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Sharri | 9 December · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Live on Sky News.
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Speaker 2: This is Sharry Good evening and welcome to this special
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Speaker 2: program live from Melbourne, reporting on the terror attack at
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Speaker 2: the Adas Israel Synagogue, a synagogue that went from this lively,
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Speaker 2: busy place of community and prayer.
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Speaker 3: To this.
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Speaker 2: A place of worship so violently destroyed, decimated and desecrated.
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Speaker 2: I saw this for myself today when I was invited
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Speaker 2: to walk through that shocking scene, and when I spoke
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Speaker 2: with the worshiper who survived that so easily could have
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Speaker 2: been killed. I felt compelled to witness this and report
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Speaker 2: on it, to bring you the full horror of this attack,
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Speaker 2: and to reflect on the visceral impact it's had on
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Speaker 2: all right thinking Australians, regardless of our faith or race. Sadly, shockingly,
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Speaker 2: these pictures show you what antisemitism means. This is the
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Speaker 2: hunting of Jews by arsonists, potentially with murder in their
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Speaker 2: minds and hatred in their hearts, right here in Melbourne, Australia,
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. Now bring you my full report
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Speaker 2: from the synagogue in a moment. But make no mistake,
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Speaker 2: this is the worst attack on a place of worship
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Speaker 2: in Australia in recent history, with police today officially declaring
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Speaker 2: it a terrorist attack, and the Prime Minister was today
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Speaker 2: forced into action, embarrassed into action, and he announced a
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Speaker 2: special task force to investigate incidents of antisemitism. Yet alban
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Speaker 2: Easy still hasn't visited the Adash Synagogue. Neither has his
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Speaker 2: Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke or any senior Cabinet minister
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Speaker 2: apart from outgoing rival Bill Shorten. Now, if this were
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Speaker 2: a mosque, you can bet Albernizi and Burke would have
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Speaker 2: been there mere hours after it happened. Yet, true to farm,
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Speaker 2: we saw Albanesi government ministers speaking about Islamophobia today.
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Speaker 4: He said that they shouldn't be that Islamophobia shouldn't be
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Speaker 4: mentioned in the same sentence as the Prime Minister has done.
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Speaker 4: If James Patterson thinks there's no Islamophobia in Australia, he's wrong.
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Speaker 5: He didn't say that, though.
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Speaker 6: He said that when something happens, it should be enough
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Speaker 6: to just denounce, and he.
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Speaker 4: Went on to say that they're not at the same levels.
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Speaker 6: Look but the parilament a man, are you saying they
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Speaker 6: are at the same levels Because we've just seen a
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Speaker 6: targeted attack on a synagogue.
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Speaker 4: I'm saying, Patricia that both exist, and I'm saying that
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Speaker 4: both can be called out.
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Speaker 2: But there's no Islamophobia crisis. And this is not a mosque,
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Speaker 2: it's a synagogu. It's Jewish people who are being targeted.
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Speaker 2: But this doesn't fit Albanesi's preferred narrative of Palestinians being
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Speaker 2: the victims. That's what he's argued throughout his parliamentary career.
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Speaker 2: It's why he's failed to meet the moment as this
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Speaker 2: anti Semitism crisis erupted. He has not risen to the
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Speaker 2: occasion of being Prime Minister, where he's obligated to protect
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Speaker 2: all Australians, yet he's allowed one minority group, Jews, to
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Speaker 2: be persecuted. The problem is we literally have pro Palestinian
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Speaker 2: activists in charge of fixing anti Semitism in our country.
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Speaker 2: Now remember this was Albanesi from early in his political career,
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Speaker 2: but he was already a federal MP in Canberra.
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Speaker 7: Of Israel has been truly children.
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Speaker 8: With helicopter gunships, with tanks having a dissol.
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Speaker 2: And this activism continued throughout Albanese's time in parliament. In
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Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, just two years before Albanesi became opposition leader.
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Speaker 2: He and Tony Burke had a policy forum on Palestine
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Speaker 2: with special guest fellow pro Palestinian activist Bob Carr. But
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Speaker 2: here's my point. Can you imagine putting the current antisemitism
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Speaker 2: crisis in the hands of one of the protesters.
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Speaker 3: You'd simply never do it.
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Speaker 2: Yet that's what we have here with alban Easy and
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Speaker 2: Tony Burke. It's like having the fox in charge of
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Speaker 2: the hen House. Our safety has been categorically put at
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Speaker 2: risk by this government's lack of action on antisemitism, and
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Speaker 2: how can the Prime Minister claim with us straight face,
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Speaker 2: as he did on the weekend, that he's done all
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Speaker 2: he can on anti Semitism. On the contrary, Albanesi and
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Speaker 2: Pennywog have only emboldened the haters. Their moral confusion has
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Speaker 2: encouraged the Israel haters and has allowed anti Semitism to fester.
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Speaker 2: They've wrongly demonized Israel and thus made Jews a target
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Speaker 2: because in the minds of the haters, Jews are inseparable
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Speaker 2: from Israel, because Israel is the Jewish homeland. Watching the
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Speaker 2: anti Semitism that was erupting, the Albanese government had a
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Speaker 2: responsibility not to fix the Middle East war, but to
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Speaker 2: ensure that all Australians were safe and protected. Instead, they
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Speaker 2: tried to adjudicate the war. Penniwang should have said Israel
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Speaker 2: has a right a duty to defend itself and it
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Speaker 2: needs to bring its hostages home. She should have said
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Speaker 2: that any nation would do the same, and if she
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Speaker 2: had a criticism, she could have made it in private,
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Speaker 2: knowing how public provocative language could inflame tensions here, but
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Speaker 2: she dangerously chose not to do that. The Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: has been very slow to acknowledge there's an antisemitism issue,
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Speaker 2: and he probably wouldn't be acting at all if he
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Speaker 2: hadn't been forced into it with accusations that he's been
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Speaker 2: missing in action, literally blasted across the front page of
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Speaker 2: the newspaper. Well after four days of us all watching
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Speaker 2: on in bewilderment at his apparent lack of interest in
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Speaker 2: the fact a synagogue had burnt down. The Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: finally held a press conference today with the afp Azio.
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Speaker 3: And Attorney General.
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Speaker 2: But if it weren't for the media and the principled
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Speaker 2: stand taken by Peter Dutton, James Patterson, Josh briden Berg,
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Speaker 2: and the Jewish community leaders. Well, it's unlikely Alben Easy
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Speaker 2: would have announced this today.
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Speaker 7: Today I can also announce that we have established AFP
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Speaker 7: Special Operation Averallite for Anti Semitism. This is in response
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Speaker 7: to the attack class Friday morning that is now the
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Speaker 7: third arson attack after the attack on Josh Burns's electorate
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Speaker 7: office and the Sydney Willara car incident.
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Speaker 2: And yet he still hasn't visited the side of what
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Speaker 2: is now officially a declared terrorist incident. Well, like me,
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Speaker 2: Peter Darton was there today. He walked through the synagogue
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Speaker 2: and he found it emotional.
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Speaker 9: To see the half bird books, scriptures and the devastation
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Speaker 9: to a place that otherwise is peaceful and allows people
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Speaker 9: to practice their faith and to to share each other's company.
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Speaker 9: To be disrupted in that way is a horrible thing
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Speaker 9: to see. Quite emotional seeing it is it is actually yes, yeah,
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Speaker 9: I think when you see and it's not just the side,
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Speaker 9: it's the smell as well, the stench.
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Speaker 10: Of the fire.
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Speaker 9: And you can see where people, young children, others have
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Speaker 9: been sitting as entirely predictable, as you've reported to your
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Speaker 9: great credit, on our university campuses and in our streets.
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Speaker 9: People have been crossing red lines for the last thirteen months.
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Speaker 9: They've active with gross indecency and now, of course it's
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Speaker 9: culminated in this terrorist attack and maybe it should be
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Speaker 9: surprised by that and we need to work out how
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Speaker 9: we can quickly resolve these issues so that the next
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Speaker 9: terrorist attack doesn't take place.
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Speaker 2: Well, I asked Peter Dutton if Albin Easy should turn up,
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Speaker 2: but instead Albin Easy played tennis over the weekend action.
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Speaker 3: On anti Semitism.
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Speaker 2: Dutton's should have been taken fourteen months ago. Peter, you've
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Speaker 2: been here, you've shown the leadership to actually come and visit.
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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister has it and we've just found out
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Speaker 2: it's just been reported that he took time out to
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Speaker 2: play tennis instead.
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Speaker 3: Of dealing with this issue over the weekend.
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Speaker 2: What's your response to the fact that he went and
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Speaker 2: played tennis literally while a synagogue was Burnie Well, I think.
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Speaker 9: It's really a story the last thirteen months and when
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Speaker 9: we saw those horrible circumstances and protests on the steps
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Speaker 9: of the Sydney Opera House, that was really the time
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Speaker 9: when the Prime Minister had to step up because that
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Speaker 9: would have sent a clear message that we had no
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Speaker 9: tolerance for the aty Semitic conduct and the blatant racism
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Speaker 9: that was on display that night.
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Speaker 10: But it's just compounded.
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Speaker 9: Since then, and so as I say, nobody should be
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Speaker 9: surprised that it's culminated in a terrorist event. And I
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Speaker 9: think the Prime Minister can tell you about his own
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Speaker 9: position and why the government's taken a position which I
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Speaker 9: think is incomprehensible to my thinking.
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Speaker 1: Australians, you think you should come visit.
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Speaker 9: I think you should come visit, and I think it
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Speaker 9: would be the respectful thing.
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Speaker 11: To do.
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Speaker 8: Well.
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Speaker 2: As Peter Dutton says, the antisemitism crisis should never have
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Speaker 2: come to this. Pennywong and Albenizi need to be strongly
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Speaker 2: reminded of exactly what their jobs are. Their role is
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Speaker 2: to govern for Australia. It's not to interfere in foreign wars.
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Speaker 2: It's not to tell a sovereign nation how to act
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Speaker 2: when it comes under attack with its civilians killed and
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Speaker 2: kidnapped in an unprovoked act of terror. Albanizi leads the
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Speaker 2: Australian government, not the Palestinian government. His most basic requirement
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Speaker 2: in office is to provide a safe environment for all
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Speaker 2: of us in Australia. Yet he's disgracefully failed to do this.
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Speaker 2: Let's hope today is the start of proper leadership, and
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Speaker 2: yet somehow I doubt it. Well, it's another huge show tonight.
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Speaker 2: Shoutout Home Affairs Minister James Patterson will join us to
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Speaker 2: talk about what he says the government needs to do
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Speaker 2: to fix anti Semitism. I'll also get his thoughts on
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Speaker 2: the overthrow of the Sad regime in Syria. Plus Cameron
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Speaker 2: Milner David Gazzard, Israel's anti Semitism envoy. She's going to
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Speaker 2: join me from Israel later in the show. Steve Price,
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Speaker 2: Soy mackenzie as well. But now let's turn to our
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Speaker 2: special report where we show you the utter devastation inside
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Speaker 2: the Adas Israel Synagogue. I went in with you, me
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Speaker 2: a businessman who was studying inside at the time of
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Speaker 2: the firebombing.
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Speaker 3: It was profoundly heartbreaking. Here's that report.
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Speaker 2: Strength, Aliens and the deep faith that unites us all.
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Speaker 3: We're outside the Adas Synagogue.
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Speaker 2: We're about to go inside and witness the extent of
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Speaker 2: the damage after the devastating fire bombing early on Friday morning.
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Speaker 3: You're me Thank you so much. For taking us inside.
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Speaker 2: You're the only one here when this happens here, so
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Speaker 2: you're me the The first thing that hits you is
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Speaker 2: the smell. It's so strong, and the soot, the police tape.
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Speaker 2: This shouldn't be what it's like walking into a synagogue.
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Speaker 1: I shouldn't.
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Speaker 2: This main area of the synagogue where the congregants come.
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Speaker 2: I mean it is damaged, but largely it hasn't been
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Speaker 2: burnt to the ground.
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Speaker 8: Windows have a little bit the miracle, miracle one. It's
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Speaker 8: upsetting that such a thing could happen here in Australia.
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Speaker 3: It's devastating.
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Speaker 2: So yumi, let's go through to where the fire really
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Speaker 2: ripped through the synagogue.
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Speaker 8: Oh, look at this.
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Speaker 2: It's oh, it's just it's heartbreaking.
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Speaker 3: It's truly heartbreaking.
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Speaker 2: You were over here in the quiet early hours of
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Speaker 2: the morning, absolute silence.
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Speaker 3: Tell us what happened.
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Speaker 8: So I was sitting there, so you can see my
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Speaker 8: books there at the first table there on the left
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Speaker 8: hand side. On the right hand side of the table,
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Speaker 8: there's some books still they're not completely burnt. And I
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Speaker 8: was studying. Suddenly I hit this big bank that felt
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Speaker 8: like a sledgehammer on a.
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Speaker 1: Wooden door and it was on this door, I think.
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Speaker 10: So I don't know.
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Speaker 8: But then a second later another bank and I saw
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Speaker 8: glass flying out, so I knew that I was under attack.
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Speaker 8: So I just jump up, ran out, and I forgot
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Speaker 8: my phone. I've been terrified, terrified.
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Speaker 1: Yes I was.
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Speaker 8: But I am part of Hattula and I've got a
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Speaker 8: radio on me, a walkie talkie, and I got on
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Speaker 8: there and I said, I'm under attack.
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Speaker 1: Can I have back up?
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Speaker 2: This is where the fire really ripped through. This is
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Speaker 2: the most destruction in the synagogue.
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Speaker 3: What usually happens in this room.
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Speaker 8: In this room, people study and in about six thirty
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Speaker 8: that's when we start praying. So all this is full
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Speaker 8: of books all around the front, full of books all
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Speaker 8: over there is full of books that's all gone with
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Speaker 8: the fire.
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Speaker 1: You can just see.
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Speaker 3: Here the burnt prayer books. It's it's truly.
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Speaker 2: You wouldn't expect to see this in Australia in twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty four.
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Speaker 1: This is absolutely not.
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Speaker 2: Definitely, you're a proud Jew. You're living in Australia, a
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Speaker 2: peaceful country. To think that you're in your house of worship,
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Speaker 2: just such a.
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Speaker 8: Thing would happen. I don't believe I wouldn't believe that
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Speaker 8: such a thing would happen here in Australia, so far
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Speaker 8: away from the world. Why should anyone target us. I
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Speaker 8: walk on the street normally, I've got nothing against anyone,
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Speaker 8: and I thought no one has ended against us.
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Speaker 2: It was just in Israel recently for the anniversary of
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Speaker 2: October seven, and I went down to Kidbutz Bari and
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Speaker 2: I saw how hermas burnt that Kidbutz to pieces and
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Speaker 2: kidnapped thinnocent families.
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Speaker 3: And then you walk in here.
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Speaker 2: I never expected to see that here in Australia, that
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Speaker 2: similar fire, the same technique. Michael, you're the president of
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Speaker 2: this synagogue. What's it like to see it like that?
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Speaker 10: It's very emotional and upsetting. It's very difficult for us
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Speaker 10: to see this, especially my parents. My grandparents will come
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Speaker 10: after the war with shirts on the back. We're knocking
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Speaker 10: at all. Now we have to contain their legacy.
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Speaker 5: Did you ever, man?
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Speaker 8: Never?
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Speaker 10: Never, I thought possibly could be a bit of hate,
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Speaker 10: a bit of shouting, bit of scheming. I never imagined
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Speaker 10: it's going to come to this. I was up eated.
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Speaker 10: I've got to call it ten plus five five in
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Speaker 10: the morning. I was totally shocked at God's here within
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Speaker 10: five minutes, and I just couldn't function all day and
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Speaker 10: I still can't function. And it's going to be a
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Speaker 10: huge project, huge rebuilding project, all the everything you see
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Speaker 10: what happens in the Middle East. We thought we were
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Speaker 10: in island. We're far away from the world. We will
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Speaker 10: be immune from all the issues and the problems. What
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Speaker 10: happened in the world. We do not expect this is
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Speaker 10: what happened here at all.
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Speaker 2: How do you explain this sort of terror attack to
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Speaker 2: your children and grandchildren.
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Speaker 10: It's very difficult the children, and not only the children,
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Speaker 10: a lot of members, a lot of adults are traumatized,
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Speaker 10: which they can come to terms with it. And when
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Speaker 10: we rebuilt, which will come into tens of millions of
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Speaker 10: dollars through the buildings.
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Speaker 1: Again, we're going to have.
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Speaker 10: To put high security and high everything not that will
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Speaker 10: not come. They traumatized, they're scared. What happened to you,
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Speaker 10: Meik Truman happened to them again.
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Speaker 2: So William, can you tell us this incredible story of
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Speaker 2: this Torres scroll surviving now to synagogue attacks.
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Speaker 12: The synagogue was fire bombed in Brutdslaver. As you can see,
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Speaker 12: there's a new coat that was put on there because
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Speaker 12: the old coat was damaged and says survived the Holocaust
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Speaker 12: in Brutdoslav And when my parents came to Australia in
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Speaker 12: nineteen forty eight, they built up the synagogue. They donated
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Speaker 12: to the synagogue and for the second time it has
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Speaker 12: to be rescued from the fire bombing by the same
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Speaker 12: hatred that was there during the Nazi period and seemed
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Speaker 12: to just continued over here now in Australia.
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Speaker 2: How do you feel about that sort of any Semitism
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Speaker 2: of the Holocaust that your parents survived.
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Speaker 12: Until it's unbelievable and they would be turning their graves
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Speaker 12: to think this happening in the country they came to,
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Speaker 12: a country they thought the best country. The happiest day
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Speaker 12: of my father's life is the day got his naturalization
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Speaker 12: the Australian citizen. Was the happiest day of his life.
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Speaker 12: He couldn't believe it. He was so proud to be
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Speaker 12: in Australian And to see this happening over here just
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Speaker 12: breaks your heart.
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Speaker 2: You have parents aren't alive today. What do you think
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Speaker 2: they'd be thinking about.
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Speaker 12: Turning their graves think? And that just couldn't happen the
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Speaker 12: country they loved with all their heart came to Australia
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Speaker 12: ninety forty, I didn't want to change a thing. They
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Speaker 12: thought this was the Golden Medinna meaning the golden country,
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Speaker 12: that this is the country to live in, free and happy.
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Speaker 12: But unfortunately it turned out to be how it is.
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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister on Friday said anti Semitism has always
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Speaker 2: been around, Sure it has, but not in Australia.
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Speaker 5: It hasn't.
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Speaker 12: I've never felt that Australia not like this.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Eleana, your great grandparents actually founded this synagogue.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they did.
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Speaker 11: It's really upsetting to see that in our country, Australia,
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Speaker 11: where it's known for its diversity and multiculturalism, that there
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Speaker 11: is such hatred amongst us and on the streets, and
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Speaker 11: it's resulted in the burning of a synagogue where this
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Speaker 11: is a place of worship and where my family is
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Speaker 11: deeply connected to. And my grandparents helped establish this synagogue
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Speaker 11: where they escaped this ant Semitism in Europe where there
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Speaker 11: was many burnings of synagogues there and they came here
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Speaker 11: for safety, and they came here to set up a
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Speaker 11: new life where they could be proud used but I
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Speaker 11: think they would be truly in disbelief of what is
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Speaker 11: happening currently here in our country.
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Speaker 3: It's just heart wrenching, isn't it.
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Speaker 2: And if you want to donate to help the rebuild,
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Speaker 2: no matter how small, the website to go to is
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Speaker 2: www dot.
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Speaker 3: Rebuild a DAS.
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Speaker 2: That's ADAS dot com, Rebuild a Das dot com. All right,
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Speaker 2: we're going to come back to that topic later in
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Speaker 2: the show, but now let's bring in tonight's panel, Sky
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Speaker 2: News host Steve Price and Liberal MP Zoey McKenzie.
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Speaker 3: Great to see you both here in Melbourne for once.
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Speaker 2: We welcome now the Prime Minister was caught out today
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Speaker 2: playing tennis in Codderslow while the community and all Australians
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Speaker 2: were horrified at this terror attack. Steve Price, can you
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Speaker 2: believe he was playing tennis instead of addressing the nation
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Speaker 2: on this important issue.
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Speaker 13: I was staggered that he stayed in Perth for the
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Speaker 13: whole weekend. Forget the tennis. Even if it wasn't playing tennis.
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Speaker 13: I couldn't understand why this happened Friday morning very early.
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Speaker 13: As we know, he should have come straight back to
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Speaker 13: Victoria and should have gone there on the Friday, but
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Speaker 13: then he doesn't go there on the Saturday. Then you
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Speaker 13: get two days he doesn't even give a media conference,
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Speaker 13: doesn't talk about it. And then when he was asked
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Speaker 13: about playing tennis today, he said, oh, I didn't play
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Speaker 13: tennis on Sunday morning, And then someone said, what we
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Speaker 13: got it wrong, have we? But he then admitted that
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Speaker 13: he was playing tennis in the afternoon for two hours.
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Speaker 13: I mean, it's such a bad, bad look these people,
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Speaker 13: and the premier is no better, Jacinda Allen. They just
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Speaker 13: completely lost the plot. They don't get it.
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Speaker 3: Do you think it's his Hawaii moment? Oh, Zoey McKenzie, olg.
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Speaker 14: He's had a few of these moments, I think where
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Speaker 14: he's just shown a real tone deafness, whether it's cost
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Speaker 14: of living, pressures on families, pressures on small business, red tape,
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Speaker 14: industry relations, and now these may I say this is
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Speaker 14: one off now three really significant fire bombing instances, but
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Speaker 14: hundreds of other instances, people being attacked on the streets,
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Speaker 14: hit on the streets, abused on the street, eggs being
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Speaker 14: thrown at them, being spat on in the city. There
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Speaker 14: was plenty of evidence of a proper narrative proper leadership
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Speaker 14: being required in October of last year. The fact that
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Speaker 14: we're still here in December and there are days of songs.
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Speaker 14: He didn't send out Richard Miles WDPM, he's just down
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Speaker 14: the road. Didn't send out the Attorney General. He's even
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Speaker 14: closer to the synagogue.
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Speaker 13: You know where the premier was now in a pub
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Speaker 13: on Sunday. She didn't go to that vigil. She was
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Speaker 13: in Northcott in a hotel making an announcement about licensing laws.
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Speaker 3: The leadership is absolutely disgraceful.
22:34
Speaker 2: And you know, Melbourne, I think, does you know we're
22:37
Speaker 2: seeing anti semitism everywhere? It feels like it's been particularly
22:41
Speaker 2: acute in this community. I think at least new southeans
22:44
Speaker 2: Premier Chris Men's his instincts are in the right place. Yes,
22:48
Speaker 2: we haven't had enough law enforcement action, but his heart's
22:51
Speaker 2: in the right place. He came out on the weekend
22:53
Speaker 2: and he said, well, we need a banned protest outside
22:56
Speaker 2: of synagogue. This is what I've been saying for such
22:58
Speaker 2: a long time. You can't just protest.
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Speaker 1: Well to sendor.
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Speaker 13: Allen said tonight that she won't even introduce a permit
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Speaker 13: system to stop people marching your a call. As you
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Speaker 13: reported at the time that that march past to senegoge
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Speaker 13: and Sydney, it was denied a permit and they changed
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Speaker 13: the route. She was asked again tonight, will you put
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Speaker 13: in a permit system to stop pro Palestinian marches carrying
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Speaker 13: a Palestinian flag shouting out from the river to the sea.
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Speaker 2: No, it's the most basic thing that should be done. Look,
23:25
Speaker 2: I want to turn to another couple of stories that
23:27
Speaker 2: are around today.
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Speaker 3: We will come back to this.
23:29
Speaker 2: I've got James Patterson on the show a bit later,
23:32
Speaker 2: plus Israel's Auntie seventies of mine, So I'm going to
23:35
Speaker 2: have full coverage tonight. But we are seeing reports in
23:38
Speaker 2: the Herald Sun today about just how much the controversial
23:41
Speaker 2: First Nations People ambassador is costing. Now, we are already
23:45
Speaker 2: know that the salary is nearly eight hundred thousand dollars,
23:50
Speaker 2: but Steve, now we've got this report that Defact is
23:52
Speaker 2: also awarding a consultancy firm more than a quarter of
23:55
Speaker 2: a million dollars to help develop a policy strategy.
23:59
Speaker 13: And this follows that ambassador's travel, which was I think
24:02
Speaker 13: one hundred and forty five thousand dollars worth of business
24:05
Speaker 13: class airfares around the world, talking about a separate indigenous
24:10
Speaker 13: foreign policy that apparently we're going to introduce. I mean,
24:13
Speaker 13: since when do we have an indigenous foreign policy Peter Dutton,
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Speaker 13: I think Zoe said he's going to scrap it, isn't he?
24:19
Speaker 14: Not that I've seen today, necessarily, but that would be
24:21
Speaker 14: a logical investigation to make that. Together with the other
24:25
Speaker 14: three hundred and sixteen billion dollars of additional funding that
24:27
Speaker 14: have contributed thirty six thousand additional public servants in Canberra,
24:31
Speaker 14: it's quite a long list of expenditure that we need
24:33
Speaker 14: to start with if ever we get back into government
24:36
Speaker 14: camera Zoe.
24:37
Speaker 2: Maybe Peter Dutton needs to announce an elon musk vivak
24:41
Speaker 2: Ramaswami style.
24:42
Speaker 3: Zoch Well, I think that's already on bene Visions.
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Speaker 14: To be fair, everything that he came out and said
24:46
Speaker 14: on the weekend that this government needed to do, they've
24:49
Speaker 14: actually gone and done just four days too late. So
24:52
Speaker 14: again it's Peter's leadership on the weekend saying we need
24:55
Speaker 14: to have an antisemitism task force. We need to look
24:57
Speaker 14: at whether we should take away visas for people who
25:00
Speaker 14: have committed anti Semitic acts. I was recently in India
25:03
Speaker 14: with a bunch of German politicians. They actually take away
25:05
Speaker 14: citizenship if it's been found that somebody committed a grave
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Speaker 14: anti Semitic act. So again Peter is leading the debate
25:11
Speaker 14: and the Prime Minister has come slowly up behind.
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Speaker 1: Who's there, Elon Musk?
25:16
Speaker 13: Who we're going to like?
25:17
Speaker 5: Go boss?
25:18
Speaker 3: We'd have to work out who should be pointed to it.
25:21
Speaker 3: But it's a good idea.
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Speaker 1: It's a fantastic idea.
25:24
Speaker 3: The public services bloated at.
25:26
Speaker 13: Six thousand extra since albody's he was elected.
25:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's costed and we're the bunchouts already intense.
25:34
Speaker 3: It makes sense, absolutely ridiculous.
25:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should maybe get Peter Dutton on the show
25:38
Speaker 2: and speak to him about that idea. It is possible
25:42
Speaker 2: that he's going to be the Prime minister because we've
25:44
Speaker 2: seen today two disastrous polls for alban Easy News poll
25:48
Speaker 2: in the Australian and Resolve in the Herald, which had
25:51
Speaker 2: Labour's primary at just twenty seven percent. I mean, you'd
25:55
Speaker 2: think they can't really win with a twenty seven percent primary.
25:59
Speaker 3: Steve, do you think it's now.
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Speaker 2: Looking like Peter Dutton could went outright. I mean we
26:04
Speaker 2: always talk about how the most likely scenario is Albanisi
26:07
Speaker 2: and minority government.
26:08
Speaker 3: But do you reckon now? People are just turning off.
26:12
Speaker 2: You know that the Prime Minister has lost the confidence
26:15
Speaker 2: of Australia.
26:15
Speaker 13: Absolutely, I mean he is a leader is shot. I
26:19
Speaker 13: mean that poll today showed that the preferred prime minister
26:23
Speaker 13: attitudes towards Anthony Albanezia the worst in Newspoll history. So
26:27
Speaker 13: he's gone. I mean, Labor has to stick with him.
26:29
Speaker 13: They can't change leaders between now and the election. Ken
26:32
Speaker 13: Peter Dutton beat him, I think. So it's a lot
26:34
Speaker 13: of seats that Zoe and the Coalition have got to win.
26:37
Speaker 13: But Peter Dutton is giving the right messages. I mean
26:42
Speaker 13: he's telling things, telling the people things they want to hear.
26:44
Speaker 13: And it'll be interesting to see the nuclear policy when
26:47
Speaker 13: it's released this week and what sort of blowback that
26:49
Speaker 13: gets from the public. But remember this poll, which is
26:52
Speaker 13: the worst ever in Newspol history for Elbow, was before
26:57
Speaker 13: what happened on Friday at the synagogue and before we
27:00
Speaker 13: found out he was playing tennis.
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Speaker 1: As what it's like.
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Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, good point, Zoe.
27:05
Speaker 2: What do you think I mean if it was a
27:07
Speaker 2: contest just between the Coalition and Labor, you'd think probably
27:11
Speaker 2: Peter Darton would win. But then there's the question of
27:13
Speaker 2: the Teals. How many seats are you at a crosspatch?
27:17
Speaker 2: But on the Teals question, how many seats realistically do
27:21
Speaker 2: you think the Coalition can win back?
27:23
Speaker 14: Well, I think it's all a question of people understanding
27:25
Speaker 14: that when they vote Teal they probably get something else eventually.
27:28
Speaker 3: So the question for.
27:29
Speaker 14: Each Teal in the field is who will you back
27:32
Speaker 14: in the questions of government majority and supply in particular,
27:37
Speaker 14: So every single one this time we now know precisely
27:40
Speaker 14: what they're choosing between, whether it is it Dutton government,
27:42
Speaker 14: a coalition government with the record we had for the
27:43
Speaker 14: previous twelve years, or this government and its continuation. Steve
27:48
Speaker 14: and I turns out live quite close to each other.
27:50
Speaker 14: You wouldn't meet a man or a woman on the
27:51
Speaker 14: street who says, Elbow's done a good job. I have
27:53
Speaker 14: got endless shops in what is a tourism zone. As
27:57
Speaker 14: we head into the peak of summer, all businesses are
28:00
Speaker 14: closing left, right and center. They're all backed by their mortgage,
28:03
Speaker 14: which is costing them on average twenty six thousand dollars
28:05
Speaker 14: extra just in interest.
28:07
Speaker 3: Payments every year.
28:09
Speaker 14: No one is saying thanks albow, Steve.
28:12
Speaker 3: What do you think I mean? I saw Tim Wilson
28:14
Speaker 3: out today.
28:15
Speaker 2: He's trying to unset Zoe Daniels in Goldstein.
28:20
Speaker 3: What do you think I mean?
28:21
Speaker 2: I think it seems like a Legras spender will be
28:24
Speaker 2: tough to beat. In Wantworth. Roeknox is giving it a
28:27
Speaker 2: good shot. She's working very hard. What's your sense of
28:30
Speaker 2: the Teals in Melbourne?
28:31
Speaker 13: Well, in Melbourne. In Victoria, I think, and Zoe correct
28:34
Speaker 13: me if I'm wrong, I think they can probably get
28:35
Speaker 13: Coujong back, Manikue Ryan has not been a good member
28:39
Speaker 13: at all.
28:39
Speaker 1: And the Liberals and Joseph Fantasy, Emilia.
28:41
Speaker 13: Haymer great candidate. I think Zoe Daniels is in trouble
28:45
Speaker 13: in Goldstein. I think Tim Wilson, even though he lost
28:48
Speaker 13: to her at the last election, probably he could. They
28:50
Speaker 13: could pick that up. I think that's a real possibility.
28:54
Speaker 13: In Sydney, I think one of those Northern Beaches seats
28:58
Speaker 13: they can probably get back. So it's a work in progress,
29:01
Speaker 13: but I think in general, the people who voted to
29:04
Speaker 13: you last time, unless they're completely committed to the Teal
29:08
Speaker 13: cause would be disappointed in what those people delivered.
29:11
Speaker 1: They haven't done anything for anybody.
29:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And I think a lot of the Teal
29:16
Speaker 2: vote last time was a protest vote against Scott Morrison.
29:18
Speaker 1: Yes, it was an individual which we.
29:21
Speaker 3: Won't see this time around.
29:22
Speaker 2: All right, Zoy McKenzie, Steve Price, so great to be
29:24
Speaker 2: here with you in Melvin tonight.
29:26
Speaker 1: Thank you.
29:26
Speaker 3: Chery Now still to come? Is it all over?
29:29
Speaker 2: Red Rover for alban easy, with Australians fed up with
29:32
Speaker 2: his leadership and the vast majority rejecting the notion he
29:36
Speaker 2: has their back. Plus shutter Home Affairs Minister James Patterson
29:40
Speaker 2: will join me next with what Anthony Albertezi needs to
29:43
Speaker 2: do specifically to fix this antisemitism crisis. That's after this
29:48
Speaker 2: quick break, welcome back.
29:54
Speaker 10: Well.
29:54
Speaker 2: Since October seven, Senator James Patterson has been outstanding and
29:59
Speaker 2: steadfast in calling out Labour's lack of moral clarity on
30:03
Speaker 2: anti Semitism. The problem should have been nipped in the
30:07
Speaker 2: bud immediately after the Upper House protest some fourteen months ago.
30:12
Speaker 2: Were to discuss this and what should be done. I
30:14
Speaker 2: caught up with James Patterson earlier today, James Patterson, thank
30:19
Speaker 2: you so much for your time. We're standing here outside
30:22
Speaker 2: the adust Synagogue. Many of us are asking how did
30:25
Speaker 2: antisemitism in Australia get to this point.
30:29
Speaker 15: I think the anti shari is that the Prime Minister
30:31
Speaker 15: ignored the warnings. He ignored the Jewish community, he ignored
30:34
Speaker 15: the opposition, he ignored so many people who've been crying
30:37
Speaker 15: out for fourteen months that anti Semitism is out of
30:39
Speaker 15: control in our country and that if something serious wasn't done,
30:42
Speaker 15: then something tragic would happen. And this is the tragic
30:45
Speaker 15: thing that has happened. It is a miracle that no
30:48
Speaker 15: one died, but someone easily could have. And unfortunately, there's
30:51
Speaker 15: still possibility this will get worse. As far as we know,
30:54
Speaker 15: the people behind this are still at large, and there
30:56
Speaker 15: could be others in the community who are seeking to
30:58
Speaker 15: copy it. And that's why we need to strong response
31:00
Speaker 15: from the beginning, a strong moral response calling out anti semitism,
31:04
Speaker 15: and a strong operational response enforcing the law, making sure
31:07
Speaker 15: there are consequences for extremists in their behavior.
31:10
Speaker 1: Otherwise they would become emboldened, and they have.
31:12
Speaker 2: Been, and that's why so many Australians, particularly in the
31:15
Speaker 2: Jewish community, are feeling so anxious at the moment. James,
31:19
Speaker 2: you and Peter Darton have been so strong on the
31:21
Speaker 2: need to tackle anti Semitism. Today you've come out and
31:25
Speaker 2: said precisely what measures you think need to be taken.
31:28
Speaker 3: Can you talk us through them?
31:30
Speaker 15: Well, we've heard the Jewish community when they say the
31:32
Speaker 15: number one thing they want from governments is for the
31:34
Speaker 15: law to be enforced. And so we've announced that we
31:37
Speaker 15: will establish a new AFP led task force to tackle
31:40
Speaker 15: antisemitism that will include Border Force and AZIO and our
31:43
Speaker 15: other key intelligence and security agencies at the federal level,
31:47
Speaker 15: and that we will direct them through a Ministry of
31:49
Speaker 15: Direction to prioritize antisemitism and.
31:51
Speaker 1: Particularly unresolved complaints.
31:54
Speaker 15: We also want them to look back on complaints that
31:56
Speaker 15: they've decided not to proceed with charges for, because we
31:59
Speaker 15: want to make sure they are consequences for.
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Speaker 1: The people who've done what they've done.
32:02
Speaker 15: We'll also ensure that the Executive Council of Australian Injuries
32:05
Speaker 15: request for thirty two point five million dollars of security
32:08
Speaker 15: funding will be delivered, but critically without springs attached because
32:12
Speaker 15: the other and easy government has said they're not allowed
32:14
Speaker 15: to spend that money on armed guards at.
32:16
Speaker 1: Schools and shools, and that only on unarmed guards and
32:19
Speaker 1: that's rageous.
32:20
Speaker 15: Well, that will lead to people downgrading security rather than
32:23
Speaker 15: upgrading security at a time or crisis. And finally, we
32:25
Speaker 15: will reform Section five oh one of the Migration Act,
32:28
Speaker 15: the Character Provisions to make sure that we can cancel
32:31
Speaker 15: divisas and deport anyone who's involved in anti Semitism or
32:34
Speaker 15: glorifying terrorism.
32:36
Speaker 2: We've seen overnight scenes of Australians, including children on the streets,
32:41
Speaker 2: calling death to Jews somehow in response to the regime
32:45
Speaker 2: change in Syria. There's been so much of this hatred
32:49
Speaker 2: over the past year, and you barely hear a word,
32:52
Speaker 2: let alone any action from law enforcement. What reactions should
32:56
Speaker 2: there be do you think?
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Speaker 15: Well, I hope, Charri, this is not yet a nut
33:00
Speaker 15: instance of incitement to violence against the Jewish community that
33:03
Speaker 15: goes unprosecuted, because we've had so many examples since the
33:06
Speaker 15: seventh of October of criminal incitement to violence at the
33:10
Speaker 15: federal and state level, and yet no charges have been laid,
33:12
Speaker 15: let alone anyone prosecuted or sent to prison over this,
33:15
Speaker 15: so we need a different response this time. We need
33:17
Speaker 15: our state and federal governments to lean in and to
33:19
Speaker 15: charge people with these offenses, because if you don't charge them,
33:22
Speaker 15: if there aren't consequences, they become in boldened and no
33:25
Speaker 15: wonder we've seen the scenes like this, No Wonder said
33:27
Speaker 15: when people aren't being charged with terrorist organization symbols, when
33:31
Speaker 15: they're showing the flags of listed terrorist organizations.
33:33
Speaker 1: So no wonder they don't fear the consequences.
33:35
Speaker 2: Chris Bowen this morning has said that your remarks just
33:39
Speaker 2: calling for antisemitism to be dealt with.
33:41
Speaker 3: He's called them disgusting.
33:44
Speaker 2: What's your response to what Chris Bowen has had to
33:47
Speaker 2: say about you today?
33:48
Speaker 15: Well, Chris Bolin should be ashamed of the lack of
33:50
Speaker 15: response from his government since the seventh October to the
33:53
Speaker 15: anti Semitism crisis. He needs to understand, like Tony Burke
33:56
Speaker 15: and the other ministers need to understand that they're ministers
33:58
Speaker 15: in the Australian government for all Australians. They're not ministers
34:01
Speaker 15: for Western Sydney or just some of their constituents.
34:03
Speaker 1: They've got an.
34:04
Speaker 15: Obligation to protect all Australians and it is a disgrace
34:07
Speaker 15: that to this day, four days on, we've still not
34:09
Speaker 15: heard from Tony Burke. He hasn't done a press conference,
34:11
Speaker 15: he hasn't done.
34:12
Speaker 1: A meter interview. I mean, do we seriously think.
34:14
Speaker 15: That if it was a mosque instead of a synagogue
34:16
Speaker 15: that had been firebombed, that anybody would stand between Tony
34:19
Speaker 15: Burke and a television camera. He would have been out
34:21
Speaker 15: there on day one. But we're now on day four
34:23
Speaker 15: and he's still missing an action.
34:24
Speaker 2: And Chris Bowen again couldn't speak about anti semitism today
34:27
Speaker 2: without also talking about Islamophobia, where one form of racism
34:33
Speaker 2: is at crisis point in this country.
34:35
Speaker 15: Correct, The evidence is very clear Anti Semitism is the
34:39
Speaker 15: most prolific form of hatred in our country. It is
34:42
Speaker 15: off the chart since the seventh October. Of course, we
34:44
Speaker 15: should call out other forms of racism when they occur,
34:47
Speaker 15: but you don't need to call out Islamophobia when there's
34:50
Speaker 15: been an instance of antisemitism. The Jewish community is the
34:53
Speaker 15: only community whose experience of racism can't be called out
34:56
Speaker 15: in isolation, at least by our Prime minister.
34:58
Speaker 1: He always has to.
34:59
Speaker 15: Balance it again other communities, and I think that is
35:01
Speaker 15: an abrogation of leadership and it's a moral failure.
35:04
Speaker 3: Yeah.
35:04
Speaker 2: I feel like having Tony Burker's Home Affairs Minister is
35:07
Speaker 2: a bit like having the Fox in charge of the Henhouse.
35:11
Speaker 15: It was a bizarre decision for the Prime Minister to
35:13
Speaker 15: appoint Tony Burke to this portfolio. The only reason why
35:16
Speaker 15: he would have done so is if he's putting Labour's
35:18
Speaker 15: political interests ahead of the national interest. They want to
35:21
Speaker 15: hold those seats in Western Sydney. They're worried that the
35:23
Speaker 15: Muslim Votes Matter movement will rise up and take those
35:26
Speaker 15: seats off them at the election, and so they put
35:28
Speaker 15: him in this position of power so he can approve
35:30
Speaker 15: Palestinian visas and do other things to appease extremists in
35:33
Speaker 15: our community, instead of putting someone in that position who
35:36
Speaker 15: could act in the national interest and protect all Australians.
35:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is so important right now. Just finally, i'd
35:42
Speaker 2: like to ask your comment on the toppling of the Asade.
35:46
Speaker 3: Regime in Syria.
35:48
Speaker 2: Clearly this is a good thing that this murderous regime
35:51
Speaker 2: is now over. Asad has reportedly fled to Russia. But
35:55
Speaker 2: we just don't know what comes next with these rebel
35:58
Speaker 2: forces and what the nature of that new government will.
36:01
Speaker 1: Be luck You're right, Chari. No one should.
36:03
Speaker 15: Mourn the collapse of the Asad regime, this siagime that
36:06
Speaker 15: used chemical weapons on its own people. And it is
36:09
Speaker 15: never a bad day when a proxy of the Iranian state,
36:12
Speaker 15: when a proxy of the Russian state falls over, but
36:15
Speaker 15: we should be sober about what might replace it. We
36:17
Speaker 15: know among the disparate group of rebels that have taken power,
36:20
Speaker 15: there are groups that have their origins in both ISIS
36:23
Speaker 15: and Al Qaeda. HTS, one of the key groups, is
36:26
Speaker 15: listed as a terrorist organization in Australia and around the world,
36:29
Speaker 15: but they have made commitments about how they intend to
36:32
Speaker 15: govern Syria going forward, and it's important that we hold
36:34
Speaker 15: them to those commitments.
36:36
Speaker 1: Because we have seen in other revolutions like.
36:38
Speaker 15: This in the Middle East, particularly in Libya, that sometimes
36:41
Speaker 15: what replaces what had been before can be even worse,
36:43
Speaker 15: and it's critical but Syria does not become worse than
36:46
Speaker 15: it has already been during this terrible silver civil law.
36:49
Speaker 2: James Patterson, thank you so much once again for your
36:52
Speaker 2: strength in fighting anti Semitis.
36:54
Speaker 3: And really appreciate your time.
36:55
Speaker 13: Thank you Chan.
36:57
Speaker 2: Well still to come. Reports that are hostage dear could
37:00
Speaker 2: be imminent. This is breaking news tonight and I'm going
37:02
Speaker 2: to cross live to Israel for the latest. But first
37:05
Speaker 2: Cameron Milner and David Gazard will run through those dire
37:09
Speaker 2: poll figures where Albinizi was rated the weakest prime minister
37:13
Speaker 2: in decades. I'll tell you what you don't need polling
37:16
Speaker 2: to know that that's coming up after this quick break,
37:23
Speaker 2: welcome back. Well, lots more to come tonight, so let's
37:25
Speaker 2: get straight into it with our political panel former chief
37:28
Speaker 2: of staff to Bill Shorten, Cameron Milner and former advisor
37:32
Speaker 2: to John Howard at David Gazard. Welcome to you both. Well,
37:35
Speaker 2: let's return to those News poll results today. They were
37:38
Speaker 2: shocking for the prime minister. I mean the headline. The
37:41
Speaker 2: most voters now consider Albinizi the weakest prime minister in decades.
37:47
Speaker 2: His stronger decisive leader rating has plummeted five points to
37:51
Speaker 2: forty four percent.
37:52
Speaker 3: Now, this is the lowest score.
37:54
Speaker 2: For prime minister in this category since News Poll began
37:57
Speaker 2: measuring it in two thousand and eight. After Ke and
38:00
Speaker 2: Rud's when Cameron, You've written yet another sensational piece on
38:04
Speaker 2: the Nightly well, tell us just how weak is alban
38:08
Speaker 2: Easy in your view?
38:11
Speaker 16: Well, as we broke first on your program when we
38:14
Speaker 16: did the GXO JLP pole back in May, voters when
38:17
Speaker 16: they are asked, thought he was weak, useless and a liar.
38:20
Speaker 16: So this has been a view around for a while.
38:22
Speaker 16: But the thing critical about this to his poll Shari
38:24
Speaker 16: is this was taken before the utterly disastrous, utterly disastrous
38:28
Speaker 16: response to the act of terrorism that was the Ada
38:32
Speaker 16: Synagogue fire bombing in Melbourne. This is a bloke who
38:35
Speaker 16: was being briefed on the plane about a terrorist act
38:37
Speaker 16: and went to a fundraiser with Big Oil to raise
38:40
Speaker 16: more money for his campaign. This is a bloke who
38:42
Speaker 16: on Saturday saw other leaders going to the synagogue but
38:45
Speaker 16: had time to go off and play a game at tennis.
38:48
Speaker 16: This is a guy who made big time smears of
38:52
Speaker 16: Scott Morrison saying he doesn't hold a hose about the
38:54
Speaker 16: bushfires in Australia, but we know when it comes to
38:56
Speaker 16: fire bombing a synagogue, he holds a tennis racket. He
38:59
Speaker 16: holds a tennis rakat Shari.
39:01
Speaker 1: This guy is a disgrace.
39:02
Speaker 16: This should this guy should not be our prime minister
39:04
Speaker 16: any longer if this is how he responds to a
39:06
Speaker 16: national crisis.
39:10
Speaker 2: So true, David Gazard, what do you think about the
39:14
Speaker 2: response we've seen from Alberan easy.
39:16
Speaker 3: Over a terrorist attack. We on you it was a
39:19
Speaker 3: terrorist attack.
39:19
Speaker 2: It's taken authorities for days to label it as such.
39:24
Speaker 2: How do you think the Prime Minister's responded.
39:27
Speaker 17: Well, it's reprehensible and I think it lies the accusations
39:33
Speaker 17: that have been level against the Prime Minister for now
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Speaker 17: months that he's thinking more about the seats he holds
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Speaker 17: in Western Sydney than he is about the national interest.
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Speaker 5: So we've got a.
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Speaker 17: Community living in fear while the Prime Minister basically washes
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Speaker 17: his hands or or comes to the party days late
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Speaker 17: on declaring this terrorism. And to Cameron's point, I mean,
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Speaker 17: this is sort of standard behavior from the Prime minister,
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Speaker 17: you know. And it's no wonder that people are marking
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Speaker 17: him down. He's in a cost of living crisis. He's
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Speaker 17: a property wheeler and dealer with a four point three
40:14
Speaker 17: million dollar house on a cliff top. He's getting flight
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Speaker 17: upgrades and now he says he's for Jewish community, but
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Speaker 17: he's playing tennis when he clearly should be down at
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Speaker 17: that synagogue and sympathizing and announcing clear action that he's
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Speaker 17: going to assist that community. We don't get any of
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Speaker 17: that from the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 2: No, we've had nothing. And you know the task force
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Speaker 2: that he did announce today, well he was forced into
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Speaker 2: it because the opposition, the community, the media on the
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Speaker 2: front page of every paper, was criticizing him for lack
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Speaker 2: of action. But it's not just on social cohesion. And
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Speaker 2: again this is no problem just for Jewish Australians. All
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Speaker 2: kind hearted Australians of all fates despise the racism and
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Speaker 2: the lawlessness and the aggression that we're seeing on our streets.
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Speaker 2: But on the cost of living crisis. In the Resolve
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Speaker 2: poll today, Cameron, fifty nine percent of voters say they're
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Speaker 2: worse off than when Albanizi came to power, despite his
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Speaker 2: campaign platform being on cost of living, only thirteen percent
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Speaker 2: said they felt better off.
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Speaker 3: I don't know who those thirteen percent could.
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Speaker 2: Possibly have been, but Cameron, you know this is a
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Speaker 2: major issue as well.
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Speaker 3: The economy.
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Speaker 16: The economies front and center are made worse by these
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Speaker 16: acts of national terrorism that we're seeing specifically targeted the
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Speaker 16: Jewish community in Australia, but no cost of living is
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Speaker 16: a huge issue for Labor and little wonder that people
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Speaker 16: are feeling much worse off than three years ago because
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Speaker 16: they've spit their COVID savings. They're actually on their you know,
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Speaker 16: the bearings their pants, trying to pay mortgage rates at
41:52
Speaker 16: record levels, grocery bills, petrol. Everything's gone up under Albanie.
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Speaker 16: Everything's gone up under elbow and that's the problem for
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Speaker 16: our He just looks so blase in to your point, David,
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Speaker 16: so out of touch, so to touch, you know, the
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Speaker 16: retirement house on the top of the hill that only
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Speaker 16: has room for a jacuzzi, not a tennis court. This
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Speaker 16: guy is so out of touch with what Australians are
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Speaker 16: currently living through with their cost of living crisis.
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Speaker 3: David.
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Speaker 2: In that Resolve poll that I just mentioned, they had
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Speaker 2: Labour's primary sitting at twenty seven percent. From your extensive
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Speaker 2: experience with political campaigns, do you think it's now at
42:29
Speaker 2: a point where Labor will struggle to even form minority government.
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Speaker 17: Look to form government as they did at the last
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Speaker 17: election with the primary vote of thirty two point six
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Speaker 17: percent was extraordinary. That is a historic low number one
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Speaker 17: in three people giving their first preference to the Labor Party,
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Speaker 17: and they still managed to cobble together a government with
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Speaker 17: the support of Greens and Teals. Over the course of
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Speaker 17: the last two and a half years, Anthony Albernezi has
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Speaker 17: shed five percentage points off that historic low number. He's
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Speaker 17: now sitting at twenty seven if the Resolve poll is
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Speaker 17: to believe. At the same time, that's on top of
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Speaker 17: the thirty two percent he shared what somewhere between fifteen
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Speaker 17: and twenty percent of the first primary vote base that
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Speaker 17: he had. He's down down into one in every four
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Speaker 17: voters giving their primary vote. But at the same time,
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Speaker 17: his spending is at never before seen highs, which is
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Speaker 17: pumped up inflation. He hasn't been able to cobble together
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Speaker 17: any kind of serious cost of living package, which is
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Speaker 17: what people have been looking for. He's been obsessed with
43:43
Speaker 17: the voice, he's obsessed now with Palestine. He seems distracted,
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Speaker 17: as camera notes, with his own personal living situations. I
43:55
Speaker 17: mean these numbers to your point, I can't see him
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Speaker 17: getting majority government, whether or not there's going to be
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Speaker 17: enough Green and support to cobble together a minority government.
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Speaker 10: I guess you know.
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Speaker 17: I mean, you look at the two PP numbers is
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Speaker 17: only marginally behind, so it is possible. Three months ago,
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Speaker 17: no one thought a minority coalition government was possible. Now
44:17
Speaker 17: people are starting to talk about a majority coalition government
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Speaker 17: with Peter Dutton as Prime Minister in his own right.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they are, indeed, and it seems to me like
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Speaker 2: Ddan is feeling pretty confident that that could happen as well.
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Speaker 3: All right, Cameramel and David Gazard. Great to see you both. Now,
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Speaker 3: don't go anywhere.
44:36
Speaker 2: There's breaking news tonight that Hamas has provided the names
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Speaker 2: of hostages and the details of their medical conditions to Israel.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to cross live to Israel after this quick break.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back. Well.
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Speaker 2: In breaking news tonight, Channel twelve television in Israel has
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Speaker 2: reported that Hamas has provided the names of hostages and
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Speaker 2: details about their medical conditions to Israeli authorities. This is
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Speaker 2: even said to include the names of sick and elderly individuals. Now,
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Speaker 2: we're yet to have this information confirmed, and there are
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Speaker 2: also unconfirmed reports that a hostage deal could be imminent
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Speaker 2: or to discuss, I'm joined now by Israel's Special Envoy
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Speaker 2: to combating anti Semitism, Mikhail Kotler Wunsch, Mikhail, thank you
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Speaker 2: very much for joining me live in Israel. Look, if
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Speaker 2: this is true, this would be the most welcome news
45:29
Speaker 2: that we all desperately need.
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Speaker 18: Look, it has been the most devastating time for more
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Speaker 18: than four hundred and twenty days, for now one hundred families, communities,
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Speaker 18: and I would say the entire population in Israel that's
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Speaker 18: been devastated by the continued holding of one hundred hostages.
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Speaker 5: And yes, it would be welcome news.
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Speaker 18: But I want to point out four of the hundred
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Speaker 18: still held by a genocidal terror proxy of the Islamic
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Speaker 18: Republican in Iran, that is Kamas, who stole people from
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Speaker 18: their beds and youngsters dancing at a peace festival on
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Speaker 18: October seventh, twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 5: Four of the hundred that.
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Speaker 18: We count have actually been held by that Commas in
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Speaker 18: Gaza for more than ten years. And the reason that
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Speaker 18: that's important for me to underscore two deceased soldiers Adar
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Speaker 18: Golden and Aroonchaul, two civilians a Verra Mangisto and Hisham Asayad,
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Speaker 18: And for more than ten years we have been at
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Speaker 18: the UN we have spoken with the Red Cross we
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Speaker 18: have spoken with governments around the world and the systemic
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Speaker 18: failure to uphold existing laws to what is a standing
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Speaker 18: violation of international law. It's called the standing violation because
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Speaker 18: every second of every minute of every hour of every
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Speaker 18: day of every week of every month of these ten years,
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Speaker 18: the four human beings were held as currency, as human sacrifices,
46:54
Speaker 18: if you will, were enabled and emboldened the terror entities
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Speaker 18: actually then steal two hundred and fifty one more people
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Speaker 18: and continue holding another now ninety six in addition to
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Speaker 18: those four.
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Speaker 5: And that is a very critical piece that we have
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Speaker 5: to be clear about.
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Speaker 18: It is a manifestation that is a manifestation of the
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Speaker 18: systemic failure of democracies of Western powers to ensure that
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Speaker 18: international law, the international rules based order, is applied.
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Speaker 5: Equally and consistently across the board.
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Speaker 18: By the way, not just on terror entities of course,
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Speaker 18: who care not about international law or the international rules
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Speaker 18: based order, but on the countries that have enabled them,
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Speaker 18: including not just since October the seventh, twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 18: but for the last ten years Qatar, turky and so on.
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Speaker 18: And so that is just part and parcel of, yes,
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Speaker 18: the hope that we have to see those that are
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Speaker 18: alive back to their families for rehabilitation, those that have
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Speaker 18: been murdered returned for proper burial in Israel.
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Speaker 5: But we have to be very clear m terror.
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Speaker 18: Terror enabled to dictate, if you will, the terms and
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Speaker 18: conditions and equations by which democracies function is emboldened to
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Speaker 18: do so in every other context, not just in this context,
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Speaker 18: and not just in the geography that is the state
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Speaker 18: of Israel.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's hope that this time the reports are accurate,
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Speaker 2: because you know, it's so hard for the families to
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Speaker 2: get their hopes up and then to be devastated once again.
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Speaker 2: But we'll keep on bringing everyone news of this as
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Speaker 2: it unfolds, if it unfolds throughout the week. Now, Mikhail,
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Speaker 2: we've only got a minute or so left, but I
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Speaker 2: just want to ask you about the terrorist attack at
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Speaker 2: the Adas Synagogue here in Australia. Australians are just despairing
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Speaker 2: at the lack of leadership we've seen on anti Semitism,
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Speaker 2: and you mentioned the UN votes. Our government has had
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Speaker 2: only hostile positions at the UN. What do you think
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Speaker 2: we've got thirty seconds now? What does the aben Ezy
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Speaker 2: government need to.
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Speaker 18: Do look the Abanesi government that I'm going to say again,
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Speaker 18: it's the same part of the systemic failure to call
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Speaker 18: out with moral clarity and courage the anti Semitism, and
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Speaker 18: it is a tsunami of antisemitism in Melbourne, in Montreal,
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Speaker 18: in Washington, New York, around the world, on and since
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Speaker 18: October seventh, in response to the worst attack of Jews
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Speaker 18: since the Holocaust by genocidal terror proxies of an Islamic
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Speaker 18: regime in Iran, the failure to act to apply existing policies,
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Speaker 18: to apply existing rules, to ensure that what has been
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Speaker 18: enabled by silence and by neutrality and by false moral
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Speaker 18: equivalents top down, as you said, by government has actually.
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Speaker 2: Unleashed percent riot one percent. I'm sorry we've run out
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Speaker 2: of time, Michal, thank you very much for joining us.
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Speaker 3: I'll see you tomorrow at eight. And here is Paul
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Speaker 3: in the man Cave.