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5 years after Jan. 6 insurrection, political divide persists · DEEP INSIGHT

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  Speaker 1: Members of the former January sixth Select Committee are holding
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  Speaker 1: in unofficial hearing to re examine their findings regarding what
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  Speaker 1: happened during that Capitol Hill insurrection. The discussion comes five
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  Speaker 1: years to the day after supporters of Donald Trump stormed
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  Speaker 1: the US capital intent on stopping the results of the
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty presidential election from being certified. The committee found
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  Speaker 1: the violence was fueled in part by the urgings of
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  Speaker 1: President Trump, who wrongfully insisted that the election was stolen
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  Speaker 1: from him. Last hour, one of the Democratic leaders of
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  Speaker 1: the committee spoke about why it's so critical to revisit
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  Speaker 1: what happened.
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  Speaker 2: Then listen, remember, January sixth is not an exercise in partisanship.
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  Speaker 2: It's an obligation to those who have sacrificed for this
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  Speaker 2: country and all those who will in the future. Democracy
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  Speaker 2: depens on the courage of those who will defend it,
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  Speaker 2: and on our willingness to hold accountable those who wish
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  Speaker 2: to discro it. Today's forum is another step toward the
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  Speaker 2: goal of justice, another way of honoring our oath, another
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  Speaker 2: way of showing that our constitutional republic is bigger and
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  Speaker 2: stronger than its enemies or one man.
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  Speaker 3: All right, let's go live now to see it in
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  Speaker 3: Chief Congressional Correspondent Money Raju on Capitol Hill, Monty. What's
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  Speaker 3: the reaction been on the Hill to this meeting and
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  Speaker 3: this unofficial hearing.
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  Speaker 4: Well, Republicans are ignoring this altogether. And that is in
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  Speaker 4: keeping in how this day, which once unified the two parties,
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  Speaker 4: has now led to deep divisions over the last several
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  Speaker 4: years because of large part because of Donald Trump and
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  Speaker 4: what he has said and what about January six and
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  Speaker 4: what he has called this a day of love and
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  Speaker 4: defended January sixth riders, ultimately leading to pardoning all of
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  Speaker 4: the January sixth riders on his first day in his
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  Speaker 4: second term in office. A much different than it was
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  Speaker 4: five years ago on this day. I was in this
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  Speaker 4: building at that time, and at that point Republicans and
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  Speaker 4: Democrats are like were universally condemning what happened that we
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  Speaker 4: were condemning the rioters. But now we're seeing Democrats are
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  Speaker 4: having this hearing today. Remember they're in the minority in
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  Speaker 4: the House, so it's now a mock hearing of source
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  Speaker 4: that's happening in the House, and in the House of
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  Speaker 4: Republican majority. They're in a retreat, right now with Donald
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  Speaker 4: Trump talking about a whole host of other issues not
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  Speaker 4: on this one, but perhaps one issue is exemplifies the
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  Speaker 4: divide over January six, as the hanging of a plaque
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  Speaker 4: that was required under federal law to be done by
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty three in the United States House of Representatives,
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  Speaker 4: the Speaker of the House has been criticized by Democrats
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  Speaker 4: for refusing to hang a plaque commemdoring the police officers
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  Speaker 4: who defended the capital on that day, and this came
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  Speaker 4: up in the hearing earlier today from Congressman Jamie Raskin,
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  Speaker 4: who helped investigate the January six attack.
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  Speaker 5: Republicans today are observing this solemn anniversary by doing exactly nothing.
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  Speaker 5: They've even refused to hang up the plaque which a
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  Speaker 5: bipartisan congressional majority voted to put up to honor the
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  Speaker 5: officers who defended the Capitol and the peaceful transfer of
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  Speaker 5: power and the vice president on j six. Took them
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  Speaker 5: twenty four hours to put up a new plaque allegedly
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  Speaker 5: changing the name of the Kennedy Center to the Trump
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  Speaker 5: Kennedy Center. Twenty four hours and that was illegal. That's
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  Speaker 5: like graffiti that was put up on the Kennedy Center building.
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  Speaker 5: They have a legal requirement to put it up, and
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  Speaker 5: I call on Speaker Johnson to put it up today.
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  Speaker 4: And Speakers Johnson's office responded to questions about this just
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  Speaker 4: in the past day or so, a spokesperson saying that
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  Speaker 4: it's quote not implementable to hang up that commemorative plaque.
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  Speaker 4: Didn't elaborate exactly what was not implementable about it, but
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  Speaker 4: went on to say if Democrats are seers about commemorating
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  Speaker 4: the work of us CP officers, they are free to
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  Speaker 4: work with the appropriate committees of jurisdiction to develop a
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  Speaker 4: framework for proper vetting and consideration so that their wolf
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  Speaker 4: just shows you how this day now fundamentally divides the
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  Speaker 4: two parties at this moment in the Capitol.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, what a change, What a change over these last
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  Speaker 3: several years.
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  Speaker 6: Money Rajo on Capitol Hill, Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: And I want to play a bit of our live
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  Speaker 1: coverage from January sixth, twenty twenty one, as myself, my
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  Speaker 1: co anchor Pamela Brown, and I we were watching that
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  Speaker 1: historic day unfold live watch this, John.
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  Speaker 7: You and I have been in Washington for a long time.
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  Speaker 7: This is unprecedented. It is dangerous and it is so
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  Speaker 7: so embarrassing for the United States of America. This is
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  Speaker 7: the United States Congress and you see these law enforcement
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  Speaker 7: officers with their weapons pointing toward that window.
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  Speaker 1: Looks like it was smashed.
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  Speaker 7: Pamela Brown, you're getting more information from inside as well.
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  Speaker 3: I sure am. A law enforcement source tells me Wolfe
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  Speaker 3: that there is an MPD officer inside the Capitol building
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  Speaker 3: who called in in distress. An officer in distress inside
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  Speaker 3: the Capitol building. This was around fifteen minutes ago or so,
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  Speaker 3: and that officer is asking for additional assets to be
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  Speaker 3: deployed to him inside the Capitol building.
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  Speaker 8: Tenny marks five years since the January sixth attack on
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  Speaker 8: the US Capitol, when rioters attempted to stop a joint
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  Speaker 8: session of Congress from declaring the winner of the twenty
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  Speaker 8: twenty presidential election. This morning, members of the former January
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  Speaker 8: sixth Select Committee will convene it hearing to quote set
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  Speaker 8: the record straight on the insurrection. At the same time,
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  Speaker 8: members of the far right Proud Boys are expected to
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  Speaker 8: hold a.
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  Speaker 6: March to the Capitol.
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  Speaker 8: They say it will be patriotic and peaceful with us.
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  Speaker 8: Now is Nora News, founder of Long form Lab Media
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  Speaker 8: and author of a brand new bout this week, twenty
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  Speaker 8: four four Hours at the Capitol, an oral history of
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  Speaker 8: the January sixth Insurrection. Nura also had happens to be
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  Speaker 8: my former producer here at CNN.
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  Speaker 6: So it's great to see you. Great work once again with.
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  Speaker 9: These books that you tend to be on this side
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  Speaker 9: of it.
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  Speaker 8: Why do you write this and what do you think
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  Speaker 8: people are going to learn from this?
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  Speaker 9: There are so many different narratives about what actually happened
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  Speaker 9: on January sixth, narratives that intentionally have become changed and
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  Speaker 9: politically modified and rewritten really and so this book is
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  Speaker 9: an attempt to kind of lay out almost a definitive
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  Speaker 9: account of exactly what happened from people that were different
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  Speaker 9: parts of this riot, you know, different parts of the
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  Speaker 9: crowd inside the building, outside the building, in law enforcement.
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  Speaker 9: At the end of the day, I think this book
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  Speaker 9: makes you feel like you were really there experiencing it yourself,
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  Speaker 9: and it's horrifying.
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  Speaker 8: And it's so interesting because we keep showing these pictures
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  Speaker 8: which we've become used to, i think in a way
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  Speaker 8: numb to in some cases. And it's the wide shots,
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  Speaker 8: even some of the more close up shots.
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  Speaker 6: Like this, but they don't always.
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  Speaker 8: Paint a full picture of what it was to be
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  Speaker 8: like they're witnessing it, and you get those accounts from
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  Speaker 8: people that you talk to, and we have SAM we
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  Speaker 8: should make clear that all of the people you talk
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  Speaker 8: to this is a pure oral history. You have recordings
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  Speaker 8: of all of it. I want to play one piece
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  Speaker 8: of sound from someone who was with National Geographic.
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  Speaker 6: Just explain to me where he was.
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  Speaker 9: So he was in the crowd and kind of this
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  Speaker 9: quote is when he's crusting up over this hill and
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  Speaker 9: kind of sees exactly the melee and the riot that
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  Speaker 9: I started to happen.
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  Speaker 6: All right, let's listen.
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  Speaker 10: They were within a bigger crowd like a trojan horse,
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  Speaker 10: you know, because they use the mass. And I thought, oh,
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  Speaker 10: I know, these guys kevlar vests, kevlar helmets, baseball bats,
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  Speaker 10: two by fours, flagpoles that are really masking a club
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  Speaker 10: or a weapon of some kind.
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  Speaker 6: A lot of the gloves.
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  Speaker 10: You'd see him in Afghanistan, where their gloves with these
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  Speaker 10: fiberglass knuckles, you know, just people who came prepared to fight,
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  Speaker 10: not to just protest, but prepared to attack.
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  Speaker 8: And he was in the middle of it and feeling it,
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  Speaker 8: which can be different than seeing these big pictures that
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  Speaker 8: we see.
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  Speaker 9: A lot of these photojournalists are actually war reporters who
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  Speaker 9: are only stateside because it was COVID, and so these
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  Speaker 9: are guys who have crazy experience. This specific man is
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  Speaker 9: ten years as a war correspondent, and he said he's
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  Speaker 9: never really seen anything quite like this.
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  Speaker 6: You did not speak to the insurrectionists.
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  Speaker 9: Why two things. First of all, best practice in combating
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  Speaker 9: the rise of fascism and the far right in the
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  Speaker 9: US is to not give these guys any more oxygen,
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  Speaker 9: is to not let them spread their propaganda. But also,
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  Speaker 9: in a very real sense, I didn't need to. They
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  Speaker 9: love telling their own story. They have said as much
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  Speaker 9: as they're going to say about what happened that day,
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  Speaker 9: And there's depositions, there's court documents. I've read thousands of
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  Speaker 9: pages of them talking, and their voices are in this book.
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  Speaker 8: Very quickly, there's been some reessence to this book in general,
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  Speaker 8: as you've been trying to get publicity for it.
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  Speaker 9: This is my fourth book, and it's the first time
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  Speaker 9: that I've had bookstores, libraries, universities say we don't want
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  Speaker 9: to host you. For an event because it's just too sensitive.
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  Speaker 9: I've had events canceled, I've had event folks say kind
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  Speaker 9: of amorphous security concerns. That just feels like preemptive censorship.
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  Speaker 6: It's interesting.
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  Speaker 8: It does tell you something about where this is right
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  Speaker 8: now in our country's history.
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  Speaker 6: And Ora, and it's great to see you to see it.
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  Speaker 6: Great work as always. Thank you, thank you so much,
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  Speaker 6: thanks for doing the work.
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  Speaker 9: It's good to see you again.