
46:11
Speaker 1: The most important thing though, is get those passes underneath
46:15
Speaker 1: and keep moving the chains if we can pull it
46:16
Speaker 1: like a Vanderbilt did where they literally just ran the
46:20
Speaker 1: clock down NonStop.
46:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean what you have to do is if
46:30
Speaker 2: you say the offense, I mean you can't. You can't
46:33
Speaker 2: get into a time of possession war which where it's uh,
46:37
Speaker 2: you know, it's you know, close to fifty percent to Texas,
46:40
Speaker 2: Like I mean, you you're going to have to keep
46:43
Speaker 2: it damn near even or even in favor of Oklahoma,
46:47
Speaker 2: and you're gonna have to make Texas. You know, press
46:50
Speaker 2: in in how how how do they handle that? You know,
46:54
Speaker 2: the Mississippi State game wasn't entirely not I know there
46:57
Speaker 2: was some turnovers there, but it wasn't was it for
47:00
Speaker 2: team to six at halftime? And and so, But they
47:04
Speaker 2: came out with their hair on fire against Michigan because
47:06
Speaker 2: I think what was it twenty eight to three or
47:09
Speaker 2: twenty eight to nothing time, It was somewhere in that one.
47:12
Speaker 2: But yeah, twenty four to three at halftime. So yeah,
47:17
Speaker 2: so you're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna see it. Because
47:20
Speaker 2: Quinn Quinn these games. I mean, he's he's got five touchdowns,
47:24
Speaker 2: three interceptions in his two starts against ou and you
47:30
Speaker 2: know he has he has two fumbles, one of them
47:34
Speaker 2: was on a scramble, one of them getting getting decked.
47:39
Speaker 2: He put the balls in harms way a few times.
47:42
Speaker 2: So I mean, it's it's going to be a game
47:44
Speaker 2: to where I, like I said, I think, oh, you
47:47
Speaker 2: need to win the turnover margin by two. I think
47:50
Speaker 2: that when you do win the turnover, you have to
47:54
Speaker 2: do something with it. That's one of the toughest things
47:56
Speaker 2: is I was going back and counting possessions and how
47:58
Speaker 2: many possessions, oh you has has has played on defense
48:03
Speaker 2: through the first five games. And if you do not
48:07
Speaker 2: give the pick six that Jackson Arnold threw to the defense,
48:11
Speaker 2: the defenses is given up just over a point for possession.
48:16
Speaker 2: So if you give Texas twelve possessions twelve points, you know,
48:24
Speaker 2: like that's uh but the end, that's that's that's you know,
48:28
Speaker 2: nerd nerd math ory. But you're gonna have to You're
48:31
Speaker 2: gonna have to do that. And it is is when
48:34
Speaker 2: if you need to kick a field goal, you got
48:36
Speaker 2: to hit them. You can't. You can't be taking a
48:38
Speaker 2: forty yard field goal, missing it and then letting Texas
48:41
Speaker 2: have the ball near midfield right away because now all
48:44
Speaker 2: of a sudden they've got some momentum and they want
48:46
Speaker 2: to go with it. And I know I texted this
48:49
Speaker 2: you to you earlier. But the the the experience of
48:52
Speaker 2: their offensive line allows them to run a lot of
48:55
Speaker 2: different run schemes and a lot of different pass schemes.
48:58
Speaker 2: They're familiar with a lot of different things, saying I
49:00
Speaker 2: believe that if you let them get comfortable with multiple
49:04
Speaker 2: different things, that's when they're the most dangerous. So it's
49:07
Speaker 2: got to be. It's got to be. You asked me, my, my,
49:11
Speaker 2: you know, difference maker on defense is the linebackers. I
49:14
Speaker 2: think the defensive line is going to continue to do
49:16
Speaker 2: what they've been doing this entire year. Fozzy said he
49:20
Speaker 2: was excited to see our Mason Thomas out there, but
49:24
Speaker 2: I think those defensive tackles are going to be the ones.
49:27
Speaker 2: It's do you allow the linebackers to get through and
49:31
Speaker 2: be free to do what they want to do. And
49:33
Speaker 2: that's what the defensive line has done this entire year.
49:36
Speaker 2: And that also means that the defensive ends, whether it's
49:39
Speaker 2: Willard Downs, our Mason, these guys are going to have
49:43
Speaker 2: to continue to blay the edge and keep the edge
49:46
Speaker 2: set and when it's time to crash, crash, when it's
49:49
Speaker 2: time to you know, stay wide, stay wide because there
49:52
Speaker 2: will be a lot of motion. And whether you played
49:55
Speaker 2: on the video game or watching real live, Texas is
49:57
Speaker 2: really really good at putting somebody in motion, just sometimes
50:00
Speaker 2: eye candy, sometimes for a purpose.
50:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, and that's what Starks does. He likes
50:05
Speaker 1: to have players moving around on a regular basis, which
50:08
Speaker 1: is why he's been so good as you know, offensive
50:12
Speaker 1: mind in college football, so yeah, I know it's gonna
50:15
Speaker 1: be some Uh, that's gonna be interesting. All right, what's
50:19
Speaker 1: your what's your final predictions score? We'll give that. We'll
50:24
Speaker 1: wrap up a little early.
50:25
Speaker 2: I said twenty seven to twenty four. I think I'm
50:27
Speaker 2: staying with that one right now. I think the I
50:30
Speaker 2: think the guys do it. I really do think that
50:33
Speaker 2: you're going to see a couple of h I think
50:35
Speaker 2: you need, you know, at least three drives of fifty
50:39
Speaker 2: yards plus, you know, unassisted by the by the offense. Uh,
50:43
Speaker 2: they need to be able to do that. And I
50:46
Speaker 2: you know, I would love to see a pick six
50:49
Speaker 2: or you know, a scoop and score type of a
50:50
Speaker 2: situation for the defense that that would help out too.
50:53
Speaker 2: But I here's here's what I think is with Tatum
50:56
Speaker 2: playing and you've got some more time with the wide receivers,
50:59
Speaker 2: you've got more capabilities. Nobody's going to be an eight
51:02
Speaker 2: catch guy, you know on the day, in the moment
51:06
Speaker 2: that you get guys stretching left and right and over pursuing.
51:10
Speaker 2: I think that with some of your zone insert and
51:12
Speaker 2: some of your counterplays, you can run the ball effectively.
51:16
Speaker 2: You know, doesn't owe you back get to one hundred yards.
51:19
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think Hawkins can get close
51:21
Speaker 2: to it. But I think the magic number for Oklahoma
51:23
Speaker 2: is they need to run for at least one hundred
51:25
Speaker 2: and sixty yards to make this game winnable.
51:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree with you there. I'm still in
51:32
Speaker 1: the twenty four to twenty range, low scoring, lots of defense,
51:37
Speaker 1: a turnover here and there in critical spots that's gonna
51:41
Speaker 1: help to propel it. I'm thinking that I don't think
51:46
Speaker 1: that our offense is going to have a problem driving
51:48
Speaker 1: the field in this game. A lot of people do
51:51
Speaker 1: believe that. I don't. There's been a few questions in
51:56
Speaker 1: here when I pop up so boom time as so,
51:58
Speaker 1: you think you'd be the same type of plays being
52:00
Speaker 1: called on offense or does Seth bring something completely different?
52:04
Speaker 1: Me personally, I think it's gonna be different. Think it's
52:07
Speaker 1: gonna be I don't think it's gonna be the same
52:08
Speaker 1: look that we've been seeing this entire time. What about you?
52:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's is exact is I think when you have
52:16
Speaker 2: in Benji, you you asked, you know, when did the
52:18
Speaker 2: r PO get such a bad rap? R P O
52:20
Speaker 2: works when you see something you pop up and you
52:23
Speaker 2: make a decision. If it's never the right decision, then
52:27
Speaker 2: the r p O is just a cluster of people
52:30
Speaker 2: stumbling around and and so yeah, I mean I think
52:33
Speaker 2: that that's a man I'll go with this. I think
52:39
Speaker 2: that Latrell got more of his game plan in uh
52:42
Speaker 2: this past two weeks. I think that you get a
52:45
Speaker 2: chance just to sit there work with Hawkins. He can
52:48
Speaker 2: take it. He understands the terminologies and you know, his
52:52
Speaker 2: dad is is no slouch. Mike Senior was a was
52:56
Speaker 2: a you know, he was an NFL player, and he's
52:58
Speaker 2: he's been around a lot of offense and he pays
53:00
Speaker 2: attention to that stuff. So U, I promise you that
53:03
Speaker 2: going in there for him, this is uh, this is
53:06
Speaker 2: very very uh. This is very gonna be a very
53:09
Speaker 2: very big deal for Michael Hawkins to walk in there
53:11
Speaker 2: and with some of the opportunity that he has in
53:13
Speaker 2: front of him.
53:15
Speaker 1: That's a good point. Blake asked, with some of the
53:18
Speaker 1: struggles we have passing, do you think a designed heavy
53:22
Speaker 1: package would help to keep possession time?
53:25
Speaker 2: Now?
53:27
Speaker 1: I think it'll be a combination of quick passes. We're
53:31
Speaker 1: gonna go deep like we did against Auburn, I know
53:34
Speaker 1: there'll be packages with you know, with Tatum as well
53:38
Speaker 1: as with Jacoby Johnson. I expect to see some of him.
53:41
Speaker 1: So it'll be a lot of stuff that we haven't
53:43
Speaker 1: really seen before. Since that they're gonna they're gonna get
53:46
Speaker 1: not only creative, but not cute with it. You see it,
53:50
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think it'll get creative
53:51
Speaker 1: with the plays, creative with the with the movement. They're
53:54
Speaker 1: gonna let Michael do to things, as you know, let
53:58
Speaker 1: help get comfortable on his own as well. I don't
54:00
Speaker 1: I don't see that. I don't think that we have
54:03
Speaker 1: to go just with a heavy package to keep in time.
54:07
Speaker 1: I think everything you just got to just execute.
54:10
Speaker 2: And heavy package works when your tight ends block well,
54:14
Speaker 2: and that has not been something that has happened up
54:17
Speaker 2: to this point. I think that you need to be
54:20
Speaker 2: pretty realistic with you know who Bower Sharp is. Bower
54:24
Speaker 2: Sharp is a good receiving tight end, and so we
54:26
Speaker 2: need to see more like what we saw in the
54:29
Speaker 2: the long completion that the bad acting job happened on Roberts.
54:33
Speaker 2: You need to see him out and out in space
54:35
Speaker 2: with with with some with some space to run. And
54:40
Speaker 2: so I think that if you do see, you know,
54:42
Speaker 2: the the twelve personnel with two tight ends, I think
54:45
Speaker 2: that's going to be a Yeah, the Starship to destroy
54:48
Speaker 2: your package, I'd love to see that somebody. Somebody's been
54:54
Speaker 2: running it. God it was Old Miss. I think Old
54:58
Speaker 2: Miss has been running a very of that. They've been
55:01
Speaker 2: hitting off to like a three and twenty five pound
55:03
Speaker 2: defensive tackle and he's got like two carries for two
55:07
Speaker 2: touchdowns for two yards. So yeah, I want to see
55:12
Speaker 2: Lovesey epl and the jet sweep down on the goal line.
55:14
Speaker 2: But let's uh, let's handle an HB dive correctly the
55:19
Speaker 2: first time and then we can start getting tricky.
55:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, the star Destroyer package is going to be interesting.
55:26
Speaker 1: I'm ready to see what that's going to be like,
55:30
Speaker 1: just saying, kind of curious to what exactly that is
55:34
Speaker 1: supposed to be. Truth asked a pretty good question. He said,
55:43
Speaker 1: Let's say all Koma gets two turnovers, one on our
55:45
Speaker 1: end and one on your end of the field. How
55:47
Speaker 1: many points do you get off of them? Steven said ten.
55:51
Speaker 1: I can agree with that. I don't. I don't think
55:55
Speaker 1: the offense is going to be as a kneemack as
55:58
Speaker 1: y'all as you Texas fans believe, right, we we've made
56:03
Speaker 1: a lot of changes over the last four weeks. I
56:06
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be what y'all think it's gonna be.
56:09
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be just nonexistent. I think the offense
56:12
Speaker 1: is actually going to move the ball on you all, Coop,
56:15
Speaker 1: because we can actually throw the ball.
56:19
Speaker 2: I think we have the opportunity. I mean, you're looking
56:22
Speaker 2: at seven points. You know I'm not gonna you know,
56:27
Speaker 2: here's what I don't want is I don't want us
56:29
Speaker 2: to get a turnover on let's go with you guys
56:31
Speaker 2: are trying to go in a score, We get the
56:33
Speaker 2: ball at the thirty yard line and then we go
56:35
Speaker 2: three and out. Like, I don't care for that. I mean,
56:40
Speaker 2: if you get two or three first downs in punt
56:42
Speaker 2: and just you know, reset the field, that's fine. And
56:44
Speaker 2: especially with Elzinga, you know, if you have him kicking
56:47
Speaker 2: from the forty yard line and you know that's it.
56:49
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what you want to do. But that's
56:51
Speaker 2: a tall ask that the ask truth is to to
56:54
Speaker 2: not piss down your leg and do three and out
56:57
Speaker 2: and take eleven seconds off the clock.
56:59
Speaker 1: Yes, the goal is to keep the clock running. And
57:03
Speaker 1: that's my expectation when it comes to us getting the
57:07
Speaker 1: ball off. A turnover is running through the clock, and
57:10
Speaker 1: the good thing is again it should be a different
57:14
Speaker 1: look in comparison to what we had before. So yeah,
57:20
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. All right, I'm out. I gotta
57:24
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