Latest / ZBD Sports Podcast / Episode 32 NFL Mid-Season Recap
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- 0:41SPEAKER_02: Another episode NFL NFL Week 9.
- 0:46SPEAKER_02: We're going into week 9, covering up week 8.
- 0:50SPEAKER_02: Potentially maybe a little bit of the college football rankings at the end if we get a little bit of time for that.
- 0:56SPEAKER_02: But we're trying to make a little bit of time for it.
- 0:58SPEAKER_02: But um, we're gonna be doing it a little bit differently.
- 1:02SPEAKER_02: Um, just trying to cover main storylines and um just some different topics.
- 1:07SPEAKER_02: So um, yeah, I mean major major news today.
- 1:11SPEAKER_02: Uh Jacoby Rossette going over to the Ravens um after losing both of their court or Lamar on the first play of the game.
- 1:22SPEAKER_02: That was crazy.
- 1:22SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, because it didn't even look awful.
- 1:25SPEAKER_02: But like I mean they showed a replay, you can see that bitch was broken.
- 1:28SPEAKER_02: No, yeah, for sure.
- 1:30SPEAKER_04: It was you can see there, that motherfucker, yeah, that was mad.
- 1:32SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and he just he just walked off the field, met like yeah, he already knew it was done.
- 1:38SPEAKER_02: And it yeah, it didn't even look like it really phased him.
- 1:41SPEAKER_04: He just Oh, yeah, I mean he was probably getting shot, you know what I'm saying?
- 1:43SPEAKER_04: Like journaling pump in Russia from the game.
- 1:46SPEAKER_04: So the pain probably didn't get too.
- 1:48SPEAKER_02: I mean, it was first play of the game.
- 1:50SPEAKER_02: He didn't even settle in at all.
- 1:51SPEAKER_04: I mean, yeah, but I mean you got feet, they've been out there, they get to the field.
- 1:54SPEAKER_04: I guess you know like 10 o'clock in the morning type shit.
- 1:58SPEAKER_02: First play, I don't know.
- 1:59SPEAKER_04: You in that mode when you in that when you locked in, we you know, a veteran like how Lamar is, and you coming off a you know saying he's he coming off an uh ankle injury or whatever, you know, having played in a little bit.
- 2:11SPEAKER_02: First game back, too.
- 2:12SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it is tough to that drilling, even though you just starting, but that drilling is pumpkin, you know what I'm saying?
- 2:17SPEAKER_04: You going through, you know, uh coin toss and then them doing the fucking pledge release and stuff.
- 2:23SPEAKER_04: So there's realistically a lot more time in between, you know, when the game from what we see on TV and shit.
- 2:29SPEAKER_04: So, you know, they locked in when they're in the locker room.
- 2:32SPEAKER_04: When they come out of there, you know, they ready to go.
- 2:34SPEAKER_04: That drilling is flowing, that you know what I'm saying?
- 2:37SPEAKER_04: So like he not that in like he probably also just like I said, so just didn't even realize what happened at first.
- 2:42SPEAKER_04: And I mean, you know, I try my kid.
- 2:46SPEAKER_02: I mean, bro, I mean, bro, with his fucking bone poking out of his thumb, he definitely knew.
- 2:51SPEAKER_02: I mean he didn't say him like the pain.
- 2:53SPEAKER_02: He saw a bone.
- 2:54SPEAKER_02: He's like, oh my fucking.
- 2:55SPEAKER_02: And that's probably what it was.
- 2:57SPEAKER_04: I mean, yeah.
- 2:57SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, he was definitely just pissed getting hurt again, as as anybody would be.
- 3:02SPEAKER_02: I mean, his fucking injuries are brutal in every sport.
- 3:06SPEAKER_02: And I mean, we see it, unfortunately, most games.
- 3:10SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, I mean, it's something you can't really do anything about.
- 3:15SPEAKER_02: Um, just gotta Lamar's just gotta try and rehab the best that he can and um just put himself back in the position to lose a Huntley too, yeah, same game.
- 3:26SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 3:27SPEAKER_04: So that's just kinda yeah, just bad luck.
- 3:32SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so I mean like Yukon.
- 3:34SPEAKER_04: Yeah, come on, man.
- 3:35SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so who he had to have a fucking uh oh a fucking superstar season in college to fucking get drafted from Yukon.
- 3:44SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 3:47SPEAKER_04: I did all.
- 3:48SPEAKER_02: I didn't know I didn't know anything about him.
- 3:50SPEAKER_02: I've never heard his name.
- 3:51SPEAKER_02: I didn't know anything.
- 3:52SPEAKER_04: I looked it up.
- 3:52SPEAKER_04: Or no, uh Cedric got worked to him.
- 3:54SPEAKER_04: Oh Cedric looked there.
- 3:55SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he was like, yeah, it's a motherfucker from Yukon.
- 3:58SPEAKER_02: I was like, well, yeah, they got they want me to get I know that he didn't think he was getting any snaps this year behind behind Lamar and Tyler Humpy.
- 4:07SPEAKER_04: Right, yeah.
- 4:07SPEAKER_04: But maybe so.
- 4:08SPEAKER_04: I mean, having two mobile quarterbacks, it's always a chance.
- 4:11SPEAKER_02: That's crazy, though, man.
- 4:12SPEAKER_02: Just I mean, yeah, both quarterbacks.
- 4:14SPEAKER_02: I mean, yeah, I mean, it just proves the point.
- 4:16SPEAKER_02: Next man up, you always gotta be ready.
- 4:18SPEAKER_02: Even the third string quarterback, you get Lamar's first game back, back from injury, and by the second quarter, it's on you now.
- 4:27SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's crazy.
- 4:29SPEAKER_04: And even I guess Huntley even played a little bit longer uh after fucking the initial injury.
- 4:36SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
- 4:40SPEAKER_04: So, you know, that probably didn't help either.
- 4:42SPEAKER_04: Um, Lamar potentially being out for the season, which would be you know back to back shot.
- 4:48SPEAKER_02: What do you think?
- 4:49SPEAKER_02: I mean, Jacoby Brissett, what do you think he could bring?
- 4:52SPEAKER_02: Uh bring to him.
- 4:53SPEAKER_02: Because I mean their defense still I mean their defense could still could still be intact.
- 4:59SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
- 4:59SPEAKER_04: I mean they've gave up 35, 38 in what 35 would the Bills put up.
- 5:06SPEAKER_04: We we put up 38 on them.
- 5:08SPEAKER_02: Yeah, what the Bills put up, 35.
- 5:10SPEAKER_02: But but it's but it's I mean, but it is tough because the offense ain't using the ball.
- 5:14SPEAKER_02: It's kind of like that, um like that Rams Giants game when Jackson Dart went out early in that game, and the Giants just could not do anything in the Rams, and and and the Rams were able to were able to get it's a little bit different.
- 5:31SPEAKER_04: Rams and look uh I don't know.
- 5:34SPEAKER_04: I mean, yeah, I guess it's the same.
- 5:36SPEAKER_02: But but it but it's the Bills offense who's been playing well all year, so you kind of expect that when the Ravens lose, or when they're yeah, especially when they lose their two quarterbacks, and especially when they're relying on a rookie who who's never played before.
- 5:50SPEAKER_04: Um defense still gotta do his job.
- 5:53SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 5:53SPEAKER_04: You know, giving up 20-25 is one thing, you know, giving up almost 40 back-to-back games.
- 5:59SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 5:59SPEAKER_04: Uh that's that's kind of coach.
- 6:02SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's culching.
- 6:02SPEAKER_04: And then also um only 11 rushing attempts for Derrick Henry for like 65 yards when the game was relatively close up until midway through the third quarter, going in the four fields 10 to 16 midway through the third quarter.
- 6:21SPEAKER_04: Like that game was like well within reach.
- 6:24SPEAKER_04: You know, there's no way this guy should only, you know, you should have been running the ball with him the whole goddamn third quarter.
- 6:29SPEAKER_04: If the game isn't that ring, he's averaging five yards of carry.
- 6:33SPEAKER_04: It's Derrick Henry.
- 6:34SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 6:34SPEAKER_04: You know, you shouldn't be out.
- 6:35SPEAKER_04: I mean, I don't know.
- 6:36SPEAKER_04: I think that's just coaching.
- 6:37SPEAKER_04: Honestly, that's just the schemes.
- 6:38SPEAKER_04: Jesse Mentor uh has has looked questionable with the coaching, and obviously something's going on with the defense, giving up that many points, and you just not Ravens want to run the ball.
- 6:49SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you know, even with Lamar Jackson there, they want to run the ball.
- 6:52SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
- 6:53SPEAKER_04: So why the hell would you not run the ball when you have a backup quarterback in and Huntley?
- 6:57SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 6:58SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
- 6:58SPEAKER_04: Like that should be you should be running the ball third, like what the fuck Tampa Bay did.
- 7:02SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 7:02SPEAKER_04: And that'd be fucking crazy ass game.
- 7:05SPEAKER_02: If Derrick Henry goes out, then maybe you need to I mean to then maybe you switch away from the run, but as long as you have either Lamar or Derrick Henry.
- 7:14SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we'll just find it.
- 7:16SPEAKER_02: Then then you gotta stick with the run for sure.
- 7:18SPEAKER_02: No, I do agree with you on that.
- 7:20SPEAKER_02: I mean yeah, I mean we'll see.
- 7:23SPEAKER_02: I mean, they we'll see what they do here now four and four.
- 7:27SPEAKER_02: Um not great.
- 7:28SPEAKER_02: I think oh and two in division, right?
- 7:31SPEAKER_02: Because they lost to you guys and they lost to um I feel like they lost to the Browns.
- 7:37SPEAKER_02: Or they might have beat the Bruce.
- 7:39SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 7:41SPEAKER_02: No, because the Steelers lost to the Browns, I know for sure, but I can't remember if the Ravens did two or not.
- 7:47SPEAKER_02: But I don't think the Ravens and Steelers have played though.
- 7:52SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 7:54SPEAKER_02: I can't remember who won that Ravens-Browns game, though.
- 7:58SPEAKER_02: But um Yeah, no, it'll be interesting.
- 8:04SPEAKER_02: Um, I mean, I could I mean I could see him not making the playoffs this year.
- 8:09SPEAKER_02: I mean, spe I mean well, I mean, it depends how Brissett does.
- 8:13SPEAKER_02: I guess a little bit as well.
- 8:14SPEAKER_02: But and and if their defense can tighten up a little bit, but just losing Lamar for potentially the rest of the year is just tough.
- 8:23SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's okay.
- 8:26SPEAKER_02: That's what I thought.
- 8:26SPEAKER_02: That's what I thought.
- 8:28SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, I mean the Bengals, I mean, Browns having a surprisingly good year as well.
- 8:35SPEAKER_02: Um, and and the Browns having that head-to-head, the first one at least.
- 8:40SPEAKER_02: Um the Steelers, the Steelers have a good defense.
- 8:43SPEAKER_02: They don't really look like I mean if their offense can put up like 20, they're hanging in that game.
- 8:51SPEAKER_02: So um I don't know.
- 8:53SPEAKER_02: The Ravens right now might I mean I mean the Browns on paper for sure are the worst, but um, I mean Ravens would be probably third on paper.
- 9:06SPEAKER_02: We'll see.
- 9:06SPEAKER_02: I'd probably say the I'd probably say the Steelers and Bengals have better teams than the Ravens without Lamar.
- 9:11SPEAKER_04: We'll see uh we'll see um what uh Shador does.
- 9:17SPEAKER_04: Yeah, potentially Sean Watson is in concussion protocol random.
- 9:21SPEAKER_04: So Shadur's gonna play after the game.
- 9:24SPEAKER_04: He's not yeah, that's kind of weird.
- 9:25SPEAKER_04: Uh but yeah, I guess Shador's starting.
- 9:27SPEAKER_04: So did they just say that today?
- 9:29SPEAKER_04: I read something about it um last night.
- 9:32SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so well we'll see uh they play this week.
- 9:37SPEAKER_02: Cleveland, I do not.
- 9:39SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, I I don't know if they played it, but I mean Shadur came into the came into some games last year at the end of the year, I feel like.
- 9:49SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he didn't play bad.
- 9:51SPEAKER_02: So I mean he's at a whole whole offseason training camp working under Deshaun.
- 9:59SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah, so I mean that could that could potentially be a game where he could he could play good.
- 10:04SPEAKER_02: For sure.
- 10:04SPEAKER_02: He could be I can that could be a high scoring game.
- 10:08SPEAKER_02: Um or or I mean or low.
- 10:10SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
- 10:11SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Saints could blow.
- 10:12SPEAKER_02: Or really Yeah, I don't know.
- 10:14SPEAKER_02: I don't think the Saints will blow him.
- 10:16SPEAKER_02: The Browns I feel like the Bro I mean the Browns defense is kept.
- 10:20SPEAKER_04: The Browns defense has kept everything relatively low scoring, I feel like.
- 10:24SPEAKER_04: You're not taking care of the ball instead of Saints offense.
- 10:26SPEAKER_04: We should be known as the thing.
- 10:28SPEAKER_02: What's the most that the Browns have let up?
- 10:32SPEAKER_02: They might have like one or two games where they let up a decent amount, but I feel like for the for the majority of the part, it's below like twenty like twenty-three, twenty-two, twenty-three.
- 10:47SPEAKER_02: Probably like average low twenties.
- 10:49SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 10:50SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 10:53SPEAKER_04: I don't think that's 27 of Pittsburgh, 24 to Tennessee, 27 of Pittsburgh again.
- 11:03SPEAKER_04: Uh so um yeah, the defense has been has been shown to give us a points.
- 11:09SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 11:09SPEAKER_04: So I mean it could be it could be a Saints offense, and the Saints offense is shown to be explosive at times.
- 11:17SPEAKER_04: At times.
- 11:18SPEAKER_04: You know they can score for sure.
- 11:21SPEAKER_04: More I mean, yeah, they got here.
- 11:23SPEAKER_04: They gotta put up 30 against you guys, 17 against Baltimore, 27 against Raiders, 24 against Atlanta, 34 against the Giants.
- 11:36SPEAKER_02: So I mean they can't they've had they've had a few games over 30, but it's in New Orleans.
- 11:40SPEAKER_02: But but but they're they're putting up as about as much as the Browns are letting up, so it'll it'll be a pretty good game.
- 11:49SPEAKER_02: Maybe I mean I mean I mean maybe not good, but just close, close game.
- 11:55SPEAKER_02: Um but uh move uh move or I mean do you want to talk about that division a little bit more, any of the other teams, or you just get past that for now?
- 12:10SPEAKER_02: Talk talk about the NFC.
- 12:11SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean we'll we'll probably get into it a little bit later.
- 12:14SPEAKER_02: But um, yeah.
- 12:16SPEAKER_02: Um so as of now, all the teams in the NFC North are um making the playoffs.
- 12:24SPEAKER_02: If if playoffs started today and the Rams and the Seahawks, the two most surprising to me, both at four and four, um, sitting on the outside of that.
- 12:35SPEAKER_02: Sitting on the I I I I think it's yeah, I mean, I think they're the they're the two teams closest to the bubble for the for the playoff picture right now.
- 12:44SPEAKER_02: So they can de either one of them could definitely creep back in on a run and get back in there for sure.
- 12:51SPEAKER_02: But um, yeah, I mean what do you think about all four of the NFC North teams with I think I feel like we're both or all of us are above or all of them are above um like two like like two wins.
- 13:06SPEAKER_02: Like like with their yeah, they're two wins above five hundred.
- 13:09SPEAKER_04: Well thing is that y'all all play against each other, so by default, I don't think all four of y'all are gonna make the playoffs.
- 13:18SPEAKER_04: No, I don't I don't think so either.
- 13:20SPEAKER_04: That would be crazy.
- 13:21SPEAKER_04: With that being said, I think you know the team, the odd one looking out for me or would be the Vikings.
- 13:27SPEAKER_04: Or maybe the the the the Packers, just because the Packers have shown some inconsistency this year for sure.
- 13:33SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 13:34SPEAKER_04: Um only two most the most two consistent teams have been Detroit and the Bears, in my opinion.
- 13:41SPEAKER_04: Uh so you know the wheels could fall off for both those teams as far as Packers and Vikings, where neither one of them two made the playoffs.
- 13:50SPEAKER_04: Um not likely, you know what I'm saying?
- 13:53SPEAKER_04: Because, you know, Seattle uh they they can't run the ball right now.
- 13:59SPEAKER_04: Um so and that's what they want to do.
- 14:02SPEAKER_02: So uh I mean well they they had uh Jadari Jadering Price was hurt for um what was it?
- 14:09SPEAKER_02: But he still didn't run the ball relatively well.
- 14:12SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 14:12SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean he's I mean he's also a rookie.
- 14:15SPEAKER_02: So then Kenneth Walters wasn't his first game back last game.
- 14:19SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so yeah, him and Sharpener.
- 14:22SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 14:22SPEAKER_04: Um so and then Sam Darnold is not played good, and eventually and being hurt right now, they're gonna be a good one.
- 14:30SPEAKER_04: I mean, well, I was in the game when he was.
- 14:32SPEAKER_02: I was telling him I was telling B-man before that um, or maybe last night that Drew Locke had been playing better than uh, yeah.
- 14:40SPEAKER_02: That was today.
- 14:41SPEAKER_02: No, that was today, okay.
- 14:42SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 14:43SPEAKER_02: No, I told him that where when Darnold got hurt earlier, the Drew Locke was low-key balling.
- 14:49SPEAKER_02: He was throw the ball to him.
- 14:54SPEAKER_02: I mean, he's I'm just saying, like I mean, he probably he's probably a little bit more mobile than Darnold as well.
- 15:00SPEAKER_04: Darnold wasn't those three games he played was the most fantasy points other than one other game that JSN got me.
- 15:07SPEAKER_04: Because Drew Locke threw it to his ass damn near every fucking, you know what I'm saying?
- 15:10SPEAKER_04: He knew Sam Darnold exactly the mobility their line isn't good.
- 15:15SPEAKER_04: And that's why they went and traded and got Quentin Nelson.
- 15:18SPEAKER_04: Uh but Chicago was all over that game against him.
- 15:24SPEAKER_04: Sam Darnold didn't have time, so that's another reason why he's turning the ball over, but he's you know just not playing good in general.
- 15:31SPEAKER_04: And I don't know if it's because they rushed him back or he wasn't healthy.
- 15:35SPEAKER_04: I don't know or if he's returning back to the the Sam Darnold of old.
- 15:40SPEAKER_04: But you know, that's what that's what led, that's what helped them to play or win the Super Bowl last year is because he played turnover-free football the whole playoffs.
- 15:52SPEAKER_04: He had the that Seattle actually had the most turnovers last year in the league as a team, which is rare that a team like that has the most turnovers, but also is that dominant as far as like how good their defense was with them turning the ball over as much as they did.
- 16:08SPEAKER_04: Sam Darnold still threw a decent amount of picks in the regular season.
- 16:13SPEAKER_04: The difference was in the playoffs he didn't turn the ball over.
- 16:16SPEAKER_04: So um he's kind of reverting back to that.
- 16:20SPEAKER_04: So yeah, it's putting that defense in, and that defense isn't quite as good as it was last year.
- 16:25SPEAKER_04: Um Chicago is a very good team, um, and they can beat you in multiple ways.
- 16:33SPEAKER_02: I feel like the Chicago has also had a few games this year where their defense has played a lot better than I expected them to.
- 16:39SPEAKER_04: Well, yeah, especially coming out that first game of the season against Carolina, you know, where it was like fucking 24 or 31 at halftime.
- 16:47SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 16:47SPEAKER_04: And then, you know.
- 16:49SPEAKER_04: But it takes time because they also had a new defensive coordinator this year.
- 16:53SPEAKER_04: You had a couple new pieces added in even before they got Simmons.
- 16:57SPEAKER_04: So you it it takes time for that chemistry and for them to get all on the same page, learning a new defensive scheme.
- 17:03SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 17:04SPEAKER_04: And we've seen that, and they have Dennis Allen as their defensive coordinator, who is a terrific defensive coordinator, one of the best in the league.
- 17:13SPEAKER_04: Um he was a defensive coordinator for the Chiefs for a while.
- 17:16SPEAKER_04: When the Chiefs, you know what I mean, like he's he's been everywhere he's gone, their defense has gotten better.
- 17:23SPEAKER_04: So um then you add uh Jeffrey Simmons to that mix, and that just he made an immediate impact that game.
- 17:32SPEAKER_04: I mean he had what six tackles, three for a loss, and then a sack.
- 17:37SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
- 17:37SPEAKER_04: So like he I mean like that's what you as a defensive or a nose tackle or a defensive tackle, that's what you want.
- 17:45SPEAKER_04: I mean, that's you know, if you he averaged that every fucking game, he went fucking, you know, he'd be in talks with defensive player the year.
- 17:52SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
- 17:52SPEAKER_04: So coming out, not even knowing the playbook that well, you know what I'm saying, and just getting after it right off rip, you know, that that Chicago team, you know, looks good, and then Seattle, you know, unfortunately, just shot themselves in the foot.
- 18:07SPEAKER_04: Um those the block field goal that changed and you know me and also just uh really, you know, kind of game management at times.
- 18:17SPEAKER_04: Um I didn't quite understand, understood what they were doing um as far as like not kicking a field goal at times, like they waited all the way till it got to whatever, and then tried it on fourth and four, because you're down by two scores, so you're gonna need a field goal, a touchdown.
- 18:35SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
- 18:35SPEAKER_04: Like, but why you just take the points?
- 18:37SPEAKER_04: You're down actually down by thin or down by 10.
- 18:40SPEAKER_04: So, you know what I'm saying?
- 18:41SPEAKER_04: You take the points right then and there.
- 18:43SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
- 18:44SPEAKER_04: Because you're gonna need fucking ten points anyways, like instead of wasting time trying to get a touchdown, kick a field goal, and just right in turn because you need an onside kick anyways.
- 18:54SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 18:54SPEAKER_04: So, you know what I'm saying?
- 18:55SPEAKER_04: Like, you and like you'd rather fucking just get some points rather than none, and then you well do what they did.
- 19:01SPEAKER_04: So, you mean they just I don't know what the hell is going on there, and then the targets, you know, the JSN.
- 19:09SPEAKER_04: I mean, they're running the ball with fucking six and seven minutes to go in the game, and they're down by 13.
- 19:18SPEAKER_04: I'm like, what the hell?
- 19:18SPEAKER_04: What are we it the drop?
- 19:20SPEAKER_04: They ran the ball two out of fucking the three plays.
- 19:24SPEAKER_04: First and second down.
- 19:25SPEAKER_04: What are we doing?
- 19:27SPEAKER_04: It'd be different if you had success on a on a run game and sure.
- 19:31SPEAKER_04: Even that's still questionable because you melt in time, but you haven't been able to run good all game all season, and you choose to do that shit.
- 19:38SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
- 19:39SPEAKER_04: But uh Chicago, overall, to me, I mean, and Detroit's defense has looked immensely better um over the last few games, but I still it's I still want to see them against a good good offense.
- 19:54SPEAKER_04: Um I haven't the the you know Minnesota's is sketchy.
- 19:59SPEAKER_04: Um and then you know, Green Bay's is inconsistent.
- 20:03SPEAKER_04: So I want to see them against exposed Chicago.
- 20:05SPEAKER_04: I've seen them against relatively good office.
- 20:07SPEAKER_04: Their defense is getting in.
- 20:08SPEAKER_04: They made a big move over the the trade deadline that could take them over the top.
- 20:14SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 20:15SPEAKER_04: Um so Minnesota, like I said, their offense, even if they able to pull off this, which we dive into more in this next topic, even if they are able to pull off a Jonathan Taylor, you know, it's still they can't throw the ball.
- 20:29SPEAKER_02: I mean, they I wouldn't even say the Minnesotas would be they're in talks.
- 20:33SPEAKER_02: I mean, that would bro, I mean you saw you you have Aaron Jones.
- 20:36SPEAKER_02: It's like sixteen Aaron Jones and Jordan Mason.
- 20:39SPEAKER_04: The Broncos are in talks with them.
- 20:42SPEAKER_04: They're in talks with them.
- 20:44SPEAKER_04: Minnesota Vikings should not go and get well Aaron Jones isn't good.
- 20:48SPEAKER_04: Like he's 32 years old.
- 20:49SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but if you can get a 28-year-old Jonathan Jordan Mason is injury prone, if you can get a 28-year-old Jonathan Taylor for two of those, you take that fucking deal.
- 21:00SPEAKER_04: Um and then I can't there's a few teams that's in a mix.
- 21:04SPEAKER_04: Uh I think the Texans maybe, or some shit like that.
- 21:09SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
- 21:10SPEAKER_04: There's a few teams that's in the mix to get him.
- 21:13SPEAKER_04: Um but even if they pull off that still can't, I still don't think Minnesota, because that defense is gonna uh wear down eventually as the season goes on if they gotta keep fucking saving the day.
- 21:25SPEAKER_04: Because the offense can't do shit.
- 21:27SPEAKER_04: So um like I said, Packers are inconsistent.
- 21:31SPEAKER_04: So that's why it leads me to pick Chicago, and I think Chicago has the best quarterback in that division.
- 21:39SPEAKER_04: Well best upside.
- 21:40SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
- 21:41SPEAKER_04: The mobileness, being able to move out of the pocket, and he doesn't turn the ball over.
- 21:47SPEAKER_04: For the most part.
- 21:49SPEAKER_04: And he makes and he's got a lot of weapons around him.
- 21:53SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
- 21:55SPEAKER_04: Swift can get off.
- 21:57SPEAKER_04: Uh Detroit, I mean, Detroit saying I don't know I just agree with it.
- 22:00SPEAKER_04: lot of way.
- 22:01SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we know yeah they do the only part is it's it's just the mobility.
- 22:05SPEAKER_02: Golf just can't get out get out of the pocket and just make those plays.
- 22:08SPEAKER_04: And that's the thing is if they were to stop Gibbs if Gibbs has a game where he's not playing good do you want to rely on golf to throw the ball 50 times.
- 22:18SPEAKER_04: You really don't but if Caleb Williams has to throw the ball 50 times I trust that a little bit more because like you said the mobility.
- 22:25SPEAKER_04: Yeah he's gonna make some plays with his feet.
- 22:27SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying he might rip off a 30 yard run.
- 22:30SPEAKER_02: He's not he's not gonna take the sacks.
- 22:31SPEAKER_04: Yeah and he's got good high IQ you know saying he hasn't turned up he's only got what two or three interceptions on a season.
- 22:38SPEAKER_02: He hasn't he does he hasn't had an interception since he's been back from the Andrew so another thing I was going to say about Chicago that is a little bit worrisome.
- 22:50SPEAKER_02: I mean yeah worrisome for the Lions fan having to play them two more times this year but is that the last three games since Caleb's been back they've just gotten off to early leads.
- 23:02SPEAKER_02: Right?
- 23:03SPEAKER_02: Like they'll go up 14 nothing 14 seven 21 seven and they're just not offense could just they're they're all wide receiver I mean yeah I mean but I mean they have Adunze Loveland um Burden are that I mean this their main three and Khalif Raymond has had a few plays where he's a big play against Seattle that's green.
- 23:26SPEAKER_04: Yeah but he had another big game as well yeah no yeah he's just one of those X Factor Swiss Army knife type players that but then you know you also got Menungai coming back as well he didn't run the ball particularly well even though he had three touchdowns but a lot of those touchdowns were they were inside the red zone he only he had like 20 something carries for like 60 yards so he averaged like three yards a carry he didn't he didn't run the ball particularly Chicago was not running the ball well it's just the turnovers from Seattle not being able to consistently drive the ball put Chicago in good position and they just walked down like that first possession of the game.
- 24:05SPEAKER_02: You know and then it was stalled out and going into the the the halftime it was seven to ten because Seattle got that fucking uh that or touchdown of JSN at the end of halftime yeah yeah um and then or no is like or no I think it was it I think it was 17-7 or maybe 17-10.
- 24:24SPEAKER_04: No because yeah 13-7 that's what it was 13-7 going into it because they're up Chicago was up 13-0 they scored that and then Chicago came out and scored a touchdown in the third quarter and went up 20 to 7.
- 24:37SPEAKER_04: Yeah yeah yeah and then Seattle scored another touchdown and then it it was field goals for a little bit after that back and forth and then Jason Myers got two of his field goals blocked I believe um that could have that ought that could have altered the game as well as far as just you know strategy and shit like that.
- 24:56SPEAKER_04: But um yeah Chicago just cashed and they didn't turn the ball over right I don't think they fumbled it didn't have any interceptions they didn't turn the ball over and when they got into the red zone they converted whether it's a touchdown or field goals.
- 25:13SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
- 25:14SPEAKER_04: And like I said most of those touchdowns that Swift got was you know within the 10 yard line so fantasy wise yeah hell yeah he crushed it.
- 25:25SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying with the three touchdowns.
- 25:27SPEAKER_02: But well Swift has also been I feel like I feel like he's been pretty good um as a receiving target.
- 25:32SPEAKER_02: Yeah no he's been like yeah I mean especially especially when Caleb's out there like he's he's he's definitely gonna spread it around and find everybody you know but um yeah I mean I don't know it's it's a toss up between the Lions and the Bears.
- 25:49SPEAKER_02: Um I think I mean I think the Vikings will fizzle out for sure.
- 25:53SPEAKER_02: I mean but I mean I mean I can't I can't say I can't even say that super confident because their start has definitely been impressive.
- 26:00SPEAKER_02: But um I mean just their quarterback situation their I mean their defense is definitely one of I mean top top three in the league for sure.
- 26:09SPEAKER_02: But quarterback situation I think I think them not getting the ball to Justin Jefferson I I think it's I mean I don't think it's I mean I don't think it'll it might not run him out of Minnesota but I feel like he might get a little bit tired of it at a point just not being um just not having the seasons of like like that all the people like like just the the top five top ten receivers are having because I think I saw a stat where he was like bottom bottom fifty or bottom sixty in yards this year.
- 26:47SPEAKER_02: And like Justin Jefferson you don't like you know Justin Jefferson doesn't want a stat like that.
- 26:53SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
- 26:54SPEAKER_02: So I I don't know.
- 26:56SPEAKER_02: I feel like that's just that's a little bit of a question mark with Minnesota to me.
- 27:00SPEAKER_02: Something I'd be worried about if I was a Minnesota fan to be honest.
- 27:03SPEAKER_02: But they are winning though so we kind of take winning over over individual stuff at a point.
- 27:09SPEAKER_02: Right yeah that's true.
- 27:11SPEAKER_02: That's true uh speaking of Minnesota like I said it leads into the next topic because they are uh looks like the top of the team aggressively uh trying to get him pulled up a list here we got Minnesota um trying to get up Denver is in there Green Bay is linked in there New York Giants stay in stay in Indianapolis New York Giants is linked as well uh Cincinnati Bengals are is linked and Seattle Seahawks so those are the six teams that have been um I guess making calls or wait who is at the top or yeah Vikings Broncos Packers I don't even know who I think you'd best fit on because I mean maybe the Seahawks but they don't really have Broncos would be dangerous Broncos but I like I mean I like I mean I'm not even saying it's just for fantasy but I like Jonah Coleman though I think Jonah Coleman might be RB no for someone like Jonathan Taylor you fucking kidding me stop it bro that would change Denver bro that would change them it would yeah you know I'm saying that would with that defense yeah Jonah you don't know yeah Jonah might have to sit back and take RB2 and then fucking you know Bo Nicks I'm straight with Bo Nick's you know the ability to run the ball you really don't know what could happen in that backfield uh Green Bay it just yeah just just getting waddled too but they they got Jacobs but who knows what might end up happening with Jacobs and if they don't have him then John Taylor would get every single every single run.
- 28:55SPEAKER_02: So maybe the Giants don't believe in uh Scatterboard no no maybe I mean if they're linked in why the hell would they even be in no they benched they benched him that one three the fumbles and shit but that's what I'm saying the next game after he went for like 130 and bro yeah he had a big game if you truly believe in him he wouldn't they wouldn't be on this list what I'm saying I guess so I'm saying what other and what you know I'm saying we got question marks and obviously Cincinnati you know why wouldn't you want to pair you know add that you mean Joe Burrow Chase T Higgins and Jonathan Taylor I mean that would just be a fucking I mean just a monument that'd be I mean maybe our would be greatest offense ever that'd be nasty.
- 29:39SPEAKER_04: But then Seattle yeah they got question marks there.
- 29:42SPEAKER_02: So you know I'm saying like every team on this list has question marks as far as running backs apparently Giants do too uh so yeah they don't it's not believing them best fit I mean oh yeah I got I don't know I think I feel like Broncos would probably be the best fit I think they like to run the ball we don't like to run the ball so you know what I'm saying I mean well because everybody or Seattle well every Seattle or Denver I would say the best fit is for but it's tough though because I mean all the teams on that defense or or all the teams on that list their defense are all pretty solid for the most part um especially when Green Bay gets Micah back Micah's gonna I think he's gonna be back within the next few weeks.
- 30:24SPEAKER_02: Correct they could have a top I mean and also I'm looking at run heavy teams.
- 30:28SPEAKER_04: Yeah yeah for sure Seattle's a run heavy team Denver but tends to be a run heavy team but also Minnesota is too but that's not gonna change anything for Minnesota.
- 30:38SPEAKER_04: So um that's why I'm just looking at like best fit like as far it could be a good I mean it really is probably is a is a best fit but I'm just thinking as far as like it's not gonna you know win them a championship but it is a good fit because you know they could they like to run the ball as well.
- 30:52SPEAKER_04: They want to not throw the ball with Kyler Murray at all.
- 30:55SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 30:55SPEAKER_04: It's possible.
- 30:56SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying because so um yeah him throwing that shim yeah Kyler Murray throwing the ball is definitely scared exactly so and then obviously you haven't yeah JJ McCarthy um playing good but you know he's only in his what third year so and really first time I think I think JJ's solid he is but you don't want to you still don't want to have as much and he was playing for hardball hardball likes to run the ball he's already used to a hardball for the other one though what they do in college he threw the ball like 20 25 times again they just ran that bitch all the time did y'all not yeah just fed the ball with Corum and fucking uh what's the what's the other god I can't remember Donovan Edwards.
- 31:38SPEAKER_04: Yes sir yeah yeah yeah exactly so yeah y'all that's what y'all want to do um when McCormick was efficient yeah but because of the threat of the run because you had two dominant running backs even when Corum left Donovan Edwards took over that nigga still I don't he got he was getting the fuck off y'all was and not to mention y'all had y'all won an award back to back years for having the best offensive line in the fucking country so that helped y'all had all Americans all across that bitch.
- 32:08SPEAKER_04: So we're not listening when you got five seconds on the ball somebody gonna get open I'm just saying I mean yeah y'all won a chance y'all won a championship for a reason because y'all had a that offensive line was nasty.
- 32:19SPEAKER_04: Somebody watched college football somebody else had the best offensive line we're not gonna get into that that was I'm just saying but that's why McCarthy that helped McCarthy a lot when he was in that first year in Minnesota there's a reason why he got benched last year.
- 32:33SPEAKER_04: Calm down let's not act like this like bro we act like this nigga never started before he didn't it's a reason why Minnesota shipped his ass off for a bag of chips I'm just being honest with you brought too day bro when he's got traded by Minnesota bro they got no you got Justin Jefferson over disrespectful you're not getting him the ball he got the ball why you not getting him the ball he was not getting that's why he was bro what?
- 33:04SPEAKER_04: And they had the same defense they had last year.
- 33:07SPEAKER_04: Minnesota was in the top five defense ranked last year still good and that offense they they won seven and oh they bitched this guys for Carson Wentz because they wouldn't win it.
- 33:18SPEAKER_04: So I'm just saying bro let's like it's been two games let's pump the brakes on McCarthy.
- 33:22SPEAKER_04: Let's start off with that bro just want to come bro y'all niggas wildin' man it's mischief three bro that's efficient all I say is that bro after two games bro what are we talking about here bro who do the Giants play that game bro let me see who the fuck do they beat because I'm interested in see who they beat was the Saints okay man yo bro what are we talking about the Saints earlier bro because they I said their offense is it's been up and down but they showed they can score they can the Giants have a good defense not really they got good defense.
- 33:59SPEAKER_04: That offense put up some points a lot of fucking games because the defense goes neighbors just got four games and they played in Texas a struggling Texas team in the States their combined record is two and or four and ten between those two teams that we're talking about bro I'm just gonna just keep that in mind.
- 34:22SPEAKER_04: Alright it's all right let's see them go against a team that's uh a Packers a Detroit Lions a Chicago a Rams a 49ers a Seattle let me see them go again other than the fucking NFC East team or my bad or the fucking Texans who defense ain't played good all year.
- 34:42SPEAKER_04: So come on man just like I said just pump the breaks on him.
- 34:47SPEAKER_04: Yeah he was able to he was able to put it he played he threw for 212 yards wasn't was that the game he got subbed in no that's the game where he started okay cam Scatterboo played good the game he got subbed in was the game that Cam Scattaboo got bent so uh that's what I'm saying bro let's pump the brakes on that man alright all right let's just let's just you know until the Giants play some they probably got a weak ass schedule but I'm just saying man they gotta play the Lions so yeah that's yeah and I know who you're gonna pick to win that game I wonder why hey I might I might I might pick JJ nah no one no one believes that bro you're crazy so yeah like I'm saying man any other big names on the trade deadline or is JT really the main one.
- 35:45SPEAKER_04: There's a couple more anything going on with Brandon Ayuk he recently filed to be reinstated to be back on the team but uh Shanahan Kyle Shanahan said it he still has no interest or interest in in no in in playing they should just trade him give him a chance somewhere else dude but no because I remember when um I think Iuk only played I mean he got a few years.
- 36:21SPEAKER_04: Um Brian Thomas Jr.
- 36:24SPEAKER_04: Brian Thomas Jr has been uh shopping or rumored but I mean he's been rumored to be yeah okay for uh like the last year or two which because I mean if they don't use him I mean I don't know that dude was a fucking dog coming out of LSU yeah and he had a good first couple I don't know they don't yeah yeah park Washington's kind of taking over and they also have uh Jacoby Myers Jacoby Myers but Travis Hunter has also played some snaps at wide receivers I think he just caught his first touchdown last game Bronx and Strange their tight end has been playing good strange good but so yeah I mean it's just maybe it's just no room for him but a lot of people over there for sure um so yeah he should I mean he I don't know I think maybe a change of scenery could you know maybe bring him back to you know life or whatever um but he's been talked about like I said for the last couple years you know as far as like um trade rumors uh George Pickens has been a rumor but I don't know if any of these are I don't know if Dallas I mean I feel like because Dallas hasn't had him for super long and he's been pretty good.
- 37:32SPEAKER_02: But in France they keep franchise tagging them so um I typically if they do that you know it's like you know anything like what is my sign you must not believe in me to keep signing me for one or two year deal you'll mean just franchise gonna be so he probably wants a long term deal just because they have C D exactly so I mean that's just tough but if you have if you have those if you have if you believe in those two receivers you want to keep them yeah you gotta pay him or is um I mean how much is what's um T and Jamar's contracts I don't know I know they're both well off in a hundred million I mean or like what's like what's the year range though oh I think Chase's was like five or six or something like that and he T Hagen's was four years.
- 38:20SPEAKER_04: So and speaking of that is is it almost about time for yeah Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow um because I think Chase signed his before Burrow did in 2022.
- 38:33SPEAKER_04: So it's like right after that Super Bowl maybe 2027 yeah that's what I'm saying so yeah we gotta we gotta fit T is good for the next couple years but we gotta which I'm not worried we'll fucking we'll we'll we'll we'll get that done um for sure.
- 38:48SPEAKER_04: Joe and Jamar at the same time definitely I mean I mean you're probably gonna figure it out we'll just get extent maybe extensions you know instead of not that's what it is a lot of times it'll just like a two year extension for you know what I'm saying 30 million now you sign through 2030 okay type shit you know what I'm saying like rather than doing another I mean I guess yeah so uh Derrick Henry I guess is you know rumored but that's just because of uh you know Baltimore season kind of imploding yeah but I mean dude you still got you still have Lamar and I mean he's your guy and yeah I mean but but I mean but and and but this none of this money that that contract he signed nothing none of this fully guaranteed money I guess I'll write about so I mean that's interesting yeah um so then also like Lamar's out for the season are you really gonna Derrick Henry's 32 even though he's still playing good but are they gonna re-sign him again he's getting older right you know what I'm saying like he signed was it it was a year or two years a year 16 million or some shit like that so um you know at some point you know you like well if we could trade we get some because there are some teams that probably would give up some picks right now you know a team that's just needing a running back right you know what I'm saying that's in championship contention me bro would you take money take them on the Bengals fuck yeah it would are you kidding me not a question at all we as soon as we get down to the goal I mean five ten yard line just give just keep giving his ass a ball you know what I'm saying yeah we don't and then also I mean we throw the ball as much as we do uh we throw the ball as much as we do bro so like I'm like that that that run would open up right and then we're not putting too much stress on him but then Jerry Judy and Josh Downs uh have been mentioned Judy has kind of been another one that's been like Brian Thomas I remember him being shopping around or uh talked about last year yeah yeah is he is he still on the Browns yeah still on yeah that's what I'm saying exactly like we yeah you forget even there because he just you know I feel like they're playing rookies over him at this point Boston and KC Concepcion and yeah shit like that and then fucking also uh Harold Fair Jr.
- 41:03SPEAKER_04: Yeah he's a tight end but he's been he's been getting a good amount of the reception so yeah easy and then Josh Downs I mean obviously that's you know he's been talked about for like the last couple weeks just Indiana is trading Josh Downs is a fantasy yeah I mean that's fantasy I mean I think if he go to I mean he can go so a place like uh um we'll say let me skip I mean you know a place like Buffalo um I think he he paid dividends over there I mean just because DJ Moore being in and out of the fucking lineup every goddamn week oh he's not dude he's gonna be good bro I know it's fanish but let's be real I mean that's why that's why Chicago gave him away I mean I'm just saying like think about it bro he played for Carolina and he was very he had had explosive you know showed a lot in Carolina but the injury problem then he got to Chicago and the injury he missed you look every every season he's he's I don't think he's played a full season maybe the first two or maybe when he's like rookie or some shit like that but since DJ Moore has become DJ Moore and you know I'm saying he hasn't had a full season yet he didn't have a full season last year so I'm just saying like the injury is he's in and out you know I'm saying like you Josh Downs is healthy he's a slot receiver like that's a receiver that you can throw the ball to at the for a bubble or screen a couple blocks he to the end zone.
- 42:25SPEAKER_04: Yeah you know I mean Danny Dynes hasn't particularly played well this year.
- 42:29SPEAKER_02: He hasn't and then he had Phillip River there back yeah he's definitely taking a step back since he's come back from his injury for sure that's what I'm saying it's been tough to see too because I remember Indianapolis started really good last year and he was he was playing really good and then he tore his ACO and then they were starting to slow down even before he got hurt though.
- 42:47SPEAKER_04: Yeah a little bit won their first six or seven but then they lost three or fourth or two or three they they didn't look like they weren't he started to play like how Daniel Jones was playing you gotta think he didn't he got bent in New York right then he wasn't even supposed to start coming in you I mean they took a chance on his ass and you know I mean he really didn't play football for a minute nobody had filming Jonathan Taylor was off to a fucking crazy ass start last year.
- 43:12SPEAKER_04: That's another you know I'm saying like he then their defense is playing a lot better than it is this year.
- 43:18SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean but Jonathan Taylor was it opened up everything for Daniel Jones to play and Alec Pierce not being in and out of the lineup since he's been there Michael Pittman was inconsistent uh Josh Downs isn't a number one you mean they're treating him like a number one he's not like and that's not you know that's some players aren't like that you got Keenan on he's right he's fucking fit he's fucking a a goddamn dinosaur out there bro he's a goddamn dinosaur out there bro you know say you know he's tired as fuck after every game you know what I'm saying so like you can't really so like he's not a number one like if you have a a number one and and and someone to take that off of him you know I mean or other consistent then then you can see just Josh Downs kind of give me shine.
- 44:01SPEAKER_04: I don't think he just needed new scenery.
- 44:04SPEAKER_04: A place like that, you mean hell in Detroit.
- 44:06SPEAKER_04: He'd help y'all.
- 44:08SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
- 44:09SPEAKER_04: Josh Downs would be solid in Detroit.
- 44:10SPEAKER_04: A little slot.
- 44:11SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
- 44:11SPEAKER_04: So y'all got Tesla is y'all slot.
- 44:14SPEAKER_04: Or y'all got J-Mo, you got St.
- 44:16SPEAKER_04: Brown, and then you got, you know what I'm saying?
- 44:18SPEAKER_04: You got Laporta, but you mean you got Josh Downs in there?
- 44:21SPEAKER_02: That's straight.
- 44:22SPEAKER_02: It's really just St.
- 44:23SPEAKER_02: Brown.
- 44:23SPEAKER_02: It's like I mean.
- 44:24SPEAKER_04: Well, I mean, I should Green, and then Green Bay could use another.
- 44:28SPEAKER_04: They can always use more receivers.
- 44:29SPEAKER_04: Gold and but they got all they got more drops than anybody.
- 44:32SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
- 44:33SPEAKER_04: They fucking.
- 44:34SPEAKER_02: They really just have golden on Watson.
- 44:35SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 44:37SPEAKER_04: So we can go down the list.
- 44:38SPEAKER_04: I mean, Rams could use him.
- 44:40SPEAKER_04: Devontae Adams out for the season.
- 44:42SPEAKER_04: Matthew Stafford could definitely get him the ball.
- 44:44SPEAKER_04: Come on now.
- 44:45SPEAKER_04: I mean, I can next thing you know, they can make a fucking run and drop.
- 44:47SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
- 44:48SPEAKER_04: So it's a lot of teams out there that, you know, that could use him and use his services.
- 44:53SPEAKER_04: And I don't think he's a he's maybe a bust in fantasy, but that doesn't mean he's a bust in.
- 44:59SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
- 45:00SPEAKER_04: And it's a lot of players that play really good throughout.
- 45:04SPEAKER_04: Like Mahomes ain't never been really a top, other than his first couple two, three years in the NFL when he was throwing fucking 40 and 50 touchdowns.
- 45:12SPEAKER_04: He wasn't really a top fantasy go-getter.
- 45:15SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
- 45:16SPEAKER_04: But he performed every fucking time.
- 45:19SPEAKER_04: The motherfucker got three goddamn Super Bowls.
- 45:21SPEAKER_04: So it don't fucking matter if I'm talking about fantasy.
- 45:23SPEAKER_04: Like he's not he, you know what I mean?
- 45:24SPEAKER_04: Like so.
- 45:28SPEAKER_04: Not with him.
- 45:29SPEAKER_04: We can say that we can say it will be questions coming soon here as far as Mahomes.
- 45:35SPEAKER_04: Um, I think in the next year or two, is greatness.
- 45:39SPEAKER_04: Uh when you look at his numbers, I know this ain't on the paper.
- 45:42SPEAKER_04: You look at his numbers the last few years.
- 45:44SPEAKER_00: Is he like 27 now?
- 45:46SPEAKER_02: 28.
- 45:47SPEAKER_04: He's about 29 or 20.
- 45:49SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
- 45:49SPEAKER_02: He's probably pushed.
- 45:50SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he's probably eight, twenty-nine.
- 45:53SPEAKER_04: But yeah, so you kind of got to look at for a sec.
- 45:55SPEAKER_01: I was like, oh, he's quarterly.
- 45:58SPEAKER_02: Is he like 28, I believe?
- 46:00SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
- 46:02SPEAKER_04: But just as you know, his numbers and performance.
- 46:05SPEAKER_04: Um, and then uh A, he haven't really had consistent receiver play, but you look at someone like Tom Brady.
- 46:13SPEAKER_02: You look at someone he got spanked and they haven't really recovered.
- 46:17SPEAKER_04: Well, no, no, not even.
- 46:19SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 46:19SPEAKER_04: Well, no, because what's it that?
- 46:21SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 46:22SPEAKER_02: They haven't really recovered.
- 46:23SPEAKER_04: Well, even that, um, I'll tell you this, even that year, bro, they didn't, they was just winning off the strength of being experience and luck.
- 46:31SPEAKER_04: I mean, they were they won like 18 or 19 straight one possession game.
- 46:37SPEAKER_04: Like they were just getting the better ends of a lot of that shit because they're a championship team.
- 46:41SPEAKER_04: But when they came up against a team like Philly that was playing the way they playing, and the AFC that year wasn't really consistent.
- 46:47SPEAKER_04: And I always go back and always say, hey, that's just the way that depends.
- 46:51SPEAKER_04: And the AFC, the only quarterback to beat them, the only quarterback to beat them other than Tom Brady is Joe Burrow.
- 46:58SPEAKER_04: So, and Joe Burrow wasn't there.
- 47:00SPEAKER_04: Jalen Hurts, Tom Brady, and Joe Burrow are the only quarterbacks to beat Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs in his career.
- 47:07SPEAKER_04: Think about that.
- 47:08SPEAKER_04: So that's what I'm saying.
- 47:09SPEAKER_04: Not Josh Allen, not Lamar Jackson, not none of them other motherfuckers.
- 47:12SPEAKER_04: So it was no Joe, wasn't no Tom Brady.
- 47:16SPEAKER_04: So, you know what I'm saying?
- 47:17SPEAKER_04: Nobody in the AFC, that's they just can't beat that nigga.
- 47:19SPEAKER_04: I don't know what it is.
- 47:20SPEAKER_04: So, and Kansas City, yeah, they went 15-2 or 14.
- 47:25SPEAKER_04: They look good, but they didn't look that great as far as just how they were playing.
- 47:29SPEAKER_04: They were just, they squeaked by a lot of them games.
- 47:31SPEAKER_04: They went blowing niggas out on the offense and looked that great.
- 47:33SPEAKER_04: And we've seen that when they went against Philadelphia, who had everything going.
- 47:37SPEAKER_04: Saquon first year there, defense was good, Jalen Hurst played good.
- 47:43SPEAKER_04: Or the Philly City.
- 47:44SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it was really good.
- 47:45SPEAKER_04: Kansas Cities was too.
- 47:46SPEAKER_02: Well, because I feel like in the yeah it has to do with coaching.
- 47:50SPEAKER_01: Well, Kansas City.
- 47:51SPEAKER_01: They've had Andy Reid.
- 47:53SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well it's yeah, Andy Reid's it's kind of like the same thing with Pittsburgh as well.
- 47:57SPEAKER_02: It's kind of like how they had the same how they've had the same coach.
- 48:01SPEAKER_02: Or um because who who did who did Mike Talman?
- 48:05SPEAKER_02: They just let go of Mike Talman and he was there for like twenty or twenty-five years.
- 48:10SPEAKER_02: Some crazy remote.
- 48:11SPEAKER_02: But they've only had bro, yeah.
- 48:13SPEAKER_02: When they got rid of him, I didn't realize they'd only had that he was only their um third their third coach.
- 48:19SPEAKER_02: Like this new guy is only their fourth coach in their history.
- 48:23SPEAKER_02: That's great.
- 48:24SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 48:24SPEAKER_02: So that's that's just greatness.
- 48:27SPEAKER_03: That organization is.
- 48:28SPEAKER_02: I feel like Kansas City's probably about Kansas City's probably about the has probably uh had about the same amount of coaches as well.
- 48:36SPEAKER_04: No, more than that.
- 48:42SPEAKER_02: Before that, we did that a lot.
- 48:44SPEAKER_04: Andy Reid.
- 48:45SPEAKER_02: I mean well, I was like I was just saying that because I know Andy Reid's been there for a while, he has probably the better part of the 2000s.
- 48:53SPEAKER_04: What the eighties or seventies and shit?
- 48:55SPEAKER_04: Cheese ones.
- 48:56SPEAKER_02: Cheese is there we go.
- 48:58SPEAKER_04: Yeah, bro.
- 49:01SPEAKER_04: I feel like the amount that Pittsburgh has had.
- 49:05SPEAKER_04: You say kind of close.
- 49:06SPEAKER_04: I mean, that's Green Bay's closer.
- 49:08SPEAKER_04: I'd say Green Bay, yeah.
- 49:09SPEAKER_04: Green Bay is probably close.
- 49:10SPEAKER_04: They have Mike McCarthy for a long time.
- 49:13SPEAKER_02: Dallas, maybe.
- 49:14SPEAKER_04: Maybe, but the last 20 years they've been res going through coaches.
- 49:18SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 49:19SPEAKER_02: So probably the Patriots.
- 49:21SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the Patriots, yeah, they have Billich for uh Ravens.
- 49:25SPEAKER_04: They're another one.
- 49:26SPEAKER_04: Ravens is only because they only had 15.
- 49:28SPEAKER_04: 15, oh shit.
- 49:37SPEAKER_02: They've had a lot.
- 49:38SPEAKER_02: Just the Steelers only had crazy.
- 49:42SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that is true, yeah.
- 49:55SPEAKER_04: That's crazy that he had 16 and he was there for 23 years.
- 49:59SPEAKER_02: The Patriots have had 16?
- 50:01SPEAKER_02: Wow, like the Broncos.
- 50:03SPEAKER_00: That's so bad.
- 50:05SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
- 50:05SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's insane the Stewart's only at four, dude.
- 50:08SPEAKER_02: Insane.
- 50:08SPEAKER_02: And they've probably made they've made the playoffs really a good amount, haven't they?
- 50:12SPEAKER_02: Broncos had twenty.
- 50:13SPEAKER_04: Twenty?
- 50:14SPEAKER_04: How much of Bengals?
- 50:15SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I got two.
- 50:18SPEAKER_04: How many lions?
- 50:19SPEAKER_04: Yeah, y'all went.
- 50:20SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we gotta see it all.
- 50:22SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the lions.
- 50:25SPEAKER_01: Wow.
- 50:26SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 50:29SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 50:30SPEAKER_03: Lions.
- 50:30SPEAKER_03: Oh, this is gonna be funny.
- 50:32SPEAKER_03: This is gonna be great for the Lions.
- 50:35SPEAKER_03: 30.
- 50:45SPEAKER_04: I thought he was gonna say like 15 or some shit.
- 50:47SPEAKER_04: Bro said 30.
- 50:49SPEAKER_04: Oh my god, Detroit.
- 50:54SPEAKER_04: Man, it is.
- 50:59SPEAKER_04: He only been there for like six years.
- 51:03SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna look up something wild, like the Jaguars, because they Oh well they they might not have a lot because they've only been in the league for like since the 90s.
- 51:11SPEAKER_01: Oh, you're right.
- 51:12SPEAKER_01: They've only had nine.
- 51:13SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they yeah, they're a late expansion team.
- 51:15SPEAKER_04: Same thing with Houston, Arizona.
- 51:17SPEAKER_04: The Titans.
- 51:20SPEAKER_04: I mean, yeah, this probably this last 20 years, they've been a lot.
- 51:23SPEAKER_04: But uh 22.
- 51:24SPEAKER_04: 22 is bad.
- 51:26SPEAKER_02: Lions were just fucking dogwater forever.
- 51:31SPEAKER_04: Midseason MVP.
- 51:34SPEAKER_04: We had every guy like two or three years, and they're like that's crazy who I'm trying to think of who else.
- 51:40SPEAKER_04: I don't think Seattle went through that many.
- 51:42SPEAKER_04: Look up, yeah, they have but they they're kind of newer too, but I think they've only had like because Pete Carroll was there for fucking ever.
- 51:49SPEAKER_04: He was there for a while, yeah.
- 51:51SPEAKER_04: They probably only have four or five.
- 51:55SPEAKER_01: Nine.
- 51:56SPEAKER_01: Nine, I'm surprised.
- 51:58SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 52:01SPEAKER_01: Pete Carroll was there for twenty ten to twenty twenty.
- 52:08SPEAKER_02: Oh season MVP.
- 52:11SPEAKER_02: Um I don't know.
- 52:25SPEAKER_02: Not gonna lie.
- 52:28SPEAKER_02: The top of my list.
- 52:31SPEAKER_04: Trevor Lawrence is virtual 17 touchdowns.
- 52:36SPEAKER_02: He's done big.
- 52:37SPEAKER_04: I think four interceptions.
- 52:38SPEAKER_04: He's Trevor Lawrence has played some ball for sure.
- 52:42SPEAKER_04: Brock Purdy.
- 52:43SPEAKER_02: Josh Allen's definitely done.
- 52:45SPEAKER_02: Josh Allen.
- 52:46SPEAKER_02: He's played really good as well.
- 52:47SPEAKER_02: He hasn't he hasn't had a ton of turnovers.
- 52:50SPEAKER_04: JSN.
- 52:52SPEAKER_04: Yeah, just number.
- 52:53SPEAKER_04: I mean, it's his start.
- 52:54SPEAKER_04: Jameer.
- 52:54SPEAKER_04: Jameer.
- 52:55SPEAKER_02: Jameer as well.
- 52:56SPEAKER_04: Um I wouldn't say JSN is on pace to break Calvin Rec Calvin Johnson's record.
- 53:03SPEAKER_04: So that's why I gotta put him in.
- 53:05SPEAKER_04: And then also because he's the only threat on Seattle's offense.
- 53:11SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 53:11SPEAKER_04: And you know where the ball's going every time, and this motherfucker still is open.
- 53:16SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
- 53:17SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
- 53:17SPEAKER_04: I just feel like that's greatness, dude.
- 53:20SPEAKER_04: When you have no one else on your other side to take away, and the defense knows exactly who the fuck the ball is going to.
- 53:27SPEAKER_04: And this motherfucker's almost got a thousand receiver yards already, if not a thousand, and it's eight, nine weeks or games into the season, bro.
- 53:36SPEAKER_04: That's crazy.
- 53:38SPEAKER_04: Like so I and then see, I mean, he won't win because Seattle is four and four, but you know, he's I mean, just off the numbers though, yeah.
- 53:46SPEAKER_02: And I mean, yeah, because he's definitely, I mean, receivers ain't gonna get him.
- 53:50SPEAKER_02: He's a receiver, so he's not gonna get it, but you know, if Drew Locke's coming back, he might be getting more even more.
- 53:58SPEAKER_02: I mean, honestly, bro, I mean, if he breaks, well, because I saw that he was on pace to beat um the homes.
- 54:05SPEAKER_02: Whoever's touched whoever's touched on the record.
- 54:08SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
- 54:11SPEAKER_02: Is it is it Randy Morrison?
- 54:12SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's got 21.
- 54:14SPEAKER_02: He's not 20.
- 54:15SPEAKER_02: He's not he's on pace to beat that.
- 54:17SPEAKER_02: And then he's on and then he's on pace to beat Calvin Johnson's um receiving yards as well.
- 54:23SPEAKER_02: So he's on pace to beat both of those in the same year, which would be insane.
- 54:27SPEAKER_02: And so like like if he if he does that, then and gets the triple crown.
- 54:31SPEAKER_00: Yeah, if he does that and gets the triple crown, then can you not have a couple of things?
- 54:34SPEAKER_00: But I mean, how are you not gonna give it away?
- 54:40SPEAKER_02: But if he if he beats those two records though, if he gets if he gets 22 plus, if he gets 20 plus touchdowns, and what what did Megatron have?
- 54:49SPEAKER_02: Like 2500 or 23?
- 54:50SPEAKER_02: Like 22 or something, or was it 25?
- 54:53SPEAKER_02: I I can't I can't remember I can't remember exactly how many.
- 54:56SPEAKER_02: But some astronomical fucking I mean if he gets 2,000 and and 20 touchdowns, that's bro, that's insane, bro.
- 55:04SPEAKER_02: And the fact and the fact that Sam Darnold has not been playing anywhere near as good, you don't have much of a run game, and you really only have one receiver.
- 55:13SPEAKER_02: Like you like you have some other guys that you can't like that you can throw to, but it's really just him.
- 55:18SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 55:19SPEAKER_02: So I don't know.
- 55:21SPEAKER_04: That's yeah, it'd be tough.
- 55:22SPEAKER_04: And and and the fact that when they typically don't give it to if they like Seattle misses the playoffs, for example, like say they're not, I mean, that's why and that's probably what they didn't give it.
- 55:31SPEAKER_04: But also Cooper Cup, I don't think got MVP the year when he got his triple crown when the Rams won a Super Bowl.
- 55:38SPEAKER_04: I think it was a quarterback.
- 55:39SPEAKER_04: I mean, they just don't get but like you say, I mean if he gets a triple crown and breaks all those records, you know what I'm saying, and they make the playoffs barely if they just sneak into the playoffs, yeah.
- 55:52SPEAKER_02: You gotta give it to you.
- 55:53SPEAKER_02: Y'all would have y'all would have been a bottom team if you didn't have this one guy.
- 55:57SPEAKER_02: So like so like at that point, like I mean he is he is your most valuable player because I mean like and you also gotta look at him being in the Super Bowl, I mean Super Bowl champs.
- 56:07SPEAKER_02: They're Super Bowl champs, and if they didn't have this one guy, you're telling me they would be at the bottom of the league this year?
- 56:13SPEAKER_02: Like they they genuinely might be one and six, two and or one and six or whatever two and five if it wasn't for this one guy.
- 56:22SPEAKER_02: So if they can't.
- 56:23SPEAKER_02: But their defense too, though.
- 56:24SPEAKER_02: Their defense is good.
- 56:25SPEAKER_04: It isn't good as last year, but they're they're still a top ten, top five defense.
- 56:30SPEAKER_04: Like, you're not gonna put up a bunch of points in Seattle unless they turn that ball over, like how their offense has been doing.
- 56:35SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's fair.
- 56:36SPEAKER_04: But what'd they do against Kansas City when they didn't turn the ball over?
- 56:39SPEAKER_04: Shut that shit down.
- 56:42SPEAKER_04: All aspects of the game were shut down by that Seattle defense.
- 56:46SPEAKER_04: Yeah, Kenneth Walker is coming in hot as the red-hot chili peppers.
- 56:51SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
- 56:52SPEAKER_04: Hot as fucking lava.
- 56:53SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
- 56:54SPEAKER_04: He's coming in the best running back in the league at this, not but just playing the best.
- 56:58SPEAKER_04: His numbers was he had the number one rushing yards, number one touch.
- 57:02SPEAKER_04: He was number one going coming into that.
- 57:03SPEAKER_04: He had over 100 every goddamn game, was going crazy.
- 57:07SPEAKER_04: And Seattle held his ass at 36 fucking rushing yards.
- 57:10SPEAKER_04: So, you know what I'm saying?
- 57:12SPEAKER_04: And like I said, Chicago wasn't able to run the ball at all.
- 57:15SPEAKER_04: This it was just mistakes.
- 57:16SPEAKER_04: I mean, and Caleb didn't go crazy with the throwing either.
- 57:19SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
- 57:20SPEAKER_04: It was the mistakes that put Chicago in good field possession, you know what I'm saying?
- 57:24SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
- 57:25SPEAKER_04: Like Seattle's defense played tremendous again, in my opinion.
- 57:28SPEAKER_04: The score doesn't say it.
- 57:29SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
- 57:30SPEAKER_04: Because they put up or gave up 30 points, but it's that fucking offense.
- 57:33SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 57:34SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
- 57:35SPEAKER_02: Bears' offense has been proven for sure.
- 57:37SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
- 57:39SPEAKER_02: Unfortunately, but but I will say I don't know.
- 57:42SPEAKER_04: I mean, my my only contest would be maybe, like you said, Burrow as well, because you know, as projected right now, he is on pace to have 5100 passing yards, 50 touchdowns, and 13 interceptions.
- 57:59SPEAKER_04: Um, with a completion ratio of 73%.
- 58:03SPEAKER_04: So, you know.
- 58:04SPEAKER_02: All I gotta say is So it just depends on if we make it for what happens.
- 58:08SPEAKER_02: All I gotta say, well, so first few games, right?
- 58:12SPEAKER_02: You got like, I mean, we'll so we'll sell the run defense.
- 58:14SPEAKER_02: You guys, I mean, I guess it's just the secondary that's kind of been getting pieced up for you guys a little bit.
- 58:19SPEAKER_02: Run defense been stout pretty much every game.
- 58:22SPEAKER_02: Run defense's been good.
- 58:23SPEAKER_02: It's just the second.
- 58:23SPEAKER_02: So I mean, a game like like the only thing that worries me about I mean, I I mean, I guess it's nothing against Joe, but the Bengals, though, I mean.
- 58:34SPEAKER_04: And this is the thing also I want to touch on this is the years pass.
- 58:40SPEAKER_04: Um, even though, yes, it was a close game with Tennessee, and we already talked about them playing close game, whatever, but the years passed, we would have lost this game two years a year ago or last year, we would have lost this game.
- 58:54SPEAKER_04: Right?
- 58:55SPEAKER_04: Even the year that we went 9-8, and Burrow and Jamar Chase had them crazy fucking numbers, we couldn't get any stops on the defense at all.
- 59:05SPEAKER_04: Like, at all.
- 59:06SPEAKER_04: We it was shootouts every single game.
- 59:08SPEAKER_04: Burrow played, you know what I'm saying?
- 59:09SPEAKER_04: The defense, we their defense is able to get a couple.
- 59:12SPEAKER_04: That's all we need is a couple stops.
- 59:14SPEAKER_04: Uh, we uh that's what I said.
- 59:16SPEAKER_04: That's I don't need the defense to be a top five defense.
- 59:19SPEAKER_04: Cincinnati needs them to be a middle around the middle of the pack defense, and that's what they are.
- 59:24SPEAKER_04: The run defense.
- 59:24SPEAKER_00: Kim Ward can go out there and light you up for damn near 300 yards.
- 59:29SPEAKER_04: That's that's fine.
- 59:30SPEAKER_04: That's fine.
- 59:30SPEAKER_04: I mean, yeah, that's true.
- 59:31SPEAKER_00: Kim Ward rarely puts up 150.
- 59:34SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's I mean hey, go out there and put up, I don't know.
- 59:37SPEAKER_04: That's true.
- 59:37SPEAKER_04: I mean, and hey, look, and and so does CJ Stroud put up a bump, but what was the final score?
- 59:43SPEAKER_04: And bend but don't break.
- 59:44SPEAKER_04: We don't we give up a lot of yards, but that we got a top five red zone defense in the league.
- 59:50SPEAKER_04: You can look it up.
- 59:50SPEAKER_04: Our red zone defense is stout.
- 59:52SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
- 59:53SPEAKER_04: So and that's what teams want to do is run the ball.
- 59:57SPEAKER_04: If you can't run the ball, that's fine.
- 59:59SPEAKER_04: I'd rather have us be tremendous in the pass game, but can't stop the run at all, rather than be able to stop the run and not be good to stop the pass.
- 1:00:08SPEAKER_04: I'd rather have that.
- 1:00:09SPEAKER_04: Because if a team can run the ball on you, you're cooked.
- 1:00:11SPEAKER_04: It don't fucking matter.
- 1:00:13SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's fair.
- 1:00:14SPEAKER_04: You can throw the ball all you want.
- 1:00:16SPEAKER_04: Eventually the defense is gonna get at least one tip, one third down, one inner.
- 1:00:20SPEAKER_04: But if you average in seven, eight, nine yards of carry, you can do what Tampa Bates just did last.
- 1:00:25SPEAKER_04: Just run the motherfucking ball.
- 1:00:27SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:00:28SPEAKER_02: Ran for zero goddamn yards.
- 1:00:30SPEAKER_02: I kind of saw it in the in the Minnesota Lions game a little bit as well.
- 1:00:33SPEAKER_02: Jameer was getting us out of some situations where the offense didn't really look like we were gonna get first downs or just yeah, I mean, I mean, yeah, I mean, just get first downs, stay on the field.
- 1:00:46SPEAKER_02: But kind of wearing that Minnesota defense down a little bit, and I mean it was it was mostly the run game for sure.
- 1:00:52SPEAKER_02: I mean, I think Jameer had like 125 or something.
- 1:00:56SPEAKER_02: So, I mean, and I mean, I I mean we talked about it a little bit earlier.
- 1:01:01SPEAKER_02: I mean, I don't well, I said I don't even think we did talk about the Lions game.
- 1:01:05SPEAKER_02: I don't even think we did talk about it at all.
- 1:01:06SPEAKER_02: But it's been like a minute, but this was because cause this was the first game that Minnesota actually really had to go up against a good offense.
- 1:01:17SPEAKER_02: A good like a I mean like a top five offense.
- 1:01:19SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:01:21SPEAKER_02: Because I mean they put the Packers the inconsistent and the Bears.
- 1:01:28SPEAKER_02: I mean they played they played, I think Caleb Williams got hurt like early fourth quarter or late third quarter or something that game.
- 1:01:35SPEAKER_02: But that defense wasn't winning the the deep the defense the defense was just giving it to him, and it was also horrible conditions, it was pretty pouring.
- 1:01:44SPEAKER_02: So um but I don't know, so I mean it's I mean they did the defense did look really good against Caleb Williams, which does say something.
- 1:01:53SPEAKER_02: I will I will give him that.
- 1:01:54SPEAKER_02: The fact that they have that win against Chicago is definitely good for them.
- 1:01:58SPEAKER_02: But um Chicago team, though.
- 1:02:01SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:02:02SPEAKER_02: Um week two.
- 1:02:06SPEAKER_02: And so I'd say that um no, this this last game that Lions won was definitely definitely a I mean I mean not even a I mean it was it was a big one to get started off with, but it was one that we needed for sure.
- 1:02:21SPEAKER_02: Um the Vikings were a little bit, I mean, they were kind of due for a loss.
- 1:02:27SPEAKER_02: I mean, they'd been pretty hot, um, looking a little bit worse these last few weeks, and then had to come up against a good offense and um one of the best running backs in the league, and I mean he's been he's been doing his thing all year.
- 1:02:41SPEAKER_04: And y'all got uh, I ain't gonna lie, um, you know, sometimes when uh a very significant injury happens to a player that uplifts and that just you know what I'm saying?
- 1:02:55SPEAKER_04: Like y'all's out there fighting for y'all y'all brother and shit.
- 1:02:58SPEAKER_04: Y'all so that that like that that fuels y'all as well.
- 1:03:01SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:03:02SPEAKER_04: That shit is real, that shit, you know what I'm saying.
- 1:03:04SPEAKER_04: That y'all they I don't think there's no way y'all's gonna lose that game after that happened.
- 1:03:09SPEAKER_04: You know, maybe if that didn't happen, could y'all probably still I'm not saying y'all wouldn't, I'm just I mean, but I know that added a lot, especially, you know, speculation and not knowing what's going on with him and how that just, you know, shit took fucking six commercial breaks.
- 1:03:23SPEAKER_02: No, yeah, literally, dude.
- 1:03:24SPEAKER_04: I was I was the game probably was gonna get close to getting called off.
- 1:03:28SPEAKER_04: You think about it, you know?
- 1:03:29SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because I mean I feel like in real time it probably took like an hour.
- 1:03:33SPEAKER_02: No, I no, I don't know.
- 1:03:34SPEAKER_02: Not an hour, probably like 30, 40 minutes.
- 1:03:36SPEAKER_02: No, I don't think it took well because like the TV time, like I mean, I was watching the game, like I think it only took like 15 minutes.
- 1:03:43SPEAKER_02: I think it took like maybe 15, 20, like I mean it taken like 20.
- 1:03:47SPEAKER_02: But like, I feel like it was like around like I mean, yeah, around like 15, 20 that TV time.
- 1:03:53SPEAKER_02: TV time tell me like little times you're sitting there in a stand.
- 1:03:56SPEAKER_04: That shit feel like 40.
- 1:03:57SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:04:00SPEAKER_02: I mean I mean realistically though, but no, the fact that he was just lying on the ground and it took them almost 20 minutes to just get him like get him on a stretcher was I mean it's scary.
- 1:04:13SPEAKER_02: But the updates were good though.
- 1:04:15SPEAKER_02: Um just came out today, so definitely um I mean uh just prayers for Jack, honestly.
- 1:04:23SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean I just honestly not even I mean not even for like football.
- 1:04:28SPEAKER_02: Like I just hope he I just hope he makes a good recovery and um for sure, for sure, and that for her and yeah, for his kids, family, and everything, definitely.
- 1:04:39SPEAKER_02: Um, but uh yeah, I mean going past that, I think the last uh segment that we want to try and wrap up, uh just AFC, yeah, just the AFC playoff picture um get.
- 1:04:53SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because I think we talked about the NFC a little bit earlier.
- 1:04:56SPEAKER_02: And um I mean AFC's not I mean teams that are in here are relatively expected for the most part.
- 1:05:05SPEAKER_02: Um always seem to be at the top through the first eight weeks.
- 1:05:16SPEAKER_02: A little bit higher than expected.
- 1:05:19SPEAKER_02: Number two.
- 1:05:20SPEAKER_02: Um Pittsburgh, a little bit higher than Don would like them.
- 1:05:25SPEAKER_02: Number three.
- 1:05:28SPEAKER_02: Uh Jacksonville, not bad.
- 1:05:31SPEAKER_02: Number four, KC.
- 1:05:35SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I guess these last two losses have dropped KC a little bit, haven't they?
- 1:05:39SPEAKER_02: Well it's just because uh goes by division leaders.
- 1:05:43SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's not record wise.
- 1:05:48SPEAKER_04: Um Pittsburgh is the same record.
- 1:05:51SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's both five years.
- 1:05:54SPEAKER_04: They got the same record as uh all these teams can't see each other.
- 1:05:59SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 1:06:00SPEAKER_04: Uh camera has a better revisional record.
- 1:06:18SPEAKER_02: No, because the big thing is I think they opened the camera to the Patriots.
- 1:06:27SPEAKER_04: I think they just have to want to get to the Patriots.
- 1:06:40SPEAKER_04: Just because their defense being good.
- 1:06:42SPEAKER_04: And then you look at their offense is pretty good.
- 1:06:47SPEAKER_04: And then also I'm gonna say, you know, New Elas has been disappointed this year.
- 1:06:51SPEAKER_04: But I mean they're can't count them off still.
- 1:06:56SPEAKER_04: You know, I mean they it's still only halfway through the season.
- 1:07:00SPEAKER_04: They have the tiebreaker over the Bills in Buffalo.
- 1:07:04SPEAKER_04: Um so if it comes to that, if they ever get if it gets to that point, which I mean it could because they only have what three losses Buffalo has won.
- 1:07:11SPEAKER_04: So we know Buffalo's not gonna finish the season 17 or 16 at one.
- 1:07:15SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 1:07:16SPEAKER_04: So you mean if it comes down to that and they sweep that division or sweep that series, that's gonna be big going.
- 1:07:21SPEAKER_04: I mean, if if it comes down to it as far as like tiebreaker wise, I can drop you know Buffalo to like fucking, you know, sixth or seventh seed.
- 1:07:29SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you know, that difference of having home field advantage.
- 1:07:32SPEAKER_04: So I wouldn't I wouldn't just give Buffalo uh that division quite yet.
- 1:07:39SPEAKER_04: Um just because you know Buffalo has shown that they've kind of not played as well towards the end of the season.
- 1:07:46SPEAKER_04: Um yeah, paying the Patriots, I said they're still working things out.
- 1:07:53SPEAKER_04: AJ Brown has been on and off the field.
- 1:07:57SPEAKER_04: Hunter Henry is hurt now.
- 1:07:59SPEAKER_04: Um the receiver court hasn't been quite, and they haven't been able to run the ball like they want as well.
- 1:08:04SPEAKER_04: Trayvon Henderson has been on and off the field.
- 1:08:07SPEAKER_04: Uh Christian Gonzalez has missed some time.
- 1:08:09SPEAKER_04: There's been players that have to put a defense to stay solid and the defense is good.
- 1:08:14SPEAKER_04: And that's the foundation that you know that you want to have to start off with, you know, defensive line or defense and offensive line.
- 1:08:21SPEAKER_04: You got those two things.
- 1:08:24SPEAKER_04: I mean that's you can you can have you know a not so good quarterback or a not so good running back, and it makes them look good.
- 1:08:31SPEAKER_04: So they have a good decent line and they have a good defense.
- 1:08:36SPEAKER_04: So the Patriots, I think, will be fine, even honestly.
- 1:08:41SPEAKER_04: Like I said, this is you know, this is a fucking eight nine decent.
- 1:08:48SPEAKER_04: So it can be a player or two traded to either one of you and me, some team, and that can just change their whole trajectory.
- 1:08:54SPEAKER_04: So Pittsburgh.
- 1:08:58SPEAKER_04: Uh like I said, they uh that's another one.
- 1:09:01SPEAKER_04: They have a good they know their line isn't typically really the best, but they can run the ball and they have a good defense.
- 1:09:08SPEAKER_04: Um so that's what makes it tough, you know, obviously being a Bengals fan.
- 1:09:12SPEAKER_04: Because of that reason, like I said, Aaron Rodgers, and I've been saying this all year, has not played, but he's played good as far as being his age, but the city was a good one.
- 1:09:20SPEAKER_04: He played pretty good against y'all.
- 1:09:22SPEAKER_04: He played he did, he did, but Jalen Warren ran for over a hundred.
- 1:09:25SPEAKER_04: You know, that was the only game that we've given up over a hundred all year on the ground was against Pittsburgh.
- 1:09:30SPEAKER_04: And he's played good.
- 1:09:32SPEAKER_04: He just had over a hundred again um this past against can't or against Cleveland.
- 1:09:37SPEAKER_04: Aaron Rodgers did not play good.
- 1:09:39SPEAKER_04: He looked at 15-27 for like 180.
- 1:09:43SPEAKER_04: But Jalen Warren ran the ball 13 carries for 134 yards.
- 1:09:47SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think uh inner defense is played good.
- 1:09:50SPEAKER_02: Rico Dado also got his first touchdown last week swell.
- 1:09:53SPEAKER_02: I think he had a decent one.
- 1:09:56SPEAKER_04: What happens if Aaron Rodgers can't finish the season?
- 1:10:00SPEAKER_04: He gets one one's major smack, he's out.
- 1:10:02SPEAKER_04: Who's the backup quarterback?
- 1:10:03SPEAKER_04: We don't even know.
- 1:10:04SPEAKER_04: He didn't get a smack.
- 1:10:05SPEAKER_04: I'm not saying I'm just saying this is the thing, is you gotta think about he's 42 years old.
- 1:10:10SPEAKER_02: He didn't get a major smack last year.
- 1:10:12SPEAKER_04: He didn't, he's straight.
- 1:10:13SPEAKER_04: He got yeah, he did get his clock clean the last year.
- 1:10:18SPEAKER_04: He got smacked, he got rough around a little bit.
- 1:10:20SPEAKER_04: He wasn't out, but that's what I'm saying.
- 1:10:21SPEAKER_04: You bank banking on him to miss is um you gotta factor in everything.
- 1:10:26SPEAKER_04: He's got they got the oldest quarterback in the game right now.
- 1:10:30SPEAKER_04: Put up another 17 games.
- 1:10:32SPEAKER_02: They probably got the smartest quarterback in the game right now.
- 1:10:35SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we do.
- 1:10:36SPEAKER_04: So I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
- 1:10:38SPEAKER_04: Aaron Rodgers got like eight interceptions, so I don't know.
- 1:10:43SPEAKER_04: Fuck out of here, right?
- 1:10:44SPEAKER_02: Dude, he's been in the league for he's been in the league for like 30 years.
- 1:10:48SPEAKER_04: I don't care about none of that.
- 1:10:50SPEAKER_04: Money got the third highest QB rating of all time and the best completion percentage of all time.
- 1:10:56SPEAKER_04: That screams out IQ.
- 1:11:00SPEAKER_04: Interceptions, you don't throw picks the AEF three this past week.
- 1:11:04SPEAKER_04: That's okay.
- 1:11:05SPEAKER_04: One of them won this fought a hat.
- 1:11:07SPEAKER_04: Aaron Rodgers' hat yeah.
- 1:11:08SPEAKER_02: And he had two against the Jags.
- 1:11:10SPEAKER_04: And other than that, that's that's it.
- 1:11:12SPEAKER_02: All the great five on the year.
- 1:11:14SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 1:11:14SPEAKER_04: Uh huh.
- 1:11:15SPEAKER_04: That's yeah.
- 1:11:16SPEAKER_04: And 20 touchdowns.
- 1:11:18SPEAKER_04: So I don't care what you're talking about.
- 1:11:20SPEAKER_04: What are we doing?
- 1:11:21SPEAKER_04: What are we talking about here, man?
- 1:11:23SPEAKER_04: I don't listen.
- 1:11:24SPEAKER_04: We're not yeah.
- 1:11:25SPEAKER_04: That's like you said, that's the best quarterback in the league right now.
- 1:11:28SPEAKER_04: And I don't care what anybody says.
- 1:11:30SPEAKER_04: He's playing the best.
- 1:11:31SPEAKER_04: Who's playing better than him?
- 1:11:33SPEAKER_04: You can't tell me who.
- 1:11:34SPEAKER_04: There is no one.
- 1:11:36SPEAKER_04: He is the best quarterback.
- 1:11:37SPEAKER_04: I've been saying this all fucking year.
- 1:11:39SPEAKER_04: I've been saying it.
- 1:11:40SPEAKER_04: I've been saying it.
- 1:11:40SPEAKER_04: I've been fucking saying it.
- 1:11:43SPEAKER_04: Himothy.
- 1:11:44SPEAKER_04: That is Joe.
- 1:11:45SPEAKER_04: That is Joe Burrow.
- 1:11:46SPEAKER_04: Put respect on that nigga's name, man.
- 1:11:48SPEAKER_04: We'll see what you're doing.
- 1:11:49SPEAKER_04: You understand what I'm saying?
- 1:11:50SPEAKER_04: And none of these niggas you name ever been to a Super Bowl.
- 1:11:53SPEAKER_04: Ain't been there.
- 1:11:53SPEAKER_04: I know.
- 1:11:54SPEAKER_02: Josh Allen got to say.
- 1:11:55SPEAKER_04: Well, yeah, exactly.
- 1:11:56SPEAKER_04: Last time we met them niggas, we beat them and popped them by 20 or by 15.
- 1:12:01SPEAKER_04: So I don't care about what you in their home field, nigga.
- 1:12:04SPEAKER_04: Niggas that bought tickets the week before.
- 1:12:08SPEAKER_04: Thinking they was gonna beat us.
- 1:12:11SPEAKER_04: We came in there and mopped the floor at them niggas, man.
- 1:12:14SPEAKER_04: Joe slung that bitch all over the field.
- 1:12:17SPEAKER_04: So I don't care about what you talking about.
- 1:12:20SPEAKER_04: We not worried about that nigga Josh Holland in the playoffs.
- 1:12:23SPEAKER_04: We're gonna turn that bitch over.
- 1:12:24SPEAKER_04: Joe is not.
- 1:12:26SPEAKER_04: Who you trust more?
- 1:12:27SPEAKER_04: Joe or Josh in the playoffs.
- 1:12:30SPEAKER_01: Joe.
- 1:12:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I agree.
- 1:12:32SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna lie.
- 1:12:34SPEAKER_04: Joe.
- 1:12:36SPEAKER_04: He might have 300 yards, but he's gonna have a fumble and a couple picks, too.
- 1:12:41SPEAKER_04: Consistently.
- 1:12:43SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so yeah.
- 1:12:44SPEAKER_04: But anyways, can't name me another time, Joe.
- 1:12:48SPEAKER_04: Like I said, he's he's just feasting on the three picks.
- 1:12:51SPEAKER_04: You know, he's just feasting on that.
- 1:12:53SPEAKER_04: Forget everything else.
- 1:12:54SPEAKER_04: But and yeah, two picks against the Jags.
- 1:12:57SPEAKER_04: That was you know, good defense.
- 1:12:59SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:13:02SPEAKER_02: No, yeah.
- 1:13:02SPEAKER_02: They are.
- 1:13:03SPEAKER_04: It was 17 to 22.
- 1:13:04SPEAKER_04: And we lost Jamar Chase and T.
- 1:13:06SPEAKER_04: Higgins in that game.
- 1:13:07SPEAKER_04: Both of those both of them.
- 1:13:09SPEAKER_02: Bro, I don't think either of those touchdowns were, or one of them might have been the second half, but I feel like one of them was in the first half.
- 1:13:16SPEAKER_02: Both of them are so healthy.
- 1:13:17SPEAKER_02: Or when both of them are so that's fine.
- 1:13:19SPEAKER_02: But does but doesn't that was September?
- 1:13:22SPEAKER_04: What did I tell you about Joe in September?
- 1:13:24SPEAKER_04: Okay, but then what did I tell you about what Joe does in September versus October, November, December?
- 1:13:28SPEAKER_04: All right, my bad, November.
- 1:13:30SPEAKER_04: What is he what did I say?
- 1:13:31SPEAKER_04: I said he starts off slow and cold.
- 1:13:33SPEAKER_04: He just threw three picks, but he just, no, he won the game on his on his list.
- 1:13:39SPEAKER_04: He won the game.
- 1:13:41SPEAKER_04: Drive game winning drive on her own 15, nigga.
- 1:13:44SPEAKER_04: Joe Burrow did that.
- 1:13:46SPEAKER_04: Stop it.
- 1:13:48SPEAKER_04: Man was dicing him up, man.
- 1:13:49SPEAKER_04: Come on.
- 1:13:50SPEAKER_04: He went 38 and 48 for 460.
- 1:13:52SPEAKER_04: You know what that completion rate is?
- 1:13:54SPEAKER_04: Come on, man.
- 1:13:56SPEAKER_04: That's okay.
- 1:13:56SPEAKER_04: You have two, that's fine.
- 1:13:58SPEAKER_04: That's okay.
- 1:13:59SPEAKER_04: You know what it is?
- 1:14:00SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:14:01SPEAKER_04: Hey, Jerry Gofflin did the same.
- 1:14:02SPEAKER_04: He had three picks against the commanders in the playoff game.
- 1:14:05SPEAKER_04: Joe Burrow would never do that.
- 1:14:08SPEAKER_04: Never.
- 1:14:09SPEAKER_04: Ever.
- 1:14:09SPEAKER_04: I promise you that.
- 1:14:12SPEAKER_04: Oh, not all picks is Joe Burrow's fault.
- 1:14:16SPEAKER_04: Oh, hey, not withn't a playoffs.
- 1:14:18SPEAKER_04: I said playoffs.
- 1:14:20SPEAKER_02: Playoffs.
- 1:14:21SPEAKER_02: Come on, man.
- 1:14:22SPEAKER_04: Playoffs.
- 1:14:23SPEAKER_04: You talking about you a regular season guy.
- 1:14:25SPEAKER_04: You talking about regular season.
- 1:14:26SPEAKER_04: I'm talking about the playoffs and what management.
- 1:14:31SPEAKER_04: He's just not that type of guy you want to throw on the ball 52 times.
- 1:14:35SPEAKER_04: Joe Burrow is that guy you want to throw on the ball 52 times.
- 1:14:39SPEAKER_04: Golf is not.
- 1:14:40SPEAKER_04: You want to be able to have what y'all got now with.
- 1:14:46SPEAKER_00: Look at the likes of Burrow stepping back 52 times.
- 1:14:49SPEAKER_00: That line has been rough.
- 1:14:50SPEAKER_00: You know how many times he got sacked this year?
- 1:14:52SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
- 1:14:53SPEAKER_04: The third least out of every quarterback in the league.
- 1:14:55SPEAKER_04: He ain't been touched.
- 1:14:56SPEAKER_04: That line is goaded, nigga.
- 1:14:58SPEAKER_04: That line has been phenomenal.
- 1:15:00SPEAKER_04: We got arguably one of the best right tackles in the league, and niggas ain't talking about him a merryest Americas Mims.
- 1:15:08SPEAKER_04: It's giving up no sacks this year at all.
- 1:15:11SPEAKER_04: He shuts niggas down.
- 1:15:13SPEAKER_04: I'm telling you.
- 1:15:15SPEAKER_04: That line has been a revelation, and we've seen what's happening.
- 1:15:17SPEAKER_04: When Joe Burrow isn't getting sacked again in touch, what is he doing?
- 1:15:20SPEAKER_04: Carving niggas up.
- 1:15:22SPEAKER_04: Carving them up.
- 1:15:24SPEAKER_04: That's all it is.
- 1:15:25SPEAKER_04: What'd he do to Baltimore?
- 1:15:26SPEAKER_04: It's a good defense.
- 1:15:27SPEAKER_04: Well, we thought was a good defense.
- 1:15:28SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
- 1:15:30SPEAKER_04: Carved him up.
- 1:15:31SPEAKER_02: Yes, sir.
- 1:15:31SPEAKER_04: So hey, like I said, man.
- 1:15:33SPEAKER_02: We'll see.
- 1:15:33SPEAKER_02: We'll see if he can see if he can keep it going, man.
- 1:15:36SPEAKER_04: He will.
- 1:15:37SPEAKER_04: It's Joe Burrow.
- 1:15:38SPEAKER_04: Why wouldn't he keep it going, bro?
- 1:15:39SPEAKER_04: Get that nigga Jameer Gibbs.
- 1:15:41SPEAKER_04: We'll trade.
- 1:15:43SPEAKER_04: I'll trade Joe's your offense for my out.
- 1:15:45SPEAKER_04: You can have Chase and Higgins.
- 1:15:47SPEAKER_04: We'll take St.
- 1:15:48SPEAKER_04: Brown and J-mo and get.
- 1:15:50SPEAKER_04: We'll trade that.
- 1:15:51SPEAKER_04: Imagine what Joe Burrow would do with that.
- 1:15:53SPEAKER_04: With Gibbs back there.
- 1:15:54SPEAKER_01: You didn't have a running back then.
- 1:15:55SPEAKER_04: That's my point.
- 1:15:56SPEAKER_04: So you talking that yip yep.
- 1:15:58SPEAKER_04: I'm just saying, bro.
- 1:15:59SPEAKER_04: Get trade my nigga and trade that right there.
- 1:16:02SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
- 1:16:03SPEAKER_04: You want to talk that shit about golf and Joe Burrow?
- 1:16:05SPEAKER_04: Give that nigga Jameer Gibbs.
- 1:16:08SPEAKER_04: My God.
- 1:16:08SPEAKER_04: Like I said, Gimble Jonathan Taylor.
- 1:16:16SPEAKER_00: What is Joe Burrow?
- 1:16:18SPEAKER_00: There you go.
- 1:16:20SPEAKER_00: He's not.
- 1:16:21SPEAKER_04: Is he like Gibbs?
- 1:16:22SPEAKER_04: Is he close to Gibbs?
- 1:16:24SPEAKER_04: Is he a top five, top 10, top 15?
- 1:16:27SPEAKER_00: He might be top 15.
- 1:16:29SPEAKER_00: Cut it down.
- 1:16:30SPEAKER_00: Come on, man.
- 1:16:30SPEAKER_00: He might be top 15.
- 1:16:31SPEAKER_00: He's on the fringe.
- 1:16:32SPEAKER_00: He's on the fringe of top 15.
- 1:16:34SPEAKER_04: Where'd you put where'd you put J-Mo?
- 1:16:36SPEAKER_04: Top 15 receiver in the league.
- 1:16:37SPEAKER_04: Where'd you put St.
- 1:16:38SPEAKER_04: Mow?
- 1:16:38SPEAKER_04: I don't know if I put crazy as hell.
- 1:16:40SPEAKER_00: He's on the fringe as well.
- 1:16:41SPEAKER_00: He's gonna get the ball eat crazy.
- 1:16:43SPEAKER_04: He's put a lot of good receivers.
- 1:16:44SPEAKER_04: He goes through St.
- 1:16:44SPEAKER_04: Brown.
- 1:16:45SPEAKER_04: They go through St.
- 1:16:45SPEAKER_04: Brown.
- 1:16:46SPEAKER_04: If he was at somewhere else by itself, J Mo be going crazy.
- 1:16:49SPEAKER_02: There is a lot of good receivers in the league.
- 1:16:51SPEAKER_02: There is, to be fair.
- 1:16:52SPEAKER_02: He's got a good receiving court.
- 1:16:53SPEAKER_02: He's probably on the fringe, bro.
- 1:16:55SPEAKER_04: And y'all got Laporta.
- 1:16:56SPEAKER_04: Y'all got a good offense.
- 1:16:58SPEAKER_04: Yes, sir.
- 1:16:58SPEAKER_00: Laporte is not a good thing.
- 1:17:00SPEAKER_04: The benefit of having one of the best minds the last few years.
- 1:17:03SPEAKER_04: Joe Burrow ain't never had that.
- 1:17:06SPEAKER_04: Except for this year.
- 1:17:08SPEAKER_04: And what is happening?
- 1:17:09SPEAKER_04: He's getting off, and what is our record?
- 1:17:11SPEAKER_04: Five and two.
- 1:17:12SPEAKER_04: Case closed, bro.
- 1:17:14SPEAKER_04: That's all I've got to say.
- 1:17:16SPEAKER_04: That's all I've got to say.
- 1:17:17SPEAKER_04: Five and two, and he's playing like MVP.
- 1:17:20SPEAKER_04: Like I said he was gonna do.
- 1:17:22SPEAKER_04: He stayed healthy upright because his line is good.
- 1:17:25SPEAKER_04: You know?
- 1:17:26SPEAKER_02: I will say golf has damn near the same status.
- 1:17:29SPEAKER_02: He is.
- 1:17:30SPEAKER_02: And we also are five and two, so that is true.
- 1:17:36SPEAKER_02: I didn't say that.
- 1:17:37SPEAKER_04: I said golf is playing good.
- 1:17:38SPEAKER_04: I told you that.
- 1:17:39SPEAKER_04: And he also has he does have four less picks.
- 1:17:42SPEAKER_04: He does.
- 1:17:43SPEAKER_04: So he doesn't throw the ball as much as Joe does.
- 1:17:46SPEAKER_04: That's right.
- 1:17:47SPEAKER_04: He runs that he's got Jameer Gibbs.
- 1:17:49SPEAKER_04: Smart.
- 1:17:50SPEAKER_04: No, we just have Jameer Gibbs.
- 1:17:52SPEAKER_04: It's not better than what's smart, it's just Jameer Gibbs.
- 1:17:56SPEAKER_04: You have uh the best running back y'all has since Barry Sanders.
- 1:17:59SPEAKER_04: So that's when you utter that name, those two in the same conversation.
- 1:18:04SPEAKER_04: That tells you.
- 1:18:05SPEAKER_02: Chase Brown is solid.
- 1:18:07SPEAKER_02: He fumbles the ball a lot.
- 1:18:08SPEAKER_02: Does he?
- 1:18:10SPEAKER_04: You don't be fine.
- 1:18:10SPEAKER_04: No, he's not brought up.
- 1:18:12SPEAKER_04: We wouldn't be in trade talk if Chase Brown was solid.
- 1:18:17SPEAKER_04: We wouldn't be talking, we've never talked about trade Joe Mixon.
- 1:18:21SPEAKER_04: Give us Joe when we had Joe Mixon, what happened?
- 1:18:24SPEAKER_04: AFC championship game, Super Bowl.
- 1:18:27SPEAKER_04: Not Super Bowl win, but you mean that's when we had Joe Mixon.
- 1:18:30SPEAKER_04: That was he was a top running or top 10.
- 1:18:36SPEAKER_04: We need Jonathan Taylor.
- 1:18:37SPEAKER_04: We get Taylor to UFC the dividends.
- 1:18:39SPEAKER_04: Then I'll be like, now we're equal.
- 1:18:41SPEAKER_04: Give us Jonathan Taylor.
- 1:18:44SPEAKER_04: But shit.
- 1:18:45SPEAKER_04: That will put an end to, I mean.
- 1:18:48SPEAKER_02: So I don't know.
- 1:18:49SPEAKER_02: Or we I think we were so reporting.
- 1:18:51SPEAKER_02: I don't know what.
- 1:18:52SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:18:54SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 1:18:55SPEAKER_04: I mean we covered everything except for the college playoff rankings.
- 1:19:06SPEAKER_02: We can fucking roll these last few minutes of college football playoffs if you want to.
- 1:19:11SPEAKER_02: I guess just talk about the rankings.
- 1:19:16SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, I mean, well, because I was just I was watching the rankings or I was watching the selection show like a little bit, but I didn't realize that it was even going on last night.
- 1:19:29SPEAKER_02: So I really wasn't that tuned into it.
- 1:19:31SPEAKER_02: But um the the big thing that I saw that I was pretty happy about was uh Ohio State left out now week seven, week eight.
- 1:19:42SPEAKER_02: Hey, that's alright though, man.
- 1:19:44SPEAKER_04: Happyest thing I've seen.
- 1:19:45SPEAKER_04: That's all right.
- 1:19:45SPEAKER_04: We already knew Michigan's still not ranked.
- 1:19:48SPEAKER_02: Nope.
- 1:19:48SPEAKER_02: Uh so we say no.
- 1:19:52SPEAKER_02: We uh we're having a down year this year.
- 1:19:55SPEAKER_02: Hey.
- 1:19:57SPEAKER_04: And this is considered a down year for us, right?
- 1:19:59SPEAKER_04: When we are not in the playoff ranking and we ranked 12th in the country with only two losses.
- 1:20:05SPEAKER_04: This is a down year, bro.
- 1:20:07SPEAKER_00: You got the best quarterback in the country.
- 1:20:09SPEAKER_00: He's gone.
- 1:20:10SPEAKER_00: He's hurt.
- 1:20:10SPEAKER_00: Or no, no, I've met the best receiver.
- 1:20:13SPEAKER_04: This nigga Luke Faye.
- 1:20:16SPEAKER_00: That nigga didn't mean the best quarterback.
- 1:20:17SPEAKER_00: We watched a USB game.
- 1:20:19SPEAKER_00: We watched a USD game.
- 1:20:21SPEAKER_04: That nigga Luke Faye is garbage.
- 1:20:24SPEAKER_04: Hot garbage.
- 1:20:25SPEAKER_04: Stole his ass away.
- 1:20:27SPEAKER_04: He was.
- 1:20:28SPEAKER_04: This nigga's missing niggas.
- 1:20:29SPEAKER_04: Remember the buttons.
- 1:20:31SPEAKER_04: He's doing Jeremiah Smith.
- 1:20:32SPEAKER_04: The other nigga was wide open.
- 1:20:34SPEAKER_04: We looked at the touchdown.
- 1:20:36SPEAKER_00: Bro, he still made the first down.
- 1:20:39SPEAKER_00: He done got a first down off that foot.
- 1:20:41SPEAKER_04: So we already lost by 13 points.
- 1:20:43SPEAKER_04: That touchdown, what do you mean?
- 1:20:45SPEAKER_04: That's big.
- 1:20:46SPEAKER_04: Julius Stan would have made that throw.
- 1:20:50SPEAKER_04: I can't say he would have.
- 1:20:51SPEAKER_04: Bro, look at his numbers, bro.
- 1:20:52SPEAKER_04: What has Julius Stan did this year?
- 1:20:54SPEAKER_04: What are we talking about here, bro?
- 1:20:56SPEAKER_04: He's in the highest been talks before.
- 1:20:58SPEAKER_04: Like, bro, why do you why is it that you constantly disrespect this nigga, bro?
- 1:21:04SPEAKER_04: I'm saying that you're not understanding.
- 1:21:07SPEAKER_00: Let me read off his numbers for you, bro.
- 1:21:10SPEAKER_04: Let me read off his numbers since that's the case, bro.
- 1:21:13SPEAKER_04: This shit crazy as hell.
- 1:21:14SPEAKER_04: Like, missing this nigga is not you know what I'm saying?
- 1:21:18SPEAKER_04: It's trash, bro.
- 1:21:20SPEAKER_04: 19 touchdowns, four interceptions, 2,000 passing yards, QBR rating 86, completion, completion uh 68%, eighth in the country.
- 1:21:33SPEAKER_04: And you mean to tell me not missing this nigga would have changed that goddamn result in that game, that he wouldn't have made the throws that he didn't even make.
- 1:21:40SPEAKER_00: You guys did lose by 13.
- 1:21:42SPEAKER_00: So that one.
- 1:21:44SPEAKER_04: Julian Sand would have it don't matter.
- 1:21:45SPEAKER_04: Julius Sand would have played better than losing.
- 1:21:48SPEAKER_04: Would have lost.
- 1:21:49SPEAKER_00: If he made that one touchdown.
- 1:21:50SPEAKER_00: That's not that's not what?
- 1:21:52SPEAKER_00: If it was three, bro, I mean you got good enough.
- 1:21:57SPEAKER_00: If we scored, you got three drive.
- 1:21:58SPEAKER_00: We lost by drive anyway.
- 1:22:00SPEAKER_04: No, we didn't.
- 1:22:02SPEAKER_04: We missed the field goal.
- 1:22:03SPEAKER_02: No, you missed the field goal.
- 1:22:05SPEAKER_04: That's what I'm saying.
- 1:22:06SPEAKER_04: That been a touchdown.
- 1:22:08SPEAKER_04: What are we talking about here, man?
- 1:22:10SPEAKER_02: We would have lost by six.
- 1:22:12SPEAKER_04: Bro, we wouldn't, we he would have made plays, bro.
- 1:22:15SPEAKER_04: What are we talking about?
- 1:22:16SPEAKER_04: I'm just what like what the hell are we talking about here?
- 1:22:20SPEAKER_00: He would have made different plays.
- 1:22:22SPEAKER_04: Because of our game scheme, because of not having the number one quarterback in, nigga.
- 1:22:27SPEAKER_04: What are we talking, bro?
- 1:22:28SPEAKER_04: What part are you missing?
- 1:22:32SPEAKER_04: Let me pull up this nigga numbers.
- 1:22:33SPEAKER_02: USC was locking up.
- 1:22:34SPEAKER_04: Let me pull up this nigga numbers for that game, man.
- 1:22:37SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:22:38SPEAKER_04: 21 of 38.
- 1:22:40SPEAKER_04: That wouldn't have happened for Julius saying number one.
- 1:22:42SPEAKER_04: Let's start off with that.
- 1:22:44SPEAKER_04: That's almost 50%.
- 1:22:46SPEAKER_04: Come on, bro.
- 1:22:47SPEAKER_04: Two six.
- 1:22:47SPEAKER_00: He completed 21 passes.
- 1:22:50SPEAKER_00: 38 attempts.
- 1:22:52SPEAKER_04: That's not good.
- 1:22:56SPEAKER_00: What are we talking about, bro?
- 1:22:59SPEAKER_00: Hey, bro.
- 1:23:00SPEAKER_00: It's his first game in college football, bro.
- 1:23:03SPEAKER_00: He completed 21, bro.
- 1:23:05SPEAKER_00: That's still pretty good.
- 1:23:06SPEAKER_04: Not against an unranked team.
- 1:23:08SPEAKER_04: It's not.
- 1:23:09SPEAKER_02: Man, USC though, bro.
- 1:23:11SPEAKER_02: I mean, preseason they were ranked like top 15.
- 1:23:15SPEAKER_02: So they they definitely, I mean, I guess it's not their.
- 1:23:17SPEAKER_02: I mean, bro, they still have a top, uh, I'd still stay like a top 10 offense.
- 1:23:24SPEAKER_02: Maybe top 15, but no, I mean USC still has a good offense.
- 1:23:28SPEAKER_02: Their defenses look a little bit shaky, which is what he was going up against.
- 1:23:32SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, I don't know.
- 1:23:35SPEAKER_04: No, it'll be up by eight.
- 1:23:38SPEAKER_04: Jojo and them going.
- 1:23:40SPEAKER_04: I think a Jalen Brown getting off.
- 1:23:43SPEAKER_02: 12 already.
- 1:23:43SPEAKER_04: Is that B plan?
- 1:23:45SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 1:23:50SPEAKER_02: Paul Reed or so.
- 1:23:52SPEAKER_02: Yes, Paul Reed.
- 1:23:54SPEAKER_02: If we beat them tonight with no Dern and their 14.
- 1:23:57SPEAKER_03: We'll see.
- 1:23:58SPEAKER_00: That's uh yeah.
- 1:23:59SPEAKER_02: Alright.
- 1:24:01SPEAKER_02: Alright.
- 1:24:03SPEAKER_04: We'll see, man.
- 1:24:05SPEAKER_02: Yes, sir.
- 1:24:06SPEAKER_02: Alright, but I mean I think that I mean I mean, I guess we'll talk about the ranking.
- 1:24:12SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 1:24:13SPEAKER_02: We got wrapped up.
- 1:24:14SPEAKER_02: Well, we got wrapped up a little bit on the line.
- 1:24:19SPEAKER_02: Uh so Miami number one.
- 1:24:22SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, I guess I mean what eight and yeah.
- 1:24:26SPEAKER_02: They're yeah, they're the number one, because Georgia's seven and one.
- 1:24:31SPEAKER_02: Who's their loss to?
- 1:24:33SPEAKER_02: Is it Georgia lost?
- 1:24:36SPEAKER_02: So um, you think Georgia's val valid two?
- 1:24:40SPEAKER_02: Miami's valid one.
- 1:24:42SPEAKER_02: Georgia's valid two.
- 1:24:44SPEAKER_02: Utah, number three.
- 1:24:45SPEAKER_02: I mean, I guess they're gonna be able to do that.
- 1:24:52SPEAKER_04: You can play anybody.
- 1:24:53SPEAKER_02: IU at four.
- 1:24:55SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:24:56SPEAKER_02: Pretty valid.
- 1:24:57SPEAKER_04: They haven't looked good all year, but I mean I mean they've been playing on they've been pulling all close games.
- 1:25:03SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:25:03SPEAKER_04: Um Alabama six and two.
- 1:25:12SPEAKER_02: I mean, even even like Notre Dame, oh god, I mean, yeah, there are definitely some teams that could be.
- 1:25:17SPEAKER_04: Kentucky, I guess, is surprised and not a not surprising at UCLA.
- 1:25:22SPEAKER_02: The fact they're seven and one is that's what I'm saying.
- 1:25:24SPEAKER_04: Like they played good this year.
- 1:25:27SPEAKER_02: Um and they were up on Alabama at halftime, but they got blown out in the second half.
- 1:25:32SPEAKER_02: So I mean, even the fact they played Alabama good for I mean, even a little bit, it's kind of unfortunate just unfortunate they got blown out in the second half, but um the fact that that's their only loss is definitely solid for them.
- 1:25:47SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, they're the only team in the SEC with one loss, I think we're like in the top.
- 1:25:54SPEAKER_02: So yeah, they can still be in it even for SEC Championship if they keep going this way.
- 1:26:00SPEAKER_02: But then Texas below them at six or at seven, and Texas look a little bit shaky with cards.
- 1:26:11SPEAKER_02: I mean probably and and probably ended up looking like he's gonna play at least one more year there.
- 1:26:18SPEAKER_02: I mean he's just not looking amazing this year.
- 1:26:20SPEAKER_02: He just doesn't look like he's ready to go to the NFL.
- 1:26:24SPEAKER_02: I mean I mean if you look at his games, bro, he's just I don't know.
- 1:26:30SPEAKER_02: I mean maybe he maybe he'll go, but I feel like I mean more because like Texas is so good, right?
- 1:26:37SPEAKER_02: Like he might as well ride out Texas as long as he can.
- 1:26:42SPEAKER_02: But then after that, another big story, UCLA is the other undefeated team.
- 1:26:48SPEAKER_02: Um at number eight.
- 1:26:50SPEAKER_03: They haven't really played anybody, yeah.
- 1:26:52SPEAKER_03: They just yeah.
- 1:26:54SPEAKER_02: I mean, well, I mean, I mean, like, um the just the fact that they're in the Big Ten and they're undefeated against all their Big Ten players so far is I mean, it's I mean it's impressive.
- 1:27:03SPEAKER_02: I mean they beat Oregon.
- 1:27:05SPEAKER_02: So Oregon beat Oregon.
- 1:27:08SPEAKER_04: I mean they're ranked now, but Oregon does not look good this year, bro.
- 1:27:12SPEAKER_02: I mean they wiped it.
- 1:27:13SPEAKER_04: Maryland, Purdue, San Diego State.
- 1:27:16SPEAKER_04: What are we talking about?
- 1:27:17SPEAKER_04: 254 Wisconsin, Michigan State.
- 1:27:22SPEAKER_04: They ain't played nobody.
- 1:27:24SPEAKER_02: Minnesota, Illinois.
- 1:27:26SPEAKER_04: They haven't played not one ranked team this year, bro.
- 1:27:28SPEAKER_04: Not one ranked team.
- 1:27:31SPEAKER_02: Well, last week.
- 1:27:33SPEAKER_04: Who do they play with this?
- 1:27:34SPEAKER_04: Who do this remaining scale, though?
- 1:27:36SPEAKER_02: Minnesota, Illinois, and Michigan and UCLA.
- 1:27:39SPEAKER_04: So UC So Michigan and UCLA is gonna be their toughest challenge.
- 1:27:43SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:27:44SPEAKER_04: Last two weeks.
- 1:27:45SPEAKER_04: Minnesota might be they might lose a minute.
- 1:27:48SPEAKER_04: Minnesota has not been bad this year.
- 1:27:50SPEAKER_04: That's gonna be a that that to me upset alert.
- 1:27:52SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:27:53SPEAKER_04: Um, if I'm UCLA.
- 1:27:55SPEAKER_04: Uh, you know, if they go and blow out Minnesota, then I'm like, okay, maybe a Bit of a believer.
- 1:28:02SPEAKER_04: But Minnesota has played some good games this year.
- 1:28:06SPEAKER_04: Beat Michigan, had some good wins.
- 1:28:09SPEAKER_04: So I think Minnesota, I mean, that'll be a kind of a test for them.
- 1:28:14SPEAKER_04: Like I said, Oregon was has been kind of the stinker of the year.
- 1:28:20SPEAKER_04: Preseason AP ranked number two.
- 1:28:22SPEAKER_04: Now they're ranked number 23, but I mean they were just three to three at one time.
- 1:28:27SPEAKER_02: I mean, having Dante Moore.
- 1:28:29SPEAKER_02: Even before that, they didn't look at it.
- 1:28:31SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and that concussion was bad.
- 1:28:33SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:28:34SPEAKER_04: He still ain't played.
- 1:28:36SPEAKER_02: That was like three or four weeks ago.
- 1:28:40SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, I mean that I mean yeah, that play was that play was tough.
- 1:28:44SPEAKER_02: That play was really tough, but um, just kind of going yeah, just going under that.
- 1:28:49SPEAKER_02: And we got BYU at nine, seven and one.
- 1:28:54SPEAKER_02: I think the first Big 12 team.
- 1:29:03SPEAKER_02: Last one is the last one.
- 1:29:06SPEAKER_02: I mean, this is I mean I guess this is showing the matchups, but my phone also doesn't load.
- 1:29:14SPEAKER_04: So we ran the last one.
- 1:29:22SPEAKER_04: Boise State Where are they at?
- 1:29:25SPEAKER_04: They're down probably down at 25.
- 1:29:28SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they're ranked 12.
- 1:29:29SPEAKER_04: Oh, that's what I'm saying.
- 1:29:30SPEAKER_04: So the rankings is different for the playoff ranking.
- 1:29:34SPEAKER_04: Let me see.
- 1:29:34SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
- 1:29:36SPEAKER_04: Right here.
- 1:29:36SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
- 1:29:37SPEAKER_04: So Miami's number one, Georgia's number two, three is Utah, four Indiana.
- 1:29:46SPEAKER_02: Okay, so it'd be Boise out, Batmore, they play one, be white.
- 1:29:52SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay.
- 1:29:55SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I think the only one different on that is Boise State is the 12th of Ohio State.
- 1:30:00SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's the only difference.
- 1:30:03SPEAKER_02: But um Yeah, so I mean just those last few.
- 1:30:08SPEAKER_02: Um before I could close it out.
- 1:30:11SPEAKER_02: But I think it was like Notre Dame was one of the last ones.
- 1:30:14SPEAKER_02: And who did Notre Dame lose?
- 1:30:15SPEAKER_02: Or they lost to BYU.
- 1:30:16SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:30:17SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I mean, yeah, that's valid.
- 1:30:20SPEAKER_02: They're down there.
- 1:30:21SPEAKER_04: I mean, because they don't got a test this week against uh Miami.
- 1:30:26SPEAKER_04: So Yeah.
- 1:30:27SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:30:27SPEAKER_02: I mean they gotta win.
- 1:30:28SPEAKER_02: I mean, if they don't win that one, they're not making the playoffs.
- 1:30:31SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, yeah.
- 1:30:32SPEAKER_02: So miss at number 10.
- 1:30:36SPEAKER_04: Um I think they beat they would beat Texas.
- 1:30:41SPEAKER_04: Uh that's who they're mashed up right now.
- 1:30:43SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:30:45SPEAKER_04: A little bit better team.
- 1:30:47SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:30:47SPEAKER_04: I'd probably take Old Miss over Texas, yeah.
- 1:30:50SPEAKER_04: Uh and then yeah, Bama and Boise State, Boise State.
- 1:30:54SPEAKER_04: They'll play anybody, so they'll probably make it you know automatic beat as far as like you know, I think how that shit goes.
- 1:31:03SPEAKER_04: But yeah.
- 1:31:05SPEAKER_04: I think that wraps it up.
- 1:31:08SPEAKER_04: So yeah, number one, Miami, two, Georgia, three, Utah, four, Indiana, five, Alabama, six, Kentucky, Texas, UCLA, BYU, Less, Notre Dame, Boys Estate.
- 1:31:24SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:31:26SPEAKER_02: It's not bad.
- 1:31:27SPEAKER_02: No, we'll see.
- 1:31:28SPEAKER_02: It'll definitely definitely be a good second after the college season for sure.
- 1:31:31SPEAKER_02: Yes, sir.
- 1:31:32SPEAKER_02: See what's top team, see if any of them have any have any upset L's.
- 1:31:38SPEAKER_02: But uh, yeah.
- 1:31:41SPEAKER_04: I think it wraps it up for today.
- 1:31:46SPEAKER_04: So we'll be you know, keep an update or keeping tabs on that every week to see who's in or who's out.
- 1:31:54SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:31:55SPEAKER_02: We'll try to lock, we'll try to bring in some MBA a little bit here soon as well.
- 1:32:00SPEAKER_02: Maybe like next few weeks, try and talk about first like wrap up the first month, month and a half or two.
- 1:32:09SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, just talk about who's been get who's been getting off because we definitely have a lot of a lot of MBA, a lot of MBA talk that we wanna get in as well, but limited amount of time.
- 1:32:22SPEAKER_02: So for now, thank you.