Latest / Best of the NFL Podcast Network / Week 7 Picks with Cynthia Frelund
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- 0:08Speaker 1: Welcome to another NFL Daily where we missed the hell
- 0:12Speaker 1: out of Cynthia Freeland.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Last week.
- 0:14Speaker 3: We missed you.
- 0:15Speaker 1: We needed her me, we got her in the studio. Yes,
- 0:19Speaker 1: I'm back in the Chris Wesley podcast studio with my
- 0:22Speaker 1: friend Cynthia Freeland.
- 0:24Speaker 2: We missed you.
- 0:24Speaker 1: Yeah, was in London last week. Neil Reynolds stepped in
- 0:28Speaker 1: and picked games for you. He didn't win a single game,
- 0:31Speaker 1: he went oh to three. But because we're professional, we
- 0:33Speaker 1: did get your picks. The listeners are going to just
- 0:36Speaker 1: have to trust us on this one that you went
- 0:38Speaker 1: to and one great on your pick.
- 0:40Speaker 2: Sel.
- 0:40Speaker 4: I mean, listen, we can show them the email proof.
- 0:42Speaker 4: It's not like it's not there.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Yes, it is absolutely true. You had Washington wrong last week.
- 0:49Speaker 1: But you got that half a freaking point. Yes, but
- 0:51Speaker 1: you got the Texans covering easily and the Bears covering easily.
- 0:55Speaker 1: When I saw your Bears pick, I was like, why
- 0:57Speaker 1: didn't I take the Bears? I felt so strong about
- 0:59Speaker 1: that game there in London, and then it happened I
- 1:01Speaker 1: went too and one as well. I got the Lions
- 1:04Speaker 1: and the Steelers both covering comfortably and the Giants not
- 1:08Speaker 1: even coming very close. So two and one for me
- 1:11Speaker 1: gets me to eight and ten on the season. You're
- 1:13Speaker 1: nine and nine. My extra picks did poorly last week,
- 1:15Speaker 1: so I'm down to eleven and six and my extra
- 1:17Speaker 1: picks we do have a couple. Eleven and six is great,
- 1:19Speaker 1: still very good, but I went zero and three last week. Okay,
- 1:23Speaker 1: let's start well, I'll let you start every week. By
- 1:26Speaker 1: the way, if you're new to the show, both Cynthia
- 1:29Speaker 1: and I, two of the foremost prognosticators in the business,
- 1:33Speaker 1: picked three games against the spread.
- 1:35Speaker 4: Okay, for my first pick this week, I would like
- 1:40Speaker 4: to go with Listen, I'm i woof this one's gonna
- 1:47Speaker 4: be spicy, but I'm going with the Jets plus one
- 1:50Speaker 4: and a half. Okay, I think the Jets went out right,
- 1:52Speaker 4: So if you're gonna also give me another point and
- 1:55Speaker 4: a half, I will take it.
- 1:57Speaker 2: I have the Jets winning this game as well.
- 1:59Speaker 1: On our show debut, which, by the way, people could
- 2:01Speaker 1: they can dvyards on early Friday mornings on Sunday.
- 2:04Speaker 2: Morning early if you're on late night specific Saturday, Yeah,
- 2:06Speaker 2: it's very early. What do you like?
- 2:09Speaker 1: Does your model put a DeVante trade into the mix
- 2:13Speaker 1: and how much does that change anything. Does it put
- 2:16Speaker 1: Russell Wilson into the mix? Does that change anything there?
- 2:21Speaker 4: You know, the Russell Wilson thing just added more passes
- 2:23Speaker 4: with actually added more volatility because the Jets defense is
- 2:26Speaker 4: very good. And then if you look on the other side,
- 2:29Speaker 4: Davante Adams has been the reliable option for Aaron Rodgers
- 2:33Speaker 4: on quick passes basically for ever since they were together, right, So,
- 2:37Speaker 4: I don't know, it kind of bolstered the Jets odds
- 2:39Speaker 4: no matter what. And I think the line moved half
- 2:41Speaker 4: a point with Davante and I'm like, fine, I.
- 2:43Speaker 2: Don't care, but you moved at another a point or something.
- 2:47Speaker 4: Yeah, I went over and above, Yes, whatever the movement was.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Yes, you have them. When I like that, I agree
- 2:53Speaker 1: with you. But that's not going to be one of
- 2:54Speaker 1: my three picks I'm going to make. I'm going to
- 2:57Speaker 1: continue to make the mistake of picking the Patriots it
- 3:00Speaker 1: to cover the spread.
- 3:01Speaker 3: I have it too.
- 3:02Speaker 2: Five and a half is okay?
- 3:04Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, you got to have a code as someone
- 3:07Speaker 1: that's picking games, and one of my codes, one of
- 3:11Speaker 1: my ways I would I do this would be some
- 3:15Speaker 1: teams just aren't worthy of being heavy favorites and the
- 3:18Speaker 1: Jaguars are one of those teams like you can put
- 3:21Speaker 1: any NFL team out there against the Jaguars. I do
- 3:23Speaker 1: not think they should be a five and a half
- 3:25Speaker 1: point favorite in any scenario whatsoever, and this is that scenario.
- 3:30Speaker 1: It's a neutral field game, you could say JAG's home game,
- 3:32Speaker 1: but it's not gonna really matter. I'm sure the Patriots
- 3:35Speaker 1: fans will actually travel pretty well and it'll be even,
- 3:38Speaker 1: but it'll be mostly just people enjoying the game.
- 3:40Speaker 2: It'd be fun atmosphere. They're at Wimbley.
- 3:42Speaker 1: So giving the Jaguars five and a half points after
- 3:46Speaker 1: a week where I think Olie Connelly on our recap
- 3:50Speaker 1: show said it well, watching the sidelines, He's never seen
- 3:53Speaker 1: a more disconnected team emotionally in his life, and now
- 3:56Speaker 1: they got to go spend a whole week together in London.
- 3:58Speaker 1: Everyone's miserable. People think the head coach is gonna get
- 4:00Speaker 1: fired just sight unseen. I kind of almost like the
- 4:03Speaker 1: Patriots straight up. I'm not ready to go there because
- 4:06Speaker 1: the last thing I did before I came in to
- 4:08Speaker 1: the studio today was watch Patriots Texans and it was
- 4:12Speaker 1: a reminder this is a bottom five defense. Trevor Lawrence
- 4:14Speaker 1: has actually played pretty well the last couple of weeks.
- 4:18Speaker 1: They're just more talented than the Patriots when their offense
- 4:21Speaker 1: is on the field against a pretty poor Patriots defense.
- 4:23Speaker 1: There they're not beginning coach very well, so that maybe
- 4:26Speaker 1: the Jaguars win this game. But five and a half points.
- 4:28Speaker 1: With Drake may making some plays last week that was
- 4:30Speaker 1: he is very volatile, so it could go really well
- 4:33Speaker 1: and he probably could have some negative plays. But this
- 4:36Speaker 1: this Jag secondary hasn't made any plays all year.
- 4:39Speaker 4: I mean, Andre Cisco had like the one good play
- 4:41Speaker 4: and then there was allegations that he said their team quit.
- 4:44Speaker 3: So yes, I don't know what's true or not.
- 4:46Speaker 4: I just know that it looks like a mess and
- 4:48Speaker 4: that weird hockey line and subbing in thing that the
- 4:51Speaker 4: Jags are doing up.
- 4:52Speaker 3: Front watch their defensive front.
- 4:53Speaker 4: Yes, they like do hockey line substitutions like you know,
- 4:56Speaker 4: like up first first line, second light like it's it's wild.
- 4:59Speaker 4: I've never seen you ually see one or two players
- 5:01Speaker 4: kind of on certain downs coming out and not like
- 5:03Speaker 4: they're they're like summing out five layers.
- 5:05Speaker 1: Well, that's the one part of the game that does
- 5:07Speaker 1: worry me a little. Bit Trayvon Walker has had some
- 5:09Speaker 1: good games. Josh heinz Allen is still there. Ark armsit's there.
- 5:12Speaker 1: So that matchup against the Patriots offensive line. But that's
- 5:15Speaker 1: one of the reasons why. Just as a little bonus
- 5:17Speaker 1: on our show game debut for my write this down
- 5:20Speaker 1: this week, I was like, Drake May over rushing yard
- 5:23Speaker 1: in total, so that was like twenty nine and a half.
- 5:24Speaker 1: That's not one of my picks here. I guess it's
- 5:26Speaker 1: an extra pick. I'm throwing that in the xtra pick
- 5:28Speaker 1: in the box because he's gonna when I think they're
- 5:31Speaker 1: telling Drake May. Essentially, if you don't see anything and
- 5:33Speaker 1: the rush comes quickly, like run dude, and he did it. Well,
- 5:37Speaker 1: run dude. He is athletic enough to do it. So
- 5:39Speaker 1: is that going to be one of your three pills?
- 5:41Speaker 2: Okay? Huh Okay?
- 5:42Speaker 4: My next one is Washington by seven and a half
- 5:45Speaker 4: points against Carolina.
- 5:46Speaker 2: Okay, that that makes a lot of sense to me.
- 5:48Speaker 2: Explain why?
- 5:49Speaker 3: Well what I mean?
- 5:51Speaker 4: Number one, Listen, there's so many good things to like
- 5:55Speaker 4: about Jayden Daniels, but the one thing I want to
- 5:57Speaker 4: talk about on the other side of the game is
- 6:00Speaker 4: the fact that no Jonathan Allen now, and now that's
- 6:03Speaker 4: going to be difficult to overcome. But I actually have
- 6:05Speaker 4: seen their defense defending passes a little bit better in
- 6:08Speaker 4: recent weeks. I'm not gonna call them a good pass defense.
- 6:11Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say that they're not going to give
- 6:12Speaker 4: up a deep play. I'm not gonna say that if
- 6:14Speaker 4: Deontay Johnson plays, he's not gonna get the hands, none
- 6:16Speaker 4: of that.
- 6:17Speaker 3: What I am going to say.
- 6:18Speaker 4: Is that their ability to contain these chunk plays on
- 6:22Speaker 4: every single down is limited more than Jayden Daniel's ability
- 6:26Speaker 4: to create such things on the other side. So I
- 6:28Speaker 4: think seven and a half, I have them an eleven
- 6:31Speaker 4: point win. And you know, my pretty conservative. So if
- 6:34Speaker 4: my model seeing eleven points seven and a half is
- 6:37Speaker 4: like you know, the big gapes, yeah, I'm way more
- 6:41Speaker 4: conservative than most models.
- 6:43Speaker 2: I like that.
- 6:43Speaker 1: I agree with that one too, if I had to
- 6:45Speaker 1: pick that one. Andy Dalton's playing just well enough that
- 6:48Speaker 1: you could see him like scoring some late touchdowns and
- 6:51Speaker 1: make you sweat it. But that defense is just just terrible.
- 6:55Speaker 1: Jadavin Clowney is still out of practice. Deontay Johnson out
- 6:57Speaker 1: of practice the first couple of days of the week,
- 7:00Speaker 1: of his teammates said that he will play.
- 7:01Speaker 2: Xavier Laget said, well.
- 7:03Speaker 4: If Xavier Laget says it, it must be true.
- 7:06Speaker 1: Xavier Legett also says he has if he scores two
- 7:09Speaker 1: touchdowns in this game, he has like a second part
- 7:12Speaker 1: of his horse galloping celebration.
- 7:14Speaker 2: I don't know if you've been.
- 7:15Speaker 4: Tracking, but there's a second part.
- 7:17Speaker 1: He has, the second part that he's ready to unveil,
- 7:19Speaker 1: but he has to score two touchdowns.
- 7:21Speaker 3: I'm so glad.
- 7:22Speaker 2: Yeah, what you are saying is unlikely.
- 7:24Speaker 1: Washington, that's your second pick minus seven and.
- 7:27Speaker 2: And a half.
- 7:28Speaker 3: Yep, don't forget that hook.
- 7:29Speaker 1: I'm so I'm like on the fence of what my
- 7:32Speaker 1: next couple of picks are going to be. Let's go
- 7:34Speaker 1: with the one I feel better about. Okay, Seattle plus
- 7:36Speaker 1: three yep, this is more of a hunch. Byron Murphy
- 7:40Speaker 1: returns this week. I think he's really important for that defense. Yes,
- 7:44Speaker 1: they've been getting pushed around in the middle. If he's there,
- 7:47Speaker 1: he can make everyone around him better. I like the
- 7:50Speaker 1: extra rest factor. The Seahawks play on Thursday night. Falcons
- 7:56Speaker 1: off of a normal week like that. The Falcons are
- 7:59Speaker 1: also the the they can't keep getting away with this team,
- 8:03Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like every week it's just like, okay, Falcons,
- 8:07Speaker 1: like they've won three in a row, the Seahawks have
- 8:10Speaker 1: lost three in a row. And when sometimes that happens
- 8:13Speaker 1: and I see two teams that I believe are pretty
- 8:16Speaker 1: close overall and talent and overall ability, I think, like this,
- 8:20Speaker 1: those streaks are gonna end. That's how it works out. Now,
- 8:22Speaker 1: that's not like a statistical way to really look at it,
- 8:25Speaker 1: but I do think Mike McDonald, their defensive coach, with
- 8:28Speaker 1: a few extra days to work on it, looks at
- 8:31Speaker 1: this Falcons offense, which is limited in the passing game,
- 8:35Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins every week he can't move. It's the play
- 8:39Speaker 1: actions not working. You're probably getting Tarrek wollenback for this
- 8:42Speaker 1: game too, for Seattle. So I like, okay, freaky, he
- 8:47Speaker 1: switched it. And I know the Falcons like rushing attack
- 8:50Speaker 1: has been getting a little better, so that worries me somewhat,
- 8:53Speaker 1: but I think Seattle can throw on them.
- 8:54Speaker 2: I'm going to Seattle plus three, okay.
- 8:57Speaker 3: I mean I like all that.
- 8:58Speaker 4: One thing I really like in this game is a
- 9:00Speaker 4: dk Metcalf touchdown, who in large part because the go
- 9:04Speaker 4: route has been where he's been so great, and the
- 9:07Speaker 4: opportunity here I did see. By the way, it is
- 9:10Speaker 4: worth noting that Justin Simmons was on the injury report
- 9:12Speaker 4: for the Falcons. Should that be something that happens, then
- 9:16Speaker 4: we're gonna want to say, like, maybe look at the
- 9:18Speaker 4: numbers for Tyler Lockett or Jack Okay, Jigbud, make them
- 9:21Speaker 4: a little higher. But ultimately I think the go route
- 9:24Speaker 4: DK metcalf back on track with those games that are
- 9:26Speaker 4: like three, you know, one hundred plus. He had three
- 9:28Speaker 4: of those and touch out whatever, So I like a touchdown.
- 9:31Speaker 1: I also like that he has been the main character
- 9:34Speaker 1: this week in Seattle, just in the media of everyone
- 9:37Speaker 1: talking about him coming off of a bad game and
- 9:39Speaker 1: why it didn't work out, and it's like he's not
- 9:41Speaker 1: being the squeaky wheel necessarily, but it's that same sort
- 9:44Speaker 1: of idea of they want to just.
- 9:45Speaker 2: Get him back on track after being the main character.
- 9:48Speaker 1: All right, give me your last pick, Cynthia Freelan, I
- 9:51Speaker 1: know this on fire got back to five hundred.
- 9:53Speaker 2: Here, let's go.
- 9:54Speaker 4: This one is going to be someone I know you
- 9:57Speaker 4: disagree with, so cause I think we need some dissension. Okay,
- 10:00Speaker 4: read too much and now I'm going to pick Houston
- 10:02Speaker 4: and I'm going to take a field goal. Thank you
- 10:05Speaker 4: very much at lambeau Field. I think that this is
- 10:08Speaker 4: an opportunity.
- 10:09Speaker 3: Number one.
- 10:10Speaker 4: A lot of Green Bay's wide receiving corps has ended
- 10:13Speaker 4: up on the injury report that is number one, including
- 10:15Speaker 4: Jayden Reid number two. Jordan Love splits when under pressure
- 10:19Speaker 4: versus not when under pressure. Our massive biggest erosion in
- 10:23Speaker 4: passer reading this year, like the most touchdowns passes, but
- 10:26Speaker 4: also like most interceptions. It is it is high risk
- 10:28Speaker 4: it biscuit whatever that remember.
- 10:30Speaker 1: That was very no risk it no biscuit. Bruce Arians
- 10:33Speaker 1: believe it was.
- 10:34Speaker 2: No.
- 10:34Speaker 1: It was not the name of his book. The name
- 10:36Speaker 1: of his book was The Quarterback Whisper. And I read it,
- 10:38Speaker 1: but a lot of it, a lot of no risk
- 10:40Speaker 1: and no biscuit.
- 10:41Speaker 4: Do you want to know a book I've read, Total
- 10:43Speaker 4: Access by Rich Eyes.
- 10:45Speaker 2: That's the only one that's or just you just wanted
- 10:47Speaker 2: to brag.
- 10:48Speaker 4: No. I somebody like told me that in order to
- 10:51Speaker 4: work with Rich I needed They were messing with me
- 10:53Speaker 4: and they were like, in order to work with Rich
- 10:55Speaker 4: you need to read his book.
- 10:56Speaker 1: You know, that's really funny. I've read that book as well,
- 10:59Speaker 1: and I was not even told that. I you know,
- 11:01Speaker 1: I'm just I'm a completist. That was even before I
- 11:04Speaker 1: worked at NFL Network. I believe it's called a Journey
- 11:08Speaker 1: into the NFL's.
- 11:09Speaker 2: Something like that.
- 11:09Speaker 4: Yeah, and he had hair. Anyways, it was crazy. But
- 11:13Speaker 4: I'm back to Houston. Yeah, I think this number one
- 11:16Speaker 4: defense in terms of bringing the heat. They're the best
- 11:19Speaker 4: rush defense in the league, and they back it up
- 11:22Speaker 4: with a passer rating allowed being the lowest when they
- 11:25Speaker 4: get pressure on quarterbacks. So in my estimation here, especially
- 11:29Speaker 4: with Joe Mixon back in the fold, when they have
- 11:31Speaker 4: that extra fold in the run game, even without Nico Collins,
- 11:34Speaker 4: I would like it better if Nico were playing, but
- 11:36Speaker 4: we don't have that option. This is an opportunity for
- 11:39Speaker 4: Houston to kind of take that step forward.
- 11:41Speaker 1: You're the third smart person I've heard make this pick
- 11:44Speaker 1: in the last hour or two.
- 11:46Speaker 4: Well, I mean I feel like it you might have been.
- 11:48Speaker 4: It might have been we were in the meeting together.
- 11:50Speaker 2: Yeah, not even counting that meeting.
- 11:52Speaker 1: I'm like, I was listening to a podcast to you,
- 11:55Speaker 1: like Green Bay minus three was going to be one
- 11:58Speaker 1: of my picks.
- 11:58Speaker 2: We were going to go head to head, but go ahead.
- 12:01Speaker 1: I already was leaning towards jumping off of it, partly
- 12:04Speaker 1: because I just enjoy watching CJ.
- 12:07Speaker 2: Stroud so much.
- 12:08Speaker 1: I think he's the best quarterback in the league in
- 12:10Speaker 1: the pocket right now, and it's so hard to pick
- 12:13Speaker 1: against him that, even though I do believe Green Bay
- 12:16Speaker 1: will win and cover the three, to make it one
- 12:20Speaker 1: of my top three picks, feels a little rich.
- 12:23Speaker 2: Now.
- 12:23Speaker 1: They are missing a lot of defensive starters. Houston potentially,
- 12:27Speaker 1: Jimmy Ward not expected to play, Kamari Lassiter I think
- 12:30Speaker 1: is not expected to play. A couple of the linebackers
- 12:33Speaker 1: are maybe's.
- 12:34Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 12:34Speaker 1: This may be factor makes it. It is tricky, but it
- 12:37Speaker 1: is tricky. We don't know for sure. So you're gonna
- 12:40Speaker 1: move me off of that pick. I am going to
- 12:43Speaker 1: put it in my extra picks. Yeah, put in the box.
- 12:45Speaker 1: It's there, great, don't put it in the box. The
- 12:47Speaker 1: box is good.
- 12:48Speaker 2: Okay.
- 12:48Speaker 1: So, going back to what I was saying about, the
- 12:50Speaker 1: Jaguars don't deserve to be five and a half point
- 12:52Speaker 1: favorites over anyone. I don't think the Rams deserve to
- 12:55Speaker 1: be touchdown over anyone. I know the Raiders are bad,
- 12:59Speaker 1: but the Raiders, like every other week, have this performance
- 13:03Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, like we really we really stunk
- 13:06Speaker 1: last week. And Antonio Pierce laid into is that we're
- 13:09Speaker 1: gonna play hard and we're gonna be better on defense
- 13:10Speaker 1: than you think. And I don't necessarily think they're gonna
- 13:13Speaker 1: win this game. I would certainly pick the Rams, who
- 13:15Speaker 1: are maybe getting Cooper Cup back, it's looking positive for
- 13:18Speaker 1: that they're coming off a bye, but they're a one
- 13:21Speaker 1: win team getting a touchdown at home, and there's no
- 13:25Speaker 1: home field advantage in particular when you're playing the Raiders
- 13:27Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Not that that's like informing my decision
- 13:30Speaker 1: too much, it's well.
- 13:31Speaker 3: Not for the Raiders, for the Raiders's kind of like that's.
- 13:33Speaker 1: What I that's what I mean like, But I just
- 13:37Speaker 1: I don't think their defense is going to be this
- 13:40Speaker 1: bad all season long. Sean McVay and the Rams have
- 13:43Speaker 1: just dealing with so many different issues. They've They've changed
- 13:47Speaker 1: their secondary up, their linebackers are still very vulnerable. The
- 13:50Speaker 1: Raiders are one of the worst teams in the league,
- 13:52Speaker 1: but I just feel like a one win Rams team
- 13:54Speaker 1: does not deserve to be favored by a touchdown over anyone.
- 13:57Speaker 4: I mean I have them at a touchdowns, So I'm
- 14:00Speaker 4: kind of like.
- 14:01Speaker 2: Okay, are on the fence or whatever? All right? That
- 14:03Speaker 2: that is my third pick. I'm gonna take the Raider.
- 14:05Speaker 1: I'm gonna be bold because i feel like when I've
- 14:07Speaker 1: not been bold in this segment, what's happened is I've
- 14:12Speaker 1: taken all my bold picks and I've put them over
- 14:14Speaker 1: in the in the box, which are my extra picks,
- 14:17Speaker 1: and those extra picks have been better the box.
- 14:19Speaker 3: So be spicy on the show, be boring in the box.
- 14:22Speaker 2: Okay.
- 14:23Speaker 1: So to review our picks, your picks are Washington minus
- 14:26Speaker 1: seven and a half.
- 14:27Speaker 2: Yep. You have the Jets winning over the Steelers. Yep.
- 14:30Speaker 3: But I get one and a half points in case.
- 14:32Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been it's been moving around there. You get
- 14:34Speaker 1: one and a half. Houston is a three point underdog
- 14:38Speaker 1: in Green Bay. So those are Cynthia's picks. I'm taking
- 14:42Speaker 1: the Pats getting five and a half in London, taking
- 14:45Speaker 1: the Seahawks getting three in Atlanta, and taking the Vegas
- 14:49Speaker 1: Raiders getting a touchdown in Los Angeles. So I'm taking
- 14:54Speaker 1: three underdogs this week, and then just because I like
- 14:56Speaker 1: to have a little fun, I like it, I give
- 14:58Speaker 1: people some extra picks. We have it Ravens minus four.
- 15:02Speaker 1: This is just like I feel like taking the Ravens
- 15:04Speaker 1: every week at this point, unless they just like proved
- 15:07Speaker 1: me wrong. This Buccaneers defense has a lot of issues.
- 15:10Speaker 1: I know you disagree with this one though you had
- 15:12Speaker 1: the Ravens only by one in.
- 15:14Speaker 4: This It depends on what happens with like if Mike
- 15:17Speaker 4: Evans isn't playing, things shift.
- 15:19Speaker 2: So I don't know this good.
- 15:21Speaker 4: This one I don't feel great about, like as I
- 15:23Speaker 4: don't know when you get on the injury report like
- 15:25Speaker 4: after Wednesday, any you went on the Andrew report on Thursday.
- 15:28Speaker 3: Like that doesn't feel good.
- 15:29Speaker 2: That's it so good. It's a tricky one.
- 15:31Speaker 1: This offense is just so good that I have a
- 15:35Speaker 1: hard time seeing Tampa Bay keeping up.
- 15:37Speaker 2: I have the Packers minus three.
- 15:39Speaker 1: I gave all the reasons already there, and then I'm
- 15:42Speaker 1: going Brown's plus five and a half. I had them
- 15:45Speaker 1: written down last week, and then I crossed them out
- 15:47Speaker 1: because I just I even said it on the podcast,
- 15:49Speaker 1: so it didn't count. I was like, I just can't
- 15:52Speaker 1: in good conscience pick a team yep, run by Deshaun Watson.
- 15:56Speaker 1: But even though I really liked them getting nine points
- 15:58Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, and you know what they did cover and
- 16:00Speaker 1: they get Nick Chubb back, So I look at it
- 16:02Speaker 1: like I'm not picking at Deshaun Watson team.
- 16:05Speaker 2: I'm picking a Nick Chubb team.
- 16:06Speaker 1: And this is a division matchup, which the Browns have
- 16:09Speaker 1: done very well in the Zach Taylor era. They've traditionally
- 16:13Speaker 1: beaten Zach Taylor's teams, especially in Cleveland. Not that that's
- 16:16Speaker 1: a huge deal, but I do think division matchups maybe
- 16:19Speaker 1: make mismatches closer. And I'm just not really all in
- 16:24Speaker 1: on like this Bengals defense has solved everything.
- 16:26Speaker 2: So give me five and a half points, I'll take
- 16:27Speaker 2: the Browns.
- 16:28Speaker 4: Oh. I don't know if the Bengals defense has solved anything,
- 16:30Speaker 4: but my I just I, in good conscience, I cannot
- 16:34Speaker 4: take until the Browns get over a twenty percent third
- 16:37Speaker 4: down conversion rate, which they haven't done all season long.
- 16:39Speaker 4: It is nineteen percent. It's up from eighteen percent last week. Great,
- 16:43Speaker 4: but until they consistently get can convert twenty I'm asking
- 16:47Speaker 4: for nothing. Twenty percent of your third downs. Huh huh,
- 16:50Speaker 4: I will give you a touchdown to the other team.
- 16:52Speaker 4: I just think that is that is not good. I
- 16:56Speaker 4: have not that is a decidedly un good. No, that's
- 16:58Speaker 4: terrible Nick Chubb. I guess when it comes twenty five
- 17:01Speaker 4: saved the day.
- 17:02Speaker 1: I've been rooting Nick Chubb against this Browns team because
- 17:05Speaker 1: of the Shawn Watson for years. I feel bad for
- 17:07Speaker 1: their fans, and so this is I think a week
- 17:10Speaker 1: where we can celebrate something good happening for the Browns,
- 17:13Speaker 1: and that's going to be covering five and a half points.
- 17:15Speaker 4: Be clear, the way that you navigate this for fantasy is, yes,
- 17:18Speaker 4: you're starting Nick Chubb number one, and yes you're starting
- 17:21Speaker 4: David and Joku that's number two, okay. And if you're
- 17:24Speaker 4: in playing a daily format and you're looking for like
- 17:26Speaker 4: a guy who could potentially have upside but has not
- 17:29Speaker 4: done anything so far this year, it'd be Jerry Judy.
- 17:31Speaker 4: So again, I don't I'm not saying for your for
- 17:34Speaker 4: your season long, it's only Nick Chubb, that is it,
- 17:36Speaker 4: But or maybe David in joke if you're like really
- 17:39Speaker 4: bad with a tight end. But if you're playing DFS
- 17:41Speaker 4: and you want some good contrarian contrarian value, Jerry Judy.
- 17:45Speaker 2: I love this.
- 17:45Speaker 1: Come for the picks, Come for the picks, Gay Navigation
- 17:49Speaker 1: for the DFS Fantasy.
- 17:51Speaker 4: What do you love DFS and Fantasy Man.
- 17:52Speaker 1: Well, we are not allowed to play DFS as employees,
- 17:55Speaker 1: but we can give advice.
- 17:56Speaker 3: Cynthia again, I'm I'm not playing.
- 17:59Speaker 4: I'm just saying what I would do if I were
- 18:02Speaker 4: allowed to play.
- 18:02Speaker 2: I love it.
- 18:04Speaker 1: If you want more of Cynthia's numbers lot has so
- 18:08Speaker 1: many numbers, like a billion. She has a model that
- 18:12Speaker 1: does everything possible. She has a YouTube.
- 18:17Speaker 2: I don't know. You don't call it a YouTube page,
- 18:20Speaker 2: just a YouTube.
- 18:21Speaker 1: Your YouTube page is called Numbers Game with Cynthia Friland
- 18:24Speaker 1: and the game show like long preview every week, picking
- 18:28Speaker 1: the primetime game separately to the Thursday night.
- 18:30Speaker 2: It is good stuff. It is possible.
- 18:32Speaker 4: Even this week's game, which was a very very like
- 18:35Speaker 4: I had to do a little extra digging to make
- 18:37Speaker 4: it exciting.
- 18:37Speaker 1: Yes, she's working really hard on that. So people should
- 18:40Speaker 1: check out Numbers Game with Cynthia Freeland. Check us out
- 18:42Speaker 1: on game debut. We will be back on NFL Daily
- 18:46Speaker 1: on Sunday Night with Nick Shook and Patrick claybah I
- 18:50Speaker 1: went fourteen to o in my straight up picks last week.
- 18:52Speaker 2: Fourteen to know.
- 18:53Speaker 1: So when the picks are starting to be right, like
- 18:56Speaker 1: Cynthia and I, I can feel a hot streak coming.
- 18:58Speaker 2: You know, football is back. We'll see us sudden