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the top lesbian moments from the wicked press tour · gasp! the pod

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  I don't care what people say. Welcome back gaspers to Gasp,
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  the pod, the podcast for the gays, the girls, and especially
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  magazine you pass in the grocery store.
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  It's the Facebook video that your mom sends you a week after
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  this already happened. It's the video of Cynthia Areevo
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  swooping in like a lesbian night to save Ariana Grande from a
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  crazed fan during the press tour of Wicked.
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  For good with the second part of Wicked Did the movie releasing
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  this week. This viral moment was just one
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  of so many trending videos taking over the Internet showing
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  the intense, seemingly sapphic bond that is shared between
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  Ariana Grande and Cynthia Rivo, AKA Glinda and Alphaba, the two
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  witches. I know what you might be
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  thinking. I didn't know this was
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  happening. The concept of Alphaba and
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  Glinda as a sapphic couple. Is it true?
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  Could Glinda really swing for the green?
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  If you haven't seen all the evidence, I'm going to present
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  it to you. And you know, we're unsure if
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  they're together, so you can make your own assumption.
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  And yes, it's OK to assume that people are gay because we do it
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  all the time for two straight actors, when they're like, at a
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  press tour for a movie, we're always like, we are there
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  together. So we're going to do the same
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  thing for two women. OK.
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  I'm going to unearth the most lesbian moments that have
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  happened over the course of the Wicked movie press tour slash
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  fever dream. There are so many like viral
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  moments and like crazy things that have happened over the
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  course of the last few years of promotion of these two films.
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  And it's like honestly overwhelming.
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  So I'm only going to talk about the gay parts.
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  Like there's a lot of like bizarre moments.
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  There's a lot of like weird things.
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  There's a lot of funny moments. Like there's so much.
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  So I'm not going to go into all of that.
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  This is going to be specifically queer.
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  And even in the queer moments, there's been so many.
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  So I've decided to break these up into three categories. 3 pots
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  of evidence, if you will. Category one is gay
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  clarification. So times that Cynthia, Ariana
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  have like clarified the gayness either in their relationship or
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  the relationship of their characters or the movie itself,
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  right? Category 2 is going to be called
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  loving each other on such a level that only a lesbian couple
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  has the capacity for. I feel like that's kind of
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  self-explanatory. And category 3 will be sexual
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  tension, right? Let's dig in.
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  Let's move on to category one. I will put the like picture of
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  the screenshot from the clip I'm talking about in the YouTube
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  video that I'm posting. And so you can kind of see in
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  reference what I'm talking about.
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  I'm also going to play the audio over it.
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  Their relationship. And yes, I do believe that like
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  you can be friends and very close friends.
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  Like I think female friendship is so important and also like
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  love that this movie be like Wicked franchise in general is
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  like one of the only like franchises.
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  I feel like that really the center is female friendship.
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  However, that does not take away from the gayness.
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  It almost adds to the queerness. Like I think it's so frustrating
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  seeing on the Internet people are like, or they could just be
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  friends. It's like what has been
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  demonized though guys? They're like, have you ever
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  heard of friends? It's like, yeah, everyone's only
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  heard of 2 girls being friends. Have you ever heard of lesbians?
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  It is so possible that they're very close friendship bond has
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  turned sexual or romantic or like, just homoerotic in
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  general. We know Cynthia Rivo is out as
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  queer. We know Ariana Grande has
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  unlabeled herself and like has had many moments where she's
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  like, hinted at herself being queer.
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  So it's not beyond comprehension that these two bitches admits
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  their emotional bond also got to a romantic level.
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  And don't start with like Oh no they're both in relationships.
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  Pretty sure SpongeBob and Ariana broke it off.
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  Second of all, Cynthia and Lena Wait, I'm also pretty sure are
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  broken up and I don't really care because Lena Wait is a
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  cheater anyways, so she deserves to get cheated on.
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  You heard that right. So do I really think that
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  they're like an active couple? I don't know.
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  I don't think they're like in a relationship, but I feel like
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  what they share is homoerotic at minimum.
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  And probably it's been more than that.
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  There's something else going on and whatever we're seeing is gay
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  on the screen. A lot of this also might be for
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  promotion, but I do believe that they are actually very close in
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  real life. All right, let's get into it.
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  Category 1, gay clarification. We're just going to go through
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  all these moments together. They're not all from the most
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  recent press tour. They're like from the whole
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  press tour. OK, The first one is Ariana
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  wanting to interject when Cynthia is talking about Alphaba
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  and Fiero, like being in love. A lot of these gay clarification
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  moments are Ariana and and Cynthia.
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  But like a lot of the times, Ariana clarifying that like
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  we're maybe interpreting the movie in a straighter way than
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  it was intended to be. And like she loves pointing out
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  the connection between Alphaba and Glenda.
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  So like, I'll put the picture up, OK, I'm going to play the
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  audio. And they they're.
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  In love. And it takes them a second to to
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  find out who they are and find each other and I think.
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  That literally Arianae face when Cynthia is talking about Alphaba
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  and Fiero being in love, she's like about to be like no, I
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  don't think that they're in love.
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  I think actually the love story is Glenda and Alphaba.
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  Like she is peeved at the idea that like Fiero and Alphaba are
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  like lovers or like true lovers, right?
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  Okay, this next one is Ariana saying that Glenda might be a
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  little in the closet. Like you cannot get gayer than
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  like someone talking about a character that they played and
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  being like, I think that they're in the closet, which I think a
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  lot of queer people interpreted this ANYWAYS, that like she only
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  wants to be with Fiera because he's popular and like she's
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  giving hyper femme, which is so amazing to like hear an actual
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  actress like say that. Whether it's romantic or
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  platonic or, you know, maybe Glynda might be a little in the
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  closet, but if there were time, you know, you never know.
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  Give it a little more time. But no, I, I, I mean, it is just
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  a true love. And I think that is like
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  transcends sexuality. It's just kind of a deep safety
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  within each other. She literally puts her hand like
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  in the gay flop way when she says that I just so fucking
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  iconic that she's like Yep I think the clit does send the
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  claws at this point. Cynthia is like, sure, I guess
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  like what? But I agree like I think it
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  makes sense like that she would be in the closet.
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  And they say so many times how connected they are with their
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  characters. It's like, bitch, you're in the
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  closet too. Someone who wasn't a little
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  annoyed that they were perceived constantly straight would not be
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  trying to clarify this much gayness because, like, she's
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  thinking about queerness all the time if she's, like, constantly
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  bringing up the connection, the, like, romantic connection
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  between Alphaba and Glenda, and then even saying Glenda's in the
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  closet. OK.
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  And then we have Cynthia saying that Alphaba is just, like you
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  when she's talking about, like, what she wants to say to the
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  queer community. And so that's pretty much her
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  saying that Alphaba is queer. Hello.
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  That I love you. Alpha BA is just like you.
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  Hello. How many times do they have to
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  say that these characters are queer and fell in love?
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  Mainstream media is not getting it.
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  OK, OK. And then in the same interview,
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  this is with GLAAD, Ariana is saying that he goes, I love my
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  queer brothers and sisters. And like people can interpret
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  that as her being like an ally, but it's really giving like we
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  are siblings, like we are related because I am queer as
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  well. Beautiful community in the
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  entire world and yeah, I love my queer brothers and sisters so
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  much more than anything. Giving gay bitch.
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  And then we have the quote of Oz is a very queer place.
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  Do we think that maybe Fiero likes the attention from both?
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  I don't know. Well.
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  Oz is Oz is a very queer place. I've always been.
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  Yeah, even from the L Frank Baum books, it's always been queer.
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  Yeah. I think so for sure.
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  Gay. Yeah.
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  So that's cementedly gay. Like, there's no other way to
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  interpret that. They're saying Oz is gay.
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  The characters are gay. They fell in love and like, just
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  and like how much they like, felt, felt their characters.
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  You wouldn't be trying to talk about how queer your characters
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  were for no reason if you weren't also feeling that
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  connection with each other. It's just so funny, like how
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  much conversation has been about gayness over this movie and
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  their relationship. And like, could really easily
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  miss that in the movie. Like straight people are going
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  to watch this movie and not catch any gayness besides like
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  the main characters that are supposed to be gay, like Bowen
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  Yang's character, you know, besides that, a straight eye
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  would not catch the queerness between the two.
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  But that's why it's so funny that they're like talking about
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  gayness all the time with the movie.
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  Moving on to category two, you guys loving each other on such a
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  level that only a lesbian couple has the capacity for this is
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  something that is very easily disguised and covered up by the
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  idea of female friendship. And I kind of touched this on my
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  last episode on Victoria's Secret.
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  But how like we assume that people are like just friends
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  because girls like touch each other all the time and that
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  that's like normal. And yet like that also could be
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  gayness. That also could just could be
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  lesbian sapphic Ness. And it's kind of annoying.
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  Like just because you're saying that this is queer does not take
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  away from female friendships. Female friendships are OK.
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  They're good. Who's not OK in the world right
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  now? Lesbians.
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  So we can assume people are gay sometimes because we've all had
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  female friends. We know what a female friendship
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  is like. This is a hypermax level.
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  And just because 2 girls like can hold hands as friends
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  doesn't mean it's, it's not all so queer to do that.
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  Like it's just annoying because like, I feel like you can't say
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  anyone's gay because everyone's like, Oh my God, they're just
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  friends. Like Karlie Kloss and Taylor
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  Swift. It's like who holds hands
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  walking into a basketball game like that, like looking all
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  proud. But we can just be like, Oh my
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  God, they're friends because like everyone holds hands with
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  their friends. There's a distinction, OK?
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  There is a lesbian level of friendship that supersedes a
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  normal relationship and a normal friendship.
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  And the way that these two talk about each other is just the
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  level that only lesbians, not lesbians, queer women can really
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  see in each other as two women. It is a friendship that is like
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  an emotional love that is beyond platonicness.
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  And I don't care what you say, I'm sorry.
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  First of all, the touching in the interviews, they constantly
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  are touching. They're constantly wanting to be
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  in each other's space. It's giving EU hauled and like
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  they got connected on the set and then they never wanted to
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  stop being around each other. Then the crying in interviews,
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  like constantly tearing up when the other person is not even
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  saying anything. Everyone's so confused because
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  they're like what happened on this set and it's like they're
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  in love. That's why they're crying so
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  much because they found each other.
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  Like it's so lesbian to be like crying about how grateful you
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  are about the other person. Like that's not a normal
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  friendship unless they were trauma bonded, which that as
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  well. It's possible to do both.
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  Cynthia during like red carpet interviews and just like at all
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  times whenever there's a camera on them is constantly
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  readjusting Ariana's clothing and jewelry to a point where we
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  all see that there's nothing going on.
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  There's nothing wrong with Ariana's jewelry that needs
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  fixing and she just wants to touch her and like dote on her.
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  I know a lot of people have talked about like, not saying
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  that Cynthia is a stud just because she's like black and
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  bald. And I think that's a really
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  important conversation because when Cynthia like, saved Ariana
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  from this crazed fan, people started calling her like a stud.
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  And it's like, OK, she is like pretty femme, but I also think
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  that you can be gay and also protective.
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  Like she is obviously this like more protective doting partner.
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  Like to Ariana. Like it's just so obvious that
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  she has that like instinct to like save her.
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  That doesn't mean she's like a mask.
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  And that doesn't mean that she's like a stud, but I do feel like
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  she is like the lesbian night for Ariana because she is just
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  constantly looking to see if she can like find a way to touch
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  her. And in this interview, I'm about
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  to show you, Ariana literally is like, umm, there's nothing
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  wrong, but she just likes to do this.
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  Like imagine what happens behind closed doors, guys.
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  Imagine what happens. Like this is only what we're
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  seeing. Imagine what what they're like.
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  Like one of them comes over to the other person's apartment.
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  I'm sorry, not they don't have apartments.
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  They have fucking mansions. I don't know what I'm talking
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  about. Like they're going to be,
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  they're probably cuddling as they sleep.
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  Like they are all up in each other's personal space.
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  The other damning aspect of their relationship.
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  And I'll show the clip in a second.
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  Leno Waithe posting Instagram Stories about how she's, like,
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  pretty much, like, jealous and peeved of their relationship on
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  the press tour. It would be one thing if, like,
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  you thought that this was all for promotion of the movie.
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  And, like, you know, you knew that your partner was aware this
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  is for promotion of the movie. But Len is over here seeing this
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  and being like, what the fuck is going on?
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  And I do think they broke up because of it.
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  And that's why I think there might have been something more
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  to this. They actually got together.
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  I mean, burn SpongeBob broke up. I will never call him his real
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  name. I'm sorry.
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  I mean, I kind of feel bad for him.
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  Wait, no, actually I don't because he cheated on his wife.
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  Probably. But whatever.
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  Let me, let me roll the clip. Something's bothering her.
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  She's gonna fix something. Sorry.
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  She's she's getting the fixing itch.
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  But Cynthia Aretho, guys. Like what are you doing?
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  Like it kind of goes on for a while where like the interview
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  where like is like doesn't know if he should like keep talking
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  to her. And because Ariana is just like
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  silent and Cynthia is just like kind of touching her neck.
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  So he's like, like, the interview was probably like,
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  should I leave? Like, what's going on here?
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  Just, OK. Trying to find, like, a real
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  reason to be able to touch her in public.
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  Come on. OK.
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  Not only do they, like, hold hands, they're touching each
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  other all the time, but they also, like, kiss each other's
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  hands. You can't make this shit up.
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  Everyone's like, female friendship.
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  Have you guys ever had a female friend?
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  I can't imagine that I ever kissed their hand when I was
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  holding their hand if I did hold their hand.
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  And maybe I'm not the most touchy emotional person, but
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  like, when are we gonna admit that that's gay as fuck?
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  OK. And then we have this clip of
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  Ariana says, like, about talks about their connection in like,
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  the most dramatic way, almost like an Emily Dickinson love
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  letter. You can't make this shit up.
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  I learned. So much spending time with
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  Alphabet and with Cynthia. It reconfigured my DNA as a
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  human being. She reconfigured my DNA.
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  There's nothing else to say more touching more touching between
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  them because they can't take their skinnies off of each
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  other. Sorry.
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  It's not wrong to say I'm going to show these pictures, but like
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  how they touch each other is so crazy and then they're also just
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  saying I love you like all the time it's giving couples
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  supporting each other on the red carpet.
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  OK, then we have a moment that I'm going to call quote, look
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  into her eyes. It's.
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  Otherworldly. I'll never forget a, you know,
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  filming with. Her.
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  It's so easy to be in a scene with her because you look at her
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  eyes and you know she's telling the truth.
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  Gay. Hey.
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  And if you're wondering, OK, this is like sisterhood love.
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  They're not in love. Really because Ariana says that
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  they fell in love with each other.
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  And yeah, you could be like, guys, that's just female
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  friendship. Girls say that all the time.
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  But at what point, besides practically kissing each other
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  on the mouth, can we say it's lesbian?
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  It's sapphic. Very different women just fall
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  completely in love with each other and that is mirrored
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  experience of what happened with Cynthia and I.
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  She's saying that the characters fall in love with each other and
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  she and Cynthia fell in love with each other.
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  Wrap it up. Pack it up, guys.
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  That's gay. I don't care what people say.
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  All right, our final category, category three, sexual tension.
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  Because no, this movie and this press tour is not all just
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  sapphic longing and clarifying that the characters are gay.
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  There is also sexual tension between these two gay bitches.
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  Let's talk about it. Can I submit evidence?
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  A a piece that I like to call work baby, Work baby.
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  And like, I see the assumption that this is like, all right,
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  get it, queen, You know what I mean?
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  But, and this is on a red carpet, Cynthia cheering on
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  Ariana and saying work baby. It just feels like you're
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  supporting your wife. Like she's watching her up there
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  and she's like, work it baby, love you baby.
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  Like I can't. OK.
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  And then we have this deleted scene that I don't know if you
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  guys have seen has been taken out out of the movie.
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  And apparently there's like a few deleted scenes.
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  I'm going to put the screenshots up, but there's one where
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  they're like looking at each other and and I I know that
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  Cynthia's not masked and I don't think alphabet is masked either,
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  but like she looks like a Prince and her like femme Princess here
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  like they're. That is a lesbian couple that
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  we're looking at and then that was taken out of the movie.
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  That is lesbian prom. And then we also have this scene
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  that like Ariana, not Ariana, Glenda and Alpha, but like catch
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  each other, like looking at each other.
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  And I, there's no way to interpret what we're seeing here
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  in the Stelia scene besides lesbian sexual tension, like
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  wanting to explore something, being curious about something
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  that is not a friendship look. And so I do wonder if maybe
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  people would have gotten a gayer idea if these scenes were kept
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  in. And let's remember, Ariana and
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  Cynthia did actually film these scenes, so that might have led
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  them to even more of a sapphic level of a relationship, right?
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  Then we have this time where Ariana describes hearing
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  Cynthia's voice as raw, her raw voice.
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  And I understand she's talking about her like unedited voice,
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  but it's you can't make this shit up.
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  I also do feel like, you know that like Internet thing where
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  it's like, oh, like you fell first.
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  I fell harder. I feel like Cynthia fell first.
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  Ariana fell harder because the way that Ariana talks about
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  Cynthia, I know they both, but I feel like Ariana is like in love
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  and has never had this level of relationship with someone and is
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  just like not used to maybe the emotional depth that you can get
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  with someone. That's kind of what it's giving
• 21:32
  because a lot of these are like pushed on by Ariana, her like
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  being gayer than the out. Queer woman here.
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  To like literally the back of the and be alone during.
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  I'm not that girl so that I can just watch and cry.
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  I'm very spoiled to have spent the whole year with just her raw
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  voice in my. Very spoiled to have had her raw
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  voice in me. Moving on this.
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  We only have like 2 more. OK this is one of the most
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  absurd things I've heard. That is how close you feel like
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  with a girlfriend and also like the sexual aspect.
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  I'm just going to let you guys hear it if you guys haven't
• 22:08
  already heard this because what do you mean Ariana?
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  I feel like she's like in her first WLW relationship and
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  cannot control herself every time.
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  She opens her mouth. I pee.
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  So silly. Cynthia's like, girl, you've got
• 22:23
  to play it cool. What do you mean?
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  Every time she opens her mouth, I pee.
• 22:29
  There's nothing else to say. Finally, the final chapter of
• 22:33
  the sexual tension proof is the iconic finger hold.
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  No one wants to touch a girl's finger as much as a gay girl
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  does. I'm just telling you like,
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  that's a fact. Why are you trying to touch her
• 22:45
  all the time and like, support her with like even just the
• 22:49
  finger holds? It's bizarre.
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  And the reason why it's bizarre is because they're not just
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  friends. It's because they're also
• 22:55
  lovers. And when are we going to get hip
• 22:57
  to that? I don't know.
• 22:59
  What do you guys think? Are you convinced?
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  Do you think that there is any level of romanticism or
• 23:05
  homoeroticism between these two? Do you think that the original
• 23:09
  intent of Wicked was to be that these two witches were actually
• 23:13
  like in love with each other? Do you think that they edited
• 23:16
  that out? What do you guys think?
• 23:18
  Let me know your thoughts. I will see you in in two weeks
• 23:22
  and I will have a special guest with me.
• 23:23
  We're going to be talking Gaylord again.
• 23:26
  Yeah. Reminder to subscribe on
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• 23:36
  All right, love you guys have an amazing Thanksgiving if you're
• 23:38
  in America and I'll see you soon.
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  Bye.